@@TheBrothersBlue long story. I launched a podcast recently and accidentally had the feed to my yt channel and it’s on apple/spotify if interested (same name as my channel, not linking out of respect to NFLSE)
@@jeffredfern3744 I don’t know if I believe that. I personally can’t give up on Franklin. I’m not saying I’m right. I’m just saying I will need to be proven wrong simply just for fandom and I’ve seen the flashes. Anyway, Brett is who introduced me to Khalil Shakir, and why I loved that pick for Buffalo.
@@kev792honestly I’m going to say no. Adonai’s biggest concerns are how good can he consistently run routes, and how consistent is he in effort and take over traits general. He has size, speed, some wiggle, and he makes contested catches. He easily can be a steal of the effort can be maximized.
@@GodsServant543 all top 3 WRs have those same traits minus nabers. But nabers trait is his explosiveness and elite change of direction. AD is slower on film than the top 3 even tho he ran a 4.3. Edit: I like AD, and he’s extremely talented and silky smooth. But the big 3 are better right now. Hope all these dudes reach their maximum ceiling tho.
My top 15 before starting the video: 1- Marvin Harrison 2- Malik Nabers 3- Rome Odunze 4- Brian Thomas 5- AD Mitchell 6- Ladd McConkey 7- Keon Coleman 8- Xavier Worthy 9- Troy Franklin 10- Xavier Legette 11- Roman Wilson 12- Jalyn Polk 13- Rickey Persal 14- Malachi Corley 15- Tez Walker
I think you've finally nailed it. Polk has been one of my favorite prospects for a while. Polk or Pearsal have been my favorite picks for the Bengals in the 2nd if they are there. Polk looks like locked in solid pro to me. If DT Newton slips in the draft trading up for him in 2nd would be what I would be hopinging for after getting hopefully Mims in the 1st.
I looked up plaxico burress College stats, and that dude was a demon. He set the michigan state single season record in tds, catches, and yards while leading the team in special teams tackles as a gunner, while also having had 2 forced fumbles, and 2 blocked field goals.
Appreciate the shout out about not covering some of the top 5 edges in detail in the last episode. Y'all are absolutely correct that you have covered many in detail already. As a bears fans hoping to find some value in the later rounds, I was hoping for a deeper breakdown on Jonah Ellis since I'm living in a world where I hope he's there at 75 for them 😂
Hey guys, I'm generally just an audio listener but I gotta say you did great with this WR ranking. I have 50 WRs ranked myself I believe only 2 on my top 30 did not make either of yours. #29 Xavier Weaver and #30 Devaughn Vele. I don't normally subscribe or do social media but wanted to support the podcast in some way
A positional draft would be an interesting concept to do. Load up the simulator, and take it in turns drafting ONLY one position. You'd be able to get some good conversations going about who's higher on who, and player to team fits impacting where they go. It would only work for those stacked positions like WR or Edge unfortunately so maybe not this year as you've already done those rankings
Absolutely crushing these rankings! But can you please keep mentioning the school associated with player when you circle back to them. Hard to follow when not watching on screen. Keep killin it!
Really enjoyed this one. The depth of names here that we need to be aware of and some better details to help fans be better prepared and try to fit players in to their specific teams' needs... really helps. I had to go back to your post combine 3 round mock draft and I have to ask for another 3 rounder that better fits the free agent market changes. I feel like this draft class has the depth for almost every team to fill needs and do some best player available picks... except for like the Raiders (real holes at QB, OL and CB), Browns(no pick until 55) and Dolphins(where to start???). I know it is a grind but, the one round all stars is sort of boring at this point. Thanks! And, take care and enjoy!
