Newbie Tamamo Fan: So... I wanna get to know Tamamo a lot better. Where do I start? Veteran Tamamo Fan: *_Five-hour thesis dissertation on Amaterasu, syncretism, bunrei, Daji, several treatises on Imaginary Numbers and curses and Yin Energy and the underworld, Abe-no-Seimei's kitsune heritage, the Tamamo-Osakabehime kin drama flame war, Tamamo being derived from elements of other Nasu characters like Medusa, Sakura, and Kohaku's Magical Amber costume, and a completely longwinded ranting tangent about how Koyanskaya's lore sucks before admitting that Tamamo Cat is still the best_* Veteran Tamamo Fan: _...got that memorized?_ Newbie Tamamo Fan: 3:31
For those wondering, yes, the Executors use a different Magecraft theory called Holy Sacraments than the one used by the Magi Association (Thaumaturgy or Magecraft). The Holy Sacraments are so strong because a Thaumaturgical Theory becomes stronger the more people believes in it, and Christianity is the most popular religion. Meanwhile, Magecraft studies the laws of the world, and as science is progressing, Magecraft is weakening, because it understands them instead of just believing, like in a religion.
@@liddel137 To explain myself better, I will use an example. Christians don't question how Moses was able to split the Red Sea. They believe that God power did it. That's it, not explanation required, only faith. On the other hand, ¿how does one makes fire? By applying heat to a fuel source, and it works as long as oxygen is present. ¿Do you notice the difference? A Magecraft theory gets weaker the more people understands it.
Hmm. Another answer is that Magecraft is becoming more and more insular, amassing Mystery but ultimately losing belief in it. Magi keep the proof of the existence of magic a secret, and so belief in it in the Human Order begins to dwindle and dwindle until... the magic goes away.
Suddenly Ciel bringing up that Black Keys run on faith and their relative difficulty puts into perspective just how _broken_ a man Kirei was: Who's to say he didn't take up the challenge of wielding Black Keys _because he was trying to answer his questions about his broken nature?_ Maybe when he first took them up, he picked them so that he could prove to himself he was "good", or "faithful". If the powers of the Keys run on belief and magical power, then maybe taking them up was something he did for the sake of testing himself, as yet one of the many masochistic tests of faith he kept subjecting himself to all to prove something or defy what he felt within himself. ...and well, look where that got him. ...also, it's hilarious how Ciel starts off correcting herself from "magical energy" to "the power of faith", before dropping the whole thing by the end of her spiel. ...I wonder: who was the swordsman who invented the Black Keys? Narbareck?
@@serikaonoe6493 Sadly they aren't, but Strange fake shows you can technically have elements of both canons working in parallel in one timeline. The only difference between Tsuki and Fate timelines is whether Alaya (humanity, human history, and Servants) is the dominant force, or Gaia (Fae, Phantasmal Species, -vampires- Dead Apostles, and Mama Nature herself) holds sway. Basically this means "Fate stories are relatively lighter because humans have a chance to make the world as they see fit", while Tsukihime is "humanity is struggling against the supernatural in an elaborate war in the shadows, and the vampires are winning. For now."
