I would add some more in there especially when you recommend Fyrakks Tainted Heart. If you already have a high lvl S3 one it'll probably toe you over for a couple of weeks and you'll likely get more benefit from running Nelths Call to Dominance and a S3 Fyrakks.
I really cant imagine Nelth being any good in S4 M+. Its just that chi-chi by itself is already enough to top the group off repeatedly through those flurries of mastery procs. Youre buffing your throughput in a window at which youre already outhealing anything which doesnt one-shot. Nelth is more of a raid choice to me, to either supercharge your ramp during progression, or fish for some wild healing parses.
Very decent guidance, thanks a lot for sharing it :) I'll go for Seedling+Neltharions in Raid, King throughput! For M+, I'll use a Rashok along with Rageheart. I like the additional Hots it provides and that versa chunk really comes in handy with our dreaded 3x melee premade.
Yeah, i was thinking i was going to run fyrakks, but i got Ward in LFR on Tuesday and I've actually been loving it in m+. It's a great mini cocoon for squishy, defenseless classes like hunter and shaman. I feel like i'm not that squishy as a MW, plus I have expel harm to easily keep myself healthy. The shield seems like it might scale with int b.c i think they're bigger than what the tooltip says. the damage component is negligible tho, which kinda sucks
I’m surprised you aren’t more hype about Nelths trinket. That’s my number one recommendation. It just incentivizes the core monk gameplay loop of trusting your celestial in a fun interactive way, and it gives so much haste. I replaced my EB leaf with it and my life changed overnight 😅😂.
Well as he said he's mostly gearing for m+ , and nelth is pretty lackluster in dungeons. The 60 second chichi will top the group anyways, therefore the int buff will effectively just be a minor dps gain and worse than for example a simple statstick like Pips or a real damage option like Ice.
Hmmmmmm, you make good points. I feel like it has helped me with some of my most challenging encounters like 2nd NO, 3rd Hoi, and trogg boss in ulda. But considering what you are saying I’ll probably switch out of it when I don’t need all that throughout.
Neltharians call of dominance 535 and def was a good pick for both MW and WW so im happy with my first buy. i got an ashes in my vault and between the two my celestial literally triples my main stat +19k extra agil/int
It's not that it's trash, it's just the fire damage items don't add up to a really meaningful amount of damage (sadly) while also this just being a 1 hand and giving you less of a stat boost than grabbing a 2 hand
@@LBNinja7 Aaah yea I see, yea it gives like 8-11% more overall damge for me in total in a run, but the % of damage I guss is not woth the less stats boost I guss then :D ?
Hey mate, how much haste do you run now? The items give so high stats now, so I was interested if you still stack haste. Since I just got some random items and already have over 34% haste... I checked some people and it seems divided that some still run haste and some keep 30% haste and then run crit/vers. what approach do you prefer? cheers
This season it will be extremely easy to hit high numbers in secondary stats. If you are raiding, Sim the stats for the best answer. But I intend to get 30 haste and crit, then push as much vers as I can from there!
Like the chart, but I think you're missing Vakash. It does damage, it enables even more damage with the Eranog ring AND it can also procc the Tome (trinket from AV) from what I've seen (not 100 % on this, might have been Eye of the Tiger too). Yesterday I had m+ runs where a whopping 40 % of my damage came from Vakash, Tome and Iceblood Deathsnare. That's without the ring, mind you. I really think Vakash is a strong contender for the MH weapon slot if you mostly care about m+.
Vakash does pack a nice punch, but the only reason I didn't include it was because of 1h vs 2h. So for your first purchase using it on half a weapon slot is a lot worse than a full. If you have an off hand already, Aakash is definitely worth a look!
@@LBNinja7 Fair point! Also, come to think of it, I'm guessing Rageheart also proccs the ring? Either way: Thanks for the video and all your hard work! It helped me a lot!
