David Howell - "Magnus didn't talk to me for 7 years after this game"

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  • @vavachess
    @vavachess  3 года назад +13

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  • @AtulSharma-gy6xg
    @AtulSharma-gy6xg 3 года назад +443

    david howell is such a humble person .. always under playing when he himself a supergm

    • @cosmodo5758
      @cosmodo5758 3 года назад +12

      Hes not a supergm but I agree

    • @TheAmanov
      @TheAmanov 3 года назад +112

      @@cosmodo5758 he reached 2700+ elo, bu he didn't stay there too much. So he is part-time super gm.

    • @Mr35diamonds
      @Mr35diamonds 3 года назад +69

      @@cosmodo5758 super gm is 2700+, so actually he was.

    • @cosmodo5758
      @cosmodo5758 3 года назад +8

      @@Mr35diamonds I know, I already knew his peak was 2712 but it's around 2650 I think now, so that's why I said it

    • @jsuisdetrop
      @jsuisdetrop 3 года назад +49

      @@TheAmanov “part time super GM” 🤣🤣

  • @Mikesco10
    @Mikesco10 3 года назад +332

    bruh david really a humble ass individual i thought the guy was a low level gm... hes 2650 rated in classical and top 100 in the world

    • @Mr35diamonds
      @Mr35diamonds 3 года назад +27

      Seriously? He was so famous back then though, was top 2 in Britain at one point.

    • @dsrguru
      @dsrguru 3 года назад +74

      He was one game away from having Wang Hao's spot in the Candidates tournament

    • @Expizzapie1811
      @Expizzapie1811 3 года назад

      @@dsrguru yupp yupp

    • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910
      @ariavachier-lagravech.6910 2 года назад +32

      His rating used to be 2700+ as well. So he qualified for Super Gm

    • @guywhoneversleeps
      @guywhoneversleeps 2 года назад +3

      he also just killed at the grand swiss

  • @SamuelPearlman
    @SamuelPearlman 2 года назад +284

    Magnus will never, NEVER win the World Under-12 Championship. Mark my words!

    • @konstantinospalapanidis6414
      @konstantinospalapanidis6414 2 года назад +3

      True statement containing almost zero usable information.

    • @justamir5
      @justamir5 Год назад

      True 😂

    • @simoSLJ89
      @simoSLJ89 Месяц назад +1

      Like the joke Norm told to Blake Griffin: it's kinda a curse with rookie of the year, nobody has even repeated it :D

  • @TheLazyOne1995
    @TheLazyOne1995 3 года назад +280

    No Kaya, bronze is the biggest one.

    • @IRON--MAN
      @IRON--MAN 3 года назад +7

      In size.....

    • @Cruuzie
      @Cruuzie 3 года назад +18

      Such insightful commentary.

    • @x78340
      @x78340 2 года назад +6

      She's completely clueless...smh

  • @nicholascanionjr.7618
    @nicholascanionjr.7618 3 года назад +58

    Wow no comments. Tough crowd.

  • @fryl6082
    @fryl6082 3 года назад +34

    Basically what grischuck did lol. Nepo is such a lucky guy i guess

  • @sheetalswaroopburada4777
    @sheetalswaroopburada4777 3 года назад +18

    You are bringing nice content. Keep it up.

  • @teenspirit1
    @teenspirit1 Год назад +13

    It's funny how we talk about childhood traumas when we grow up

  • @user-hr8px7be7y
    @user-hr8px7be7y 3 года назад +73

    I guess magnus will remember this tournament when nepo took the golden one and will take his revenge from him . Can’t wait till November!

    • @niranjanrajesh1058
      @niranjanrajesh1058 2 года назад +12

      He already has had revenge indirectly be being far better than nepo and being the world champion

    • @cliffworsfold1994
      @cliffworsfold1994 2 года назад +16

      This aged well

    • @norukamo
      @norukamo 2 года назад +10

      Aged like fine wine

  • @arghyaS
    @arghyaS 3 года назад +3

    Good collection

  • @unfixablegop
    @unfixablegop Год назад +9

    I'm surprised to hear that Magnus would carry a grudge for that long.

    • @Jade-zm2tg
      @Jade-zm2tg 11 месяцев назад +14

      its probably a joke lol they probably become friends later just by coincidence

    • @theeboseissher
      @theeboseissher 5 месяцев назад

      lmaooo it was a joke

  • @nicbentulan
    @nicbentulan 2 года назад +23

    0:16 coincidentally magnus vs david (Wch U12 (2002), Heraklio GRE, rd 11, Nov-24) ended same colour bishop endgame with 4 pawns each: this is exactly the same kind of endgame in this nepo vs hikaru game!

    • @diskritis2076
      @diskritis2076 5 месяцев назад +4

      back in those days, your comments used to be normal. Nice

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@diskritis2076
      Lol thanks for being such a fan! Totally forgot about this comment. Merry Christmas happy new year and happy holidays!

