Jordan Peterson ~ Good Predictors Of Having A Personality Disorder

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  • Jordan Peterson ~ Good Predictors Of Having A Personality Disorder
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  • @lucygoosie7726
    @lucygoosie7726 4 года назад +4610

    “Unless you’re not really that ambitious... which is not necessarily a bad thing.”
    That’s how I feel. I don’t want a high powered job and a big house or fancy car. I want to be healthy, live in a safe clean house, have a car that’s reliable, have good relationships with my family. I want to find contentment and purpose in my work. If it brings in a lot of money, I have more to give. But status and wealth doesn’t equate to happiness.

    • @desireecoad7557
      @desireecoad7557 4 года назад +88

      Lucy Goosie I am so happy to see your post!! Thank you. Something went wrong at the age of 20, and I am still trying to fix “this” wrongness. Every day is a new experience. 😊🙏

    • @MishelMAK
      @MishelMAK 4 года назад +112

      If you think money cannot buy happiness, you don't know where to f..ing shop.

    • @lucygoosie7726
      @lucygoosie7726 4 года назад +179

      mishel mak money can not make someone less lonely, only friends and family can do that. If your money bought you friends, you’ll never know if they love you for you or if they love you for your money.
      All the things money can buy are just distractions. Sometimes they’re really fun distractions. But material things is not what life is about. It’s about love and connections. That’s why Christmas is more exciting as a parent than as a kid; because you get more joy in giving than receiving.

    • @Hy-Brasil
      @Hy-Brasil 4 года назад +91

      I know money cant buy friends, or love etc.... but it can buy a dog.
      It also pays your bills, buys food, keeps the car running.
      In today's world you need money to be comfortable unless you're cool with being homeless and smelly.
      Yes that's unfortunate. We can't just roam about like free spirits without a care. Money buys security which reduces stress.... and yeah right about Christmas presents. I dont like the holidays or birthdays because they always fall on days when money is short. Thankfully my kids aren't materialistic little shits. They DO appreciate a warm home, full bellies, indoor plumbing etc. But all that takes $$$$

    • @lucygoosie7726
      @lucygoosie7726 4 года назад +113

      Emily Pollifax I specifically stated that I didn’t want to have a ton of money, but enough to live comfortably and have enough food, running car etc. You don’t have to be a millionaire to live comfortably.
      And as someone who is extremely allergic to dogs, I can’t relate. But I’m thinking like an average income where you can still do some fun stuff, but not the kind where you own 5 cars and need a maid.
      I have been in a bad situation before where my husband lost his job right after we moved, so we had just spent a lot on renovations, and we went for almost a year of not knowing if we’d be able to pay the mortgage. We just squeaked by, but it was one of the most stressful times of my life. I really feel for people who lose their house.

  • @DocJon1
    @DocJon1 3 года назад +1930

    Unreal that he so unselfishly shares his lectures with everyone. This man is a gift to humanity

    • @FewNewReasonss
      @FewNewReasonss 3 года назад +56

      Over 500 hours from a Harvard level professor sharing hours of his thoughts and classes is exactly what you said, a gift to humanity.

    • @ciarandevaney385
      @ciarandevaney385 3 года назад +8

      🙏👏

    • @SeekingNamelessly
      @SeekingNamelessly 3 года назад +9

      amen

    • @yardgrid
      @yardgrid 3 года назад +35

      Its vanity and sells books. Grow up

    • @SeekingNamelessly
      @SeekingNamelessly 3 года назад +41

      @@yardgrid It's free speech, and a solution to societal degeneration, grow up

  • @a_leaf
    @a_leaf Год назад +154

    "If you're not conscientious you'll never figure out why you don't advance"
    This is Gold.

    • @emil_rainbow
      @emil_rainbow Год назад +1

      pat on head.

    • @Furfire
      @Furfire 9 месяцев назад +11

      I disagree with his general point about advancement. If you are a good producer that gets stuff done well and on time, most companies will not suddenly give you a promotion. Doing so means you stop producing. They'll instead just give you more work.

    • @annatetiad.4991
      @annatetiad.4991 7 месяцев назад

      That's really true. I have seen good, honest, conscienscious people overlooked and only the corrupt butt lickers get promoted. Some places will only promote the sycophant. Depends on the organization - there are lots of corrupt ones out there. @@Furfire

    • @lrsperanza
      @lrsperanza 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Furfire that's why it's not a good idea to be conscientious ONLY. You have to be somewhat disagreeable to refuse to continue producing in such a circumstance. You have to demand progression or leave when it's hurting you like that

  • @scottkraft1062
    @scottkraft1062 4 года назад +1888

    This man saved my life

    • @maryem8263
      @maryem8263 4 года назад +13

      Awesome!!! 💜

    • @Skippyx
      @Skippyx 4 года назад +22

      Same.

    • @scottkraft1062
      @scottkraft1062 4 года назад +222

      Ex wife left me in my kids 7 years ago and decided to stay single and focus on my kids and I found this man's book on the the 12 rules for life and 8 months later I'm a full time student majoring in psychology and my kids are looking up to me and I couldn't be happier

    • @maryem8263
      @maryem8263 4 года назад +16

      Scott kraft Good job! 😃

    • @berniventer1343
      @berniventer1343 4 года назад +18

      @@scottkraft1062 Well done! Taking a time out of relationships was a very smart move. Now onward and upward brave soul 😇

  • @brandonbrown6433
    @brandonbrown6433 Год назад +88

    Im halfway through my bachelor's degree in psychology. I'd also like to mention I'm a 30 year old father who struggled with addiction for a while, and I've fought for what I have now and i couldn't have done it without this man. I've read many of his books over the years and have listened to countless lectures. Thank you, sir.

    • @brandonbrown6433
      @brandonbrown6433 Год назад +1

      @gymonx11 thank you friend 🤙

    • @raymondparnell439
      @raymondparnell439 11 месяцев назад +5

      Mate that's awesome, I'm a an ex drug addict . And I take my hat of to you. I also think people like you will have insights the clean people don't. Experience cannot be substituted

    • @rentalsnake6542
      @rentalsnake6542 7 месяцев назад +2

      Do either of you have any insights/advice about addiction that you could share with me after managing to fix it?
      Currently dealing with the same issue and don't know how to attack it at its roots. Willpower alone can't fix the problem for me as the ravaging and ceaseless craving is always present and very pervasive.

    • @brandonbrown6433
      @brandonbrown6433 7 месяцев назад

      @rentalsnake6542 I would recommend reading a book called "In the Realm of Hungry Ghost" by Gabor Matè. It gave me great insight on the root of my behavior. Your mind is like a machine that has been programmed. You need to reprogram it.

    • @budte
      @budte 3 месяца назад

      @@rentalsnake6542 It is 41 years since my last drink. Not all drunks and addicts are the same. I never beat my addiction. It beat me. And paradoxically, when it had me beaten, I geve up trying to beat it. I was then at a place where I knew I couldn't beat it, and I knew I couldn't carry on either. At that point I went and got the help I needed, which was really only peer support and listening to others who by their example slowly changed my mindset from one that could not imagine life without alcohol to one that was quite happy to be without it. It takes time and in the early days moments of just getting through and saying no.
      Try to be honest with yourself as much of the time as you can, but whatever happens there is no mileage to be made in self-condemnation.

  • @ian1patterson
    @ian1patterson 3 года назад +338

    The great man himself has been touched by anxiety and depression so it just goes to show that no one is infallible to personality disorder.....the thing I love and respect about this man is his courage to be very open and honest about the abnormalities within his character and I'll wager many therapists have been inspired to enter this field due to their own experiences of hardship.

    • @evangeliakaratza-styliara4413
      @evangeliakaratza-styliara4413 3 года назад +1

      Nicely put!

    • @lonefaolan6042
      @lonefaolan6042 3 года назад +87

      He is just a man who is fallible. Depression and anxiety are not a personality disorder. These issues are considered a mood disorder. Everyone goes through hardship, loss, disappointment, and uncertainty. We all experience emotions no one is so self actualized they are impervious to the depths of grief.

    • @Thinkoutsidethebox15
      @Thinkoutsidethebox15 3 года назад +15

      @@lonefaolan6042 I was just about to say this but you summed it up! Personality disorders are particularly problematic if not controlled by insight, dialectic therapy, or meds. Even then.....that may not be enough.

    • @granny58
      @granny58 3 года назад +39

      Anxiety and depression not personality disorder.

    • @altonology1134
      @altonology1134 3 года назад +1

      Well put

  • @Isobel31Swan
    @Isobel31Swan 4 года назад +3470

    It's exhausting being conscientious when nobody around you is.

    • @johnallerson6911
      @johnallerson6911 4 года назад +81

      Isobel31Swan I feel like that’s something a sociopath would say.

    • @Isobel31Swan
      @Isobel31Swan 4 года назад +209

      @@johnallerson6911 if I were a sociopath I would a lot more successful than I am now. Don't you see others at your place of work swinging the lead while you are working full pelt and doing hours of unpaid over time while others walk around the office gossing?

    • @johnallerson6911
      @johnallerson6911 4 года назад +42

      Isobel31Swan The fact that you attempted to narrowly define a strangers profession and demeanor from a single sentence but which undoubtedly describes yourself much closer leads me to believe I was correct in my assessment. Sorry for that.

