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- I keep telling people that have a type of loaded and do fire wood don't need a log lift . Just doing some odds and ends clean up before the rain sets in . sorry about all the wind noise out of my control . the loader bucket is 80 " wide . the stack was 40 " high plus there were 2 rounds deep in the bottom row standing up rite . i cut my rounds at 18" . So there is a pretty good JAG (Mike Morgan ) of wood here . the ones on the bottom i can't pick up so there are rolled in and stood up . i stack 2 to 3 rows on top depending on there size . How many trips around the splitter would that take . then think about you either have to roll the logs to the splitter or the splitter to the logs one of the either has to happen . 1/2 that bucket was split and stacked in 12 min. . if i ran a conveyor then you got to pick the wood up again more work . TRY A TABLE its easier thanks for the watch john
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I have used 3 different log splitters over the last 4 years. My wen died for good this year, the next one (Powerhorse) died 4 hours out of the box. I now have a bi directional Boss. All I have ever used was a table and have been real happy. Now I have to get an apron like yours! Should have done it 4 years ago!
I do like your use of your short pickaroon to pull the rounds and large splits to your work table, without any bending over!
hi there i try not to pick up with them just pull , thanks for dropping in john
really nice to see someone actually stack the fire wood rather than just toss it in a pile
i don't really stacking it but it works best for me . then i can just pick the box up and put it rite in front of the boiler door . 1 step john
I like that make-sense operation. Typical for you,sir,no nonsense stuff!👍👍
thank you john
I built a splitter last year from bits and pieces of steel and it turned out good.. 8 hp Honda... all hydraulics are new. I have it located in a shed with a table setup similar to yours, and just throw the splits in the bucket of the tractor to take away for stacking. Wouldn’t trade this arrangement for any! I’m 75 and need all the shortcuts I can get. I also have a 2500 lb winch from Harbor Freight mounted on a post with the cable going through pulleys with my tongs hanging from the rafters to handle the really big stuff. I try to work smarter, not harder!
I just discovered your channel, and really enjoy your projects... thanks for sharing!
i used to use an old boss winch but i found it easer to roll the big rounds in the bucket and just let the tractor pick them up and set them on the table . pull them to the splitter with pickaroon then in some kind of wood crate . no restacking . thanks for the watch john
This is very smart. I am adding a table to my set-up!
i like the metal one over the wood one they slide better . i have helped make a few . none of those guys have used there log loaders sense bigger is better . john
I like your system of chopping wood. Everything is at waist height which is good for your back. Everything is only 1-2 steps forward or backward or sideways which saves energy and conserves effort. This is well thought out. Excellent!!
thank you it works well for me . had a conveyor split a lot faster but then i had to bend over and pick it to stack it . did you see the one using a conveyor . john
I like your style! And I totally agree. I’m enjoying your videos.
There are a lot of people who need to split wood who will never own equipment with loader buckets on them. To them a log lift is a great tool.
hi there i agree with you ,when i started i just split by hand , but there are a lot of people who already have a tractor or loader and think they need to spend more money on a log lift , thanks for dropping in john
I'm pretty sure there are more people who own a splitter without owning a loader than the ones that have a splitter and a loader. It's OK that you do not like the lifts, but a lot of people need them.@@fricknjeep
This is one of the fastest Hydraulic log splitters I have ever seen pretty nice set up you got
my wood splitting has been evolving sense 1972 . but i think i am there now john
I agree!
Well, i agree with you about log lifts, i am going to remove mine and start out with a wood table for now...
hi how is it working out now a year later john
I like the fast cycle time. Good system.
hi there i am only running it at less then 1/2 speed . its just a little fast for me now . splitter and stacking is about a cord per hr . with a conveyor it will do 2 there r other videos of it . thanks for the watch john
Grsat setup!! I may have to build something like that. Thanks for sharing!!
i have made 4 for other friends and they can't believe how well it works . the wood goes rite into a box . no picking up from a pile 2 steps to any box john
@@fricknjeep i saw that. I will be setting our system up similar to that.
Hi - it's Big Rodders with Greetings from Ireland. This is one of the most interesting videos I've viewed out of 100s of log splitting in the US of A and I agree with the main point made. I've always been fascinated with the amount of movement needed and handlng of material to split on most horizontal splitters. I split vertically since I have to deal with all shapes and sizes of wood and accuracy and size of split is crucial for our smaller stoves. In my view I expend much less energy manhandling the wood and it puts less pressure on my joints, especially my back splitting vertically provided the table is at the correct height. However, each to his own system so good luck to fellow log hounds across the pond.
hi there first thanks for the few . i would like to see yours in action is there a video john
Hi John - it's Big Rodders in Ireland again. I'm only a small time operator now doing about 8 cords for myself and 22 cords for a Tree Surgeon annually. I used to do 200 cords p.a. until an old knee injury forced me to slow down. I use an Italian Thor 8 1/2 ton electric vertical splitter for 12 inch pieces and could handle your diameter logs. If I can lift the log it will split it without fail. I believe that with log splitting, cycle time is more important than the rated tonnage of a machine, which most people rant on about. Check out the Thor website. While slower than yours, if I can keep the ram moving at all times I make consistent progress and get a good workout. I too use a leather apron and also welders' leather sleeves to avoid the dreaded resin from softwoods.
