I always knew that Duke should have a Gold Deagle, the fact they he had a Goldish 1911 always seemed abit weird to me, then he also had what appears to be the same style Deagle in Manhattan Project felt like it connected the dots perfectly. Holding a .50 Cal Deagle with one hand and the fucking sweet stylish reload is just pure badass.
If only the view model had been adjusted for 16x9, and wasn't cut off.. at least I'm pretty damn sure that's exactly what that is, just like the original Half-Life nowadays.. I posted more detail above just for anybody curious or gifted with skills to follow a view model rant LOL.. but it's it's actually super common when games are converted from 4x3 to 16x9, a lot of people catch the fov but they don't catch the view model part, and a lot of games usually scale with but.. it's more of a modern thing, unless you know your ultra modern where you scale down for The wider the screen LOL but that's a whole almost ideological issue at that point.. this is more just technical... Which especially a game in development is going to have that probably loose so they can move it around a lot.. if you can't find any viewmodel commands in the console which again that would be surprising given it's a Dev build LOL, if you can't.. try switching it to 4x3 and if suddenly you see twice the gun and the arms and you know it all suddenly makes kind of sense.. that would be why LOL.. it's kind of aggravating how many people have videos of the original half-life in 16 by 9 where those gorgeous view model and weapon animations are completely cut in half and people just think that's how it's supposed to be.. Unlike Half-Life 2 the original half-life was pretty much one of the closest games to actually looking like you were holding the weapon that mechanically made no sense LOL.. but it looked like you were holding it, pretty much better than most modern games nowadays.. kind of sad how they did the sequel in that regard where didn't even comprehend how you were holding it.. like actually just not even holding it badly just how was this being held LOL... We would see a lot of that trash until the first iterations of first person awareness would start rolling out because it was the third person model so the view model was just kind of a camera placement situation, then when they did the separation between the model and the arms to avoid the thief third person issues.. you saw it come right back sadly, especially with the shrinking of the fov as game developers got utterly ridiculous in saving the most unimportant tiny bits of performance LOL completely ignoring the larger picture usually, literally LOL... Why I have such respect for machine games, they took that original riddick thief style third person model, and got it better and better to the point where Wolfenstein 2 uses a full third person awareness first person model and plays like the proper movement shooter immersive Sim hybrid that it is.. they ditched it for the first reboot, but the fact that they were able to bring it back and everybody said it controlled amazingly by comparison to the complaints with Reddick and the darkness and syndicate and whatnot, that's actually kind of a hell of an accomplishment for something they've been trying to work on for so long.. but anyhow.. Hopefully the trends change from games like outer worlds and OverWatch, and are more like New Colossus and the upcoming system shock remake and like the original half-life :-) I would love to see what this one looks like if that is indeed what the issue is, with the proper ratio given how much effort they put into everything else.. that'd be kind of kind of dead be kind of lame if this was like what they were happy with LOL but I highly doubt it given that 16x9 was, I mean shit 16x10 was a completely unobtainium professional grade color correction monitor back then for film.. so like I said check the view model in the console if you get your hands on it.
@@jakedill1304 ok, I understood nothing from what you said, I know that you're saying something about game's viewmodels and aspect ratio, but I have no idea on what you're actually trying to convey, could you be more concise?
eh, I prefer DNF 2011 Shrinker and Freezethrower cuz they look more like ones from DN3D but others such as Railgun and Shotgun look better in this version indeed
I always hated the tripple barrel design of the ripper. I was looking forward to Duke having a decent assault rifle, but all they did was add a 30 round clip reloading mechanic to an already flawed design.
@@Gonken88 Well Mister "I-am-not impressed-this-is-from-2001-because-I-want-to-be-different-than-others-in-the-comment section", can you do better graphic yourself in 2001?
@@hanchiman What the fuck do I have to do with this 😂? That's like a comeback from a 10 y/o for fuck's sake. Check out MGS2 it's from 2001 also. Soldier of fortune 2 from 2002 and then Farcry 2003. This game was supposed to be released in 1999 and it used the first Unreal engine which was heavily outdated.
@@Gonken88 well opinions are like assholes. Everyone got one. And you sir, got one as well. There are 100 of comments you can choose from but you choose mine. Why would you care what I wrote? It my opinion anyway and if you find this game graphic unimpressive in 2001. Good for you then, do you need an achievement point for telling me that? Just enjoy the video as I am enjoying it.
Yeah it looks great. A RadTools bink video basically of a cool animation done in whatever software existed back then, capable of doing this. Like Maxon Cinema, Adobe After Effects, etc.
The weapons have a lot of punch and the shooting feels pretty solid overall. I can't imagine what will be come up with in the coming years within the Unreal/Duke community.
One thing to notice is how they have taken pictures of the weapons, in a specular looking way. Shiny. Back then there was no specular or bump mapping. Clever 3D Realms!
