@@senseibaka1 It must be YT problem. I noticed it recently in several videos from different authors, and some creators even tried to re-render and re-upload their videos several times, with no luck.
I think this keyboard is designed to survive coffee spills etc. the liquid drains to the bottom and out the drain holes provided in the bottom half of the case :)
i have a logitech keyboard as well that has a few drain holes. even some hp and asus laptops have holes that drain the water from them around the actual motherboard and sensitive components
water wouldn't kill a keyboard like this, I've washed several membrane keyboards, including a couple throwaways that I didn't even bother to take apart - they were all fine after drying out and never failed as long as I had them
Trapped moisture will annihilate a membrane keyboard though. Even high humidity eventually. All of the old IBM Model Ms had no drainage channels and the plates were riveted together. Almost no hope if you spilled a water into one of those, and that was the gold standard mechanical keyboard for about 15 years.
They actually have drain hole ports, most of the electronics are actually at the top of the keyboard near the battery, as long as that doesn't get wet you can rinse the keyboard (for drink and beer spills)
The whole lab gets flooded, and that can’t wipe the smile off Dave’s face, but for some reason I’m willing to bet he’s got some attachment to a modern, easily replaceable camera, if that’s what it turns out to be.
Most keyboards are made to be rinse-able these days, so that if you spill coke or coffee or what ever you can rinse them quickly under a tap. Certainly the one I have are, the Microsoft one I have once got half a bottle of flux spilt on it which I washed off and I am using it to type this.
Cleaning a Logitech keyboard has been common practice in my one-man business for many years. At low tide (~= few customers) I disassemble my older keyboards if needed and clean them. They seem to attract dust and grid. Using only dish washing soap (no colour or flavour, just Sodium Laureth Sulphate) and hot water on all plastic parts and using a dish washing brush, the unwanted stuff is removed. Then the soap is removed with tap water and the parts blow clean with compressed air (remember to use an oil separator between the compressor and the airgun). I let it all dry for some ours and then assemble the keyboard. It works only an number of times. Then the keys seems to start sticking in their guide...maybe due to age.... my keyboards usually last some 5 to 8 years :-). Regards from Denmark
Not all mechanical switches have to click. You can appreciate Cherry MX Red switches (preferably with rubber o-rings for additional sound dampening) without any clicking noises. If you need tactile feedback as well go for MX Brown, still no click. Reds are just pure travel, designed for least resistance and they are probably the most common because of gaming.
Most modern keyboard have these dishes in them and drain holes for "oopses". But since it flooded onto your keyboard and there was some water inside the wireless module might be kaput. Who knows, i'd let it dry out and put the batteries back in, if it works no harm done.
Logitech also made a washable keyboard, model K310. You can just dunk it into the sink to wash it. I think the biggest difference in the construction is that it has a bunch of drain holes in the bottom so it dries faster.
And the first of the "teardown of the flooding" begins! I bet that it also has holes to drain it out onto your desk. They know people spill drinks into these things all the time. (also my favorite keyboard is the K360)
Willyarma Don't. You'll learn their wacky layout and get worse at using standard keyboards. Also, doing delete when the user wants insert is outright destructive.
I've gone through at 100 K300's at work for my users. Their weak point is the sink screening, it rubs off after 6-13 months of regular use. Otherwise they're pretty solid, had maybe a dozen actually fail in some way. Most of the time I replace them because they've gotten gross for years of use. Its a decent cheap keyboard.
I have the wavy K350 and spilled a whole cup of milk on it. The way the key tray is made, none of the liquid actually made it past the top piece. Nice.
Yeah, I've torn down Logitech wireless keyboards before and the construction is very similar to this model, probably just with more polymer contact pad layers. It's surprising how little actual copper traces there are in there to possibly corrode.
You don't dip water flooded stuff just in IPA. First you dip it in distilled water to disolve all minerals and other crap that was carried by flood water. Then right away after you pull it out of distilled water, you dip it in IPA which will disolve the water. At the end you just leave it to dry in a dry and warm enviroment.