To be fair, most people look like a complete joke compared to Ciel, especially Remake Ciel. And to Kirei's credit, Nasu said that Kirei at his most strongest moment *may* have been able to take on original Ciel. Even if it was because he was being buffed ten ways to sunday by commanded seals, that's still impressive. Remake Ciel would crush that Kirei easily though. She would skewer him with a hundred black keys before he could even get going. "Kirei's prowess Nasu: You want to know exactly how powerful Kirei is? You'll have to ask Gen Urobuchi. (laughs) Takeuchi: Well, after being doused in so much of the Holy Grail, I imagine his physical body has been weakened significantly from his "Zero" days. Nasu: For someone who died like that to be alive ten years later is quite a feat in and of itself. Kirei has quite a few Command Spells on his arms, and we were actually thinking about using cool visual effects to show the Command Seals being expended when he was defeating Zouken in "stay night". Even a flesh-and-blood human could damage a Heroic Spirit by using ten or so Command Spells. Unfortunately, we didn't get the change to show this because True Assassin was less effective than we had all hoped. (laughs) Takeuchi: I imagine people who played the game felt the same way, though it remains unclear as to whether it was a case of Kirei being too strong or True Assassin not being strong enough. Nasu: True Assassin is a careful servant who never lowers his guard. He uses distance to defend against and ultimately finish the target. As his final checkmate move, True Assassin uses Zabaniya: Delusional Heartbeat, but even he wasn't sure what to think when he tried to use his Noble Phantasm on Kirei. Takeuchi: He was like "This guy doesn't even have a heart...?" Nasu: That was all the opportunity Kirei needed to get to Zouken... so it was definitely True Assassin's lack of preparation that resulted in Zouken's demise. Takeuchi: I don't think anyone can really blame him, though. Why would anyone stop to think that this living, breathing human being might not have a normal human heart, right? Nasu: Kirei's role in Sakura's route was essentially the opposite of the whole "wouldn't it be scary if Saber was an enemy?" concept in that we took the guy everyone hated and made him a formidable ally. I believe that particular idea was summed up well in that one scene where Kirei was running with Illya in his arms. While Shirou was the uncertain adolescent in "stay night", Kirei had already dealt with his uncertainties by "Zero", making him incredibly powerful. When infiltrating Einzbern Castle, Kirei asked "You haven't even been rock climbing before?" as if it was the most basic milestone of childhood. It makes you wonder about Kirei's childhood... (laughs) Takeuchi: Speaking of being powerful... Who's stronger: Ciel or Kirei? Nasu: Ciel is by far more powerful. Just take her lineage into consideration, and add to that her immortality. Kirei's prowess in "Zero" was rooted in the sheer number of Command Spells at his disposal as much as it was in his obsession with Kiritsugu. Suffice to say, it was his golden age. I believe the "Zero" Kirei could have defeated Ciel."
@@thearrowblackcabary4016 I know about what Nasu said about Prime Kirei I was talking about remake Ciel feats comparing them to Kirei from zero really though most of the characters have gotten big buffs though Ciel I would say got the biggest when comparing her feats in the og Tsuki Shiki also got buff in the remake Nasu said that he killed Roa legs along with corridor It's easy, isn't it? One of the reasons for this is that there will be more flashy developments later. Then, the horror of the "end when you meet" type that "Tsukihime" had in the first place-the scene that I dared not modify because I wanted to retain the element of so-called Japanese horror. However, there are a lot of hints ... It may be a while before we can understand the true meaning of that scene. 4Gamer: The scene in that passageway was one of the scenes that I was thinking about while playing. By the way, Shiki was killing Lore's leg along with the corridor, but does that mean anything? Mr. Nasu: There is a proper meaning. Also, I think everyone has doubts about the fact that there is only one route for Arcueid ... either way. In the old game he just killed the corridor and that crush Roa lower body but in the remake Shiki was able to kill his legs along with the Corridor that some next level stuff even Ryougi does not have a feat like that makes me wonder if he could learn to do that whenever he want or if that was a one time thing
@@TheMightOfGeburah Neither is Shiki Tohno he only beat Vlov with help from Arcueid and Ciel if it was a one on one fight Shiki stands no chance the only way I could maybe see him winning is if he could kill from range like with Roa but we don't know if that was a one time thing or if he could learn how to do that normally with training also even if he could do that he was only able to kill Roa legs not Roa whole body and he had to push his eyes to the limit in order to pull this off after pushing himself that hard he's going to have hard time moving after stabbing Roa death point he fell to the ground do to pushing himself so hard Also Nasu as made it clear that Ryougi is a better user of the Mystic eyes of death perception than Tohno we have this statement The protagonist of Kara no Kyoukai. Able to see lines of death, just like Tohno Shiki. She wears a traditional kimono paired with a leather jacket and high-laced boots. Though she always carries a knife, her true talent is with the katana. The last name "Ryougi" and first name "Shiki" both have an appropriate meaning. Consequently as a user of the mystic eyes of death perception it