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Nice review. Own the BYD Atto3 since Aug 2022. 23k traveled average 13.5 kw-h per 100km over that entire distance, mixture of city and county driving. City driving only around 480km, country 360-390km usually with four people and a hairy dog, NZ roads. Can charge to 100% with the LFP blade battery without worrying about degradation. Really happy with this car and quality. No issues apart from annoying safety warning system that can be turned off everytime. Ps no rattles or annoying noises so far. Highly recommend.
If I have 50k, my money is on the Seal, but if I have to choose between the two, its the Atto 3, better build, way better battery, better quality interior and much better value...
You might wait until around July 2024. CATL announced it will halve the price for its batteries until then. BYD definitely won't keep the prices up then either.
you should compare apple to apple…… China got tons of models of EVs around 70K, I don’t know why you choose the basic BYD, if you want good looking car you can go with NEO XPENG Li….. BYD is a volume producer what do you expect?
@@trinity1203 can't fault a good product, also I dare you to say the same about Toyota or ford "ahh ford lovers are American lovers" your logic falls apart upon further inspection
Just on looks this brit🇬🇧 preferes the look of the BYD. looks smoother and less " designed for design sakes)on the outside atleast. And on the inside it seems the design team were given total freedom to design to a cost point.
Had an Atto 3 for about 12 months now and found it to be a great car especially around the city. My wife drives it the majority of the time as I have a dual cab and find that we drive the Atto most of the time on weekends with the occasional drive down the Bruce to Brisbane from the Fraser Coast and it's great on the highway and would make the distance easily but we usually charge along the way anyway. Yes it has the odd quirks and features (Sorry Doug...) but overall we are loving it.
They would do well, but we both know what will happen is yanks will complain about competition and suddenly find some "nation security" issue with the cars and force our government in Australia to ban them as well. Our government will say yes sir anything you say sir.
@@EmbraceMadnezZ The world's largest EV producer and second largest battery producer is miles ahead of Hyundai. That you don't know this, but think your comment matters, is a poor reflection on yourself. GO LEARN!
Hi thanks for your video. I will absolutly pick Atto3 over the Kona. Atto3 has better Quality and range in the Swedish winter climate .. I do love the voice commands..works grate and it feels safe with OTA updates. And Atto has no rattel anyware.
@@Maige2900You mean the poorly calibrated and intrusive autonomous systems that are more dangerous than Tesla autopilot? Did you get your 0.50 RMB for that comment?
@@centralkingdom8141no but they are pitching well to motability customers where it offers zero initial payment to disabled customers. This is cheaper than MG ZS and not just the trophy either. For that it becomes a bargain option but only to disabled drivers. I’m very tempted because of it
Hyundai Kona is also a Chinese car, its uses Batteries from CATL (The biggest Chinese battery maker in the world ) the electric motor is also made by Chinese company (i forgot the name). Only the name and the casing is Korean
Sorry, the front of the BYD is symmetrical and smart with headlights that look real. That Kona charge port ruins the otherwise okay look. 4 star vs 5 star (competition over, inexcusable Hyundai). You can buy a really well packaged aftermarket space saver for $900 to suit Atto with jack etc included. You remove the lower floor and it fits straight in. The boots are then equal for that spend. $1k on a set of Continental 235/50 tyres and you are still $1k cheaper than the cheapest Kona. Add a frunk ($10 Bunnings) basket. You didn't mention voice activation on BYD. Does Kona have it even? Yes, driver display is a win for 4☆Kona.
ATTO2 (yuan up) will be launched in China soon, and the price should be around 22,000 Australian dollars. This is a small car with CTB chassis technology, which is the same technology as seal. It definitely feels good to drive
@@aasamspb967 I have to disagree with you. The dmax will last long. The triton will last long. All three are, logically speaking, on the same level yet only one costs a fortune. And that's excluding the new platform cars such as the Ranger and Amarok and the yet to be released new triton.
@@ramajyello well. Then it's the brand name. Isuzu is not a big brand like Toyota outside of Japan. Mitsubishi is generally not considered as a reliable brand like Toyota and Honda everywhere around the globe. They might be good now but the damage has already been done. So unless people stop buying the expensive Hilux Toyota doesn't need to lower their prices. I mean come on if people are not buying it Toyota will lower their prices. So educate the people, I guess.
@@ramajyello it's the same here in India. Indian companies are able to make well build cars with premium looking interior but Toyota is selling Fortuner with a high price. Fortuner is good looking on the outside. But the Indian companies beat the Toyotas in terms of features and design. But people buy the Toyotas with that hefty price. When people ask why owners reply it will last long (which is true). And when it's Toyotas hybrid a big car like that will only drink the fuel like a small car. But if people are buying, Toyota has no reason to lower the price. Financially abled people (not talking about the rich, but the upper middle class) in India might buy a bad Toyota car with high price because of the brand name. Both Hyundai and BYD and any other company don't have that power all over the world.
Had the Atto for over a year. Love it to bits, wonderful drive and ride, simply outstanding value. Super easy to drive, love the entertainment system, opening roof and sun shade. Access is very good particularly for those less able. I have to carry a wheelchair and it easily fits the back of the Atto. Finally, lots of grunt and good range. I rarely use DC chargers and around here they are mostly 50KW. My typical time on the DC charger is 20 mins.
Similar points to yours. Also have carted home 2.4metre Ikea flat packs, which amazed the staff who thought it would never fit. And last week it was a washing machine which made it in the back with millimetres to spare. Already go my money back on carrying loads and saving on delivery fees!
The LFP chemistry of the BYD is much LESS energy dense than the the NMC chemistry of the Kona. This means that the battery is bigger and heavier than the equivalent capacity. However, it is much safer being less prone to thermal runaway. Wouldn't have a car without it.
He is talking about the entire battery pack, and you are talking about the battery cells. Because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery. Pack energy density is higher. LG is a soft pack battery, and the battery pack requires a high-strength battery pack casing.
@@MrGearoid65I suggest you take a look at the car taxes in Turkey. It’s the craziest in the world. We pay 80% + 20% for small cars and it goes up to 220% + 20% Yes. You read it right.
To me BYD looks much better. I saw the Hyundai the other day on the street. I was shocked by the front, where the light line goes across the front and the front lights BELOW that line! And they were quite dark. Soooo weird! That the charging is in the front is really a stupid idea.
In my country (India), Kona isn’t available. But assuming that it comes at a similar price point as BYD Atto 3, I would never choose Kona over Atto. This is because a lot of Kia Seltos and Hyundai run on the road, and a couple of my friends and family members own them the interior of Kona is no different to that. Having too much hard plastics, constant rattling noise, dual display integrated in the same manner makes it feel less value as compared to Atto which has premium feel because of the rotating infotainment screen, soft touch material and sport seats with extra support. So overall, Atto provides better feel to the owner
hyundai is the world 3rd largest car manufacturer now. they have repair services in many places. BYD probably doesn't have official repair services. Chinese people's don't invest money in customer services.