Helpful video. I tried it on my Logitech MK540 - I wanted to get crumbs out. I identified that there were additional screws under each of the three rubber footpads on the base of this model. I could still not fully open the keyboard - I thought there might be another screw under the main central label, which was difficult to remove, but I removed sufficient to convince myself that I could only feel the plastic moulding through the label and not another screw. CARE: it is an amazing rubbery membrane inside. On the MK540, especially watch for the bits under the media control buttons - if these bits are not in place when you pop the keyboard back together again, they will not work. WARNING!! Take care over the power button! Having checked that the membrane was in place under the media control buttons, I popped the keyboard back together again and found the power button loose and ineffective. I opened it all up again - I think I must have lost a connector bit from under the power button, but I could not find it anywhere. Having been unable to get the keyboard properly open, my access was limited. I would like to have found a way of making the power permanently connected, but after a few attempts of trying to wedge a bit of fuse wire into the switch, I gave up. Goodbye keyboard - I quite liked you, but you are never going to work again. :-(
Thanks , two screws were below the two rubber pads. After going through your comment, I succeeded to open very easily but before that it was just irritating. Thanks once again
I managed to freeze it on one of the glitches, seems to be previous frames getting in. I've seen this before with corrupt video headers. If it's repeatable, try changing the SD card and power supply to the camera.
my Logitech keyboard has holes for fluids to flow away without getting to the electronics inside. I have spilled beer two times on it and it still works fine.
You might like the Topre keyboards if you don't like the clicky mechanicals. Those are capacitive rubber domes, they're individual rubber domes with a spring underneath. Anything's better than these cheap rubber mat things.
We used to have a Logitech keyboard quite like that. We often just washed it in the sink, let it dry out a day and it was as new again. Very robust designs.
Looks much like my ancient DELL QuietKey keyboard which I had to do the same with last week after I tipped a bowl of noodles over it. It needed a good clean anyway. Funny to think that the piece of hardware that you hang onto the longest is the keyboard.
I've had a G15 flooded with nothing else but tea, plain old tea, and the conductive traces on the flexible pads corroded, literally dissolved in tea, with no power on. From that moment on, I stuck with $10 keyboards, they're far more reliable, I washed one in the shower as it is, no screw undone, dried it and worked perfectly fine after. Delux brand I think it was. That cool DELL knockoff with the protruding spacebar.
Ive taken many of these apart recently, coffee and water, what happens is under the rubber top sheet, there are two layers of acetate making up the two halves of the contact, water gets in between the layers (Capillary action) and is very hard to dry out, remove the two acetate layers (Carefully, they are "welded" together) and get in with a tissue and dry out the layers..... well, that's my two peneth worth anyway.....
you can use ipa in a mechanical keyboard but its not a good idea to use it in a membrane keyboard as the liquid gets between the layers and stays there and makes the keyboard do funny things like mistypes and double types
Dave, you could treat the water damage as an opportunity and have a new section “Flooded Friday” where you can take apart all the water damaged stuff. :-)
I was like you about the clicky keys.. BAAAH. But recently I got a microswitch keyboard and it actually is much nicer to type on than the old one. Mine isnt exactly clicky like the old time IBM keyboards but the action is much more well defined than my old logitech one. I guess it's a matter of taste though.
Alot membrane logitech keyboards I owned this far actually had drainholes in the top area and the key holes had ridges like on that keboard too. There are long oval holes on that keyboard aswell going through the whole keyboard. Might be designed to take some water in case someone spilled a drink on it.
I had this baby, or one much like it, for quite awhile back in the day. Loved the media keys which were a bit of a novelty in its time, hate the way it ate batteries.
keyboards are usually made to be waterproof to some degree....ive spilt pleanty on keyboards over the years and the liquid has never got inside...ive even seen keyboard with holes through them so if ya spill anything on the keys the liquid just goes straight through, this HP keyboard im using if i turn it on its back and shine a light through it...through holes all over the place!