    • @tn7403
      @tn7403 4 года назад +131

      @@johnallerson6911 why does that sound sociopathic?

    • @johnallerson6911
      @johnallerson6911 4 года назад +21

      T N I was just fucking about sheesh. I have no idea

  • @andrewheffel928
    @andrewheffel928 4 года назад +1437

    I always thought psychology was BS. Until I listened to this man. He has great insight into the human condition, and he cares about others. If you listen to him and put what you learn into practice, it will transform your life.

    • @Sherlika_Gregori
      @Sherlika_Gregori 4 года назад +12

      Andrew Heffel you need to discover Freud.

    • @andrewheffel928
      @andrewheffel928 4 года назад +38

      @@Sherlika_Gregori: I am not sure I have the intellectual horsepower to understand Freud. But I like JP's great advice, his biblical stories, and his claim that western civilization is founded on the person of Jesus Christ. I trust JP. Take care, God bless.

    • @dariusthepersian8359
      @dariusthepersian8359 4 года назад +20

      You don't need to study any psychology to have the great majority of the understanding Peterson has.

    • @dariusthepersian8359
      @dariusthepersian8359 4 года назад +32

      @@Sherlika_Gregori Freud was a fraud. The Godfather of hokum in the field of psychology.

    • @igorilic5099
      @igorilic5099 4 года назад +11

      @@andrewheffel928 in that case, c.g. jung

  • @fifthlevelbard9541
    @fifthlevelbard9541 4 года назад +238

    If you have an analytic mind (or analytic enough) and are depressed and you listen to Dr. Peterson, you can start to tease apart logically why you are that way and set yourself up a path to not only get out of it, but thrive then thereafter. This isn't just valuable, this is priceless.

    • @FirstNameLastName-sy2jq
      @FirstNameLastName-sy2jq 2 года назад +10

      that’s why I feel like he has changed countless of lives, including mine. never once did i think something as small as cleaning my room was going to improve my life until fully hearing his reason and logic behind it and, like you said, for an analytic mind that can definitely be life changing when you are trying to get yourself out of a rut but don’t know how

    • @wouldyounot7971
      @wouldyounot7971 Год назад +2

      @@FirstNameLastName-sy2jq what happens if most solutions like cleaning your room and other things dont work anymore

    • @kimtaehyungsock
      @kimtaehyungsock Год назад

      @@wouldyounot7971 socialising?

    • @FirstNameLastName-sy2jq
      @FirstNameLastName-sy2jq Год назад +3

      @@wouldyounot7971 man fuck the shit i said a year ago i still never got around to cleaning my room lmao

    • @FirstNameLastName-sy2jq
      @FirstNameLastName-sy2jq Год назад +8

      @@wouldyounot7971 i know there is a slim chance you may actually read this and find what i found insightful, but if it helps in the slightest then i’m glad. i cleaned my room and thought about your comment and realized this: you asked “what if cleaning your room doesn’t work anymore, then what?” it’s not about cleaning your room, it never was. it’s about finding the next room in your life to clean, and after enough compartments in your life have been cleaned up, maybe then you can try and find happiness in your life. this is what peterson means when he says that your bedroom is simply a metaphor. firstly, what’s the biggest problem you have in your life and what can you do to fix it? after that, congratulations, you can start moving outward because you have built up enough competence to face your fears. hence, do you exercise enough? spend time with your friends or family? have time dedicated to your hobbies? are a good wife/ husband/ child/ parent/ etc? once this has been achieved, it’s like a heavy weight that has been lifted from your chest that previously held you down from getting up and finding happiness in life.

  • @AJ-eb1zm
    @AJ-eb1zm 4 года назад +331

    Jordan Petersen is one of the greatest minds in Canada ... a country that’s short on free speech and people that truly speak about moral truths and brilliant insights !
    Thankyou JP 🍀💕

    • @kerriwilson7732
      @kerriwilson7732 4 года назад +13

      I agree. But the reason it is rare in Canada is that our society doesn't value morals, truth, & insight.

    • @benwinter2420
      @benwinter2420 4 года назад +1

      He unfortunate had it arse about with his bible interpretations . . they were't books on philosophy but history/myth (myth was an term for history previous . . why was it air brush changed in meaning . . mmm) in code/allegory the bible tells an very interesting real story . . that the 'Satanist' Hollywood CIA/SS crowd . . wants you in ignorance of . . why aka 'special' knowledge makes the commandant of the camp . . feel superior to the inmates aka work makes free etc

    • @fitodibene167
      @fitodibene167 4 года назад

      @@benwinter2420 woah

    • @fitodibene167
      @fitodibene167 4 года назад

      @fynes leigh who hurt you? Hahahahaha

    • @maximuscomfort
      @maximuscomfort 3 года назад

      @@kerriwilson7732 I think socialism takes the nervous and jerky out of people and they hug&cheek kiss more then speak up... IMHO

  • @welderella
    @welderella 4 года назад +747

    I went to a private college.... cost a lot of money even thirty years ago. Nothing compared to Peterson.

    • @nicolelauderdale3919
      @nicolelauderdale3919 4 года назад +4

      011090 - 100% agreed !!

    • @brigadierharsh1948
      @brigadierharsh1948 4 года назад +12

      Not criticizing Peterson, but you must have went to a pretty terrible college if a single thinker on RUclips can give you more than an entire degree.

    • @valerieparker2242
      @valerieparker2242 4 года назад +3

      Did you take psych classes?

    • @ElliotRitchey
      @ElliotRitchey 4 года назад +27

      @@brigadierharsh1948 It would seem that most colleges are relatively terrible then.

    • @MichaelSmith-mb1kp
      @MichaelSmith-mb1kp 4 года назад +23

      But Peterson is likely one of the best speakers you might ever here and the person that compared it to a private college didn’t say it replaced his entire schooling

  • @jackolantern6172
    @jackolantern6172 9 месяцев назад +4

    My grandfather on my dad’s side made my grandmother do everything, while he was often unemployed, going out spending all of the money and having affairs. She, on the other hand, was a runaway from a bad situation. Before they divorced, he told her that he essentially doesn’t like his kids. They had two, a son and a daughter. Their son is my birth father.
    I don’t know as much as I should about my mother’s upbringing. Her parents were/are reclusive evangelical types, but they weren’t always that way. I remember my mother telling me that, when she was little, he’d have her stand watch while he sneakily smoked a cigarette behind my grandmother’s back. I get the impression that he was kind of a rowdy guy before he got into Christianity, and I think it was my Grandmother who got him on that track. Which is good, but I think they subjected their two daughters, one being my mother, to religious abuse.
    When I was 5, my mother and I were in a T-bone car accident. I was the only one hurt. My head went thru the driver’s side backseat window. The paramedics told my parents to be prepared because I probably wouldn’t make it to the hospital. My mother said she held me and sobbed while she listened to my lungs fill up. I was airlifted by helicopter to Ann Arbor, Michigan, where I spent about a week in a induced coma. I don’t remember anything. The first year or so of recovery was difficult. I’ve been told that I didn’t recognize people, and they scared me. When I went back to school, kids treated me different and I had a hard time fitting in. My mother was also pretty overbearing so I often felt isolated, stuck at home watching the few movies we had over and over. We were also pretty poor. I look back at my childhood memories and they don’t seem bad, but there’s always been a sadness that I couldn’t explain.
    The older I got, and the more things happened like my parents’ divorce, the awful guys my mom would have around, my mothers change in personality, puberty, my distant but controlling father… the more I struggled with knowing who I was. It was like I had to be a fake version of myself at home or I’d get yelled at and punished. When I’d be with my peers, I felt like everyone was misunderstanding me and critical of me, or they’d just make fun of me and spread rumors about me. I felt like I had a target on my back no matter where I was. And I was ashamed of my home life so I’d try to keep people away and lie about it. Again we were poor and my mom developed a strange, arrogant personality. And both of my parents seemed to be kind of mean to my friends. It was embarrassing and I felt bad. I had no self esteem and was super anxious.
    Through high school I think I developed narcissistic tendencies, and had a hard time with friendships and relationships. I didn’t get along with my mom, it was a fight every day over something. I wanted to go live with my dad because he acted like a good father, but he would never allow me to stay with him. I didn’t do my homework because my home life was hell and I’m more of a creative type, and I’d be yelled at/punished for that. I felt like I didn’t have anywhere to go except to one of my few friends’ houses, who were troubled too. And that’s when I eventually got into doing drugs. I was never an addict or anything, we’d mostly just smoke pot but on occasion we’d get our hands on some psychedelics or coke. By the time I was 17 I was kicked out of my mother’s because I didn’t get along with her boyfriend who as it turns out was secretly married with a family the whole time. And I knew he was a fraud and I let her know many times. I had no where to go so I lived in my uninsured truck. I didn’t go to my graduation because I was embarrassed, I just picked it up a week or two later. I had $200,000 of settlement money that was placed into a trust under my father’s control, that I was supposed to get in sums of $50,000 every 2 years beginning when I turned 18. When I got the first sum, things were finally looking up, but it was in a joint account that I shared with my father and he took all of it under the guise of being “trustee” and father. So I was back to being homeless, depressed, anxious, with no money. My truck was impounded, so I ended up back at my friend’s house and crashed on his couch for months. There were times were I went 3-4 days without food.
    Without droning on too much more, I basically never recovered as I developed debilitating chronic pain and struggled to keep working more than a few months at a time. At 30 I realized both of my parents are narcissists, and well as both of my father’s parents. I sued my father for my money, plus 3x the max damages for the financial abuse, the chronic pain was trauma from my accident, I went to therapy and am now very happy and successful with my fiancée and identify as an orphan. I had to cut off my entire family. I have no anxiety or insecurity, and feel like my true self for the first time since I was just a little boy.

