🇺🇸🇨🇳 Tesla vs NIO, Economic Warfare and more Battles of the US China Rivalry with Shaun Rein

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @shaunrein4708
    @shaunrein4708 5 месяцев назад +43

    Pleasure meeting you finally - thanks for taking the time to meet me and for reaching out to me all these times
    I'm glad we finally made it work and hopefully you're audience will enjoy our wide ranging talk

    • @_bodas_
      @_bodas_ 5 месяцев назад +1

      It really did, thank you

    • @houfame
      @houfame 5 месяцев назад

      Great interview!
      But the Chinese investors including the pension funds and mfs are anti intuitive! Looks at India or US, they are invested in their markets and will do everything to prop up or support the market whether its the gov or the investors!
      What's strange is in China, the investors don't want the market to be properly valued? is it to hurt the Chinese gov like they want to take revenge for what happen to Jack Ma, which I think was the right thing to do to stop the ant ipo!

    • @YoungTang
      @YoungTang 5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for a great interview. I personally had the opportunity to work out of China between 04 to 08. There was a time everyone was talking about the stockmarket like people talked about the crypto market. During that time, some of my wealthier friend told me the stock market was quite corrupted, there was barely any regulation. In your honest opinion, what do you feel about their current stock market? Lets face it, even the American market, its full of market manipulation, insider trading and lack of regulation. The reason I ask is because I personally put some money in the Chinese mutual fund market near 20 years ago, I really haven't seen any gains.

  • @_Wai_Wai_
    @_Wai_Wai_ 5 месяцев назад +5

    what a Rare, balanced, and educational talk this is.

  • @qingshanyipian1936
    @qingshanyipian1936 5 месяцев назад +7

    Most people in China couldn’t care any less about whether they’re liked by the U.S. they’re too busy with improving their lives in China.

  • @randomname931
    @randomname931 5 месяцев назад +2

    Good talk, very educational

  • @silys5253
    @silys5253 5 месяцев назад +1

    Two of my favorites

  • @lenajin9775
    @lenajin9775 5 месяцев назад +19

    Wow, what a great interview! Shaun is super knowledgeable about the Chinese economy and so eloquent in his delivery.

  • @JL882jets
    @JL882jets 5 месяцев назад +23

    Wow, what a spectacular interview. Thanks.
    I have always felt the same as what Shaun has to say in the interview but hearing from a person with integrity with no bias was very informative.
    Thanks again Marcel and I will also be following Shaun as well on other channels.

  • @frankyeo8931
    @frankyeo8931 5 месяцев назад +3

    Genuine and truthful and no prejudice. Great stuff

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco 5 месяцев назад +10

    I just instantly feel better just to hear Shaun say NIO.

  • @ecarpo3479
    @ecarpo3479 5 месяцев назад +7

    He complains about the 3month lockdown in Shanghai but he doesn’t explain how for all the rest of the time most people in China lived with basically no lockdown. The lockdowns were stricter in China but they were far shorter and far less damaging than in the west. He says they spent all their money on covid tests, how much does he think these tests cost? The US and UK were paying people’s wages for months and months. Sure there was nervousness straight after lockdown was lifted, I travelled at that time and tourist places had definitely been quite badly damaged but 6months to a year later and tourism is booming more than I’ve ever seen it. Traveling during holidays was always horrible, but now it’s horrible on weekends. From what I see the economy is back to pre covid, sure some people might be swapping out their Starbucks for luckin or their Porsche for Nio but that’s less to do with trying to save more money and more to do with people trying to support Chinese brands after seeing how Chinese companies are being treated by the west and the US in particular. They are also waking up to the fact that a Nio is just as good if not better than a Porsche so why not support a local brand and save some money to spend on eating out or traveling. Honestly this guy seems stuck in a Shanghai/western bubble and I couldn’t disagree more with his takes.

  • @ors381
    @ors381 5 месяцев назад +9

    Very valuable content with Shaun Rein. Thank you for that, Marcel and Shaun.

  • @rc6251
    @rc6251 5 месяцев назад +12

    Well, Nio doesn't want to make a move into the US at this time anyhow. The Chinese EV producers are focused on developing and dominating the China market.