I love flamethrowers that let me actually see the actual fire in the game that I'm shooting. This is kind of a hard thing to write in a sentence but when games make it show a "graphically better" effect that doesn't match the actual hitboxes I can always tell.
I saw someone do an in depth look at this DNF build and it is actually very impresive what the devs managed to achieve. Of course that it isn't finished, but some details for example are really good, like the realistic shattering of glass on certain levels. Obviously the glass is not super detailed or anything, but it reacts almost the same way real life glass does when shot/ kicked. There were also a few mechanics which didn't make the cut in the end, but it shows that more love and detail has been put in the game than what we got as the end product. One more thing, apparenly there is a 2002 build of DNF as well, which is the more complete version of this one (90% complete to be exact). So there is hope that someone finds it and let the modders finish the 10%.
The different ammo types are cool. Makes duke nukem 2011 look like horseshit. I love the m16 so much, pure american joy and power in a non tactical package.
@@olzhas1one755 If it wasn't for Randy, Duke Nukem Forever never would have seen the light of day... This version was never going to be finished. Blame Broussard for screwing this version up.
Ever since I saw the trailer on Angry Joe's review all those years ago I really wanted to see this build for so long, Seeing every single nook and cranny in the old trailer to imagine what could have been, the mock ups in Duke 3D mods were fin but it wasn't the same as the trailers. The 2020s have been such a massive treasure trove of leaks, comparing the final games to what was scrapped. Sure I feel bad for the companies that were breached but damn, this is like a dream that I didn't think it would be found playable after all these years. This is a lot more satisfying than most modern games that are released unfinished, buggy or massively disappointing.
Deus ex did the same thing in 2000. Tomb raider 4 had different ammo types for crossbow and shotgun in what, 1999? Resident evil even let you craft different ammo types. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about 🙂
also system shock 2 from 1999 hase also diffren types of ammo. anti person, normal and ap round for pistole and smg. and 5 diffrent grenedes. ( standard, burns, landmine, emp, disrupter for the greneade launcher) and even the first Systemshock have for some guns 2 diffren ammotypes...
The models still look pretty solid. The best thing is the sound, that punchy and strong sound really helps to sell that you're a one man army. To think we wouldn't start to get this type of sound for weapons until Wolfenstein The New Order, and see it further refined with Doom 2016 and Eternal.
crazy how they finally decide to release an early version of a game in 2022. it's disrespectful for the ones who awaited that instead of the awful DN:F. they shouldn't change it. because either most of them died, whilen other are too busy with their jobs
If you really think about it. Someone decided at one point in DNF's long development cycle A) Let's get rid of most of these new weapons and B) LETS ONLY ALLOW DUKE TO CARRY 2 WEAPONS (I know you can do 4 with an update). I know it was probably done because of consoles but this 2001 build had consoles in mind as well. If you load up the !character_Zoo map (dont know the exact name but its roughly that) you can listen to audio clips. And one of the audio clips talks about an X button and a Circle button. Even around 2006 or so they still had a drop down menu for the weapons. I played DNF 2011 the other day and it was one of the things that drove me crazy about it. That and the pipebomb was bound to like 3 or 4 or some number key.
agree that a game like Duke Nukem carrying only 2/4 weapons at once is madness. But as far as i remember at first they claimed that DNF had to be a PC exclusive.
Lead game designer was clearly a perfectionist. The game he wanted would have required far more man power in order to still finish on time and be a relevant and innovative product.The best features were the shrapnel and particle fx. Something most games do not do right.
I always dreaming of the day when a "Duke Nukem Forever Collection" would pop up on a store page on one day. I would be shocked. Playing every DNF-Version finished and as Bonus every build. It's just a dream.
The Braingun was actually this version of the Shrinker. I dunno how it was relevant though. I swear I thought that braingunwas had a piece of an Octobrain's brain and used it as weapon, since the projectile looks the same, but just dunno how it's suppose to be the shrinker.
Not just that. Bioshock style mini-puzzles, before Bioshock fucking came out, with Duke's actual hand. Pissing on command before Postal 2. The Thing and Parasite references far before Resident Evil 4. Duke could of been the first character modeled in 3D to have a kicking foot animation for actual proper interactions, kicking through glass, doors, enemies. Like you said, so much potential just thrown away. Such an injustice.
You forgot a fair few things (more flamethrower anims such as draw animation and explosion feature on gas type when gas is fired on, railgun reload, radiation on tac nukes, gunshots on riot shield, shrinkray altfire feature, secret alternate and unused shrinkray) Great video otherwise! I'm really happy to see this on your channel.
Yes the gas being useful. One cool weapon mechanic later seen in Unreal 2: The Awakening. Like so many others stuff. DNF2001 was so ahead of it's time.
@@PCGamingVideos Indeed, DNF2001 was quite ahead of its time while also still maintaining a fast-pace with its gameplay. It's lovely. Here's hoping that fabled 80-90% complete 2002 build leaks some day.
