Remember Mr Plinket being a deranged maniac? Remember the gay wedding arc? Remember when they actually had customers besides Plinket? Remember "who wants a pizza roll?" Remember "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE?" George Lucas and other studio execs remember.
Let's all be honest with ourselves here: The original Ghostbusters ran around with unregulated nuclear devices on their backs for hours every day for years. None of them were ever going to have offspring.
I have an idea for the next Ghostbusters film. There will be four college age kids. There's a nerdy brainiac girl, a preppy model girl, a jock, and a stoner and his dog. They drive around in their van and investigate hauntings and mysteries. It's a work in progress but it might have potential.
Mike nailing it on the head: "The proton packs, light sabers, the fucking Delorean, [were] always in service of a story and characters. And now it's like the opposite; the characters are in service of the tech."
Also think of the endless plastic shit they can sell to the man babies. On a side not are they ever releasing RLM action figures? Maybe a plinketts house play set?
The fact is, that era of filmmaking is dead and gone, everything now is a CGI behemoth and they only look for the profit centers. Nevermind the fact that ghostbusters probably wont really work in present times, whether with an all woman cast or an all kids cast, they know that the lightsaber and the proton pack were 80s gold that they can sell to kids and adults again. Its so weird how they're basically trying to mind wipe everyone into reverting to an 80s shopping spree, like we're all going to go crazy trying to buy all the he man and star wars figurines at the toy barn.
That's what moron studio execs don't realise. They reason people like the stuff in movies is because they obsese with the film not the bits. That stuff comes after the love for the film to feel more connected. Now they want the connection straight away and it's hollow
@@MegamaXX500 You must only watch massive summer block busters. The best movies I've ever seen have been in the last 3 years. You've probably never heard of them.
As John Carpenter put it, the reason for all of these remakes is because studios save a fuckton of money on advertising when they dredge up a product with built-in name recognition.
Can't blame Hollywood if it makes them money. People are still running to get tickets for the 7000th superhero movie and all the reboots that can be made of something. Sadly it's the fault of the audience
I got teary eye when I saw Jay's Lightning Fast VCR Repair Jacket, but I ugly cried when I saw all three of the original Half in The Bag cast together on screen.
I also got teary eyed when I saw how unfunny Red Letter Media have become. Especially Mike who turned from one of the funniest guys on youtube into just "the bully". - with nothing funny to say. In fact my comment is funnier than red letter media today.
Has to be one of the most brutal ways i've seen a movie get reality checked. I've heard the "no character in that character", i've heard the "no development" or "no personality", "rubber duck character", but to outright call them "pawns", i was like, it's already dead, please, mercy.
Paul Rudd getting chased into the parking lot and then raptured by a literal dog from hell is a relatively generous depiction of Walmart-related incidents, should you have any doubt they had their hands in that scene.
All the good writers have moved over to streaming services, as long as you satisfy whatever oblique set of instructions Netflix or HBO desire of the show you can explore a theme far better on a TV show than a movie.
This, with only a hint of sarcasm. At least if everyone was on coke again then ridiculous (but not self-aware) pitches would not only get made but also green lit. The industry's in such a state, it's like they're not even sober, they're off their meds.
This is the best and most salient take. The absence of cocaine and it’s consequences have been a disaster for American cinema. I just watched Fletch again and it’s still amazing but it would be nothing if it wasn’t for the use and abuse of cocaine by Chevy and at least the writer and director.
"What if she found out she had the rights to the Ghostbusters franchise." is actually a great god damn setup. Down on her luck single mother with bills piling up finds out that her daughter, Egon's Granddaughter, technically owns the Ghostbusters franchise. So she starts franchising the shit out of *_Ghostbusters nostalgia_* with her help in order to save her and her kids from being kicked out of their childhood home by the bank. Y'know, like a satire and commentary about 80's franchises today. Everything seems to be going fine. Their house is back, they got a new car and college funds for all the kids. But she starts to go beyond her original goal, feeling the greed, despite her daughter's protests. They get a guest spot on a late-night talk show where she capitalizes on the nostalgia and anniversaries of the original events of the movie. Brave heroes, one of them her dad, saving New York twice, pretending to have been his protégé while growing up. Even though she actually doesn't know anything about her father, Egon. Then suddenly there's a massive ghost event that's threatening New York again or the small town or something. And who does everyone look to for help? Who do they call? The Ghostbusters. *_Her._*
You can always trust a cynical movie critic to have better ideas than the executives who usually do the job. Because people like Mike will only suggest ideas that don't make them feel sad and hollow inside.
As a child, I only ever watched Ghostbusters on VHS and a crappy 13" tv...I had no idea Peter was passing Egon a Crunch Bar...I thought he was giving him money.
The Ghostbusters video game from 2009 was basically the real Ghostbusters 3, the original actors voiced the characters and Aykroyd and Ramis wrote the story.
tbh i think this ghostbusters movie was meant to please people who say theyre ghostbusters fans because they more than likely saw the cartoon growing up more than the movie. basically people my age or slightly older who saw the cartoon and the toys. but what do you expect from Sony?