    • @DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity
      @DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity  5 месяцев назад +5

      Correct

    • @blcsfo
      @blcsfo 5 месяцев назад

      I purchased a lot of NIO stick and made over 40 NIO RUclips videos from 2017 , when I first stepped into NIO’s first Flagship NIO House in Beijing. I rode NIO shares from under US $3.00 to $67.00 back to where it is today, $5.00.
      I was hoping to buy a NIO EV in 2025 in the USA. I test drove a NIO ET5 in Beijing last July 2023. I know NIO will not be sold in the USA, under the Biden Regime. Maybe there’s a slight chance for BYD 比亚迪 via Mexico under WTO, but that channel seems to be cut. If not NIO, I want to purchase a Chinese made EV car in the USA.
      Geely has a chance with its Volvo line, since it already has distribution channels in the USA. I can still buy a Chinese EV car, with Geely/Volvo some day. 蔚来加点!
      I visit NIO Houses 蔚来中心whenever I go to China. Learn more about NIO:NEV 蔚来新功能汽车 ruclips.net/p/PLLNWkthyggM48Wb8GVltnHZ681Q_BP_QA

  • @AW-gu5gj
    @AW-gu5gj 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great interview. Thank you both!

  • @alfredkay
    @alfredkay 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great interview indeed!
    Thank you both very much!!!

  • @asazax
    @asazax 5 месяцев назад +5

    I liked this man. Will follow him from now on.

  • @jamesho8820
    @jamesho8820 5 месяцев назад +26

    Thank-you for interviewing Shaun. He is truly a dynamo and gem. What a breath of fresh air. I am truly dismayed that he has been boycotted by the likes of "Doomberg" and the WSJ. His comments merely confirm my impressions of China and fabricated distortions by the Western media. Additionally, having relatives in the field and on the ground gives me of a more genuine idea of the China situation. I checked Shaun's YT site. His teenage son is a "chip off the old block" and really prodigious.
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  • @liuchengduweidao
    @liuchengduweidao 5 месяцев назад +3

    Shaun the Legend. Met when we both were young like Marcel 😁🙌

  • @DailyBeatings
    @DailyBeatings 5 месяцев назад +25

    I didn't hear anything controversial from Shaun in the least bit. The problem is the toxic and polluted political environment that imperialism creates which permeates western media.

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 5 месяцев назад +63

    Who wants a Porsche if you can get a NIO? Porsche is so yesterday

    • @torontodave9840
      @torontodave9840 5 месяцев назад +1

      Well. I own plenty of NIO, as it’s a company with a fantastic vision and can clearly execute. And I love NIO cars, especially the ET5t, which is just gorgeous. But I still love Porsche too. They have beautiful cars.

    • @kapk
      @kapk 5 месяцев назад +4

      That bit of his analysis re: "trading down" sounds really western centric, ignoring the rising nationalism surrounding Chinese tech and products as a result of the rising sanctions and western propaganda.

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 5 месяцев назад

      @@kapk well trading down doesn't necessarily mean going to an inferior product, just to a more affordable product

  • @derrickpangilinan
    @derrickpangilinan 5 месяцев назад +27

    100% EV Tariff? place an export tariff on Lithium minerals, see if the US can make batteries.

    • @Fliptop95
      @Fliptop95 5 месяцев назад +4

      I agree with both of you and I have a touch of humor for this.... When this all plays out will Biden get a tramp stamp tattoo of a dragon on his lower back? 😂

  • @larrywang3841
    @larrywang3841 5 месяцев назад +4

    Good people are always truthful.

  • @mistman5640
    @mistman5640 5 месяцев назад +8

    Shaun is the da bomb!

  • @ZenLH
    @ZenLH 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great interview and insightful analysis

  • @herozero12th
    @herozero12th 5 месяцев назад +29

    We like you Shaun..keep telling the truth.

  • @alancev8463
    @alancev8463 5 месяцев назад +4

    Wow…… very informative info and great content …thanks Marcel and Shaun…… truthful and honest opinions are hard to come by….🙏🏻thanks again

  • @kalipotmeng
    @kalipotmeng 5 месяцев назад +1

    I definitely agree with Shaun's opinion that there's a consensus behind WSJ and NY Times to shape the American public view on China in a certain direction. I'm a subscriber of both newspapers and i see that first hand because i also search for news on China from elsewhere. Shaun is definitely more trustworthy.

  • @arohyadav33
    @arohyadav33 5 месяцев назад +4

    Shaun is very impressive. I will surely read his book

  • @kenanishmael3328
    @kenanishmael3328 5 месяцев назад +3

    It was an amazing interview. Great talk good points , loved it. Thanks Marcel. 👍

  • @jeanhuynh8548
    @jeanhuynh8548 5 месяцев назад +13

    Look at Marcel face when Shawn talks negatively about Tesla LOL 😂

  • @jdlnameson
    @jdlnameson 5 месяцев назад +4

    Magnificent interview. Great guy. 👍🏻

  • @dualidea
    @dualidea 5 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome!