can be said she is several ranks higher than Tohno Shiki, who is pretty much her polar opposite. It said she several ranks higher than Tohno when it comes to being a user of death perception and her knife skills are compared to Shiki nanaya you know the one who could kill Tohno many times in kagetsu tohya she on the same level as him and Ryougi is at her strongest when fighting with a sword not a knife that just goes to show how strong Ryougi is Now this statement was talking about 2000 tsukihime Shiki but I think it could apply to remake Shiki as well Ryougi does not have to strain herself when using the eyes the same way Tohno does and she done things like kill the future and other concepts that Tohno has not done The only thing Remake Shiki has done with the eyes that I would put above Ryougi is being able to see Vlov past by focusing on his death point though we have to remember that Ryougi does not see death points only lines so this might be something only Tohno could do and Killing Roa legs along with the corridor But like I said we don't know if these are things he could do whenever he wants or if it was a one time thing
@@ken123866 I’m talking about the OG Shiki Tohno who has inhuman feats and didn’t require help from Arcueid to take down a much stronger Dead Apostle Ancestor (Nrvnqsr Chaos), the reason Remake Shiki Tohno ended up killing Roa’s legs was because Roa decided to try to attack Shiki Tohno instead of run away like in the OG, he had far better feats than Shiki Ryougi and it was confirmed in the OG that he can kill Substances and the meaning of things which out ranks killing Concepts, in the Remake Shiki Tohno can see the End Of Space, Roa literally felt threatened by Shiki Tohno’s Death Perception in both versions, Shiki Tohno killing points is death itself instead of just dicing a Life Span like Shiki Ryougi. Shiki Tohno is comparable to Roa lmao. Nasu’s statement is outdated and contradicted. Points > Lines and Shiki Ryougi can’t see lines. He claimed the reason Shiki Ryougi was better in the technique was because of having a link to the Root ignoring that Shiki Tohno has the same blessing. Yeah, just lines of death, she almost bursted her brain fighting Souren Araya trying to see a Scribble meanwhile Shiki Tohno described several Scribbles when killing Arcueid. Comparing her to Shiki Nanaya is massive wank, Shiki Nanaya could move in instantaneous motions and could defeat Akiha in her vermillion state who was confirmed to be on par with a Rampaging Arcueid if not exceed that and has a impulse on par with her. Melty Blood Act Cadenza PS2 Manual - Dictionary: Vermillion Akiha [Person's name], p.053 Akiha Vermillion [Person's name] Akiha in a state close to Crimson Red Vermilion. Through sheer willpower alone, she is able to control her rampage and avoid fully becoming a Crimson Red Vermilion. Or rather, for Akiha this form is actually what she looks like when she's conserving her strength, and her normal form is the result of her actively using her power to suppress her oni blood. It's quite similar to the situation with Arcueid and her vampiric impulse. Properly speaking, becoming a Crimson Red Vermilion means completely losing your ability to reason, but it seems even in this state Akiha still has some sanity left. This, too, is probably by virtue of her high aptitude for it. Collapse[v] Tsukihime Dokuhon PlusPeriod - TSUKIHIME Dictionary: Tohno Akiha [Person's name], p.185 Akiha Tohno [Person's name] One of the heroines in Tsukihime. Shiki's younger sister, and the Tohno family's heir. She has long black hair and a dignified posture, firm speech, and an unendearing personality. On top of that, her love of strict discipline can make her somewhat hard to get along with. Perhaps it's because she doesn't think much of the way Shiki lived doing whatever he pleased for eight years, but she lashes out at him every chance she gets. Though she is basically straightforward and honest at her core, she is also unyielding and hates losing, so her true personality rarely gets a chance to shine. She was one of the people involved in the accident eight years ago, after which her dormant Tohno blood was awakened. Though she would have been able to suppress it if she only had to worry about herself, she was carrying the burden of two people. As a result, she started being attacked by seizures nearly every night, and at Kohaku's suggestion began drinking blood to maintain her body. …Of course, it was all just a scheme to push Akiha closer to her Tohno nature. Probably, even Akiha herself was aware of it on some level. In one of the routes, she ended up inverting and demonstrating her power to its fullest extent. That dreadful form, with its fluttering vermilion hair, is probably capable of exceeding even a rampaging Arcueid. ^^^^^^ Sorry but Shiki Nanaya macks tf out of Shiki Ryougi, the comparison isn’t even close, Shiki Tohno actually beats Shiki Nanaya in Melty Blood Act Cadenza too so Rest In Peace. Show me Shiki Ryougi killing points and using points as a nexus to destroy multiple things at once, please do that and I will concede that Shiki Ryougi is at least on par with Shiki Tohno in the art of direct death perception. Sion Eltnam already stated that Shiki Tohno can kill concepts beyond comprehension even if you denied him killing Substances of things. If Shiki Ryougi doesn’t see Points then she’s inferior to Roa and Shiki Tohno as Points are Death Itself whereas Lines are simply where things break easily, this would be horrible against a Dead Apostle Ancestor and True Ancestors where They can’t break easily and you have to generate a death mark. OG Shiki Tohno did the same thing again in Melty Blood Act 2 Manga against Giant Akiha so it’s not a DEATH exclusive thing.