Waiting for perfection is the enemy of good (game). Lesson here as clear as day for projects. They should have not redone it over and over again in the latest engine.
this game would have definitely been impressive for 2001, i was expecting it since it was announced and i was so hyped for it, but ffs Broussard had to keep piling up on it and getting it delayed into oblivion
Did you make sure to account for the 4x3 conversion for the view model.. a lot of games, especially unreal engine if they let you change the fov to match the aspect ratio, the same courtesy usually isn't extended to the view model.. this is how a lot of videos in the modern age end up having half of half-life's view model cut off... Whereas with 4x3 you can see the full animations in the hands etc*. At this point I just assume if the view model looks strange from an older title before the widescreen aspect ratio became common, it's got its view model cut off either by.. features I guess.. like modern unreal titles try to default too.. were you not actually getting a wider aspect ratio, rather a tinier one because... Tim...? Or it's just the view model itself that's been cut off, not having been translated with the fov.. which really wouldn't surprise me with this thing being an engine that you have to compile and whatnot.. that would be a very much Dev console thing and it usually is anyways, and it would definitely be something they would be adjusting anyways on account of the interactions and whatnot. But yeah first time I saw this build I was just immediately it was like oh yeah that that view model has been cut in half.. I mean it could just suck LOL, but more than likely it's been cut in half cuz that's that's pretty much what that looks like.. I don't know what the console commands are for this but I do know they're pretty essential from the sound of it, check it out and see if suddenly either it looks like he's actually holding the gun in 4x3 or if changing the view model fov to something higher proportionate to the fov of the 16x9 aspect ratio compared to 90 which I think is like 105 or 110 usually, it's somewhere between 100 and 110 and everybody has a different number.. valve used to say 105, now valve has changed it to 100, from 90.. they used to be the authority on this LOL.. which who knows with valve.. A lot of things in unreal are almost always locked down so that wouldn't surprise me either but considering that this is a build I would assume nothing is locked down, but probably defaults to trash, that's just how it usually is actually even with the modern unreal engine.. but back then it was pretty bad cuz they were developing it and had almost no documentation at the time for developers it was complicated situation for a lot of the people that switched to it, a pretty common problem even today but a huge problem back then for a lot of developers.. Regardless though, it's a sad sad thing that I see a lot of games that were designed in 4x3 with the 90 fov... It's not the f o v I think that really hurts the modern impression, but the view model cut off more than anything.. and just like first looks at this are like I said that that thing looks cut in half, now most people won't give a shit and don't give a shit about the view model it seems at all, something I never really understood.. but in a weapon showcase I figured you might so, just throwing that one out there if you were wondering why they kind of trash or just strange or given flashbacks from GoldenEye 64.. *( which were really cool actually I'm really sad to see people don't even notice, or don't know what to do about it etc.. I think the original Half-Life had some of the best view model placement of its era and God almost a universe better than the weird thing that they did with the second one.. and then doubled down on a few years later making it worse LOL... Ironically they also pioneered widescreen aspect ratios and this was a feature seeing more on the sides, seeing more of the view model etc.. this was before they locked it down in the engine to the 4x3 ratio.. and then the view model with it for some reason.. which I really never got, but then they undid a lot of that just recently I guess raising the cap to 100... Still, I probably would just assume they were weak sauce like a lot of modern day view models LOL.. but half-life's are burned into my brain, especially given the contrast between the first one and the second one going from damn near perfect to how the fuck is this guy holding these things, is that why he wears such thick glasses maybe so he doesn't get his eye popped out LOL.. but yeah, it's too bad Half-Life source was a disaster because that was one of the features, proper widescreen aspect ratio and the view model was all set up and everything for you.. )
@@devilbringer1102 I know... But i think Frederick Schreiber doesnt want to have a big problem with Gearbox if he leaks that build. Why just share that 2002 build to an 4Chan Annonymus user and he leak it?
@@devilbringer1102 Yeah. Every developer can do that like the one who shares the South Park cancelled Game Boy Color game ROM to an annonymus and he leaked... That's not a big problem if an annonymus do that
I miss this era in games where the technology was really starting to come around and higher poly models with photo-scanned textures were the new thing.
There’s also another secret “Weapon” sorta on the last level secret stage there is a turrent that you can use in the building north west from spawn it has a sequence of enemies there’s also the secret flying enemies just below that in the sewers
The Final version had some pretty good stuff, honestly. However. This is preferable to DN 3D rehashed selection with modern Cod weapon and ammo capacity. Not to mention ammo variants, that's a plus.
Wanna know the funny thing? I don't think the beta pistol was that much more powerful than the final product. It just feels more powerful because it sounds punchier.
God, I miss when FPS games used to have gunshots that sounded like cannons and not staplers.
Desert Eagle sound looks similar like from Soldier of Fortune 1 ;)
This is why i love black (ps2) so much despite having inaccurate gun model.
SHG : wuts a gunshot?
