Hi Gruff, great vlog mate, I have never sold my honey before I mainly used to give it to family and friends but this season I had a good crop of honey and managed to have a great day at a farmer’s market we have once a month on the day I made myself over £200 which will go back to buy more bee stuff, I now have 12 hives going into winter let’s hope we have a mild winter and hopefully no losses going into next season. Thank you Gruff mate for sharing your vlog with us.
Good topic and not usually covered. I sell 12oz round jars as I found the hex jars were difficult to clear of bubbles. Also most jams, artisan sauces and spreads are now in the 12oz jar so it sits well on the shelf.
Another great vid. Slightly off topic - I've started using foundation free frames in my hive and was surprised at how fast the bees started drawing them out - amazingly they appear to hang, linked to each other like a chain when they are building the comb. The reason I'm trying foundation free is that there's a theory that bees are less vulnerable to varroa when they create their own comb size (which is naturally smaller in size than manufactured foundation). Also I'm hoping to keep the foundation as pure as possible. So far so good and I'll keep you updated as it goes.
Thank you 😊 that’s interesting would be great to know how you get on. My feeling is it won’t make a difference with varroa, their a hardy parasite and extremely hard to get rid of even with treatments.
@@dogblackprincehoney Hello, there. Its going very well. I'm delighted with the bees. They are happy and healthy. When I used foundation free, I attach 2 or three barbecue sticks to the frame to keep it strong and to give them a guide. So far so good. I just looked at your channel: I hope your bees are keeping very well, too. My bees are in Ireland :).
@@dogblackprincehoney Also: there is a youtube video for making Foundation Free Frames: the video is called: 'Foundation Free Hive Frames - Andrew Lane'
The 28 grams jar is my most sold item, but what a tedious lot off work, next to that the 1/2 kilogram, but that market is because I’m surrounded by 6000 tourists hotels on this island
Hi Gwenin! I was on youtube searching for ways to pack jars for shipping and stumbled on this great video. I'm a Portuguese part time beekeper (weekend and vacation) with around 60 hives and I produce in a good year around 700 to 900 kilos of honey and sell it mostly locally and some also to retail. I started this journey on 2014, so almost 10 years producing honey. I feel that I'm a good honey producer by I was lacking some marketing skills and this year I started to look at the business with a different perspective. And I have the same opinion like you, the jar has to stand up against the competition on the shelve, either by the correct size or even by the correct and most attractive label. I've been selling only 1kg jars but this year I will bring also the 480g and maybe some smaller ones to address different markets. At this moment I totally share your thought, I'm not into making huge profits but expanding my number of customers with a good value for money product (Oak, Chestnut and Heather mix)! Keep up the good work and thank you for bringing this important topic to the beekeeping table! Cheers from Portugal.😉
Great info. Something I’ve been struggling with. I want to give as much honey as I can to my customers but still cover my costs but never my time lol that would be some expensive honey 🤣
@@gwenyngruffydd how do you differentiate between raw honey and natural but treated honey? Some suppliers claim their honey is raw but in actual fact it's treated and strained.
Hi, It’s actually illegal to call any honey in the U.K. raw. Our honey is not pasteurised or given to much heat so that it does not damage the honey. I would personally class our bogey as raw but I’m not legally allowed. I suppose the only “raw” honey on the market is honey comb. Every honey is filtered slightly to remove bits of bee and wax from it. Highly processed honey is heat treated to stop it crystallising and most of it pressure filtered through very fine strainers that removes all the pollen in the honey. That’s the type of honey you don’t want.
Thanks for the beekeeping videos. They're really helpful. Hope this doesn't sound too daft but I'm writing a book and it has a beekeeping theme. Your videos have been really helpful for accurate research 🙂
Very very cool vid, i have had a good year lots of good splits and if this winter is not to bad next year i could be in the position sell product, could you point me i the direction of a good cheap glass vendor. And thanks again for the vid
Thanks for an informative video. You say 12oz gives a little bit more honey then 8oz. Really it's 50% more honey. Obviously packaging costs are less but in my opinion I'm surprised you say there is only a pound difference in price from 8oz to 12oz. A 12oz jar should cost 30% or 40% more than 8oz.
Great question and totally get where your coming from. The larger the jar the less the honey costs. (Bulk discount) So it kinds of works out. In reality buying honey in 8oz is an expensive way of buying honey. And makes the 12oz look cheap.
@@gwenyngruffydd True thanks. I was in the supermarket today and stopped to look at the honey, jams etc and noticed all the jars are 12oz alright, interesting! Most local beekeepers here are selling in 8oz jars. Hoping next year to have my first harvest so I'll have to decide on jars during the summer. Thanka again for this video and all your beekeeper tips!