That use something called an 'Ash lock'- From Case Files materials- Ash Lock [Other] Standard equipment used by the Executors of the Holy Church. Unlike the Black Keys that Executors are also known for, which take a considerable amount of training to use effectively, the Ash Lock is a powerful Conceptual Weapon that can demonstrate great ability with a minimum of training. Normally they are disguised as gloves or boots, but by removing their tag, they revert to their original form. Used by a large number of Executors, they come in a variety of forms. While Ilumia elected for a hand-to-hand fighting type, versions using things like small blades or crossbows also exist.
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Newbie Nasuverse Fan: (ask an innocuous lore question)
Veteran Nasuverse Fan:
Newbie Nasuverse Fan: How strong is Shiki Ryougi?
Veteran Nasuverse Fan: *Talks about Half-Bloods, Demon Hunters, the Root, Origins and Mystic Eyes*
Newbie Nasuverse Fan: 3:31
Basically me
Newbie Tamamo Fan: So... I wanna get to know Tamamo a lot better. Where do I start?
Veteran Tamamo Fan: *_Five-hour thesis dissertation on Amaterasu, syncretism, bunrei, Daji, several treatises on Imaginary Numbers and curses and Yin Energy and the underworld, Abe-no-Seimei's kitsune heritage, the Tamamo-Osakabehime kin drama flame war, Tamamo being derived from elements of other Nasu characters like Medusa, Sakura, and Kohaku's Magical Amber costume, and a completely longwinded ranting tangent about how Koyanskaya's lore sucks before admitting that Tamamo Cat is still the best_*
Veteran Tamamo Fan: _...got that memorized?_
Newbie Tamamo Fan: 3:31
This is what happens when you make the mistake of asking a lore related question
Nasu low key calling out the fans of his works through Ciel. Very cool Mushroom man.
3:31 Shiki looking "I shouldn't have asked, I really shouldn't have asked"
For those wondering, yes, the Executors use a different Magecraft theory called Holy Sacraments than the one used by the Magi Association (Thaumaturgy or Magecraft). The Holy Sacraments are so strong because a Thaumaturgical Theory becomes stronger the more people believes in it, and Christianity is the most popular religion.
Meanwhile, Magecraft studies the laws of the world, and as science is progressing, Magecraft is weakening, because it understands them instead of just believing, like in a religion.
TL;DR, infinite black keys if you believe in Jesus.
so in that sense understanding is wrong and believing is right?
@@liddel137 To explain myself better, I will use an example. Christians don't question how Moses was able to split the Red Sea. They believe that God power did it. That's it, not explanation required, only faith. On the other hand, ¿how does one makes fire? By applying heat to a fuel source, and it works as long as oxygen is present. ¿Do you notice the difference? A Magecraft theory gets weaker the more people understands it.
Hmm. Another answer is that Magecraft is becoming more and more insular, amassing Mystery but ultimately losing belief in it.
Magi keep the proof of the existence of magic a secret, and so belief in it in the Human Order begins to dwindle and dwindle until... the magic goes away.
My eyes are swirling like Shiki's while reading all of this
4:18 Shiki looks like he's being brainwashed lmao
Consider what she does in the maids' story mode in Type Lumina, it wouldn''t surprise me if she did.
Brainwashing Detective Hisui, time to hang up that Inverness cloak. We have a new brainwashing champ in town!
3:30; Shiki face in classroom is hilarious! He be tripping imagine agests brusting from the windows right night!
