Great content! I’m Kazakh. Germans and Kazakhs at the beginning lived in one villages and Kazakhs spoke German language, Germans spoke Kazakh language but later in 70 communists forbid to speak German everywhere so they started to speak Russian. But still exists villages with Germans who speak German language everyday. Kazakhs and Germans are more friendly to each other compare to other many nations in Kazakhstan.
My Grandma gave my uncle sometimes to the kazakh neighbor when he was a baby. The kazakh women breast feeded him. Today we say that he is now 10% Kazakh 😂 Kazakh helped much. Many would starve in the first years winter if the kazakhs didn't helped them. They saw us as Family and not as foreigners. They learnd from us, we from them. We are still eating beshbarmak in Germany.❤
I truly love your channel. You always find interesting topics. Have a honest unbiased point of view and a great narrative. Ta a lot. Keep up the great job
You are now covering literally everything I'm interested in♥, lovely video as always, would be nice if you make videos on Europe's current immigration criseees too
It's fascinating to see where Germans migrated to in history. There were big groups moving to North America, South America, Central Asia (both Russia and Kazakhstan), Hungary, Romania etc... One of the biggest German celebrities today, Helene Fischer, was born in Russia as a child of Russian Germans
Thank you for the Video i am bye my Fahter Sides Descendants from Cacasus Germans. They were treated exactly like the Volga Germans. My Family treated exactly as described in the Video. Thank you for the Video. I know we will Always be forgotten in Europe an History. I would also like to Point out thaht some Germans did not see us as being of equal social value as a whole from the beginning of the 1990s to 2010. They called us Nichtländer that means No landers or Non nationals or Russki. It wasn't a large part of the Germans who did that, was also the older ones who did it. Nevertheless, you had the feeling that you were a foreigner and that somehow you weren't part of the German people. Of course, things have a lott gotten better, even though because of the Ukraine war there was another Division because a large part of the older Volga Germans were on Putin's side and were still under the influence of the Soviet and todays Russian Propagandisten. It is often said that we are too Russian for the Germans and too German for the Russians. I was able to contribute that, I'm sorry if my English is difficult to read, it's only my third language and i'm bad at it, but i just wanted to say and Thank you.
Thank you for another thought provoking presentation. Yes, nothing is black or white. It’s “okay” to say that Germans were also victims. Throughly agree with your views on Communism. You as a linguist can perhaps elaborate on “evil/ evil-er/ evil-est” - yea, I know they are not real words. Soviet Union, especially during Stalin period, was probably on par with atrocities committed by the Nazis.
You are right, this political correctness that we have here in the west that the nazis are the top of evil and have to be jailed but the communists fight for the rights of the working class and can have their political representation, this cracks me up.
@@ezzovonachalm9815 thank you for that. Sometimes, in my head, I know what I want to write but once I’ve posted a comment. I realise I didn’t quite express myself as I’d hoped to.
I know a man that was born in a gulag in Siberia. He moved in Romania after communism fell, but he says he is siberian with pride and talks a lot about how nice is the coulture there, how well people behave and how cold it is.
Note he says siberian not russian. I guess his family wasnt accepted as russians. Communists send his parents to siberia in order to protect them from the nazis, because a romanian orthodox priest machinegunned his grandfather. Wich is crazy to believe an orthodox priest could do such a thing but his grandfather was a communist and the church hated communists.
@@BenLlywelyn Yea, and he dreams to visit his parrents house in Siberia wich he left to some relatives . He got relatives there because these people married with the locals. There is no law there he says, no police, just common sence and a friendly, caring community that takes care of you if you get in trouble, but tough conditions and cold. Similar to Alaska, you have to eat what you hunt or fish and if you didnt caught nothing, the comunity brings you a deer or fish, wheat. Considering its the gulag in Siberia, he talks very nice about it.
Some Germans moved to Russia after 1991 and some even returned from Germany to Kazakhstan and Russia because they weren't that accustomed to the German way of life - it's too much ordnung for them. There are even a term of Russlanddeutsche - the Russian Germans, who are the core of Putin's support in Germany (and not the new Russian emigrants). They kinda like Russia but are preferring Germany purely because the economics here is better. They're also the core of AfD voting base. The fact is - life for the ordinary German (just like Russian and everybody else) got a lot better after Stalin and people seem to forget the bad sides of communism, leaving free education, free healthcare, subsidized housing, cheap even if not top notch food in mind.
