One thing I am starting to see is a lot of people entering this field do not have any street smarts. Most of the time I can spot some shady shit from a mile away and since growing and learning within this field, it has just enhanced it. Take your time people and learn the field with intent and not only for the money because the money will come if you are moving true in my humble opinion.
Having done IT in the military and currently transitioning to Cybersecurity. I can say that it's not easy at all and the amount of knowledge you need to pass the certifications exams are no joke. I feel this field has become the "flavor of the month" for content creators and while they are making money, they are misleading the masses. This video was definitely needed.
@@wolfknightlord it's ridiculous how they don't look out for us veteran at all. This has been a common issue with a lot of veterans entering the IT field specifically. Advice that was given to me was, keep working on certs and technical training while applying to non-IT jobs as well. Just to get in the door of that company and then when an IT position posts you'll have a higher chance of getting it b/c you're an internal hire. The name of the game right now is networking, over skills, unfortunately.
i dont know if you are near colorado but there's a group of army vets in colorado springs who transitioned into cyber. they've been helping each other out.
Cybersec student here! Anyone coming into this field for only the 💰🤑💸 won't last long plus you will be so frustrated, you need to take your time learning it bit by bit. Have fun while you're at it too!
Nah. I know plenty of folks that are in tech for the cash. And they are just fine. They are good at their job and dont entertain overly fluffy convos and I think most of them are focused on the job and money just not friends.
I have a lot of opinions about this. I think Cyber Security is one of the fields that requires a decent amount of knowledge about various disciplines within tech. You need to know how things work and how they break in order to protect systems, environments, apps etc. These are skills and experiences that you build over time. I think organizations and industries need to do a better job at building people up to meet their needs. With that being said. I also don't think it's reasonable to believe that all you need to do is get 2-3 certs and you'll automatically get a job in cyber security and start making bank from the go. If I am running a hospital, I am not hiring the guy that was working in retail last week but took a CPR class over the weekend and now wants to be a nurse. It takes time. Study. Work on labs. Do it because you enjoy it, because you constantly need to be learning. If you don't enjoy it and are doing it for the money, you're going to be miserable and stressed out all the time.
right and charge bogus ass prices to “train” or “help you obtain” a job in cybersecurity for info that’s on the net for free or only cost 10% or less of what they charge! Self study ppl or get your degree!
The truth is if you're not upkeeping your skills or branching into continuous learning, you will be left behind. Some roles may offer great pay, but you need to do a lot of upkeep during after-hours.
I was a security engineer with several high level certs and a high level security clerance. I made enough money to pay off my nice home in Monterey & retire. It's a stressful job, and you need to work hard and keep learning. In general cyber makes more than she admins and network guys, & work fewer hours. I did it for 20 years and worked overseas, as well as stateside.It's a good career, but it's not magic...it's a job.
I followed another tech girl recently and she said that she quit her cyber security job to make content full time ABOUT cyber security just because she didn't have enough time to do both 🤷🏿♂️
@@kekef3620 Tech with Lucy did the same thing. Quit job Solution Architect job at AWS to become full time content creator. More money with less stress, who would pass on that.
What’s crazy is how the course they sale are damn near 2-10k for a damn cert and some prep talk, let alone the contracts they bind on people, it’s absurd (lucky to have dodged a bullet)
A lot of Cybersecurity influencers are selling dreams...and courses lol. Im not mad at the hustle but I wish they would be honest.. especially the black influencers who know the challenges we face as a people.
As someone trying to break into tech , from day one I see all these con men trying to sell people a dream . There’s a lot of content creators who are grifters. This podcast was one of the first set of content I saw where I know dude is giving you real world advice and not selling you a dream . How I know ? Because nothing he says sounds sweet ! He always say you need to put in work and it doesn’t happen overnight. All those other 6 months and I’ll get you a 6 figure job is bullshit especially in today’s economy . PEOPLE LEARN TO EVALUATE YOURSELF AND WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY ! Nothing worth having comes easy .
Thanks for making this video I've been in tech for over 20 years focusing on datacenter and cloud engineering. My currect role is a technical manager most of my reports make over 6 figures they've all been in the industry 15 plus years there is no short cut.
I didn't get the idea that as a cyber security proffesional you will be riding around like Paris Hilton. But I did get the idea that I won't be living paycheck to paycheck, I'll be able to afford my kids private school more comfortably, I could take the fam out on a nice vacation once a year, and be able to fix the cars as needed, fix my HVAC unit, etc. that's what I want really. Love the channel tho!
@@TechTualChatter True BUT like he said your not going to make a billion starting out. I'm a developer, I think my point is we don't always look at this stuff from the view of the company. They are not trying to handout big bucks to anybody.
@@TechTualChatter Facts, I just interviewed for a FedRAMP SME role paying 183k 😩 I didn’t get the job and honestly that’s probably a good thing but there’s definitely companies out there that’ll pay for the right skills.
I seriously feel like, if your one of thoese naive people, who think all you need is a theory based Sec plus, and think your going to make 6 figures without any hands on skills. You don't deserve to be considered in this field lol
I know this video is on the topic of getting into Cybersecurity making a bag quickly and being sold dreams by influencers, but the same thing is happening in the Project Management sector. Most people see that you hit 3 six figures in project management but fail to see that you have to start from the bottom to get there. You cannot just pivot into a career with no experience and think that you're going to get a big bag. It takes work, dedication, strategic planning and some experience, to get there.