Suddenly Ciel bringing up that Black Keys run on faith and their relative difficulty puts into perspective just how _broken_ a man Kirei was:
Who's to say he didn't take up the challenge of wielding Black Keys _because he was trying to answer his questions about his broken nature?_
Maybe when he first took them up, he picked them so that he could prove to himself he was "good", or "faithful". If the powers of the Keys run on belief and magical power, then maybe taking them up was something he did for the sake of testing himself, as yet one of the many masochistic tests of faith he kept subjecting himself to all to prove something or defy what he felt within himself.
...and well, look where that got him.
...also, it's hilarious how Ciel starts off correcting herself from "magical energy" to "the power of faith", before dropping the whole thing by the end of her spiel.
...I wonder: who was the swordsman who invented the Black Keys? Narbareck?
Roa did
Man, I never thought about that. Such a cool detail, I wish fate and tsuki were still in the same universe.
@@serikaonoe6493 Sadly they aren't, but Strange fake shows you can technically have elements of both canons working in parallel in one timeline.
The only difference between Tsuki and Fate timelines is whether Alaya (humanity, human history, and Servants) is the dominant force, or Gaia (Fae, Phantasmal Species, -vampires- Dead Apostles, and Mama Nature herself) holds sway.
Basically this means "Fate stories are relatively lighter because humans have a chance to make the world as they see fit", while Tsukihime is "humanity is struggling against the supernatural in an elaborate war in the shadows, and the vampires are winning. For now."
@@serikaonoe6493 i like to think all the anime adaptions are in the same universe
I thought Kirei skills with black keys where crazy but after seeing Ciel use hundreds of them in battle she makes Kirei look like a joke
To be fair, most people look like a complete joke compared to Ciel, especially Remake Ciel. And to Kirei's credit, Nasu said that Kirei at his most strongest moment *may* have been able to take on original Ciel. Even if it was because he was being buffed ten ways to sunday by commanded seals, that's still impressive.
Remake Ciel would crush that Kirei easily though. She would skewer him with a hundred black keys before he could even get going.
"Kirei's prowess
Nasu: You want to know exactly how powerful Kirei is? You'll have to ask Gen Urobuchi. (laughs)
Takeuchi: Well, after being doused in so much of the Holy Grail, I imagine his physical body has been weakened significantly from his "Zero" days.
Nasu: For someone who died like that to be alive ten years later is quite a feat in and of itself. Kirei has quite a few Command Spells on his arms, and we were actually thinking about using cool visual effects to show the Command Seals being expended when he was defeating Zouken in "stay night". Even a flesh-and-blood human could damage a Heroic Spirit by using ten or so Command Spells. Unfortunately, we didn't get the change to show this because True Assassin was less effective than we had all hoped. (laughs)
Takeuchi: I imagine people who played the game felt the same way, though it remains unclear as to whether it was a case of Kirei being too strong or True Assassin not being strong enough.
Nasu: True Assassin is a careful servant who never lowers his guard. He uses distance to defend against and ultimately finish the target. As his final checkmate move, True Assassin uses Zabaniya: Delusional Heartbeat, but even he wasn't sure what to think when he tried to use his Noble Phantasm on Kirei.
Takeuchi: He was like "This guy doesn't even have a heart...?"
Nasu: That was all the opportunity Kirei needed to get to Zouken... so it was definitely True Assassin's lack of preparation that resulted in Zouken's demise.
Takeuchi: I don't think anyone can really blame him, though. Why would anyone stop to think that this living, breathing human being might not have a normal human heart, right?
Nasu: Kirei's role in Sakura's route was essentially the opposite of the whole "wouldn't it be scary if Saber was an enemy?" concept in that we took the guy everyone hated and made him a formidable ally. I believe that particular idea was summed up well in that one scene where Kirei was running with Illya in his arms. While Shirou was the uncertain adolescent in "stay night", Kirei had already dealt with his uncertainties by "Zero", making him incredibly powerful. When infiltrating Einzbern Castle, Kirei asked "You haven't even been rock climbing before?" as if it was the most basic milestone of childhood. It makes you wonder about Kirei's childhood... (laughs)
Takeuchi: Speaking of being powerful... Who's stronger: Ciel or Kirei?
Nasu: Ciel is by far more powerful. Just take her lineage into consideration, and add to that her immortality. Kirei's prowess in "Zero" was rooted in the sheer number of Command Spells at his disposal as much as it was in his obsession with Kiritsugu. Suffice to say, it was his golden age. I believe the "Zero" Kirei could have defeated Ciel."