Do you even know what a stapler sounds like?
@@BradynNewcomer You're right, triple A videogame weapons sound like BB guns, which is even worse than staplers.
Duke's so badass he doesn't even need a real silencer for his pistol. He just need to look at the pistol.
“You better pipe down or I’m gonna make 50 cal look like a bee sting”
@@manformerlypigbukkit that's actually a pretty good one-liner. Good job
I always knew that Duke should have a Gold Deagle, the fact they he had a Goldish 1911 always seemed abit weird to me, then he also had what appears to be the same style Deagle in Manhattan Project felt like it connected the dots perfectly.
Holding a .50 Cal Deagle with one hand and the fucking sweet stylish reload is just pure badass.
If only the view model had been adjusted for 16x9, and wasn't cut off.. at least I'm pretty damn sure that's exactly what that is, just like the original Half-Life nowadays.. I posted more detail above just for anybody curious or gifted with skills to follow a view model rant LOL.. but it's it's actually super common when games are converted from 4x3 to 16x9, a lot of people catch the fov but they don't catch the view model part, and a lot of games usually scale with but.. it's more of a modern thing, unless you know your ultra modern where you scale down for The wider the screen LOL but that's a whole almost ideological issue at that point.. this is more just technical... Which especially a game in development is going to have that probably loose so they can move it around a lot.. if you can't find any viewmodel commands in the console which again that would be surprising given it's a Dev build LOL, if you can't.. try switching it to 4x3 and if suddenly you see twice the gun and the arms and you know it all suddenly makes kind of sense.. that would be why LOL.. it's kind of aggravating how many people have videos of the original half-life in 16 by 9 where those gorgeous view model and weapon animations are completely cut in half and people just think that's how it's supposed to be..
Unlike Half-Life 2 the original half-life was pretty much one of the closest games to actually looking like you were holding the weapon that mechanically made no sense LOL.. but it looked like you were holding it, pretty much better than most modern games nowadays.. kind of sad how they did the sequel in that regard where didn't even comprehend how you were holding it.. like actually just not even holding it badly just how was this being held LOL...
We would see a lot of that trash until the first iterations of first person awareness would start rolling out because it was the third person model so the view model was just kind of a camera placement situation, then when they did the separation between the model and the arms to avoid the thief third person issues.. you saw it come right back sadly, especially with the shrinking of the fov as game developers got utterly ridiculous in saving the most unimportant tiny bits of performance LOL completely ignoring the larger picture usually, literally LOL... Why I have such respect for machine games, they took that original riddick thief style third person model, and got it better and better to the point where Wolfenstein 2 uses a full third person awareness first person model and plays like the proper movement shooter immersive Sim hybrid that it is.. they ditched it for the first reboot, but the fact that they were able to bring it back and everybody said it controlled amazingly by comparison to the complaints with Reddick and the darkness and syndicate and whatnot, that's actually kind of a hell of an accomplishment for something they've been trying to work on for so long.. but anyhow..
Hopefully the trends change from games like outer worlds and OverWatch, and are more like New Colossus and the upcoming system shock remake and like the original half-life :-) I would love to see what this one looks like if that is indeed what the issue is, with the proper ratio given how much effort they put into everything else.. that'd be kind of kind of dead be kind of lame if this was like what they were happy with LOL but I highly doubt it given that 16x9 was, I mean shit 16x10 was a completely unobtainium professional grade color correction monitor back then for film.. so like I said check the view model in the console if you get your hands on it.
he had a golden deagle in the psx third person games
@@jakedill1304 ok, I understood nothing from what you said, I know that you're saying something about game's viewmodels and aspect ratio, but I have no idea on what you're actually trying to convey, could you be more concise?
@@pathos2853 also the Manhattan Project game as his starting gun
Both gold deagle and 1911 were cool for me
Im suprised that they managed to make a more functional and better game in alpha in 2001, rather than 2011, where dnf was released.
well i wouldn't go that far. it's just fun to say but the 2011 version was clearly DONE atleast. this one isn't a game
@@007kingifrit
I can see that.
The joke is that dnf2011 is soulless and kind of shit, while 2001 dnf is also kind of shit, it has more soul
Wrong
@@a.k8185 Stupid comment
You guys need to relax a bit, yes DNF sucked. But it was finished and playable, this build is barely functional.
These weapons look far better than the final game.
except the m16 which is cut from the final game
eh, I prefer DNF 2011 Shrinker and Freezethrower cuz they look more like ones from DN3D
but others such as Railgun and Shotgun look better in this version indeed
I always hated the tripple barrel design of the ripper. I was looking forward to Duke having a decent assault rifle, but all they did was add a 30 round clip reloading mechanic to an already flawed design.
Nah, aside M16 and the railgun most of those looks worse compared to DNF2011, the freezer looks like a water pistol.
Except for the jack off freezer.
The particle effects on the explosions are *really* nice.