Cyber security is a beautiful art. But it’s something I believe is already in you. To be analytical and non bias or in a perpetual state of unbothered understanding that there is a solution you just haven not found it yet, or have not asked the right question. It’s a process, and you have to be up for the journey.
I'm sure they are they doing better than me. I hardly have any money and I'm stressed out with no job right now. I work in animation and game industry.
🤣 I wouldn’t say that I’ll just say people are unrealistic with their outcomes thinking that can be come a specialist in that short amount of time through that program
@@TechTualChatter lol 😂. Hey I'm just in college for cyber security. So I don't know much. But I do know that having real life skills matters. And I'm not expecting to make 6 figures. You gotta stay realistic. All he says is learn splunk and your a millionaire lol
@@TechTualChatter Honestly I'm trying to understand with all of this effort to get into CS how about folks put the focus on starting a small business and go from there. Same effort and no more slaving for a check. My wife and I started a small business on a whim a few years back and made $150k a year in profits with only RUclips and Google to guide us.
Wow.... Just like with Gig work there seems to been desenting sides in Cyber or Tech. Look the best thing for folks to do is pick a field, and learn the fundamentals.
hes telling the truth. got my first job in cyber last year, started at 60k. 6 months i got a bump, went to 72k. Now Im at 90k after a year lol. I'm fully expecting 6 figured by dec though.
What exactly are some of your daily taskings in CS? This would tell the folks a ton about how your advancing as fast as you are because no one is handing out promotions for the simple work in CS. A $30k increase in salary over 12 months means you are exceptional at performing CS work.
Who says that a job can make you rich anyway? You work to gain skills and experience, and then you establish your own services based on the skills that you have acquired.
@TechTualChatter yes I did. As a cybersecurity enthusiast myself, my goal was never about financial gains. It may be a small part but definitely not the main part. However, i understand what you mean.
What he said actually applies for most career jobs, you either work up to be the boss or you put up to be the boss. Skills pay, but for those that start are beginners so of course you're not on jets and living in 16,000$ sky apartments.
16k a month for an apartment? who in their right mind wold want to live in a box? get a house with acreage in a rural area and invest the rest. when they do the next lockdowns or when shit hits the fan you'll be glad youll be away forms he cities. couldn't pay me a million to live in an apartment. I need my open space.
It annoys me that people are making the cybersecurity field part of rich, quick schemes As a JavaScript Python programmer with networking pen-testing and Soc analyst and Linux skills, I don't understand what's so easy about this field 😏
1. First off because of inflation 100k is really 50k. 2. Know the difference between certification and certificate 3. Know the difference between vendor cert and non vendor cert 4. Always work two gigs
@@iAMDREi22 Always a stepping stones. I actually work 3 gigs and i look at those jobs as my clients. The goal is to double the pay and cut the work load...Yes i own stocks/crypto and i have rental property...And i left the states years ago for south africa so i dont have your cost of living...and im a resident of tax free state....When your gigs are paying you 140k a year...then that makes the convo about working multiple gigs different.
I was just about to buy a cyber security bundle from Symone Beez tonight for $500 when i just so happened to see you guys channel pop up now i feel it’s the universe trying to protect my pockets 💪😅
I have a background in tech and enjoyed it. Very surface level but I loved every bit, going to school for it now because I want to help our vulnerable elders keep their digital assets safe and also IT is fun and very interesting. It mimics the human body.
Why Do They Sound So Hurt and Defeated. Get Your Certifications in Your Area of Cyber, Get a Degree in Cyber, Get Experience, even if you have to do it own your own with yourtube, Get your own Company and Offer Services............. Lastly Stay away from Defeated Talk like this at all cost..... You will live a life of Abundance and long as you dont have a broke partner, un-nessary bills or a lot of kids
The guy who is in the video is 100 percent correct, but he still is leaving out an entire 3/4 of the work that is required to make it in Cyber Security. Cyber Security is a subset of Information Technology. If you wanted a role in Cyber Security that pays a lot , then you should expect to be Technical. I think people are going for this b.s. because they think it is easy money for high quality of life/income.
I’ve been in tech 9 years and and have a sec+ I want to get into security but the security jobs never get back to me so now I’m going for a degree in cyber at my local cc
The exact reason I purchase any Cisco certification books from Amazon and will lock myself down and read the books cover to cover. This was how I passed my Ccna exam in August before the new new exam. You’re going to have to buy the books and read them to pass any of these exams. To help woman’s point in this video I’am a realtor and I promise you , you can not pass the in class test to go take the actual Real Estate exam if you do not read the Real Estate manual. You got to read people..
Cyber security achi field he.. But politics kafi jyada he Tier 1 se ho to easy to get the job in this domain and package is also high. Otherwise you will struggle alot... Cybersecurity ke jobs dikhte bhi nhi he
I think its crazy people have that expectation tbh... Just looking at job postings will tell you that its not going to be chamgane dinners and silk suits.
I honestly want to get into this field because tech has always interest me. I also have 10 years in the military, I’d like to get back into the government sector to complete my 20.
Hello, allurevibe, I'm a USAF Veteran. Honestly, you don't transfer your military years into Federal Government Civil Service employment, or Federal Government Contractor employment. The military and Federal Government are two separate things. You start over as a Civilian but have your prior military work experience to use and explain towards future Civilian employment opportunities.