  • @NielsHenrikChristiansen
    @NielsHenrikChristiansen 5 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you so much for a fantastic interview Marcel😍

  • @aleaiactaest8354
    @aleaiactaest8354 5 месяцев назад +2

    What a loss for Bloomberg!
    He should be a regular on this channel.

  • @tedvancour8470
    @tedvancour8470 5 месяцев назад +9

    Amazing interview. Thanks 👍👍👍

  • @Hafonso76
    @Hafonso76 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great analysis. I'm now following Shaun on X and RUclips.

  • @brettmullin7575
    @brettmullin7575 5 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you Marcel!

  • @gsahl
    @gsahl 5 месяцев назад +5

    Excellent piece👍

  • @Thierry_from_South_of_France
    @Thierry_from_South_of_France 5 месяцев назад +8

    It is a great interview Marcel . Thanks for your work. Thierry from South of France

  • @lindabadran3247
    @lindabadran3247 5 месяцев назад +18

    Such an interesting interview! I’m disgusted by the emerging news of our “free media” . I’ve felt for a very long time that it tends to be like “state controlled media “. The banning of TikTok cannot stop the people’s need for true news . Thank you Marcel .

  • @jjwang8858
    @jjwang8858 5 месяцев назад +6

    Great interview thank you!

  • @talamar1819
    @talamar1819 5 месяцев назад +7

    Great interview Marcel! Thanks

  • @lifesagardendigitmax
    @lifesagardendigitmax 5 месяцев назад +10

    Two honest people. I like!❤

  • @Brisamars-q1c
    @Brisamars-q1c 5 месяцев назад +6

    Shaun should be advising Apple and Tesla. Look forward to hearing more from Shaun on YT - Historians will call the first half of the 21st Century as China's Renaissance.

  • @fregger74
    @fregger74 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great video! So much valuable information

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 5 месяцев назад +45

    The Western world is sick of the USA and the Obama Administration.

    • @hermesliteratus882
      @hermesliteratus882 5 месяцев назад

      Biden is even worse.

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 5 месяцев назад +1

      all started with Obana....

    • @grandwonder5858
      @grandwonder5858 5 месяцев назад

      The entire world is sick and tired of the USA, period, regardless of the administration that is in power! The US isn’t run by the president anyway! He is just a figurehead! It’s the billionaire class that rules over America!

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wait what about George W Bush?

  • @_RLP
    @_RLP 5 месяцев назад +6

    Why doesn't China impose a hefty tax on lithium (and other minerals used in batteries and chips) being exported to countries such as the US? Wouldn't that be a good way for the government to make money while boosting their own tech companies (EVs, chips, etc)?

  • @moreto62
    @moreto62 5 месяцев назад +6

    What a smart guy ❤

  • @dkqubas
    @dkqubas 5 месяцев назад +5

    Great interview!! Thank You Marcel

  • @DELTACO..UBERDRIVER..STOCKS..
    @DELTACO..UBERDRIVER..STOCKS.. 5 месяцев назад +6

    listening to this while ubering from la 💯💯

  • @azgator1
    @azgator1 5 месяцев назад +6

    Great interview Marcel!

  • @zacharycohen9985
    @zacharycohen9985 3 месяца назад

    Watched Shaun's interviews in cnbc for the last 6 years, guy has been consistent and most importantly - balanced and objective!
    Hope Shaun expands his coverage beyond consumer/retail sector. Keen on his thoughts on crypto and btc in China

  • @Facts12329
    @Facts12329 5 месяцев назад +14

    Great Talk, loved it. Shaun definitely sound genuine analyst!

  • @valentinostabile9687
    @valentinostabile9687 5 месяцев назад +13

    A breath of fresh air

  • @novakbirisic1660
    @novakbirisic1660 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great interview I really love all comparison and what are the trends in global economy. Also, While it's noteworthy that you've recognized NIO as a significant competitor to Tesla in the EV industry, it's essential to also acknowledge Xiaomi's entry into the EV market, including how they are approaching entrance in EV industry and already positioning them as fierce competitor. They are already build brand and already built distribution centers in the world not just China. Xiaomi to me is a serious player in EV industry now. Another topics that is missing her for discussion is TikTok and how this will influence geopolitics and economy between US-China. Overall really good interview and I enjoy a lot watching it.

