NOT What You Want to Hear SOLO at Sea (I Lied about this, I'm Sorry!)
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- I tried something that really didn't go as planned. I was so confident in it too.
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Not an expert, just what I heard about ikejime , and it sounds very logical. Nerve tissue and muscles contain ATP, which is used as a neurotransmitter agent. When ATP is "used" in the muscle it breaks down to several compounds including lactic acid and ammonia. You don't have to be a scientist to see how those two biproducts left in the muscle can affect tissue quality. If you just bump and bleed the fish some residual nerve activity may still be happening while the fish slowly bleeds to death while still breaking down ATP. If you sever the main "conductor" you're essentially stopping the ATP decay in its tracks, thus preventing ammonia and lactic acid from contaminating the flesh. Does this make sense?
Oh, and as always, great content man, really enjoy your channel. Keep on keepin on brother!
This would effect raw long term storage in a freezer as well. I have some thresher steaks in my freezer that have been there a couple years. After 18 months they became pretty inedible because the muscle tissue continues degrading even when frozen (a property of cold blooded proteins?!) and has a strong urine (ammonia) smell. I've been using the steaks as cut bait and in crab nets. The urine scent seems to attract the crabs.
ATP is not a neurotransmitter. It is a molecule that provides energy to cellular processes.
Matts I told you , you have the most educated experienced followers ,🤝🏼 thank you Igor
Check your 9th grade bio bud.
Just want to make a few things clear re. ATP, neurotransmission, and rigor mortis. ATP can act as a neurotransmitter in the central as well as peripheral nervous system. It plays a role in sensory neurotransmission by binding to receptors in various compartments. ATP has a number of receptors which can be targeted pharmacologically with drugs to treat blood clotting; numerous clinical trials are underway in cyctic fibrosis, inflammation, pain, and arthritis. By inserting a wire into the intrathecal space (that contains the spinal cord) you are mechanically activating descending motor neurons in the cord that synapse on muscle fibers in the body of the fish that utilize excitatory neurotransmitters such as ACh and glutamate. Hence the twitching. Back to ATP - after binding to it's receptor during neurotransmission ATP is NOT broken down into lactic acid and/or ammonia - it is converted to ADP then AMP, then adnosine or inosine. Re. rigor mortis, muscles need ATP to function properly and when breathing stops organisms cannot recycle ADP to ATP and muscles go into rigor. During rigor glycogen in the muscles breaks down and leads to accumulation of lactate and a fall in pH (more acidic). This is unrelated to ATP, poking a wire into the spinal cord, or the like. Credentials: PhD in Neuroscience, MS in physiology, endocrinology, neurobiology; can't catch fish for shit!
Dude - I just cleaned, and cooked my first fish today. I fish lakes so it was just a couple pound bass. I may have also cried for a few minutes after I bonked and killed it lol. BUT I DID IT. Your videos got me fishing last year so thank you!
Don't be a p**** what is it politically correct to feel sorrow for everything you eat
gotta be careful with lake fish, stagnant water = bacteria and disease
It's alright man. You just have to respect the animal and dispatch it as humanely as possible. Always make sure you aren't being wasteful.
@@PearlDrummerFTW I know it was just a fish, but it was a big deal for me to catch and take something’s life like that. I ate it, but will most likely never fillet another lake fish again.
@@billiemack64 didn’t taste too good?
One time I spent two hours troubleshooting my engine before I realized the kill switch was off. Too embarrassing to tell the tale anywhere else but under the veil of the RUclips comment section.
I should pin this
@@FishermansLife It would be healing, lol. Here is another; I was night fishing for steelhead, pulling plugs I would troll a section, then zip back up to the top of the hole to do the same section of river again. After a few times of doing this, I got to the top of the hole, looked down, and my entire set up was gone, plug and every inch of line. I had left my gear in the water and when I got on plane stripped everything off. Luckily I kept the rod and reel.
p.s. I wont give the details of when I planed off with the kicker motor down.
One time?? I can't even tell you how many times I've done that haha.
Always bring a map🤗🤟✌️
@@FishermansLife might be revealing Info on your refrigerator but maybe not. Just FYI.
The process you did for Ikejime was great. It doesn't stop the fish from stiffening up after it gets cold. But, it does soften up the tissue right after you cord it, stopping the lactic acid from spreading and delaying rigormortis which helps the shelf life in a fridge for much longer. Producing more umami flavors from the fish.