Recommended this channel to my friends. Yes, the BYD is really so much better than Hyundai, not to mention it costs less, really good value for money. My friend has driven BYD atto 3 for 2 years travelled 60kms, no ANY issues at all. yes, zero issues！
The Kona uses almost 10+ year old NCM6, not de facto industry standard NCM8/9. The Kona is after all an entry-level EV. LFP is also for entry-level, low-range EVs due to its low-energy density and weight -- and outcompetes against NCM6 in price.
@@chrischen7092 : just to be sure, Chinese's battery competitors' key advantage is their raw material cost. The raw material cost for NCM8/9 already cheaper than LFP -- we would just have to wait a few years for NCM8/9 to be commodified .
Mistake in the video @ around 8:20 you say the LiFe battery in the Atto 3 is more energy dense than the lithium ion battery (probably NMC) in the Kona. It's the other way around. You getting more Wh per kg with lithium ion chemisties as opposed to LiFePO4.
He is talking about the entire battery pack, and you are talking about the battery cells. Because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery. Pack energy density is higher. LG is a soft pack battery, and the battery pack requires a high-strength battery pack casing.
@@yudogcome5901 >> because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, > BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery.
@@yudogcome5901 Sorry - he specifically said LiFe is more energy dense which is just plain wrong. Both batteries are around the same size (64kWh) so even that argument makes zero sense. The Kona is lighter because the battery is more energy dense - more kWh per kg
@@yudogcome5901 LFP batteries are effective in lowering vehicle prices, but their physical energy density is inevitably low. China can't catch up with Korea in NCM battery technology at all. However, the current issue in the electric vehicle market is that the price is high compared to the insufficient infrastructure, so LFP appears attractive because the low-priced market is the trend. However, as time goes by, as the production cost of electric vehicles decreases and expensive brands become EVs, LFP will disappear from luxury brands.
BYD hybrid should be better. BYD hybrid has beaten up Toyota's hybrid in Chinese market because BYD has much bigger batteries(longer battery range) and drives much smoother and quicker.
Kona looks cool at the front, and lousy at the back IMO. Those rear lights are frumpy - and ugly. On the interior it's no contest, the BYD is much cooler. The LFP battery on the BYD is handy, but the charging is slow if you charge publicly compared to others. The regen on the BYD leads to longer range in the city than the WLTP, but shorter on the highway where there is less braking.
To save your battery life, Manufacturer recommended charging you battery between 20% to 80%. but not with BYD's LFP batteries, you can easily to 10% to 90% (or 100%, just after 90%, charging getting slow)
All lithium ion batteries, including LFP, suffer degradation under high SOC. LFP however has to be charged to 100% because it has a flat discharge curve which makes it difficult for the BMS to estimate accurate SOC/range without recalibrating the BMS.
@@tooltalk LFPs are expected to have significantly higher cycle life, so when you talk about degradation I am assuming you mean significantly less degradation.
@@GDM22 LFP has significantly higher lifespan under stationary batteries (or ESS) workload. They don't last nearly as long in moving vehicles (or EV) workload, which is why LFP is mostly deployed in compact/small EVs. There are different aging mechanisms for different workload and a lot of rabid Tesla fanbois intentionally conflate the two to hype up Tesla's use of inferior batteries in SR models. EDIT: spelling and missing words
@@tooltalk Where did you get that inforrmation from, reference it. Watched a Cleanerwatt video early 2024 and the LFP battery degradation using Tessie Global data shows that after 45,000 miles, the LFP models have the lowest degradation at 2%. The NCM 4680 batteries have 3x that amount. Nothing like large sample realworld data to cut through the b_llsh_t.
The Kona looks too much like the Xpeng G9. And like a knockoff version of the G9 for that matter. That's why I hate it. Can't believe the Koreans would steal a design like that.
Don't mention the new Hyundai Santa Fe is a completely rip off of Rover. And their Genesis looks like terrible imitator of Bentley. I seriously lost all my respect for Korean brands, they used to have unique and slick designs back in 2010s.
@@mgm5316 Just look at the Li Auto L Series and Xpeng. All these are cars that were released before the Kona. And itʼs very clear the Kona's designers were trying to ape their design.
Neither are stunners , the byd is a little bit bland on the front end .The konas corner light clusters looks very old world and is too low ,so even a mi!d bump gonna shatter either corner , back or front. The kona from side veiw has awful looking arches , like they were stuck on as a after thought when the designers went for lunch . havnt bothered to go further as in battery and interior. Bus has a opening sunroof and a good size more responsive screen either in portrait or horizontal. Think the atto is less boring even with a few things which are weird , like guitar string type door pockets.
Looks are very subjective. For me, I much prefer the loook of the BYD Atto 3 over the Hyundai Kona. The Hyundai looks very gimmicky and you're right, the charge port right on the front bumper is a terrible idea.
8:00 byds lfp battery claims puncture resistance without catching on fire. You can yt search the tests. Im not sure about the older li-ion tech of the kona.
We can’t get the BYD or any of the other Chinese EVs like Nio or Onvo here in the States. Our EV selection is so far behind its gross. They do have used 2023 and 2024 Kona electric for around 30k US though. Do you see it as a worthy car closer to that price point? I’d love an EV (my ford Fusion energi plug in EV just got recalled so I’m in the market for a car with no time to research). Thanks.
I think the BYD looks way better personally, also the turn signal on the Kona triggers me a bit, why TF is it so low to the ground? That throws me off any time I see a Kona while driving around....
Don't mislead people with strange comments. There are significant differences between NCM batteries and LFP in terms of physical characteristics. LFP batteries should be 40% cheaper. Do not buy an electric vehicle that does not use NCM batteries. After a few years, LFP battery cars lose their value. Currently, the best performance and control for electric vehicles is the Hyundai EGMP Module. Do not confuse car users with inaccurate information.
Why would LFP batteries lose their value after a few years. The next version of the Blade battery has 25% higher energy density and CATL have an LFP battery coming to market with a 15 year, 1.5 million km warranty with zero degradation after 500,000kms.