The sling for Dukes shotgun is pretty impressive for 2001 technology to be honest
It's just a strip of polygons being animated. It isn't using physics or anything.
Siiiigh all these "impressive for 2001" experts emerging in the comment sections of these vids.
@@Gonken88 Well Mister "I-am-not impressed-this-is-from-2001-because-I-want-to-be-different-than-others-in-the-comment section", can you do better graphic yourself in 2001?
@@hanchiman What the fuck do I have to do with this 😂? That's like a comeback from a 10 y/o for fuck's sake. Check out MGS2 it's from 2001 also. Soldier of fortune 2 from 2002 and then Farcry 2003. This game was supposed to be released in 1999 and it used the first Unreal engine which was heavily outdated.
@@Gonken88 well opinions are like assholes. Everyone got one. And you sir, got one as well. There are 100 of comments you can choose from but you choose mine. Why would you care what I wrote? It my opinion anyway and if you find this game graphic unimpressive in 2001. Good for you then, do you need an achievement point for telling me that? Just enjoy the video as I am enjoying it.
3:33 look that little screen... Amazing for a 2001 game!
Yeah it looks great. A RadTools bink video basically of a cool animation done in whatever software existed back then, capable of doing this. Like Maxon Cinema, Adobe After Effects, etc.
Halo: hold my assault rifle....
@@Gonken88 But its very impressive that little screen...
@@ad7799 No, it was neither impressive nor amazing in 2001. 1999 perhaps.
@@Gonken88 but is called 2001 build...
The weapons have a lot of punch and the shooting feels pretty solid overall. I can't imagine what will be come up with in the coming years within the Unreal/Duke community.
I love that the trip mine’s screen is animated when duke is tapping on it
One thing to notice is how they have taken pictures of the weapons, in a specular looking way. Shiny.
Back then there was no specular or bump mapping. Clever 3D Realms!
I love flamethrowers that let me actually see the actual fire in the game that I'm shooting. This is kind of a hard thing to write in a sentence but when games make it show a "graphically better" effect that doesn't match the actual hitboxes I can always tell.
I saw someone do an in depth look at this DNF build and it is actually very impresive what the devs managed to achieve. Of course that it isn't finished, but some details for example are really good, like the realistic shattering of glass on certain levels. Obviously the glass is not super detailed or anything, but it reacts almost the same way real life glass does when shot/ kicked. There were also a few mechanics which didn't make the cut in the end, but it shows that more love and detail has been put in the game than what we got as the end product.
One more thing, apparenly there is a 2002 build of DNF as well, which is the more complete version of this one (90% complete to be exact). So there is hope that someone finds it and let the modders finish the 10%.
3:20 Holy shit.
Also the Fire wall on the flame thrower has to be a homage to Rise of the triad which had a similar weapon doing the same thing.
The different ammo types are cool.
Makes duke nukem 2011 look like horseshit.
I love the m16 so much, pure american joy and power in a non tactical package.
Say thanks to Randy for not letting all this get polished and finished
@@olzhas1one755
I can sense his grease from the baltic states
@@olzhas1one755 blame george broussard as well
@@olzhas1one755 If it wasn't for Randy, Duke Nukem Forever never would have seen the light of day... This version was never going to be finished. Blame Broussard for screwing this version up.
@@kiki88561 Rather not have that 2011 abomination which was also unfinished.
Always bet on Duke!
Ever since I saw the trailer on Angry Joe's review all those years ago I really wanted to see this build for so long, Seeing every single nook and cranny in the old trailer to imagine what could have been, the mock ups in Duke 3D mods were fin but it wasn't the same as the trailers. The 2020s have been such a massive treasure trove of leaks, comparing the final games to what was scrapped. Sure I feel bad for the companies that were breached but damn, this is like a dream that I didn't think it would be found playable after all these years. This is a lot more satisfying than most modern games that are released unfinished, buggy or massively disappointing.
Agreed.
Gearbox should finish it, it would sell like crazy as a throwback shooter, specially with all of this boomer shooter trend.
I would actually want to see Joe reacting to this build.
@@trobriandstorm Gearbox doesn't own the IP anymore, thankfully.
@@trobriandstorm Not Gearbox pls
LOVE that the chainsaw is literally Ash’s arm-mounted one from Evil Dead 2/Army of Darkness. 😂
A game from 2001 where most weapons have different ammo types? It's really ahead of its time
Deus ex did the same thing in 2000. Tomb raider 4 had different ammo types for crossbow and shotgun in what, 1999? Resident evil even let you craft different ammo types. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about 🙂
also system shock 2 from 1999 hase also diffren types of ammo. anti person, normal and ap round for pistole and smg. and 5 diffrent grenedes. ( standard, burns, landmine, emp, disrupter for the greneade launcher)
and even the first Systemshock have for some guns 2 diffren ammotypes...
Gunman Chronicles also did ammo types.
pretty good for 2001 the animations kick ass
God the Flamethrower fire wall is just great. Love that shit.