Its common sense that if you start in a new industry you start at entey level, so your vid seems to be more discouraging than honest. Goals mean you start at level one and your goal is level ten in between is time and learning experiencing. Follow your heart and what brings you joy, don't chase the bag. Seek ye first the kingdom of God...
Yeah these people grew up in the house. No streets smarts what so ever. I’ve just gotten into this field @ 44 after selling dope for most of my life and I’m sure I’ll be doing this till I retire. These people are simply trying to stifle people because of their own fears that the market will become over saturated. Valid argument but they realize they’ll have to compete with candidates that they probably can’t beat. Namely people who have streets smarts that can navigate through anything when determined. lol they’re lil slick comments gone stop when you got people that will smack fire 🔥 outta them in the work place… 😂 I’m coming and I’m teaching and bringing the hood with me…….
@@philliesization lol naw I help people get into the industries so I’m not worried about new people. Now the people I work with might because most of them really are trash and are only in the industry because they were there at the right time 😂😂
@@TechTualChatter I was partly being funny towards the end. But as with all fields the concern of over saturation can be real, the longer it exists. For instance; the training school im admitted to has a description that discourages African Americans from choosing that elective. I mean it literally says “African Americans don’t do well when it comes to testing & almost never pass”. I chose it simply because of that..
I have a grad certificate in cyber security policy (2014) and noticed real quick that workers 45 YO or older have a hard time moving into the industry. At that time they were mainly looking of the tech side and younger workers. So I stopped trying to get cyber security jobs.
This is common sense and you have to build your skills and portfolio over years! Maybe you get lucky or maybe you don’t! Either way it’s about the passion for the field!
The video from the content creator telling the truth about tech salary can be said about Salesforce. I work for SF and I see this everyday on LinkedIn, Reddit, youtube. You can literally search what salesforce certs pay the highest and find thousands of videos, subreddits, etc. People think they can get a cert and automatically walk into a 6+ figure salary. People sell courses on "how to pass exam and get a six figure SF job" It happens, but the real money comes from marketing yourself, networking, going to SF events like DreamForce, starting your own consultancy, etc.
Thank you for this honest content, Im about to make the transition and this is a new perspective from all the content that is out there. Thank You Ngiyabonga
To all my CS professionals out there, how valuable is Python and what other languages should I learn to add value to my expertise in cybersecurity? My cousin was explaining how her friend has 15 years experience and can’t find a job right now. Despite submitting over 400 applications… It was a wake up conversation because her friend doesn’t use Python and I’m thinking that’s the issue… or am I wrong entirely and the market for jobs is just that horrible? Can an insider please elaborate for me?
Depends upon the domain, that person is singing for! They need to investigate thoroughly if programming is necessary. shallow applications will not see the light of the day. Not an insider.
That’s not the problem. I don’t think most of us came in this looking to make a lot of money from the start. The way they marketed was as if it was in demand, you go to school and you’ll be able to get in the field with no problem. And this info was coming from actual cybersecurity professionals, so the way that this field was marketed was an entire lie. I’ve been trying to break in since 2017 and it’s been a dead in so I just switched my Masters to Information Technology since it’s more broad
I’m definitely not doing anything wrong. I have networked, been to conferences, etc., I’m not the only person who has had trouble with getting their foot in the doir
Truth is I have 2 MSc degrees in Cybersecurity. I also have the CISSP, CEH, PMP, PSM2, Sec+, AWS SA, ITIL4, & SSBB certs. The problem is I don't have work experience for the jobs I'm qualified for. Also I'm over qualified for jobs I've applied for. Last week I had a hiring manager reject me because she said she knew they wouldn't be able to keep me because of my credentials.
1. Only put the certifications that's relevant to the job you're pursuing. 2. Research the interview process of the comapny and the profile of the person doing the interview 3. If you've touched the technology to some degree, you'll just have to learn to speak the languauge. 4. Don't be afraid to leverage contract positions 5.If you're at a job for 6 months, you'll pick up additional skills and keep movng from there. 6. Expect to get downsized multiple times in your IT journey so save your money 7. Keep Learning and learn to play the game Hope some of this helps
Unless you’re an entrepreneur that finds a niche; you will not make 6 figures coming in. Most established industries and corporate structures; leadership tend to be 45+ and many years of experience in different sectors of IT.
@@TechTualChatter there’s exceptions for sure; but some influencers paint the picture of guarantee. If you have in depth knowledge of a certain field; that can definitely work in your favor for sure!
Well he let his CISSP expire so it shows you his money maker is selling you the promise. Kinda like the Amazon Dropping trend where everyone was trying to sell a course.
I’m in his program and I’ll say this. While I’ve definitely learned a ton and met amazing people, it’s definitely not a “90 days then you get a job” kind of thing. Henry is absolutely correct. You need to be seasoned somewhat to get faster results but if you are not seasoned in this space, it’ll take considerable time to really make the career transition, about 9 months to a year. It’s best to go to free local cyber networking events to understand the unique tech needs in your local town. Google cyber chapters: ISSA “your city”, ISACA “your city”, CSA “your city”, OWASP “ your city, ISC2 “your city” etc. and link up and simply tell people you’re starting to want to learn more about the cyber space ie GRC, IS Auditing etc. Plenty of chapter leaders will point you directly where to find very valuable resources that are much much cheaper and affordable. It’s what turned things around for my learning, personally. Just wish I went down that route first…I would’ve saved thousands and thousands of dollars. Especially in this economy…it’s a much better move than paying for random “false promise” online programs.