A lot of people don't know this but BYD doesn't actually stand for anything. They just made the Build Your Dreams up later. That's why it's so easy to get rid of. 😂
나는 한국 사람으로 호주인들에게 미안한 이야기를 한다. 코나는 과거 처음 설계 되고 제조 되었을 당시 기준으로는 좋은 차 였고, 지금도 좋은 차가 맞지만 현대가 수년 전 부터 주력으로 밀고 있는 E-GMP가 아닌 기존 코나 내연차를 전기차로 개조한 구형이다. 즉, 오늘 날의 현대 기술 중 구형 기술에 속한 것인데, 현대가 호주에서 저 가격을 받고 있는 것은 호주에 미안한 일이다. 현대의 전기차 기술은 E-GMP가 적용 되면서 IONIC 5와 EV6에서 충분히 그 가치를 보여주었다. 한국에서는 코나가 아이오닉5 보다 싼데, 호주에서는 아이오닉5를 얼마에 판매하는지 모르겠다. 한국에서는 ATTO3는 관심 대상 자체가 못되고, 씰은 눈여겨 보는 층이 일부 존재하며, 해외 완성차 기업 중 전기차는 주로 테슬라, 포르쉐 정도를 본다. 전기차의 종합적인 기술은 아직 한국이 중국 보다는 당연히 앞서 있지만, 가성비 측면에서 영상에 나온대로 코나가 ATTO3에 미치지 못해 보인다. 대신 EV6를 비교 대상으로 하였다면 가격 차이 이상의 품질 차이는 있다는 것을 보증한다. 소비자 입장에선 가성비가 우선 되는 사람들이 많은데, 이 가성비에서 중국차를 따라 잡을 수 있는 기존의 완성치 기업이 없기 때문에 높은 호응을 이해한다. 그러나 나라면 테슬라나 EV6를 선택하겠다. 그리고 BYD의 SEAL은 기대하는 사람들이 적지 않아서 ATTO3와는 관심의 양이나 질이 다르다.
My opinion the BYD looks better The Kia feels like there was epty space on a body pnel and the they stuck a light in there and did not bother to align it
The BIGGEST plus about the Atto 3 is that the battery is the only difference - as far as I know. Everything else is the same. No bullshit where you need to upgrade for certain features.
@DukeLM I don't need to test it Wumao, I just need to observe actual incidents that have happened in China where BYD vehicles involved in serious accidents with other cars have had instances where airbags have failed to deploy.
Just drove a demo kona ev (50km on it and they're asking $73500, so we are not sure but with 5yr peace of mind im tempted after filling car up with premium fuel today)
I test drove the byd and wanted to buy it, but my wife wanted to buy something else, so we bought a more expensive one; the Xpeng G6 seems it has some higher tech stuff that's better than atto3 like surround smart voice command; no need to say "hi" back passenger say open windown(his window) opens... and self park/drive... and wifi... and phone controls.... n 755km range.... 800V fast charging...
That is all dependent on how they are used, for most an Atto is a city car, and EVs are unbeatable as city cars especially if you have off street parking for charging. The complexity of a Hyrbid drive train for me is completely off putting.
There are more than 1.5 billion Chinese people around the world. If they say they like each other in comments, the comments become meaningless. Anyone can see that BYD has an old design and has not been verified.
So which one wins if comparing a new Atto 3 with a *second hand* top spec Hyundai Kona EV? I'm tossing up options for the second car, urban duties only, work commuting and runnings errands in the metro area only. Still got an ICE for road trips. BYD Atto 3, far better vehicle and actually modern tech on a dedicated EV platform, but starts at $48k drive away. Or get a top spec 2019 Hyundai Kona second hand with less than 40,000km for $38k. No remaining 5 year vehicle warranty, balance of 8 year battery warranty. Or the real cheap ass option, MG ZS EV, very basic vehicle but only $35k drive away. For basic urban transport and no road trip plans, hard to beat that price.
When it comes to battery, you're telling a lie. Kona's battery(NCM) is way more durable than BYD's battery(LFP). Even charge more than 80%, it doesn't effect on NCM battery's durability. Ironically LFP battery needs to be charged 100% to calibrate. Because voltage gap in LFP battery is so small that it is hard to calculate the remaining battery. And also NCM battery's C-Rate is way more higher than LFP considering usage in car. LFP battery is originally made for ESS so that it guarantee the durability in 0.5 C-rate. But when we drive, average C-rate is higher than 0.5 which affects negative influence to durability. And C-rate also affects to charging speed. As we can see in your video, kona's charging speed is faster than BYD. It means NCM battery can charge fast and safe. At last, recently in the US, many teslas die because of the super low temperature. Mostly Those teslas are using LFP battery. As a car reviewer, need to check the fact and study but you seems not...
@@cosmoobserver3416 well... I think you don't have knowledge about C-Rate. LFP is not suitable for HIGH C-RATE. And it means easy to fire and explode. In the official spec sheet from LFP manufactor(BYD, CATL), Stable C-Rate of LFP battery is 0.5C. Compare to LFP, NCM battery's(latest SK Hynix 9+) stable C-rate is more than 5C to 6C which is 10 times higher than LFP battery. Considering average driving C-rate is 2C, LFP has lower stable C-rate than it needs. So, inevitably, it keeps using more than 0.5C and it can damage battery life cycle and cause the fire. At last, almost electric car fire accidents(including hybrid) are using LFP battery. Belief is free, but Science doesn't change.
Having to look at that motor cycle screen, along with lack of button controls would drive me crazy. .Your report seemed to indicate a better driving experience in the Kona. BYD with its integrated headrest and lack of lumbar support sounds terrible for long trips. Kona is just too expensive . With the BYD , you get what you paid for. I've just read this morning the $$ prices have dropped significantly $ 44 plus on roads for the New Atto 3 . Also better tyres . Makes it a no brainer .
@@jxmai7687 I am sure he would be, but BYDs relative to other brands are well priced in Australia, it is all relative, that is what matters, paying a lot more for another car because you can buy an Atto in China a lot cheaper is a rediculous argument.
After reviewing all the comments, the common thing among BYD admirers is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you shouldn't lie.
Coming from your previous byd ATTO 3 review video and you mentioned it is a Medium SUV in that video but are stating it is a Small SUV in this video? Which is it please? 😭
If you hit anything hard enough to damage the charge port you are not driving home in either car, long wheel base means front tyre damage, and or radiator damage.
@jimmyp1433 I remember Clarkson from Top Gear was testing the autonomous emergency braking on a Mazda. It literally hit the wall at least than 3mph and broke the radiator and rendered the car useless. All modern cars are extremely vulnerable at the front so it will make no difference where the charge port is. Bad location? Yes, but will have the same outcome, a completely un drivable car.
So I am going to go against the grain because everyone seems to be in support of your review. We bought the Kona premium over the Atto 3. Our opinion is it is nicer inside and out, nicer to drive and the one pedal drive (which you conveniently didn’t mention) in the Kona is just awesome. Also Kona has HUD and BYD does not. There are a lot of things you left out. It has better warranty, cheaper to service and local dealers. Also Hyundai to us is more trusted than something that has recently come in to Aus. Yes I do agree the price point is about $4k too high. But I reckon that’s Hyundai Aus ripping Aussies off because all the govt incentives cap off at $68k. So they have just made it that to reap some dollars back. However we novated leased the vehicle and saving is great. Makes it the same price as the Kona hybrid and it is a much better car to drive. BTW we have no rattles and the front charging port is not an issue. I don’t know why people are hung up on it. Just trying to knock the Kona down to meet your agenda. Yes it is not overall appealing being at the front, but it is very handy being at there front too. That’s my opinion and I’m sure people will want to disagree. Also I test drived the Toyota BZ4X and I actually think the Kona is nicer than it.