@@rodneysweetnam8653 always go to hear from everyone i will check that web out . always looking to learn on how to make things easier john
Gotta love the Onan engines , nice quiet little fellers . Great video . Thanks
well i don't mean to be mean . Its a Kohlar . but i do have an Onan in my mower i got in 84 looks the same and runs has well thanks john
@@fricknjeep Well I guess my eyes aren't that sharp to see the difference , Kohler engines are great also . I was a mechanic on the track working equipment for Union Pacific Railroad and we had about every kind of engines that was made , all of them were good , Deutz I believe was the loudest I ever heard but a good engine . Love your videos , keep them cards and letters coming as we say here in Arkansas . Stay Safe . , Thanks John
@@25vrd48 there is a deutz in the bobcat good engine . 471 on the mill . and now making (up dating ) another splitter with a Hatz john
@@25vrd48 , you must not be old enough that you had to work on V-4 Wisconsin engines!
Those make a person grumpy!
@@haroldphipps3457 Yes Sir I worked for Union Pacific Railroad as a mechanic on the track working equipment . I'm 71 and I hired on in 1971 . Well it was Missouri Pacific Railroad then and they were bought out by Union Pacific . Worked on Briggs & Stratton's all the way up to 8-71T Detroit's . Wisconsin's could be a pain in the rear at time's , it only take's one lesson when working on a magneto to pop it to get it in time , been there done that . One engine that was a bigger pain was an Air Compressor that was a pancake type with 6 cylinder's , 3 being power & 3 being compressor . Air cooled with a starter rope and when they ran they were great but man when they wouldn't start they were a chore to get running . I can't remember the name of them . We had numerous 2-cylinder Wisconsin's with hand crank similar to a Model-T Ford and also the Fairmont Motor Car's . Gotta hold the hand crank handle just right or they would kick back and break a wrist or arm . Gotta have fuel , spark and compression and just because you have those three doesn't mean they will start . Fairmont went to Onan engines after so many decades of the single cylinder engine's that would run forward and for reverse you would kill it and just as it was on it's last rotation you would reverse the timing lever and pull the switch for ignition . Then it would run in reverse . Oh I have million stories I could tell about my railroad career but we won't go there now . Thank's a lot Harold .
Your set up works perfectly for you.
hi there yes it does but my wood splitting has changed over the 50 years and i still look for better or easier ways thank you john
Once I have a tractor and a table, I will have basically your setup. Thanks for confirming my suspicion that the loader on the tractor is by far the best option. I am all set to cut and split in one place, then stack where I split, in order to stop doing any extra work. I can reach the firewood stack and the scraps stack from where I split with the splitter. Nothing is more damn fool than moving the wood any more than it needs to be.
hi there after i split it i put it rite into a box of some sort . it takes a little time to stack it off the splitter but a lot easier then picking it up again off the ground . do you have forks for the tractor and some thing to stack it into john
@@fricknjeep I plan to get forks when I get a tractor, hopefully in the spring. I have a place in the yard I call "The Service Yard," and I take the wood from the trailer there, and finish any cutting, then have to pick it up to put it on the splitter, but from there I can throw it right into the stack it stays in till it is brought in to burn. I have finally just got it set up to hold two years of wood in two bunks on either side of the service yard (till I can get sheds built, tarps coving in the meantime). I will set it up next year so I can just move the splitter from one side of the yard to the other, and spilt and throw the wood right into the empty bunk. This will give me my seasoning as I alternate bunks. I am just working out how to get it unloaded from a trailer and finish cutting anything that needs shortening to 19 inches, and then onto a laoder bucket without having the pile of wood in the way in the service yart to reach the back of the logsplitter. Once that logistic is worked out, I think I will be as efficient as you are! I have seen a lot of people on youtube splitting wood, and yours is the most efficient method I have seen! Thanks for showing that sanity and cleverness prevails!
@@MrKelseyB you may want to think about green house plastic . the sun doesn't brake id down . i found that it lasts a lot longer . but there are no eyelet in them . i was thinking on what to do a video on that is a good idea john
@@fricknjeep Yeah! Can slap a couple scrap pieces of wood on top to hold it down for cheap! Nice one! Thanks!
To each their own. Anyone who is of the opinion that their way is the only and the best way are the ones who get people hurt or worse.