@@AnthonyGee-pn5wf Interesting, thanks for the info! And yeah, when I start seeing them all over YT ads and FB ads promoting it says a lot about where the $$$ really comes from. Everyone is just "One Funnel Away", Lol!!
I took Boyd's PCI program. I'm telling you now, save your money. That whole thing was just a very well devised scam in my opinion. I very quickly realized he was making his money off sales from getting ppl to sign up for this $15k program vs being the face of PCI as he tries to portray. Do you wanna know what you get for $15k?? Told to believe in yourself ("Authority Mindset") .. and industry information you can get off the PCI website for FREE. I can't speak for anyone else but it's definitely FUCK BOYD CLEWIS for me. Matter of fact, I remember one zoom call session where there was another classmate that was frustrated and looking for answers about something and one of boyd's associates (ON THE CALL) told him to "stop bitching" or "being a bitch" about it. That was when I REALLY detached from the program for real. I do not fuck with them and it's up if I ever run into his ass.
@@TechTualChatter you need some networking. Ethical hacker doesnt doesnt understand IP addressing, firewall polices and functionality, DNS,NAT ...seriously?
Watch the full episode here:
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bad content..
@@21genhackers yet you have no content 🤫
@@TechTualChatter you'll see🤫
One thing I am starting to see is a lot of people entering this field do not have any street smarts. Most of the time I can spot some shady shit from a mile away and since growing and learning within this field, it has just enhanced it. Take your time people and learn the field with intent and not only for the money because the money will come if you are moving true in my humble opinion.
It’s a microwave society. They want it all right now
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@@TechTualChatter Then they gone get exactly what they deserve playing in this lol
Prisoners of the moment
@@garylperkinsiii5140 You are not lying, gotta play the long game
Having done IT in the military and currently transitioning to Cybersecurity. I can say that it's not easy at all and the amount of knowledge you need to pass the certifications exams are no joke. I feel this field has become the "flavor of the month" for content creators and while they are making money, they are misleading the masses. This video was definitely needed.
Bro I got into it and can't find a job with it with a military background. Smh. I study for that Sec+ for nothing
@@wolfknightlord it's ridiculous how they don't look out for us veteran at all. This has been a common issue with a lot of veterans entering the IT field specifically. Advice that was given to me was, keep working on certs and technical training while applying to non-IT jobs as well. Just to get in the door of that company and then when an IT position posts you'll have a higher chance of getting it b/c you're an internal hire. The name of the game right now is networking, over skills, unfortunately.
@@randomness8455 yea bro I'm done with the games. I got my VA I'm leaving the country.
@@wolfknightlord best decision ever
i dont know if you are near colorado but there's a group of army vets in colorado springs who transitioned into cyber. they've been helping each other out.
Honestly this goes for the whole IT industry. Very few ppl in IT are making 200k in their mid-late 20s
The people were discussing would make more than that
@@TechTualChatterI was making that in my late 20s but I was working two gigs
Cybersec student here! Anyone coming into this field for only the 💰🤑💸 won't last long plus you will be so frustrated, you need to take your time learning it bit by bit. Have fun while you're at it too!
I see what you did there!! 😂😂
Yeah, don't byte off more than you can chew.
Nah. I know plenty of folks that are in tech for the cash. And they are just fine. They are good at their job and dont entertain overly fluffy convos and I think most of them are focused on the job and money just not friends.
Exactly well said 👍🙏
Money pay the bills you think I’m doing this shit for free
Thank you! I’m tired of those videos glamorizing money meanwhile most people don’t make that and sometimes these influencers don’t even be TECHNICAL.
I have a lot of opinions about this. I think Cyber Security is one of the fields that requires a decent amount of knowledge about various disciplines within tech. You need to know how things work and how they break in order to protect systems, environments, apps etc. These are skills and experiences that you build over time. I think organizations and industries need to do a better job at building people up to meet their needs.
With that being said. I also don't think it's reasonable to believe that all you need to do is get 2-3 certs and you'll automatically get a job in cyber security and start making bank from the go. If I am running a hospital, I am not hiring the guy that was working in retail last week but took a CPR class over the weekend and now wants to be a nurse.
It takes time. Study. Work on labs. Do it because you enjoy it, because you constantly need to be learning. If you don't enjoy it and are doing it for the money, you're going to be miserable and stressed out all the time.
Well we just found out the CISO of United healthcare got that job without ever having a cybersecurity job ever 🤣🤣🤣
@@TechTualChatterWHAT!!!!?? 😂😅
@@TechTualChatter that's very scary.
Y'all should do reaction videos to the videos that do things like promising 6 figures in cybersecurity on the 6 months.
If yall send em our way we will definitely check em oht
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm dead!
LOL this is a good idea..
A lot of tech influencers will lie to make money off of people’s hopes of a better life.
Tis true
Not only influencers, even trainers and training companies...
right and charge bogus ass prices to “train” or “help you obtain” a job in cybersecurity for info that’s on the net for free or only cost 10% or less of what they charge! Self study ppl or get your degree!
Business & Marketing Tactics Brother Whole lot of Matrix
The truth is if you're not upkeeping your skills or branching into continuous learning, you will be left behind. Some roles may offer great pay, but you need to do a lot of upkeep during after-hours.
I was a security engineer with several high level certs and a high level security clerance. I made enough money to pay off my nice home in Monterey & retire. It's a stressful job, and you need to work hard and keep learning. In general cyber makes more than she admins and network guys, & work fewer hours. I did it for 20 years and worked overseas, as well as stateside.It's a good career, but it's not magic...it's a job.
