A good teaching and team building moment there. Profars admission of guilt is especially telling. It takes maturity to not need to point out that Kim may have been in the wrong spot to try to absolve yourself in the media. And, the many egos in that dugout stayed cool and settled.
That's the vibe you need in August and September. Know that "we're in the race, so don't f*ck up." That stuff could cost dearly in a short playoff series.
Profar is a league veteran. If manny Machado makes a mistake does anyone come talk to him about it? No. The talking is purposely done in front of cameras in my opinion. Take him to the tunnel
@@Whatuptho_8 You're right. But also, if they can learn and build from this, things like this will take a team far. Especially since they finally have a champion on the squad that is almost above reproach.
He's a lot older than Soto, been around for a long time, came out a year after Machado, they're acting as if he is a 19 or 20 year old kid, He was with Texas and used to do all that shit when he played for Hickory, Single A, and was showboating, hate that shit, nothing is worse than a guy hitting a homerun, admire ball til it drops in crowd, Especially when the team is losing in the 8th inning, Acuna, Tatis, Soto, a lot more could care less about the game, as long as I got mine, piss on the game, Acuna hit a bomb in Miami a few years ago, 8th inning, down 9 0, admired it, took forever to run bases, then he wants to get mad when they drill him the first pitch of next game, how bout when Acuna hit a 400 foot single? Admired it, off top of wall, Trout or Altuve would have been standing on 3rd base, He could care less, gots to gets mines, all they care about is them, Ozuna is, well, was, just as bad, How many chances has ATL gave him? Only shows that he doesn't give a shit about the team, Told the cop, I'm Ozuna for the Braves, yeah that's cool will you put your hands behind your back for me?
Profar seems like a good dude and has one of the best names in the game second to maybe Brusdar Graterol. Even going back to his two little league world series trips. When his Curacao team lost the championship game to Hawaii in 05 in a walkoff, Curacao shook hands with Hawaii, then bowed to each foul line. Always remembered how classy that team acted in that painful moment. Seems like he had good sportsmanship/ coaching from the jump
@@ProducedByAllah Pitcher or catcher is likely backing up that throw though. Plus, if he throws it to 3rd immediately, Rojas likely doesn't even attempt to take 3rd, so an overthrow doesn't let Rojas advance.
The hesitation is what killed him but even then he was trying to make sure everyone is in the right position. But shit happens and everyone makes mistakes especially young players. This happened to me my first highschool game they switched me from third base to play center. Except I under threw the ball
@@ProducedByAllah Cutoffs are crucial, but even at 41 I can still make that throw from the LF wall to 3B. Profar didn't need the cutoff man to gauge an accurate throw there. As a major leaguer, Profar gets it there in his sleep every day of the week. Just throw it.
I actually seriously respect Profar for this. When you're in the outfield, just launching it to third is usually not a good idea, because you could totally miss and award an easy base. No easy decision there. And he didn't throw his teammate under the bus either, even though it was him that screwed up.
Second, and the fact that Profar has decided to take all the smoke for this tells me a lot about his character. I am convinced some coach is showing the full vid of this to the manager and highlighting Kim's role in this as well.
Wtf are you talking about lol? Just launching it to 3rd isn't a good idea? He's playing LF!!! Lmao he better be able to make it to 3rd. Even if the SS wasn't in the right spot you still gotta get it in just wave your glove lol. His throw still made it to 3rd didn't it? You act like these guys aren't professionals. "You could totally miss and award a base" What?!?! Lol This isn't little league.
@@deucedeuce333 Yeah they weren’t going to hold him at first and there was really no play at second - if there was, then SS was going in the right direction. And if there was a play at third which there was, the SS wasn’t going to be part of the play - they don’t need him to be the relay on a short throw. I don’t get LF’s thinking.
@@porkchop3328 Yep… he should of but as i said profar has been good defensively this year and admitted that he was wrong and owned up to it lmao. Also not even a padres fan
great point. at this point we all know machado's emotions and reactions. profar coulda easily retaliated and blew up back at him or even throw Kim under the bus. great maturity from profar.
@@DarthVader-if9kr yeah i didn't mention machado as any negative toward him. i have no issue with how he reacted. same as last year when he ripped into tatis. it's his leadership style. could easily rub people the wrong way but profar stood his ground and owned up.
I think when you have a good team it's easier to take criticism. Or when it's a guy who's doing it right like Machado, a lot of what you see (at least what i've seen) is guys coming down on young guys for making mistake, and the vet is making as many if not more mistakes. It's one thing to speak to me from a position of experience if you're squared away yourself, don't correct me if you're fucking up just as bad, at least don't do it public.
Absolutely brilliant breakdown. I love that it wasn't what a lot of people assumed early and I love that we can see the entire growth moment in the dugout.
yes the extra footage showing more context are vital in the entire situation. hate how the rest of media knee jerked. just want to rile people up with headlines.
I admire Profar owning up to it in the dugout and on Twitter. While there might be a reason to justify the action, the mistake was made, and it cost his team. He eventually took full responsibility, instead of throwing Kim under the bus for cutting off to 2nd instead of 3rd.
Elliot Beach Except he has effectively thrown Kim under the bus by trying to show him up mid play and actually made them both look bad in the end. There is a time and place to make your point but Profar really fucked up on this occasion and unfortunately it is the sort of dumb mistake culture that plagues the Padres!
@@ECCENTRICERIC69 That is correct, as he did show up Kim during the play. I do admire him owning up after the fact, but the best apology is changed behavior, and it's a mistake Profar cannot make again.