Keys on the wrong place is the worst thing possible on a keyboard! It is one of the very few things that makes me so angry, that I wish keyboard designers a horrible death. Producing keyboards with misplaced keys is like producing cars with random changes like a steering wheel that has to be turned right for a left turn, or the positions of the brake pedal and accelerator changed. It completely breaks the expectations of the user. By the way: Lenovo fucked up the ThinkPad keyboard, that's when I stopped recommending them. I write this on a old X220, the last one with the original keyboard and I fear the day I have to get a new one.
Flooded my Corsair RGB Mechanical KB with a Diet Mt. Dew about 8 months ago...Took it apart, dried it out, swabbed it with Q-Tips and IPA and Bob's your Uncle...up and running again. Pretty bullet proof they are.
I'd tell you to try Topre since it's a best-of-both-world in that it's almost as noiseless as membranes but it's got much better tactile feedback because it uses thicker rubber and a spring (which also acts as a capacitive switch)... but I don't think you're anywhere near willing to drop 150, 200, 250 bucks on a keyboard :P (Mine's a Topre Type Heaven I got on sale 150$ CAD delivered... yeah, I know, "sale"... I like keyboards what can I say!) I love the "thocky" Topre tactile feedback but I miss buckling springs and I want to go back to that someday, maybe also try one of those Kailh clickbars...
If you like a soft touch and quiet operation like Dave, they a classic Keytronic LT or Designer. Amazing touch fr a membrane keyboard, varied weights, lifetime warranty. Bit hard to get these days.
Hope you get everything fixed. Lots of good videos to come, I'm sure. Most programmers agree with you. We hate loud keyboards. Clicky keyboards are no bueno when you're typing a lot. We put up with them in 1991 because we didn't know any better.
Even in the 90s we could get wonderful Keytronic and Honeywell keyboards, we adored them for their quiet and soft operation. Only time i managed to damage a keytronic was dropping the corner of a ~30" CRT on one, still worked fine, just one key was a bit wonkey. The mechanical clicky people seem to all be gamers. I think teh reason Keytronic went out of PC keyboards is you only need to buy one. They just dont break, and if by some miracle they do, they have a lifetime wty. Not a lot of profit in that.
@@mycosys gamers are a lot like those audiophile crowd: just boast about some intangible improvements, slap some RGBs on and sell it for some never heard of price tag.
Yep, water is not a friendly medium for electronics, we had our experience in 2013 with "Yolanda (Philippines)", but it was seawater..... it will destroy everything, rainwater can still be removed.... good luck, and your cam seems to have a little problem as well!
I prefer quiet keyboards as well. I don't understand the fasination with old noisy clicky keyboards such as the IBM model M and similar. They don't have a windows key or multimedia buttons. I don't like that logitech design though. The page up, page down, delete, home, end and insert keys are layed out wrong (should be 2 rows of 3) and the arrow keys are squashed in under the right CTRL/shift keys.
I like my MX blues because the click sounds nice and the tactile feedback is nice for typing without bottoming the keys. The auditable click is just because I like my mech switches to sound like a mech switch.
Simon Tay We like knowing for sure if the key was pressed or not. Plus the standard layout with all 106 keys in their standard locations. None of that crazy redefining some keys just to be different that too many keyboards do after Logitech opened the floodgates by making it too easy to hit delete.
If anyone ever wondered how to get the mouse that usually went with that keyboard apart without breaking it, here you go: ruclips.net/video/sUa9I7Md5SY/видео.html Of course that's for an older version, so not sure how helpful that is now. However I think there was more than one compact style Logitech mouse that comes apart that way, so that may still be useful for accessing and cleaning/repairing the internal parts.
I have some $8 HP keyboards like the ones it seems everyone has. One time I got drunk and knocked a pepsi into the keyboard. Then I tried taking it apart inebriated, but I broke a tab somewhere so I packed it in. At least it was a desktop.