He is talking about the entire battery pack, and you are talking about the battery cells. Because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery. Pack energy density is higher. LG is a soft pack battery, and the battery pack requires a high-strength battery pack casing.
In USA and Canada, Hyundai is dealing with the PR nightmare of the $60k battery replacement cost. Is that happening in Australia? As for the charging port in front…..after driving on the highway in the summer…. I don’t want to touch that cover…..
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As much as you love the look of Kona, do you feel the same way as I do that it looks like a mini version of a Li (Lixiang) EV - ONE, L7, L8 and L9?
If its the same price, which would you choose?
Nice review. Own the BYD Atto3 since Aug 2022. 23k traveled average 13.5 kw-h per 100km over that entire distance, mixture of city and county driving. City driving only around 480km, country 360-390km usually with four people and a hairy dog, NZ roads. Can charge to 100% with the LFP blade battery without worrying about degradation. Really happy with this car and quality. No issues apart from annoying safety warning system that can be turned off everytime. Ps no rattles or annoying noises so far. Highly recommend.
Apparently the Seal has a fuse in the fuse box you can pull, and it turns off the driver warnings, but it also turns off cruise control,
In the latest update you can turn off the safety system permanently, if I recall correctly.
nice car 👍
你说的警告是车道保持警告吧。
It's best not to shut him down, because he may save your life at a critical moment! Finally, it is really a good car!
There’s BYD Atto everwhere in Malaysia. Reckon they doing great here. I was told they are dominating the ev market in Thailand as well.
they are actually, just arrived in Thailand 2 days ago, heaps of BYD Atto3
@@twowheelsandcroissantit's been years in Thai sir, even early than Malaysia
Indonesia and The Philippines!
I think he's talking about Indonesia@@howcc6973
BYD established a factory in Thailand though
If I have 50k, my money is on the Seal, but if I have to choose between the two, its the Atto 3, better build, way better battery, better quality interior and much better value...
You might wait until around July 2024. CATL announced it will halve the price for its batteries until then. BYD definitely won't keep the prices up then either.
Agreed. 52K for the dynamic seal is better.
At 50k price, you can get the Atto 3 ext. or you can get a Seal Dynamic. Both of which are much much better than the Hyundai.
you should compare apple to apple…… China got tons of models of EVs around 70K, I don’t know why you choose the basic BYD, if you want good looking car you can go with NEO XPENG Li….. BYD is a volume producer what do you expect?
Anyway. It is up to everyone's choice and preference.
Personally more like the look of BYD.
Totally agree 👍
yes.... don't think Kona will age well
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
@@trinity1203 let's see how many people will like your comment.
@@trinity1203 can't fault a good product, also I dare you to say the same about Toyota or ford "ahh ford lovers are American lovers" your logic falls apart upon further inspection
Just on looks this brit🇬🇧 preferes the look of the BYD.
looks smoother and less " designed for design sakes)on the outside atleast.
And on the inside it seems the design team were given total freedom to design to a cost point.
BYD's chef designer is former Audi chef designer, his dragon face design language is awesome.
The interior is just ugly and pointless. Build your dreams, but not like this please.
Had an Atto 3 for about 12 months now and found it to be a great car especially around the city. My wife drives it the majority of the time as I have a dual cab and find that we drive the Atto most of the time on weekends with the occasional drive down the Bruce to Brisbane from the Fraser Coast and it's great on the highway and would make the distance easily but we usually charge along the way anyway. Yes it has the odd quirks and features (Sorry Doug...) but overall we are loving it.
BYD's pickup truck is a right hand drive, it's probably gonna be released in Australia and Thailand first. It could be a good upgrade for you.
BYD will do very well in Aus. About time we had affordable, value for money and bold design looking cars here. Well done BYD and bring more surprises
They would do well, but we both know what will happen is yanks will complain about competition and suddenly find some "nation security" issue with the cars and force our government in Australia to ban them as well. Our government will say yes sir anything you say sir.
Why they are not affordable in Europe?
Tariff and Geopolitics, BYD has to build EV factory in Hungary to avoid import tariff @@centralkingdom8141
@@MS-wz9jm… Well, China will just have to behave themselves for the foreseeable future …
@@copaloadofthis China will do what its always done and that is continue with its past 100 years of being a non-aggressive power unlike the US.
Why I think BYD looks much better than Kona, no matter outside and inside
I think so, too.😊
@@miki-wong836 and BYD Atto is probably the ugliest BYD car. 🙃🙃
Agree
Can not agree more.
cos BYD didn't pay for this video
How is that an upset? BYD is much larger than Hyundai in EVs and has much more capability. If the Hyundai came even close I would have been shocked.
Only an 'upset' for the mindset that many people seem to have, which is "Chinese cars are all rubbish"..
@joele4197 actually it is 😂
@@pestalozziii So your favourite music video is "Likey likey" by Twice? Korea is WAY behind China in EVs. It's not my fault you don't know this.
@@rebym Your delusions actually made me laugh. Believe that and live your whole life 😏
@@EmbraceMadnezZ The world's largest EV producer and second largest battery producer is miles ahead of Hyundai. That you don't know this, but think your comment matters, is a poor reflection on yourself. GO LEARN!
❤BYD Atto3 ruled, no doubt about it
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
Hi thanks for your video. I will absolutly pick Atto3 over the Kona.
Atto3 has better Quality and range in the Swedish winter climate .. I do love the voice commands..works grate and it feels safe with OTA updates.
And Atto has no rattel anyware.
Just go and research what’s happening in the ev space in China and you’ll see Korea and the latter are so far behind
Very true, it's actually quite insane
Far behind? Lol
@@kfx3907 indeed, go look at the autonomous features of even entry level cars it’s quite eye opening
@@kfx3907 you living under a meteor?
@@Maige2900You mean the poorly calibrated and intrusive autonomous systems that are more dangerous than Tesla autopilot? Did you get your 0.50 RMB for that comment?
The Kona is a great car at an awful price.
The Atto here in the UK comes with Continental eco contact tyres.
Good video 👍🏻
Atto is not that cheap in UK 😕
@@centralkingdom8141no but they are pitching well to motability customers where it offers zero initial payment to disabled customers. This is cheaper than MG ZS and not just the trophy either. For that it becomes a bargain option but only to disabled drivers. I’m very tempted because of it
It's an awful car for a great price.