I think the teammates should have also had a talk with the shortstop as well. I’m assuming Profar didn’t want to throw it without a cutoff man because he was afraid the ball might get thrown away. Still I think this was handled really well. I just think the SS also made a mental error too
No, you're just reading into what jomboy said. If Profar threw in right away, it's a double and that's it, there was no play, he didn't need a cut off, he just needed to throw the ball....all know this which is why they just talked to Profar, who is not the brightest tool
I’m not saying that Profar didn’t make a mistake. He definitely did and should have thrown it in. However the shortstop also made a mental error by covering the wrong base. Everyone should have been trying to keep it a double and not everyone did. More than one person can make a mistake on the same play. Profar was at the warning track. You usually want a cutoff man in that situation because the last thing you want is to throw to third and then the ball gets away. Still, he should have thrown the ball in
I miss the padres and petco but Im not a Manny Machado fan at all... but in that moment Id' like him as a teammate; him and Soto taking turns being team leaders!
I feel like Soto is the real hero in this spot, Machado and Musgrove were right but a little confrontational, where as Soto takes him under his wing and just talks with him calmly and after he does everything was good. Good job Soto!
Sometimes tough love is good. He's young, he has been on the time quite a while despite his age and it shows he's one of the guys. If he were not they wouldn't even bother because he would be gone and demoted by then. Good job on Soto but I think it's okay what Machado and Musgrove did. They are the elderly and Profar has to listen.
I hate the Padres as a dodgers fan, however I have only seen the first part of this from the media. Absolutely did not see manny Machado clear the air and try to make profar feel better. Just shows how much sports media loves to make drama where there isn't. Appreciate you doing the deep dive
The coverage of this was perfect. I had a different perspective when the news first leaked. It was a mistake, mistakes happen. It won't happen again. The team did a great job of showing composure and understanding. This is a good team that demands the best but also picks each other up when they're down.
That's what I love about baseball. Nothing beats being in that dugout, celebrating good times, commiserating bad times, giving advice and helping each other become better
I come back to this one a lot because its refreshing to see not just one guy but pretty much a whole team act incredibly mature and treat their teammates like humans rather than punching bags when they make a mistake. There's obviously a time and a place for everything but in such a hard nosed sport this is a breath of fresh air
Watching profar grow the last year or so has been nice to see. He's actually a good player still learning. I think he can be a really good player in years to come.
@@jleonard1300 he hasn’t played the outfield until recently, he’s been an infielder his entire career. Newish to the outfield but is low key playing at a gold glove level. I don’t think he’ll get it but I wouldn’t be surprised for him to be a dark horse winner for left field.
Jomboy you might actually get me watchin baseball on the regular because there’s so much I don’t know is actually going on in the game. Thank you for being the source of tons of info, but presenting it in a fun and casual way.
Yeah man I always kinda hated watching baseball but after watching jomboy videos I've really started watching this season. My favorite thing to do now is identify the pitch after it's thrown
This is channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels to watch. You do a great job at breaking down the small ball and putting a different perspective on the game that sometimes you just miss. Great job Jomboy
Jimmy is the GOAT for videos like this. It takes such an advanced understanding of fielding and such awareness to see it (often off camera). I got back into loving baseball because of videos like this.
Thank you for the breakdown. I though Profar was egging dude on "come on man go to third" kinda thing. I didn't notice Kim was not positioned correctly. I'm not as mad at Profar but still pissed guy just didn't yeet the ball to third 1 second earlier
Everybody did, I think it’s because the announcer created the narrative in our minds-with the video close in of Profar. The announcer’s interpretation looks correct until you see the other wider video angle which shows Kim (the SS) out of position. I’m glad it was merely a stupid play and not an egregiously boneheaded play. The Padres lost by three runs, so the mistake wasn’t crucial to the loss. Profar needs to play better but so does the whole team. I think they were playing better before the trades (and without Tatís, the PEDophile).
@@MarcosElMalo2 Completely agree. People heard the announcer saying that Profar was challenging him and everyone had that narrative. Nobody was paying attention to where the shortstop was at that point
this is a feel good baseball moment. everything about this is likeable and what you want to see more of in baseball. those are true brothers, being able to talk and be constructive and not take it personally.
Your analysis of situations like this is something that couldn't have been done in the days before RUclips and multi-camera HD feeds of every game, but you really bring something unique and valuable (not only because of the lip-reading LOL).
Loved the breakdown and it was great that the situation was cleared up as a team misunderstanding instead of a taunting play. Also, thanks for that ending...will give me nightmares for weeks.
So Manny is going to give him some tough love, after missing a grounder (during their series against my Dodgers 8/6/2022 it was a grounder from Turner..Mookie went from First to Third) and not hustling after it allowing MOokie to take another base and get into scoring position...that Manny is going to talk to his teammates about playing right?
yea cuz he admit it was his fault and that hustle has always been his greatest flaw- plus he is playing MVP level slugging this year. and if you watched the Padres you’d know he’s the team leader anyhow. he knows better than anyone
Man I miss being in the dugout obviously not on this level but in high school it was some of the funniest shit it’s a little different than this because they are 1 the best of the best but 2 on the con side we grew up together and faced people we grew up with on the other side
What's really comforting to me about this as a Padres fan, is how differently this went from the Tatis/Machado thing late in the season last year. Even though they're not playing up to their potential right now, it shows that the vibe in the clubhouse is definitely better than last season.
I saw this moment posted on another channel (not gonna name names) and it was just Machado and Musgrove gettin on Profar. What they didn’t show was everything after, Soto puttin his arm around him and Machado talking to him, the apology to Mugrove. Puts a whole new light on it and shows they are a much more connected team working together. Thanks Jomboy for showing all the important parts
In Kim's defense, I do think he thought the play was to 2nd, but he also mirrors Profar's reading of the ball, running towards center field expecting the ball to take that bounce. Instead, the ball just falls flat and in Profar's readjusting to get the ball, the play should've been relayed to 3rd. Also, even if Kim is playing 2nd, had Profar relayed the ball, Rojas wasn't going to run 3. Good teammates tho.
