Hey everyone, hope you liked this video. What did you enjoy most, is there something I missed? What other topic you would like me to make a tutorial on? Let me know and we can choose the topic for the next video. Cheers!
You never explained that your "Diddle" is really "Open Close" Technique...i see that you are using your wrist twice, which it should be one motion with a squeeze. so 1 stroke.. 2 taps.. watch that pinky, you should also check the Open Close continuous mode...
I have started learning drum for 2 wks. I couldn't play double stroke roll and I searched double stroke roll technique from many video clip untill I watched this VDO clip. It is the best explanation clip.
I had pretty much given up trying to master the double stroke roll, having just discovered your tutorial i have found new hope on the technique, I appreciate your explanation and will go back and persevere, thank you, I’ll let you know how it goes 👍
All i can say is thank you for this every other video on this the instructor spends more time showing how amazing they're at it and not actually explaining what I'm supposed to do. So thank you.
Hi Michael, thanks for your kind words, really means a lot! I know I’m not amazing technically but really was my goal to show what I know works for a beginner as most of my students are beginners. So thanks!
Many thanks for such a clearly explained and demonstrated tutorial. As stated in comments below, this is the best video lesson on the double roll on RUclips. Most everyone else just plays a roll in increasing speed and that's it, with no real tips or advice.
Tommie Igoe and Jojo Mayer , to me , have covered this topic with great efficacy. However I'd admit this was not only concise, well articulated and filmed but also well demonstrated. Great stuff man ! Hands down THE best double stroke tutorial on RUclips!
This is by far the most useful explanation of the double I've found on the net. Now it makes sense to me, especially because of the exposition of the exact finger and movement details! Thank you!
Hi, thank you for your video, it's enlightening! I know it may seem obvious but mastering the shots is really the key to everything. The experience of doing something without almost effort, feeling a perfect balance between the mind and the body and the wand that is a part of us. I was also able to perfectly perceive the elasticity of the contact surface: whatever it is (even a pillow, a knee, the floor) it gives us a feeling. Just adapt and you're done!!! Thanks a lot
Thanks for the no ego tutorial. Excellent job if showing and explaining the stroke. Others seem to just want to show off, while you actually teach. again thanks! "the key is to actually disconnect from the need to produce the second hit and simply let the stick bounce..." yes!
Hi Fred, thank you for your kind words. Yes I wanted it to be straight to the point and most of all - effective and useful. I am very glad you found it to be just that! Thanks again and cheers.
Ive just started with a pad and sticks. This lesson is great. I have no idea what steps/skills to learn as a beginner , there is a huge amount of content on the web but its hard to find a playlist that walks you through the early stages of learning. If you could layout a beginners playlist in order from your content that would be great or add an overview lesson to explain how to start and what stages of learning that would be helpful. A lot of content assumes that you are "into" drums and drumming and doesnt cater to those who are coming from other musical backgrounds. I found your presentation skills the best of everyone I have watched so far. Great stuff.
Thanks for your kind words! I have thought about such a series for people who are just starting. It would be a real challenge as I would have to start with basic music theory and that takes a very different approach and would be more visual, which is not really my strong suit. But I will definitely think about what I could do in this direction. Thanks for watching and for your suggestions. Good luck with your playing!
Great video man thanks! I have to teach one of my students double stroke rolls and while it's something I can do very well I struggled with how to explain it to a beginner. This was very helpful in helping me find the words
I’ve been working on double strokes recently and I noticed my wrist movement is the same as yours and as I get faster I tend to stick out my little finger which you appear to do as well. That makes me feel a little better about my technique. My left hand still needs work though but thanks to this I feel like I’m going in the right direction. Cheers.
Hi Phil, I'm so glad to hear this. This is kind of an old video, I'd say my technique has evolved somewhat, maybe you could take a look at a newer one: ruclips.net/video/0xkWrHAm5X4/видео.html I have noticed when the left hand is weak, usually it doesn't make a wave, like the right hand does. By wave I mean a hint of whip motion. Perhaps try that? Cheers!
I will definitely check it out. Yeah I’ve noticed my wrist isn’t as strong on my left hand so my control over the stick is what’s letting me down, I’m definitely not getting that whip motion. My control on my right hand is fine so I can work on speed but putting both hands together still sounds uneven. Just got to keep on using the pad to practice.
George Stone says in his book that you need to work on each hand individually before putting them together, you might find that useful. Check out stick control. Cheers
@@DrumApe I have a really important question. I've watched your video on paradiddles and then this one as well. The way I think I'm supposed to play them beyond a certain speed is to do a controlled bounce for the diddles. Is this correct? Or am I supposed to do the push pull technique? Your technique is very subtle and even though I tried slowing it down, I couldn't figure it out. I've now plateaued at about 120bpm.