Hey Trev & Connor. Great job with the show all off-season. I'm one of the co-hosts of the Thunder Down Under Chargers Podcast in Australia, and this is how I see the WR group this year. For each of these players, I watched between 3-10 games of coach's film. I'm happy to discuss any or all of them in the comments below. If you think I'm too high or too low on any of 'your guys' let me know! Day 1 Grade 1a. Marv Harrison Jnr (Ohio State) 1b. Malik Nabers (LSU) 3. Rome Odzune (Washington) 4a. Adonai Mitchell (Texas) 4b. Brian Thomas Jnr (LSU) Day 2 Grade 6. Ladd McConkey (Georgia) 7. Xavier Worthy (Texas) 8. Xavier Legette (South Carolina) 9. Troy Franklin (Oregon) 10. Jermaine Burton (Alabama) 11a. Roman Wilson (Michigan) 11b. Ricky Pearsall (Florida) 13. Ja'Lynn Polk (Washington) 14. Keon Coleman (Florida State) 15. Devontez Walker (North Carolina) Day 3 Grade 16. Javon Baker (UCF) 17. Johnny Wilson (Florida State) 18. Jamari Thrash (Louisville) 19. Malik Washington (Virginia) 20. Anthony Gould (Oregon State) 21. Malachi Corley (Western Kentucky) 22. Brenden Rice (USC) 23. Tahj Washington (USC) 24. Jacob Cowing (Arizona) 25. Jalen McMillan (Washington) Sleeper: Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint (Georgia) Malachi Corley is probably my most controversial ranking and it was a hard one for me. Here were my notes on him: • 22.0 yo, 5”11, 215 pounds (Deebo comparison, 5”11, 214 pounds) • Four seasons: 49 games, 3,035 yds, 29 TDs • 2023 stats: o 12 games, 79 catches, 985 yds, 11 TDs o 82.6 Receiving Grade o 64.9 Run Blocking Grade o 7.1% Drop Rate (5 Drops in 2023). 4.8% for career o 23.5% Contested Catch Rate o 80.7 Grade v Man Coverage o 15 Missed Tackles Forced o 8.6 YAC/Reception (T-18th in college football) o 330 Screen Yards (1st in college football) • Didn’t test at Combine (no explanation). Apparently ran a 4.47s 40-Yard Dash at his Pro Day (cf, Deebo Samuel who ran a 4.48s at the Combine). • Watched games v Auburn (2022), Troy, LA Tech, and Ohio State (2023). Deliberately watched games against better schools. Don’t care as much if he dominated against lesser competition. • Thickly built slot receiver who was also used out wide in stacked formations. Average speed and burst off the line of scrimmage. • Hands are really bad (doesn’t haul anything in downfield if there’s contact) and route running isn’t nearly as tight as the Day 2 slot receivers. Ability to make people miss in space is also a tier below them but he is still a YAC weapon. Not helped by poor QB play. A real handful to bring down though given strength profile. • Didn’t demonstrate on tape that he’ll be able to beat man coverage at NFL level. More of a “get the ball into his hands” guy (end arounds/screens) and see what he can do after the catch because he’s tough to bring down (albeit not elusive). • Takes snaps off on running plays. • Overall more of a boring watch than I was expecting given all the hype. Overpowered smaller schools but I wasn’t convinced that his skillset will translate well to NFL level. Aspects of his game are enticing, but I would rather bank on a more complete player for the position.
Isiah Williams is a player, Not a prospect. He makes tough catches. Creates insane space. So many Smaller WRs late but Illinois is showing they can really develop players. Top CB last year, Top DT this year. Coach Bret is doing amazing things at Illinois. And yeah, the kid just stays open. Illinois had 2 WRs dominate the SR Bowl actually.
Love these videos. Packers fan. Sorry. But what WR do you see available at 88/91 that would be a great fit? I would like to see Burton or Corley, but doubt they will be there. LaFluer can scheme guys open especially for YAC. Thanks for your thoughts.
Did you guys do a Safety rankings yet? Would like one even though its not a glamorous position for sure. Enjoyed watching this one, but after binging WR content for the last week I'm more confused and unsure than I was when I started. The mock draft with non-NFL people idea sounds pretty fucking funny though i'd watch it
I think the really interesting part of this historically good class is outside of AD Mitchell I don’t really see any clear paths for guys to become true X receivers outside of the top 3. It’s just after that there’s a ton of guys that can be high level WR2/3s in different roles across the formation. I do wonder though with like 20 guys that fit that bill if one of them ends up growing out of that role and becoming an X guy.
🐻 Drafting Caleb....Does that make Rice worth more to them? Putting Caleb's No.1 WR as his slot WR w/2 No 1 WRs ahead of him to learn from. Seems like a way 🐻 can fill that role later, cheaper, yet better.
WR2-3 Keon Coleman. 💯 6-4 but the way he gets in and out of breaks is like a small 4.2 guy. Never seen a 6-4 guy stop and go so quick. He can go up, his hands are like Odell. They can catch anything. Jerry Rice 💎 Diamond stance, hands give like he's catching an Egg 🥚😳. When you scout this guy....Only reason people wouldn't Grade him a 1st Rd pick is they didn't watch the tape 📼
Luke McCaffrey is very quick in and out of breaks. Like Keon Coleman that's how he creates his space. Good hands. He won't be a Mvp like his brother Christian but I think Late Rd he can be a really good Slot WR.
Blind comp, player A or player B? Player A: 6'2 7/8" 199 lbs 4.34 40 40" vert 10'9" broad College: LSU Scouting notes: "Tall and fast... a linear route-runner who may need a limited route tree... he'll need to improve his ball skills to take advantage of all that speed... Double moves leave defenders off-balance and stumbling." Player B: 6'2 7/8" 209 lbs 4.33 40 38.5" vert 10'6" broad College: LSU Scouting notes: "Presents an appealing combination of size, length and speed... will occasionally go through the motions as a route-runner... needs to improve intermediate routes and play a little more physically... could be counted on as an NFL team’s designated deep guy early in his career." B is Brian Thomas Jr. A is DJ Chark
Johnny Wilson pry falls, may be a Udfa but man ..Guy is a Weapon. You get in the RedZone you can sub out you 5-8 Space WR for a 6-7 Monster who can go Wayyyy up. 6-7 vs 5-10 CBs. And Wilson can jump high, Runs 4.5. Use WRs as Weapons and this guy is that. A 400yard WR, who has 12TDs a year. 💯 Needs the right OC-WR coach combo. But the guy is the closest thing we have seen to Megatron. He's a Prospect over player, but with a 9.89 Ras that Ceiling is MegaTron. Again tho, 4th-5th Rd adding a guy who can get you TDs in the RedZone would be smart. He doesn't need to know routes really. Streak. Run Straight at 4.5 then jump up at 6-7 with insane length over CBs who are at most 6-2, usually 5-10. Have him jump up for 50/50 🏈 in the end zone all day. Some the coaching I've seen this year is just... really odd. Florida State is the new Clemson, but them, Texas are a few teams that the talent coming out just wasn't used right imo. Texas has a 360Pd 3tech who is pry NT1 in this class and a NT who is a top 3 3Tech in this class maybe. 😂😂😂🤷🏻 Nfl coaching is huge for these guys.