Heyyyy, I use the exact same one both at home and work! I spilled acetone on mine at home though, I can’t say it turned out very well, but at least now it’s got paper permanently embedded in it if any other liquid should ever be spilled on it eh? xD
As Andrew spelled it, the brand name for the type spudger Dave used is iSesamo and they are excellent and survive considerable abuse despite how thin they are. It’s good to have at least a pair, though, so you can keep what is already opened open while continuing to release the rest of the latch points.
I recently spilt a drink over a Corsair keyboard. Even though it wasn't much and it was on the bottom corner it killed it. Corsair's support was absolutely useless, didn't even try to resolve the issue even when i offered to cover costs. STAY AWAY!
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video seems glitchy for some reason.
Is it only for me or did your editing pc get wet?
Not only you I got me an S9 and it's not my phone.
It's not just you, I think I developed a nervous twitch watching this video.
Glitchy too here.
If you play it frame by frame, you can see that it is actually a single frame being inserted every so often from a different clip.
@@senseibaka1 It must be YT problem. I noticed it recently in several videos from different authors, and some creators even tried to re-render and re-upload their videos several times, with no luck.
I think this keyboard is designed to survive coffee spills etc. the liquid drains to the bottom and out the drain holes provided in the bottom half of the case :)
Wow, there are holes in the bottom, didn't notice that!
i have a logitech keyboard as well that has a few drain holes. even some hp and asus laptops have holes that drain the water from them around the actual motherboard and sensitive components
That is the benefit of membrane keyboards... always a go-to for messy people.
@@gardenguy357 Thinkpad's have the holes too. Thankfully I've never tested mine out.
@@eideticex Indeed there are but as a go to for people to get.
It's not an Apple product, it has drain holes and is designed to survive spilling your coffee on it
And the back would be glued to the front.
i doubt it's waterfall-resistant, but seems to have survived quite well.
iPhones are water resistant.
@@SproutyPottedPlant sure they are
Chris Fairhall I own this keyboard and it's really pure shit. By not dying and surviving waterfalls, it tortures you even more.
water wouldn't kill a keyboard like this, I've washed several membrane keyboards, including a couple throwaways that I didn't even bother to take apart - they were all fine after drying out and never failed as long as I had them
Trapped moisture will annihilate a membrane keyboard though. Even high humidity eventually. All of the old IBM Model Ms had no drainage channels and the plates were riveted together. Almost no hope if you spilled a water into one of those, and that was the gold standard mechanical keyboard for about 15 years.
dang it i made the same pun word for word but 1 week too late. in my mind it was Bruce Willis saying it
It's probably not working because it's turned off 0:34
They actually have drain hole ports, most of the electronics are actually at the top of the keyboard near the battery, as long as that doesn't get wet you can rinse the keyboard (for drink and beer spills)
The video has some weird flashing - encoding issues?
yes i see that to
looks like its a single frame of the keyboard upside repating every five or so frames.
The whole lab gets flooded, and that can’t wipe the smile off Dave’s face, but for some reason I’m willing to bet he’s got some attachment to a modern, easily replaceable camera, if that’s what it turns out to be.
Most keyboards are made to be rinse-able these days, so that if you spill coke or coffee or what ever you can rinse them quickly under a tap. Certainly the one I have are, the Microsoft one I have once got half a bottle of flux spilt on it which I washed off and I am using it to type this.
Keyboard needs a sticker that says " I Survived the Flood of 2019"!
Cleaning a Logitech keyboard has been common practice in my one-man business for many years.
At low tide (~= few customers) I disassemble my older keyboards if needed and clean them.
They seem to attract dust and grid.
Using only dish washing soap (no colour or flavour, just Sodium Laureth Sulphate) and hot water on all plastic parts and using a dish washing brush, the unwanted stuff is removed. Then the soap is removed with tap water and the parts blow clean with compressed air (remember to use an oil separator between the compressor and the airgun).
I let it all dry for some ours and then assemble the keyboard.