  • @MegakeepWorks
    @MegakeepWorks 4 года назад +1812

    I feel like I'm gaining some neurons every time I see Jordan Peterson talking.

    • @petesahad3028
      @petesahad3028 4 года назад +41

      So you watch his speeches on mute?

    • @XNerk302
      @XNerk302 4 года назад +12

      Jacob Alanheimer quit it. Blazing regularly is the devil for most people. After blazing for 3 years every day straight, i stopped 4 months ago. Completely changed my perspective on these subjects. Less irrationality, more remembering, more deduction. You just ascend dude to what your body and foremost mind is capable of offering you.

    • @FERALDOG4
      @FERALDOG4 4 года назад +1

      K33p3r99 agreed

    • @orionstar3310
      @orionstar3310 4 года назад +1

      Yeah gotta regrow the brain cells I lost from the burnt tape fumes...

    • @IamINERT
      @IamINERT 4 года назад

      @William Hutchinson Ah 👁👄👁

  • @KAMZA.
    @KAMZA. 4 года назад +1719

    Shit, psychology is really cool.

    • @tofix3308
      @tofix3308 4 года назад +8

      Ikr👀

    • @emil.jansson
      @emil.jansson 4 года назад +22

      Psudeoscience!

    • @philiphicks1273
      @philiphicks1273 4 года назад +2

      Goggle products Genghis Khan?

    • @taitbrown2591
      @taitbrown2591 4 года назад +31

      Peterson is a human engineer that wants to make people stronger courageous and wise.

    • @notamused3715
      @notamused3715 4 года назад +2

      The way Jordan Peterson teaches it it is! He's pure class and you'd want to read his book "12 Rules for Life",it's brilliant!

  • @catlovesdogs1968
    @catlovesdogs1968 3 года назад +186

    What narcissists do is a very bad thing.

    • @spineangle9611
      @spineangle9611 3 года назад +1

      Bullshit. What qualifies wrong? I feel whomever you're referring to believes things they do are wrong.

    • @markharlock6474
      @markharlock6474 Год назад +31

      @@spineangle9611 That's not BS. A narcissist is their own greatest admirer, very much in the center of their bubble of self-importance. Self-awareness, and a capacity to understand how they treat those around them, are not typical characteristics, this is why living (or working) with one doesn't usually end well...

    • @ericanthony1982
      @ericanthony1982 Год назад

      Yea shut up man, the word needs entertainers

    • @ericanthony1982
      @ericanthony1982 Год назад

      Also, that’s kind of a narcissistic thing to say 😂

    • @Nutmeg142
      @Nutmeg142 Год назад +1

      You’ve never met a fighter pilot, or any pilot, or surgeon for that matter. Narcissists thrive in very high stress jobs because they have that self confidence.

  • @SubjectiveFunny
    @SubjectiveFunny 3 года назад +29

    This one hit me. I work for a company where a few of us started at the same time. I have always been very vocal and negative, almost seeing all the things that were wrong so I became less agreeable. A fellow worder always kept quiet and did pretty much everything they asked, he has been promoted and received many extra opportunities. I was never angry at him, but I was definitely jealous to some degree. Now I am somewhat self employed, I earn a fraction of what I did when I was working there, and I see now that even if I had all those opportunities I dont think I would be happy anyway, I always wanted to be free and not have someone else dictate my life.
    My heart dropped towards the end as I feel he was basically explaining my exact work story, but his last little bit right at the end gave me a little boost that I am not a complete failure in my choices!
    Thanks Dr!

    • @noweare1
      @noweare1 3 года назад +2

      Your describing me. Went out on my own15 years ago. Made me more outgoing and confident, but less $$$.

    • @firefeethok_tui2355
      @firefeethok_tui2355 7 месяцев назад +1

      You described a lot of people. Many people just keep quiet bc they ha e other things at risk. But a lot of them feel like you for the most part, even if they dont act upon it.

  • @bokyarao873
    @bokyarao873 Год назад +288

    It's nightmare to live as an introvert among overly extroverted people. It feels like life is getting sucked out of me.

    • @HelenEk7
      @HelenEk7 Год назад +23

      Same. You just have to make sure you get enough alone time. Preferably both before and after you spend time with them.

    • @sitoudien9816
      @sitoudien9816 Год назад

      Social media has made everyone an extrovert. Without the clicks and affirmations they wither and die. I don't do social media.

    • @SteviePaints
      @SteviePaints Год назад +33

      Agree. Constant talkers wear me out.

    • @andrewmercer2767
      @andrewmercer2767 Год назад +2

      Just be gallus , just be pure gallus

    • @13Xibalba
      @13Xibalba Год назад +18

      “People empty me. I have to get away to refill.” ― Charles Bukowski.

  • @reverielarke
    @reverielarke 3 года назад +22

    Great little presentation. It has the added attribute of hearing him laugh out loud, which doesn't happen that often. All of his talks are pure gold.

  • @CrossCory
    @CrossCory 3 года назад +74

    Dude… what an excellent communicator and one of the best teachers that has ever lived. Such mentally stimulating content he has to share.

  • @drip3889
    @drip3889 4 года назад +51

    I was a dumbass who people hung out with to laugh at, after listening to jordan Peterson, i feel much more powerful and people now treat me as a leader rather than a fool, my social life completely changed because of this man.
    “Articulacy is power”
    - Jordan B. Peterson

  • @phil6025
    @phil6025 3 года назад +15

    @2:40 - Fascinating. I don't like to admit that I'm high on Agreeableness, but his description of agreeable people has pegged me. A major lens through which I understand my life is through the relationships I've had through the years. I do it more than anybody I know and I really do see it as a roadmap of the way my life has gone.

  • @MAX-tw3qz
    @MAX-tw3qz 4 года назад +1008

    Most people I know don't even have a genuine personality, let alone a disorder, we live amidst an homgenised mass of stunted and immature souls.

    • @TankCatIntoMordor
      @TankCatIntoMordor 4 года назад +79

      You live in LA?

    • @spenner3529
      @spenner3529 4 года назад +15

      MAX AM: Thank God for you.

    • @Atomic419
      @Atomic419 4 года назад +106

      If personality is shaped in childhood then it is the parents who bare the most responsibility for the development of these disorders. I know so many people who got entirely F'd up in childhood and thats not their fault. Have compassion for those that suffer.

    • @Eliras24
      @Eliras24 4 года назад +6

      very true speaking

    • @RobertDeLoneWolf
      @RobertDeLoneWolf 4 года назад +11

      Shift your environment.

  • @rhysdavies872
    @rhysdavies872 3 года назад +222

    Peterson: “If you’re disagreeable and neurotic, you tend to have a personality disorder”
    Me: “fuck!”

    • @joshy2joshy
      @joshy2joshy 3 года назад +10

      Nah you'd disagree that you are disagreeable ;) and then your neuroticism would divulge into an "I don't care anyway" attitude as a coping mechanism.

    • @jasminemorgenstern6599
      @jasminemorgenstern6599 3 года назад +4

      @@joshy2joshy and again no to your response. Being disagreeable and neurotic won't keep you away from being self-conscious. Neurotism has its own ways to show itself and ignoring is not and can never be the only part of it. Than none of these people would have the tendency to search for help. So I would say you are wrong here as a person who has neurotism as 100 and agreeableness as around 20-30.

    • @joshy2joshy
      @joshy2joshy 3 года назад

      @@jasminemorgenstern6599 that's the point. You still have it but you may adapt an apathetic attitude as your way to seem like you're not bothered. When in reality you are experiencing plenty of negative emotions.

    • @joshy2joshy
      @joshy2joshy 3 года назад +1

      @Super Genius while avoiding may be the selfish thing to do. It's still a personal choice and we should never tell others what to do.

    • @joshy2joshy
      @joshy2joshy 3 года назад

      @Super Genius I've been on my own for 7 years... :P

  • @allature
    @allature 4 года назад +154

    This is like the third time I heard him go off on the poor engineers LOL

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 4 года назад +8

      @championchap That's right, you like things :)
      If you didn't like things and liked people instead, then you wouldn't be engineers in the first place! :D

    • @kristenmarie9248
      @kristenmarie9248 4 года назад +3

      I laughed so hard out loud! My brother is an Engineer and Jordan Peterson nailed it!!!

    • @strangerthingsaresaid7655
      @strangerthingsaresaid7655 3 года назад +5

      @@DekkarJr I'm not an engineer and I hate people too. The world has too may stupid people is the problem.