Me and my friend ranked some WRs for our podcast, we don’t work with it so we didn’t had time to watch everyone, so we selected some, and my ranking of the players I watched was: 1. MHJ 2. Malik Nabers 3. Rome Odunze (Huge gap) 4. BTJ 5. Xavier Legette 6. Adonai Mitchell 7. Troy Franklin 8. Ladd McConkey (Smaller gap) 9. Xavier Worthy 10. Ricky Pearsall 11. Roman Wilson
I think Adonai Mitchell will answer the "how much does he want it" questions with a resounding 100% because I think he has shown himself to be an immensely clutch and high-character receiver. He scored the go ahead touchdown for Georgia in the 2021 natty and the 2022 semifinal against Ohio State alongside that insane body-bending catch for Texas against Washington to keep that game close. This dude turns it on when the lights are brightest. But then read his letter to Texas fans and Georgia fans that he wrote when he declared for the draft. He showed an immense appreciation for both universities and the people around him. I get that on the film he shows an inconsistent stamina and route tempo, but off the field he has so many quality intangibles that have me confident he'll continue to dedicate himself to refine his craft and polish the details of his game. Plus, you gotta remember that he missed basically a whole year of football missing the vast majority of the 2022 season, after a year where he was only a rotational player as a freshman. He's going to pick up on some of those details just by getting more snaps and experience at the NFL level
Then why he is so uninterested when he chooses??? Tape don’t lie. And teams will be cautious or completely turn off. Too much talent elsewhere to risk a high pick.
1. Malik Nabers 2. Brian Thomas Jr. 3. Marvin Harrison Jr. 4. Rome Odunze 5. Ladd McConkey 6. Adonai Mitchell 7. Rickey Pearsall 8. Xavier Worthy 9. Malik Washington 10. Roman Wilson 11. Jermaine Burton 12. Troy Franklin 13. Xavier Leggette 14. Keon Coleman 15. Ja'lynn Polk 16. Luke McCaffrey 17. Malachi Corley 18. Jalen McMillan 19. Isaiah Williams 20. Brenden Rice 21. Drake Stoops 22. Lideatrick Griffin 23. Devontez Walker 24. Tahj Washington 25. Jha'Quan Jackson 26. Jamari Thrash 27. Jalen Croker 28. Javon Baker 29. Bub Means 30. Anthony Gould 31. Ainias Smith 32. Jacob Cowing 33. Jordan Whittington 34. Johnny Wilson 35. Xavier Weaver 36. Cornelius Johnson 37. Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint 38. Ryan Flournoy 39. Devaughn Vele 40. Tayvion Robinson
Javon Baker is my favorite non top 10 (or hell 15 in this class) player at their position. I think he's plenty smooth, has ENOUGH speed, has good enough hands. 6'1 200 is not small, just not HUGE. But... His arm length, his hand size... That is top of the class compared to many. Between the tracking, the willingness to come back to the QB to get/be open, the perfect all rounder WR who just isn't TOP TIER athlete to be a number 1. Otherwise, I think he's got all the tools to be an impact number 3 day 1 and develop into a 2!
Does Diontae Johnson change who yall would pick for the panthers or would it still be one of the separators? And a fun comp that was on the bootleg pod was Worthy/Johnny Knox
Greatly appreciate the video and the rankings. However I came away with a feeling that this list was done more from the heart rather than the head. McMillion/Thrash are both extremely good tradecraft players. They would fit with any NFL and could start in week 1. But a players like Coleman/Corley have some good talent, but obviously need a lot of work to step it up to NFL level. I have one question, and I am serious with this, does the NFL value raw players that much more and hope that they can coach them up?
I completely agree with the criticism of Worthy but imo Troy Franklin has the same problems (skinny, drop issues, can’t handle physicality, etc) so I’d have them both right next to each other
For context Johnny Wilson has better combine times and measurables than Keon Coleman. I hated Wilson during this process and moved him to TE but rewatching everyone I’m a lot higher on him than I was. I think he could be a move around weapon in an offense more than just being a WR or TE
WR are being paid to get open, and catch the ball. Cowing will find a nice home somewhere in the league. Also love to see you staying strong on Johnny Wilson. He's a really fun to watch prospect.