Saratov and nearby territories, Turkic lands that were captured by Russia. To this day, Kazakhs live on these lands and are the indigenous inhabitants of these lands. The Russian tsars resettled the Germans there not to develop agriculture, but to create a buffer zone between the Turkic peoples. All the settlers were promised lands taken from the indigenous people. The Kazakh poet of the 19th century, Murat Monkeuli, described the events in his song as follows: "...Edildi tartyp algany - Etekke koldy salgany. Zhaiykty tartyp algany - Zhagaga koldy salgany" "...Aueli zhenip orys Edildi aldy, Sarytau, Ashtarkhanna zherin aldy, Artynan Yedilden son, Naryndy aldy" It was the loss of these lands that was the main reason why the Kazakhs supported the Pugachev uprising, and also participated in the Salavat Yulaev uprising. They promised to return these lands to the Kazakhs. Also, the loss of these lands is mourned by the Nogai people, in the old song "Ne Kaldy" (translated as "what's left?").
Some of the Volga Germans who lived in Saratov knew the Kazakh language. Therefore, during the deportation of Germans to Kazakhstan, they quickly assimilated with the local Kazakhs According to my grandmother, they were moved to an aul near Semipalatinsk. In winter, they were brought in boxcars and thrown out into the steppe. Local residents began to take people to their homes. The village was not big, but there were a lot of Germans. In the evening, people were already confused and did not know if they had managed to distribute everyone to their homes. At night, the Kazakhs, after consulting, decided to send a couple of young guys there on a sledge to check. When they returned to the village, they said that they had found two families in the snow: one whole family had died, unable to withstand the cold. The second family consisted of an old man and his two grandchildren. Trying to keep them from the cold, he lay on top of them and froze to death. The youngest grandson died - either suffocated, or from the cold. Only the eldest survived. But the fate of the survivor is not known: Russian children called him a fascist at the school where he began to go, for which he fought, and he had to be transferred to another boarding school. Since then, traces of it have been lost.
To some extent I think we're the good guys just by our meaning well. More accurately, good intentions are an essential part of whatever it takes to make up the core of a passably good guy. And maybe passably good is a good enough start? A journey of approximately fifteen steps (to the beer in the fridge, obviously) starts with a single step. Otherwise one would fall flat on one's face during the second step, for not having taken the first. I think I'm beginning to make a hash of what might've turned into quite a passably good point, in a world that might even truly be Mostly Harmless. Let me rather tell you, then, that my cousin in Germany's Haußmeister (janitor, kind of?) is a Kazakh German, and that he's a very kind man. For instance last time I visited there we were on our way to go and buy a fridge, and then somehow move it several blocks and up some flights of stairs after that, and ended up in Herr Gutenfreund's Wohnung. I think we were meant to borrow the sack barrow there or something. As it turned out, he insisted that we just take his second fridge instead. Nothing wrong with it. It's still going strong, I hear, so this was just generosity. (Most of my cousin's furniture was given to him to this nice gentleman with the hopefully nice pseudonym, here. The other stuff came from the Russians up on the top floor, who one day just upped and vanished, and left everything behind. My cousin needed stuff, so he got whatever he wanted before the rest went out on the street in the usual way, so the flat could be let to the next people.) Actually he's even looked after my cousin's tarantulas, and he's arachnophobic, so he's a real saint by most standards. They need to be fed live crickets, and they hit them hard enough for this to be scary. Also they're prone to escape, so there's often one missing somewhere in the flat. Who knows where? Not so easy to fall asleep in a flat that's being patrolled by a huge escaped tarantula. Exhaustion usually works quite well, though. You can only lie there with eyes wide open, and sheets pulled up to the nostrils for so long. I seem to be making a hash of this, too. Better stop while I'm ahead. Or not too far behind, maybe.
@@BenLlywelyn :D Except that they're good at finding hiding places, and the alternative is to go and sleep outside in the rain if the tarantula murder option is thus not available (actually if it is, too, come to think of it, in a flat where it's a "pet"). The trick with spiders is to get a glass, and a sheet of paper (or thin cardboard if available). Put the glass over the spider, slide the paper under its feet, get a good grip on everything so that in the end you don't land up with a spider on you and broken glass all over the floor at your feet, and then carry the spider in its glass to a more suitable place for a spider - so outside if it's local, "Houdini cage" if it's a pet. Pull away the paper and jump back if nervous. End of problem. If a tumbler feels like it brings the spider too close, use a wine glass.
Wow I learned a lot from this video. Superb Ben, and wholeheartedly agree with you point. Such a shame, this ideology is like a religion, it occupies the same headspace so it seems.
Such ideology is no more, reneged by its very last ostensible enforcers themselves. Its opposite, on the contrary, is very much alive and never felt better since 1945.
My family are Volga Germans who came to the USA in the late 1800s. I recently learned the ones who stayed went to Kazakhstan. My family continued to communicate with their relatives in Russia up until Stalin took power. Then they disappeared. They were assumed dead. I wonder if any made it to Kazakhstan. I also didn't know about the Right of Return. Now I have some new research to do.