It works only an number of times. Then the keys seems to start sticking in their guide...maybe due to age.... my keyboards usually last some 5 to 8 years :-).
Regards from Denmark
Not all mechanical switches have to click. You can appreciate Cherry MX Red switches (preferably with rubber o-rings for additional sound dampening) without any clicking noises. If you need tactile feedback as well go for MX Brown, still no click. Reds are just pure travel, designed for least resistance and they are probably the most common because of gaming.
Most modern keyboard have these dishes in them and drain holes for "oopses". But since it flooded onto your keyboard and there was some water inside the wireless module might be kaput. Who knows, i'd let it dry out and put the batteries back in, if it works no harm done.
Is it just me or did your camera get flooded too?
Rendering looks like your graphics card got a fair share of flooding as well :P
looks like it's youtube wide, been watching new uploads since a few hours ago and all of them have this glitchy video
Interesting. Thunderf00ts and some others were ok for me in the last few hours... Someone in the dev team is going to have a really bad day :D
If you added water to my keyboard environment it would have all the ingredients required to create new life forms hitherto unknown to science.
on point usage of hithertho. respect.
Yes, we all see the glitching video! No need to comment the same damn thing over and over.
Just give a thumbs up to the one that said it first.
Does your Video glitch as well?
;)
@@Glasrandkante lol
Logitech also made a washable keyboard, model K310. You can just dunk it into the sink to wash it. I think the biggest difference in the construction is that it has a bunch of drain holes in the bottom so it dries faster.
And the first of the "teardown of the flooding" begins!
I bet that it also has holes to drain it out onto your desk. They know people spill drinks into these things all the time. (also my favorite keyboard is the K360)
IPA. 'India Pale Ale', not sure pouring beer over everything will help at all.
I've got an electric air duster, its very powerful, great for drying things with as well as blowing dust away. You can find them on Amazon.
Why oh why do Logitech have to change the orientation of home end page up page down delete block? I'm typing on one now.
Willyarma Don't. You'll learn their wacky layout and get worse at using standard keyboards. Also, doing delete when the user wants insert is outright destructive.
I've gone through at 100 K300's at work for my users. Their weak point is the sink screening, it rubs off after 6-13 months of regular use. Otherwise they're pretty solid, had maybe a dozen actually fail in some way. Most of the time I replace them because they've gotten gross for years of use. Its a decent cheap keyboard.
I have the wavy K350 and spilled a whole cup of milk on it. The way the key tray is made, none of the liquid actually made it past the top piece. Nice.
I've always found a steel plate or housing is what gives a nice rigid keyboard. The plastic jobs tend to be rather flimsy.
Yeah, I've torn down Logitech wireless keyboards before and the construction is very similar to this model, probably just with more polymer contact pad layers. It's surprising how little actual copper traces there are in there to possibly corrode.
Whenever you make a video about anything related to PC, the know it all 'gamer' and PC 'enthusiast' folk pop out of no where. 😂
I believe the keyboard is made to be splashproof.
I was surprised you didn't mention the programming interface next to the battery compartment.
You don't dip water flooded stuff just in IPA.
First you dip it in distilled water to disolve all minerals and other crap that was carried by flood water.
Then right away after you pull it out of distilled water, you dip it in IPA which will disolve the water.
At the end you just leave it to dry in a dry and warm enviroment.
so do you have to tear down everything? Then dip all circuitry into dist. water then ipa?
Helpful video. I tried it on my Logitech MK540 - I wanted to get crumbs out. I identified that there were additional screws under each of the three rubber footpads on the base of this model. I could still not fully open the keyboard - I thought there might be another screw under the main central label, which was difficult to remove, but I removed sufficient to convince myself that I could only feel the plastic moulding through the label and not another screw.
CARE: it is an amazing rubbery membrane inside. On the MK540, especially watch for the bits under the media control buttons - if these bits are not in place when you pop the keyboard back together again, they will not work.