My top 10 (right now): 1: Marvin Harrison Jr 2. Rome Odunze (my favorite player in the draft) 3. Malik Nabers (Fun Fact: according to Dane brugler, he is the nephew of former Chargers FB Gabe Nabers. Who is also one of Herbert’s best friends, former roommate, and together they were the Brisket Boys) 4. Brian Thomas Jr (dare i say closer to Nabers and Odunze tier than the next group of guys? 5. Ladd McConkey 6.Adonai Mitchell 7. Troy Franklin 8. Keon Coleman 9. Roman Wilson 10. Ricky Pearsall Connor almost convinced me on Polk though
@Trevor Sikkema with the browns not picking until 54 overall I need 3 prospects you think will be there and the browns should draft based on current roster construction?!
It would be cool to know where players rank roughly on your big board or at least the round grade you have for them. Maybe not every player but groups of players. Like are players 20-25 Early day 3 picks? Love the content, though! Love being an addict
As a team they were some of my favorite guys to talk to at the combine (Fautanu too) but I felt that way about their film before ever interviewing any of them (had Penix QB3 in our summer scouting episode). That program was pretty special this year. I don't have a 'favorite team' or rooting interests in college football
The addicts have been waiting for this one
Love your videos dude!
@@KryptoChaos13appreciate you Bobby! I am a fellow sex addict!
And what if I have?! Lol
Am I crazy or did you post an April mock draft this morning that is nowhere to be found?
@@TheBrothersBlue long story. I launched a podcast recently and accidentally had the feed to my yt channel and it’s on apple/spotify if interested (same name as my channel, not linking out of respect to NFLSE)
It’s not the podcast we addicts deserve. But it’s the one we needed right now. You guys are legends.
Big $ex Addict Hours out here.... THIRTY WRs!! These dudes are the best. (P.S. You guys still owe us a "top 10 Canadians" video)
$Ex addicts is the greatest fan base name ever
@@omarserrato1575 completely agree haha
Omg, the Washington Receivers are like pokemon! McMillan is the base form , evolves to Polk, then Odunze.
Ha! I like that
Perfect trio
Connor really made the addicts itch for this one with that tweet
Adonai Mitchell is the most talented receiver in draft how do these analysis have jobs ?
@@123shoshanbecause there’s other insanely talented receivers in this class
@@123shoshanLMAOOOOO😭😭🤣🤣😂
Can't wait for the Luther Burden talk next draft season!
Oh, I am HYPED
@@TampaBayTreTetairoa McMillan as well.
McMillan is number 1 though…
@@AjithRM29he a freshman so you gotta wait 2 years
@@captainspartan04 He has already played 2 seasons 2022 and 2023. So i think he will declare next season.
You two have made my day. I’m so used to hearing everyone crap on Franklin, I expected to see him in the 20s
Brett Kollman is often wrong.
The rice situation definitely will help that.
@@jeffredfern3744 I don’t know if I believe that. I personally can’t give up on Franklin. I’m not saying I’m right. I’m just saying I will need to be proven wrong simply just for fandom and I’ve seen the flashes. Anyway, Brett is who introduced me to Khalil Shakir, and why I loved that pick for Buffalo.
Nacua was a great find but we gotta put some respect on D. Wicks name too
true true true
Adonai Mitchell is the most talented receiver in draft how do these analysis have jobs ?
@@123shoshanhe literally isn’t. The top dudes have multiple traits and skills that are better than AD’s.
@@kev792honestly I’m going to say no. Adonai’s biggest concerns are how good can he consistently run routes, and how consistent is he in effort and take over traits general. He has size, speed, some wiggle, and he makes contested catches. He easily can be a steal of the effort can be maximized.
@@GodsServant543 all top 3 WRs have those same traits minus nabers. But nabers trait is his explosiveness and elite change of direction. AD is slower on film than the top 3 even tho he ran a 4.3.
Edit: I like AD, and he’s extremely talented and silky smooth. But the big 3 are better right now. Hope all these dudes reach their maximum ceiling tho.
Connor u should bring on ur NBC mate Chris simms. U 3 would vibe so well, and given some of his recent rankings there would be lots to talk about.
These legends are pumping out so much elite content lol. 30 WRs!!!!! That should be behind a paywall! But these two are for the people! 🔥🔥🔥
According to Gracie, Jalyn Polk got that dog in him
My top 15 before starting the video:
1- Marvin Harrison
2- Malik Nabers
3- Rome Odunze
4- Brian Thomas
5- AD Mitchell
6- Ladd McConkey
7- Keon Coleman
8- Xavier Worthy
9- Troy Franklin
10- Xavier Legette
11- Roman Wilson
12- Jalyn Polk
13- Rickey Persal
14- Malachi Corley
15- Tez Walker
When connor said “this episode is for the freaks” all i could think about for the next 5 mins was that timmy trumpet song
One of us gooble gobble
I think you've finally nailed it. Polk has been one of my favorite prospects for a while. Polk or Pearsal have been my favorite picks for the Bengals in the 2nd if they are there. Polk looks like locked in solid pro to me. If DT Newton slips in the draft trading up for him in 2nd would be what I would be hopinging for after getting hopefully Mims in the 1st.