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@diskritis2076
      3 questions
      Q1 - Why are chess players more dishonest than 9LX players? Eg there hasn't been a cheating scandal in a classical 9LX tournament.
      Q2 - Do you side with Wesley, Bobby, Hans (axis of evil) over Magnus, Garry, Hikaru (allies of evil) ?
      Q3 - Which of the ff facts do you deny?
      H1 - Hikaru cheated Levon.
      G1 - Garry cheated Judit.
      G2 - Garry cheated Vishy.
      G3 - Garry cheated Daniel Edelman.
      G4 - Garry cheated in 1999 MSN game.
      G5 - Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
      M1 - Magnus cheated Anish.
      M2 - Magnus cheated Sergey.
      M3 - Magnus cheated Alireza.
      M4 - Magnus cheated Wesley
      M5 - Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
      M6 - Magnus cheated Nepo.
      M7 - Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
      WBH1 - Bobby cheated no one.
      WBH2 - Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
      WBH3 - Wesley cheated no one.
      WBH4 - Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
      - cbarr81 asked:
      Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
      - Magnus admitted in an AMA:
      Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
      Source:
      p1w4Rr-jr
      ---
      Good guys vs Bad guys
      Note: they correspond.
      Eg
      Wesley Vs Magnus
      Bobby Vs Garry
      Hans Vs Hikaru
      Christopher Yoo Vs Andrew Tang
      Dina Vs Andrea
      etc
      - Axis of Evil = Good guys:
      wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vlad kramnik (still! See below), ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, andrii baryshpolets, vishy anand, jan-krzysztof duda, chesscube, Sergey's hypothetical pure 9LX parallel, christopher yoo, leela, ferdinand marcos sr, ben johnson of perpetual chess podcast(?), elon musk(?), donald trump, andrew tate
      - Allies of Evil = Bad guys:
      magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, arkady dvorkovich, peter heine nielsen, richárd rapport, PCA, FIDE, andrew tang, stockfish, prospero pichay jr, lex fridman(?), mark zuckerberg(?), george bush, piers morgan
      - axis of evil (female) = good girls:
      tingjie lei (or paikidze), janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, sara khadem (or carissa yip), robbi jade lew
      - allies of evil (female) = bad girls:
      wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, atousa pourkashiyan - nakamura, nemo zhou
      ---
      Note on axis Vs allies:
      They're not just good Vs bad. They're also axis of evil Vs allies of evil.
      They're both evil but in different ways. I'm saying that even though the axis of evil is evil, they're still more so the good guys compared to the allies of evil - whom I consider the bad guys.
      We may disagree on who the good Vs bad guys are, but I think we'll agree on axis Vs allies.
      Axis of Evil is like tax collector, the more conventional, obvious or well-known evil.
      Allies of Evil is like Pharisee, the unconventional or inconspicuous evil.
      More info:
      ARNSi0cPu60
      ---
      Note re Vlad:
      I view Vlad's accusation of Hans similar to Bobby's accusation of Anatoly Karpov & Wesley's wanting Sergey to not be in the 2022 candidates - it's a good guy fighting another good guy. The real bad guy in each respective case is Magnus, Garry & Magnus again. Tsk tsk. It's sad Vlad/Bobby/Wesley didn't realise that Magnus/Garry/Magnus is far more evil than Hans/Anatoly/Hans. Wait, I think Bobby did. Not sure. I think Bobby hated Garry more than Anatoly, but maybe not by much more.
      More info:
      eXHvXpOnAOE
      ---
      More notes:
      1
      Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann have NEVER done ANY of the ff evil things in chess as adults.
      Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura HAVE done EACH of the ff evil things in chess as adults.
      Evil:
      -Cheating
      -Baseless accusations
      -Discrimination (eg by cheating or baselessly accusing people mainly of a certain ethnicity or citizenship)
      -Treason
      Re treason:
      - Magnus betrayed fellow Scandinavian-descent Hans by baselessly accusing Hans
      - Hikaru betrayed fellow American Hans by baselessly accusing Hans.
      - Garry betrayed 2 fellow Jews Judit Polgar & Alexei Shirov by cheating them.
      2
      9LX players are more honest than chess players.
      - Wesley So, not Fabiano Caruana, is the 3rd highest peak fide classical rated honest player. Fabi is the highest.
      - Top 3 are Fabi, Levon, Wesley - all American. Also the 0th & 1st classical WFRCCs (resp Bobby & Wesley) are American.
      - Also, Hans & Wesley consider Bobby greatest while Magnus & Hikaru consider Garry greatest. What a coincidence! God bless America! SayNoTo2900!
      3
      1999Mar25 on Philippine radio:
      (Bobby Fischer would've been 2900.)
      My rating would be at least 2900, which is a lot higher than Kasparov’s. But in the end, that’s not
      important Pablo because the point is, I got my rating honestly. All my games are real. I’ve never pre-arranged a
      game. They have nothing on me. That’s why they hate me so damn much - because I’m clean. Kasparov got his fantastic rating by pre-arranging almost all of his games. (...) He’s a crook on a gigantic scale. You know, Eugene Torre could have the highest rating in the
      world too if he would pre-arrange all his games.
      - ( Actually, this further convinces me Bobby would like nephew Wesley & hate Magnus because Wesley = Eugene Torre & Magnus = Garry. As described in XNHWbgAsZnA or 2d427ys5FrY )
      4
      Wesley So on 2018Jun08:
      Thank you all for your encouragement and support. I am moving into a new area of my chess development working to win the game instead of taking a draw which I can do easily. With that attitude there will be bad days but that is life. Some players think exchanging a piece and then taking a prearranged draw on move 17 is okay but I don't want to be like them. I fought Fabi as hard as I could and I made a simple miscalculation. I am proud of the choice I made to fight. For everyone's benefit let me be clear that I have never taken a prearranged draw, I never will, and I have never played a bad game to help a friend. My bad games are a result of miscalculation under pressure. There are no free gifts in chess on this level (unless you are from certain countries that everyone knows about). You fight or you die. You have all been great in supporting me. Thank you. Moving on to the next fight.
      Source:
      p1w4Rr-Vd
      P.S.
      Wesley So on Lex Fridman
      xcdhgq
      P.P.S.
      Interview while imprisoned
      p1w4Rr-1Uk
      Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players?
      Uncle Bobby Fischer: My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random.
      - 2004Oct11, 15 years before nephew Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls.