I actually just figured it out myself, but doing it a different way. Instead of giving space to the stick to bounce back, I interrupt it with my thumb, while keeping the fulcrum point with index finger completely relaxing all the others. Depending on how tensed the thumb is the tempo changes.
I also just wanted to thank you so much for this video right here. I just subscribed to your channel just from watching this video because it immediately kind of made it click in my mind about what to do with my hands. I'm looking forward to more videos from you. Great job and thank you.
Ive been using your approach to doubles ..Yeah works well.No wasted motions.I was having some problems when just using wrist for the throw down.I find that using the forearm while keeping the wrist straight helps,,thats it without locking the wrist and standing up getting a full extension from the arms helps also..Thanks
Thanks for the response..I've been struggling for awhile with all stokes.Hammering out back beats and really digging in damaged alot of the sensitivity of the fingers underneath.This is a real open approach and really letting the weight of the sticks (gravity) do some of the work. Also I found that standing up and letting the arms move like in your demos is really helping. Im going to focus on doubles and I will keep you posted.
i have watched many many drum tutorials, ..and i spent so much time watching useless videos..... yours are the best! ...i am currently concentrating on learning double strokes, paradiddles, 5 and 6 stroke roll, ... are you planning to do tutorials about 5 and 6 stroke rolls?
Thank you so much for saying this. Well, 5 and 6 stroke rolls.. I think I need to develop those better for myself, before I could make a video about it. But I don't see why not!
Hi Vincent Santarelli, so glad to hear that! You could also check you this video about double stroke roll: ruclips.net/video/0xkWrHAm5X4/видео.html Cheers!
I am not a physician and you should definitely consult with one. My advice is - build your technique and endurance very slowly and pace yourself. If you experience pain while you play - stop and rest. Otherwise I'm still learning and hopefully I will for years to come. It's a journey, not a destination. Cheers!
Excellent vid. You mention that the weak side often sounds, well, weak, and that is one of my biggest problems. My left hand is like a cement block compared to right, I have trouble landing the stick in the same spot when practicing, it's kind of all over. What is your advice for strengthening and getting this weaker hand to get with the program? I'm trying to spend more time with just left hand during practice, but nothing I've tried so far seems to be doing much good.
Hey thanks for your question. That often happens when the wrist is locked. Your aim should be to unlock the wrist while pinching the stick firmly with your thumb and middle, ring and pointer fingers. Also it would be ideal if you spent more time on just the left hand but don’t overdo it. Focus on getting good bounce from the stick without using muscles than you don’t need to like biceps and shoulder, which will lock up your arm. I promise to make a video about working up strength in the fingers and palm muscles which overcomes the problem of locking up, it’s hard to answer such question in a comment. Cheers!
Given weakness in your non-dominant hand, if you do singles and doubles with both hands alternating and at the same time, you will find you are swinging the weak hand differently and holding the stick slightly differently looking for strength thus swinging at angles, not vertically. Go painfully slow like 50 bpm and force yourself to imitate the strong hand with the weak. Don't exceed the speed where you can imitate the strong hand. You will then be able to feel and exercise the wrist swing and each finger separately and together with the stick falling naturally straight down and bouncing straight up. Speed is the enemy here. Your strong hand is the teacher and the weak hand is the student. And that's for a lifetime at the edges of your skills.
Thanks a lot Drum Ape! I have a question to all of you: I have started to practice on the drumset however when I'm sitting down in front of the snare drum and start to try Event #1, my thighs get in the way of the stick's butt end traveling down (while the tip goes up). I am already sitting rather high, my upper leg goes somewhat downward, not parallel to the floor, still there is no way the stick will not hit the leg. Am I right to assume that the very beginning of this exercise (where the stick goes the full movement) can only be done standing up (cause when I just raise the drum then I'd need to raise my arms to ridiculous heights and the forearms are nowhere close to parallel to the floor)? I can see that the stick will eventually not travel this far when one starts to play the diddles faster, so I guess that's just something that occurs when you're dissecting the technique like this. Or am I doing something wrong? Do all of you experience this when in a real-life seating position and starting with Event #1?
Hi Rÿtch Bÿtch Rocking Club, you are not wrong. I guess the way I've shown it in the video would only work standing up. My intent was to show the mechanics of the motions necessary to make the diddle happen. I just sat down on the drumset and tired it, before I answer you. It worked ok. I guess it would matter exactly where the snare is, maybe try to push it forward away from you a few centimeters, if that's not enough, try going inward a bit with your hands, toward french grip position. I made sure my forehand was parallel to the floor while doing the diddle, with my wrist hanging slightly downward. The motion becomes closer to push-pull technique, so maybe check that out and model between the two. Hope that helps, let me know if you have more questions. Cheers.
Excellent video and amazing skills! BTW you mention another video where you'll cover how to play the double stroke roll in its inverted form, but couldn't find it in your channel. ¿are you planning on realeasing it some day? looking forward to it!! Thanks!!