The only way that play is close is if Profar throws straight to second. I was always taught gaps and wall bangs are automatic doubles and to cut third. I think it was a mental mistake of Kim’s.
This wasn't a hustle issue. It was a judgment issue. You can't blame Profar for not throwing it in to an empty base and he probably didn't think Rojas would gamble on taking third. If he throws to the cutoff and Rojas sees there's nobody on third he's gonna get there before Musgrove does to cover.
You can blame Profar. He either throws quick to the cutoff, like most people are taught. even if it was in the wrong place. Or you make a hard throw to 3rd. On top of all of this if the 3rd baseman let the ball come to him to make the tag the runners out anyway.
Thanks for posting this. I had only listened to the broadcasters' version of it and it made me consider Profar a chump. Still a dumb play but at least he wasn't trying to "dare" Rojas to take third. This is a great video.
This made me smile 😁 last time when Machado got onto Tatìs about something last year it created a more escalated argument, nothing too crazy but it seemed a little heated so it’s awesome to see them working together through their mistakes now.l
No, it was nothing that heated. Tatis wasn’t happy with a call and he was chirping so Machado had told him to stop because they needed him and that every game mattered. It wasn’t really an argument, just some tough love
I’ve been a big fan of him all season. Great defensively, got some good hitting, but always a great attitude. This video made me like him a whole lot more- and I hope we (San Diego) keep him around.
If Kim was in the wrong, why didn't a single teammate come up and correct it like they did with Profar. He definitely got caught taunting him. They/you are playing it off but I don't believe it for a second
Because Jomboy has this completely wrong and i'm flat out amazed at the number of people who are buying this bullshit lmao. Kim is nowhere near in the wrong and Jomboy has convinced these dopes he's in the "wrong spot". There is no wrong spot, Profar has to field the ball, turn and locate the cutoff and get the ball in. No, there wasn't much of a chance at 2nd, but because Profar took his sweet ass time throwing it in, he created the opportunity for Rojas to get the 3rd all by himself....a Triple was never in question until Profar went mental. I'm not convinced Profar wasn't challenging Rojas either
Every video that beat out Jomboy was saying that Profar was taunting Miguel Rojas and challenged him to run. Those video uploaded way before Jomboy was so dead wrong. Glad to see a full indepth analysis from Jomboy about this thing because the videos all made it out to make Profar into jerk for arguing back against irate Manny Machado. Now we know all those videos uploaded last night after the play was seriously flawed. Thanks Jomboy for pointing the whole situation correctly.
Left fielder myself...playing a ball hit off the wall, and with a speedy runner like Rojas, you immediately turn and look for third. If the cutoff man isn't there, you air it out to 3rd base. You don't have time to orchestrate the infielders. Profar turned a double into a triple. Great base running though!!!
I'd hardly say Profar is a young guy--he's been in the league almost 10 years lol. But huge of him to take blame 100% even though he had the right idea as soon as he fielded the ball off the wall
There's a bit on the Compound this week where Zack and Ian talk about how hard it is knowing where to throw and when to go for the out. Feels relevant here.
In this situation, it is irrelevant as to where the shortstop is positioned. If Profar did indeed decide to throw to second to try to get the runner, he wouldnt use a cut off. The SS was out of position.
Love Profar, and especially love the leaders leading, obviously the situation isn’t fun, especially cuz it would’ve been a very different game if that run didn’t score, but overall a good teaching/learning moment
i respect the in depth take on this compared to the knee jerk reaction the rest of media had on it blowing it way out of proportion and calling machado a bad leader. his leadership style is just not what is commonly expected. tough love like you said and i really like how you included the footage of them laughing it off after. shows the respect they have for each other.
Because with Hosmer gone, he’s the only guy on the team with an actual ring so he knows what it’s like to be on a winning team and what it took to take down juggernauts including both the 19 dodgers and 19 Astros
What a great breakdown, I don't think I've ever seen someone capture what it's like to truly be part of a competitive team and break it down like that. If anyone ever wonders why kids should do teamsports, here you go. Guy makes a mistake, probably puts some of the blame on the out of position teammate... Gets humbled by his teammates. Accepts all the blame, won't make the mistake again, grew as a player and probably as a person. And then everyone is cool and friendly again.
Fans endure a lot. But we always stick with it. What actually only a few hair roots can set off for a huge avalanche. Astonishing.... Plus your season in general. Slogan: persevere!
Ok.... Just not fun to be a Blue Jay. Kicked out of the nest by a little bird... and such. I suppress the last few days. We should ask the Yankees too. (better not Boone) Support group required!
The thing was that he was already planning to throw it to the cutoff man when the ball went passed him. He’s looking for the cutoff as soon as he turns around. Once he saw the cutoff behind the runner, if he threw it, the runner would’ve advanced anyway. He could’ve still just threw it in the direction of third base and that would halted the runner but I see where the mistake came from.
Is that the same Profar that used to be a MIF? How new is he to the outfield? On a side note, Musgrove must be the most jacked pitcher to only throw low 90s
Does anyone recall an outfielder overtly taunting or daring a runner in a manner similar? There's plenty of subtle gamesmanship stuff that goes on for sure... I don't believe he was challenging the runner here.