Great info thanks. I did 8oz this year as only had a small harvest. Hopefully next year I will be able to offer the 12oz size. I will hopefully be looking to source outlets, what price would you recommend to sell the 8oz & 12 oz at for wholesale?
Trade would like to to make a 25%-35% margin. Work out what you would like for the honey then deduct the percentage. I don’t like telling people what price they should sell theirs at. Only you can decide that 😊🐝
I think it’s a great size too. Old school and a classic that people love. Originally I didn’t want any round jars just the hex. Which is probably the reason I never went down the 1lb jar. But I could not find a 1kg hex jar hence why the big jar is round. It’s so much easier labelling the round jars though!! But back to the 1lb jar. People love it. Especially people who are middle age + it’s the jar they grew up with.
@@gwenyngruffydd Thank you. I prefer the looks of the hex jars too, I use 12oz hex and 1lb round. My local shop stocks my hex 12oz and I sell the 1lb at the door so I’m not directly competing. The disadvantage of hex is that if I’m looking for assistance when labelling, the LabelRoo (which I’m considering investing in) only works with round jars.
I know!! No excuses I cut my own hair too!! 😂 Yes we have sold a full frame in the past and currently have cut comb for sale on the website. People do love cut comb and it makes an excellent gift.
Do you no if I can import a company honey and put my own label on it?some called white label ?would you supply me honey and I jar it and label it with my brand name on it?
We do that with some companies but not really looking to do it. You can buy any bulk honey and label it under your own brand. That’s what all big honey packers do
Hi, Good question. Round is easier to label. But I find the hex jar looks nice. Don’t think either gives you a selling advantage. More to do with the label.
Why are we still talking about onces and kilos? Why are we mixing the units? Just stick with metric I think, Thats how I bottle my honey anyway in 250 gramme jars or 500 gramme jars.🙂
@@gwenyngruffydd Having one size of jar would greatly simplify operation. In Germany there is no half or quarter kilo jars. There is not bigger than 1kg either. Customers are happy as they dont want to pay for packaging. One jar one label one cap - simply. Great videos btw👍
great down to earth delivery and advice well done.
Glad you enjoyed it!😊
Everything you say makes great sense. Thanks
Thanks 😊
Great topic, thank you for sharing ❤
No problem 😌
Hi Gruff, great vlog mate, I have never sold my honey before I mainly used to give it to family and friends but this season I had a good crop of honey and managed to have a great day at a farmer’s market we have once a month on the day I made myself over £200 which will go back to buy more bee stuff, I now have 12 hives going into winter let’s hope we have a mild winter and hopefully no losses going into next season. Thank you Gruff mate for sharing your vlog with us.
Hi,
That’s great news!! Onwards and upwards now!! 😁😁
No problem glad your finding the channel useful 😊
This is a priceless tips thank you
Your welcome 🤗
Great video and great info thank you very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! 😊
Good topic and not usually covered. I sell 12oz round jars as I found the hex jars were difficult to clear of bubbles. Also most jams, artisan sauces and spreads are now in the 12oz jar so it sits well on the shelf.
The round jar is nice. And easy to label 😊
Thank you for the information. It's super helpful 👍
No problem 😊
Another great vid. Slightly off topic - I've started using foundation free frames in my hive and was surprised at how fast the bees started drawing them out - amazingly they appear to hang, linked to each other like a chain when they are building the comb. The reason I'm trying foundation free is that there's a theory that bees are less vulnerable to varroa when they create their own comb size (which is naturally smaller in size than manufactured foundation). Also I'm hoping to keep the foundation as pure as possible. So far so good and I'll keep you updated as it goes.
Thank you 😊 that’s interesting would be great to know how you get on. My feeling is it won’t make a difference with varroa, their a hardy parasite and extremely hard to get rid of even with treatments.
@@gwenyngruffydd Thanks, I'll see how it goes and keep you posted.
@@jackspring7709 How does it do with foundation free frames?
@@dogblackprincehoney Hello, there. Its going very well. I'm delighted with the bees. They are happy and healthy. When I used foundation free, I attach 2 or three barbecue sticks to the frame to keep it strong and to give them a guide. So far so good. I just looked at your channel: I hope your bees are keeping very well, too. My bees are in Ireland :).