Would you advise anyone to enter cyber ?
I followed another tech girl recently and she said that she quit her cyber security job to make content full time ABOUT cyber security just because she didn't have enough time to do both 🤷🏿♂️
I know exactly who you're talking about. Really makes you wonder.
Empress something?
@@thewordsmith5440 no Sandra Liu
@@kekef3620 Tech with Lucy did the same thing. Quit job Solution Architect job at AWS to become full time content creator. More money with less stress, who would pass on that.
With Sandra?? 😂
What’s crazy is how the course they sale are damn near 2-10k for a damn cert and some prep talk, let alone the contracts they bind on people, it’s absurd (lucky to have dodged a bullet)
Yeah I’ve been seeing people wanting to charge thousands to get security+ 😂😂
A lot of Cybersecurity influencers are selling dreams...and courses lol. Im not mad at the hustle but I wish they would be honest.. especially the black influencers who know the challenges we face as a people.
Everything is about race with you people it is ridiculous you are the true racists
As someone trying to break into tech , from day one I see all these con men trying to sell people a dream . There’s a lot of content creators who are grifters. This podcast was one of the first set of content I saw where I know dude is giving you real world advice and not selling you a dream . How I know ? Because nothing he says sounds sweet ! He always say you need to put in work and it doesn’t happen overnight. All those other 6 months and I’ll get you a 6 figure job is bullshit especially in today’s economy . PEOPLE LEARN TO EVALUATE YOURSELF AND WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY ! Nothing worth having comes easy .
Cyber salary transparency, thank you! Everyone needs to see this video! Like Katt said "2024 the year of Turth"
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Thanks for making this video I've been in tech for over 20 years focusing on datacenter and cloud engineering. My currect role is a technical manager most of my reports make over 6 figures they've all been in the industry 15 plus years there is no short cut.
I didn't get the idea that as a cyber security proffesional you will be riding around like Paris Hilton. But I did get the idea that I won't be living paycheck to paycheck, I'll be able to afford my kids private school more comfortably, I could take the fam out on a nice vacation once a year, and be able to fix the cars as needed, fix my HVAC unit, etc. that's what I want really. Love the channel tho!
@@Missesfixit very realistic expectations!
I think people forget these are all companies. These compaies ARE NOT trying to pay anybody good money.
That’s not true
There are companies that pay people with the right skills great money
@@TechTualChatter True BUT like he said your not going to make a billion starting out. I'm a developer, I think my point is we don't always look at this stuff from the view of the company. They are not trying to handout big bucks to anybody.
@@TechTualChatter Facts, I just interviewed for a FedRAMP SME role paying 183k 😩 I didn’t get the job and honestly that’s probably a good thing but there’s definitely companies out there that’ll pay for the right skills.
I seriously feel like, if your one of thoese naive people, who think all you need is a theory based Sec plus, and think your going to make 6 figures without any hands on skills. You don't deserve to be considered in this field lol
I know this video is on the topic of getting into Cybersecurity making a bag quickly and being sold dreams by influencers, but the same thing is happening in the Project Management sector. Most people see that you hit 3 six figures in project management but fail to see that you have to start from the bottom to get there. You cannot just pivot into a career with no experience and think that you're going to get a big bag. It takes work, dedication, strategic planning and some experience, to get there.
Cyber security is a beautiful art. But it’s something I believe is already in you. To be analytical and non bias or in a perpetual state of unbothered understanding that there is a solution you just haven not found it yet, or have not asked the right question. It’s a process, and you have to be up for the journey.
I agree but disagree
Some people fall in love with it when they learn about what it is
I'm sure they are they doing better than me. I hardly have any money and I'm stressed out with no job right now. I work in animation and game industry.
Boyd cluless lol or clewess. Hes a huge scammer lol
🤣 I wouldn’t say that I’ll just say people are unrealistic with their outcomes thinking that can be come a specialist in that short amount of time through that program
@@TechTualChatter lol 😂. Hey I'm just in college for cyber security. So I don't know much. But I do know that having real life skills matters. And I'm not expecting to make 6 figures. You gotta stay realistic. All he says is learn splunk and your a millionaire lol
Great breakdown, ppl just lacking so much common sense it stems from ignorance n desperation imo
Yeah it’s hard out here so i definitely understand the why for people to want to get in
@@TechTualChatter it’s v hard out there, bro but ppl still need to use their spider senses more!😉
@@Christiannotdior agreed
@@TechTualChatter Honestly I'm trying to understand with all of this effort to get into CS how about folks put the focus on starting a small business and go from there. Same effort and no more slaving for a check. My wife and I started a small business on a whim a few years back and made $150k a year in profits with only RUclips and Google to guide us.
Wow.... Just like with Gig work there seems to been desenting sides in Cyber or Tech. Look the best thing for folks to do is pick a field, and learn the fundamentals.
hes telling the truth. got my first job in cyber last year, started at 60k. 6 months i got a bump, went to 72k. Now Im at 90k after a year lol. I'm fully expecting 6 figured by dec though.
What exactly do you do? I’m looking into this space
I’m also curious 👀
What exactly are some of your daily taskings in CS? This would tell the folks a ton about how your advancing as fast as you are because no one is handing out promotions for the simple work in CS. A $30k increase in salary over 12 months means you are exceptional at performing CS work.