Same play happened to me last night, but in RF lol. Single close to the line, I pick the ball up and when I looked up there was no cutoff man, nobody waving their arms. The 1st baseman was just standing on his base, I ended up throwing to him after hesitating and a run scored on that play... I thought it was the 1st baseman's job to catch a relay from RF on a ball hit behind him with a play at the plate developping. Apparently the cutoff is always the 2nd baseman
@@therealjollification I knew it! I talked to him, my coach and my teammate in left field and they were all saying "the 1st baseman is never a cutoff man". Thanks man
Don't think the SS did anything wrong here. Depending on how the ball bounces off the wall, there might have been a play at 2nd. He has to commit at some point.
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A good teaching and team building moment there. Profars admission of guilt is especially telling. It takes maturity to not need to point out that Kim may have been in the wrong spot to try to absolve yourself in the media. And, the many egos in that dugout stayed cool and settled.
That's the vibe you need in August and September. Know that "we're in the race, so don't f*ck up." That stuff could cost dearly in a short playoff series.
Profar is a league veteran. If manny Machado makes a mistake does anyone come talk to him about it? No. The talking is purposely done in front of cameras in my opinion. Take him to the tunnel
@@lowkeyvalid7130 might be best to not confront Machado lol. Joking aside, I agree with you
This is why this squad ain't doing squat.
@@Whatuptho_8 You're right. But also, if they can learn and build from this, things like this will take a team far. Especially since they finally have a champion on the squad that is almost above reproach.
Profar is having a very good season, both offensively and defensively. Been really good in the clutch.
His next RBI should not count. Because he gift-wrapped a run for the other team here.
@@porkchop3328 mate Profar has been a beast this year, he don’t owe us anything, literally saved the game a few days back when Hader nearly blew it
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@@porkchop3328 fair weather fans be like...
He's a lot older than Soto, been around for a long time, came out a year after Machado, they're acting as if he is a 19 or 20 year old kid, He was with Texas and used to do all that shit when he played for Hickory, Single A, and was showboating, hate that shit, nothing is worse than a guy hitting a homerun, admire ball til it drops in crowd, Especially when the team is losing in the 8th inning, Acuna, Tatis, Soto, a lot more could care less about the game, as long as I got mine, piss on the game, Acuna hit a bomb in Miami a few years ago, 8th inning, down 9 0, admired it, took forever to run bases, then he wants to get mad when they drill him the first pitch of next game, how bout when Acuna hit a 400 foot single? Admired it, off top of wall, Trout or Altuve would have been standing on 3rd base, He could care less, gots to gets mines, all they care about is them, Ozuna is, well, was, just as bad, How many chances has ATL gave him? Only shows that he doesn't give a shit about the team, Told the cop, I'm Ozuna for the Braves, yeah that's cool will you put your hands behind your back for me?
Had no idea he was motioning to his teammate rather than taunting the opponent to try and challenge him. Thanks jomboy.
He wasnt you can tell by how they handled profar in the dugout. Jomboy read into something that wasnt there
@@camreese or maybe the dugout didn't realize it in the heat of the moment
he came out and said it was that... and its also clearly that
@@JomboyMedia is this the real jomboy?
@@mikeh3240 yes
Profar seems like a good dude and has one of the best names in the game second to maybe Brusdar Graterol. Even going back to his two little league world series trips. When his Curacao team lost the championship game to Hawaii in 05 in a walkoff, Curacao shook hands with Hawaii, then bowed to each foul line. Always remembered how classy that team acted in that painful moment. Seems like he had good sportsmanship/ coaching from the jump
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The hesitation was definitely the issue here. Even without a cutoff, he should've thrown in. He has the arm for it.
Nah cutoffs are crucial, he could've overthrown it and the worst could've happened
@@ProducedByAllah like what? A run scored? That happened.
@@ProducedByAllah Pitcher or catcher is likely backing up that throw though. Plus, if he throws it to 3rd immediately, Rojas likely doesn't even attempt to take 3rd, so an overthrow doesn't let Rojas advance.
The hesitation is what killed him but even then he was trying to make sure everyone is in the right position. But shit happens and everyone makes mistakes especially young players. This happened to me my first highschool game they switched me from third base to play center. Except I under threw the ball
@@ProducedByAllah Cutoffs are crucial, but even at 41 I can still make that throw from the LF wall to 3B. Profar didn't need the cutoff man to gauge an accurate throw there. As a major leaguer, Profar gets it there in his sleep every day of the week. Just throw it.
I actually seriously respect Profar for this. When you're in the outfield, just launching it to third is usually not a good idea, because you could totally miss and award an easy base. No easy decision there. And he didn't throw his teammate under the bus either, even though it was him that screwed up.
Second, and the fact that Profar has decided to take all the smoke for this tells me a lot about his character. I am convinced some coach is showing the full vid of this to the manager and highlighting Kim's role in this as well.
Well, it’s both people’s fault here but yeah, I have some serious respect for him too.
Both faults but like there saying just got to throw it in you want that ball I as fast as you can even if cut off man isn't in position
Wtf are you talking about lol? Just launching it to 3rd isn't a good idea? He's playing LF!!! Lmao he better be able to make it to 3rd. Even if the SS wasn't in the right spot you still gotta get it in just wave your glove lol. His throw still made it to 3rd didn't it? You act like these guys aren't professionals. "You could totally miss and award a base" What?!?! Lol This isn't little league.
@@deucedeuce333 Yeah they weren’t going to hold him at first and there was really no play at second - if there was, then SS was going in the right direction. And if there was a play at third which there was, the SS wasn’t going to be part of the play - they don’t need him to be the relay on a short throw. I don’t get LF’s thinking.
Profar has been doing well this season defensively and Kim is top 10 in WAR - shit happens lol
Even if Kim stripped down to his jock strap and started moonwalking, Profar should have thrown the ball to third.