@@thearrowblackcabary4016 I know about what Nasu said about Prime Kirei I was talking about remake Ciel feats comparing them to Kirei from zero really though most of the characters have gotten big buffs though Ciel I would say got the biggest when comparing her feats in the og Tsuki
Shiki also got buff in the remake Nasu said that he killed Roa legs along with corridor
It's easy, isn't it? One of the reasons for this is that there will be more flashy developments later. Then, the horror of the "end when you meet" type that "Tsukihime" had in the first place-the scene that I dared not modify because I wanted to retain the element of so-called Japanese horror. However, there are a lot of hints ... It may be a while before we can understand the true meaning of that scene.
4Gamer:
The scene in that passageway was one of the scenes that I was thinking about while playing. By the way, Shiki was killing Lore's leg along with the corridor, but does that mean anything?
Mr. Nasu:
There is a proper meaning. Also, I think everyone has doubts about the fact that there is only one route for Arcueid ... either way.
In the old game he just killed the corridor and that crush Roa lower body but in the remake Shiki was able to kill his legs along with the Corridor that some next level stuff even Ryougi does not have a feat like that makes me wonder if he could learn to do that whenever he want or if that was a one time thing
@@ken123866 Shiki Ryougi never had the absurd feats Shiki Tohno had, first of all she’s not beating a Dead Apostle Ancestor.
@@TheMightOfGeburah Neither is Shiki Tohno he only beat Vlov with help from Arcueid and Ciel if it was a one on one fight Shiki stands no chance the only way I could maybe see him winning is if he could kill from range like with Roa but we don't know if that was a one time thing or if he could learn how to do that normally with training also even if he could do that he was only able to kill Roa legs not Roa whole body and he had to push his eyes to the limit in order to pull this off after pushing himself that hard he's going to have hard time moving after stabbing Roa death point he fell to the ground do to pushing himself so hard
Also Nasu as made it clear that Ryougi is a better user of the Mystic eyes of death perception than Tohno we have this statement
The protagonist of Kara no Kyoukai. Able to see lines of death, just like Tohno Shiki.
She wears a traditional kimono paired with a leather jacket and high-laced boots.
Though she always carries a knife, her true talent is with the katana.
The last name "Ryougi" and first name "Shiki" both have an appropriate meaning. Consequently as a user of the mystic eyes of death perception it can be said she is several ranks higher than Tohno Shiki, who is pretty much her polar opposite.
It said she several ranks higher than Tohno when it comes to being a user of death perception and her knife skills are compared to Shiki nanaya you know the one who could kill Tohno many times in kagetsu tohya she on the same level as him and Ryougi is at her strongest when fighting with a sword not a knife that just goes to show how strong Ryougi is
Now this statement was talking about 2000 tsukihime Shiki but I think it could apply to remake Shiki as well Ryougi does not have to strain herself when using the eyes the same way Tohno does and she done things like kill the future and other concepts that Tohno has not done
The only thing Remake Shiki has done with the eyes that I would put above Ryougi is being able to see Vlov past by focusing on his death point though we have to remember that Ryougi does not see death points only lines so this might be something only Tohno could do
and Killing Roa legs along with the corridor
But like I said we don't know if these are things he could do whenever he wants or if it was a one time thing
@@ken123866 I’m talking about the OG Shiki Tohno who has inhuman feats and didn’t require help from Arcueid to take down a much stronger Dead Apostle Ancestor (Nrvnqsr Chaos), the reason Remake Shiki Tohno ended up killing Roa’s legs was because Roa decided to try to attack Shiki Tohno instead of run away like in the OG, he had far better feats than Shiki Ryougi and it was confirmed in the OG that he can kill Substances and the meaning of things which out ranks killing Concepts, in the Remake Shiki Tohno can see the End Of Space, Roa literally felt threatened by Shiki Tohno’s Death Perception in both versions, Shiki Tohno killing points is death itself instead of just dicing a Life Span like Shiki Ryougi. Shiki Tohno is comparable to Roa lmao.
Nasu’s statement is outdated and contradicted. Points > Lines and Shiki Ryougi can’t see lines. He claimed the reason Shiki Ryougi was better in the technique was because of having a link to the Root ignoring that Shiki Tohno has the same blessing.