Ah yes. I bet that would work good if I ever get to a stationary spot for the splitter. I might try just using the bucket on the tractor as the table. Thanks.
You have a system and it works for you. "If it ain't broke.........."
Maybe you could invest in one those little wind noise sponge covers things for your microphone. All the best.
for me i have to remember no to make a video on a windy day . i use a 5 year old camera
THANK YOU!
Looks like the same motor thats on my welder. Often thought about building a manifold and putting a real muffler on it.
that pickaroon is one of the best things to have around wood i have several one on each tractor i use in the woods and one on my woodsplitter frompeavey in maine one has a small axe head welded on the back real handy for limbs or slivers
That sucker is fast. I'm courious.
I liked you ran it half speed so I could keep up.
Made it back in 1972 didn't know what i was doing ( no confuser to watch ) also single speed i doesn't slow in a split john
Where did you buy your pickaroon? Looks to be very handy. Love the table idea.
some from forestry suppliers and eBay . i will try to but a y/t on them . some i don't really care for . john
Getcha one of them log processors that only does 16 inch logs. Lol.
Been there i don't like them ruclips.net/video/_h1TjSewal4/видео.html
thanks, i'd like to make my wedge as tall as yours.. how many ton is your splitter?
it is about 7 ton , it was built to go fast , thanks for dropping in john
This guy has it figured out
thank you john
Yep, that thing is fast. I'll look through your old videos to see if you tell us about it, if not you should show us.
there are some in the past not sure witch one would answer what your looking for . let me know john
Pretty cool log splitter there did you build it yourself?
back in 1972 john
Your a pitbull and I love it.
thanks john
interesting video, can I suggest you use ear protection though :)
Just found your video like it
How about adding a light tension spring to return the valve lever should you ever get pinched from twisted grain?
well ill tell ya . its been doing darn good sense i made it in 1972 . i think i might leave it alone . but i am working on another one with a Hatz diesel might think about john
it goes back hydraulically i dont understand a spring . go slow I'm old and stupid thanks john
@@fricknjeep On this video I sometimes see your right hand between the platen and don't see the left hand position. But I won't argue with success since 1972.
@@fricknjeep Must it complete a full stroke after forward travel is started? If so forget a spring to reverse the travel.
@@waynespyker5731 hi there i push the lever back to go forward may be confusing .
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you got that rite john
If you use premium gas it does not have methanol in it it is all i use i don't have any problems. i have a 2004 Chevy truck with 160 thousand miles on it and it has never been tuned up and runs fine it is a lot cleaner burning fuel i use it in all my small engines
that is all i ever use . are you in maryland john
@@fricknjeep South Carolina were men are men and women look like men so you have to be careful
Wind noise is crazy. You should put the camera in a protected thingy do. Thanks
i am not that advance yet . it was bad john
How do you get the wood stack up there rather then leave on ground and bring splitter to pile?
hi there take the bucket to the wood , then i can get it from anywhere . it stops WSMG . ruclips.net/video/1h5RsEaTZJc/видео.html JOHN
I seldom use a mechanical splitter, but when I do I find the ones with the wedge on the ram require much less operator work. Easier positioning of the rounds that need resplit. Occasional putting the stuck wedge stripper block on the beam beats wrestling every piece multiple times.
well there was nothing to go by back in 1972 when i built it and it has worked well for me . what ever works best for the user is the best . john
😆log lift is a waist?!🤦♂️ Does that table move with the splitter? you know what I see as a waist is no catch table. And if I need that much mechanized equipment to cut and move wood I’d burn just petroleum products😆 this is too funny!
a large amount of people that do wood already have a loader . i quest its a chicken egg thing witch came first . when i built my first splitter in 1972 everyone thought i was crazy , now look at all the splitters . i have made a lot of progress in my wood splitting and tried a lot of things that just didn't work . petroleum and electric tools are the way . do you use a gas mower drive a car or walk to work and use a push mower . i do watch the cost of fuel oil and have hour meters on all my furnaces . i use 850 gallons of fuel oil per year average . thats not heating my shop 2 garages hot water or green house . at 1.60 gal i may fuel oil 3 years ago it was 4.58 a gal . i could go on thank you for your thoughts john
@@fricknjeep I understand and like you I am a fabricator. You have some years on me but I’ve be around long enough to know what works and what doesn’t. My uncles were all tradesmen that taught me a lot along with all the hands on experience I’ve gained at my past and current jobs.
I don’t use any oil, gas or electricity to space heat or heat potable water. Haven’t since I built my gasification boiler in ‘07. So what are you using the wood for?
I think you’ll like my next fabrication project. It’s a wood splitter. I’ll leave it at that. Hope to have a video out in a week or two.