@@sara.cbc92 What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
Tires*
Rattling in the Hyundai means the sun roof was badly installed during assembly. Rattling in the door is hard to isolate and to fix. Very annoying.
Hyundai Kona is also a Chinese car, its uses Batteries from CATL (The biggest Chinese battery maker in the world )
the electric motor is also made by Chinese company (i forgot the name). Only the name and the casing is Korean
Lol
For now, almost all electric vehicles are inseparable from China’s industrial chain.
Wow, electric cars are made up of only BATTERY and MOTOR! EVs with batteries from LG and Samsung are all Korean cars! Interesting😂
@@StarSystem-p3iit may sounds silly. But the battery and engine made up the majority of the cost of an EV
@@tchen8124 Exactly!
The Chinese are ruthless when it comes to price war 😂
在原料产地当然东西又可靠性价比又高。韩国产什么？世界上最贫瘠的土地
If that Korean car enters the Chinese market. Emmmmm……It will be the same as if it had not entered.
@@chjin1796 Kona不是合资车吗🤔
@@birdyashiro1226 合资但卖国外的吧，就这外观在国内就没人看得上，也不知道韩国人什么审美
不是的@@birdyashiro1226
Sorry, the front of the BYD is symmetrical and smart with headlights that look real. That Kona charge port ruins the otherwise okay look.
4 star vs 5 star (competition over, inexcusable Hyundai).
You can buy a really well packaged aftermarket space saver for $900 to suit Atto with jack etc included. You remove the lower floor and it fits straight in. The boots are then equal for that spend. $1k on a set of Continental 235/50 tyres and you are still $1k cheaper than the cheapest Kona.
Add a frunk ($10 Bunnings) basket.
You didn't mention voice activation on BYD. Does Kona have it even?
Yes, driver display is a win for 4☆Kona.
BYD will be my choice anytime
BYD already have dealerships in Caribbean and Europe
personally I like the kona's design, but if I need to buy, I'll buy BYD.
Totally agree!
@@JoeChan-c5rOf course you do, because you're paid 0.50 RMB per comment
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
ATTO2 (yuan up) will be launched in China soon, and the price should be around 22,000 Australian dollars. This is a small car with CTB chassis technology, which is the same technology as seal. It definitely feels good to drive
Yes，I am in China and I have seen it in 4s, It is very good
BYD The world's No. 1 brand The best electric vehicles
At present, BYD cannot reach the top spot in the world because there is also Tesla. The future is possible.
@@破名 Byd sells way more cars than tesla
11:11 "It does not feel like a $70,000 dollar car"
You know what else does not feel like a $70,000 car? The B L O O D Y H I L U X
😂😆
Unlike the Hyundais, the Hilux will last long. I think the price is justified to an extent.
@@aasamspb967 I have to disagree with you. The dmax will last long. The triton will last long. All three are, logically speaking, on the same level yet only one costs a fortune.
And that's excluding the new platform cars such as the Ranger and Amarok and the yet to be released new triton.
@@ramajyello well. Then it's the brand name. Isuzu is not a big brand like Toyota outside of Japan. Mitsubishi is generally not considered as a reliable brand like Toyota and Honda everywhere around the globe. They might be good now but the damage has already been done.
So unless people stop buying the expensive Hilux Toyota doesn't need to lower their prices. I mean come on if people are not buying it Toyota will lower their prices. So educate the people, I guess.
@@ramajyello it's the same here in India.
Indian companies are able to make well build cars with premium looking interior but Toyota is selling Fortuner with a high price. Fortuner is good looking on the outside. But the Indian companies beat the Toyotas in terms of features and design. But people buy the Toyotas with that hefty price. When people ask why owners reply it will last long (which is true). And when it's Toyotas hybrid a big car like that will only drink the fuel like a small car.
But if people are buying, Toyota has no reason to lower the price. Financially abled people (not talking about the rich, but the upper middle class) in India might buy a bad Toyota car with high price because of the brand name. Both Hyundai and BYD and any other company don't have that power all over the world.
The looks of BYD is much nicer than the Kona.
Totally agree.
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
Had the Atto for over a year. Love it to bits, wonderful drive and ride, simply outstanding value. Super easy to drive, love the entertainment system, opening roof and sun shade.
Access is very good particularly for those less able. I have to carry a wheelchair and it easily fits the back of the Atto.
Finally, lots of grunt and good range.
I rarely use DC chargers and around here they are mostly 50KW. My typical time on the DC charger is 20 mins.
Similar points to yours.
Also have carted home 2.4metre Ikea flat packs, which amazed the staff who thought it would never fit. And last week it was a washing machine which made it in the back with millimetres to spare. Already go my money back on carrying loads and saving on delivery fees!
@@remakeit2628 🤭a very creative evaluation angle, it actually has financial returns
Seen BYD everywhere during holiday in Thailand. Never knew it was that cool of a car. WOW.
The LFP chemistry of the BYD is much LESS energy dense than the the NMC chemistry of the Kona. This means that the battery is bigger and heavier than the equivalent capacity. However, it is much safer being less prone to thermal runaway. Wouldn't have a car without it.
He is talking about the entire battery pack, and you are talking about the battery cells. Because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery. Pack energy density is higher. LG is a soft pack battery, and the battery pack requires a high-strength battery pack casing.
Try buying cars in Ireland. Absolutely crazy taxation makes even small cars expensive.
@@yudogcome5901 chinese :(
@@MrGearoid65I suggest you take a look at the car taxes in Turkey. It’s the craziest in the world. We pay 80% + 20% for small cars and it goes up to 220% + 20%
Yes. You read it right.
@@yudogcome5901only chinese believe that 😂
Man I love your reviews, has me in in stitches every time
i want to buy a BYD car, but can not get it in USA
your politicians are looking after your national security.... feel blessed lol
and the zeekr 001, xpeng g6, byd u8 u9, ora cats, aions, hypers.... and dozen more you can't get... that just sad. @@fatdoi003
byd的商用车可以在美国售卖，民用车却不行🌝🌝自由文明的美国.....
To me BYD looks much better. I saw the Hyundai the other day on the street. I was shocked by the front, where the light line goes across the front and the front lights BELOW that line! And they were quite dark. Soooo weird! That the charging is in the front is really a stupid idea.
In my country (India), Kona isn’t available. But assuming that it comes at a similar price point as BYD Atto 3, I would never choose Kona over Atto. This is because a lot of Kia Seltos and Hyundai run on the road, and a couple of my friends and family members own them the interior of Kona is no different to that. Having too much hard plastics, constant rattling noise, dual display integrated in the same manner makes it feel less value as compared to Atto which has premium feel because of the rotating infotainment screen, soft touch material and sport seats with extra support.
So overall, Atto provides better feel to the owner
hyundai is the world 3rd largest car manufacturer now. they have repair services in many places. BYD probably doesn't have official repair services. Chinese people's don't invest money in customer services.