@iAMDREi22 actually it doesn’t. It can just job hop and get that amount
@@TechTualChatter That's not what he was insinuating when he stated BUMP in pay which would tyically mean a raise.
Who says that a job can make you rich anyway?
You work to gain skills and experience, and then you establish your own services based on the skills that you have acquired.
Have you not seen have some of this has been advertised?
@TechTualChatter yes I did. As a cybersecurity enthusiast myself, my goal was never about financial gains. It may be a small part but definitely not the main part. However, i understand what you mean.
What he said actually applies for most career jobs, you either work up to be the boss or you put up to be the boss. Skills pay, but for those that start are beginners so of course you're not on jets and living in 16,000$ sky apartments.
16k a month for an apartment? who in their right mind wold want to live in a box? get a house with acreage in a rural area and invest the rest. when they do the next lockdowns or when shit hits the fan you'll be glad youll be away forms he cities. couldn't pay me a million to live in an apartment. I need my open space.
It annoys me that people are making the cybersecurity field part of rich, quick schemes
As a JavaScript Python programmer with networking pen-testing and Soc analyst and Linux skills, I don't understand what's so easy about this field 😏
@@nostalgicnow6001 let them tell a couple of certs and you’re hited
You got it hard by being in pen testing. It's tough compared to other domains of Cyber security.
1. First off because of inflation 100k is really 50k.
2. Know the difference between certification and certificate
3. Know the difference between vendor cert and non vendor cert
4. Always work two gigs
You need to get out of that old mindset and stop working mutiple jobs, but start generating passive income so you don't have to work multiple jobs.
@@iAMDREi22 Always a stepping stones. I actually work 3 gigs and i look at those jobs as my clients. The goal is to double the pay and cut the work load...Yes i own stocks/crypto and i have rental property...And i left the states years ago for south africa so i dont have your cost of living...and im a resident of tax free state....When your gigs are paying you 140k a year...then that makes the convo about working multiple gigs different.
@@tchrisbass5650 OK have fun with that.
Don't do it for the money only, do it because you also love it, which is important too.
A.I. will replace cyber security firms.
The content is not on the facts or the emerging truths $ if cyber security doesn’t unionize $ ?
Lol
lol.. AI makes it easier to deploy attacks. cyber will only grow, but it’ll require higher skill set.
it wont.
No sir, 🤣 bad take
I was just about to buy a cyber security bundle from Symone Beez tonight for $500 when i just so happened to see you guys channel pop up now i feel it’s the universe trying to protect my pockets 💪😅
Idk what’s in her curriculum but I’ve heard some good things about it
as a current student in csm&p thank you for keeping in real
That’s how we do it over here 💪🏽
I’m looking to get in and land a 80k annual job within 2y with a security+ network+ and ccna is that possible if not what other certs should I look at
You should be looking into roles that require those skills and research what they pay to answer this question
People just want to hear about salaries and that's why content creators are just milking it.. Giving false hopes... good video!
I have a background in tech and enjoyed it. Very surface level but I loved every bit, going to school for it now because I want to help our vulnerable elders keep their digital assets safe and also IT is fun and very interesting. It mimics the human body.
Look up the jobs for yourself. With certain certifications you 100% can find entry level roles paying 60k+
Why Do They Sound So Hurt and Defeated. Get Your Certifications in Your Area of Cyber, Get a Degree in Cyber, Get Experience, even if you have to do it own your own with yourtube, Get your own Company and Offer Services............. Lastly Stay away from Defeated Talk like this at all cost..... You will live a life of Abundance and long as you dont have a broke partner, un-nessary bills or a lot of kids
@@stretch4893 who???
The guy who is in the video is 100 percent correct, but he still is leaving out an entire 3/4 of the work that is required to make it in Cyber Security. Cyber Security is a subset of Information Technology. If you wanted a role in Cyber Security that pays a lot , then you should expect to be Technical. I think people are going for this b.s. because they think it is easy money for high quality of life/income.
I’ve been in tech 9 years and and have a sec+ I want to get into security but the security jobs never get back to me so now I’m going for a degree in cyber at my local cc
@@rasstylediary2402 it’s possible that your resume doesn’t reflect the skills needed for the roles you’re applying yoo
The exact reason I purchase any Cisco certification books from Amazon and will lock myself down and read the books cover to cover. This was how I passed my Ccna exam in August before the new new exam. You’re going to have to buy the books and read them to pass any of these exams. To help woman’s point in this video I’am a realtor and I promise you , you can not pass the in class test to go take the actual Real Estate exam if you do not read the Real Estate manual. You got to read people..
Damn , now I don't want to pursue cybersec again
Just don’t take any glaring shortcuts and you will be fine
That’s the problem everybody living in this fairy tale upper middle class is amazing no matter what
What’s the income threshold for that
Cyber security achi field he..
But politics kafi jyada he
Tier 1 se ho to easy to get the job in this domain and package is also high.
Otherwise you will struggle alot...
Cybersecurity ke jobs dikhte bhi nhi he
Too bad I'm not in it for the money lmaoo
I think its crazy people have that expectation tbh... Just looking at job postings will tell you that its not going to be chamgane dinners and silk suits.
Upper middle class ? Dude that’s all I care about lmfaoooo. I ain’t expecting to get rich from cybersecurity but that’s all I need😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Azami0001 you would be surprised
I don't use tick tick, but it's funny that's what is being advertised 😆🤦🏾♂️
lol fr hahahaha
I honestly want to get into this field because tech has always interest me. I also have 10 years in the military, I’d like to get back into the government sector to complete my 20.
