I did a pan drop on a 2009, removed the filter. Almost to a drop, 4 quarts came out. I did it in Park, not Neutral. My spec calls for Mercon LV. I sent the transmission sample to Blackstone. Original oil in a car 170k miles, 3700 idle hours. Yellow plug was in the pan. If anyone is interested I can post the results.
When you drain the pan first, the suction inlet to the pump is dry, so the pump can't pump. It would be better to to pour clean fluid into the fill tube and run the pump, capturing old fluid from the cooler lines. Of course, this would take a lot of fresh fluid. I'm not even sure a shop can do a better job with a flush system? It comes down to gradual dilution of the old oil with fresh oil, no matter how it's done. Might be better to drain and refill the few quarts that come out of the pan with each engine oil change.
Good tips... that explains why I wasn't getting fluid out except when filling. And yes, that's one thing I love about having a drain plug. I can drop the pan and change the filter, then drive for a week, drain out 3-4 qts and replace, and repeat until the fluid is more red. Then maintain from there.
@@WJHandyDad Yes, the drain plug is something I need to add. Then, I could drain out the 3 quarts, or so, and top off the transmission fluid regularly. Maybe once per year, or with every engine oil change. That would keep the fluid pretty clear and fresh. Maybe replace the transmission filter every few years, or something like that.
hey man I found this comment on another video - what are your thoughts? "Draining the torque converter is very simple on these transmissions. You can see the round indented rubber plug on the bottom of the bell housing. Pull it then turn the converter with a screwdriver until you see a bolt. Unscrew the bolt and be ready for about 8 to 9 quarts to empty. Put bolt back in. Fill up with 4 quarts and start engine for 30 seconds. Turn off and add 4 more. Start engine for 30 seconds. Add 3 more and turn on engine. Add balance of oil as needed."
It's not Friday, that's illegal. You're gonna take all the views. Lol I still haven't gotten around to installing my drain plug. You need to work on your Mississipi's, that was only 8 seconds of cranking. Lol I hope an expert stops by and let's us know why not much fluid was coming out with engine running. Maybe transmission was cold, and not at operating temp. -Chuck
THE SYNTHETIC FLUID IS MUCH BETTER! IT DISPLACES HEAT WAY BETTER! CAUSES LESS FRICTION. LASTS MUCH LONGER! TRANS RUNS COOLER! LONGER! EXPENSIVE YES! BUT WORTH IT💪👊🐯🐯🐯👑👑👑
The famous 95 MERC runs CASTROL TransMax Synthetic MERCON V -- Motorcraft Filter; B&M Shift Improver Kit; B&M 13,000-lb. Trans Cooler; B&M Drain Plug. Set up for long-distance, high-speed cruising of the deserts and mountains of the American West. The CASTROL Synthetic Mercon V keeps the transmission shifting crisp and strong after 175,000+ miles. Pan drop and filter changes every 40,000 miles
There should be no risk since you don't just drain from the cooler lines, you feed the other line with tranny fluid, so you are pumping out the old as you are sucking in the new, to include all the fluid in the torque converter. Some will connect a 5-gallon fluid bag, hang it, and that feeds the intake coolant line. You can also not turn the valve on the bag till the fluid exiting starts to greatly reduce, limiting the mixing of the new with the old. This is what most none high-pressure transmission flush machines do anyway.
I been thinking about how to accomplish this effectively at home too. I’ve got a vacuum pump and have stuck that down dipstick tube instead of dropping pan. Not ideal. Wonder about splitting trans cooler line like you said. Run each one into 5 gal pail. 1 empty, 1 full of fresh fluid. I think bottom cooler line is out? I have a 4r70w apart on bench. Must investigate.
I did a pan drop on a 2009, removed the filter. Almost to a drop, 4 quarts came out. I did it in Park, not Neutral. My spec calls for Mercon LV. I sent the transmission sample to Blackstone. Original oil in a car 170k miles, 3700 idle hours. Yellow plug was in the pan. If anyone is interested I can post the results.
yeah, post the results. I bet most of us would find it interesting.