1:36 Prussia did allow for religious freedom from the mid 18th century under Frederick the Great. "Jeder soll nach seiner Fasson selig werden." This religious freedom was put into Prussian law in the late 18th century. Other German states, however, were not as religiously tolerant. 9:06 By (West) German law, the Germans in Kazakhstan always had the right of return to Germany, however, leaving the USSR was the problem.
Even more compelling than religious freedom, the exemption from military service was extremely important. They originally left the German states (and western France and Holland) because of constant wars and forced conscription. In the U.S., everybody knows about the Hessian conscripts in the British army during the revolution. In 1878, the Czar revoked military exemption which then caused German immigration from Russia to the Americas. There are still communities of Volga Deutsch in Canada, Brazil, the U.S. and Argentina.
The R1b "Germans" are Yamnayans in origin, and that is the reason they live in Kazakhstan, or maybe they want to return to Kazakhstan. The ones with haplogroup I are basically from the Wartberg culture and hence Basque in origin. I want to return to the Caucasus mountains and nobody can hold me back.
Hi, I love your channel and your mostly tame takes on most things. The biggest problem I have is that you treat the soviets as if they actually followed socialist ideals, they did not. There were much more tame socialist/social-democratic governments throughout history which were actually good for their people and far less corrupt and authoritarian than the soviet and soviet-like governments in Europe and Asia. Stalin, Mao, The Kims, and let's not even mention the Khmer Rogue, etc. were authoritarian nutters, unrelated to their supposed communism. They led (and are leading in the case of North Korea) governments which are/were based on personality cults and used for personal gain of the dictator and their surroundings while actively hurting their people. That is not what socialism stands for, that is not what Marx had in mind. A proper social government would basically a government with high income tax for the higher middle class and above, low to none income tax for lower incomes, and a system to spread this money back to the people in the form of government aid, social programs, and infrastructure, among other things. Additionally, almost nothing related to running the country would be private-owned. And now while this is not true Marxism, this would certainly be called socialism. What you call socialism, what you demonize like an American politician in the 60s, is a spit in the face of socialism, and while I do not mind you criticizing it, I do mind the fact you call it socialism, as if it is all the socialism that ever was, is, or will be.
Great content! I'd like to know more about minorities in soviet era. I know there are also manu Ukrainians in north Kazakhstan. And how are doing Germans in Kazakhstan today? I'm also interested about Khazarian kganatate and peoples living ther after these lands were occupied by Russia.
They're confused and think they're originally from the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex, when they clearly aren't. In my opinion, Kazakhstan also belongs to the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex, not only Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan. I don't even know if Tajikistan belongs to the BMAC complex, to be honest. Kazakhstan could be Scythian or Yamnayan in origin instead of BMAC, so it could make a lot more sense. ALSO: There is a difference between the Afanasievo culture and the Yamnaya culture, and the world should know it.
We used to have 900,000 thousand Germans in Kazakhstan. Now there are more than 200,000 thousand left, most of them have emigrated to Germany. So, there is no need to invent it. In terms of population where there is a German diaspora, Kazakhstan ranks first among Muslim countries.
I have been voting with my feet all my life. On my fifth country so far. I give a lot, but when the country wants 'to take' what is more than fair it's time to go.
The Volga-German communities kind of prospered in the 19th century, although Russia had become more nationalistic. Their population grew, the economy developed, their agriculture got more productive. Their hardship really only began in 1917. The Bolsheviks sent out food requiration squads to feed the urban centers where they had their power bases and they took away everything from the rural population. And those squads especially liked to confiscate the harvest of the German villages, simply because there was more to steal there. Until the the end of the Civil War 1921 about 20% of the Volga-German settlers had starved to death. The whole Volga-German Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic was more of a cover up after this horrible famine. And the worst years, with all the expropriations and deportations were just to come later in the 1930ies and 40ies. So no, hardship didn't start with Stalin. Already Lenin was a catastrophy for them.
Hello, I hope you see my comment in the Middle Eastern Languages section, and please do not listen to anyone who says do not put up the flag of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, because Saudi Arabia is the origin of the Arabic language, and some of the greatest books on the Arabic language revealed the Qur’an, as well as the Seven Mu’allaqat, and countries such as Egypt, Al-Irq, the Levant, Morocco, and others spoke the Arabic language after the conquest. They were conquered by Khalid bin Al-Walid, Amr bin Al-Aas and others, and the conquerors were from the Arabian Peninsula, specifically from Saudi Arabia🇸🇦
Rußlanddeutsche are the last normal germans in Germany. I am an italian Volksdeutscher who married a polish with a mother born in Kazakistan. Her cousins are with german ancestors by the father side. They are simply great workers and persons. They still believe in God, in family, and in the Heimat. Between us we speak german and we agree about the big problems of Germany. What are those problems? The ignorance on the power, the leftists, the mass immigration, the American rule of the policy, and the corruption of the morality. We are considered Nazis, fascists, xenophobic, homophobic and bad people. But we are normal into a sick system. Germany is simply like Titanic, and sooner or later, it will fall into the black hole of history.