    • @hiwhatexpectedarealnamewit3244
      @hiwhatexpectedarealnamewit3244 3 года назад +3

      @@strangerthingsaresaid7655 if you don't like the people around you it's easy to like things instead and engineering happens to deal with a lot of things to solve. But I agree a lot of people are stupid more you grow the more you feel more uncomfortable around them there is no winning to be around them other than leaving them it sucks

    • @thedolphin5428
      @thedolphin5428 3 года назад +2

      He's only using them as a stereotypical examples for his talking point.

  • @fazzxides8429
    @fazzxides8429 3 года назад +48

    My environment is completely disorganized but my mind is not, my focus is crystal clear, my thoughts perfectly organized and I can routinely see things which make the difference which my organized colleagues don’t. After many years at the top of the tree in my chosen profession I can safely say that there is no correlation between how organized your environment is and how effective you are at what you do. I’m sure there are many others who can vouch for this.

    • @markharlock6474
      @markharlock6474 Год назад +6

      Maybe you're an 'outlier' to the usual correlation. I think you need to be careful that one of these days a well-meaning person doesn't sabotage your success by 'tidying up' for you...oh the horror...

    • @anitamcginnis8028
      @anitamcginnis8028 Год назад +4

      You must be, then, a top tree trimmer.

    • @wendi2819
      @wendi2819 Год назад +1

      I think when we can easily organize data and paperwork of all types in our heads, we do not care about how our environment looks, messy or pristine. I just feel societal pressure that I'm a cluttery, messy person.

    • @marialeon6765
      @marialeon6765 Год назад +3

      Well, yeah, while disorder may be a stressor for me, it doesn't stop me from having stuff organized in my mind.

    • @ASMR_Lighting
      @ASMR_Lighting Год назад +4

      I think it is possible to distract oneself with tidying up rather than focusing on the task at hand. When I am truly engaged in a project and producing results my workspacecan be chaotic but my mind is laser-focused...

  • @roddydykes7053
    @roddydykes7053 4 года назад +50

    It’s rare now after 3 years of listening to JP that I hear anything truly new, but that example about secret doors opening for the conscientious people is pretty interesting, don’t think he’s mentioned that in any other lectures

  • @davidsirmons
    @davidsirmons 4 года назад +1403

    predictor 1: has personality
    predictor 2: has dirty room

    • @YawMoney
      @YawMoney 4 года назад +9

      Lol

    • @tjlawless8588
      @tjlawless8588 4 года назад +48

      What if my room is clean, but only because my girlfriend cleans it? Do I win?

    • @AnnabellaRedwood
      @AnnabellaRedwood 4 года назад +41

      @@tjlawless8588 girl friend that cleans for you - that's living the dream ;)

    • @MyNameIsBVD
      @MyNameIsBVD 4 года назад +16

      Goggle products I think you need to take his advice more than anyone...

    • @annettealmvik
      @annettealmvik 4 года назад +6

      @Goggle products i dont think JP is trans, but i think that there are many celebs who are, and that it's a big secret. And ive looked into Transvestigation. many of them look trans, but not all of them. I think Pink might been born a man, and Amale Clooney, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Aniston. It's Easy to make a convincing MTF trans, a man looking female, you just need to start the transitioning early enough, and i think J.Bieber was born a Woman, he looks petit, small feet, hands, always photoshopped, small dude in big clothes, he shoulders are narrow and his hips are broad, and he sounds like a lespian speaking. Why would peterson be against pronouns for the trans people if he secretly is one, i dont think he is. I dont feel that J.P is doing harm, he obviously wants people to think and reflect!

  • @JT-ss6si
    @JT-ss6si 4 года назад +78

    I love how Mr. Peterson avoids being toxic. You can hear it in the things he "fails" to say or hesitates to say. Just watch him carefully. I noticed in the beginning he almost went on a rant but said "Anyway..." instead. Perhaps he didn't want to lose track of the direction of the class.

    • @landrybeck
      @landrybeck 4 года назад +5

      J T He has a strong contempt for mentally ill people. You can sense it in his lectures and read it on his face. His entire demeanor is of a man who exasperatingly declares before each class “if these idiots were just stronger, I wouldn’t even need to be here; I could pursue my more important work over in sociology.”
      Now he’s in rehab on Benzo withdrawal. You know what they say. You’ll eventually become what you hate if you think about it all the time.

    • @JT-ss6si
      @JT-ss6si 4 года назад +2

      ​@@landrybeck Who is in rehab? And for a clinical psychologist to have contempt for mentally ill people is pretty unprofessional and he might need to retire.

    • @landrybeck
      @landrybeck 4 года назад +1

      He's in rehab! He got himself hooked on Xanax! How's that for a clinician? The guy's a junkie on top of all this. Total hypocrite.

    • @landrybeck
      @landrybeck 4 года назад

      Peterson, I meant. It was in the news and his daughter put it on her RUclips.

    • @DarkMatterWorkshop
      @DarkMatterWorkshop 4 года назад +36

      Landry Beck Dr. Peterson took benzo’s to cope with his wife’s illness.
      Never have I seen him display contempt for the mentally ill quit the contrary actually.
      Now, you however sound like a small, bitter man ! Let’s hope difficulties in life never drive you to such measures !

  • @SuperSkandale
    @SuperSkandale 4 года назад +10

    This type of content is so stimulating to listen to.

  • @ProgrammedForDamage
    @ProgrammedForDamage 4 года назад +92

    "If your not conscientious you'll never figure out why you don't advance." Oh shit; that explains a lot of my life.

    • @nyahhbinghi
      @nyahhbinghi 3 года назад +4

      i love JBP but nah, pretty obvious why you don't advance. if you're physically attractive or highly likable you can advance, o/w everyone knows that you have to be conscientious, all other things equal

    • @lizquinn3568
      @lizquinn3568 3 года назад +2

      I knew this guy he was a booze hound a womanizer and hadn't a pot to piss in, but he came across as the most entitled bum I know, thoughts of grandeur or what 😒

    • @snsmystic
      @snsmystic 3 года назад +3

      @@nyahhbinghi I respectfully disagree. Being attractive or highly likable may make someone easier to advance, but if they're not conscientious or self-aware (of their weaknesses) then pretty soon the halo effect will wear off and they will never materialize the the expectations people people have of them because the individuals themselves have no awareness of what needs to be materialize.
      Plenty of attractive and likable people I know have no ambition or self-awareness of their weaknesses or conscientious enough to take steps to advance in their career or personal relationships.

    • @kathleengleason9805
      @kathleengleason9805 3 года назад

      @@lizquinn3568 I really dislike him he sounds bipolar manic to me alot thanks for ur insight why do people worship these men it's weird

  • @subconsciousconversations2763
    @subconsciousconversations2763 4 года назад +89

    I really appreciate these upload as they go into his academic and psychological teachings, as opposed to his political ones. this stuff is way more interesting

    • @MrJamberee
      @MrJamberee 4 года назад +11

      He’s not particularly political. It’s just that those who lean left tend to get upset when silly nonsense like “These are my pronouns” are confronted with facts.

    • @Zoney06
      @Zoney06 4 года назад +13

      The political is psychological. That's why it overlaps.

    • @ecurb10
      @ecurb10 4 года назад +2

      Yes Lowell Union I agree.
      I do like his political talks but these days they seem to be ALL political or theological. He doesn't seem to talk individual, clinical psychology topics much anymore, which I like to apply to my own life.

    • @ecurb10
      @ecurb10 4 года назад +1

      @@MrJamberee When he is constantly talking about "the radical Left", totalitarianism, Pareto principal etc, yep, I'd call that political.
      Social psychology maybe, but it's definitely not individual psychology.
      Don't get me wrong....I like his political talks, but these days there seems to be way too much of it.

    • @YomaanMand
      @YomaanMand 4 года назад +1

      @@ecurb10 yeah but there's a reason for it, he thinks the universities are going in a wrong direction which clearly affects him, I think his political engagement is more than justified. also he got so much shit from radicals.
      but I think nowadays people just politicize anything and everything, whenever they can and then shit on it. most of the things people criticize him for aren't intended to be political, it was often facts he stated which pissed people off - and that's crazy. they went too far in this case and we got to see just how crazy a lot of them are, literally politicizing science.
      the fact this whole thing could have had cost him his job should make us wonder about whether this PC thing is really what it claims to be, or if it's something people hide behind in order to demonize thing they don't like.

  • @organicjuice
    @organicjuice 3 года назад +14

    I like how he brought up actors and engineers and droped them quickly.

  • @zainw24
    @zainw24 4 года назад +133

    Some terms used:
    conscientiousness
    openness = creativity/intelligence
    extroverted + disagreeable = proclivity to narcissism
    disagreeable + neurotic = personality disorder
    extroversion associated with incentive reward
    extroverts harvest attention
    agreeableness - empathy, sympathy, compliance, care system
    agreeable
    disagreeable
    conscientious
    open
    extroverted
    introverted
    neurotic
    conscientiousness - (can be associated with disgust, guilt, shame)
    industriousness - able to implement their goals

    • @dixonpinfold2582
      @dixonpinfold2582 3 года назад +1

      The final one, "industriousness - able to implement their goals," seems strange. Many people _are_ industrious and don't achieve their goals. Many people achieve their goals _without_ being industrious, particularly those whose goals are modest or who are gifted in ways that make things relatively easy (brains, looks, talent, social position). To me it seems a formulation which was thought out very loosely.

