Fit is important. I just got fit for my annual driver head change. Tested these two along with G430LST and Aerojet LS. The Paradigm TD won it for me quite convincingly. It was close to the Ping in terms of forgiveness. But Ping could not match the other variables. The Stealth I found very unforgiving for me. It was the worst of the bunch followed closely by the Cobra. The paradigm is supposed to be a less forgiving driver, but my results were better than standard head. I prefer small drivers and often play the TM 300 mini driver on short, tight courses , so size for me goes the other way. I just find middle of the face better on smaller heads. My SS is around 110-115, Ventus Black 6X in all
Some people prefer the smaller more compact head and even though the Triple Diamond is 450cc which you would think is going to be less forgiving it really is not. Same applied with the Rogue ST Triple Diamond model last year. Sounds like you have a great setup! - Thomas
Low spin isn't for everyone but if you are a player that needs to bring the spin down it's nice to know a certain model can help even if it's a couple hundred rpms - Thomas
Hey Thomas glad I found this channel, with Rory comments about stealth 2 and Colin going with the Sim at the players… could you compare the sim, sim2, stealth and stealth 2 models. Curious to see their evolution. I game the sim2 and tried the stealth and didn’t see much of a difference. Thank you!
Hi Thomas & Ian great to see you back Nice test with 2 different swing speeds & different lofts, great comparison test👍, good luck with the channel Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer UK
Great to see you on YT Thomas and Ian! Definitely subbing and looking forward to more content as the channel grows! I've hit them both and it's the TM all the way........
You have the heavy weight forward or back in the Paradym 3D? That makes a tremendous difference in that club. Put that heavy weight back and add some spin.
The issue with that low spin on a cut is it becomes unmanageable when you turn it over. 1700 becomes 1200 far too easy. 2100 on a draw is useable on the course. I’d say that’s a win for the Stealth 2 Plus.
Very valid point. This is why when I hit, I needed more loft to keep the spin up with the moderate club speed. Sub 1800 you probably would want to consider the Stealth 2 or Paradym which are not as low spinning - Thomas.
Spin is control and the spin was lower with the Paradym which does affect dispersion, along with user error. You will have to weigh distance v dispersion and find what works best for every golfer - Thomas
Question if i may, Is the Epoxy behind the Carbon face going to be a concern? Yes there have been cases and yes under warranty they have been given a new driver BUT when the warranty runs out and said glue oozes out the club is a throw away.
Great suggestion! Haven't had a chance to hit the new Srixon or Cobra drivers yet as we have been working hard on opening, but this is on the short list! - Thomas
If you really want to improve, instead of spending $600 on a driver that will do little, if anything to improve your distances or accuracy, spend the $600 you were ready to spend on 1 club & spend it on lessons instead. You'll certainly get more for your money.
I suggest considering over speed training. With commitment to the program you can pick up several mphs in a few weeks! It's not always about club speed if you are really efficient on the strike and attack angle you can pick up distance without feeling like you need to swing out of your shoes - Thomas
I love this comment. Unfortunately after 37 years I am not sure that will change, RUclips even had to correct my spelling when writing "furtherest" in the description. But hey it got you to comment on our video 🙂 - Thomas
Thomas- so glad to find this channel. Popped up in my recommended after wondering where you were in second swing vid’s. Congrats on the new gig!
Good to hear you found our channel through RUclips recommendations! Thank you - Thomas
THOOOOOMAAAAASSSS!!! There you are!! 👀
🙂Thanks for watching! Glad you found the channel - Thomas
I'm glad to have Thomas back doing videos like these. Hopefully, this move is best for him, and the old crew.
Glad you found this channel! Let us know what type of videos you would like to see? - Thomas
So happy to see Thomas reviewing clubs, good luck.
Thank you. Glad you found my new channel, let us know what other reviews you would like to see - Thomas
@@swinglabperformancegolf ZX5 Mkii LS driver please, at 100mph and 120mph ss
I was wondering where you were. Good to see you again 👍🏾
Thomas!! Love finding this!!
Thanks for watching! Stay tuned for more videos, and always let us know what you want to see - Thomas
Congratulations Thomas. I was wondering where you were. Good luck with this and the PGA this year.
Fit is important. I just got fit for my annual driver head change. Tested these two along with G430LST and Aerojet LS. The Paradigm TD won it for me quite convincingly. It was close to the Ping in terms of forgiveness. But Ping could not match the other variables. The Stealth I found very unforgiving for me. It was the worst of the bunch followed closely by the Cobra. The paradigm is supposed to be a less forgiving driver, but my results were better than standard head. I prefer small drivers and often play the TM 300 mini driver on short, tight courses , so size for me goes the other way. I just find middle of the face better on smaller heads. My SS is around 110-115, Ventus Black 6X in all
Some people prefer the smaller more compact head and even though the Triple Diamond is 450cc which you would think is going to be less forgiving it really is not. Same applied with the Rogue ST Triple Diamond model last year. Sounds like you have a great setup! - Thomas
I miss the matte finish on both drivers but the numbers don't lie. I need that low spin in my life!