  • @roxanneabdollahi3716
    @roxanneabdollahi3716 5 месяцев назад +3

    Very good thanks

  • @aleksal9132
    @aleksal9132 5 месяцев назад +5

    If the sentiment is so very negative, it might indicate that we reached the lows in the economy and from here it will go up?

  • @markusrapke7390
    @markusrapke7390 5 месяцев назад +13

    What a great open mind without the ideological bullshit

  • @kawaiimdsweey9348
    @kawaiimdsweey9348 5 месяцев назад +5

    Thank to both of you for the great talk.

  • @ankita209
    @ankita209 5 месяцев назад

    Great discussion. Please more of this. Learned a lot

  • @jc9109
    @jc9109 5 месяцев назад +2

    Japanese needs to consult with these 2 intelligent men 😊

  • @ክወግሕእዩጽባሕ
    @ክወግሕእዩጽባሕ 5 месяцев назад +7

    Marcel please bring and interview this kind of smart guy.

  • @cabasadefogo9533
    @cabasadefogo9533 5 месяцев назад

    Great interview!

  • @louislomartra8577
    @louislomartra8577 5 месяцев назад +1

    thanks Marcel for the info

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 5 месяцев назад +2

    29:20 Deckers UGG, Chanel doing well 29:50 Zara 31;00 apple tsla will bounce back 36:00 China the biggest growth market 37:00 Japan, Plaza accord 41:00 Bloomberg ban, no independent voice

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco 5 месяцев назад +2

    I cannot wait to get back to Asia. Makes the rest of the world look asleep.

  • @smallinvestor1713
    @smallinvestor1713 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent.

  • @torontodave9840
    @torontodave9840 5 месяцев назад

    Perspective is always reality. So we’re always going to have different truths. That’s never going to change, so people need to always listen to multiple perspectives in order to make informed decisions.

  • @rafa374
    @rafa374 5 месяцев назад

    THANKS! REIN REALLY GOOD

    • @rafa374
      @rafa374 5 месяцев назад

      In banning Rein the US MSM are banning common sense and realism over wish-fulfilment. Only one more sign the US is doomed to a downward spiral. And hwne Trump gets in they will really get into their own funeral biz.

  • @iulian.c0
    @iulian.c0 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow! nice insights!! Marcel you are doing a great Job! Thank you! more bulish on Nio now!!!

  • @tongfattho6913
    @tongfattho6913 5 месяцев назад +1

    China has the cool to be the croaching tiger, though no more a hidden dragon.

  • @Fliptop95
    @Fliptop95 5 месяцев назад +3

    I do want to touch on one thing. People may think the dollar is strong but how about in the US? I mean everything costs double, so wouldn't it seem that the dollar is worth $.50cents?

  • @rainerluthershelley5131
    @rainerluthershelley5131 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very good video Marcel..Take a break. 👋

  • @Kk-mn1fq
    @Kk-mn1fq 5 месяцев назад

    Whats your Venmo. I'm buying you both a coffee. This was excellent.

  • @MsOpineminded
    @MsOpineminded 5 месяцев назад +3

    Don't understand why he thinks the lockdowns (water under the bridge by now) is bad for China, "Trading down" merely meant China companies benefitted and China's EV cars are now leading and eroding US share of China's massive growing market.
    Poor analysis.

  • @longcimb
    @longcimb 5 месяцев назад +1

    China is the next China.....I like it!

  • @nitasteiger2236
    @nitasteiger2236 5 месяцев назад

    Very informative interview! How to subscribe to this channel ?

  • @LetsLearnEconomic
    @LetsLearnEconomic 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Dongxii

  • @corellian2011
    @corellian2011 5 месяцев назад +1

    we got it. Elon just figured out superchargers only take from the grid....whereas swap stations give and take to the grid. He is one step behind with his megapacks. Nio jumped right over him.

  • @michaeltse321
    @michaeltse321 5 месяцев назад +2

    the us stock market and economy is growing due to debt. 1 trillion every 3 months. not through inovation or efficiency

  • @IceCubebecd
    @IceCubebecd 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tesla will be like Samsung in China.

  • @rossmullins8708
    @rossmullins8708 5 месяцев назад

    Tesla, if add up all its many components, could easily be a 10 Trillion dollar capitalization. At the current stock price, Tesla is a screaming value.