Excellent explanation. My question is regarding your grip technique. I have been using the Murray Spivak method, where the stick is held loosely and is resting in the pocket of the first knuckle of the third digit, (second finger). It’s a bit hard to tell, but it appears to me that is how you hold the stick, and if you think it’s a good method.
Hi buddyrichable1, thanks! I just saw Chad Wackerman explain about Murray's method and it was fascinating. It affirmed a lot of thing I learned with time and a lot of my tutoring revolves around Stick Control and also around being relaxed and remaining in that state as you turn up the speed. Do I understand correctly, you are asking about the ring finger or the middle finger?
I’m a little confused as to how this works with the inverted double stroke roll in your other video. Do you tap with a downstroke, then use a combination of wrist/arms for the upstroke, at the same time or slightly after, use the fingers to play the second hit? I’m not sure if that text makes sense..
That's the best one on youtube for double stroke lessons! P.S - Can somebody tell me if there's a tutorial for the exercise pattern which is in the intro of this video?
Thank you so much for saying this! The intro is something I wrote, as I needed an intro. So no tutorial, but maybe I can transcribe it and post it in the description?
Thank you man! There's one more thing I want to ask. Can you name the rolls which you have had used in this pattern?(For example: 2 stroke roll, 6 stroke roll, para-diddle roll etc.)
Hi Kathy, thanks for your question. A few people have asked me about this already, so it’s time to make this particular video. I’ll try to make it happen this coming month.
My double stroke roll has gotten very clean and very fast but i struggle to find any use for it in our band. We play mostly 80's style post punk (original songs). Ideas?
I almost never use double stroke roll in real life playing situations. But whenever I need to play some fast fill or a passage requires it it's right there. You might want to check out some linear grooves, and try to incorporate some double hits in the pattern in the hi hat or snare. Learn to play it fast and maybe if there's a drum break in the arrangement you can try to use it. That would be my best guess.
Hi Franky-B, really depends on a lot of factors, but if you really play everyday you should see improvements even after a few weeks. However, you should take warming up and stretching very seriously, as that would minimise the risk of hurting your wrists. Also, this is one way of achieving a natural double stroke, you should check out other sources and hopefully with combined knowledge you'll get best results. Cheers and good luck!
I should buy a practice pad. Don't even have a drum kit but would love to get one some day. I think it'd be beneficial to have good technique before jumping right on a kit and having at it. Can anyone comment on this?
Yes, I’d say you need to work up your muscles and hands a bit on the pad before jumping on the kit. Ease into it and don’t rush the results, with time things will smooth out. Hope that helps.
I've just started learning at 60, have a Pearl Kit, have had carpal tunnel operation in both hands, hoping they get faster, fingers don't work great with carpal tunnel, operation doesn't really help
Full respect to you, but please be careful. With so much damage you could easily hurt yourself again. My advice would be to check out the jazz approach, it's more minimal and relies heavily on the natural rebound of the stick, although fingers are involved. Basically anything that's played gently should be alright.
Having a hard time understanding the point of that full range of motion. When you play quicker it won't have that much rotation. Just seems like an awkward version of french grip fingers like blast beat, but when I see people doing doubles it seems faster than it is? Dunno, my left prefers singles and can't do doubles well, and my right prefers doubles/triples. All the push pull stuff just confuses me.
Hi Swiss, not sure what you mean by full range motion, but either way full range motion has more inertia, which is a driving force behind rebound. So my rationale is that developing rebound, especially for a complete beginner, comes with exaggerated amplitudes, to ensure the stick has enough inertia to produce a bounce. Hope that answers your question. Regarding the french grip - you could really make doubles in any technique, but I the French grip would limit the amplitude, as the thumb is on top of the stick. Push-pull comes out naturally after you get some resonance going. My advice is work on your left hand individually and give it some time to catch up to the right hand. Cheers.
@@DrumApe Guess I wrote that weird. I just mean the 2:00 - 3:00. There is such a large range of motion, I get that you're exaggerating it to a point but I can't seem to get my brain to make sense of it in a smaller motion. I also can't seem to get the bounce that high either, but I'll keep trying. It's like my brain just wants to do L-R-R and can't make sense of doing L-L-R-R. I guess it's from drumming in my head for 20 years without knowing any technique. Just been drumming on a practice pad for a couple months. Thanks for the reply and I'll keep working on it.
very good lesson, but it sounds like you contradict yourself. At the beginning you say to let the second hit happen naturally, but then later on you tell us to snap the stick back for the second hit. I keep working on that second hit and am hoping for an explanation that works best for me.