Low spin isn't for everyone but if you are a player that needs to bring the spin down it's nice to know a certain model can help even if it's a couple hundred rpms - Thomas
I think you can order matte finish custom for $100 extra directly from TM. I like matte too!
Thomas here! Welcome back
Hey Thomas glad I found this channel, with Rory comments about stealth 2 and Colin going with the Sim at the players… could you compare the sim, sim2, stealth and stealth 2 models. Curious to see their evolution. I game the sim2 and tried the stealth and didn’t see much of a difference. Thank you!
This has been the one I’ve been waiting for.
Thanks for watching. Was this the type of results you were expecting? - Thomas
@@swinglabperformancegolf yes. Really liked the 2 different swing speeds for a range of golfers.
Hi Thomas & Ian great to see you back Nice test with 2 different swing speeds & different lofts, great comparison test👍, good luck with the channel Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer UK
Thanks for watching! What video would you like to see next? - Thomas
Great to see you on YT Thomas and Ian! Definitely subbing and looking forward to more content as the channel grows! I've hit them both and it's the TM all the way........
And wait until you hit the standard Stealth fairway - Reminds me of my old V-Steel with more pop!
To most people, I’d say they are more worried about forgiveness and control over 5 yds of distance..
Probably the opposite
You have the heavy weight forward or back in the Paradym 3D? That makes a tremendous difference in that club. Put that heavy weight back and add some spin.
The issue with that low spin on a cut is it becomes unmanageable when you turn it over. 1700 becomes 1200 far too easy. 2100 on a draw is useable on the course. I’d say that’s a win for the Stealth 2 Plus.
Very valid point. This is why when I hit, I needed more loft to keep the spin up with the moderate club speed. Sub 1800 you probably would want to consider the Stealth 2 or Paradym which are not as low spinning - Thomas.
Great review Thomas, Please test the new torch C723 driver against these 2DriversI think people are gonna be shocked !!!
Tour edge C-723
Lol where in the world did Thomas go? Not gonna watch the video or sub but at least your not dead
Something about those Tour Edge drivers... We will get this on the items to include - Thomas
@@benmartinez8995 Still in the land of the living, new position - Thomas
That would be great, They've been out I believe 3 weeks and nobody on RUclips has tested them yet It's hard to figure out !!
Ian uses the ground so powerfully in his swing. Wonder how good his swing catalyst numbers are
Thomas, are you not with 2nd Swing Minnetonka anymore? Miss your videos.
Seems to me you guys were both all over the place with the Callaway. Am I wrong?
Spin is control and the spin was lower with the Paradym which does affect dispersion, along with user error. You will have to weigh distance v dispersion and find what works best for every golfer - Thomas
Not wrong at all. Stealth clearly stood out in this test and frankly TM has the driver to beat.
Question if i may, Is the Epoxy behind the Carbon face going to be a concern? Yes there have been cases and yes under warranty they have been given a new driver BUT when the warranty runs out and said glue oozes out the club is a throw away.
Great video boyz
How was the triple diamond compared to your rogue st triple diamond?
When is 105mph "slow swing speed?" You move it out over 320 yards in Denver with that speed..
“Furtherest”😂
can you do a comparison stealth HD paradym X ping g430 HD stock shafts
Should have compared the same loft.
would like to see something like this with the aerojet ls vs the srixon ls vs ping ls with these two swing speeds
Great suggestion! Haven't had a chance to hit the new Srixon or Cobra drivers yet as we have been working hard on opening, but this is on the short list! - Thomas
If you really want to improve, instead of spending $600 on a driver that will do little, if anything to improve your distances or accuracy, spend the $600 you were ready to spend on 1 club & spend it on lessons instead. You'll certainly get more for your money.
I wish I had his slow swing speed swing as my fast swing.
I suggest considering over speed training. With commitment to the program you can pick up several mphs in a few weeks! It's not always about club speed if you are really efficient on the strike and attack angle you can pick up distance without feeling like you need to swing out of your shoes - Thomas
Good video any chance doing g430 LST and aerojet LS? Same test?
Thanks for the suggestion! This would be a great comparison! - Thomas
That bunker in the bottom left is suspect
Thomas, I love you and your videos. But it's furthest, not furtherest lol. Makes me cringe every time. Just messing with you, great video as always!
I love this comment. Unfortunately after 37 years I am not sure that will change, RUclips even had to correct my spelling when writing "furtherest" in the description. But hey it got you to comment on our video 🙂 - Thomas
It’s a New Zealand/Australian thing. They like to make up words. Mericans never forgit howe ta spell ur pernounse werds.
Very few balls in play at the end… not ready for TPC saw grass!
I really don't get how every reviewer talks about the sounds. Who cares on the noise a driver makes.Just saying 😁
Tee height as well.