WARNING!! Take care over the power button! Having checked that the membrane was in place under the media control buttons, I popped the keyboard back together again and found the power button loose and ineffective. I opened it all up again - I think I must have lost a connector bit from under the power button, but I could not find it anywhere. Having been unable to get the keyboard properly open, my access was limited. I would like to have found a way of making the power permanently connected, but after a few attempts of trying to wedge a bit of fuse wire into the switch, I gave up. Goodbye keyboard - I quite liked you, but you are never going to work again. :-(
Thanks , two screws were below the two rubber pads. After going through your comment, I succeeded to open very easily but before that it was just irritating. Thanks once again
I managed to freeze it on one of the glitches, seems to be previous frames getting in. I've seen this before with corrupt video headers. If it's repeatable, try changing the SD card and power supply to the camera.
my Logitech keyboard has holes for fluids to flow away without getting to the electronics inside. I have spilled beer two times on it and it still works fine.
You might like the Topre keyboards if you don't like the clicky mechanicals. Those are capacitive rubber domes, they're individual rubber domes with a spring underneath. Anything's better than these cheap rubber mat things.
We used to have a Logitech keyboard quite like that. We often just washed it in the sink, let it dry out a day and it was as new again. Very robust designs.
You'd love that Banggood ES121 Open Source screwdriver.. (but then what would we do without your trademarked high-speed whistle?)
First of a thousand part series of “repairing bloody flooded gear”.
Looks much like my ancient DELL QuietKey keyboard which I had to do the same with last week after I tipped a bowl of noodles over it. It needed a good clean anyway. Funny to think that the piece of hardware that you hang onto the longest is the keyboard.
I've had a G15 flooded with nothing else but tea, plain old tea, and the conductive traces on the flexible pads corroded, literally dissolved in tea, with no power on. From that moment on, I stuck with $10 keyboards, they're far more reliable, I washed one in the shower as it is, no screw undone, dried it and worked perfectly fine after. Delux brand I think it was. That cool DELL knockoff with the protruding spacebar.
Haha! Yes! Turn this flood event into a series of "water damage repair" tutorials :D That's how you roll with the punches right there.
Dave's got content literally falling out of the sky! :P
Ive taken many of these apart recently, coffee and water, what happens is under the rubber top sheet, there are two layers of acetate making up the two halves of the contact, water gets in between the layers (Capillary action) and is very hard to dry out, remove the two acetate layers (Carefully, they are "welded" together) and get in with a tissue and dry out the layers..... well, that's my two peneth worth anyway.....
You accidentaly bought a spillsafe keyboard :)
Anyone noticed the traces or whatever at 4:30? Is this a PCB? Looks like the traces are crossing each other.
Actually, before anything else, where something gets wet. REMOVE THE POWER. This includes batteries. DC current is a real killer of copper traces.
As a home brewer, "dip everything in IPA" takes on a rather... bizarre meaning.
Some keyboards even seem to have holes on the buttom and seem to be designed to let Water out somewhere...
I just flooded mine. :D Simple to disassemble and dry. Had to wash the keys top part in soapy water.
you can use ipa in a mechanical keyboard but its not a good idea to use it in a membrane keyboard as the liquid gets between the layers and stays there and makes the keyboard do funny things like mistypes and double types
Dave, you could treat the water damage as an opportunity and have a new section “Flooded Friday” where you can take apart all the water damaged stuff. :-)
I was like you about the clicky keys.. BAAAH. But recently I got a microswitch keyboard and it actually is much nicer to type on than the old one. Mine isnt exactly clicky like the old time IBM keyboards but the action is much more well defined than my old logitech one. I guess it's a matter of taste though.
my unbelievable expensive G710+ seems to be extra keeping the water inside so it fails with fluids in it
You know that linear mechanical keyboards (cherry mx red, and black) exist, right? That are quiet and a lot smoother than membrane.
If he prefers this keyboard, let him be.
Alot membrane logitech keyboards I owned this far actually had drainholes in the top area and the key holes had ridges like on that keboard too. There are long oval holes on that keyboard aswell going through the whole keyboard. Might be designed to take some water in case someone spilled a drink on it.
