Thanks, can you share it so we can get the word out? Just saw this same effect when a guy was parking his sailboat. He lost all sense of reason once he struck another boat
This accident was not caused by stress .. it was caused by ignorance of how to handle a stall. The captain knew how to handle the problem but he wasn't at the controls. The two pilots, while in the frontal lobe, "tried everything" except the one right thing. This presentation pivots very quickly off of (basically ignores) the underlying cause of the accident which was a basic understanding of the need to and how to increase air speed in this situation.
So, putting aside the fact that they were more behind the power curve than they were stalled- So what you are saying is that the pilots at the controls were not trained on stall recovery and had never demonstrated this during any of the currency rides and training? To say they were ignorant of stall recovery is to say they never did stall recovery during their private, commercial, or ATP certification process. It is also saying that they were hired and never trained without ever demonstrated stall recovery? This is very unlikely. So now, we have to ask ourselves, if they were very qualified and trained to recover from stalls, why did they fail to recognize their predicament? The body does what the brain tells it to do-there was a failure to diagnose(which requires frontal lobe function) and therefore failed to recognize and then react appropriately.
@@Loves2Fly I totally appreciate your take on this. I was wondering, do you think this might also have a cultural component to it? I remember another Air France incident were the startling effect played o big part. Whenever I visit France I can't help noticing how sheltered people seem to be there (socially, economically etc). It seems to me that this type of sheltering doesn't really allow for "amygdala exercises". And when it comes to aviation, Airbus seems to reflect that sheltering mentality also. Do you think that relying too much on automation can lead to this kind of frontal lobe disconnect or is it unrelated?
Automation definitely play a huge role in being disconnected from what the plane is doing. Personality and upbringing can also have a huge effect on response to stressors.
Wow! This should have millions of views. I've been saying for years that we need to watch what goes out of our mouths. When under high pressure to say (or yell) something negative, I've even had to grit my teeth and not say it. The atmosphere immediately goes bad when someone says things like, "we've lost control of the airplane" and it seems to infect those around it. Proverbs 15:1 "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger."
Sir, ever since the pandemic I have been illogically experiencing panic attacks where before I NEVER had (ok once when I was 14 I am 44 now) them, now I could be in a bus, a car in a church and all of a sudden BOOM! I start to panic, I want to flee but I can't (in a car) I count to ten, and I breathe slowly but nothing seems to relieve my symptoms. To make matters worse I am also experiencing post covid brain fog which started last year in July and since then I really haven't felt the same. So I think there is a link between viral infections and anxiety it's as if the frontal lobe isn't communicating with the amygdala and it's taking over. I used to LOVE to fly (as a passenger) now I can't imagine stepping on a plane again for my life. Lastly, it is my understanding regarding an aircraft that is stalling naturally pitches nose down to correct itself, doesn't it?
Sorry to hear about your anxiety. I would recommend not watching any news for the next month. Also, get a sudoku game for your phone. Open and play it anytime you feel anxious. As for the nose pitching down- there was enough thrust to keep the airplane pitched up since the controls were pulled back. Thanks for watching
@@Loves2Fly Oh belive me I have all but unplugged from civilization. I no longer post on facebook, I rarely look at my twitter feed and even though I identify as a liberal I got fed up with CNN. So I watch foxnews from time to time just to see what cnn won't discuss i.e HOW COLD IT IS!!
I'd be more interested to know why an experienced crew would plow head-on into a thunderstorm that is topping 30.0000 ft . . .Do they not know anything about hazardous weather avoidance?
They have to do activities that use the frontal lobe (math, numbers, estimations, future predictions, etc) For example, one of the pilots could have started calling out airspeed, pitch, and altitude numbers, and had the pilot on the controls read them back.
I am extremely happy I found this. About to go take my private pilot checkride so I rewatched it as a refresher and I am glad I did. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful. Hope it helped you reduce your anxiety during your ride:)
Why isn’t this viewed by millions? This is so extremely vitally important.
Buck, that is a very good question.
It's presented well but that doesn't make it accurate. I do like the presentation though. The accident was a sad example of inadequate training.
This video will help me to make others understand this concept. I have been preaching this all of my life. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
Excellent. Very insightful .This should be mandaory waching in schools.
Thanks! Please feel free the share it so we can get the word out
Man, im so glad i found your channel.
I will adopt this approach. Thank you.
Love this video!