@@dogblackprincehoney Also: there is a youtube video for making Foundation Free Frames: the video is called: 'Foundation Free Hive Frames - Andrew Lane'
Great video, thanks so much
No problem, glad you found it useful 😊
The 28 grams jar is my most sold item, but what a tedious lot off work, next to that the 1/2 kilogram, but that market is because I’m surrounded by 6000 tourists hotels on this island
Always handy to know👍
😊👍🏻
Hi Gwenin! I was on youtube searching for ways to pack jars for shipping and stumbled on this great video. I'm a Portuguese part time beekeper (weekend and vacation) with around 60 hives and I produce in a good year around 700 to 900 kilos of honey and sell it mostly locally and some also to retail. I started this journey on 2014, so almost 10 years producing honey. I feel that I'm a good honey producer by I was lacking some marketing skills and this year I started to look at the business with a different perspective. And I have the same opinion like you, the jar has to stand up against the competition on the shelve, either by the correct size or even by the correct and most attractive label. I've been selling only 1kg jars but this year I will bring also the 480g and maybe some smaller ones to address different markets. At this moment I totally share your thought, I'm not into making huge profits but expanding my number of customers with a good value for money product (Oak, Chestnut and Heather mix)! Keep up the good work and thank you for bringing this important topic to the beekeeping table! Cheers from Portugal.😉
Thank you 😊
Good idea!
Thanks 😊
Love the Welsh accent!
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Great info. Something I’ve been struggling with. I want to give as much honey as I can to my customers but still cover my costs but never my time lol that would be some expensive honey 🤣
😂😂😂
Good video, I really enjoyed that one!
Thanks Rhodri 😊
Loved this video!
Thanks 😊
@@gwenyngruffydd how do you differentiate between raw honey and natural but treated honey?
Some suppliers claim their honey is raw but in actual fact it's treated and strained.
Hi,
It’s actually illegal to call any honey in the U.K. raw.
Our honey is not pasteurised or given to much heat so that it does not damage the honey. I would personally class our bogey as raw but I’m not legally allowed.
I suppose the only “raw” honey on the market is honey comb. Every honey is filtered slightly to remove bits of bee and wax from it.
Highly processed honey is heat treated to stop it crystallising and most of it pressure filtered through very fine strainers that removes all the pollen in the honey.
That’s the type of honey you don’t want.
انا من اليمن معي كميات كبيرة شهد عسل سدر وسمرة ومراعي صيفي كيف اجيب عملاء من خارج اليمن وكيف أصدر ممكن تتكرم ترشدنا
على كم الكيلو
Thanks for This video ! That's a smart way of thinking :) And I even can understand Your accent :) so thumb up and subscribed !! cheers !
Thank you so much 😊
Pints and quarts imperial here, in Yellow Springs, Ohio, USA. Easier for cash size. Single bill.
Agreed 👍🏻 cost of living is hitting us all
Thanks for the beekeeping videos. They're really helpful. Hope this doesn't sound too daft but I'm writing a book and it has a beekeeping theme. Your videos have been really helpful for accurate research 🙂
Glad your enjoying the channel and I’m super happy your using it for research to help with your book 😁🐝🐝
@@gwenyngruffydd
It isn't anything intellectual though. It's a romantic comedy and the heroine is a beekeeper 🙂
Souls like a best seller! 😁
Sounds
@@gwenyngruffydd
Will keep you posted once I finish it!
I agree, I sell 8oz and 12oz but 12oz is bar far the best seller.
It’s a good all rounder 😊
thanks
You welcome 🤗
Speaking of honey. Did you find the honey thief? Great pointers. Thanks!!!
Not yet! 🧐 thanks glad you enjoyed the video 😊
Sell (on a small scale) all my honey in 12oz seems to right size for most people. Where do you get your labels or do you print yourself?
Hi, we designed them and get them printed locally
Great video…does this still apply for 2024?
By now the 8oz is probably the best seller due to the cost of living.
1kg is still a popular choice
@@gwenyngruffydd Many thanks!!
Very very cool vid, i have had a good year lots of good splits and if this winter is not to bad next year i could be in the position sell product, could you point me i the direction of a good cheap glass vendor. And thanks again for the vid
Hi, thanks for the comment 😊
Compac and Freeman and Harding are good suppliers and so is C Wynn Jones.
Hope this helps 😊
@@gwenyngruffydd very cool thanks
Thanks for an informative video. You say 12oz gives a little bit more honey then 8oz. Really it's 50% more honey. Obviously packaging costs are less but in my opinion I'm surprised you say there is only a pound difference in price from 8oz to 12oz. A 12oz jar should cost 30% or 40% more than 8oz.
Great question and totally get where your coming from. The larger the jar the less the honey costs. (Bulk discount) So it kinds of works out.
In reality buying honey in 8oz is an expensive way of buying honey. And makes the 12oz look cheap.
@@gwenyngruffydd True thanks. I was in the supermarket today and stopped to look at the honey, jams etc and noticed all the jars are 12oz alright, interesting! Most local beekeepers here are selling in 8oz jars. Hoping next year to have my first harvest so I'll have to decide on jars during the summer. Thanka again for this video and all your beekeeper tips!
No problem, glad you found it useful 😊
@@DublinVideos I found this really helpful. Thanks alot
this is very cool, you are only for sale, or you can still buy
Thanks, I’m not sure what your asking me?