I have the same keyboard from 6+ years i love it
I had this baby, or one much like it, for quite awhile back in the day. Loved the media keys which were a bit of a novelty in its time, hate the way it ate batteries.
was the battery experiment ok?
Re: the construction. I seem to be quite the opposite, myself - I need a proper stiffening before I can have a good screw.
MrJamesonStyles Not to mention all the water resistant lips.
I do have a mechanical keyboard but got one of these laying around so i dont have to reach around my steering wheel when im using it.
But does it still work?
keyboards are usually made to be waterproof to some degree....ive spilt pleanty on keyboards over the years and the liquid has never got inside...ive even seen keyboard with holes through them so if ya spill anything on the keys the liquid just goes straight through, this HP keyboard im using if i turn it on its back and shine a light through it...through holes all over the place!
I bet it still works fine?
_That's_ the keyboard you standardised on!? With all the keys in the wrong place. No thanks. The Lenovo Preferred Pro is what you standardise on.
Keys on the wrong place is the worst thing possible on a keyboard! It is one of the very few things that makes me so angry, that I wish keyboard designers a horrible death.
Producing keyboards with misplaced keys is like producing cars with random changes like a steering wheel that has to be turned right for a left turn, or the positions of the brake pedal and accelerator changed. It completely breaks the expectations of the user.
By the way: Lenovo fucked up the ThinkPad keyboard, that's when I stopped recommending them. I write this on a old X220, the last one with the original keyboard and I fear the day I have to get a new one.
Flooded my Corsair RGB Mechanical KB with a Diet Mt. Dew about 8 months ago...Took it apart, dried it out, swabbed it with Q-Tips and IPA and Bob's your Uncle...up and running again. Pretty bullet proof they are.
Dave’s Rubber Baby Buggy Bumper keyboard gets a bath.
I'd tell you to try Topre since it's a best-of-both-world in that it's almost as noiseless as membranes but it's got much better tactile feedback because it uses thicker rubber and a spring (which also acts as a capacitive switch)... but I don't think you're anywhere near willing to drop 150, 200, 250 bucks on a keyboard :P (Mine's a Topre Type Heaven I got on sale 150$ CAD delivered... yeah, I know, "sale"... I like keyboards what can I say!)
I love the "thocky" Topre tactile feedback but I miss buckling springs and I want to go back to that someday, maybe also try one of those Kailh clickbars...
If you like a soft touch and quiet operation like Dave, they a classic Keytronic LT or Designer. Amazing touch fr a membrane keyboard, varied weights, lifetime warranty. Bit hard to get these days.
Topre is the way to go. Feels great, sounds great but discreet, and very durable.
and so the eevflood series begins. stay positive dave =)
I can smell it through the screen.
I'm disappointed there wasn't at least one batteriser in there! Gosh, Dave. Don't you know the Batteriser will change the world... *snort*
Hope you get everything fixed. Lots of good videos to come, I'm sure. Most programmers agree with you. We hate loud keyboards. Clicky keyboards are no bueno when you're typing a lot. We put up with them in 1991 because we didn't know any better.
Even in the 90s we could get wonderful Keytronic and Honeywell keyboards, we adored them for their quiet and soft operation. Only time i managed to damage a keytronic was dropping the corner of a ~30" CRT on one, still worked fine, just one key was a bit wonkey. The mechanical clicky people seem to all be gamers.
I think teh reason Keytronic went out of PC keyboards is you only need to buy one. They just dont break, and if by some miracle they do, they have a lifetime wty. Not a lot of profit in that.
@@mycosys gamers are a lot like those audiophile crowd: just boast about some intangible improvements, slap some RGBs on and sell it for some never heard of price tag.
Yep, water is not a friendly medium for electronics, we had our experience in 2013 with "Yolanda (Philippines)", but it was seawater..... it will destroy everything, rainwater can still be removed.... good luck, and your cam seems to have a little problem as well!