Thanks, can you share it so we can get the word out? Just saw this same effect when a guy was parking his sailboat. He lost all sense of reason once he struck another boat
Thanks for sharing this
My pleasure. Glad it was helpful
This accident was not caused by stress .. it was caused by ignorance of how to handle a stall. The captain knew how to handle the problem but he wasn't at the controls. The two pilots, while in the frontal lobe, "tried everything" except the one right thing. This presentation pivots very quickly off of (basically ignores) the underlying cause of the accident which was a basic understanding of the need to and how to increase air speed in this situation.
So, putting aside the fact that they were more behind the power curve than they were stalled- So what you are saying is that the pilots at the controls were not trained on stall recovery and had never demonstrated this during any of the currency rides and training? To say they were ignorant of stall recovery is to say they never did stall recovery during their private, commercial, or ATP certification process. It is also saying that they were hired and never trained without ever demonstrated stall recovery? This is very unlikely. So now, we have to ask ourselves, if they were very qualified and trained to recover from stalls, why did they fail to recognize their predicament? The body does what the brain tells it to do-there was a failure to diagnose(which requires frontal lobe function) and therefore failed to recognize and then react appropriately.
@@Loves2Fly I totally appreciate your take on this. I was wondering, do you think this might also have a cultural component to it? I remember another Air France incident were the startling effect played o big part. Whenever I visit France I can't help noticing how sheltered people seem to be there (socially, economically etc). It seems to me that this type of sheltering doesn't really allow for "amygdala exercises".
And when it comes to aviation, Airbus seems to reflect that sheltering mentality also. Do you think that relying too much on automation can lead to this kind of frontal lobe disconnect or is it unrelated?
Automation definitely play a huge role in being disconnected from what the plane is doing. Personality and upbringing can also have a huge effect on response to stressors.
@@Loves2Fly Thanks for taking the time to reply! You have great content on the channel, keep up the good work 🙌
Wow! This should have millions of views. I've been saying for years that we need to watch what goes out of our mouths. When under high pressure to say (or yell) something negative, I've even had to grit my teeth and not say it. The atmosphere immediately goes bad when someone says things like, "we've lost control of the airplane" and it seems to infect those around it. Proverbs 15:1 "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger."
Beautiful scripture Paul! Thanks. Please share this so we can get the word out. It applies to every aspect of our lives.
So helpful, thank you!!
PLEASE MAKE MORE VIDEOS FOR ATPL AND PPL PILOTS!
Thanks. I’m on a one year vacation sailing with the family. I have a few ideas I will be working while I’m sailing and I will publish them.
Sir, ever since the pandemic I have been illogically experiencing panic attacks where before I NEVER had (ok once when I was 14 I am 44 now) them, now I could be in a bus, a car in a church and all of a sudden BOOM! I start to panic, I want to flee but I can't (in a car) I count to ten, and I breathe slowly but nothing seems to relieve my symptoms. To make matters worse I am also experiencing post covid brain fog which started last year in July and since then I really haven't felt the same. So I think there is a link between viral infections and anxiety it's as if the frontal lobe isn't communicating with the amygdala and it's taking over. I used to LOVE to fly (as a passenger) now I can't imagine stepping on a plane again for my life. Lastly, it is my understanding regarding an aircraft that is stalling naturally pitches nose down to correct itself, doesn't it?
Sorry to hear about your anxiety. I would recommend not watching any news for the next month. Also, get a sudoku game for your phone. Open and play it anytime you feel anxious.
As for the nose pitching down- there was enough thrust to keep the airplane pitched up since the controls were pulled back. Thanks for watching
@@Loves2Fly Oh belive me I have all but unplugged from civilization. I no longer post on facebook, I rarely look at my twitter feed and even though I identify as a liberal I got fed up with CNN. So I watch foxnews from time to time just to see what cnn won't discuss i.e HOW COLD IT IS!!
My anxiety comes from Noise unrelated
I'd be more interested to know why an experienced crew would plow head-on into a thunderstorm that is topping 30.0000 ft . . .Do they not know anything about hazardous weather avoidance?
Obviously not.
Sir what are the possible solutions to take both pilots out of the fight & flight state (Amygdala). Thank you. Blessings & Gratitude
They have to do activities that use the frontal lobe (math, numbers, estimations, future predictions, etc) For example, one of the pilots could have started calling out airspeed, pitch, and altitude numbers, and had the pilot on the controls read them back.
True...
Thanks for watching. Please spread the word
You can also overcome fear or anxiety with a calming technique called tactical breathing. Look for a description online.
Anything you do to control your breathing, engages your frontal lobe
I will adopt this approach. Thank you.