Yeah, just lines of death, she almost bursted her brain fighting Souren Araya trying to see a Scribble meanwhile Shiki Tohno described several Scribbles when killing Arcueid.
Comparing her to Shiki Nanaya is massive wank, Shiki Nanaya could move in instantaneous motions and could defeat Akiha in her vermillion state who was confirmed to be on par with a Rampaging Arcueid if not exceed that and has a impulse on par with her.
Melty Blood Act Cadenza PS2 Manual - Dictionary: Vermillion Akiha [Person's name], p.053
Akiha Vermillion [Person's name]
Akiha in a state close to Crimson Red Vermilion.
Through sheer willpower alone, she is able to control her rampage and avoid fully becoming a Crimson Red Vermilion.
Or rather, for Akiha this form is actually what she looks like when she's conserving her strength, and her normal form is the result of her actively using her power to suppress her oni blood. It's quite similar to the situation with Arcueid and her vampiric impulse.
Properly speaking, becoming a Crimson Red Vermilion means completely losing your ability to reason, but it seems even in this state Akiha still has some sanity left.
This, too, is probably by virtue of her high aptitude for it.
Collapse[v] Tsukihime Dokuhon PlusPeriod - TSUKIHIME Dictionary: Tohno Akiha [Person's name], p.185
Akiha Tohno [Person's name]
One of the heroines in Tsukihime. Shiki's younger sister, and the Tohno family's heir.
She has long black hair and a dignified posture, firm speech, and an unendearing personality. On top of that, her love of strict discipline can make her somewhat hard to get along with.
Perhaps it's because she doesn't think much of the way Shiki lived doing whatever he pleased for eight years, but she lashes out at him every chance she gets. Though she is basically straightforward and honest at her core, she is also unyielding and hates losing, so her true personality rarely gets a chance to shine.
She was one of the people involved in the accident eight years ago, after which her dormant Tohno blood was awakened. Though she would have been able to suppress it if she only had to worry about herself, she was carrying the burden of two people. As a result, she started being attacked by seizures nearly every night, and at Kohaku's suggestion began drinking blood to maintain her body.
…Of course, it was all just a scheme to push Akiha closer to her Tohno nature. Probably, even Akiha herself was aware of it on some level.
In one of the routes, she ended up inverting and demonstrating her power to its fullest extent. That dreadful form, with its fluttering vermilion hair, is probably capable of exceeding even a rampaging Arcueid.
^^^^^^ Sorry but Shiki Nanaya macks tf out of Shiki Ryougi, the comparison isn’t even close, Shiki Tohno actually beats Shiki Nanaya in Melty Blood Act Cadenza too so Rest In Peace.
Show me Shiki Ryougi killing points and using points as a nexus to destroy multiple things at once, please do that and I will concede that Shiki Ryougi is at least on par with Shiki Tohno in the art of direct death perception. Sion Eltnam already stated that Shiki Tohno can kill concepts beyond comprehension even if you denied him killing Substances of things.
If Shiki Ryougi doesn’t see Points then she’s inferior to Roa and Shiki Tohno as Points are Death Itself whereas Lines are simply where things break easily, this would be horrible against a Dead Apostle Ancestor and True Ancestors where They can’t break easily and you have to generate a death mark.
OG Shiki Tohno did the same thing again in Melty Blood Act 2 Manga against Giant Akiha so it’s not a DEATH exclusive thing.
In general, Black Keys are better for highly talented Executors, like Kirei and Ciel. I wonder how normal Executors fight.
That use something called an 'Ash lock'-
From Case Files materials-
Ash Lock [Other]
Standard equipment used by the Executors of the Holy Church.
Unlike the Black Keys that Executors are also known for, which take a considerable amount of training to use effectively, the Ash Lock is a powerful Conceptual Weapon that can demonstrate great ability with a minimum of training. Normally they are disguised as gloves or boots, but by removing their tag, they revert to their original form.
Used by a large number of Executors, they come in a variety of forms. While Ilumia elected for a hand-to-hand fighting type, versions using things like small blades or crossbows also exist.
@@thearrowblackcabary4016 Cool! Maybe Noel should try using one instead of an axe she can't use without magic.
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3:30 me in the math class