“I haven’t eaten anything, might as well eat this heart.” Absolute legend! Love the videos man
In all reality man you are so damn talented at filming and fishing simultaneously! Being captain, fishing, rigging, filming(multiple angles) , and teaching us. All while doing something that’s so fun like that. You are top notch my guy👍🏻 glad I found your content a few years back.
I felt like I haven’t watched a fisherman’s life vid in a while so I searched up the channel to see if I missed a video and was blessed with this
We need those catch n cook videos back
Excellent content as always! I believe the main part or rather the structure below the actual spinal cord is the centrum or vertebral body of the vertebrae…it is a support structure that makes up the bulk of each vertebrae. So just above that (where you stick the wire in) is indeed the actual spinal cord which is basically destroyed by the wire, ceasing all nerve function. I think rigor mortis sets in no matter what you do because it depends on the levels of ATP and the calcium ions in the muscles of the fish….as they deplete through time, the muscle become locked in a contracted position via particular biochemical pathways (to extensive to post here lol). However, I believe the ikejime technique delays the onset of rigor mortis, so perhaps the freshness of the meat seems to last longer before actual decomposition begins.
haha that was super cool to hear my name in your video! :) love that feeling when you know your bait is spinning perfect, they arent all created equal. Great video, interesting results at the end, the fish was wiggling lots so you would of thought you did it right 🤷♂️ Congrats on the quick solo limit, awesome feeling! 💪💪
looking forward to your next one too since i know you went out the day after!!
haven't watched you in a bit. now it's time to binge watch anything I missed
Literally same
Same lol
lucky bastard! enjoy!
Same with me RUclips hasn’t been recommending anything from fisherman’s life
Dislike aimed at YT, not you brother! Missed some algorithm somehow Matt!
Your voice and vibe are so chill. Keep up the good work.
When you start whistling like that, you know you feel accomplished. Awesome video.
Awesome fishing, Matts! Can't believe you did it solo! You made it look easy. 🙌
Doctor here. You're inserting the wire into the spinal canal where the spinal cord runs through. When you pointed and said "the spinal cord is right there" at 8:51 is actually the fish equivalent of the vertebral body. The spinal cord is just north/dorsal to your finger tip (where the wire went through). When you run the wire into the canal where the spinal cord rests, you're basically agitating all the nerve fibers which causes the muscles to contract randomly. Rigor mortis is also a cellular event when all the calcium gets released inside the muscles which causes the muscle fibers to contract. This gives the fish a stiff appearance and feeling. So yeah, these are two separate things. Still really cool to see lol. Big fan of you Matt! Keep up the awesome vids!!
So youre saying he did it wrong?
@@MaYbYl8eR No. I'm just describing what he was doing to the fish and giving a rough idea of rigor mortis
@@pmhuynh88 So what if any effect do you think doing ikejime has? Perhaps he should just let the wire rest inside until he prepares the fish?
@@chir0pter It's a great question and I cannot speak from experience. But because it's a technique that has probably existed for a long time, it probably means ikejime has had a favorable impact of the quality/taste of the fish meat. If I had to make an educated guess... severing the fish head from the spinal cord still leaves the autonomic nervous system intact from the spinal cord. This means signals from the spinal cord can still cause the muscles to contract and use up the remaining energy/ATP in the muscles. When the energy sources are depleted, this can then cause the muscles to breakdown, resulting in lower quality meat. So if you destroy the spinal cord early on, then the muscles won't break down as quickly to give you better tasting fish. Just my thoughts... lol I hope I'm not too far off from the real reasons.
Always nice to see you posting
I'm not a fisherman but I just love watching this channel and learning all kinds of great information about fishing 🎣 😊👍🏾
Damn, you need to get out there and try! Although, when you open up that can of worms (pun intended), you're in for a lifetime of self torture😊. Worth every bit of it!
@@hornsforever1 I hear ya😂, my ex wife bought me a very nice fishing pole (expensive I might add) and I have yet to even use it 🙄
Go drop a line SUCKA FISH!!!! you’ll be HOOKED!!!!!!! 🎣
@@svtkilr between you and my good buddy ribbing me about fishing I think I'm gonna break out the pole and go, its gonna be embarrassing I already know it 😅
@@relentless6156 hahahahaha man get out there and get that beginner’s luck! I’ve seen it happen many many times especially when I took out girls I used to date that never fished before they would always catch a nice fish lol what area do you live? I might be able to suggest some nice places to fish! Tight Lines 🎣
Love seeing you just doing ya thing living your life. Great video man I remember when I first saw you doing a catch clean cook at like 100k congrats on all the success and hope you are doing well after your surgery
i recall telling you about running a line up the cord back a year or so ago. It immediately stops all the nerves that rot a fish from inside . works better with stiffer cord from the tail. same technique half cut. awsome Bro !