Can we all just agree yet that Ghostbusters 2 was actually pretty good? No, it's not nearly as good as the first(one of the greatest films ever made) but if u compare it to GB'16 & Afterlife... it's memorable & a lot of fun.
I like Ghostbusters 1 for the same reason I like RedLetterMedia. A bunch of cynical men got together for comedic effect. Definitely side with Mike on that.
I like the idea of the movie being about kids discovering forgotten tech they don't understand how to use. It's a metaphor for Hollywood adaptations, sequels and reboots.
@Dtaysche I beg to differ. That whole game was written by Reitman, Ramis, and Aykroyd. It expands on the paranormal aspects while also having the cynical funny dialog between all the original characters. Although it being in video game form allows alot of fantastical spectacle which kinda takes away from the groundedness of ghostbusters but is more practical than filming it. Also the game's programing hampers the comedic timing slightly tho I could so easily see the jokes landing well if it were a 3rd ghostbuster film.
They could just continue with the chicago ghostbusters or do what zootfly was going to do with their videogame that was cancelled because the other video game.
Gotta say, I’m looking forward to ‘Caddyshack: Afterlife’ - Where the grandkid of Rodney Dangerfield realises that golf is in his blood and the Bushwood Country Club is his destiny. Can’t wait for the lingering, loving shots of Chevy Chase’s golf club and Bill Murray’s pitchfork. It’s the heartwarming, rootsy, rural-drama Caddyshack sequel we’ve always wanted.
You just get done learning how to use a proton pack, and next thing you now you're fighting the grey lady in some alternative dimension library. Crazy first day.
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." - 1 Corinthians 13
It‘s okay to still like the toys but forcing them onto each following generation is just annoying as hell. Too bad that making mediocre new movies that evoke amazing old ones is so successful.
"Everyone who comes out says it was a real tearjerker, which is a great sign for a comedy", say what you will about Bill Murray, but the man cut right to the heart of everything wrong with modern media in one knife thrust.
The actual quote is, “Everyone one that has seen it says that they cry at the movie, so it should be an extremely successful comedy.” Don’t use quotation marks if you’re going to paraphrase.
"Nostalgia bukkake" is the absolute best way to describe this movie. By the way, the GB3 plot you casually pitched was brilliant and I'm upset we never got that
4:31 "There are not characters in this movie, there are pawns, " is not only an all time RLM quote, but an all time quote for cynical movie reviews in general
@@charlesrense5199 the thing is though he likes Indy. He’s said that Indy is his favorite character to play. And he actually looked like he gave a shit about acting with 2049. That scene where he’s looking at Rachel and sheds a tear or when he sees his daughter, he is genuinely great and seems like he cares as well because he gets to actually act. Han Solo just gave him nothing to work with. The reason we love Han Solo is because it’s pretty much just Harrison Ford. Han is one of my favorite Star Wars characters ever but if that was the character I had to play for 40 years, I’d be pissed off too, because there’s not much “acting” with Han. Deckard and Indy have way more scenes of an actor having to actually act.
@@charlesrense5199 or a Presumed Innocent sequel with a cast of CGI versions of Raul Julia, Brian Dennehy, Paul Winfield and John Spencer in a plot actually based on the sequels of the original book in which the same damn thing happens to the main character 20 years in the future.
I think the main difference is that Star Wars got bad cuz of of soulless branding. Harrison Ford got jaded because he saw it coming. Ghostbusters started to suck because Bill Murray killed any possibility of preventing that. Now he's gonna spend the rest of his life getting jerked around by corporate douche bags and he knows it's his own fault.
More like child exploitation in this case. Could be somewhat softened by the fact that the kids don't care bc they're doing what they love anyway -- building ghost hunting weapons and testing them in public. This almost sounds like the OG Bad News Bears.
@@peterchrist1945 Some things just don't translate well to humor, IMO. It's extremely hard to make both depressing people/concepts and seeming disdain for the franchise you're going to be a part of fun and/or funny. Especially when it's super easy to not do that.
The sad part is, most of their plot for the hypothetical 3rd film, is what happens in the Ghostbusters video game that came out years ago on the Xbox 360. You’re a new recruit that they are training to open a new franchise and since you are the new guy they give you all this experimental new equipment in case it goes wrong.
There's even a few edits of the game on RUclips to make it into a giant movie. Recently got remastered and it's actually fun to play. Outside the original movie and first 75 or so episodes of the cartoon it's the best thing to come out of Ghostbusters.
That game recently got rerelease on the Switch not too long ago. Not gonna lie, I was worried it had became as another forgotten license game from late 2000s. It's actually better good.
I hated that the young girl could wear the proton pack with no struggle. The thing would weigh upwards of 50 pounds. Also that the kids put on the Ghostbusters uniform and they fit. The uniforms were for mostly overweight men in their late 30s.
The obsession in this culture with movies made for children 40 years ago is deeply disturbing. Plus the takeaway from these films just misses the point.
Speaking of 80's properties that will never die... Robert Zemeckis has been reported as saying that as long as he's alive, he won't allow a remake/reboot/prequel/sequel to Back to the Future. And the only thing I can ever bring myself to think about is what the standing script and casting list is for Back to the Future 4 that 100% exists that's just waiting in the wings for him to croak so that it can be announced.