Hey yes that’s true I said that. The second hit happening naturally is a broader definition, but to make the roll sound smooth we need to emphasize on the second hit until it becomes as stable and predictable as the first. What needs to happen is pull up the bounce from the first hit, as you get height it’s easier to strike again for the second hit. Since I made this video I have been working on using the ring and middle fingers to pull for the second hit while keeping the wrist straight. That way I minimize wrist movement while maximizing stick height. I’ll try to make a video about it at some point. Cheers!
The reason I said that was because I'm learning by listening to You. The voice over covers the drum sound or makes it a mixed bag. Not easy to sort out. Thanks
RackwitzG Playing on pillows should be taken with a grain of salt, as it puts strain on the wrists and that could lead to injury if those muscles are not yet developed. Please make sure you do some stretching exercises before and after practicing. Good luck!
Hey everyone, hope you liked this video. What did you enjoy most, is there something I missed? What other topic you would like me to make a tutorial on? Let me know and we can choose the topic for the next video. Cheers!
You never explained that your "Diddle" is really "Open Close" Technique...i see that you are using your wrist twice, which it should be one motion with a squeeze. so 1 stroke.. 2 taps.. watch that pinky, you should also check the Open Close continuous mode...
best explanation of the double stroke on youtube
Thank you, I appreciate that!
I would like to second that. You explained questions in my head I didn't know how to ask...you have set me right....big thanks👍🏽
I think the same. Very good explanation. Good Job!
I second this
Agree, this answered a lot questions I had. Thanks!
I have been a drummer most of my sixty years of life! Received my percussion degree from a University, but never knew what a "diddle" was. Thank You!
You must have missed the first day....🤣
This is literally the only video that’s actually helpful, thank you!
@ch-yq5yn My bad, I didn’t word it correctly. What I meant was the ones I’ve seen didn’t really help me, but this one did
I have started learning drum for 2 wks. I couldn't play double stroke roll and I searched double stroke roll technique from many video clip untill I watched this VDO clip. It is the best explanation clip.
hi thanks a lot for saying this!
Your VDO clip is so amazing, I really appreciate that.
I had pretty much given up trying to master the double stroke roll, having just discovered your tutorial i have found new hope on the technique, I appreciate your explanation and will go back and persevere, thank you, I’ll let you know how it goes 👍
Wow thanks that’s awesome! Never give up, it’s an everyday battle. Let me know how it goes.
How did it go?
@@samhilton4173 it didn’t go too well, I’ve pretty much given up ! Sorry for the sad ending dude🙁
Go back to the drawing board and try again. Don’t give up yet
Same for me, man.
I just can't get it.
Maybe I simply don't have the hand dexterity for it. Been trying for years, myself.
holy cow man, i saw the light. when you said dont even think about the first hit and focus on the second< i saw the light. thank you
All i can say is thank you for this every other video on this the instructor spends more time showing how amazing they're at it and not actually explaining what I'm supposed to do. So thank you.
Hi Michael, thanks for your kind words, really means a lot! I know I’m not amazing technically but really was my goal to show what I know works for a beginner as most of my students are beginners. So thanks!
This video is the best explanation and I’ve spent the past hour watching videos on this on here.
As a very newbie, this is the best explanation of doubles, thx
You're welcome!
Many thanks for such a clearly explained and demonstrated tutorial. As stated in comments below, this is the best video lesson on the double roll on RUclips. Most everyone else just plays a roll in increasing speed and that's it, with no real tips or advice.
Thanks for the kind words mkalamaras, that was my goal, very glad I made something useful. Rock on!
Tommie Igoe and Jojo Mayer , to me , have covered this topic with great efficacy. However I'd admit this was not only concise, well articulated and filmed but also well demonstrated. Great stuff man ! Hands down THE best double stroke tutorial on RUclips!
Wow thank you so much! Appreciate your words.
This is probably the best video on the double stroke roll!!! Thank you!
Wow, thanks! Did you check out this one?
ruclips.net/video/0xkWrHAm5X4/видео.html
This is by far the most useful explanation of the double I've found on the net. Now it makes sense to me, especially because of the exposition of the exact finger and movement details! Thank you!
Hi! thanks for your kind words! I am very happy that my video helped you in any way, good luck with your playing and thanks for watching!
Most helpful video on how to perform a double stroke. Thanks.
best video of double stroke on youtube, thank you
Hi, thank you for your video, it's enlightening! I know it may seem obvious but mastering the shots is really the key to everything. The experience of doing something without almost effort, feeling a perfect balance between the mind and the body and the wand that is a part of us. I was also able to perfectly perceive the elasticity of the contact surface: whatever it is (even a pillow, a knee, the floor) it gives us a feeling. Just adapt and you're done!!! Thanks a lot
Thanks for the no ego tutorial. Excellent job if showing and explaining the stroke. Others seem to just want to show off, while you actually teach. again thanks! "the key is to actually disconnect from the need to produce the second hit and simply let the stick bounce..." yes!