I made this playlist just for people like you
ruclips.net/p/PLx70gNuaEAlBcdEue8Fa1JR9miKfZZE72&si=tlbLvTJJBoVVU9KK
Information Technology is much more difficult than most think. Getting started is ok but staying in the field is another thing.
Hello, allurevibe,
I'm a USAF Veteran. Honestly, you don't transfer your military years into Federal Government Civil Service employment, or Federal Government Contractor employment. The military and Federal Government are two separate things.
You start over as a Civilian but have your prior military work experience to use and explain towards future Civilian employment opportunities.
@@blackamericanlesbianprofes4357 oh wow I was completely unaware of this. Thank you for the information on this!
Can I break in cyber security with a decent salary while I pursue a degree?
Get into GRC. End of story!!
Lol
Not a single job or realistic salary was discussed here....the title is misleading
@@et9120 lol not really people who follow the show know realistic numbers..
In school for cyber security at Devry any advice got a few certs now
Projects and networking
Switch uni. Devry is useless
No shade. For profit university ain't it. Get to a state school, stay the course.
Learn Everything and Lab Everyday!
do not go to devry. your local community college would be way better.
thank you for being honest, i really want to learn but i don't know where to start from
@@sydneyachebo check this out
ruclips.net/user/liveInvAbhP4Nko?si=D29tceHvotfdSf7S
I don't want a 16k apartment or a rose lol
😂😂😂😂😂 YOU CAN NOT Go from 50k to 80k on average to a private jet kids now of days are LOST😂😂😂😂
The mortgage industry is getting hit hard.
Extremely hard
Same content creator tell u doctors tech is good same person will change his mouth posting he qiet
@@augustinaonuwundijo7386 what does this mean?
Its common sense that if you start in a new industry you start at entey level, so your vid seems to be more discouraging than honest. Goals mean you start at level one and your goal is level ten in between is time and learning experiencing. Follow your heart and what brings you joy, don't chase the bag. Seek ye first the kingdom of God...
Yeah these people grew up in the house. No streets smarts what so ever. I’ve just gotten into this field @ 44 after selling dope for most of my life and I’m sure I’ll be doing this till I retire. These people are simply trying to stifle people because of their own fears that the market will become over saturated. Valid argument but they realize they’ll have to compete with candidates that they probably can’t beat. Namely people who have streets smarts that can navigate through anything when determined. lol they’re lil slick comments gone stop when you got people that will smack fire 🔥 outta them in the work place… 😂 I’m coming and I’m teaching and bringing the hood with me…….
@@philliesization lol naw I help people get into the industries so I’m not worried about new people. Now the people I work with might because most of them really are trash and are only in the industry because they were there at the right time 😂😂
@@TechTualChatter I was partly being funny towards the end. But as with all fields the concern of over saturation can be real, the longer it exists. For instance; the training school im admitted to has a description that discourages African Americans from choosing that elective. I mean it literally says “African Americans don’t do well when it comes to testing & almost never pass”. I chose it simply because of that..
@@philliesization man post that info so I can put them on blast
I have a grad certificate in cyber security policy (2014) and noticed real quick that workers 45 YO or older have a hard time moving into the industry. At that time they were mainly looking of the tech side and younger workers. So I stopped trying to get cyber security jobs.
@@GriffinNotary just depends. Sometimes their strategy is wrong when getting into cyber
What is a good strategy for 45 YO in 2024?
Yep. He got me for almost 10 racks. A very expensive lesson for me.
This is common sense and you have to build your skills and portfolio over years! Maybe you get lucky or maybe you don’t! Either way it’s about the passion for the field!
Hell na that intro is crazy…. There is no one doing that. 0%……
I have 6 years working all kinds of areas in tech and barely learning cyber security i do believe u at least need 2 years of tech experience
Nice video!
Same can be said for Salesforce
Not really
The video from the content creator telling the truth about tech salary can be said about Salesforce. I work for SF and I see this everyday on LinkedIn, Reddit, youtube. You can literally search what salesforce certs pay the highest and find thousands of videos, subreddits, etc. People think they can get a cert and automatically walk into a 6+ figure salary. People sell courses on "how to pass exam and get a six figure SF job"
It happens, but the real money comes from marketing yourself, networking, going to SF events like DreamForce, starting your own consultancy, etc.
@@TechTualChatter please elaborate
Thank You
Call the podcasts out so we know who to stay away from
okay so I wont get a job in Cyber. Got it! Then whats the purpose of this youtube channel?
@@NateInYoState how about you look at the videos for yourself
anyone over here know any cyber sec intern openings?
If you live in Atlanta or willing to locate, my job hires interns and apprentices
@SilverTechHelpers what’s the company
Thank you for this honest content, Im about to make the transition and this is a new perspective from all the content that is out there. Thank You Ngiyabonga
lol just work multiple jobs bro
@@LDF-ld1dq everybody doesn’t have the skill level for that
To all my CS professionals out there, how valuable is Python and what other languages should I learn to add value to my expertise in cybersecurity? My cousin was explaining how her friend has 15 years experience and can’t find a job right now. Despite submitting over 400 applications… It was a wake up conversation because her friend doesn’t use Python and I’m thinking that’s the issue… or am I wrong entirely and the market for jobs is just that horrible? Can an insider please elaborate for me?