I looked up plaxico burress College stats, and that dude was a demon. He set the michigan state single season record in tds, catches, and yards while leading the team in special teams tackles as a gunner, while also having had 2 forced fumbles, and 2 blocked field goals.
Appreciate the shout out about not covering some of the top 5 edges in detail in the last episode. Y'all are absolutely correct that you have covered many in detail already. As a bears fans hoping to find some value in the later rounds, I was hoping for a deeper breakdown on Jonah Ellis since I'm living in a world where I hope he's there at 75 for them 😂
Great lists as always gents! Would still love to see that 2nd round with EJ and Brett before the actual draft!!
putting my newborn to sleep and locking in with the boys . ty for your service
Bro…are you me?! Dads + addicts unite!
Play it over the speakers, the newborn needs these takes for brain development (also congrats on parent life!)
@@TampaBayTre his first word will be d-d-d-designated pass rusher
@@TampaBayTre and thanks brother, these pods get me through the long nights
Y'all do awesome work. Thank you for such in depth analysis. Killing it!
Appreciate you!
would love if you guys added the round grade lines in the 1-30 graphic. keep killin it!!!
Hey guys, I'm generally just an audio listener but I gotta say you did great with this WR ranking. I have 50 WRs ranked myself I believe only 2 on my top 30 did not make either of yours. #29 Xavier Weaver and #30 Devaughn Vele. I don't normally subscribe or do social media but wanted to support the podcast in some way
Man Johnny Wilson at 26 lol. The fact that someone’s WR10-15 can be someone else’s WR 25-30. Crazy class.
A positional draft would be an interesting concept to do. Load up the simulator, and take it in turns drafting ONLY one position. You'd be able to get some good conversations going about who's higher on who, and player to team fits impacting where they go. It would only work for those stacked positions like WR or Edge unfortunately so maybe not this year as you've already done those rankings
This sounds fire
This brings me pure joy. Great list, gents!!
Absolutely crushing these rankings! But can you please keep mentioning the school associated with player when you circle back to them. Hard to follow when not watching on screen. Keep killin it!
Are you guys doing a draft watch along? I would love to see it!
Great stuff as always. Curious to hear about the discrepancy on Gould. 20 vs unranked.
Really enjoyed this one. The depth of names here that we need to be aware of and some better details to help fans be better prepared and try to fit players in to their specific teams' needs... really helps. I had to go back to your post combine 3 round mock draft and I have to ask for another 3 rounder that better fits the free agent market changes. I feel like this draft class has the depth for almost every team to fill needs and do some best player available picks... except for like the Raiders (real holes at QB, OL and CB), Browns(no pick until 55) and Dolphins(where to start???). I know it is a grind but, the one round all stars is sort of boring at this point. Thanks! And, take care and enjoy!
Trey and Connor, you guys really do have something special going on. Great chemistry. Keep partnering together.
Was scratching my neck for the past 24 hours
Alot of plp lov to bring up Penix Wr's but id like to see what he looks like with wideouts who can separate 😯
Hey Trev & Connor. Great job with the show all off-season.
I'm one of the co-hosts of the Thunder Down Under Chargers Podcast in Australia, and this is how I see the WR group this year.
For each of these players, I watched between 3-10 games of coach's film. I'm happy to discuss any or all of them in the comments below. If you think I'm too high or too low on any of 'your guys' let me know!
Day 1 Grade
1a. Marv Harrison Jnr (Ohio State)
1b. Malik Nabers (LSU)
3. Rome Odzune (Washington)
4a. Adonai Mitchell (Texas)
4b. Brian Thomas Jnr (LSU)
Day 2 Grade
6. Ladd McConkey (Georgia)
7. Xavier Worthy (Texas)
8. Xavier Legette (South Carolina)
9. Troy Franklin (Oregon)
10. Jermaine Burton (Alabama)
11a. Roman Wilson (Michigan)
11b. Ricky Pearsall (Florida)
13. Ja'Lynn Polk (Washington)
14. Keon Coleman (Florida State)
15. Devontez Walker (North Carolina)
Day 3 Grade
16. Javon Baker (UCF)
17. Johnny Wilson (Florida State)
18. Jamari Thrash (Louisville)
19. Malik Washington (Virginia)
20. Anthony Gould (Oregon State)
21. Malachi Corley (Western Kentucky)
22. Brenden Rice (USC)
23. Tahj Washington (USC)
24. Jacob Cowing (Arizona)
25. Jalen McMillan (Washington)
Sleeper: Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint (Georgia)
Malachi Corley is probably my most controversial ranking and it was a hard one for me. Here were my notes on him:
• 22.0 yo, 5”11, 215 pounds (Deebo comparison, 5”11, 214 pounds)
• Four seasons: 49 games, 3,035 yds, 29 TDs
• 2023 stats:
o 12 games, 79 catches, 985 yds, 11 TDs
o 82.6 Receiving Grade
o 64.9 Run Blocking Grade
o 7.1% Drop Rate (5 Drops in 2023). 4.8% for career
o 23.5% Contested Catch Rate
o 80.7 Grade v Man Coverage
o 15 Missed Tackles Forced
o 8.6 YAC/Reception (T-18th in college football)
o 330 Screen Yards (1st in college football)
• Didn’t test at Combine (no explanation). Apparently ran a 4.47s 40-Yard Dash at his Pro Day (cf, Deebo Samuel who ran a 4.48s at the Combine).