@@porkchop3328 Yep… he should of but as i said profar has been good defensively this year and admitted that he was wrong and owned up to it lmao. Also not even a padres fan
@@porkchop3328 this made me lol
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@@jeremymccommons7741 i don’t watch them. lol
It’s so refreshing seeing a professional player actually take advice instead of throwing a tantrum
great point. at this point we all know machado's emotions and reactions. profar coulda easily retaliated and blew up back at him or even throw Kim under the bus. great maturity from profar.
@@vangeles11 I think Machado deserves some credit though. He really has matured a lot
@@DarthVader-if9kr yeah i didn't mention machado as any negative toward him. i have no issue with how he reacted. same as last year when he ripped into tatis. it's his leadership style. could easily rub people the wrong way but profar stood his ground and owned up.
I think when you have a good team it's easier to take criticism. Or when it's a guy who's doing it right like Machado, a lot of what you see (at least what i've seen) is guys coming down on young guys for making mistake, and the vet is making as many if not more mistakes. It's one thing to speak to me from a position of experience if you're squared away yourself, don't correct me if you're fucking up just as bad, at least don't do it public.
Love how Manny tells him shit, when Manny should not talk when it comes down to throwing a Trantrum , and being Lazy. Manny should not be talking.
Absolutely brilliant breakdown. I love that it wasn't what a lot of people assumed early and I love that we can see the entire growth moment in the dugout.
yes the extra footage showing more context are vital in the entire situation. hate how the rest of media knee jerked. just want to rile people up with headlines.
I admire Profar owning up to it in the dugout and on Twitter. While there might be a reason to justify the action, the mistake was made, and it cost his team. He eventually took full responsibility, instead of throwing Kim under the bus for cutting off to 2nd instead of 3rd.
Marine. Solid. Took it like a champ.
Friars got enough going on with Tatis going full Brosciencelife to fight ringworm.
Elliot Beach
Except he has effectively thrown Kim under the bus by trying to show him up mid play and actually made them both look bad in the end.
There is a time and place to make your point but Profar really fucked up on this occasion and unfortunately it is the sort of dumb mistake culture that plagues the Padres!
@@ECCENTRICERIC69 That is correct, as he did show up Kim during the play. I do admire him owning up after the fact, but the best apology is changed behavior, and it's a mistake Profar cannot make again.
I think the teammates should have also had a talk with the shortstop as well. I’m assuming Profar didn’t want to throw it without a cutoff man because he was afraid the ball might get thrown away.
Still I think this was handled really well. I just think the SS also made a mental error too
If I had to guess, I’d say they likely talked with Kim, probably in the locker room, after the game.
with cutoff man or not, just throw the ball. The runner wasn't expect getting on 3rd until he saw the hesitation. The SS did alright.
No, you're just reading into what jomboy said. If Profar threw in right away, it's a double and that's it, there was no play, he didn't need a cut off, he just needed to throw the ball....all know this which is why they just talked to Profar, who is not the brightest tool
I’m not saying that Profar didn’t make a mistake. He definitely did and should have thrown it in. However the shortstop also made a mental error by covering the wrong base. Everyone should have been trying to keep it a double and not everyone did.
More than one person can make a mistake on the same play. Profar was at the warning track. You usually want a cutoff man in that situation because the last thing you want is to throw to third and then the ball gets away. Still, he should have thrown the ball in
@@TheTexas1994 Yep, great analysis. You obviously played baseball at some point.
Man, these breakdowns are the Jomboy jems! Love being able to see this side of the game as a fan.
Gomboy Gems*
@@chaoticignorant483 Maybe he meant jem, as in the Urban Dictionary definition. 🤔
Yes!
It helped that the Padres started actually making moves in 19 but jomboy has sucked me back into baseball like I'm a kid again lol.
Good on Soto, that's what a real leader looks like.
Yessir Soto is so amazing for his young age
I miss the padres and petco but Im not a Manny Machado fan at all... but in that moment Id' like him as a teammate; him and Soto taking turns being team leaders!
A .450 OBP helps
@@619julian6 he sucks. He’s terrible. Overrated!
@@jpconnolly831 agreed! like parents, one is tough the other is more gentle lol a good balance
I feel like Soto is the real hero in this spot, Machado and Musgrove were right but a little confrontational, where as Soto takes him under his wing and just talks with him calmly and after he does everything was good. Good job Soto!
Amen. If you’re gonna confront a teammate do it in the tunnel. Now we got everyone and their mom making something out of what’s not there.
Sometimes tough love is good. He's young, he has been on the time quite a while despite his age and it shows he's one of the guys. If he were not they wouldn't even bother because he would be gone and demoted by then. Good job on Soto but I think it's okay what Machado and Musgrove did. They are the elderly and Profar has to listen.
Nah screw that. You need someone like machado to be confrontational. These players get paid millions. Everyone has gotten soft these days.
@@deir712 he’s literally almost 30
@@juanortiz453 yup, Machado is the Captain.
I hate the Padres as a dodgers fan, however I have only seen the first part of this from the media. Absolutely did not see manny Machado clear the air and try to make profar feel better. Just shows how much sports media loves to make drama where there isn't. Appreciate you doing the deep dive
That's why the Dodgers are so good because they have been working together for years
Profar is for sure my favorite Padres player, and I’m a Dodger
He’s just so humble, how can you dislike this guy?
😂😂😂
As long as 3b was covering the bag, throw it in. Heck even if no ones there get the ball in!
Lots of respect for how Profar handled the situation. Really awesome to see and makes me like him even more.
Watching a team work together holding each other accountable without being a$$holes to each is refreshing.
