The Smiths and Morrissey: Tony Wilson 05 (of 6)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 дек 2024

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  • @notdrivingaminimetro
    @notdrivingaminimetro 3 года назад +36

    He always referred to him as Steven, defo a dig 🤣

    • @odw_99
      @odw_99 3 года назад +5

      That’s true- although he did first get to know him when he was just Steven, so it might’ve just stuck

    • @DavidKRoebuck
      @DavidKRoebuck 2 года назад +4

      It’s literally his name

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +1

      So, defo' not a dig. Steven is his name. Tony knew him when he was nothing. And after he became nothing again.

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 2 месяца назад +1

      He shows how he despises Mozz

  • @1seansouth
    @1seansouth 5 лет назад +22

    I love Tony Wilson way more than Morrissey, who really is a nasty person behind it all. I love that Tony has his notes written on his palm - he has a lot of hate to get through!

    • @thedr.feelgood
      @thedr.feelgood 4 года назад +9

      Yep.... the poor woman at the record company... what a cunt !

    • @Daffy310
      @Daffy310 Год назад

      Tony sucks

  • @wesmatron
    @wesmatron 9 лет назад +17

    Vini Reily for £200 per week?
    Just proves vegetarians can get mad cow disease too.

  • @2112jonr
    @2112jonr Год назад +3

    I had strong opinions as a teenager about the sort of human being Morrissey was, even when numerous people were fawning over him, sickeningly. History has proven my intuition to be right.
    Watching this has just raised my opinion of the late Mr. Wilson still further, and cemented exactly what I thought of Morrissey all those years ago. Trust your intuition about people. 😀

  • @GaitaPonto
    @GaitaPonto 7 лет назад +20

    The fact is that Morrissey, apart from being a genius song writer, could never be as successful as he was as part of The Smiths. Tony is right.

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +1

      Are you saying Morrissey's planet sized ego got in the way? 😀

    • @GaitaPonto
      @GaitaPonto Год назад +1

      @@2112jonr yes, I guess this would be the case too 😁, but the main factor was Marr. Not even his current success level as a solo artist wouldn't be possible if he wasn't part of The Smiths. I would say he is still producing Smiths material by replicating Marr's melodies but it lacks Marr's quality, freshness and energy.

  • @GuyCybershy
    @GuyCybershy 5 лет назад +13

    Morrissey has never come close to recording an album as good as Viva Hate so Vini Reilly must have a lot more to do with it than is publicly admitted.

    • @emartinezr
      @emartinezr 5 лет назад +6

      He's recorded BETTER albums than Viva Hate. But... VH has the last remnants of the Smiths sound with him through Stephen Street.

    • @rael1999
      @rael1999 4 года назад +6

      @@emartinezr ...Reilly allegedly contributed loads to the Viva Hate album but never got the credit....not really surprised. Morrissey and Marr never really gave Rourke and Joyce the credit for the contributions to The Smiths sound.

    • @madforit2
      @madforit2 3 года назад +3

      Your Arsenal
      Vauxhall and I
      You are the quarry
      All better

    • @29memyselfandi
      @29memyselfandi 3 года назад +3

      @@madforit2 also I am not a Dog an a Chain, his last album, is a humdinger. His best in my opinion. 7 great songs on it.

  • @Reprodestruxion
    @Reprodestruxion 7 лет назад +1

    Conclusion: never beg

  • @drparnassus2867
    @drparnassus2867 4 года назад

    If Roger Ames is from Trinidad, why did Michael Winterbottom get *Keith Allen* to play him?

  • @bendyman_72
    @bendyman_72 4 года назад +12

    £1,500 for Vini for 3 weeks. Bargain...

    • @twitchygiraffe4636
      @twitchygiraffe4636 4 года назад +6

      Morrissey’s a tight fisted cunt of a mummy’s boy and that’s from an(ex) fan! We (the english fans that is!) mean fuck all to him and obviously so does musicians and anyone who helps him! I hope the worst happens for him for the rest of his life!!!!

    • @twitchygiraffe4636
      @twitchygiraffe4636 3 года назад +1

      Ha! Ha! Ha! Nice one I do a bit! But it has to be said that Mozzer has stood on a few fingers in his time!!!!!

    • @neilaspin008
      @neilaspin008 Год назад +1

      Fucking hell! Is that how much he got paid?