Отличный арсенал.😎Как я понял разработчики придумали фишку с разными патронами и режимами оружия.Эффекты и анимация у пушек что надо.🎉
Только в финальном версии чо попали переделали и Вырезали все что могли
@@DXXMGUY2024 Это да, но мне все таки по душе DNF 2011
The models still look pretty solid. The best thing is the sound, that punchy and strong sound really helps to sell that you're a one man army. To think we wouldn't start to get this type of sound for weapons until Wolfenstein The New Order, and see it further refined with Doom 2016 and Eternal.
Imagine the world if they release duke nukem forever in 2001
Modders: some people forget and leave games with potential. But not us. _Not us._
Are we not gonna talk about how fucking perfect the sound design is on the AR?
At least better than "the other" DN:F
@@giannilyanicks1718 wtf are you talking about? this is a leak
crazy how they finally decide to release an early version of a game in 2022. it's disrespectful for the ones who awaited that instead of the awful DN:F. they shouldn't change it. because either most of them died, whilen other are too busy with their jobs
@@giannilyanicks1718 this is a leak lmfao
@@giannilyanicks1718
This was a leaked version
If you really think about it. Someone decided at one point in DNF's long development cycle A) Let's get rid of most of these new weapons and B) LETS ONLY ALLOW DUKE TO CARRY 2 WEAPONS (I know you can do 4 with an update). I know it was probably done because of consoles but this 2001 build had consoles in mind as well. If you load up the !character_Zoo map (dont know the exact name but its roughly that) you can listen to audio clips. And one of the audio clips talks about an X button and a Circle button. Even around 2006 or so they still had a drop down menu for the weapons. I played DNF 2011 the other day and it was one of the things that drove me crazy about it. That and the pipebomb was bound to like 3 or 4 or some number key.
agree that a game like Duke Nukem carrying only 2/4 weapons at once is madness. But as far as i remember at first they claimed that DNF had to be a PC exclusive.
@@Devilot91 Maybe in 1998 1999 I wouldn't be surprised. But if you dig far enough into the 2001 build you will see what I am talking about.
The idea that anyone would scrap all this and start over is just mind boggling
The shockwave explosion effects just look awesome.
Lead game designer was clearly a perfectionist. The game he wanted would have required far more man power in order to still finish on time and be a relevant and innovative product.The best features were the shrapnel and particle fx. Something most games do not do right.
Oh man this game could have been great had Brossard just finished it on Unreal Engine 1 tech.
I really like how the shotgun sling is animated.
Man, what could've been. Gonna have to fire up 3D again.
I love the snowball that pops up with the alt fire of the freeze cannon
Huh. guess Duke finally did Nukem.
I'll be here all week, folks.
I always dreaming of the day when a "Duke Nukem Forever Collection" would pop up on a store page on one day. I would be shocked. Playing every DNF-Version finished and as Bonus every build. It's just a dream.
Braingun looks amazing , this Game got a few good ideas , that a pity DNF exist
The Braingun was actually this version of the Shrinker.
I dunno how it was relevant though.
I swear I thought that braingunwas had a piece of an Octobrain's brain and used it as weapon, since the projectile looks the same, but just dunno how it's suppose to be the shrinker.
@@Mecks089 Its most likely supposed to be the brains of Protector Drones they fire Shrink Orbs as their attacks
@@fenrirsrage4609 Yeah, I saw Civvie's video too lol.
there was multiple ammo types too? dear god so much potential went to waste because of so many engine changes, DAMMIT
Da.
The company working on this got KILLED by losing resources.
Not just that.
Bioshock style mini-puzzles, before Bioshock fucking came out, with Duke's actual hand.
Pissing on command before Postal 2.
The Thing and Parasite references far before Resident Evil 4.
Duke could of been the first character modeled in 3D to have a kicking foot animation for actual proper interactions, kicking through glass, doors, enemies.
Like you said, so much potential just thrown away.
Such an injustice.
@@Mecks089 makes you wonder if the people who were laid off mid production went on to work on those franchises using the experience they had
@Mecks089 i think i remember 3D Realms added full legs model too, (as FEAR), but had problems with animations, so it was scrapped.
Wrong
fr fr that is why i enjoy doom 1993 and doom 2016 the guns feel P O W E R F U L like bro them guns at valorant feel like glorified bb guns
Fun fact the tripmine in 3:27, it's also a very common weapon that you could seen in Half-Life and it's expansions.
when it detonates it have same DN3D trapmine sound effect
"Damn those alien bastards will pay for busting up my ride. "
Lol I like how Duke throws the mag in the air then loads it with the Deagle lol
Oh man those sounds are compressed but fucking crunchy.
the rocket launcher cocking makes it a million times cooler
At least you can carry more than two weapons at a time.
