The Organic Moderated Reactor Experiment (1958)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @vote4carp
    @vote4carp День назад +13

    Thanks for translating the original Spanish audio for us, Shirly! Great job.

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  День назад +8

      She did an amazing job. I was a little surprised when I picked up the hard drive from the scanners and the soundtrack was in Spanish. She saved the day for the English speaking crew.

  • @bavarianmonkey8326
    @bavarianmonkey8326 День назад +16

    "and a wall thickness of 2.54 centimeters" sounds suspicially imperial 😂

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  20 часов назад +4

      It was built in imperial, translated to Spanish, and then translated back to English so yeah it was 1"

    • @bavarianmonkey8326
      @bavarianmonkey8326 7 часов назад

      @whatisnuclear sure, it was a USA design. Just found it funny to hear an english voiceover in a Film about a USA nuclear design not meant for the military that uses metic.

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 День назад +11

    They have found that organics work extremely well for nuclear diven stirling engines. Deuteratated pentane or difluoro ethylene work the best. The core is a ceramic honeycomb and a variable beryllium reflector gives gain. It bumps in pulses like a coffeemaker so each time it gets hot it dumps a puff of gas from the moderation fluid it lowers the reactivity. Posible candidate for space probes that need more power than a RTG can provide.❤

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  День назад +2

      Love it. I was just reading about deuterated hydrocarbons in one of the OMRE reports. Probably the most obscure reactor coolant/moderator

  • @ericdanielski4802
    @ericdanielski4802 День назад +7

    Nice documentary.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 День назад +8

    That playing card shirt is incredible.

  • @daveys
    @daveys День назад +10

    I believe that they use the same type of melted cheese that Greggs use in their cheese and onion pasties. About same temperature too.

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 День назад +1

      Has to be the cheese material used in nuked pizza pockets in the US. That gets critical to be sure. 😂

  • @heathcliff8624
    @heathcliff8624 День назад +3

    Thank you for this.

  • @markh.6687
    @markh.6687 День назад +8

    "Flammable Coolants? What could possibly go wrong?"

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  День назад +4

      To be fair we've run lots of reactors with liquid metal sodium and NaK coolant as well, which is explosive on contact with water in the presence of oxygen. We can control for this (e.g. by keeping oxygen out).

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 День назад +3

      @@whatisnuclear Yes, I know about those. It just sounds like a bad idea cooling something with low-flash point hydrocarbons. Wonder if they ever tried using Diesel fuel, which is harder to ignite. I mean, it was the 50's and 60's, when every nuclear idea was a good one, right? :)

    • @BobOgden1
      @BobOgden1 День назад +2

      Honestly I keep expecting to run into an example of a boiling mercury system like they tried on conventional power stations - I mean they had Pluto so why not

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  20 часов назад +1

      @@BobOgden1 How about just plain old liquid mercury? Clementine did that. doi.org/10.1080/00295450.2023.2176686

    • @BobOgden1
      @BobOgden1 14 часов назад

      @@whatisnuclear Oh be still my heart 😍My life is complete.
      What could possibly go wrong

  • @samsmith9764
    @samsmith9764 День назад +1

    Thanks for the upload :)

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 8 часов назад

    The production of radioactive C14 in the "Santowax" (whatever that actually was) must have been phenomenal.

  • @TheOpticalFreak
    @TheOpticalFreak День назад +1

    Where is the original audio?! 😢

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  20 часов назад

      Linked in the description! When I got it digitized I was surprised to find it Spanish! ruclips.net/video/e5AOcPYXZyg/видео.html

  • @hmbpnz
    @hmbpnz День назад +2

    Wow, where is the English version of this? Thanks for the translation! Would be spectacular to snag the English version of this film as well....I love the original audio in these old films....where are you finding these?

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  20 часов назад +2

      Not sure where the original English soundtrack is. This is just what came out of the National Archives fault of 16mm films. I explain how I get these here: ruclips.net/video/jJ0lxki0a2U/видео.html

    • @hmbpnz
      @hmbpnz 11 часов назад

      @@whatisnuclear Thanks for the reply! The videos that you are uploading are a critical part of our scientific history and I thank you.

  • @swokatsamsiyu3590
    @swokatsamsiyu3590 2 часа назад

    Oh goodie! A new historical nuclear gem for us to enjoy. I truly like watching these old research films. But where is that soothing polygonal voice-over from yesteryear? This AI lady doesn't quite have the same charm😅

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics День назад +2

    polyphenol (hydrocarbon coolant and moderator)

  • @Subsonik762
    @Subsonik762 День назад

    What was the intent or goal using organics? Why would you want organics as your moderator/medium?