Recommended this channel to my friends. Yes, the BYD is really so much better than Hyundai, not to mention it costs less, really good value for money. My friend has driven BYD atto 3 for 2 years travelled 60kms, no ANY issues at all. yes, zero issues！
When the BYD comes to Canada, I will get one for sure.
美国不会允许，小土豆也不喜欢😢
I cannot wait for BYD to come to Canada
Korean manufacturers lost the advance of battery cost than Chinese ones.
The Kona uses almost 10+ year old NCM6, not de facto industry standard NCM8/9. The Kona is after all an entry-level EV. LFP is also for entry-level, low-range EVs due to its low-energy density and weight -- and outcompetes against NCM6 in price.
And the fact BYD manufactures their own batteries saved more.
In China the atto 3 in video costs less than A$ 30k.
Or 20k USD, 19k EUR, 16k GBP.
@@chrischen7092 : just to be sure, Chinese's battery competitors' key advantage is their raw material cost. The raw material cost for NCM8/9 already cheaper than LFP -- we would just have to wait a few years for NCM8/9 to be commodified .
Not just cost. The battery technology also.
@@CNSPACE2030 >> Not just cost. The battery technology also.
Mistake in the video @ around 8:20 you say the LiFe battery in the Atto 3 is more energy dense than the lithium ion battery (probably NMC) in the Kona. It's the other way around. You getting more Wh per kg with lithium ion chemisties as opposed to LiFePO4.
He is talking about the entire battery pack, and you are talking about the battery cells. Because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery. Pack energy density is higher. LG is a soft pack battery, and the battery pack requires a high-strength battery pack casing.
@@yudogcome5901 >> because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, > BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery.
@@yudogcome5901 Sorry - he specifically said LiFe is more energy dense which is just plain wrong. Both batteries are around the same size (64kWh) so even that argument makes zero sense. The Kona is lighter because the battery is more energy dense - more kWh per kg
@@yudogcome5901
LFP batteries are effective in lowering vehicle prices, but their physical energy density is inevitably low. China can't catch up with Korea in NCM battery technology at all. However, the current issue in the electric vehicle market is that the price is high compared to the insufficient infrastructure, so LFP appears attractive because the low-priced market is the trend. However, as time goes by, as the production cost of electric vehicles decreases and expensive brands become EVs, LFP will disappear from luxury brands.
BYD hybrid should be better.
BYD hybrid has beaten up Toyota's hybrid in Chinese market because BYD has much bigger batteries(longer battery range) and drives much smoother and quicker.
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
Kona looks cool at the front, and lousy at the back IMO. Those rear lights are frumpy - and ugly.
On the interior it's no contest, the BYD is much cooler.
The LFP battery on the BYD is handy, but the charging is slow if you charge publicly compared to others. The regen on the BYD leads to longer range in the city than the WLTP, but shorter on the highway where there is less braking.
byd有100kwh，120kwh，150kwh，好几种速率。充电时间其实差不多的，越高速率会带来发热，然后降速和更多的能源损耗。
The fact the charging is at the front of the Kona is a deal breaker right there for me.
+1
Also looks terrible.
To save your battery life,
Manufacturer recommended charging you battery between 20% to 80%.
but not with BYD's LFP batteries, you can easily to 10% to 90% (or 100%, just after 90%, charging getting slow)
All lithium ion batteries, including LFP, suffer degradation under high SOC. LFP however has to be charged to 100% because it has a flat discharge curve which makes it difficult for the BMS to estimate accurate SOC/range without recalibrating the BMS.
@@tooltalk LFPs are expected to have significantly higher cycle life, so when you talk about degradation I am assuming you mean significantly less degradation.
@@GDM22 LFP has significantly higher lifespan under stationary batteries (or ESS) workload. They don't last nearly as long in moving vehicles (or EV) workload, which is why LFP is mostly deployed in compact/small EVs. There are different aging mechanisms for different workload and a lot of rabid Tesla fanbois intentionally conflate the two to hype up Tesla's use of inferior batteries in SR models.
EDIT: spelling and missing words
@@tooltalk Where did you get that inforrmation from, reference it. Watched a Cleanerwatt video early 2024 and the LFP battery degradation using Tessie Global data shows that after 45,000 miles, the LFP models have the lowest degradation at 2%. The NCM 4680 batteries have 3x that amount. Nothing like large sample realworld data to cut through the b_llsh_t.
The Kona looks too much like the Xpeng G9. And like a knockoff version of the G9 for that matter. That's why I hate it. Can't believe the Koreans would steal a design like that.
Don't mention the new Hyundai Santa Fe is a completely rip off of Rover. And their Genesis looks like terrible imitator of Bentley. I seriously lost all my respect for Korean brands, they used to have unique and slick designs back in 2010s.
@@tedhansolo It's really surprising to see it from the Koreans.
중국차가 한국차를 배꼈다고 하면 이해를 하지만 그반대라고 하면 ㅋㅋㅋ
@@mgm5316 Just look at the Li Auto L Series and Xpeng. All these are cars that were released before the Kona. And itʼs very clear the Kona's designers were trying to ape their design.
自己去查发布时间@@mgm5316
What about V2L? In the USA the base trims of the Kona dont support V2L but the premium trim supposedly does. Does any trim of the BYD support V2L?
Yes all BYDs sold in Australia come with V2L
Neither are stunners , the byd is a little bit bland on the front end .The konas corner light clusters looks very old world and is too low ,so even a mi!d bump gonna shatter either corner , back or front. The kona from side veiw has awful looking arches , like they were stuck on as a after thought when the designers went for lunch .
havnt bothered to go further as in battery and interior.
Bus has a opening sunroof and a good size more responsive screen either in portrait or horizontal. Think the atto is less boring even with a few things which are weird , like guitar string type door pockets.
kona‘s outlook design is like ten years ago
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
Looks are very subjective. For me, I much prefer the loook of the BYD Atto 3 over the Hyundai Kona. The Hyundai looks very gimmicky and you're right, the charge port right on the front bumper is a terrible idea.
8:00 byds lfp battery claims puncture resistance without catching on fire. You can yt search the tests. Im not sure about the older li-ion tech of the kona.
Atto3 no doubt,By personal feeling,way better than all ICE cars under 100,000 dollars.
What BYD's admirers have in common is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you must not lie.
@@trinity1203 As feeling of.It sold a lot in China,Wt you mean about?
I kind of feel like BYD has paid some marketing team to fill the comments with random supporting comments lol.
@howlee4091LOL accuse those of what you do yourself. Straight out of Stalin's playbook. Typical communist
Big marketing team.
We can’t get the BYD or any of the other Chinese EVs like Nio or Onvo here in the States. Our EV selection is so far behind its gross. They do have used 2023 and 2024 Kona electric for around 30k US though. Do you see it as a worthy car closer to that price point? I’d love an EV (my ford Fusion energi plug in EV just got recalled so I’m in the market for a car with no time to research). Thanks.