Great to see Matt again!
That was pretty cool to see as you were inserting the wire into the fish you could see the body twitching lower and lower (from the shimmer on the scales) as the wire went deeper and deeper. Very cool and thanks for showing this to us! I can't wait to try out my Fisherman's Life Cable Baiters!! :) -Arie
This comment read as a future serial killer lmao
@@Division4 lol fr
@@Division4 oh snap, you're right! LOL!
Always enjoy watching your videos.
As always, nice video and thanks for keeping it fresh.
I think technically what you're doing is called shinkei jime. Ike jime also involves spiking the brain so that cortisol and lactic acid don't build up in the muscles from stress.
I would spike the brain, bleed it out then shinkei jime.
I personally found those Chinese thin steel skewers works very well as an Shinkeijime “wire” with smaller fish such as flounder and such. I have also modded a water dental flosser with an extra glue needle and syringe for tsumoto-shiki shinkeijime but it needs to be refined to a point that it can with stand a strong enough water pressure for larger fish such as halibut or salmon.
I always love your videos, and I really appreciate how real and authentic you keep it.
Ikejime (ee kay jee may) is used to kill the fish as well as improve the quality of the meat. I like to go through the tail, shove the wire up as far as it goes, and go back and forth a bunch of times. At least until the muscle spasms stop. Between the ikejime and bleeding the fish afterwards, the meat will taste much better. You should do another ikejime test, but this time eat sashimi cuts from each fish so you don’t have anything altering the flavor. You will find the fish that had ikejime will taste much better.
As far as rigor mortis goes, it tends to start a few hours after death and goes on for 10-13 hours. The only way to avoid rigor mortis is to subject the body to electrical stimulation for long enough to work (I can’t remember what the compound is called) out of the body.
Nice video. Awesome to mention Chris on there. Enjoyed this video.
This dude just ate the heart, no problem. 😂😂😂😂
Nice going. Glad to see you back on your game.
I love the rubber mat in the back, I use the same thing but different color. That trip hazard from the mat on the starboard side tho...
I hate having loose rope on the deck because of trip hazard. That sketches me out just seeing it, add to it alone in the ocean.
Great video. Always learning. Poor Jimmy.
You need a stiffer wire. Not so flexible. Also when you do ikejime, you should cut and expose the spine on the tail side as well. Awesome vids, love this life!! Yeeeee!
Nail on the head!
"haven't eaten anything, might as well eat a heart" savage af
Cool video bro. I’m from New Zealand, love my fishing and eat most my fish as sashimi. I also break the spinal cord with the same method. Just wanted to say you can use a bit strong trace to do it as well (80 lb+). Using trace just means I don’t have to add wire in my fishing kit 👍👍
The goat back at it🐐
Always awesome watching your videos I keep hoping you'll head up this way to southern Oregon take you some serious steelhead!!! Love the content and effort in each one of your videos!!
Thanks for information 🤗 might try that whenever I go salmon fishin/dip netting in Alaska when the season hits
Great video, love the content.
Never heard of this but utube is full of videos on it.of course I know this after watching your video first.thanks for teaching me something today….
We need a lingcod catch n cook from shore ft. Butter video again
That is for sure
We have done this to yellowfin tuna where I’m at…it stops the nervous system and stops the lactic acid from permiating the flesh…it works but you’re also opening a channel through the fish for bacteria also…thus limiting quality shelf life if kept whole…
Down here in Long Beach, CA we have a boat towing service that you can buy insurance for. It costs from about $60 to a few hundred dollars annually depending on the level of coverage you choose. West Marine sells it. I don't know if they have franchises up there though. I often see their boats "Tow Boat USA" when I go out on my yak.
We're in the same area 😅
Looks cold!!
I love cut scenes like 7:54 lol nice catches!
Ike-Jime (live killing/'closing' roughly translating) is the technique used to kill fish and bleed out the fish. The technique in the video is called Shinkei-Nuki (nerve pulling) which destroys the nerve going down the spine to prevent additional degradation of the meat. I've seen commercial boats use compressed air to blow the nerve out of the fish in one shot for porgy.