@BenLlywelyn the last radical change was during the 30s...remember that if germans will be in poverty, you'll see the dark side of the germans. It's clear that now the industry is collapsing. The leftist government is doing an economical suicide. Do you know why? Because the green laws and the big costs for the work and energy put all the industries to delocalize productions abroad as like in Poland or Romania for example, where the costs are 1/3 or less compared Germany. But it's not just this. Mass immigration is changing society and the security of the entire nation. Do you know that crimes are done for 80% by people with a foreign background? The Rußlanddeutsche are like italian germans because far from the rieducation decided by allies after WWII. We are talking clearly while germans have to think in silence to be not judged or punished. Sooner or later, their will explode, and the past could return. Be sure that if that happens, the situation will not be properly positive for many people. But you can't say that germans this time are wrong. EU is a structure without a sense where laws don't are the same from Helsinki to Malta or from Lisboa to Bucarest. EU favorites the melting pot and the dumping into the welfare state of each country. Sooner or later, the EU will implode on this. Personally, I want to vote for someone who wants italexit and the end of this criminal place where the lobbies decide our future and our way of life.
This is pure bullshit. Where is the origin of german people? It's on the north of Black Sea , on... Volga! The age of migration push part of them in the middle of Europe and to the north where they become Christians and ancestors of the actuals Germans, Danish, Norwegians etc. But other part remain in the Volga and in... Crimeea. (The Gothic Church disapeared when Russia anexed this teritory. ) Those from the Volga part of them embraced Mozaism on Khazar rule. The khazars was originally turkish people but they was assimikated by those german speakers. This is the origin of yidish.If you search where was Itil the capital of Khazars you will see that it was also on Volga.
...nice video..,and videos..,you said it right..,between black and white, so many nuances ..,but whatever the nuance..,pretty much everything has been brought at the vomiting stage..,terms, concepts ,ideologies..,you name it..,and your comments..,tone and mimic 😊 is wrapping your ideas in that romantic and laconic message I believe is much more appropriate after such a long time until you give "verdicts "..,makes you look engaged, or naiv or on payroll..,keep it romantic, ironic..,and you might qualify for an Oscar..
why don't you say that Kazakhs themselves were slaves and when Germans, Koreans, Chechens, etc. were deported to Kazakh steppes and were about to die it's Kazakhs who helped them sharing last food
Yes, about 172 000 ethnic Koreans from the Far-Eastern parts of the USSR were deported to Kazakhstan in 1937. Nobody knows for sure how many died in the process, likely tens of thousands. BTW Have you, by chance, heard about Viktor Tsoi? He was a legendary artist in the rock music scene of the late USSR. Although he was from Leningrad, his father was born in Kazakhstan in a Korean family.
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
They were simply sprinkled in.
Superb.
Brilliant!
LOL!
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@@flimsedom I tip my cap to you
Great content! I’m Kazakh. Germans and Kazakhs at the beginning lived in one villages and Kazakhs spoke German language, Germans spoke Kazakh language but later in 70 communists forbid to speak German everywhere so they started to speak Russian. But still exists villages with Germans who speak German language everyday. Kazakhs and Germans are more friendly to each other compare to other many nations in Kazakhstan.
Friendship is good to hear about. Thank you.
I'm a descendant of Volga Germans. We heard many stories about the Khazaks being good people..
I wish that friendship hadn't been obstructed.
My Grandma gave my uncle sometimes to the kazakh neighbor when he was a baby. The kazakh women breast feeded him. Today we say that he is now 10% Kazakh 😂
Kazakh helped much. Many would starve in the first years winter if the kazakhs didn't helped them. They saw us as Family and not as foreigners. They learnd from us, we from them. We are still eating beshbarmak in Germany.❤
@@czar5692 There is a Kazakh saying: character is nurtured (given) with mother's milk. So he is partly Kazakh 👍
I truly love your channel.
You always find interesting topics. Have a honest unbiased point of view and a great narrative.
Ta a lot. Keep up the great job
I asked myself this very question the other day after seeing a map on this topic. This video answered all my questions!
Glad I answered your questions. Thank you.
your channel is awesome
I'm Israeli, and back in high school I had a friend of that German-Kazakh descent
Todah rabah.
@@BenLlywelyn al lo davar
You are now covering literally everything I'm interested in♥, lovely video as always, would be nice if you make videos on Europe's current immigration criseees too
Very interesting part of history I don’t know nearly enough about. Thank you for sharing!