Dave, did you learn about those spudgers from Big clive?
No. They have been around for a long time.
That keyboard is an abomination and a flood was sent to wipe it away. The layout alone is a crime against humanity.
Kindly make zebronics zeb transformer keyboard teardown video....
The great repair series begin!!!!!
Definitely not designed like a MacBook... It would have looked like a pool otherwise ;)
I prefer quiet keyboards as well. I don't understand the fasination with old noisy clicky keyboards such as the IBM model M and similar. They don't have a windows key or multimedia buttons. I don't like that logitech design though. The page up, page down, delete, home, end and insert keys are layed out wrong (should be 2 rows of 3) and the arrow keys are squashed in under the right CTRL/shift keys.
I like my MX blues because the click sounds nice and the tactile feedback is nice for typing without bottoming the keys. The auditable click is just because I like my mech switches to sound like a mech switch.
Quiet keyboard is one thing. But where do I get a quiet mouse?
Simon Tay We like knowing for sure if the key was pressed or not. Plus the standard layout with all 106 keys in their standard locations. None of that crazy redefining some keys just to be different that too many keyboards do after Logitech opened the floodgates by making it too easy to hit delete.
all the holes in the keyboard are for drainage so the lack of water isnt too suprising
i thought i read FOLDED... that what happen when i open youtube in early morning before any coffee... =)
I have 3 of those keyboards I love them so much. When one dies I have another to replace it with and then Ill have spare parts
Gotta be by design. You'd have to be pretty bloody lucky to accidentally design a keyboard that stands up to water ingress so well!
Put samples of that water in a petri dish and see what grows.
I used to take this model apart and wash the key assembly in my bathtub. Spilled coke on it once. Not fun.
If anyone ever wondered how to get the mouse that usually went with that keyboard apart without breaking it, here you go: ruclips.net/video/sUa9I7Md5SY/видео.html
Of course that's for an older version, so not sure how helpful that is now. However I think there was more than one compact style Logitech mouse that comes apart that way, so that may still be useful for accessing and cleaning/repairing the internal parts.
EEvblog flood 2019 we will rebuild!
They call it a waterproof keyboard for a reason
I'm not surprised, keyboards are designed to take cup fulls of water :P
Type of keys shouldn't matter, if you can stick to using a single model and become skilled with it.
I have some $8 HP keyboards like the ones it seems everyone has. One time I got drunk and knocked a pepsi into the keyboard. Then I tried taking it apart inebriated, but I broke a tab somewhere so I packed it in. At least it was a desktop.
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As long as no water gets in the membrane it's ok.
Chyrosran's revenge for using a rubberdome keyboard ;)
Halfway through the video and the damn thing ain't even open yet.
should be fine. I clean my keyboards in the dishwasher every month or so.
Regularly take my keyboard apart and run the top & keys under the sink tap.
the keyboard wasn't insane in the membrane
Heyyyy, I use the exact same one both at home and work! I spilled acetone on mine at home though, I can’t say it turned out very well, but at least now it’s got paper permanently embedded in it if any other liquid should ever be spilled on it eh? xD
Jesus! I thought I clicked on an AvE video and got freaked out when I heard the wrong voice... that's enough youtube for today.
it's Dave, not AvE.
Anyway, keep your duck in a vice.
How do you spell spugger?
Spudger
As Andrew spelled it, the brand name for the type spudger Dave used is iSesamo and they are excellent and survive considerable abuse despite how thin they are. It’s good to have at least a pair, though, so you can keep what is already opened open while continuing to release the rest of the latch points.
People that use click keyboards are the worst. The ones that complain about using membrane keyboards are even worse; if you could imagine that.
I recently spilt a drink over a Corsair keyboard. Even though it wasn't much and it was on the bottom corner it killed it.
Corsair's support was absolutely useless, didn't even try to resolve the issue even when i offered to cover costs. STAY AWAY!
The #EEVblog flood, somehow that sounds really juicy.