    • @0000song0000
      @0000song0000 3 года назад +3

      You forgot Neuroticism and its correlación with the GABA receptors in the brain

    • @dariankaltenbach8062
      @dariankaltenbach8062 3 года назад +2

      I didn't need this, but this is very considerate and diligent of you, Zain. Good job.

    • @lonefaolan6042
      @lonefaolan6042 3 года назад +1

      Having a proclivity towards narcissism means you more than likely may have Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

    • @colinogorman8279
      @colinogorman8279 3 года назад +2

      Thank you

  • @becoming_real7385
    @becoming_real7385 3 года назад +34

    This man put my life back into my hand.

  • @anon17672
    @anon17672 2 года назад +19

    Unless you’re not really that ambitious... which is not necessarily a bad thing.” this is why Dr. Peterson is so good.

    • @GVSHvids
      @GVSHvids Год назад +2

      The fact that ambition is on a spectrum probably means there is an evolutionary niche for unambitious people. I think that's why he said it. In a way open people can be seen as unambitious cause their creative passion pulls them into so many directions, lacking real focus.

    • @sarahyip2825
      @sarahyip2825 Год назад

      ​@@GVSHvidsWell said. "Ambition is on a spectrum" is a helpful concept. Not a fixed target but a vague label of Unambitious vs Ambitious. May be unconsciously
      imposed upon the rest by the times and media.
      Searing Ambition is always DRIVEN. And at the expense of family and society. Any Driven person who is totally out for him/herself should be called out instead of hailed as a super achiever!

    • @Purplelemon5033
      @Purplelemon5033 Год назад

      Agree I’m not ambitious but that can be a positive. It’s ok to be content with what you’ve got.

  • @holly.7971
    @holly.7971 4 года назад +13

    I absolutely love Jordan! Such a clever man.

  • @susanb5058
    @susanb5058 4 года назад +16

    So true about consciousness in a job setting. If you’re good you’ll get an overload of work while the slackers get off easy and are probably paid the same. So you have to figure out if it’s worth it to you. If you’re looking to climb the ladder, it may be, but otherwise you can be taken advantage of with little to no reward. Then again, you may be given the more interesting assignments and that may give you more job satisfaction.

    • @Purplelemon5033
      @Purplelemon5033 Год назад

      ⁠@@Gardener-zm5no that can be true. The downside though is that it can cause resentment from colleagues. I know a wonderful person that goes way and above in her job role, very caring stays late unpaid, she can’t leave until everything is sorted. But because of this she is the one client’s always ask for and it makes the others not look as good. She was treated not very nicely by colleagues because of this.

    • @bseidem5112
      @bseidem5112 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was this way, wanting to work and conscientiousness. Worked for me, always had opportunities to climb and did.

  • @immortalnow
    @immortalnow Год назад +3

    I have known actors who had little self confidence -- they simply loved to act, loved the art of acting the same way a painter loves to paint, a writer writes or dancer loves to dance -- they are all deeply compelled to practice their art, and suffer if they do not. Jordan is the same, in his own way. He is compelled to be who he is, to think and say what he has to say: an iconoclast, jewel and artist of his chosen realm.

  • @mannysmandatories5595
    @mannysmandatories5595 4 года назад +330

    I did the test.
    High on Extroversion, Neurotic-ism and Disagreeableness. I am so screwed.

    • @annemarz
      @annemarz 4 года назад +11

      Which test is that?

    • @pedrocasonatti8067
      @pedrocasonatti8067 4 года назад +1

      What test

    • @mannysmandatories5595
      @mannysmandatories5595 4 года назад +23

      @@pedrocasonatti8067 the Doctor designed a version of the big 5 personality test that scores you on neuroticism, industriousness, agreeableness, openness and extroversion. it's available to do online. it's at understandmyself.com

    • @jondavies1261
      @jondavies1261 4 года назад +32

      @@mannysmandatories5595 I find some of the questions on these kinds of tests to be too lacking in context to answer accurately and I get stuck on a some questions because of it. Also, I think it's impossible for tests like these to distinguish between learned behaviours and inherent personality traits and so your 'disagreeable', 'neurotic' nature may not be as permanent as suggested...
      I think there IS something that these tests DO offer. However, I would suggest to take results with a pinch of salt... I took a personality test a few years ago (understandmyself.com) that said I was high in neuroticism and extremely high in disagreeableness. The one I took this year (hexaco.org) said that I was mid-range in neuroticism and fairly agreeable...

    • @ourochroma
      @ourochroma 4 года назад +29

      You’r only hope at this point..
      Clean your room

  • @irrelevantideology9640
    @irrelevantideology9640 4 года назад +34

    I'm an introvert and I'm pretty sure I have borderline personality disorder.....I've been at the bottom of just about every hierarchy I've been a part of and can never seem to get my brain to work the way that it needs to, to rise up it....I try to correct for my agreeableness and go to far and people think I'm psychotic (maybe I am a bit) or I let people walk all over me. I can't focus on tasks very well. I have very low energy alot of times because of depression or I have too much and I'm manic....idk what to do.

    • @katieb2098
      @katieb2098 4 года назад +4

      Could be ADHD too

    • @Susannamf
      @Susannamf 4 года назад +4

      I know this is really late but I just saw it and thought I'd add - what about autism? Often coexists with ADHD as the other commenter said too. I have several autistic friends whose experience matches yours.

    • @gspcro9047
      @gspcro9047 3 года назад

      This is SO me!

    • @geoattoronto
      @geoattoronto 3 года назад +1

      What makes you think that you are borderline?

    • @FarmersAreCool
      @FarmersAreCool 3 года назад +4

      IS your gut health good ? Maybe you ain't digesting the shit you need.

  • @deyannaf4380
    @deyannaf4380 3 года назад +6

    You Mr. Peterson are absolutely an, amazing, beautiful, astounding person period. Thank you for all you do for every person of humanity!!!

  • @fotzenknecht123123
    @fotzenknecht123123 3 года назад +4

    It is calming to see that there was a time where he used to look at some notes.

  • @edkaeuper5607
    @edkaeuper5607 4 года назад +478

    Every one is nuts one way or the other.

    • @PatM1984VivoCristoRey
      @PatM1984VivoCristoRey 4 года назад +16

      What I think will be intriguing is, in the current culture, what is the bar for "normality ". For instance, would the bar shift in line with the culture? If so, it could get very interesting.

    • @marshallmcluhan33
      @marshallmcluhan33 4 года назад +10

      Look to the past to see the future. It’s easy for me to see faults in others than admit what I have done wrong. I guess that’s what makes life interesting. Good luck everyone.

    • @nessieb8422
      @nessieb8422 4 года назад +2

      Pat M culture is always changing through influence of Hollywood and those behind the scenes.

    • @WickedSchwarz
      @WickedSchwarz 4 года назад

      I missed the “is” and I still thought you were absolutely right 😄

    • @benwinter2420
      @benwinter2420 4 года назад

      That's an truism . . but not Jordans fault as he was an product of his environments scientific insularity . . ironic considering he was an 'professor' . . teaching etc , he unfortunately had a hold of the wrong (shit) end of the stick with his hobby horse bible interpretations aka they were't philosophy . . but allegory for past actual historic events . . as in we as Earth suffered an sun swap from original brown dwarf (z pinch original family ?) Saturn sun aka Satan (now called that under the 'church') . . Peterson went half mad from this (he knew about the EUT) & his substance use issues did't help . . his scientific fourth turning

  • @joannesmith7642
    @joannesmith7642 3 года назад +2

    I don’t remember how I found you - chicken or egg but you and your beautiful soul of a daughter Mikhaila have brightened up my life! - your lectures should be mainstream - wishing you both (and your loved ones) full health and happiness.. ❤️From London UK

  • @PetroleumEngineer07
    @PetroleumEngineer07 4 года назад +662

    I'm an engineer, and I approve this message.

    • @Absolumify
      @Absolumify 4 года назад +64

      I'm an engineer and I approve your message of approving this message

    • @YZFMANIAC08
      @YZFMANIAC08 4 года назад +13

      Absolumify i’m cheese and I like cheese

    • @TrungPham-dk5uj
      @TrungPham-dk5uj 4 года назад +26

      I got rejected from an engineer job so I hate this message

    • @matonmongo
      @matonmongo 4 года назад +62

      I love working with engineers, they're usually analytical and the most free of 'drama', and every problem is simply a matter of discovering the right 'solution'!

    • @carmensandiego420
      @carmensandiego420 4 года назад +6

      I've been dating an engineer for 2 years, I don't understand him at all or what the whole 'engineers are different'stereotype refers to even though I hear it all the time.
      If you could give me any insight it would mean a lot...

  • @eej902
    @eej902 4 года назад +41

    Conscientiousness and productivity = advancement hasn't been true for me in corporate retail! Hard workers stay in their place and don't get offered managerial positions because they're hard to replace. People who get promoted in corporate retail are those who kiss ass & are the most liked by management

    • @strictnonconformist7369
      @strictnonconformist7369 3 года назад +7

      So use positive attributes to move somewhere else, likely a different org, likely a different type of work: you’ve identified what doesn’t work there, so staying is counterproductive if you ever want to advance, right?