  • @samkerr1826
    @samkerr1826 3 года назад +25

    Wow and gold is the biggest one.

  • @henryoliver2833
    @henryoliver2833 Месяц назад +1

    I miss this era of the CCT

  • @nowwhat9905
    @nowwhat9905 3 года назад +72

    so beating magnus didn't even cross his mind. the only way for nepo to win gold is if their game ended in a draw.

    • @buitragobb228
      @buitragobb228 3 года назад +15

      maybe if David would of beat Magnus that would put David in 1st place . . .?

    • @nowwhat9905
      @nowwhat9905 3 года назад +11

      @@buitragobb228 i don't think so. if magnus and david draw means magnus is silver, it means nepo is atleast 1.5points ahead of david and 1.0 point ahead of magnus. if magnus wins, it means there will be a tiebreak? i'm not sure. the draw means nepo wins gold automatically because nepo will still lead by 0.5point against magnus. but david beating magnus will make david win just silver and nepo will still win gold.

    • @alecnilson6530
      @alecnilson6530 3 года назад +19

      @@nowwhat9905 Actually, Nepo and Magnus tied for first, with Nepo taking the tiebreak (not sure what the tiebreak was). David was 0.5 pts behind them, so presumably if David had won, he would have taken the tiebreak over Nepo and won gold.

    • @nowwhat9905
      @nowwhat9905 3 года назад

      @@alecnilson6530 it doesn't make sense. if nepo and magnus are tied for 1st with one more game to play for magnus, then magnus wins gold after his game with david even with draw. his point will add 0.5 points. nepo should lead atleast 1.0 point against magnus before the game between magnus and david.

    • @nowwhat9905
      @nowwhat9905 3 года назад +1

      @@alecnilson6530 but you could also be right. i see it now. if magnus is 0.5points behind and david is 1.0 points behind before magnus and david game, it makes sense. david could have won if he edges out nepo in tiebreak. thanks.

  • @livinglogically8180
    @livinglogically8180 2 года назад +9

    gold medal was the biggest one?

  • @danielb4560
    @danielb4560 Год назад +5

    David is a cute adult too!

  • @alucard4974
    @alucard4974 Год назад +4

    but which medal was the biggest one?

  • @kevinwellwrought2024
    @kevinwellwrought2024 3 года назад +13

    Mangus was crushed by Howell!

  • @lukezzz1653
    @lukezzz1653 3 года назад +9

    david is still cute

  • @schizoframia4874
    @schizoframia4874 17 часов назад

    That’s what magnus does to other people. He is like the most obnoxious defender

  • @booboo3690
    @booboo3690 2 года назад

    Salt

  • @CalebHeins
    @CalebHeins 3 года назад +3

    Cute kids

  • @adomaskuzinas2137
    @adomaskuzinas2137 Месяц назад

    Ok cool, but can David ride a bicycle?

  • @IRON--MAN
    @IRON--MAN 3 года назад +10

    Omg! Was magnus soo sensitive?!?!?🙄🙄

    • @heavymetal1ization
      @heavymetal1ization 3 года назад +84

      He was 12

    • @yeagerist977
      @yeagerist977 3 года назад +66

      How about we talk about hikaru doing something way worse to David at the age of *27*

    • @3rdassassin50
      @3rdassassin50 3 года назад +1

      @@yeagerist977 wow what did he do ?

    • @Sam-py9qq
      @Sam-py9qq 3 года назад +1

      @@yeagerist977 what did he do?

    • @erlindaalba1682
      @erlindaalba1682 3 года назад +17

      @@Sam-py9qq Hikaru sweared at him at the Gibraltar chess tournament. Hikaru's father had to apologize to him. You can search the video which David tells the story in youtube.

  • @bernard9823
    @bernard9823 2 года назад

    Ooof