Shinkei-nuki will delay the stiffing process but will not stop it. Though delaying it will still result in fresher meat.
When u ate the heart. I thought they surely give you a tv show by now.
Wow nice catch Matts.
Jamming that wire down the spine of that fish just makes my body shiver.
Great meeting you out there Matt. Go Mustangs !
Amazing!
Yes, on the liver. Ankimo or monk fish liver I order all the time if it is on the menu board. King salmon liver is a bit milder but heck yeah. Sublime taste pairing with sea grapes then a shot of cold Nigiri unfiltered sake.
Nice catch 💪🎣
nice video, great job fighting the sharks, the Rays are crazy though ,they run like hell
Gotta say that wire thing freaked me out Matts.
Blessings
Its the cold that does that sometimes. It works best if you make a slurry and submerge the whole fish. Also helps to have a cooler where the fish lays flat.
i noticed this keeping drinks cold in a cooler as well - better an ice bath than just ice to get something cold. water is a much better thermal conductor than air.
Thank you for turning the clicker off while filming.. wish others would get the memo
You are good fisherman always nice trip fishing i love ur video much🤗congraluations u are the best fisherman matt💯👌👍👍👍👍👍✌🤙🎣🎣❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰
I'm sick. Watching your video made me feel better (:
6th day fighting COVID
icky jimmy looks fun to do regardless if it doesn't work. Would be a funny to freak people out making it move xD
00:50 It's a Yamaha... They even keep working submerged underwater 😃😃
them cablebaits are the truth... you never miss with those, every bite is a hook
The Ike Jime has worked on every rockfish I have ever performed on. To be honest I’ve never tried it on a salmon!
Also Ike Jime does make the fish/more firm and takes a day or two to relax. Nothing like the rigor mortis stiffness that you get when you just throw fish on the ice
Salmon are just prone to rigor for why ever reason but personally I just flay it 😂😏
Love the sound of the clicker!
Great video
Good catch
Keep it up
Rigor mortis is caused when the ATP consumin proteins in the muscle (Myosin) bind to the actin filaments, locking the muscle down. This happens when the tissue runs out of ATP, which will happen whether or not you pith the spine. Decreasing neural impulses using the spinal pith may delay this a bit by reducing contractions in the muscle, but probably not by a whole lot. When the heart stops beating and tissue is not oxygenated, ATP production starts to shut down.
Amazing I wish I could fish In The sea you lucky lucky man. Being restricted to the lakes is a pain to endure
Make a plan ✨️ and save for a fishing trip to salty waters. You can do it 💪.
Used to do that in the slaughter house on the cattle once shot with captive bolt had a 4ft long wound spring about 5mm in diameter shove it down to break the spinal cord helps as you have shown to get cleaner meat as the involuntary spasms push blood out too.
pretty efficient day on the ocean!
Afaik it doesn't prevent rigor mortis but it slows down the onset compared to normal bonk + bleed. Main benefit is as already posted; less waste chemicals accumulating in the flesh means better taste. Dunno if this is poor youtube etiquette but this dude has a really good demonstration of the process; CC for English: ruclips.net/video/NY6ywY7u4RA/видео.html. Also as far as I can tell the ideal wire is 16-20ish gauge stainless steel memory wire, it's readily available for jewelry making.
Been noticing lately a lot of fishing channels take their time bringing in the fish for view time x2 x3 what it should take to bring in. Keep bringing the quality man. You are the best fishing channel on YT.
you rock matts !!!....true anglers consume fresh-raw heart and 'organs'......fan from the marianas/yay area..
big fan my friend. I hope someday I can cast a line out, cook a meal, and give you a hug🙏🏼 Keep up the good work always
Would like to see more fishing and cook at the rocks 😅
lol can't believe you ate a raw fish heart as a snack in the middle of the ocean.
I will be eating them more regularly
@@FishermansLife Hope to see it, especially since it kinds of respects the fish in a way.
Just eating the heart fresh out the fish like that. What a savage 😂
Awesome episode Brotha!! Nice size limit Matts 👊🏼😎🤙🏼! Can you do a episode of you cooking them bad boys??