It's fascinating to see where Germans migrated to in history. There were big groups moving to North America, South America, Central Asia (both Russia and Kazakhstan), Hungary, Romania etc... One of the biggest German celebrities today, Helene Fischer, was born in Russia as a child of Russian Germans
Indeed, many of my own ancestors came to America from Germany.
This is excellent! Thank you for these indie, obscure, forgotten pieces of history.
Thanks for sharing, shared.
Very kind indeed Mr. Leeds!
A very humble and humane way to explain things to the world, my compliments
Thank you my fellow Benjamin.
Great thoughts at the end of the video. You have a new subscriber 👍
Excellent news. Thank you for joining the journey!
Very nice video!
Thank you for the Video i am bye my Fahter Sides Descendants from Cacasus Germans. They were treated exactly like the Volga Germans. My Family treated exactly as described in the Video. Thank you for the Video. I know we will Always be forgotten in Europe an History. I would also like to Point out thaht some Germans did not see us as being of equal social value as a whole from the beginning of the 1990s to 2010.
They called us Nichtländer that means No landers or Non nationals or Russki. It wasn't a large part of the Germans who did that, was also the older ones who did it. Nevertheless, you had the feeling that you were a foreigner and that somehow you weren't part of the German people. Of course, things have a lott gotten better, even though because of the Ukraine war there was another Division because a large part of the older Volga Germans were on Putin's side and were still under the influence of the Soviet and todays Russian Propagandisten.
It is often said that we are too Russian for the Germans and too German for the Russians.
I was able to contribute that, I'm sorry if my English is difficult to read, it's only my third language and i'm bad at it, but i just wanted to say and Thank you.
Your English is fine. Thank you for your experience and letting us know about caucusus Germans.
Thank you for another thought provoking presentation. Yes, nothing is black or white. It’s “okay” to say that Germans were also victims. Throughly agree with your views on Communism. You as a linguist can perhaps elaborate on “evil/ evil-er/ evil-est” - yea, I know they are not real words. Soviet Union, especially during Stalin period, was probably on par with atrocities committed by the Nazis.
You are right, this political correctness that we have here in the west that the nazis are the top of evil and have to be jailed but the communists fight for the rights of the working class and can have their political representation, this cracks me up.
@ EugenKvaterni
The sole difference is the number of victims:
Nazi 6.000.000
"innocent victims. of nasim barbary"
Komunists : 100.000.000 victims
@@ezzovonachalm9815 thank you for that. Sometimes, in my head, I know what I want to write but once I’ve posted a comment. I realise I didn’t quite express myself as I’d hoped to.
I know a man that was born in a gulag in Siberia.
He moved in Romania after communism fell, but he says he is siberian with pride and talks a lot about how nice is the coulture there, how well people behave and how cold it is.
Note he says siberian not russian. I guess his family wasnt accepted as russians.
Communists send his parents to siberia in order to protect them from the nazis, because a romanian orthodox priest machinegunned his grandfather. Wich is crazy to believe an orthodox priest could do such a thing but his grandfather was a communist and the church hated communists.
Born in a Gulag!
Best film title ive heard in a while.
@@BenLlywelyn Yea, and he dreams to visit his parrents house in Siberia wich he left to some relatives . He got relatives there because these people married with the locals.
There is no law there he says, no police, just common sence and a friendly, caring community that takes care of you if you get in trouble, but tough conditions and cold. Similar to Alaska, you have to eat what you hunt or fish and if you didnt caught nothing, the comunity brings you a deer or fish, wheat.
Considering its the gulag in Siberia, he talks very nice about it.
Some Germans moved to Russia after 1991 and some even returned from Germany to Kazakhstan and Russia because they weren't that accustomed to the German way of life - it's too much ordnung for them. There are even a term of Russlanddeutsche - the Russian Germans, who are the core of Putin's support in Germany (and not the new Russian emigrants).
They kinda like Russia but are preferring Germany purely because the economics here is better. They're also the core of AfD voting base.
The fact is - life for the ordinary German (just like Russian and everybody else) got a lot better after Stalin and people seem to forget the bad sides of communism, leaving free education, free healthcare, subsidized housing, cheap even if not top notch food in mind.
Fascinating about AfD. With my clear Jewish leanings, however, I am not so trusting of them given some of their members' words.
A story of emigration first, deportation later. Betrayed hopes and paranoia.
Quite so
Saratov and nearby territories, Turkic lands that were captured by Russia. To this day, Kazakhs live on these lands and are the indigenous inhabitants of these lands.
The Russian tsars resettled the Germans there not to develop agriculture, but to create a buffer zone between the Turkic peoples. All the settlers were promised lands taken from the indigenous people.
The Kazakh poet of the 19th century, Murat Monkeuli, described the events in his song as follows:
"...Edildi tartyp algany -
Etekke koldy salgany.