They were being assholes
The coverage of this was perfect. I had a different perspective when the news first leaked. It was a mistake, mistakes happen. It won't happen again. The team did a great job of showing composure and understanding. This is a good team that demands the best but also picks each other up when they're down.
leaked? lol
That's what I love about baseball. Nothing beats being in that dugout, celebrating good times, commiserating bad times, giving advice and helping each other become better
I come back to this one a lot because its refreshing to see not just one guy but pretty much a whole team act incredibly mature and treat their teammates like humans rather than punching bags when they make a mistake. There's obviously a time and a place for everything but in such a hard nosed sport this is a breath of fresh air
So used to seeing Profar smiling so I’m glad Manny came over to talk to him again.
Jomboy, you are THE BEST sports commentary happening. i appreciate so much the things about sport that you care about. Many thanks.
Watching profar grow the last year or so has been nice to see. He's actually a good player still learning. I think he can be a really good player in years to come.
Bro he is literally 30 years old. He’s a veteran lmao
@@jleonard1300 Damn is really that old now? It seems like just a year or so ago he was the top talk.
@@mychaelmitchell4632 He was the top prospect in like 2012/13
@@nicholasbrown4109 that's crazy I guess not hearing much until last few year's I just assumed it was more recent lol.
@@jleonard1300 he hasn’t played the outfield until recently, he’s been an infielder his entire career. Newish to the outfield but is low key playing at a gold glove level. I don’t think he’ll get it but I wouldn’t be surprised for him to be a dark horse winner for left field.
This is what I miss most about team sports. Helping teammates improve and building each other up after mistakes. This is how you build a strong team.
As an a's fan, I miss profar. He is great and has tons of talent.
As a Ranger’s fan, I wish we didn’t give up on him so fast after all the injuries he had.
Jomboy you might actually get me watchin baseball on the regular because there’s so much I don’t know is actually going on in the game. Thank you for being the source of tons of info, but presenting it in a fun and casual way.
Yeah man I always kinda hated watching baseball but after watching jomboy videos I've really started watching this season. My favorite thing to do now is identify the pitch after it's thrown
Manny booted a ball and let the left fielder get the ball when they played the Dodgers last week. He's the last person to give advice.
Exactly
Thanks as always for the breakdowns. Always love the parts of baseball that you choose to breakdown. Keep’em coming my man!
I never thought of that, love the breakdowns man
This is channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels to watch. You do a great job at breaking down the small ball and putting a different perspective on the game that sometimes you just miss. Great job Jomboy
Profar is the man, helped lead the A’s to the playoffs a few years back
Jimmy is the GOAT for videos like this. It takes such an advanced understanding of fielding and such awareness to see it (often off camera). I got back into loving baseball because of videos like this.
Thank you for the breakdown. I though Profar was egging dude on "come on man go to third" kinda thing. I didn't notice Kim was not positioned correctly. I'm not as mad at Profar but still pissed guy just didn't yeet the ball to third 1 second earlier
Everybody did, I think it’s because the announcer created the narrative in our minds-with the video close in of Profar. The announcer’s interpretation looks correct until you see the other wider video angle which shows Kim (the SS) out of position.
I’m glad it was merely a stupid play and not an egregiously boneheaded play. The Padres lost by three runs, so the mistake wasn’t crucial to the loss. Profar needs to play better but so does the whole team. I think they were playing better before the trades (and without Tatís, the PEDophile).
@@MarcosElMalo2 Completely agree. People heard the announcer saying that Profar was challenging him and everyone had that narrative. Nobody was paying attention to where the shortstop was at that point
My first big league game Profar walked it off over right field in Arlington! Love this guy!
Respect to Profar for recognizing he made a mistake and taking responsibility. Good teammate right there
Be nice if the short stop would’ve stepped up and owned his mistake too. He’s the reason for the confusion in the first place.
@@fivebooks8498 its like if a WR volleyballs a pass into a pick and blames the QB.
Wtf is he gonna do, argue with the leaders of the team when he knows he made a mistake ? Wtf..?
Thanks for your input Trevor the whole world is doing better today now
@@jonathongutierrez9889 bruh you can’t talk when your first name is spelled like that lmaooo
this is a feel good baseball moment. everything about this is likeable and what you want to see more of in baseball. those are true brothers, being able to talk and be constructive and not take it personally.
Ahhh, a hungover morning with a good breakdown before I start the day. Thanks Jomboy.
Wow u tuff Justin
Hungover on a Wednesday? Rough week already?
$2 Tuesday brews last night?
Water and V8 or have a bloody mary will cure that right away. My kid starts kinder today so why not on a Tuesday night ha ha.
It’s your breakfast breakdown. Bacon, eggs, and Jomboy.
we love profar in san diego. this team has a special bond this year and we're here for it.
Where is the Alex Cora ejection breakdown where he barely said anything
How many games are played every day? He'll get to it.
Waiting on that myself.
@@higgy82 Ik but this happened a few days ago the Cora ejection happened a few weeks ago
Your analysis of situations like this is something that couldn't have been done in the days before RUclips and multi-camera HD feeds of every game, but you really bring something unique and valuable (not only because of the lip-reading LOL).
Loved the breakdown and it was great that the situation was cleared up as a team misunderstanding instead of a taunting play. Also, thanks for that ending...will give me nightmares for weeks.
Players knew exactly what Profar was doing, as soon as he did it. But yeah, the breakdown is great for the fans of the game...
Manny "Not Johnny Hustle" Machado giving anyone a lecture is always hilarious.
So Manny is going to give him some tough love, after missing a grounder (during their series against my Dodgers 8/6/2022 it was a grounder from Turner..Mookie went from First to Third) and not hustling after it allowing MOokie to take another base and get into scoring position...that Manny is going to talk to his teammates about playing right?