  • @darrenwalshe65
    @darrenwalshe65 6 лет назад +12

    Tony being a bit like Morrissey with some of his comments! croydon

    • @thephoenix3155
      @thephoenix3155 4 года назад +1

      Not as extreme, though.

    • @DavidKRoebuck
      @DavidKRoebuck 3 года назад

      They are quite similar, neither is quite as clever as they think they are. Both play it up

    • @DavidKRoebuck
      @DavidKRoebuck 2 года назад +1

      Camp cutting bully Vs camp cutting bully

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +2

      You've evidently never been there. It's a hole. Dreadful place. Female staff at the Home Office were only recently being stalked outside their offices on a regular basis in broad daylight. Grim place.

  • @twitchygiraffe4636
    @twitchygiraffe4636 4 года назад +9

    It’s good the that Tony speaks out about this abomination of a man who thinks it’s ok to casually ruin people who have helped him get what he wants! Although Maladjusted (apt name for a album by him to say the least!) is a great album and probably the last great album he’s had, I am glad universal dropped him once they took over island records, because no one wants a difficult arsehole artist who is not flexible to have to deal with at a major record label!!!!

  • @13strange67
    @13strange67 3 года назад +3

    Tony Wilson's Dad was 'GAY' ? ! How did that happen ?

    • @outsidethepyramid
      @outsidethepyramid 3 года назад

      oh yeah i never thought of that lmao

    • @1800555fear
      @1800555fear 2 года назад

      He came out sometime after Tony was born...

    • @obiwanshinobi5098
      @obiwanshinobi5098 2 года назад

      Well he was at least bisexual enough to ejaculate into tonys mum and make a baby Tony. Cant be 100% gay and do that! Lol

    • @DavidKRoebuck
      @DavidKRoebuck 2 года назад +1

      @@1800555fear his story about finding out after seeing his father emerge from a public lavatory hand in hand with another guy is an absolute whopper

  • @CruceEntertainment
    @CruceEntertainment 3 года назад +7

    I love the Smiths and love Morrissey, but Morrissey would be nobody without the Smiths.

    • @lancashirebomber9744
      @lancashirebomber9744 3 года назад +6

      he was the only one to go and create great stuff after the smiths, so yr wrong.

    • @jojohairee9987
      @jojohairee9987 3 года назад +2

      @@lancashirebomber9744 no he's not the only one what are you on about. Johnny Marr had a very successful career after the smiths playing with bands like modest mouse, the preteder, electronic, and even guest playing with oasis.

    • @joshbaino3087
      @joshbaino3087 2 года назад +4

      @@lancashirebomber9744 But he wouldn't be able to have all the people on those later records without the initial fame with The Smiths

    • @Daffy310
      @Daffy310 Год назад

      @@jojohairee9987 Um nope

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +1

      @@lancashirebomber9744 Yeah. He's the only one who's also proven himself to be a complete tosser, too.x 😀

  • @joenicholls461
    @joenicholls461 6 лет назад +7

    That’s a pretty big chip on Wilson’s shoulder about London isn’t it ..

    • @lenfirewood4089
      @lenfirewood4089 4 года назад +7

      No just Croydon!

    • @DavidKRoebuck
      @DavidKRoebuck 3 года назад +1

      Tray of chips and gravy

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +2

      No, just Steven Morrissey. And I'd not call it a chip. And Croydon was and still is a total hole, where female staff at the Home Office get stalked as they leave work.
      At least Tony lived in London for quite some time. Unlike wankface.

  • @greggbelt9387
    @greggbelt9387 7 месяцев назад

    Nobody wonder I stopped listening to Morrissey at the right time.

  • @Daffy310
    @Daffy310 2 года назад +7

    Oh Tony what a sad little person you are.

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +3

      Better sad than racist. x 🙂

    • @Springheeledjim5
      @Springheeledjim5 5 месяцев назад

      @@2112jonrWho’s racist ?

  • @thephoenix3155
    @thephoenix3155 4 года назад +5

    I’ve never liked Morrissey I always thought his voice was creepy.

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +2

      He's a total tosser.

  • @melsagelord3991
    @melsagelord3991 2 года назад +3

    Bitter.

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr Год назад +2

      True. Steven did get more and more so with age. Total tosser.

  • @mickdevlin
    @mickdevlin 3 года назад +2

    Pop music is NOT art. Pop music is pop music. Fair play to Tony Wilson though.......he always called people out.