Hi Fred, thank you for your kind words. Yes I wanted it to be straight to the point and most of all - effective and useful. I am very glad you found it to be just that! Thanks again and cheers.
I was struggling while playing double stork roll but now I able to play freely from your video 😊 thanks for making this video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️😉
Hi Sharon, that is so cool! Thanks for saying something :)
I was looking on RUclips for ages and saw RUclips and have finally got the hang of it! Thanks man ✌️
I am so glad to hear this!
Ive just started with a pad and sticks. This lesson is great. I have no idea what steps/skills to learn as a beginner , there is a huge amount of content on the web but its hard to find a playlist that walks you through the early stages of learning. If you could layout a beginners playlist in order from your content that would be great or add an overview lesson to explain how to start and what stages of learning that would be helpful. A lot of content assumes that you are "into" drums and drumming and doesnt cater to those who are coming from other musical backgrounds. I found your presentation skills the best of everyone I have watched so far. Great stuff.
Thanks for your kind words! I have thought about such a series for people who are just starting. It would be a real challenge as I would have to start with basic music theory and that takes a very different approach and would be more visual, which is not really my strong suit. But I will definitely think about what I could do in this direction. Thanks for watching and for your suggestions. Good luck with your playing!
Best video on double strokes!! Thanks a ton!!
Hey great! Thanks!
I see that the diddle is the key to every great solo.
No way around it
This is a great video for learning double stroke rolls. :) You helped me a lot. Great thanks and greetings from the Czech Republic!
Awesome! Thanks!
Thanks, Drum Ape. This is a really helpful breakdown on how the diddle works.
You have excellent explanations and demonstrations.
Thanks, that means a lot to me.
By far the best double stroke explanation
Thanks for the kind words!
I still love this video!!! Let me watch this forever...
Great video man thanks! I have to teach one of my students double stroke rolls and while it's something I can do very well I struggled with how to explain it to a beginner. This was very helpful in helping me find the words
Hi, thanks for the kind words. So happy this helped. Cheers!
Bravo, really great explanation of the technique, I agree that this is the best one on RUclips on Double Stroke Roll for Beginners
Hi Ron Benvenisti, thank you so much for your kind words.
this is guy is a legendary teacher....thats all ive gotta say
Hi Amal Josh, so kind of you, thanks!
@@DrumApe no bruh, thanks to u!...appreciate it so much...
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for!♥️ Thanks for showing the hands in detail!!!
So glad you think this way! Thanks for your support.
I’ve been working on double strokes recently and I noticed my wrist movement is the same as yours and as I get faster I tend to stick out my little finger which you appear to do as well. That makes me feel a little better about my technique. My left hand still needs work though but thanks to this I feel like I’m going in the right direction. Cheers.
Hi Phil, I'm so glad to hear this. This is kind of an old video, I'd say my technique has evolved somewhat, maybe you could take a look at a newer one:
ruclips.net/video/0xkWrHAm5X4/видео.html
I have noticed when the left hand is weak, usually it doesn't make a wave, like the right hand does. By wave I mean a hint of whip motion. Perhaps try that? Cheers!
I will definitely check it out. Yeah I’ve noticed my wrist isn’t as strong on my left hand so my control over the stick is what’s letting me down, I’m definitely not getting that whip motion. My control on my right hand is fine so I can work on speed but putting both hands together still sounds uneven. Just got to keep on using the pad to practice.
George Stone says in his book that you need to work on each hand individually before putting them together, you might find that useful. Check out stick control. Cheers
Great explanation of the double stroke roll thank you
This one is a must-see! Totally nailed it!
Very glad you thought so!
Thank you so much for this. I’m watching it over and over and practising it too. I know now that I’ll get there! 👏🇦🇺✌️
Thanks Markie, so glad
Brilliant tutorial!
Thanks Jack
I like the Steve Morse band groove at the end. Nice touch!
Wasn't sure if anyone would recognise it lol
@@DrumApe I have a really important question. I've watched your video on paradiddles and then this one as well. The way I think I'm supposed to play them beyond a certain speed is to do a controlled bounce for the diddles. Is this correct? Or am I supposed to do the push pull technique?
Your technique is very subtle and even though I tried slowing it down, I couldn't figure it out. I've now plateaued at about 120bpm.
I actually just figured it out myself, but doing it a different way. Instead of giving space to the stick to bounce back, I interrupt it with my thumb, while keeping the fulcrum point with index finger completely relaxing all the others. Depending on how tensed the thumb is the tempo changes.
I also just wanted to thank you so much for this video right here. I just subscribed to your channel just from watching this video because it immediately kind of made it click in my mind about what to do with my hands. I'm looking forward to more videos from you. Great job and thank you.
Thanks, very kind of you to say. I should have some more videos in the near future!