    • @GD-tn3ez
      @GD-tn3ez 3 года назад +2

      This is also true of politics. It’s not so much about work ethic, but who you’re aligned with.

    • @unstoppableplayz6948
      @unstoppableplayz6948 3 года назад +1

      Truth

    • @beyondwhatisknown
      @beyondwhatisknown 3 года назад

      Quite. Employers can't take a really good employee out of a place they're being productive. Worse is taking everyone out af places they're productive, putting them into a place they're not up to speed or proven, and then filling their empty post with someone not up to speed that certainly can't do the job as well.
      You heve to be a replacable person to be promoted.
      Maybe Jordan doesn't know that trick.

    • @eej902
      @eej902 3 года назад

      @@beyondwhatisknown yes, the employer can. If, however, the employer has any respect for the honor of the employee. Being "not up to it" is a vague explanation for years of loyalty and diligent behaviour. Being replaceable is: being a halfass, and that is not in some of our vocabularies

  • @kern-sladeengineering1325
    @kern-sladeengineering1325 4 года назад +7

    Watched a good amount of his lectures., Nothing comes out of his mouth without a very logical well though out structure , my brother introduced me to Jordan Peterson and I totally respect the analytical process that he goes through before making any statements , would like to meet him in person

  • @garaa2311
    @garaa2311 4 года назад +16

    I ... love...this...individual!!!!

  • @GamesCooky
    @GamesCooky 4 года назад +33

    I think the intriguing part about Personality Disorders is the whole idea that they are essentially impossible to self diagnose. Symptoms tend to overlap, and your perception of yourself will contain a certain bias. I'll admit that i have looked at some of the symptoms of various Personality Disorders and thought: "I have this and that."
    But it's also very easy to rationalize things and say: "Well, it's probably not that bad. I'm exaggerating." And rationalizing is just something we do as human beings. It's part of that bias of how you perceive yourself. How can you yourself identify what's abnormal behavior when that behavior is normal to you?
    Even when personalities develop into extremely abnormal behavior. I think our perception of what's normal will also gradually change accordingly. Values change, ethics and morals change, interests and fascinations change. And eventually you yourself will start to see these new changes as normal. What's normal is going to be subjective.

    • @claudiamanta1943
      @claudiamanta1943 8 месяцев назад

      There HAS to be a personality disorder to identify abnormality in those who ask themselves whether they have a personality disorder or not (or, generally speaking, if they’re insane in other ways). Also, there has to be something in the DSM 6 ‘Disorder that is not currently diagnosable’.

  • @sneak-a-leek2135
    @sneak-a-leek2135 Год назад +7

    Extremely conscientious individuals look for other people like them to network and subsequently open doors for those people but inadvertently closed doors on their on their intimate relationships. They are amazing robots to date.

  • @joannesmith7642
    @joannesmith7642 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for making me see that my work ethic was worthwhile - looking back I see how it really did pay off - I am blessed and I was just being me - work hard with integrity 🙏

  • @jaychapman2045
    @jaychapman2045 3 года назад +20

    Is it uncommon to desire the experience of being evaluated by this brilliant man!?

    • @generalgrievous-
      @generalgrievous- Год назад

      I think ypu just want to feel truly understood, and wonder if you bring about intrigue to him or not. Maybe.

  • @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
    @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry 11 месяцев назад +1

    I lived with engineers at Queen's University at Kingston for four years. I concur with Dr. Peterson's assessment.

  • @kathy259
    @kathy259 4 года назад +10

    Thank you Peterson. Both of my parents are engineers; that's why I feel so misareble. They don't know how to show compassion and love.

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 3 года назад +4

    I can relate to what he's saying about open doors.. All my life I've had this 'can do', 'dive into the deep end and then try to figure out how to swim' attitude with regard to my work. All kinds of doors started to open for me to engage in satisfying engineering projects beyond my wildest dreams and I've had no formal schooling. I self educated just in time for much of it and often just seemed to have a natural knack for a lot of it. A lot of the people around me had much higher levels of education than I did, but did not have these opportunities and I found that they were most often the kinds of people that focused more on why they 'couldn't' perform the task. It just seemed logical to me that management is looking for people to say, 'no problem, I'll get it done', than having to deal with people who either whine about how hard it is to do things, state things can't be done, and have to have their hands held all the time.

    • @freedahlogic8368
      @freedahlogic8368 2 года назад

      Or maybe you just have a different skill set and perspective. Maybe some of those people were right some of the time. Odds are that was the case. There has been plenty of business endeavour that was ill-advised just as there has been plenty of missed opportunity due to lack of confidence or for other reasons.

  • @yaboy5747
    @yaboy5747 Год назад +1

    That last bit starting at 4:32 is sage wisdom, just like everything else, but in particular for me

  • @christopheranderson2769
    @christopheranderson2769 4 года назад +402

    Have to disagree. It’s my experience. From the workplace. That sponges hire inferior sponges. And being the hard worker keeps you from advancing. Because you would make your superior look bad. I have probably seen people pull this stunt a dozen times. New guy shows up. Shows promise. So all the employees start gossiping. Or turn their heads or backs to them new one. Some will even interrupt conversations and turn around and walk away mid conversation. Anything they can do to stress or destabilize the new person. And then they will go to HR. And management. And start making slanderous accusations. And boom. The status quo is maintained. And the new guy is gone. And they cross their fingers and hope the next will be more agreeable to the clique.

    • @Burdflu
      @Burdflu 4 года назад +84

      sounds like a career in nursing to me.

    • @maiaallman4635
      @maiaallman4635 4 года назад +83

      I couldn't agree more. I seemed to be the only person more interested in doing the actual work than playing company politics.

    • @jasonabercrombie7869
      @jasonabercrombie7869 4 года назад +72

      He isn’t describing the entirety of everyone’s experience in every situation. He is describing one common thing that can happen to abnormally hard workers. In other lectures he describes toxic situations exactly like you related. I’ve definitely seen both. If you’re the only hard worker in a company/group, and you are made miserable and persecuted at every turn then it’s time to move on. That company is circling the drain, and you don’t need to be dragged down too.

    • @raz0rcarich99
      @raz0rcarich99 4 года назад +9

      You gotta realize that they are still conscientious people or else they wouldn't want to eliminate the competition.

    • @CastmanDan
      @CastmanDan 4 года назад +20

      Toxic environments like that exist everywhere, but I'd say Peterson's point still remains valid
      I've been in similar situations before and, while many of my colleagues would have that toxic response to my efforts, I would quickly gain the trust of my direct superiors - through work, no politics or boot-licking. It is good to have the approval of your peers, but in this case, they aren't really the ones who have to notice you and who could open the doors for you.
      Being introverted and not too high on agreeableness and neuroticism, I would simply distance myself from the toxic people and stick with the ones who weren't like that. We established our own circle of mutual cooperation and appreciation and moved on.
      Ironically, the ones who tried to talk us down would look for us for support when they needed later.

  • @andrewheffel928
    @andrewheffel928 4 года назад +7

    JP says in an organization, doors open for hard working diligent people who get things done. Absolutely true, the best advice for getting ahead at work I ever heard. Do the work. Be competent. And you will succeed. Its like a law of the universe.

    • @dogie1070
      @dogie1070 4 года назад +4

      Or you'll be targeted by the losers and your career will be destroyed.

    • @andrewheffel928
      @andrewheffel928 4 года назад +3

      @@dogie1070 Depends on your boss. If he appreciates your hard work, you will advance. And other bosses notice, and they talk. If you get a reputation as being a hard worker and problem solver, doors open.
      My career was pretty interesting, no college. I started in heavy construction over 35 years ago as a laborer. With a shovel. I gave my bosses all I had and learned all I could. I moved up. I ended my career as the manager of the construction estimating department, a very good job. I knew the company president and all the senior VPs. When you do your best, people notice, even if you start with a shovel.

    • @dogie1070
      @dogie1070 4 года назад +1

      @@andrewheffel928 thank you for your encouragement. I had a bad boss, but the other department heads noticed me and wanted to transfer me over. I worked for state of Calif transportation, and we were in a "hard hiring freeze", means no one can transfer. I lost my job due to sabotage, no one believed bc this happened before.
      I lost hope. But what you wrote reminded me that I did earn a good reputation. Thank you. And merry christmas.

    • @andrewheffel928
      @andrewheffel928 4 года назад +3

      @@dogie1070 Sorry to hear that. I had a friend went to work at Cal Trans. He didn't like it. He said you have to pace yourself to not make the others look bad, and advancement came slowly by seniority. He eventually quit and went to work for a private company. My break came at age 32, when I got that job in heavy construction. I moved up slowly because I didnt know a lot, but at least I was treated well. A lot of places play favorites and politics, and union companies have their own ways. I was lucky to work my way up at a place that treated people fairly. I hope you find a place to work that treats you well. Merry Christmas to you, and may God bless you in your life. Never give up.

    • @dogie1070
      @dogie1070 4 года назад +1

      @@andrewheffel928 ❤

  • @malcolmwatt4866
    @malcolmwatt4866 4 года назад +64

    Opportunities can be denied in a social agreement reached by secret prejudicial consensus. The reasoning for this can be as simple as your birthday, or your parentage, or ethnicity, or the color of your eyes. However, opportunities are often denied out of jealousy to steal the unique material because the victim has not been picked by the approved group and there are no penalties for the group because the group is self administrative.