I do think some players will shift toward Vakash as the season goes on, but you should really only consider using bullions on a main hand if you got a good Heroic+ off hand in week one, maybe even just myth+
I'd say broodkeeper is a rather bad trinket choice for m+; also for m+ pushing dreambinder is pretty much the best choice there is; rageheart + belor relos/call to dominance is the most solid in terms of throughput; Ire if you want extra safety but as mw you shouldnt need it;
Broodkeeper's passive hot adds up to a few percent in your overall healing, but the vers it gives you also scales every healing source that you do! It really is a slept on trinket by some in raid, and really was a powerhouse in its former season!
@@LBNinja7 purely for m+ mistweaver doesnt need additional healing. That is why it doesnt need aug to heal in high keys unlike rdruid or disc priest. Ragheart is the only exception as it also does damage along with the absorb; as for the vers you play with overvapped dr-ed vers anyway so the value you get isnt that great compared to other trinkets. Im planning to go for rageheart + belo relos for additional dmg
Hey LB! I tried to buy the Seismostaff last night. However, it was not showing up as an option to buy. I set the filter to show all items available and still not there. Anyone have a clue?
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Hey, I picked up MW for this season and have found your guides so helpful, thank you so much :)
I went right for my seedling (had an lfr version from s3) and I couldn’t be happier!
Great choice! Little guy cranks!
I would add some more in there especially when you recommend Fyrakks Tainted Heart. If you already have a high lvl S3 one it'll probably toe you over for a couple of weeks and you'll likely get more benefit from running Nelths Call to Dominance and a S3 Fyrakks.
Yes! I wish I added this like I did with seedling!
I really cant imagine Nelth being any good in S4 M+. Its just that chi-chi by itself is already enough to top the group off repeatedly through those flurries of mastery procs. Youre buffing your throughput in a window at which youre already outhealing anything which doesnt one-shot. Nelth is more of a raid choice to me, to either supercharge your ramp during progression, or fish for some wild healing parses.
Very decent guidance, thanks a lot for sharing it :) I'll go for Seedling+Neltharions in Raid, King throughput! For M+, I'll use a Rashok along with Rageheart. I like the additional Hots it provides and that versa chunk really comes in handy with our dreaded 3x melee premade.
Goated duos!!!
I would love it if they kept the bullion system. It's nice to be able to work towards something!
Rage-heart is good, but I’ve been playing with Ward of Faceless Ire and it’s been nice having another external in a pinch
Yeah ward is pretty goated as well! for those wondering, fyrakks is a large self shield, while ward is a smaller shield you can put on others!
Yeah, i was thinking i was going to run fyrakks, but i got Ward in LFR on Tuesday and I've actually been loving it in m+. It's a great mini cocoon for squishy, defenseless classes like hunter and shaman. I feel like i'm not that squishy as a MW, plus I have expel harm to easily keep myself healthy. The shield seems like it might scale with int b.c i think they're bigger than what the tooltip says. the damage component is negligible tho, which kinda sucks
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Thank you so much! I'm not sure how you found me, but I'm so glad you made it!
I’m surprised you aren’t more hype about Nelths trinket.
That’s my number one recommendation. It just incentivizes the core monk gameplay loop of trusting your celestial in a fun interactive way, and it gives so much haste. I replaced my EB leaf with it and my life changed overnight 😅😂.
Well as he said he's mostly gearing for m+ , and nelth is pretty lackluster in dungeons. The 60 second chichi will top the group anyways, therefore the int buff will effectively just be a minor dps gain and worse than for example a simple statstick like Pips or a real damage option like Ice.
Hmmmmmm, you make good points. I feel like it has helped me with some of my most challenging encounters like 2nd NO, 3rd Hoi, and trogg boss in ulda.
But considering what you are saying I’ll probably switch out of it when I don’t need all that throughout.
I bought the sappling because i had no good trinkets wish that i waited a bit to pick up a trinket better for m+/general use
I mean the seed can crank! Having a max ill trinket for a few weeks in m+ isn't the worst option!
Dont write a lot in discord but was following the discussion there, anyways thanks for making a video about this
Neltharians call of dominance 535 and def was a good pick for both MW and WW so im happy with my first buy. i got an ashes in my vault and between the two my celestial literally triples my main stat +19k extra agil/int
What about the Vakash, the Shadow of inferno? is that not usefull add all or ( trash ) ?