@@garny3766 i look forward to it , i built my first boiler about 30 years ago . i heat a 6000 house 2 car and 1 car garage downstairs hot water a shop and a small green house . . a cord a week . there are some old videos of it on my channel when i up dated the thing john
@@fricknjeep it’s looks like it’s based off of the old greenwood boiler. If you haven’t check out Garn. My opinion the highest efficiency simplist to operate. That’s what I modeled mine after. It’s built into a 1500 gal dairycool bulk tank. I burn all year. Doesn’t matter if it is -40f or 100, it burns the same. No creosote, no fire cycling. Fire burns wide open till woods gone or draft fan timer expires. So clean it has a horizontal flue. Only draw back is it’s an open system. Next one is going to be built out of a pressure vessel. Had a line on a propane truck tank but fell thru.
@@garny3766 i just went and looked at it . i had seen them before anything that saves money is good . mine started as a spencer return tube coal fired . paid 50 bucks at an auction new . . back 30 year ago or so it was just scrap to everyone . the boiler idea had not really taken off yet . john
Yeah, you can tell this guy has been splitting wood a long time and figured stuff out. Most RUclipsr's get on here showing they don't have a clue HOW to work. This home built splitter has several features in addition to the work table.
The pump on it is WAY oversized compared to most splitters....that is what gives that fast cycle time. Commercial splitter makers would probably get sued out of business if they did that, "too fast" for the average idiot to handle....aahhahahaaa
Then notice the control handle (hard to see, he is blocking it most of the time)....the handle, which is not a piece of cheap metal connected with a stupid linkage that wears out, is positioned so he barely has to turn/move to access it, and has a big hunk of metal on the hand end that is not only easy to grab, but likely acts as a counter weight so it takes almost no effort to move it.
The wedge is huge compared to most splitters. Lot of times you'll see folks having to take a big round, run it once, not split thru, then pull it back, flip, run again before it will cleave in half.....not with this wedge !
And finally, he loads the split wood directly into baskets eliminating handling again after split, where most throw it on the ground, handling at least once more if not twice.....efficiency born of working with wood a LONG time. Unfortunately, most RUclipsrs will just see an old handmade splitter instead of a fancy, over priced paint job, and not appreciate what is really being shown here.
You know there is a difference between waist and waste?
yes the way the letters are . I am a dumb old retired janitor with a 4th grade education . not an english teacher . you understood SO WHY DOES IT REALLY MATTER thank you john
Really, watching his video he thinks lot people just have front end loaders with bucket on it, Really why don't you donate one to me, I got cut wood rounds put on my 2-wheel dolly and haul them to side splitter then bust my balls and pick them up, after days work I need my dog to walk on my power back to message it, can't find decent woman that can help me out.
You're handling your split pieces twice. Waste of time there, too. Split small piece toward you, address the need of that piece and put it in the appropriate bin at that time. Don't move it to the table just to move it again.
hi there i think you are right . i will have to pay more attention to that the next time i split , there must be a reason but not sure why thanks john
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Hey there fj, I was about to rip you a new one for your intro, because it seemed that you were badmouthing every other way of splitting firewood but yours. I decided to read the comments before going off half cocked and noted your respect for the critics of your way of doing things and that calmed me right down. That said (and this is not a criticism), but you do seem to be handling the wood more than you need to by not making the small splits on your side. I can also see why you do that, because a still very large part of the wood is pushed forward of the wedge and would be hard to retrieve. Like you said in the beginning “whatever works for you” and your system clearly does work for you. That said, a live table top bringing the large split piece back would work but would probably not be worth the effort. Could all be mechanical though where the forward movement of the ram moves the live tabletop and the return stroke brings it back 🤔 With the speed of your machine though, that could be a little dicey. I’m 77 and built my setup 7 years ago because I was getting to old to lift those heavy rounds; much different setup than yours but is very adequate for my needs. Very efficient set up you have there for your needs as well and I enjoyed watching your video!
Dude, the word you want is WASTE. Waist is your midsection.
i don't even have a 4 th grade education . i have never red a book . the only thing worst then my spelling is my typing . then the confuser changes just about every other thing . i will be 70 on my next birthday . you understood rite write it this point in life do you really think i kare . thank you for your coment john
If you never move your splitter a table makes perfect sense. I have a landscaping trailer that I take to pick up wood, and the gate when horizontal makes a nice table that is the same level as the splitter. For the cheap ones among us that tend to take the splitter to the trees. I find 'free' wood on craigs list - folks wanting dead trees removed - from their woodlots - guys with 5 acres on the side of a hill. Far West St. Louis County is full of places like that. Nothing to damage, and they just want the brush dumped in a gulley. Often there is just a pickup truck or two of wood just a few miles from home, so I just take the saw and splitter An in expensive mechanical log lifter works well. An example: ruclips.net/video/fezL0XhG4vo/видео.html
i think you r rite in that case john now i am going to watch that link thanks john