The Kona has a look of the mk 1 Ford Focus from behind.
I think the BYD looks way better personally, also the turn signal on the Kona triggers me a bit, why TF is it so low to the ground? That throws me off any time I see a Kona while driving around....
Don't mislead people with strange comments.
There are significant differences between NCM batteries and LFP in terms of physical characteristics. LFP batteries should be 40% cheaper.
Do not buy an electric vehicle that does not use NCM batteries. After a few years, LFP battery cars lose their value.
Currently, the best performance and control for electric vehicles is the Hyundai EGMP Module.
Do not confuse car users with inaccurate information.
Why would LFP batteries lose their value after a few years. The next version of the Blade battery has 25% higher energy density and CATL have an LFP battery coming to market with a 15 year, 1.5 million km warranty with zero degradation after 500,000kms.
man, build your dream is kinda silly, BYD is just fine
Later this year they're dropping the slogan on the back of the cars and just going with BYD
@@nadnerb2kthat's great news.
y have built your dream after getting a 10.000 cars kkkkkkk
Absolutely. I don't know why they didnt just stick with biyadi
A lot of people don't know this but BYD doesn't actually stand for anything. They just made the Build Your Dreams up later. That's why it's so easy to get rid of. 😂
나는 한국 사람으로 호주인들에게 미안한 이야기를 한다. 코나는 과거 처음 설계 되고 제조 되었을 당시 기준으로는 좋은 차 였고, 지금도 좋은 차가 맞지만 현대가 수년 전 부터 주력으로 밀고 있는 E-GMP가 아닌 기존 코나 내연차를 전기차로 개조한 구형이다. 즉, 오늘 날의 현대 기술 중 구형 기술에 속한 것인데, 현대가 호주에서 저 가격을 받고 있는 것은 호주에 미안한 일이다.
현대의 전기차 기술은 E-GMP가 적용 되면서 IONIC 5와 EV6에서 충분히 그 가치를 보여주었다. 한국에서는 코나가 아이오닉5 보다 싼데, 호주에서는 아이오닉5를 얼마에 판매하는지 모르겠다. 한국에서는 ATTO3는 관심 대상 자체가 못되고, 씰은 눈여겨 보는 층이 일부 존재하며, 해외 완성차 기업 중 전기차는 주로 테슬라, 포르쉐 정도를 본다.
전기차의 종합적인 기술은 아직 한국이 중국 보다는 당연히 앞서 있지만, 가성비 측면에서 영상에 나온대로 코나가 ATTO3에 미치지 못해 보인다. 대신 EV6를 비교 대상으로 하였다면 가격 차이 이상의 품질 차이는 있다는 것을 보증한다.
소비자 입장에선 가성비가 우선 되는 사람들이 많은데, 이 가성비에서 중국차를 따라 잡을 수 있는 기존의 완성치 기업이 없기 때문에 높은 호응을 이해한다. 그러나 나라면 테슬라나 EV6를 선택하겠다. 그리고 BYD의 SEAL은 기대하는 사람들이 적지 않아서 ATTO3와는 관심의 양이나 질이 다르다.
在韩国，特斯拉都不是一个感兴趣的话题，韩国人保护主义太强，正如韩国车在中国和日本没人在意一样。
Testing the handling with different types of tires?
My opinion the BYD looks better
The Kia feels like there was epty space on a body pnel and the they stuck a light in there and did not bother to align it
I guess you meant to say Hyundai
@@duccik5509 indeed 😂
Strangely in the UK the basic trim level with bigger battery in both cars costs about the same price, about £37,000-38,000.
The BIGGEST plus about the Atto 3 is that the battery is the only difference - as far as I know. Everything else is the same. No bullshit where you need to upgrade for certain features.
One got a full 5 star crash rating the other only just by one point got a 4 star safety rating, of more of a 3 star than a 4 star.
At least the Hyundai's airbags are guaranteed to deploy in a serious accident.
@DukeLM I don't need to test it Wumao, I just need to observe actual incidents that have happened in China where BYD vehicles involved in serious accidents with other cars have had instances where airbags have failed to deploy.
@howlee4091 Sorry I don't speak XiNese
@howlee4091 Says the WuMao. Is the 0.50 RMB per 💩 post enough to get you by? 🤔
@howlee4091 How quick you are to reply. You're not at all a 50 cent party shill.
BYD is better of course.
LiFePo4 in fact has lower energy density than more "traditional" Li-Ion NMC. But they are superior in other areas sure.
Just drove a demo kona ev (50km on it and they're asking $73500, so we are not sure but with 5yr peace of mind im tempted after filling car up with premium fuel today)
So in short: the kona looks better, drives better and has better tech. But the atto is cheaper.
I test drove the byd and wanted to buy it, but my wife wanted to buy something else, so we bought a more expensive one; the Xpeng G6 seems it has some higher tech stuff that's better than atto3 like surround smart voice command; no need to say "hi" back passenger say open windown(his window) opens... and self park/drive... and wifi... and phone controls.... n 755km range.... 800V fast charging...
I love BYD
I think hybrids are still more practical in Australia with limited recharge infrastructure. A BYD hybrid would be attractive.
That is all dependent on how they are used, for most an Atto is a city car, and EVs are unbeatable as city cars especially if you have off street parking for charging. The complexity of a Hyrbid drive train for me is completely off putting.
Do not compare other EV with China.
Yeah the Hyundie is crap
There are more than 1.5 billion Chinese people around the world. If they say they like each other in comments, the comments become meaningless. Anyone can see that BYD has an old design and has not been verified.
The global sales disagree with you!
I think the old design is the key why it became a successful global model.
Don't look at others with colored glasses. You have to drive first. It's not too late to comment.
What do you mean by verified. Who needs to verify the design.
BYD looks better both externally and internally. Better quality and overall performance! Super value for money!
What do U guys recommend for tyres for the byd Atto 3 to replace the Batmans later down the track. Continental Ecos?
I am interesting too
So which one wins if comparing a new Atto 3 with a *second hand* top spec Hyundai Kona EV? I'm tossing up options for the second car, urban duties only, work commuting and runnings errands in the metro area only. Still got an ICE for road trips.
BYD Atto 3, far better vehicle and actually modern tech on a dedicated EV platform, but starts at $48k drive away.
Or get a top spec 2019 Hyundai Kona second hand with less than 40,000km for $38k. No remaining 5 year vehicle warranty, balance of 8 year battery warranty.
Or the real cheap ass option, MG ZS EV, very basic vehicle but only $35k drive away. For basic urban transport and no road trip plans, hard to beat that price.