Crip Mac is smiling somewhere knowing you choose 55ft at first 😂
Have you ever gone Snipe hunting?? “ ikki Jimmie “ 😆🤣😂😊…..nice catch 👍🏼
The fishermen in Japan always do ikejime for prized fish as it lets them age the fish in the refridgerator for up to 2 weeks. Many dont eat fish like seabream raw and always let it age.
Awesome job bro
Rigor will probably happen either way as it’s a biomolecular process, it has to do with depletion of ATP at a cellular level in the muscles - crossbridges between muscles fibers actually require energy to disengage and when the body ‘relaxes’ it is actually because down the road the muscle cells actually start to breakdown directly and the crossbridges denature. The technique is more intended to reduce continued twitching which may cause more buildup of lactic acid and alter the flavor profile. At least in theory.
Just my two cents.
This is a nice fish!...
Boink boink boink
Dunno why but that but just had me cracking up. Matts imagine you have a viewer lile me that has never fished and can not stand the thought of eating fish yet I'm a subscriber. Should tell you just how damn good your vids are
Great fishing and perfect size for those salmon. Personally, it does not make much difference, perhaps when your making sushi to run wire down the spine. The meat is more relaxed.
VERY GOOD VIDEO 📹 👍 👌. Interesting content 👍. Love you're videos 📹 ❤️ 😀. Stay Safe 🙏 🙏
Well i dont mind hearing the clicker. Makes it a lot more thrilling. Next week i´ll be fishing at the Baltic Sea in Denmark. Hope to catch some big ones :D
I don’t know about the icky jimmy but I did see you eat a pumping salmon heart mad props to ya Fisherman’s Life
You should definitely have a backup motor for if you're out at sea man a nice 10/8hp can help you not get into trouble!!
This worries me. You should not be out there alone. You know the drill.
Still, I love your videos, you do an excellent job. If my accountant hadn't stood on his desk and screamed at me I would've bought a twin volvo engined Otis hulled schooner in 86. Almost. Now I have a great life on a farm with 4 great grown kids. But no saltwater.
@Ripple Nipples Sounds wonderful. But I've a farm to run. Had 4 kids, two daughter getting married this year. I like to watch this, and dream.
Another great video and I was hoping the trick would work for you. Next time maybe
I bought my son that beanie and he loves it!!!
Hey mate, knock your engine into neutral when you hook up. You no longer have your kill switch on and if you got tangled up or lost your footing while hanging over the edge pulling in a fish you could go over. A mile out and you'd watch your boat motor away..
Not sure about king salmon, but with Atlantic salmon and other fish with small scales, you can cook the fish with scales on. It makes the skin go crispy. It's kinda like crackling on roast pork. Cook the fish about 80% on the skin side the finish it off on the flesh side. For some fish, it makes it taste better, for others you wouldn't notice. But it's surely better than having to scale it. Worth a try anyway.
I fucking love this channel. I'm about to buy some merch just in case he has a golden ticket like Willy Wonka and I can come fish and eat with him.
That's a good idea. I should do something like that lol
As a Chef I’ve seen many Asian Chefs do that with the wire in the spine but I’ve never personally done it. I was thinking that on the fish that was icky-jimied I think it was the cold ice that stiffened him up. Just my thought.
Lol, you munching on the heart made me laugh.. I swear I thought you’d gag…
Ive heard at least with trout you want to keep the head on all the way thru the cooking process.. when you cut thru the spine it releases a chemical into the fish which will effect the taste of the fish...i have kept the head on now for the last 3-4 years and i do see some taste diffrence ..it does taste better although it still tastes like fish it looses im not sure if its the after taste or just takes some of the bite off it but it definatly takes some of the muddy flavor out of the fish if you fish in areas where the mud is an issue and it does make a diffrence
Thank you - more enjoyable
Rigor mortis is a chemical process in the muscles. There is no way to stop it from happening, it starts when there is no more oxygen supplied to the muscles. If I ever get to the west coast I will look you up. I'd love to go crabbing!
Exactly what I thought
Rigor Mortis sets in if there is no more ATP left (cellular respiration stopped bc of no oxygen). Therefore it doesnt make a difference if you do the ikejime or not. Its the absence of oxygen -> no more ATP that causes RM, not something related to the nerves. ATP is used to relax muscles so the lack of ATP causes the muscles to cramp (RM).
Writing from Japan. Ikejime 活け締め（いけじめ）basically means live death. You need to do it immediately after catching. No bonks.
It's always time well spent to watch your vids !