Ive been using your approach to doubles ..Yeah works well.No wasted motions.I was having some problems when just using wrist for the throw down.I find that using the forearm while keeping the wrist straight helps,,thats it without locking the wrist and standing up getting a full extension from the arms helps also..Thanks
brilliant tutorial! Thank you
Hey man, thanks!
Very good style of the way u explained 🌹
Hey Tushar Shah, thanks a lot!
Thank you so much I'm a beginner and was struggling to learn
A very clear and concise explanation with useful exercises. Thanks, keep up the good work!
Hey Seth, thanks for your kind words!
You have the best teaching videos!
Hi Makhach, thanks so much!
Great instruction. Thank you
You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching.
Do you have the advanced video you mentioned in this video?
Hi, which one do you mean? Inverted double stroke roll?
This is great. Thanks so much for a thorough lesson. You break it down so clearly and I have a much better idea of the basics I need to be working on.
You're very welcome!
Great job man! Thanks for that
Thanks pl jb!
Thanks for the response..I've been struggling for awhile with all stokes.Hammering out back beats and really digging in damaged alot of the sensitivity of the fingers underneath.This is a real open approach and really letting the weight of the sticks (gravity) do some of the work. Also I found that standing up and letting the arms move like in your demos is really helping. Im going to focus on doubles and I will keep you posted.
So cool, let me know if I can help further! Good luck
Amazing detail!! Thanks for this video!!
I came here from Drumeo, where the double stroke roll is very poorly explained. Your video is so much better in every way.
Makes me so happy to hear that, thank you!
this is so perfect in every way
Wouldn’t call it perfect but I’m flattered! Thanks!
This is oustanding tuition,thk you.
Very kind of you, thanks! Cheers!
Bardzo dziękuję :) Poszedłem do przodu!
Nie ma za co przyjacielu. Mam nowy film o podwójnym rzucie, możesz obejrzeć go jutro! Twoje zdrowie
Gosh! this is what I looking for! Thanks for it bruhh, you're great!
Awesome Josh thanks!
Hey, thanks a lot! That's really helpful
Thanks for watching! Will have some new videos soon.
i have watched many many drum tutorials, ..and i spent so much time watching useless videos..... yours are the best! ...i am currently concentrating on learning double strokes, paradiddles, 5 and 6 stroke roll, ... are you planning to do tutorials about 5 and 6 stroke rolls?
Thank you so much for saying this. Well, 5 and 6 stroke rolls.. I think I need to develop those better for myself, before I could make a video about it. But I don't see why not!
cool! ...in the meantime, i will be watching all your other videos... and trying to learn...
Tx for doing this. Very helpful!!!
Thanks a lot, so glad that helped
Good stuff, thanks man, I'll get to work.
Thanks to you too, let me know how it works out
thank you very much, my dude! great instruction!
Hi Tilmann, thanks I appreciate it!
Thank you very much!
Thank you so much, I finally get it!
Please I don't have the drum pad what else can I used to learn the double stroke roll at home
Try mouse pad on a desk or table. It’s not optimal but should work as a temporary solution.
Great intro!
thanks! helped a bunch
Please make videos on how to use rolls and para diddles as fills.
Thank you so much! This helps alot!!
really nice.Good explanation.Do you have something for wrist development as in free stroke or full stroke?Just wrist hinge
Hi, thanks! No I don't, but sounds like a great topic for my next video.
Thanks!
Thanks to you too!
great stuff,works good for me
Hi Vincent Santarelli, so glad to hear that!
You could also check you this video about double stroke roll:
ruclips.net/video/0xkWrHAm5X4/видео.html
Cheers!
What would you recommend for someone with arthritis in their hands? And are still learning how to play
I am not a physician and you should definitely consult with one. My advice is - build your technique and endurance very slowly and pace yourself. If you experience pain while you play - stop and rest. Otherwise I'm still learning and hopefully I will for years to come. It's a journey, not a destination. Cheers!
Excellent vid. You mention that the weak side often sounds, well, weak, and that is one of my biggest problems. My left hand is like a cement block compared to right, I have trouble landing the stick in the same spot when practicing, it's kind of all over. What is your advice for strengthening and getting this weaker hand to get with the program? I'm trying to spend more time with just left hand during practice, but nothing I've tried so far seems to be doing much good.
Hey thanks for your question. That often happens when the wrist is locked. Your aim should be to unlock the wrist while pinching the stick firmly with your thumb and middle, ring and pointer fingers. Also it would be ideal if you spent more time on just the left hand but don’t overdo it. Focus on getting good bounce from the stick without using muscles than you don’t need to like biceps and shoulder, which will lock up your arm. I promise to make a video about working up strength in the fingers and palm muscles which overcomes the problem of locking up, it’s hard to answer such question in a comment. Cheers!
Thank you for this video and this comment! I have the same issue with my weak left hand. But I'm gonna practice a lot.