You forgot a fair few things (more flamethrower anims such as draw animation and explosion feature on gas type when gas is fired on, railgun reload, radiation on tac nukes, gunshots on riot shield, shrinkray altfire feature, secret alternate and unused shrinkray)
Great video otherwise! I'm really happy to see this on your channel.
Yes the gas being useful. One cool weapon mechanic later seen in Unreal 2: The Awakening. Like so many others stuff. DNF2001 was so ahead of it's time.
@@PCGamingVideos Indeed, DNF2001 was quite ahead of its time while also still maintaining a fast-pace with its gameplay. It's lovely. Here's hoping that fabled 80-90% complete 2002 build leaks some day.
@Eduardo Pigatto yes i think Frederik Schreiber has that build.
@@PCGamingVideos
Frederik schreiber?
wow they even included ammo types?!
Waiting for perfection is the enemy of good (game). Lesson here as clear as day for projects. They should have not redone it over and over again in the latest engine.
Imho much better guns than the ones we got in DNF from 2011.
Desert Eagle’s Hollow Type has the sound of a Halo shotgun.
Sounds fun for a deathmatch game, especially the pipe bombs :)
giving the duke a nuke seemed so obvious, so it is sad that being able to use that in the DNF we got was not a thing.
Also, you didnt show the draw anim for flamethrower. This anim is really cool
I love how the shrinker "magazine" is just a brain. (...or I'm assuming that is a brain, if so, what kind.)
The freeze thrower was kinda bad but the rest are 10/10 for me
this game would have definitely been impressive for 2001, i was expecting it since it was announced and i was so hyped for it, but ffs Broussard had to keep piling up on it and getting it delayed into oblivion
Then Randy decided to just say “Fuck it” and release a horrible version instead
I'm very concerned at the fact that duke is carrying brains around
The .50 Desert Eagle making 'pew pew' sounds just because the ammo was changed. 😂
You forgot to reload railgun (aka sniper rifle)
Did you make sure to account for the 4x3 conversion for the view model.. a lot of games, especially unreal engine if they let you change the fov to match the aspect ratio, the same courtesy usually isn't extended to the view model.. this is how a lot of videos in the modern age end up having half of half-life's view model cut off... Whereas with 4x3 you can see the full animations in the hands etc*. At this point I just assume if the view model looks strange from an older title before the widescreen aspect ratio became common, it's got its view model cut off either by.. features I guess.. like modern unreal titles try to default too.. were you not actually getting a wider aspect ratio, rather a tinier one because... Tim...? Or it's just the view model itself that's been cut off, not having been translated with the fov.. which really wouldn't surprise me with this thing being an engine that you have to compile and whatnot.. that would be a very much Dev console thing and it usually is anyways, and it would definitely be something they would be adjusting anyways on account of the interactions and whatnot.
But yeah first time I saw this build I was just immediately it was like oh yeah that that view model has been cut in half.. I mean it could just suck LOL, but more than likely it's been cut in half cuz that's that's pretty much what that looks like..
I don't know what the console commands are for this but I do know they're pretty essential from the sound of it, check it out and see if suddenly either it looks like he's actually holding the gun in 4x3 or if changing the view model fov to something higher proportionate to the fov of the 16x9 aspect ratio compared to 90 which I think is like 105 or 110 usually, it's somewhere between 100 and 110 and everybody has a different number.. valve used to say 105, now valve has changed it to 100, from 90.. they used to be the authority on this LOL.. which who knows with valve..
A lot of things in unreal are almost always locked down so that wouldn't surprise me either but considering that this is a build I would assume nothing is locked down, but probably defaults to trash, that's just how it usually is actually even with the modern unreal engine.. but back then it was pretty bad cuz they were developing it and had almost no documentation at the time for developers it was complicated situation for a lot of the people that switched to it, a pretty common problem even today but a huge problem back then for a lot of developers..
Regardless though, it's a sad sad thing that I see a lot of games that were designed in 4x3 with the 90 fov... It's not the f o v I think that really hurts the modern impression, but the view model cut off more than anything.. and just like first looks at this are like I said that that thing looks cut in half, now most people won't give a shit and don't give a shit about the view model it seems at all, something I never really understood.. but in a weapon showcase I figured you might so, just throwing that one out there if you were wondering why they kind of trash or just strange or given flashbacks from GoldenEye 64..
*( which were really cool actually I'm really sad to see people don't even notice, or don't know what to do about it etc.. I think the original Half-Life had some of the best view model placement of its era and God almost a universe better than the weird thing that they did with the second one.. and then doubled down on a few years later making it worse LOL... Ironically they also pioneered widescreen aspect ratios and this was a feature seeing more on the sides, seeing more of the view model etc.. this was before they locked it down in the engine to the 4x3 ratio.. and then the view model with it for some reason.. which I really never got, but then they undid a lot of that just recently I guess raising the cap to 100...