    • @jasonpearson2507
      @jasonpearson2507 8 часов назад

      Lower operating pressure and basically no corrosion is my guess
      But I'm guessing the byproducts produced in the coolant were nasty to say the least...
      Also hydrogen and steel bo not play nice at elevated temperature and pressure

  • @JoshuaMay-e2n
    @JoshuaMay-e2n День назад +1

    Why was the original narration in Spanish?

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  20 часов назад

      That's just what the film reel they had at the National Archives happened to have I guess. They made these films and gave them as presentations all around the world in different languages. Obviously there was an english soundtrack somewhere as well, but that's not the one I found and digitized.

    • @JoshuaMay-e2n
      @JoshuaMay-e2n 12 часов назад

      @@whatisnuclear Of course, right, makes sense. Well anyway, thank you for this, I really enjoyed it.

  • @K_Hansen
    @K_Hansen День назад +1

    when the ussr fell me and some others where almost able to get 2 800w RTG's that georga (the country) was pulling out

  • @wm377
    @wm377 День назад +3

    Who thought this was a good idea. What's next, a mayonnaise-cooled reactor?

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  День назад +9

      Lots of people thought, and still think, organic fluids may make a good reactor material. Here's a recent publication from MIT: dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/117025/1-s2.0-S1738573316300031-main.pdf

    • @sambrose1
      @sambrose1 День назад +6

      I built one. Tiny 1500 kw backyard off grid kinda thing. I had a high pressure high temperature mayonnaise loop feeding the steam generator for the turbine. So anyway it ran great at around 975psi about 550 degree Fahrenheit.

    • @wm377
      @wm377 День назад

      @@sambrose1 Did you have to run a hydro-cracker for the eggs?

    • @Sim-q9t
      @Sim-q9t День назад +1

      GMO bees, GMO bees, that swarm, and feed off of radiation, and beat their wings to cool the reactor...duh...

    • @Sim-q9t
      @Sim-q9t День назад +2

      @@sambrose1 where did you source your organic mayonaise? I heard it's important to get good quality. Did you have any problems with mayo fouling in your condenser core fins??

  • @membola
    @membola 15 часов назад

    cool video. thanks for the upload. i just came across your channel. will sub for sure.

  • @City__Walker
    @City__Walker 11 часов назад

    heating of the coolant😂😂, strange idea

  • @FrisoGorter
    @FrisoGorter 18 часов назад +2

    This AI narration nonsense is getting really annoying.

  • @cpm1003
    @cpm1003 День назад +1

    Kg/cm^2 is a lousy unit for pressure. Great video, though!

    • @hmbpnz
      @hmbpnz День назад +2

      Is it really though? Worse than pounds per square inch? Sure, I have an intuition as an American about what a PSI is....but if I had been raised and schooled using a saner system like metric it would be equally relatable.
      At least I know how to convert the metric stuff into other metric measurements by dividng and multiplying by 10....

    • @cpm1003
      @cpm1003 День назад

      @@hmbpnz I can do metric, smart-ass. Kg are a unit of mass, not force. Pressure is force/area, not mass/area. The correct metric unit would be Pascals.

    • @bavarianmonkey8326
      @bavarianmonkey8326 День назад +1

      ​@@hmbpnzboth are kind of half good because neither kg nor pounds are force related but mass related units.
      One should rather use a force there, like newtons

    • @sashimanu
      @sashimanu День назад +1

      1 kg(f)/cm2 is a mouthful to pronounce but easy to understand: it is approximately the air pressure at sea level. Conveniently, there is a pressure unit for that: 1 atmosphere or 1 bar is approximately 1 kgf/cm2, with an error of about 3%. 1 atm is also approximately 15 pound-force of bald eagle per square inch of of an Olympic-size swimming pool. This imprecision is perfectly acceptable for general discussion when not chasing decimal points.
      The SI unit of pressure is pascal: 1 Pa is 1 newton of force per 1 meter squared of area. 1 Pa is a rather small unit, so megapascals are often used in plumbing (1 MPa ≈ 10 atm), and hectopascals in weather science where more preceision is needed (1013.25 hPa = 1 atm = 760 mmHg = 29,92 inHg).
      If you think it’s complicated, look into radiation dosimetry :)