@@senpai_sake3276 they have a bad resume
Depends upon the domain, that person is singing for! They need to investigate thoroughly if programming is necessary. shallow applications will not see the light of the day. Not an insider.
That’s not the problem. I don’t think most of us came in this looking to make a lot of money from the start. The way they marketed was as if it was in demand, you go to school and you’ll be able to get in the field with no problem. And this info was coming from actual cybersecurity professionals, so the way that this field was marketed was an entire lie. I’ve been trying to break in since 2017 and it’s been a dead in so I just switched my Masters to Information Technology since it’s more broad
@@laquandramissick5937 if you have spent 7 years trying to get in you’re doing something wrong
I’m definitely not doing anything wrong. I have networked, been to conferences, etc., I’m not the only person who has had trouble with getting their foot in the doir
@@macygray5984 a lot of people have had trouble but it doesn’t
Take 7 years
Truth is I have 2 MSc degrees in Cybersecurity. I also have the CISSP, CEH, PMP, PSM2, Sec+, AWS SA, ITIL4, & SSBB certs. The problem is I don't have work experience for the jobs I'm qualified for. Also I'm over qualified for jobs I've applied for. Last week I had a hiring manager reject me because she said she knew they wouldn't be able to keep me because of my credentials.
@@mrrdw77 a real hiring manager would say that cause certs done mean much
Also you probably aren’t leveraging your network correctly
Don't put all of that on your resume. Dumb it down
1. Only put the certifications that's relevant to the job you're pursuing.
2. Research the interview process of the comapny and the profile of the person doing the interview
3. If you've touched the technology to some degree, you'll just have to learn to speak the languauge.
4. Don't be afraid to leverage contract positions
5.If you're at a job for 6 months, you'll pick up additional skills and keep movng from there.
6. Expect to get downsized multiple times in your IT journey so save your money
7. Keep Learning and learn to play the game
Hope some of this helps
Like this channel, Bro... been searching for honest chatter for years.
@@Hebrew247 thanks bro 💪🏽
Unless you’re an entrepreneur that finds a niche; you will not make 6 figures coming in. Most established industries and corporate structures; leadership tend to be 45+ and many years of experience in different sectors of IT.
@@kmh0902 I can’t say won’t because there are exceptions to the rule that have high income transferable skills
@@TechTualChatter there’s exceptions for sure; but some influencers paint the picture of guarantee. If you have in depth knowledge of a certain field; that can definitely work in your favor for sure!
@@kmh0902 my sentiments exactly, i've had some people on that have been able to do this but we also explain the nuance of their journey
So what's up with Boyd Clewis? Is what he markets reality in the PCI DSS space? Not throwing shade, just seems you guys know the ins on the industry.
I think it’s more beneficial with people who have some type of experience vs doing it with no experience at all
Well he let his CISSP expire so it shows you his money maker is selling you the promise. Kinda like the Amazon Dropping trend where everyone was trying to sell a course.
I’m in his program and I’ll say this. While I’ve definitely learned a ton and met amazing people, it’s definitely not a “90 days then you get a job” kind of thing. Henry is absolutely correct. You need to be seasoned somewhat to get faster results but if you are not seasoned in this space, it’ll take considerable time to really make the career transition, about 9 months to a year. It’s best to go to free local cyber networking events to understand the unique tech needs in your local town. Google cyber chapters: ISSA “your city”, ISACA “your city”, CSA “your city”, OWASP “ your city, ISC2 “your city” etc. and link up and simply tell people you’re starting to want to learn more about the cyber space ie GRC, IS Auditing etc. Plenty of chapter leaders will point you directly where to find very valuable resources that are much much cheaper and affordable. It’s what turned things around for my learning, personally. Just wish I went down that route first…I would’ve saved thousands and thousands of dollars. Especially in this economy…it’s a much better move than paying for random “false promise” online programs.
@@AnthonyGee-pn5wf Interesting, thanks for the info! And yeah, when I start seeing them all over YT ads and FB ads promoting it says a lot about where the $$$ really comes from. Everyone is just "One Funnel Away", Lol!!
I took Boyd's PCI program. I'm telling you now, save your money. That whole thing was just a very well devised scam in my opinion. I very quickly realized he was making his money off sales from getting ppl to sign up for this $15k program vs being the face of PCI as he tries to portray. Do you wanna know what you get for $15k?? Told to believe in yourself ("Authority Mindset") .. and industry information you can get off the PCI website for FREE. I can't speak for anyone else but it's definitely FUCK BOYD CLEWIS for me. Matter of fact, I remember one zoom call session where there was another classmate that was frustrated and looking for answers about something and one of boyd's associates (ON THE CALL) told him to "stop bitching" or "being a bitch" about it. That was when I REALLY detached from the program for real. I do not fuck with them and it's up if I ever run into his ass.
So if you have no experience start at help desk??
@@cynthiaadams4322 not necessarily just depends on what you want to do
A lot of cap
Why the stray shot at professor messer 😂😂😂👀
We did??
Great advice
Should I start learing Networking, programing and then operating systems in that order to learn how to become an ethical hacker?
you will need networking as foundation, from there OS, then programming.
@frankyciv not true
@@TechTualChatter you need some networking. Ethical hacker doesnt doesnt understand IP addressing, firewall polices and functionality, DNS,NAT ...seriously?
Everyone is saying the exact same thing. Can anyone substantiate anything with actual numbers⁉️⁉️⁉️
@@olusege168 saying what??