I don't know why you are bother to adjust the temperature by swiping. The voice commands will do all the tricks.
dunno why i just dont like voice commands, i just dont like talking in general, yea i have a problem. brb going to a shrink
Here in Canada we have very expensive Tesla or ICE cars.
When it comes to battery, you're telling a lie.
Kona's battery(NCM) is way more durable than BYD's battery(LFP).
Even charge more than 80%, it doesn't effect on NCM battery's durability.
Ironically LFP battery needs to be charged 100% to calibrate. Because voltage gap in LFP battery is so small that it is hard to calculate the remaining battery.
And also NCM battery's C-Rate is way more higher than LFP considering usage in car.
LFP battery is originally made for ESS so that it guarantee the durability in 0.5 C-rate.
But when we drive, average C-rate is higher than 0.5 which affects negative influence to durability.
And C-rate also affects to charging speed. As we can see in your video, kona's charging speed is faster than BYD.
It means NCM battery can charge fast and safe.
At last, recently in the US, many teslas die because of the super low temperature. Mostly Those teslas are using LFP battery.
As a car reviewer, need to check the fact and study but you seems not...
correct!
NCM batteries are far more explosive. Your life is yours, anyway.
@@cosmoobserver3416 well... I think you don't have knowledge about C-Rate.
LFP is not suitable for HIGH C-RATE. And it means easy to fire and explode. In the official spec sheet from LFP manufactor(BYD, CATL), Stable C-Rate of LFP battery is 0.5C.
Compare to LFP, NCM battery's(latest SK Hynix 9+) stable C-rate is more than 5C to 6C which is 10 times higher than LFP battery.
Considering average driving C-rate is 2C, LFP has lower stable C-rate than it needs.
So, inevitably, it keeps using more than 0.5C and it can damage battery life cycle and cause the fire.
At last, almost electric car fire accidents(including hybrid) are using LFP battery.
Belief is free, but Science doesn't change.
Have to say I really disagree with you on looks. BYD is boring but that Kona…well, it’s just fkn ugly…
Yes, kona reminds me a lot of 90s scifi movie.
+1
Quite a few byd fire vids in China. Seems export ones are fine.
why not test voice control in atto3？
Having to look at that motor cycle screen, along with lack of button controls would drive me crazy. .Your report seemed to indicate a better driving experience in the Kona. BYD with its integrated headrest and lack of lumbar support sounds terrible for long trips. Kona is just too expensive . With the BYD , you get what you paid for. I've just read this morning the $$ prices have dropped significantly $ 44 plus on roads for the New Atto 3 . Also better tyres . Makes it a no brainer .
BYD is the obvious choice 😍
4 star NCAP rating from Hyundai 😠
that atto3 is around AUD 29000 in China.😂
Man,have you heard things called subsidies and taxes?
@@wizardy6267 The point he made is he is lots happier at the price.
China EV market is in bloody competition mode even Tesla has to cut price in China EV market which is good for the consumer for sure.
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@@jxmai7687 I am sure he would be, but BYDs relative to other brands are well priced in Australia, it is all relative, that is what matters, paying a lot more for another car because you can buy an Atto in China a lot cheaper is a rediculous argument.
After reviewing all the comments, the common thing among BYD admirers is that they are Chinese. :( The patriotism of the Chinese is great, but you shouldn't lie.
that rotating screen, don't u see more when navigate? like see more whats ahead in the navigating road? if you do, thats is very very useful...
errr，that rotating screen is designed for play tiktok ！！！
but do u see more navigation?@@_Forsaker
@@_ForsakerNo it isn’t. It’s designed precisely for what he said. A lot of people requested portrait mode for navigation, so they delivered.
@@StoicSwagger In China the BYD company said that.
Where I'm from the Seal is a 100k TTD more 😅
BYD is the bigger company and can undercut Hyundai.
Coming from your previous byd ATTO 3 review video and you mentioned it is a Medium SUV in that video but are stating it is a Small SUV in this video? Which is it please? 😭
It's Daddy Jacob!
Yes, but will Atto 3 rust ?
does byd use drugs？can atto3 kungfu？
Setting the Temp or many other functions can be by voice command, so no need to play with the screen...
If you hit anything hard enough to damage the charge port you are not driving home in either car, long wheel base means front tyre damage, and or radiator damage.
uh not really.. it's literally the first thing you'll hit.
@jimmyp1433 I remember Clarkson from Top Gear was testing the autonomous emergency braking on a Mazda. It literally hit the wall at least than 3mph and broke the radiator and rendered the car useless. All modern cars are extremely vulnerable at the front so it will make no difference where the charge port is. Bad location? Yes, but will have the same outcome, a completely un drivable car.
Really? I dont think that lot money for Hyundai Kona. It ranked number 3 for cheapest electric car.
BYD Qin sells for less than $10,000 in China.
So I am going to go against the grain because everyone seems to be in support of your review. We bought the Kona premium over the Atto 3. Our opinion is it is nicer inside and out, nicer to drive and the one pedal drive (which you conveniently didn’t mention) in the Kona is just awesome. Also Kona has HUD and BYD does not. There are a lot of things you left out. It has better warranty, cheaper to service and local dealers. Also Hyundai to us is more trusted than something that has recently come in to Aus. Yes I do agree the price point is about $4k too high. But I reckon that’s Hyundai Aus ripping Aussies off because all the govt incentives cap off at $68k. So they have just made it that to reap some dollars back. However we novated leased the vehicle and saving is great. Makes it the same price as the Kona hybrid and it is a much better car to drive.
BTW we have no rattles and the front charging port is not an issue. I don’t know why people are hung up on it. Just trying to knock the Kona down to meet your agenda. Yes it is not overall appealing being at the front, but it is very handy being at there front too.
That’s my opinion and I’m sure people will want to disagree. Also I test drived the Toyota BZ4X and I actually think the Kona is nicer than it.
Lithium-Ion has more power density than LifeP04 (LFP or Lithium Iron Phosphate).
He is talking about the entire battery pack, and you are talking about the battery cells. Because LiFe has better high-temperature safety and BYD’s innovative structure, BYD’s LiFe battery pack of the same size is actually better than Hyundai’s LG lithium-ion battery. Pack energy density is higher. LG is a soft pack battery, and the battery pack requires a high-strength battery pack casing.
BYD hands down
In USA and Canada, Hyundai is dealing with the PR nightmare of the $60k battery replacement cost. Is that happening in Australia?
As for the charging port in front…..after driving on the highway in the summer…. I don’t want to touch that cover…..
Otto only costs about $11000 in China now because of the reduced cost of manufacturing batteries.
no, its still like $20k
$11000 is BYD Qin
If the Kona is just slightly better handling, then the Atto 3 with the wider wheels and a name brand tires then Atto 3 is the winner.
Someone need to make a mode for the bage. Changing it to RYD (Rage Your Dream). Initial D fans would get it :P