It's not that it's trash, it's just the fire damage items don't add up to a really meaningful amount of damage (sadly) while also this just being a 1 hand and giving you less of a stat boost than grabbing a 2 hand
@@LBNinja7 Aaah yea I see, yea it gives like 8-11% more overall damge for me in total in a run, but the % of damage I guss is not woth the less stats boost I guss then :D ?
Hey mate, how much haste do you run now? The items give so high stats now, so I was interested if you still stack haste. Since I just got some random items and already have over 34% haste... I checked some people and it seems divided that some still run haste and some keep 30% haste and then run crit/vers. what approach do you prefer? cheers
This season it will be extremely easy to hit high numbers in secondary stats. If you are raiding, Sim the stats for the best answer. But I intend to get 30 haste and crit, then push as much vers as I can from there!
Hello, good morning friend, I would like to know what macros I can use for the Mist Weaver, thanks in advance
Like the chart, but I think you're missing Vakash. It does damage, it enables even more damage with the Eranog ring AND it can also procc the Tome (trinket from AV) from what I've seen (not 100 % on this, might have been Eye of the Tiger too). Yesterday I had m+ runs where a whopping 40 % of my damage came from Vakash, Tome and Iceblood Deathsnare. That's without the ring, mind you.
I really think Vakash is a strong contender for the MH weapon slot if you mostly care about m+.
Vakash does pack a nice punch, but the only reason I didn't include it was because of 1h vs 2h. So for your first purchase using it on half a weapon slot is a lot worse than a full. If you have an off hand already, Aakash is definitely worth a look!
@@LBNinja7 Fair point! Also, come to think of it, I'm guessing Rageheart also proccs the ring? Either way: Thanks for the video and all your hard work! It helped me a lot!
I got tome last night. Did 3 5 minute test dummy runs. Tome didn't proc once. Ever.
@@Afterhours.101 You need something to procc it as a MW. Eye of the Tiger works for example.
@@RavelKhay ok ill try it when I get home would it be worth it if I already have a 522 dominance and a ward?
@LBNinja7 so this video that you speak of discussing the Seedling trinket, which one is it?
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Very helpful video, thank you!
In s3 vakash did like 8-11% of my overall. How is this not worth the mastery stat budget in mplus?
I do think some players will shift toward Vakash as the season goes on, but you should really only consider using bullions on a main hand if you got a good Heroic+ off hand in week one, maybe even just myth+
I'd say broodkeeper is a rather bad trinket choice for m+; also for m+ pushing dreambinder is pretty much the best choice there is; rageheart + belor relos/call to dominance is the most solid in terms of throughput; Ire if you want extra safety but as mw you shouldnt need it;
Broodkeeper's passive hot adds up to a few percent in your overall healing, but the vers it gives you also scales every healing source that you do! It really is a slept on trinket by some in raid, and really was a powerhouse in its former season!
@@LBNinja7 purely for m+ mistweaver doesnt need additional healing. That is why it doesnt need aug to heal in high keys unlike rdruid or disc priest. Ragheart is the only exception as it also does damage along with the absorb; as for the vers you play with overvapped dr-ed vers anyway so the value you get isnt that great compared to other trinkets. Im planning to go for rageheart + belo relos for additional dmg
Hey LB! I tried to buy the Seismostaff last night. However, it was not showing up as an option to buy. I set the filter to show all items available and still not there. Anyone have a clue?
There are three different vendors, and I believe it’s the middle one!
Idk if its just me but the Quake detecting Weapon isnt in the shop
Damn wish this came out before NA reset
Yeah I'm sorry I was working on my guide :(
What's a Bullion? Wawthced the video and I still have no idea what it is.
A New currency. You get 1 per week and can buy weapons and trinkets from dragonflight raids
Get a chance for one to drop each week from a raid boss! If you didn't get one last week, you get 2 this week!
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RAGEHEART for the Win trinket is insane
NUTS trinket
I just feel like there isnt any situation where Id prefer Rageheart over Ward of Faceless Ire
Maybe if everyone in the group is very sturdy