  • @HEBEcoin
    @HEBEcoin 5 месяцев назад +2

    Shaun, I agree with 90% of your analysis, with exception of the following;
    1. BYD sales have notabuly drpped in china along side of Tesla
    2. FSD 12.4 / Robtotaxi launch by Tesla is gamechanger tech
    3. Any new EV buyer will need to assess being complettely left behind if they opt not to buy a Tesla
    4. The tech pilots that begin Hangzhou, Bejing, Shanghai will shock people on how good and humanlike it really is
    5. President ZI visit to SF is recongition that America will achieve AGI well before China and he is big time worried 😮
    6. Apple although expensive is far superior product
    The balance of all your other comments were very good, accurate and informative.
    Thank you!

  • @8964美籍回族人谈耶稣
    @8964美籍回族人谈耶稣 5 месяцев назад

    Love this interview. Feel the same about Trump.

  • @fredfrond6148
    @fredfrond6148 5 месяцев назад +1

    I made some money on tencent maybe I will DCA out. I will still hold Bidu.

  • @lamartinierelaguerre9554
    @lamartinierelaguerre9554 5 месяцев назад

    Nio has my money, they better work harder.

  • @georwoogle
    @georwoogle 5 месяцев назад +1

    ✌✌✌

  • @roxanneabdollahi3716
    @roxanneabdollahi3716 5 месяцев назад +17

    Please come back to USA. I think trump much open to list to young people. We need good people to advise them better. Biden is totally BS.

    • @hopemeng7263
      @hopemeng7263 5 месяцев назад +2

      the problem is he trump might be going to jail....if it happen then he is done.... 80 + 24 years = 104 of age.....

    • @Vladimirleninputin
      @Vladimirleninputin 5 месяцев назад

      He would need to be examined bye a psychologist if he went back to the states

  • @idofdm7625
    @idofdm7625 5 месяцев назад +2

    First, let me state that the following is only my opinion!
    I grew more and more dissolution and cynical of our political process! Where Trump can appoint someone like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon as advisors, former write Death by China, latter has in many occasions made I consider racist remark!
    What about the latest debacle of Biden's economic advisor, Jared Berstein's almost Biden like Senior moment! Our leader are only as good as advisors they hire!
    It's just a giant echo chamber that does not seek out different opinions to even consider!
    Take us down the toilets as long as propaganda is gaining support, not the facts on the ground, IMO!

  • @terencelim9889
    @terencelim9889 5 месяцев назад

    Hmm, feels a little like Ross Gerber in the house...ambitious and self laudatory vibes.

  • @watatoi1515
    @watatoi1515 5 месяцев назад

    👍🙏

  • @figgy1million787
    @figgy1million787 5 месяцев назад

    Great interview and guest👍🏼

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco 5 месяцев назад

    Marcel might be a little heavy in tesla. saw some emotion there.

  • @DanBurgaud
    @DanBurgaud 5 месяцев назад

    8:25 I have no doubt there will be a hot war too.

  • @kennybui753
    @kennybui753 5 месяцев назад +1

    US market is huge, but Does have to sell car in us to survive. I don’t think so. Tesla dominates EV in US.

  • @hopemeng7263
    @hopemeng7263 5 месяцев назад

    You forgot to ask him about bitcoin.....

  • @jamesp5301
    @jamesp5301 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thugs and bad people fearing accountability. That will really appeal to Europeans. Still he has an interesting perspective

  • @PravdaSeed
    @PravdaSeed 5 месяцев назад

    💙. Thanks .💙
    *Westerners:
    Reincarnated🐣
    Zombie 👻
    inquisitorss👻
    ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 5 месяцев назад +1

    😃😃 Chinese are more frugal.😃😃

  • @figgy1million787
    @figgy1million787 5 месяцев назад +1

    So, he mentioned Onvo, why didn't you say you didn't like it?

    • @DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity
      @DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity  5 месяцев назад +2

      Don’t twist my words: I said I am not having high sales expectations in the short term for ONVO. Wanna get banned on here too, just like on X?

    • @figgy1million787
      @figgy1million787 5 месяцев назад

      I'm banned on X, since when? Don't get cocky Marcel

    • @figgy1million787
      @figgy1million787 5 месяцев назад +3

      @DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity now you're into sending threats? Man, becoming a father has made you tense. Ban me now, I could care less. Don't forget where you started.

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 5 месяцев назад +1

    👏👏👍🇧🇷🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳🇿🇦➕️👍✌️✌️