We assume that large quantities of Yemen are large and varied quantities of Yemen and how kindly to guide us.
Great info thanks. I did 8oz this year as only had a small harvest. Hopefully next year I will be able to offer the 12oz size. I will hopefully be looking to source outlets, what price would you recommend to sell the 8oz & 12 oz at for wholesale?
Trade would like to to make a 25%-35% margin. Work out what you would like for the honey then deduct the percentage.
I don’t like telling people what price they should sell theirs at. Only you can decide that 😊🐝
@@gwenyngruffydd That's perfect, thank you.
Thank you for a great video. The one size you don’t do and didn’t mention is 1lb/454g jar. What is your view of that size?
I think it’s a great size too. Old school and a classic that people love.
Originally I didn’t want any round jars just the hex. Which is probably the reason I never went down the 1lb jar.
But I could not find a 1kg hex jar hence why the big jar is round.
It’s so much easier labelling the round jars though!!
But back to the 1lb jar. People love it. Especially people who are middle age + it’s the jar they grew up with.
@@gwenyngruffydd Thank you. I prefer the looks of the hex jars too, I use 12oz hex and 1lb round. My local shop stocks my hex 12oz and I sell the 1lb at the door so I’m not directly competing. The disadvantage of hex is that if I’m looking for assistance when labelling, the LabelRoo (which I’m considering investing in) only works with round jars.
We have a Swienty labeler, but it is tricky!
See you got the lockdown haircut going grif.Good helpful video , you ever done anything with cut comb?
I know!! No excuses I cut my own hair too!! 😂
Yes we have sold a full frame in the past and currently have cut comb for sale on the website. People do love cut comb and it makes an excellent gift.
@@gwenyngruffydd tidy! That vid was really good mate , was something I'd been thinking about for a while !
Glad you found it useful 😊
Hey what's the minimum investment of this business, I'm from India
What size bee farm are you planning?
Where did you get your lables done?
Hi we designed them and got them printed by a local printer.
Do you no if I can import a company honey and put my own label on it?some called white label ?would you supply me honey and I jar it and label it with my brand name on it?
We do that with some companies but not really looking to do it.
You can buy any bulk honey and label it under your own brand. That’s what all big honey packers do
I’d like to know where you get your labels printed. Can you tell me?
Hi Graham! That’s top secret!! 😉
My advice is to use a local printer to you. Somewhere you can go to and physically see and build a relationship with.
Hard to do that online
@@gwenyngruffydd Ah I see. Sounds expensive.
It’s not the cheapest option but a must if your building a brand and want unique labels
May I have written sizes of the honey jars in grams please.
12oz is 340g
8oz is 227g
5oz is 142g
What's the average price for honey I got six five gallon buckets that needs a home
Between £3-£3.60 per pound in buckets. What area are you from?
@@gwenyngruffydd South Carolina in the states
Talk with beekeepers in the area I guarantee you one of them would want to buy it.
I only sell one lb jars!
Nothing wrong with that! The old classic! 😊👍🏻
Thank you I'm hoping to sell honey from a supplier
Your welcome 🤗
Many thanks for useful video. Have you noticed any preference in jar shape ? Do round jars sell better than hexagon jars ?
Hi,
Good question. Round is easier to label. But I find the hex jar looks nice.
Don’t think either gives you a selling advantage. More to do with the label.
Why are we still talking about onces and kilos? Why are we mixing the units? Just stick with metric I think, Thats how I bottle my honey anyway in 250 gramme jars or 500 gramme jars.🙂
Beekeepers in the U.K. are old school! 🙈
i sell honey
Great video!
Thank you 😊
Whole world is selling honey per kilo jar. Only UK is always behind with everything like sizes of jars or introducing new technologies.
We sell kilo jars too, different countries different cultures. The world would be boring if we were all the same.
@@gwenyngruffydd Having one size of jar would greatly simplify operation. In Germany there is no half or quarter kilo jars. There is not bigger than 1kg either. Customers are happy as they dont want to pay for packaging. One jar one label one cap - simply. Great videos btw👍
Agree with you. In the U.K. different markets prefer different sizes.
It’s just something we need to do to be in as many markets as we can.
You’ve never been to America, not a single metric measurement to be found in the grocery store.
@@timmcdermed8136 yea you guys still have a long way to go
Wi credu taw’r pris yw’r peth. £7 yw limit seicolegol pobol, felly bydden i’n iwso pa bynnag jar sy’n cyfateb i tua £5-7 werth o fêl.
Syniad da! 😊👍🏻
Plastic jar will be more practical I think
true but some consumers refuse to buy plastic
@@gwenyngruffydd hehe yes consumer need to be educated. But are glass better for packing honey than plastic jar ?
I would say glass is better but plastic is cheaper