Zhaiykty tartyp algany -
Zhagaga koldy salgany"
"...Aueli zhenip orys Edildi aldy,
Sarytau, Ashtarkhanna zherin aldy,
Artynan Yedilden son, Naryndy aldy"
It was the loss of these lands that was the main reason why the Kazakhs supported the Pugachev uprising, and also participated in the Salavat Yulaev uprising. They promised to return these lands to the Kazakhs.
Also, the loss of these lands is mourned by the Nogai people, in the old song "Ne Kaldy" (translated as "what's left?").
Some of the Volga Germans who lived in Saratov knew the Kazakh language. Therefore, during the deportation of Germans to Kazakhstan, they quickly assimilated with the local Kazakhs
According to my grandmother, they were moved to an aul near Semipalatinsk. In winter, they were brought in boxcars and thrown out into the steppe. Local residents began to take people to their homes. The village was not big, but there were a lot of Germans. In the evening, people were already confused and did not know if they had managed to distribute everyone to their homes.
At night, the Kazakhs, after consulting, decided to send a couple of young guys there on a sledge to check. When they returned to the village, they said that they had found two families in the snow: one whole family had died, unable to withstand the cold. The second family consisted of an old man and his two grandchildren. Trying to keep them from the cold, he lay on top of them and froze to death. The youngest grandson died - either suffocated, or from the cold. Only the eldest survived. But the fate of the survivor is not known: Russian children called him a fascist at the school where he began to go, for which he fought, and he had to be transferred to another boarding school. Since then, traces of it have been lost.
Russia, in weather and in politics, is a very brutal place.
Great video and a good point
Thank you.
I like Kazakhstan
They must return to their homeland and be safe!!!❤
If they wish to.
Look up the biography of Ernst Reuter head of wolgagerman oblast and later mayor of Berlin
To some extent I think we're the good guys just by our meaning well. More accurately, good intentions are an essential part of whatever it takes to make up the core of a passably good guy. And maybe passably good is a good enough start? A journey of approximately fifteen steps (to the beer in the fridge, obviously) starts with a single step. Otherwise one would fall flat on one's face during the second step, for not having taken the first. I think I'm beginning to make a hash of what might've turned into quite a passably good point, in a world that might even truly be Mostly Harmless.
Let me rather tell you, then, that my cousin in Germany's Haußmeister (janitor, kind of?) is a Kazakh German, and that he's a very kind man. For instance last time I visited there we were on our way to go and buy a fridge, and then somehow move it several blocks and up some flights of stairs after that, and ended up in Herr Gutenfreund's Wohnung. I think we were meant to borrow the sack barrow there or something. As it turned out, he insisted that we just take his second fridge instead. Nothing wrong with it. It's still going strong, I hear, so this was just generosity. (Most of my cousin's furniture was given to him to this nice gentleman with the hopefully nice pseudonym, here. The other stuff came from the Russians up on the top floor, who one day just upped and vanished, and left everything behind. My cousin needed stuff, so he got whatever he wanted before the rest went out on the street in the usual way, so the flat could be let to the next people.)
Actually he's even looked after my cousin's tarantulas, and he's arachnophobic, so he's a real saint by most standards. They need to be fed live crickets, and they hit them hard enough for this to be scary. Also they're prone to escape, so there's often one missing somewhere in the flat. Who knows where? Not so easy to fall asleep in a flat that's being patrolled by a huge escaped tarantula. Exhaustion usually works quite well, though. You can only lie there with eyes wide open, and sheets pulled up to the nostrils for so long. I seem to be making a hash of this, too. Better stop while I'm ahead. Or not too far behind, maybe.
I would not sleep anywhere near a tarantula. It would die.
@@BenLlywelyn :D Except that they're good at finding hiding places, and the alternative is to go and sleep outside in the rain if the tarantula murder option is thus not available (actually if it is, too, come to think of it, in a flat where it's a "pet").
The trick with spiders is to get a glass, and a sheet of paper (or thin cardboard if available). Put the glass over the spider, slide the paper under its feet, get a good grip on everything so that in the end you don't land up with a spider on you and broken glass all over the floor at your feet, and then carry the spider in its glass to a more suitable place for a spider - so outside if it's local, "Houdini cage" if it's a pet. Pull away the paper and jump back if nervous. End of problem.
If a tumbler feels like it brings the spider too close, use a wine glass.
Wow I learned a lot from this video. Superb Ben, and wholeheartedly agree with you point. Such a shame, this ideology is like a religion, it occupies the same headspace so it seems.
Glad you learned and found it entertaining. Diolch (thank you).
Such ideology is no more, reneged by its very last ostensible enforcers themselves.
Its opposite, on the contrary, is very much alive and never felt better since 1945.