• Watched games v Auburn (2022), Troy, LA Tech, and Ohio State (2023). Deliberately watched games against better schools. Don’t care as much if he dominated against lesser competition.
• Thickly built slot receiver who was also used out wide in stacked formations. Average speed and burst off the line of scrimmage.
• Hands are really bad (doesn’t haul anything in downfield if there’s contact) and route running isn’t nearly as tight as the Day 2 slot receivers. Ability to make people miss in space is also a tier below them but he is still a YAC weapon. Not helped by poor QB play. A real handful to bring down though given strength profile.
• Didn’t demonstrate on tape that he’ll be able to beat man coverage at NFL level. More of a “get the ball into his hands” guy (end arounds/screens) and see what he can do after the catch because he’s tough to bring down (albeit not elusive).
• Takes snaps off on running plays.
• Overall more of a boring watch than I was expecting given all the hype. Overpowered smaller schools but I wasn’t convinced that his skillset will translate well to NFL level. Aspects of his game are enticing, but I would rather bank on a more complete player for the position.
This video will feed families for generations
These guys are fun to watch.
Actually going in the comments, taking them as feedback and even responding to questions is very cool of you
One thing I’ve learned from watching NFLSE for a few months is Trevor loves the word “nuanced”
Tayvion Robinson when he was at Virginia Tech is the film to watch. Was a baller for us on offense and special teams.
Damn 30 prospects! Sorry boys but imma need this for every position group from now on.
Yeah, I don't think they know how addiction actually works...
Or do they?
Y'all need even more views. This is quality content.
Isiah Williams is a player, Not a prospect. He makes tough catches. Creates insane space. So many Smaller WRs late but Illinois is showing they can really develop players. Top CB last year, Top DT this year. Coach Bret is doing amazing things at Illinois. And yeah, the kid just stays open. Illinois had 2 WRs dominate the SR Bowl actually.
Great sickos content. This class has so many interesting guys, we needed it.
Great job. Love these kind of videos and breakdowns. Go Blue 〽️
Connor Rogers vs Adonai Mitchell is an all time matchup
Thank you for these videos 🔥
Thanks guys, another great video. Thanks for the education.
Just unbelievable content, you love to see it
Love these videos. Packers fan. Sorry. But what WR do you see available at 88/91 that would be a great fit? I would like to see Burton or Corley, but doubt they will be there. LaFluer can scheme guys open especially for YAC. Thanks for your thoughts.
Adonia’s highlights were exciting to watch.
Awesome job!! Loved it
Best draft pod out there!
My guys, XAVIER WEAVER COLORADO look into the kid!!!
Did you guys do a Safety rankings yet? Would like one even though its not a glamorous position for sure. Enjoyed watching this one, but after binging WR content for the last week I'm more confused and unsure than I was when I started. The mock draft with non-NFL people idea sounds pretty fucking funny though i'd watch it
I think the really interesting part of this historically good class is outside of AD Mitchell I don’t really see any clear paths for guys to become true X receivers outside of the top 3. It’s just after that there’s a ton of guys that can be high level WR2/3s in different roles across the formation. I do wonder though with like 20 guys that fit that bill if one of them ends up growing out of that role and becoming an X guy.
🐻 Drafting Caleb....Does that make Rice worth more to them? Putting Caleb's No.1 WR as his slot WR w/2 No 1 WRs ahead of him to learn from. Seems like a way 🐻 can fill that role later, cheaper, yet better.
Can’t wait till this channel is your full time job and you will be able to do nfl draft live streams
Love the deeper episodes
WR2-3 Keon Coleman. 💯 6-4 but the way he gets in and out of breaks is like a small 4.2 guy. Never seen a 6-4 guy stop and go so quick. He can go up, his hands are like Odell. They can catch anything. Jerry Rice 💎 Diamond stance, hands give like he's catching an Egg 🥚😳. When you scout this guy....Only reason people wouldn't Grade him a 1st Rd pick is they didn't watch the tape 📼
Excellent video
Im assuming jermaine burton was excluded from both your lists for off-field reasons, but i would still love to hear your guys evaluation of his tape
I agree on Mitchell at 4. He jumped BTJ at 4 on my list about a week ago.
I say 3
@@Jamar-lg9ob that’s fair too. I’m growing weary of Nabers after reports of his character and some of his comments.
Every Bills fan should watch this episode twice
Why who should they draft ?