Still, I probably would just assume they were weak sauce like a lot of modern day view models LOL.. but half-life's are burned into my brain, especially given the contrast between the first one and the second one going from damn near perfect to how the fuck is this guy holding these things, is that why he wears such thick glasses maybe so he doesn't get his eye popped out LOL.. but yeah, it's too bad Half-Life source was a disaster because that was one of the features, proper widescreen aspect ratio and the view model was all set up and everything for you.. )
I'm amazed by the amount of paragraphs you wrote for viewmodels.
it's 4:3, not 4x3
Lmfao he uses the Chainsaw exactly like Ash from Evil Dead.
Did not know the deagle hollow point rounds in this game used the same sound effect as the halo ce shotgun lmao
Later used in Far Cry. The Desert Eagle.
The power of the almighty Halo CE shotgun in a golden handgun, the aliens would never invaded earth if they knew that.
Nuke left some radiation that can damage you.
you should try the restoration project it is great
Please modders, finish this game🙏
That or let's hope the 2002 build also gets leaks which have 90% of the game done soo modders have an easier time finishing it
@@devilbringer1102 I know... But i think Frederick Schreiber doesnt want to have a big problem with Gearbox if he leaks that build. Why just share that 2002 build to an 4Chan Annonymus user and he leak it?
@@ad7799 Yeah good point...
@@devilbringer1102 Yeah. Every developer can do that like the one who shares the South Park cancelled Game Boy Color game ROM to an annonymus and he leaked... That's not a big problem if an annonymus do that
@@ad7799 It would be cool to see what was done on the 2002 build and what changes were made compared to the October 2001 build we have now
I miss this era in games where the technology was really starting to come around and higher poly models with photo-scanned textures were the new thing.
God to think what Duke 2001 could've been like had it been finished and not sent into development hell...
It feels like something out of Half Life on crack rather than Duke Nukem.
Damn, they revamped everything and all that was for nothing
Their community who asked for a revamp: am i a joke to you
@@Nsodnoajdjksl *laughs in evil*
6:08 I’ve seen that before in Rise of the Triad!
There’s also another secret “Weapon” sorta on the last level secret stage there is a turrent that you can use in the building north west from spawn it has a sequence of enemies there’s also the secret flying enemies just below that in the sewers
hot damn so much potential, this makes the 2011 one look like a joke
But then you realize that is not a joke since it was published in 2011
Dafuq were they thinking?
This looks....... Like it would have been awesome.......
5:41 Flamethrower YAAAY.
I actually liked the released Duke Nukem Forever, but I’d love to play a completed version of this game as well.
How do you justify your shitty taste in games?
The Final version had some pretty good stuff, honestly. However. This is preferable to DN 3D rehashed selection with modern Cod weapon and ammo capacity. Not to mention ammo variants, that's a plus.
I wish this game was made back then. But instead we got is a great big dissatisfaction.
I belive gas from flamethrower can explode if you shoot it.
The muzzle flash for the Deagle is inside the gun 💀
☝️🤓actually, the M16 uses 5.56x45mm NATO cartridges.
Is this true? It's really been leaked? Why aren't any of the big gamer guys talking about it like GGGman or Civie?
I guess they are scared that Randy will come for their ass?
@@PCGamingVideos Civiee said he make a video
@@elecman748 in like 2 weeks, he's currently busy with rl problems.
Этот огнемёт просто имба!
should have tested it all on enemies, esp shrink ray and freeze and flamethrower. Mostly useless otherwise.
trip mines go on the wall zoomer
feels like a GoldSource game
That health /steriod injection-pistol like devide is seen the game Pariah and much the same
thanks the leakers a lot
i like the starship trooper tac nuke for the rocket launcher
Wanna know the funny thing? I don't think the beta pistol was that much more powerful than the final product. It just feels more powerful because it sounds punchier.
Thats what good sound design does, even if it is using stock sound that you hear everywhere lol. I like stock sounds, they make guns go BOOM.
@@rednekzombie2988 yeah, it's overused, but fun
Why they cut the M16 in the final game? I really love it that weapon when i see the trailers and screenshots
Its an ar10
@@Brown-streak_studios But why?
@@ad7799 its chambered in 7.62 in an ar platform, its either an ar10 or the more modern SR-25
@@Brown-streak_studios but why they cut that awesome weapon with the flag?
@@ad7799 because yes?
God this game wouldve been so cool
Was this game done in unreal engine 2? Because it gives off postal 2 vibes
no, it was done in modified Unreal Engine 1
I dunno why, but a lot of this is giving me HL1 vibes.
Maybe it's the desert setting and the gun models... right?
I think it’s more because of the mapping and some texture work
An ar10 with 203 grenade launcher. Seems plausible to me!
4:40 well that was disappointing
Sounds like the magnum from soldier of fortune at one point 😁
8:12 And why doesn't the chainsaw make any sounds?
4:38 nuke count: 52
Imagine if someone ports all the weapons into other games like sandbox lol
What is the point of leaking this initial model now and after all these years? Will we see another DN game?
with the source code available people might mod it&complete it..
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