My family are Volga Germans who came to the USA in the late 1800s. I recently learned the ones who stayed went to Kazakhstan. My family continued to communicate with their relatives in Russia up until Stalin took power. Then they disappeared. They were assumed dead. I wonder if any made it to Kazakhstan. I also didn't know about the Right of Return. Now I have some new research to do.
1:36 Prussia did allow for religious freedom from the mid 18th century under Frederick the Great. "Jeder soll nach seiner Fasson selig werden." This religious freedom was put into Prussian law in the late 18th century. Other German states, however, were not as religiously tolerant. 9:06 By (West) German law, the Germans in Kazakhstan always had the right of return to Germany, however, leaving the USSR was the problem.
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Even more compelling than religious freedom, the exemption from military service was extremely important. They originally left the German states (and western France and Holland) because of constant wars and forced conscription. In the U.S., everybody knows about the Hessian conscripts in the British army during the revolution. In 1878, the Czar revoked military exemption which then caused German immigration from Russia to the Americas. There are still communities of Volga Deutsch in Canada, Brazil, the U.S. and Argentina.
The R1b "Germans" are Yamnayans in origin, and that is the reason they live in Kazakhstan, or maybe they want to return to Kazakhstan. The ones with haplogroup I are basically from the Wartberg culture and hence Basque in origin. I want to return to the Caucasus mountains and nobody can hold me back.
Caucasus mountains trip sounds cool.
Greetings. How do you do. Thank you very much for sharing this part of history. Diolch ag fwar. Ich danke inen.
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Hi, I love your channel and your mostly tame takes on most things. The biggest problem I have is that you treat the soviets as if they actually followed socialist ideals, they did not. There were much more tame socialist/social-democratic governments throughout history which were actually good for their people and far less corrupt and authoritarian than the soviet and soviet-like governments in Europe and Asia.
Stalin, Mao, The Kims, and let's not even mention the Khmer Rogue, etc. were authoritarian nutters, unrelated to their supposed communism. They led (and are leading in the case of North Korea) governments which are/were based on personality cults and used for personal gain of the dictator and their surroundings while actively hurting their people. That is not what socialism stands for, that is not what Marx had in mind. A proper social government would basically a government with high income tax for the higher middle class and above, low to none income tax for lower incomes, and a system to spread this money back to the people in the form of government aid, social programs, and infrastructure, among other things. Additionally, almost nothing related to running the country would be private-owned. And now while this is not true Marxism, this would certainly be called socialism.
What you call socialism, what you demonize like an American politician in the 60s, is a spit in the face of socialism, and while I do not mind you criticizing it, I do mind the fact you call it socialism, as if it is all the socialism that ever was, is, or will be.
Socialism leads to Communism, and many so-called socialiats intentionally use it to push toward Communism, which is my issue.
Cool history Ben , have you heard about the Polish Rastafarians of Haiti? It was to do with the Napoleonic wars. Cheers from Mercia
Mindblowing.
Great content!
I'd like to know more about minorities in soviet era. I know there are also manu Ukrainians in north Kazakhstan.
And how are doing Germans in Kazakhstan today?
I'm also interested about Khazarian kganatate and peoples living ther after these lands were occupied by Russia.
Thank you. The Khazars could be a good one to disprove the alleged mass Jewish coversion there.
They're confused and think they're originally from the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex, when they clearly aren't. In my opinion, Kazakhstan also belongs to the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex, not only Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan. I don't even know if Tajikistan belongs to the BMAC complex, to be honest. Kazakhstan could be Scythian or Yamnayan in origin instead of BMAC, so it could make a lot more sense. ALSO: There is a difference between the Afanasievo culture and the Yamnaya culture, and the world should know it.
Sounds worth learning more about.
We used to have 900,000 thousand Germans in Kazakhstan. Now there are more than 200,000 thousand left, most of them have emigrated to Germany. So, there is no need to invent it. In terms of population where there is a German diaspora, Kazakhstan ranks first among Muslim countries.
Thank you.
Loads of Afrikaans farmers have moved to Georgia in the Caucasus.
Fascinating!
@@BenLlywelyn They were invited.
About 40,000 families have left S Africa for Georgia in the last decade.
Should improve their Rugby Team.
I have been voting with my feet all my life. On my fifth country so far. I give a lot, but when the country wants 'to take' what is more than fair it's time to go.
Fascinating. Sounds like a great conversation. Which countries?
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The Volga-German communities kind of prospered in the 19th century, although Russia had become more nationalistic. Their population grew, the economy developed, their agriculture got more productive. Their hardship really only began in 1917. The Bolsheviks sent out food requiration squads to feed the urban centers where they had their power bases and they took away everything from the rural population. And those squads especially liked to confiscate the harvest of the German villages, simply because there was more to steal there. Until the the end of the Civil War 1921 about 20% of the Volga-German settlers had starved to death.