Luke McCaffrey is very quick in and out of breaks. Like Keon Coleman that's how he creates his space. Good hands. He won't be a Mvp like his brother Christian but I think Late Rd he can be a really good Slot WR.
I would love if you guys did a mock draft with people who don't watch football, I think that was a hilarious idea
good lord i love this podcast
Blind comp, player A or player B?
Player A:
6'2 7/8"
199 lbs
4.34 40
40" vert
10'9" broad
College: LSU
Scouting notes:
"Tall and fast... a linear route-runner who may need a limited route tree... he'll need to improve his ball skills to take advantage of all that speed... Double moves leave defenders off-balance and stumbling."
Player B:
6'2 7/8"
209 lbs
4.33 40
38.5" vert
10'6" broad
College: LSU
Scouting notes:
"Presents an appealing combination of size, length and speed... will occasionally go through the motions as a route-runner... needs to improve intermediate routes and play a little more physically... could be counted on as an NFL team’s designated deep guy early in his career."
B is Brian Thomas Jr.
A is DJ Chark
Johnny Wilson pry falls, may be a Udfa but man ..Guy is a Weapon. You get in the RedZone you can sub out you 5-8 Space WR for a 6-7 Monster who can go Wayyyy up. 6-7 vs 5-10 CBs. And Wilson can jump high, Runs 4.5. Use WRs as Weapons and this guy is that. A 400yard WR, who has 12TDs a year. 💯 Needs the right OC-WR coach combo. But the guy is the closest thing we have seen to Megatron. He's a Prospect over player, but with a 9.89 Ras that Ceiling is MegaTron. Again tho, 4th-5th Rd adding a guy who can get you TDs in the RedZone would be smart. He doesn't need to know routes really. Streak. Run Straight at 4.5 then jump up at 6-7 with insane length over CBs who are at most 6-2, usually 5-10. Have him jump up for 50/50 🏈 in the end zone all day. Some the coaching I've seen this year is just... really odd. Florida State is the new Clemson, but them, Texas are a few teams that the talent coming out just wasn't used right imo. Texas has a 360Pd 3tech who is pry NT1 in this class and a NT who is a top 3 3Tech in this class maybe. 😂😂😂🤷🏻 Nfl coaching is huge for these guys.
Love these. I'd love to see Daniel Jeremiah for a collab mock draft and updated CB rankings, maybe top 15?
Me and my friend ranked some WRs for our podcast, we don’t work with it so we didn’t had time to watch everyone, so we selected some, and my ranking of the players I watched was:
1. MHJ
2. Malik Nabers
3. Rome Odunze
(Huge gap)
4. BTJ
5. Xavier Legette
6. Adonai Mitchell
7. Troy Franklin
8. Ladd McConkey
(Smaller gap)
9. Xavier Worthy
10. Ricky Pearsall
11. Roman Wilson
I think Adonai Mitchell will answer the "how much does he want it" questions with a resounding 100% because I think he has shown himself to be an immensely clutch and high-character receiver. He scored the go ahead touchdown for Georgia in the 2021 natty and the 2022 semifinal against Ohio State alongside that insane body-bending catch for Texas against Washington to keep that game close. This dude turns it on when the lights are brightest. But then read his letter to Texas fans and Georgia fans that he wrote when he declared for the draft. He showed an immense appreciation for both universities and the people around him. I get that on the film he shows an inconsistent stamina and route tempo, but off the field he has so many quality intangibles that have me confident he'll continue to dedicate himself to refine his craft and polish the details of his game. Plus, you gotta remember that he missed basically a whole year of football missing the vast majority of the 2022 season, after a year where he was only a rotational player as a freshman. He's going to pick up on some of those details just by getting more snaps and experience at the NFL level
Then why he is so uninterested when he chooses???
Tape don’t lie. And teams will be cautious or completely turn off.
Too much talent elsewhere to risk a high pick.
1. Malik Nabers
2. Brian Thomas Jr.
3. Marvin Harrison Jr.
4. Rome Odunze
5. Ladd McConkey
6. Adonai Mitchell
7. Rickey Pearsall
8. Xavier Worthy
9. Malik Washington
10. Roman Wilson
11. Jermaine Burton
12. Troy Franklin
13. Xavier Leggette
14. Keon Coleman
15. Ja'lynn Polk
16. Luke McCaffrey
17. Malachi Corley
18. Jalen McMillan
19. Isaiah Williams
20. Brenden Rice
21. Drake Stoops
22. Lideatrick Griffin
23. Devontez Walker
24. Tahj Washington
25. Jha'Quan Jackson
26. Jamari Thrash
27. Jalen Croker
28. Javon Baker
29. Bub Means
30. Anthony Gould
31. Ainias Smith
32. Jacob Cowing
33. Jordan Whittington
34. Johnny Wilson
35. Xavier Weaver
36. Cornelius Johnson
37. Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint
38. Ryan Flournoy
39. Devaughn Vele
40. Tayvion Robinson
Cooked 💀💀💀💀
Malik Nabers, at least someone isn't scared lol
Appreciate the the list/work rice 🌾 too low though.