Given weakness in your non-dominant hand, if you do singles and doubles with both hands alternating and at the same time, you will find you are swinging the weak hand differently and holding the stick slightly differently looking for strength thus swinging at angles, not vertically. Go painfully slow like 50 bpm and force yourself to imitate the strong hand with the weak. Don't exceed the speed where you can imitate the strong hand. You will then be able to feel and exercise the wrist swing and each finger separately and together with the stick falling naturally straight down and bouncing straight up. Speed is the enemy here. Your strong hand is the teacher and the weak hand is the student. And that's for a lifetime at the edges of your skills.
Please do that even double stroke rule video fast my strokes are uneven it would be a great help. Thanks
Please elaborate exactly what you mean, not sure I understand 100%, thanks.
@@DrumApe their is some minor problems with my grip my friend said I open my hand too much during double stroke.
Thanks a lot Drum Ape! I have a question to all of you: I have started to practice on the drumset however when I'm sitting down in front of the snare drum and start to try Event #1, my thighs get in the way of the stick's butt end traveling down (while the tip goes up). I am already sitting rather high, my upper leg goes somewhat downward, not parallel to the floor, still there is no way the stick will not hit the leg. Am I right to assume that the very beginning of this exercise (where the stick goes the full movement) can only be done standing up (cause when I just raise the drum then I'd need to raise my arms to ridiculous heights and the forearms are nowhere close to parallel to the floor)? I can see that the stick will eventually not travel this far when one starts to play the diddles faster, so I guess that's just something that occurs when you're dissecting the technique like this. Or am I doing something wrong? Do all of you experience this when in a real-life seating position and starting with Event #1?
Hi Rÿtch Bÿtch Rocking Club, you are not wrong. I guess the way I've shown it in the video would only work standing up. My intent was to show the mechanics of the motions necessary to make the diddle happen. I just sat down on the drumset and tired it, before I answer you. It worked ok. I guess it would matter exactly where the snare is, maybe try to push it forward away from you a few centimeters, if that's not enough, try going inward a bit with your hands, toward french grip position. I made sure my forehand was parallel to the floor while doing the diddle, with my wrist hanging slightly downward. The motion becomes closer to push-pull technique, so maybe check that out and model between the two. Hope that helps, let me know if you have more questions. Cheers.
Excellent video and amazing skills! BTW you mention another video where you'll cover how to play the double stroke roll in its inverted form, but couldn't find it in your channel. ¿are you planning on realeasing it some day? looking forward to it!! Thanks!!
Many thanks! Oh well you got me there.. definitely an important topic, I’ll make sure to cover this in the nearest future, thanks!
Excellent explanation. My question is regarding your grip technique. I have been using the Murray Spivak method, where the stick is held loosely and is resting in the pocket of the first knuckle of the third digit, (second finger). It’s a bit hard to tell, but it appears to me that is how you hold the stick, and if you think it’s a good method.
Hi buddyrichable1, thanks! I just saw Chad Wackerman explain about Murray's method and it was fascinating. It affirmed a lot of thing I learned with time and a lot of my tutoring revolves around Stick Control and also around being relaxed and remaining in that state as you turn up the speed.
Do I understand correctly, you are asking about the ring finger or the middle finger?
I’m a little confused as to how this works with the inverted double stroke roll in your other video.
Do you tap with a downstroke, then use a combination of wrist/arms for the upstroke, at the same time or slightly after, use the fingers to play the second hit? I’m not sure if that text makes sense..
That's the best one on youtube for double stroke lessons!
P.S - Can somebody tell me if there's a tutorial for the exercise pattern which is in the intro of this video?
Thank you so much for saying this! The intro is something I wrote, as I needed an intro. So no tutorial, but maybe I can transcribe it and post it in the description?
Drum Ape, that would be great! It sounds really fancy to me and I'd like to show off to my band conductor! 😄
Super cool, I’ll have it up later today
Ok transcription is up in the description. Please check it out, let me know how it works out!
Thank you man! There's one more thing I want to ask. Can you name the rolls which you have had used in this pattern?(For example: 2 stroke roll, 6 stroke roll, para-diddle roll etc.)
Is there a part two to this? I've got this down, but I need my second beat to be louder. Thank you so much for this great lesson!
Hi Kathy, thanks for your question. A few people have asked me about this already, so it’s time to make this particular video. I’ll try to make it happen this coming month.
How long you took to learn it guys?
Super
My double stroke roll has gotten very clean and very fast but i struggle to find any use for it in our band. We play mostly 80's style post punk (original songs). Ideas?
I almost never use double stroke roll in real life playing situations. But whenever I need to play some fast fill or a passage requires it it's right there. You might want to check out some linear grooves, and try to incorporate some double hits in the pattern in the hi hat or snare. Learn to play it fast and maybe if there's a drum break in the arrangement you can try to use it. That would be my best guess.