Talk To Em!
yea cuz he admit it was his fault and that hustle has always been his greatest flaw- plus he is playing MVP level slugging this year. and if you watched the Padres you’d know he’s the team leader anyhow. he knows better than anyone
Man I miss being in the dugout obviously not on this level but in high school it was some of the funniest shit it’s a little different than this because they are 1 the best of the best but 2 on the con side we grew up together and faced people we grew up with on the other side
I'm proud of the Padres for handling that well. They're going through some adversity, and glad to see them growing and bonding together.
What's really comforting to me about this as a Padres fan, is how differently this went from the Tatis/Machado thing late in the season last year. Even though they're not playing up to their potential right now, it shows that the vibe in the clubhouse is definitely better than last season.
Nice to see The Big Chill is still on an MLB roster. Man I had high hopes for him.
Look at Soto so inspirational man
Your breakdowns are needed saw this earlier and thought he was telling him to try and run
You are really good at breaking down and finding these gems.
Interesting that Profar has played almost 200 more games than Soto and is several years older, yet Soto is the one taking Profar under his wing
Profar is also mostly an IF at 2b until 2021 while Soto is an all-star OF since the beginning so it does make sense I think
@@TOMPADDLE Good point. However, I wouldn't say Soto is an all star outfielder due to his defense
@@jtcox312 His defense has improved though.
profar is a good dude. remember him from his time in Oakland. keeps his composure
After seeing the play this makes way more sense. I thought we was challenging Rojas and it didn’t go well😂
I saw this moment posted on another channel (not gonna name names) and it was just Machado and Musgrove gettin on Profar. What they didn’t show was everything after, Soto puttin his arm around him and Machado talking to him, the apology to Mugrove. Puts a whole new light on it and shows they are a much more connected team working together. Thanks Jomboy for showing all the important parts
In Kim's defense, I do think he thought the play was to 2nd, but he also mirrors Profar's reading of the ball, running towards center field expecting the ball to take that bounce. Instead, the ball just falls flat and in Profar's readjusting to get the ball, the play should've been relayed to 3rd. Also, even if Kim is playing 2nd, had Profar relayed the ball, Rojas wasn't going to run 3. Good teammates tho.
I was pretty much thinning the same thing, if the ball had bounced straight up to Profar it might have been close at second
@Zatoiichii agreed, Kim effed up, again.
@@abe1142 Great minds (and names) think alike
@Zatoiichii No, I am analyzing the play instead of being sheep and going with what Jomboy thought of it.
The only way that play is close is if Profar throws straight to second. I was always taught gaps and wall bangs are automatic doubles and to cut third. I think it was a mental mistake of Kim’s.
Good for him to take the feedback and learn from it, and good on the team for communicating it the right way. That's how you work as a team, boys!
This wasn't a hustle issue. It was a judgment issue. You can't blame Profar for not throwing it in to an empty base and he probably didn't think Rojas would gamble on taking third. If he throws to the cutoff and Rojas sees there's nobody on third he's gonna get there before Musgrove does to cover.
Machado was on third.
You can blame Profar. He either throws quick to the cutoff, like most people are taught. even if it was in the wrong place. Or you make a hard throw to 3rd. On top of all of this if the 3rd baseman let the ball come to him to make the tag the runners out anyway.
Thanks for posting this. I had only listened to the broadcasters' version of it and it made me consider Profar a chump. Still a dumb play but at least he wasn't trying to "dare" Rojas to take third. This is a great video.
I'm glad Soto spoke to him the right way and more importantly showed Machado how a real leader handles situations!
This made me smile 😁 last time when Machado got onto Tatìs about something last year it created a more escalated argument, nothing too crazy but it seemed a little heated so it’s awesome to see them working together through their mistakes now.l
No, it was nothing that heated. Tatis wasn’t happy with a call and he was chirping so Machado had told him to stop because they needed him and that every game mattered. It wasn’t really an argument, just some tough love
Machado really gonna talk after he screws up a ground ball and lets 2 guys get an extra base. (Not same game) but still.
I was waiting for this breakdown! Thanks JomBoy!
Jomboy the King of Good Takes. I also thought he was challenging the runner at first, good explanation.
I’ve been a big fan of him all season. Great defensively, got some good hitting, but always a great attitude. This video made me like him a whole lot more- and I hope we (San Diego) keep him around.
If Kim was in the wrong, why didn't a single teammate come up and correct it like they did with Profar. He definitely got caught taunting him. They/you are playing it off but I don't believe it for a second
Because Jomboy has this completely wrong and i'm flat out amazed at the number of people who are buying this bullshit lmao. Kim is nowhere near in the wrong and Jomboy has convinced these dopes he's in the "wrong spot". There is no wrong spot, Profar has to field the ball, turn and locate the cutoff and get the ball in. No, there wasn't much of a chance at 2nd, but because Profar took his sweet ass time throwing it in, he created the opportunity for Rojas to get the 3rd all by himself....a Triple was never in question until Profar went mental. I'm not convinced Profar wasn't challenging Rojas either
Great breakdown as always. Also, love to see my boy @Sammylev getting some love
Soto has been on the team for 5 minutes and is already a better leader than Machado.
Found the soyboi
Yeah, cause he led the Nationals so well....
@@deusvult6920 holding Machado’s nuts is a huge L for you. Sad!
@@jakeboss1655 ⬅️Duush
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machado is the leader of that team not soto
Every video that beat out Jomboy was saying that Profar was taunting Miguel Rojas and challenged him to run. Those video uploaded way before Jomboy was so dead wrong. Glad to see a full indepth analysis from Jomboy about this thing because the videos all made it out to make Profar into jerk for arguing back against irate Manny Machado. Now we know all those videos uploaded last night after the play was seriously flawed. Thanks Jomboy for pointing the whole situation correctly.