When you drain the pan first, the suction inlet to the pump is dry, so the pump can't pump. It would be better to to pour clean fluid into the fill tube and run the pump, capturing old fluid from the cooler lines. Of course, this would take a lot of fresh fluid. I'm not even sure a shop can do a better job with a flush system? It comes down to gradual dilution of the old oil with fresh oil, no matter how it's done. Might be better to drain and refill the few quarts that come out of the pan with each engine oil change.
Good tips... that explains why I wasn't getting fluid out except when filling. And yes, that's one thing I love about having a drain plug. I can drop the pan and change the filter, then drive for a week, drain out 3-4 qts and replace, and repeat until the fluid is more red. Then maintain from there.
@@WJHandyDad Yes, the drain plug is something I need to add. Then, I could drain out the 3 quarts, or so, and top off the transmission fluid regularly. Maybe once per year, or with every engine oil change. That would keep the fluid pretty clear and fresh. Maybe replace the transmission filter every few years, or something like that.
Good info, need to find time to do it.
hey man I found this comment on another video - what are your thoughts?
"Draining the torque converter is very simple on these transmissions. You can see the round indented rubber plug on the bottom of the bell housing. Pull it then turn the converter with a screwdriver until you see a bolt. Unscrew the bolt and be ready for about 8 to 9 quarts to empty. Put bolt back in. Fill up with 4 quarts and start engine for 30 seconds. Turn off and add 4 more. Start engine for 30 seconds. Add 3 more and turn on engine. Add balance of oil as needed."
if my memory is correct, that only applies to certain year models.
@@WJHandyDad Your correct, drain plug in the converter went away in the late 90s
It's not Friday, that's illegal. You're gonna take all the views. Lol
I still haven't gotten around to installing my drain plug.
You need to work on your Mississipi's, that was only 8 seconds of cranking. Lol
I hope an expert stops by and let's us know why not much fluid was coming out with engine running. Maybe transmission was cold, and not at operating temp.
-Chuck
and by "I hope an expert" you are referring to yourself, right? So you're saying I'd have been better off warming up everything?
@@WJHandyDad
Absolutely not.
I was talking about Freddy Hollingsworth, or Panther Platform, or somebody else.
I ain't no expert. lol
-Chuck
THE SYNTHETIC FLUID IS MUCH BETTER! IT DISPLACES HEAT WAY BETTER! CAUSES LESS FRICTION. LASTS MUCH LONGER! TRANS RUNS COOLER! LONGER! EXPENSIVE YES! BUT WORTH IT💪👊🐯🐯🐯👑👑👑
The famous 95 MERC runs CASTROL TransMax Synthetic MERCON V -- Motorcraft Filter; B&M Shift Improver Kit; B&M 13,000-lb. Trans Cooler; B&M Drain Plug. Set up for long-distance, high-speed cruising of the deserts and mountains of the American West.
The CASTROL Synthetic Mercon V keeps the transmission shifting crisp and strong after 175,000+ miles.
Pan drop and filter changes every 40,000 miles
There should be no risk since you don't just drain from the cooler lines, you feed the other line with tranny fluid, so you are pumping out the old as you are sucking in the new, to include all the fluid in the torque converter. Some will connect a 5-gallon fluid bag, hang it, and that feeds the intake coolant line. You can also not turn the valve on the bag till the fluid exiting starts to greatly reduce, limiting the mixing of the new with the old. This is what most none high-pressure transmission flush machines do anyway.
thanks for sharing
I been thinking about how to accomplish this effectively at home too. I’ve got a vacuum pump and have stuck that down dipstick tube instead of dropping pan. Not ideal. Wonder about splitting trans cooler line like you said. Run each one into 5 gal pail. 1 empty, 1 full of fresh fluid. I think bottom cooler line is out? I have a 4r70w apart on bench. Must investigate.
I've used the vacuum pump to pull some fluid out of the fill tube if I did an overfill, but haven't tried it for a "change"
do you remember how many quarts you were able to suck out of the dipstick tube?
@@yousufkan6960 I think it was about 3 1/2 litres?
What size is the clear tubing you use? I can’t find the info online. Thanks!
I don't remember unfortunately. I have tubing in all sizes. My guess is either 3/8" or 5/16"
Yo BST, you do this job yet on your rigs?
Are you doing the fluid flush on a 2010?
yes that's my 2010