    • @_Colie
      @_Colie 4 года назад +1

      OMG, this is so perfectly explained it hurt. I'm so tired.

    • @noneofyourbeeswaxquinton
      @noneofyourbeeswaxquinton 4 года назад +2

      No one's coming to my December Birthday.

    • @mikitz
      @mikitz 4 года назад +2

      So what? Everyone gets both excluded and included as a result over time. Sure, it's counterproductive to act like this as an employer, what in the end it breaks even the way or another.

  • @Wonmanbanned
    @Wonmanbanned 3 года назад +28

    I was diagnosed with Borderline (male). Non of it ever sat correctly especially as I have had friends that have lasted all my life.
    I struggled with emotional regulation in certain specific circumstances and have struggled with extreme pain with a spinal problem which is triggered bouts of depression.
    After years of wrestling with my diagnosis it has transpired that I have CPTSD as a result of having a parent with NPD.
    Working through things and actually coming to terms in my 40s that a) I am actually of some worth b) I aren’t responsible for everyone else’s feelings c) it is important to look after myself as a primary person in my life rather than trying to please desperately for external validation.
    I’m 42 now and have only been working through this lately. Shedding years of guilt has been most beneficial.

    • @freedahlogic8368
      @freedahlogic8368 2 года назад +1

      Serious question, has the topic of ADHD ever come up for you? both BPD and ADHD are now understood to have sensory and emotional hypersensitivity at their core. I’d be interested to know your thoughts on this and whether you follow any of the discussion regarding what neuroscience can tell us about perception and it’s relationship to personality traits.

  • @shuttly555
    @shuttly555 3 года назад +9

    This man is the definition of being a human

  • @fppro1679
    @fppro1679 Год назад

    Just scratching at the surface of something unbelievably complicated!

  • @myrddingwynedd2751
    @myrddingwynedd2751 4 года назад +36

    If you are human, that`s a good predictor.

  • @evil1by1
    @evil1by1 Год назад

    So basically having feelings of any sort, so very useful

  • @GabrielGosselin
    @GabrielGosselin 4 года назад +32

    “Hurray! Go! Go! Engineers!” [3:16;3:39]

  • @nickmcgarvey6463
    @nickmcgarvey6463 3 года назад +22

    That moment when you realize you're that guy at work with the doors that magically open because no one else around can get anything done...

  • @mckenzie9780
    @mckenzie9780 2 года назад +2

    The contentious thing is very interesting... I'm a college student, and I'm always explaining to myself and my mother that I want to make more what I called "nerdy" friends... people that care immensely and work hard toward their work or education. I've also noticed the doors that people almost willingly close by not doing a bit of extra work to get noticed, in high school I did not see these things as clearly... but I now often view these situations from the outside as if a check box when others or myself make small decisions that greatly impact our social circles (meeting other contentious people) or general opportunities ( lab positions and scholarships)

  • @dobermanpac1064
    @dobermanpac1064 3 года назад +3

    Amazing ... Another man with knowledge and common sense.

  • @jnpowell9077
    @jnpowell9077 4 года назад +95

    We need those nerdy scientific types, I hope they can find wonderful partners to keep those genetic combinations in the mix.

    • @Alex-cp4hi
      @Alex-cp4hi 4 года назад +3

      A pretty good predictor for if someone is going to I guess "cuff" another person who is high in the dominance hierarchy is success and intelligence with a great work ethic. Personality really has only a small role to play at least in the short term

    • @Shortana
      @Shortana 4 года назад +2

      That's the sweetest and at the same time funniest thing I've read 😂

    • @SP-mf9sh
      @SP-mf9sh 4 года назад +1

      Grimes and elon

    • @GeneralChangFromDanang
      @GeneralChangFromDanang 3 года назад

      Luckily, a lot of the nerdy scientific types make a good salary, which is very attractive to potential partners. Even if for the wrong reasons.

  • @ZPS51491
    @ZPS51491 Год назад

    Listening to Jordan Peterson is a good sign.

  • @d.l831
    @d.l831 4 года назад +10

    I wish that I could have had an instructor like Mr. Peterson. I wish even more that I could have sat down in even ONE of his lectures and courses♥️

  • @withallduerespect4223
    @withallduerespect4223 3 года назад +6

    Thanks, Internet Dad

    • @NorCalTooHypper
      @NorCalTooHypper 3 месяца назад +1

      I wish he could have been my father, his daughter is so lucky!

    • @josephsimontacchi2285
      @josephsimontacchi2285 2 месяца назад +1

      Don’t you wish basic Psychology was Required in College. We are left to try to figure it out with no knowledge. Hence, the climbing Divorce and now falling Marriage rates.

  • @stupidguy97
    @stupidguy97 4 года назад +309

    I liked his point about opportunities not opening up for low-conscientiousness people, and them not being aware of it. I've noticed in college that the high-conscientiousness, high-IQ people tended to stick together in a way, seeking each other out and quietly shunning those who were not quite up to their standards. "What a bunch of snobbish a-holes" was my thought then, but it actually does seem that being conscientious opens doors in the most unexpected of ways.
    Being conscientious is like increasing the expected value (EV) of living. You might not get what you want immediately, or even at all, but you greatly swing the odds in your favor. And given the (hidden?) uncertainties in this life, that's perhaps all you can really do.

    • @feartheghus
      @feartheghus 4 года назад +26

      People tend to just group up mostly with similar people for many reasons. I’ve namely found the reason the top players in any game (game being metaphorical in the sense of classes and the like) group up because they’ll be doing similar things, actually seeing each other at the review sessions, and namely because all the top members of any class have at least a basic respect for skill in that field, so when you meet and constantly see other people who also work hard and are good at what you like and are good at that leads rather naturally to openings for friendship.

    • @75hilmar
      @75hilmar 4 года назад +5

      Well, also you definitely have a decent part of conscientiousness in you which means that you appreciate this property and wouldn't want to live without it.

    • @katalazar3080
      @katalazar3080 4 года назад

      @fynes leigh oh no personality is not of that kind. And mentioned personality desorder, well it was hard to read all the word salad you wrote here, just to attack somebody you don't know at all. Let me guess, you are a narcissist on a dry season? No any victims around? Come attack me now. You will just prove me I am right with that

    • @thomas-ud1fs
      @thomas-ud1fs 3 года назад

      It's the intentional destruction of a high trust society

    • @dariankaltenbach8062
      @dariankaltenbach8062 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, but they're also not the type to turn against the status quo when it becomes corrupt.

  • @LittleRayofSunshine69750
    @LittleRayofSunshine69750 3 года назад +2

    I have empthay, am introverted and I have a personality disorder.

  • @ithacacomments4811
    @ithacacomments4811 2 года назад +29

    My father was a mechanical engineer.
    My first husband was a mechanical engineer.
    My second husband was a mechanical engineer.
    Peterson is spot on!
    Work comes first....everything else is out there in a fog.
    I belive that most engineers are Aspies (autism spectrum)....brilliant in their fields of interest.
    But, a relationship with them is a nightmare.

    • @SteviePaints
      @SteviePaints Год назад

      Agree.

    • @Tomm9y
      @Tomm9y Год назад +1

      Skilled dedicated engineers, have delivered, maintain and continue to design and implement extrordinary technologies, projects which the other 99% odd derive huge benefit from. We need to understand how to perceive ourselves honestly. An engineer may say that a relationship with someone like you (whatever that is), is a nightmare. That is a challenge for all, to maintain an evolving arrangement, learning and adaptation with others.

    • @Sue-ck5yk
      @Sue-ck5yk Год назад +1

      After dealing with my ex, a workaholic engineer sounds like a big step up. Then again, narcissists never set that bar high.

    • @MariePryor-n8z
      @MariePryor-n8z Год назад

      People with npd and autism often get confused with one another. Autistic people miss certain social cues but have the capacity to feel terrible if someone lets them know they ve hurt someone. The person with npd feigns empathy to look respectable, get their way and gaet ahead. The narcissistic male adult will abuse his wife and scapegoat child privately seriously enough to cause them to be mentally and or emotionally symptomatic but look supportive all the way in front of the so called professional who for the above reasons should have the capacity to help the abused individual.

    • @jackyleblanc6460
      @jackyleblanc6460 Год назад

      because you can’t actually have one. Autism is a communication disorder. It is narcissism in its ultimate form. Without empathy, there is no exchange, no intimacy or understanding. You have to have intimate, not necessarily sexual, empathetic relationships or you will starve emotionally and get sick. Turn outside to others capable of empathy.

  • @estebannestares2745
    @estebannestares2745 4 года назад +8

    Jordan Peterson es una mente brillante, lúcido e inspirador. Lo admiro profundamente.

  • @serving1951
    @serving1951 Год назад +1

    Diligence, conscientiousness and industriousness 04:15

  • @cra6459
    @cra6459 3 года назад +3

    fantastic motivational speaker in every way possible

  • @titaniumtiara4573
    @titaniumtiara4573 4 года назад +17

    I’m gonna have to watch this a couple times

  • @janelleyharris5042
    @janelleyharris5042 10 месяцев назад

    He's so easy to listen to!