Left fielder myself...playing a ball hit off the wall, and with a speedy runner like Rojas, you immediately turn and look for third. If the cutoff man isn't there, you air it out to 3rd base. You don't have time to orchestrate the infielders. Profar turned a double into a triple. Great base running though!!!
Good leadership for all parties awesome also awesome for profar to listen have humility we’re all in this together
I'd hardly say Profar is a young guy--he's been in the league almost 10 years lol. But huge of him to take blame 100% even though he had the right idea as soon as he fielded the ball off the wall
Just commented something similar. Its pretty belittling to say the 23 yo soto took him under his wing.
@@economicsjingle Yeah
Thought he was challenging the runner too! Thanks for clearing that up 👍🏽
There's a bit on the Compound this week where Zack and Ian talk about how hard it is knowing where to throw and when to go for the out. Feels relevant here.
In this situation, it is irrelevant as to where the shortstop is positioned. If Profar did indeed decide to throw to second to try to get the runner, he wouldnt use a cut off. The SS was out of position.
Great breakdown! These moments between teammates are what make great teams.
With the play like that there's no time for mental errors and mental mistake especially when you are in the Wild Card hunt.
Love Profar, and especially love the leaders leading, obviously the situation isn’t fun, especially cuz it would’ve been a very different game if that run didn’t score, but overall a good teaching/learning moment
I wonder if there is the same response to Profar as there is to Tatis with his anabolic ring worm medicine?
i respect the in depth take on this compared to the knee jerk reaction the rest of media had on it blowing it way out of proportion and calling machado a bad leader. his leadership style is just not what is commonly expected. tough love like you said and i really like how you included the footage of them laughing it off after. shows the respect they have for each other.
how is soto so mature despite being 10 years old
Because with Hosmer gone, he’s the only guy on the team with an actual ring so he knows what it’s like to be on a winning team and what it took to take down juggernauts including both the 19 dodgers and 19 Astros
The way jomboy explained this makes so much sense. I really appreciate all the insights. Excellent work
What a great breakdown, I don't think I've ever seen someone capture what it's like to truly be part of a competitive team and break it down like that. If anyone ever wonders why kids should do teamsports, here you go. Guy makes a mistake, probably puts some of the blame on the out of position teammate... Gets humbled by his teammates. Accepts all the blame, won't make the mistake again, grew as a player and probably as a person. And then everyone is cool and friendly again.
bro...i fucking know manny machado of all people is not bitching at profar for not hustling LMAO
With that statement from Jurickson, he put the Pro in Profar👏🏻
Nothing but pain being a padres fan 😔
lol
Fans endure a lot. But we always stick with it. What actually only a few hair roots can set off for a huge avalanche. Astonishing.... Plus your season in general. Slogan: persevere!
Nothing but joy being a dodgers fan.
Ok.... Just not fun to be a Blue Jay. Kicked out of the nest by a little bird... and such. I suppress the last few days. We should ask the Yankees too. (better not Boone) Support group required!
Every fan of a team has to endure pain
Just earned a fan, Mr. Profar (tip of hat)
Padres are doing great stuff as a team right now. Looks much more like a team than last year
Great stuff is going 5 and 9 after the trade?
* Bob Melvin
Until they face the Dodgers.
@@snakeeyes9246 , no need the Marlins are about to sweep them.
Lol pads fans couldn't feel more different
The thing was that he was already planning to throw it to the cutoff man when the ball went passed him. He’s looking for the cutoff as soon as he turns around. Once he saw the cutoff behind the runner, if he threw it, the runner would’ve advanced anyway. He could’ve still just threw it in the direction of third base and that would halted the runner but I see where the mistake came from.
Is that the same Profar that used to be a MIF? How new is he to the outfield?
On a side note, Musgrove must be the most jacked pitcher to only throw low 90s
Great review! Thank you for emphasizing the bit about the cutoff man cuz the announcers have created way more chatter than necessary on this one.
Does anyone recall an outfielder overtly taunting or daring a runner in a manner similar? There's plenty of subtle gamesmanship stuff that goes on for sure... I don't believe he was challenging the runner here.
That's what happens when people have true respect for one another. No egos, just listening. Nice thing to see!
Machado is last to talk about throwing in and hustling 😂
you make this comment back in 2016? lol
I love this story. Great growth here.
“Young guy learning the outfield”
Profar, who made his mlb debut in 2012
Same play happened to me last night, but in RF lol. Single close to the line, I pick the ball up and when I looked up there was no cutoff man, nobody waving their arms. The 1st baseman was just standing on his base, I ended up throwing to him after hesitating and a run scored on that play...
I thought it was the 1st baseman's job to catch a relay from RF on a ball hit behind him with a play at the plate developping. Apparently the cutoff is always the 2nd baseman
That is the 1st baseman's cutoff, the only reason 2nd base might be cutoff here is if the runner is going to score no matter what.
@@therealjollification I knew it! I talked to him, my coach and my teammate in left field and they were all saying "the 1st baseman is never a cutoff man".
Thanks man
Got some bad coaches if they’re telling you that.
Damn Jimmy, last Padres breakdown you mentioned Profar as "the Left Fielder". And how the tides have turned.
I like the freeze frame at 3:38 where Manny is just staring directly into the camera
Don't think the SS did anything wrong here. Depending on how the ball bounces off the wall, there might have been a play at 2nd. He has to commit at some point.
Professional response from Profar. Owning your mistakes will make you a better player/person.