The whole Volga-German Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic was more of a cover up after this horrible famine. And the worst years, with all the expropriations and deportations were just to come later in the 1930ies and 40ies.
So no, hardship didn't start with Stalin. Already Lenin was a catastrophy for them.
Food quotas were aweful and those people must have suffered in ways we cannot imagine.
Yeah everything isnt black and white, its shades of both, every culture everywhere is like this but we get focused on pointless things like ideolgys
Indeed so.
@@BenLlywelyn by the way are you still gonna make arabic "dialects" explained in one sentence
It is on a list, a long list. I will get to it.
@@BenLlywelyn just make surr to not butcher egyptian arabic, its essansily 7 languages in a trenchcoat
@justaduck1664 damn, that's 2 more than English o.O
Greensleeves. I like that.
easy segue into the history of the russlanddeutsche..."voices from the gulag" for anyone interested in this subject
Any chance of you getting back to Cymraeg?
Yma a thraw (here and there).
Feliz navidad
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They really like apples
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Rußlanddeutsche are the last normal germans in Germany. I am an italian Volksdeutscher who married a polish with a mother born in Kazakistan. Her cousins are with german ancestors by the father side. They are simply great workers and persons. They still believe in God, in family, and in the Heimat. Between us we speak german and we agree about the big problems of Germany. What are those problems? The ignorance on the power, the leftists, the mass immigration, the American rule of the policy, and the corruption of the morality. We are considered Nazis, fascists, xenophobic, homophobic and bad people. But we are normal into a sick system. Germany is simply like Titanic, and sooner or later, it will fall into the black hole of history.
Germany will see radical change, as it always does. And in that change, harsh and rupturous, it will renew.
@BenLlywelyn the last radical change was during the 30s...remember that if germans will be in poverty, you'll see the dark side of the germans. It's clear that now the industry is collapsing. The leftist government is doing an economical suicide. Do you know why? Because the green laws and the big costs for the work and energy put all the industries to delocalize productions abroad as like in Poland or Romania for example, where the costs are 1/3 or less compared Germany. But it's not just this. Mass immigration is changing society and the security of the entire nation. Do you know that crimes are done for 80% by people with a foreign background? The Rußlanddeutsche are like italian germans because far from the rieducation decided by allies after WWII. We are talking clearly while germans have to think in silence to be not judged or punished. Sooner or later, their will explode, and the past could return. Be sure that if that happens, the situation will not be properly positive for many people. But you can't say that germans this time are wrong. EU is a structure without a sense where laws don't are the same from Helsinki to Malta or from Lisboa to Bucarest. EU favorites the melting pot and the dumping into the welfare state of each country. Sooner or later, the EU will implode on this. Personally, I want to vote for someone who wants italexit and the end of this criminal place where the lobbies decide our future and our way of life.
I guess they may be deported Wolga Germans.
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This is pure bullshit. Where is the origin of german people? It's on the north of Black Sea , on... Volga! The age of migration push part of them in the middle of Europe and to the north where they become Christians and ancestors of the actuals Germans, Danish, Norwegians etc. But other part remain in the Volga and in... Crimeea. (The Gothic Church disapeared when Russia anexed this teritory. ) Those from the Volga part of them embraced Mozaism on Khazar rule. The khazars was originally turkish people but they was assimikated by those german speakers. This is the origin of yidish.If you search where was Itil the capital of Khazars you will see that it was also on Volga.
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Your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Your comment is off topic and sounds petty.
...nice video..,and videos..,you said it right..,between black and white, so many nuances ..,but whatever the nuance..,pretty much everything has been brought at the vomiting stage..,terms, concepts ,ideologies..,you name it..,and your comments..,tone and mimic 😊 is wrapping your ideas in that romantic and laconic message I believe is much more appropriate after such a long time until you give "verdicts "..,makes you look engaged, or naiv or on payroll..,keep it romantic, ironic..,and you might qualify for an Oscar..
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How petty!
its jist volga-germans 😂
Fair opinion.
Don't worry Cathy no one likes them.
why don't you say that Kazakhs themselves were slaves and when Germans, Koreans, Chechens, etc. were deported to Kazakh steppes and were about to die it's Kazakhs who helped them sharing last food
Koreans?
@@BenLlywelyn yes. In 1930s koreans from vladivostok region were deported. Check the topic out
Yes, about 172 000 ethnic Koreans from the Far-Eastern parts of the USSR were deported to Kazakhstan in 1937. Nobody knows for sure how many died in the process, likely tens of thousands.
BTW Have you, by chance, heard about Viktor Tsoi? He was a legendary artist in the rock music scene of the late USSR. Although he was from Leningrad, his father was born in Kazakhstan in a Korean family.
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