  • @vivianalouise8877
    @vivianalouise8877 4 года назад +19

    I think he is more so describing the predictors of having narcissistic personality disorder (and maybe other cluster B personality disorders) than the predictors of all personality disorders. For example, personality disorders like DPD and AvPD would more likely be associated with high agreeableness

    • @PhatTran-rm8th
      @PhatTran-rm8th 4 года назад +1

      True.

    • @Zurvan101
      @Zurvan101 4 года назад

      I have Avpd and cptsd and I couldn't agree with you more.

  • @kenwebster5053
    @kenwebster5053 4 года назад +16

    Conscientiousness is a 2 edge sword. In my experience it lead to being given the toughest, practically impossible tasks that no one else wants or is capable to tackle. This in turn leads to very long term projects which is of course a low completion rate. Talk about burn out and low rewards despite exceedingly important and significant achievements ......

  • @spineangle9611
    @spineangle9611 3 года назад +1

    This may have been the best oral expression my sense of hearing ever experienced

  • @holographicc6974
    @holographicc6974 4 года назад +21

    Here’s one: 1. Cognitive Dissonance. You say and do different things
    2. Restlessness

  • @henryp6785
    @henryp6785 3 года назад +4

    Every time I listen to this guy I always feel he has already told me way more than he knows.

  • @emmy-kz1pj
    @emmy-kz1pj 3 месяца назад

    My mum is so industrious. And has quite a few friends. I think when people are a bit lost they like to be around her too. They see someone who is fixing so many things all the time and doing so many things. It's great getting being around someone who is constantly achieving tasks and not spending too much time thinking about it. If she has a problem she can't solve eg she's not so good with maths and accounting she will go to someone and sort that out quickly too. Everything in life gets done fast.

  • @cess4089
    @cess4089 4 года назад +49

    I’m not ambitious. But I do get stuff done. Then people put me forward for praise or advancement. I am uncomfortable with that. I like to get stuff done in the background and only take on what I can handle. I hate being volunteered for being the leader. I hate nagging and bossing others. I want to take care of my piece and have it be done.

    • @cassl7456
      @cassl7456 4 года назад +5

      sounds like you are a natural leader if others are pushing you to the front, whether that was your intention or not

    • @James-zy5lh
      @James-zy5lh 4 года назад +4

      I'd say you're ambitious in your own way. I took the other route and went immediately into management and worked my way up the proverbial ladder. There are certainly perks up there, but there is also a lot of nonsense that comes with it. There's nothing wrong with no wanting that type of career path because there are plenty of others that pay just as well, if not for, for you to be a highly skilled worker bee.

    • @magnusr.poulsen2437
      @magnusr.poulsen2437 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your input. I have no problem being a leader even though I too want to work in the background and push my Peers infront, but I often put myself in that leading role if I’m forced into a group project where people take way too long time getting to action because people are afraid of stepping on each other’s toes (typical Danish stereotypical thing; look up “jante’s law” for more context) so i always 9/10 take the initiative for a group as can’t be bother with this and people small talk + you just made me realize I also do to get back to my regular peace i love as I’m low in conscientiousness.

  • @G3orgianSoldier
    @G3orgianSoldier 4 года назад +25

    I read the title as "Predictors of having a good personality disorder".

  • @nickpink25
    @nickpink25 Год назад

    So right about relationships & Im to agreeable

  • @michellewei9139
    @michellewei9139 4 года назад +56

    Interesting thing...in college I was voted "most conscientious" by my peers. I know now that I have undiagnosed ADHD. I dropped out of school due to panic attacks associated with fear of success and fear of failure. If only I knew I had ADHD, I could have taken medication and completed school!

    • @johnk4934
      @johnk4934 4 года назад +7

      Your path not taken doesn't yet control your future.
      Meds are a dead-end deal, eventually.

    • @freedahlogic8368
      @freedahlogic8368 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for contributing. I wish more people understood the emotional and sensory hypersensitivity which underpins both BPD and ADHD. Ignorance abounds regarding ADHD and it’s sad that psychologists often don’t avail themselves of the expertise of psychiatry in regard to adhd and the role medication can play as treatment before they form views about medication based only on their knowledge of psychology and their assumptions about motive before they publish them to millions of people.

    • @joolslorien3936
      @joolslorien3936 Год назад +1

      Exact same story in my life too 😮

    • @caronyardley8834
      @caronyardley8834 Год назад

      You had what's called 'Imposter Syndrome' something a lot of high achievers and conscientious people have. And it doesn't require drugs.

    • @gabrielleann3932
      @gabrielleann3932 Год назад +1

      Lucky you didn’t take drugs

  • @kareno7848
    @kareno7848 4 года назад +92

    Introverts know extroverts are vampires who feed off others energy. We introverts can feel it draining. That's why we stay home.

    • @caleb1031
      @caleb1031 4 года назад +4

      This implies that energy transfers from one person to another. In that case how can parties exist? How do people have healthy relationships?
      I am about as introverted as one can get, yet I don't believe that for a second.

    • @tylerbeaumont
      @tylerbeaumont 4 года назад +1

      As an introvert turned extrovert, I'd have to disagree. There isn't too much draining from an introvert talking to his/her friends, but as an extrovert, loneliness is very draining. I definitely see what you mean, some people are very extroverted and very tiring, but as an ex-loner turned extrovert, it's way more draining to be alone than taking to annoying people ever was

    • @caleb1031
      @caleb1031 4 года назад +1

      ​@Cherry Ember ah, I've done it again.

    • @VividFizzy
      @VividFizzy 3 года назад +9

      Ah introverts and their pseudo intellectual self agrandizing bullshit they spin for lacking the basic drive to get off their ass and build some interpersonal communication skills. Much easier to be lazy and socially inept and use a blanket statements of "extroverts" being the reason for your own pathologies and failures. Seems legit lol
      I am an introvert, and I hate this stupid rationale by people who think they're smart by default just because they're not extroverted.

    • @vrrrrrr-uwu
      @vrrrrrr-uwu 3 года назад +4

      Elijah Tarin Ah, an extrovert that has clearly made 0 effort to actually understand introversion, claiming introverts lack a “basic drive”, and that they don’t have interpersonal skills. Perhaps you lack the basic drive to know what the hell you’re talking about before you open your fat mouth?

  • @katiemiaana
    @katiemiaana 3 года назад +1

    The bit about agreeable people talking about relationships omg that hit home. I’m highly agreeable and get walked over and so i try to not be agreeable but get stressed because I don’t want to offend so basically relationships romantic and work have been a nightmare

  • @Trizzer89
    @Trizzer89 4 года назад +3

    My interpersonal skills are.. intertsting, thanks JP

  • @Earthad23
    @Earthad23 4 года назад +566

    So what you’re saying is lobsters are sexist ?

    • @AnnabellaRedwood
      @AnnabellaRedwood 4 года назад +29

      Lobsters don't think women should be paid the same amount of money as men. 😂😂😂

    • @Alexlinnk
      @Alexlinnk 4 года назад +2

      Man, that meme it's like 2 years old

    • @s0bad
      @s0bad 4 года назад +3

      I understood that reference

    • @Earthad23
      @Earthad23 4 года назад +8

      Alex so what you’re saying is this is played out ?

    • @treizeepyon5799
      @treizeepyon5799 4 года назад +1

      i got that reference

  •  3 года назад

    When I am at what appears to be an apocalyptic dark mental state, I judge my situation more objectively by Dr Jordan's guidance. His video on resentment assured me I was within my rights to push back, even if I am wrong. Brillant man. Hope hes well.

  • @geraldmilhoan123
    @geraldmilhoan123 4 года назад +3

    I avoid these problems by living alone,attempting to master my own life.
    People get in the way and stunt my growth.

  • @thedolphin5428
    @thedolphin5428 3 года назад +5

    At 1:00.
    "Anyways ... ... ..."
    Jordan senses he's going into dangerous territory to be calling actors narcissists, and thus returns to main theme 🤣🤣🤣!!!

  • @watermelonlalala
    @watermelonlalala 3 года назад

    I wouldn't take every word out of his mouth as solid gold. There are a number of very good comments posted here from people who disagree somewhat or completely with things he said.

  • @ArgentWolf95
    @ArgentWolf95 2 года назад +4

    He looks much younger here, you can tell he loved teaching and what he does. His more recent interviews show he has become more wiser and Philosophical. I aven't watched a lot of him, but every interview I have watched him in, he's very good at teaching ideas, and helping others, even with his own recent struggles. Only thing I'd say is he looked more tired in the last one I saw of him.

    • @bernieoconnell5515
      @bernieoconnell5515 Год назад

      I think weight loss didn’t suit him. He looks years younger here.handsome man nonetheless and great thinker.

    • @ArgentWolf95
      @ArgentWolf95 Год назад

      @@bernieoconnell5515 he's gone through a lot in the last year in particular, but the last few as well. I still have high respect for him even if I don't follow his more religious side. My analysis was more on it seems like a much better time.
      Arguably it was for all of us. One thing I can say is i'll always respect him for teaching me how to find my purpose again, I had 3 great men who did.

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    @backspaceninja9860 4 года назад +8

    I’d like to meet him someday.