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Many thanks!
good job . i am old i am 57 can i still learn this ? and is one hour a day enough do you think to study and learn this technicque ?
Hi Franky-B, really depends on a lot of factors, but if you really play everyday you should see improvements even after a few weeks. However, you should take warming up and stretching very seriously, as that would minimise the risk of hurting your wrists. Also, this is one way of achieving a natural double stroke, you should check out other sources and hopefully with combined knowledge you'll get best results. Cheers and good luck!
@@DrumApe thank you for your reply. I'm going to try. This technique is amazing.
I should buy a practice pad. Don't even have a drum kit but would love to get one some day. I think it'd be beneficial to have good technique before jumping right on a kit and having at it. Can anyone comment on this?
Yes, I’d say you need to work up your muscles and hands a bit on the pad before jumping on the kit. Ease into it and don’t rush the results, with time things will smooth out. Hope that helps.
GOLD!!!!
I've just started learning at 60, have a Pearl Kit, have had carpal tunnel operation in both hands, hoping they get faster, fingers don't work great with carpal tunnel, operation doesn't really help
Full respect to you, but please be careful. With so much damage you could easily hurt yourself again. My advice would be to check out the jazz approach, it's more minimal and relies heavily on the natural rebound of the stick, although fingers are involved. Basically anything that's played gently should be alright.
carry on
Let's hope RUclips lasts ;)
Dude, you should do covers on the channel too!!
I will eventually.. I just want to cover my basics first lol
Having a hard time understanding the point of that full range of motion. When you play quicker it won't have that much rotation. Just seems like an awkward version of french grip fingers like blast beat, but when I see people doing doubles it seems faster than it is? Dunno, my left prefers singles and can't do doubles well, and my right prefers doubles/triples. All the push pull stuff just confuses me.
Hi Swiss, not sure what you mean by full range motion, but either way full range motion has more inertia, which is a driving force behind rebound. So my rationale is that developing rebound, especially for a complete beginner, comes with exaggerated amplitudes, to ensure the stick has enough inertia to produce a bounce. Hope that answers your question. Regarding the french grip - you could really make doubles in any technique, but I the French grip would limit the amplitude, as the thumb is on top of the stick. Push-pull comes out naturally after you get some resonance going. My advice is work on your left hand individually and give it some time to catch up to the right hand. Cheers.
@@DrumApe Guess I wrote that weird. I just mean the 2:00 - 3:00. There is such a large range of motion, I get that you're exaggerating it to a point but I can't seem to get my brain to make sense of it in a smaller motion. I also can't seem to get the bounce that high either, but I'll keep trying. It's like my brain just wants to do L-R-R and can't make sense of doing L-L-R-R. I guess it's from drumming in my head for 20 years without knowing any technique. Just been drumming on a practice pad for a couple months. Thanks for the reply and I'll keep working on it.
Brilliant teaching method. The 36 non likes must have been from people who have been diddled.
Haha thanks a lot!
the best
Nice thanks!
Not bad:)
This is a really good video, but I've never felt so much like a hand version of Bambi in my life 😂😂
Spudmint that’s hilarious!
Well diddle me this
Chewie Lewie lol!
very good lesson, but it sounds like you contradict yourself. At the beginning you say to let the second hit happen naturally, but then later on you tell us to snap the stick back for the second hit. I keep working on that second hit and am hoping for an explanation that works best for me.
Hey yes that’s true I said that. The second hit happening naturally is a broader definition, but to make the roll sound smooth we need to emphasize on the second hit until it becomes as stable and predictable as the first. What needs to happen is pull up the bounce from the first hit, as you get height it’s easier to strike again for the second hit. Since I made this video I have been working on using the ring and middle fingers to pull for the second hit while keeping the wrist straight. That way I minimize wrist movement while maximizing stick height. I’ll try to make a video about it at some point. Cheers!
C'est triste, c'est pas en français. 😢
Sinon, merci pour cette vidéo !! 😊
Salut, j'ai posté des sous-titres en anglais, j'espère que cela aiderait un peu :) Merci!
It would have been so good to just hear Your playing at the end and not be covered by the talking. Hard to sort it out.
I’ll keep it in mind for the next one, thanks!
The reason I said that was because I'm learning by listening to You. The voice over covers the drum sound or makes it a mixed bag. Not easy to sort out. Thanks
Yes I understand, I’ll keep it in mind for next videos, will have a section with no voice over. Thanks for your sub
I‘m now confused with the guys that teach to practice double strokes on a pillow without rebound only using your wrist for the strokes.
RackwitzG Playing on pillows should be taken with a grain of salt, as it puts strain on the wrists and that could lead to injury if those muscles are not yet developed. Please make sure you do some stretching exercises before and after practicing. Good luck!