Clueless to have btj odunze abd laad over Adonai Mitchell
@@parkerkavulich1042wrong ad Mitch I s much better than odunze btj
Javon Baker is my favorite non top 10 (or hell 15 in this class) player at their position. I think he's plenty smooth, has ENOUGH speed, has good enough hands. 6'1 200 is not small, just not HUGE. But... His arm length, his hand size... That is top of the class compared to many. Between the tracking, the willingness to come back to the QB to get/be open, the perfect all rounder WR who just isn't TOP TIER athlete to be a number 1. Otherwise, I think he's got all the tools to be an impact number 3 day 1 and develop into a 2!
instead of in depth recapping the same top 5 guys for the "casuals" , could you add a link to the other podcasts that cover them in depth
Can you guys tell us where last years top 3 wideouts would be ranked among this group?
Great. Now I'm addicted to Keon Coleman videos!
Adonis Mitchell remind me of Randy moss play when they want but when do they unstoppable both bug great hands fast
Steve Smith Sr LOVES Coker, I believe in Smiths eye 4 talent
Do the mock draft “with people not in the draft world”.. would be very entertaining
Connor or Trevor.... Which traits for WR lead to the most successful NFL players? Can't use speed
Malik Washington is still super underrated. Much rather have him over Troy Franklin, who is one of the most overrated prospect in this draft, imo.
Does Diontae Johnson change who yall would pick for the panthers or would it still be one of the separators? And a fun comp that was on the bootleg pod was Worthy/Johnny Knox
Greatly appreciate the video and the rankings. However I came away with a feeling that this list was done more from the heart rather than the head. McMillion/Thrash are both extremely good tradecraft players. They would fit with any NFL and could start in week 1. But a players like Coleman/Corley have some good talent, but obviously need a lot of work to step it up to NFL level. I have one question, and I am serious with this, does the NFL value raw players that much more and hope that they can coach them up?
"Top 30". Fuck yes! I love you two!
I completely agree with the criticism of Worthy but imo Troy Franklin has the same problems (skinny, drop issues, can’t handle physicality, etc) so I’d have them both right next to each other
Lets gooo, hopefully IOL is up next. Can’t wait to hear about Barton, Beebe and Haynes
I don’t think your sleeping on Legette but man I feel like he could end being a Top 5 reciever out of this class
Also jalen mcmillan at 23 is insane. Hes a legitimate deep and intermediate threat
For context Johnny Wilson has better combine times and measurables than Keon Coleman. I hated Wilson during this process and moved him to TE but rewatching everyone I’m a lot higher on him than I was. I think he could be a move around weapon in an offense more than just being a WR or TE
His concentration drops, which are waaaaay too often, are going to give a coach a heart attack
1 Harrison, 2 Nabers, 3 Odunze, 4 Thomas, 5 Mitchell, 6 McConkey, 7 Polk, 8 Pearsall, 9 Coleman, 10 Legette, 11 Franklin, 12 Wilson, 13 Corley, 14 Walker, 15 Worthy
Last Thursday’s episode needs to be top 15 best Canadians in the draft lol
I want to see trade talks within the mocks
Top 30 WRs, you guys are sick FREAKS!
You guys are sleeping on Jalen Coker. That kid is amazing and the best work ethic I’ve seen. He can contribute in the league day one.
WR are being paid to get open, and catch the ball. Cowing will find a nice home somewhere in the league. Also love to see you staying strong on Johnny Wilson. He's a really fun to watch prospect.
My top 10 (right now):
1: Marvin Harrison Jr
2. Rome Odunze (my favorite player in the draft)
3. Malik Nabers (Fun Fact: according to Dane brugler, he is the nephew of former Chargers FB Gabe Nabers. Who is also one of Herbert’s best friends, former roommate, and together they were the Brisket Boys)
4. Brian Thomas Jr (dare i say closer to Nabers and Odunze tier than the next group of guys?
5. Ladd McConkey
6.Adonai Mitchell
7. Troy Franklin
8. Keon Coleman
9. Roman Wilson
10. Ricky Pearsall
Connor almost convinced me on Polk though
@Trevor Sikkema with the browns not picking until 54 overall I need 3 prospects you think will be there and the browns should draft based on current roster construction?!
It would be cool to know where players rank roughly on your big board or at least the round grade you have for them. Maybe not every player but groups of players. Like are players 20-25 Early day 3 picks? Love the content, though! Love being an addict
We will be doing a final big board episode the week of the draft!
Is Conner a Washington fan? He has Pennix and Polk so high!
As a team they were some of my favorite guys to talk to at the combine (Fautanu too) but I felt that way about their film before ever interviewing any of them (had Penix QB3 in our summer scouting episode). That program was pretty special this year. I don't have a 'favorite team' or rooting interests in college football
Anyone know what site they’re looking at when they find percentile numbers for size, speed etc. Brit here just getting into the draft
love how the player comps for 2 of the top 3 are playing together in chicago. just gotta add marv now
What are your thoughts on Hayden Hatten, currently listed as a UDFA but to me he looks like Randall Cobb.