Meet Martha mcfly, played by Daisy Riddly, and professor Emma Brown played by Whoopi Goldberg , as hilarity ensues when this unlikely duo go back in time to fight misogyny and slavery . Back to the future 4 , directed by Paul Feig
37:28 - Holy shit. That sounds like a vastly superior film idea. The family are sleazily trying to capitalise on the Ghostbuster name the mother now legally owns, purely as a merchandising grift. Then suddenly they're forced in over their heads when it turns out to actually be real. And they need to grow as characters, wrestle with their demons, and save the day as this scrappy, flawed, fucked up family.
I was really hoping at the end the granddaughter says “No ghost can escape my busting” then shoots Egon and traps him. Cut to the faces of the other original ghost busters with their jaws dropped and Bill Murray says “What the f-“ and it ends
Dan Akroyd is quoted saying that the Ghostbusters video game is what the third true sequel to Ghostbusters would have been. Akroyd had a part in creating the video game. They basically find an island where all the slime is being produced. It was actually pretty good and interesting. So check it out if you are a fan of Ghostbusters.
The game finally answered the question of where the slime beneath NY came from. Even though GBII tried to tie the slime with Vigo it always felt like they existed separately.
I mean, I agree with it, but not because Aykroyd said it. Let's face it, he's been desperate to revive this franchise for years. He'll praise anything that has the Ghostbusters brand.
The Ghostbusters game is so chock-full of amazing lore and the story is spectacular. I've always wished it was adapted somewhat into a film and I'll always accept it as the third sequel.
Fun Fact: Nearly that exact wording is used in Brockmire when it's explained why they use a MOBA exclusive to draw in baseball fans. Because nostalgia *IS* the most powerful drug.
What’s wrong with a little nostalgia, how else would we ever fondly realise how good our younger years and more innocent simple times in our lives actually were
It's funny how in Watchmen (the series) there's a drug called nostalgia, that literally allows you to relive your memories, and it ends up being banned because people got addicted to it
Mike was mean to Rich in this one too, in the beginning called him dumb after interrupting him and then they showed a really awful cartoon caricature of him that just makes him look terrible and doesn't really even look how he really looks like, it's messed up how he was treated in this video, he's a good guy.
Honestly, I'm really impressed with the CGI technology -- They managed to create a convincing Rich Evans (RIP) for almost an hour of discussion. Bravo.
I got the feeling the movie would be like this from the 2nd trailer. I think that's the one where they showed the marshmellow people in walmart and I got the strongest memberberries vibes. The first trailer was alright and didn't go overboard but holy shit at the 2nd one. I was out after that one.
One of the things that helped the original is that they didn’t play it like a comedy. It just had funny moments that happened. That in itself was a delicate balance done right. There is a reason why the term is “lightning in a bottle”. It’s rare.
That's pretty much the tone of this new film. That's why I found it baffling that one of the guys (was it Jay? Rich?) criticized this film because Ghostbusters was a comedy film. Yes, it's technically classified as a comedy, but it was a movie that took its threat seriously and had funny moments along the way.
@@clintonwilcox4690 'Afterlife' does a great job with the deadpan humor of the original, right up until the tonal shift Mike mentioned, in which it descends into self-larping and exploitative schmaltz.
Yes, Ivan Reitman talks about that in the Ghostbusters commentary. It's EASY to just be goofy (Ghostbusters 2016), and it's EASY to just be serious (Ghostbusters: Afterlife), but to be both at the same time -- comical and realistic -- is a tricky sweet spot to nail.
The original Ghostbusters had a "feel" that modern movies don't have anymore. There's a distinct lack of slick-ness to the original that nobody bothers to replicate anymore, not just stylistically, but tonally. There's no veneer of ironic detachment in the comedy that Marvel movies beat to death, it was just funny. Even if Murray is kind of the godfather of that kind of humor, it comes off way more sincere in the original. God I miss Harold Ramis.
The thing about the first Ghostbusters is that the Ghostbusters themselves aren't cool at all. They're exterminators. They're all like, 30something balding dudes. They're shlubby and dorky and weird, and they literally never get a moment where they suddenly graduate from shlubs to cool badasses. The idea of badass Ghostbusters just kinda doesn't work, at least with the original cast.
Completely agree. Music has suffered the same fate. Nothing feels authentic anymore, really. Plus the people writing and directing these movies of that era were, and I might get shit for saying this, significantly more creative and talented.
Modern movies lost that feel because sincerity itself barely exists in modern popular culture. The original movie found humor in the contrast between irony, silliness and sincerity. Today every fucking piece of media you see is ironic. Ironic humor has lost all it's force because there's nothing to contrast it with. There's that scene in the 84 movie where they have the TV commercial. It's funny because it's mocking what commercials were like back then -- they would show serious-looking people trying to appear respectable and sincere so they could sell you a product. That joke could never work now because commercials today don't do that anymore, now every commercial is self-referentially mocking the idea of commercials. You can't recapture the tone of Ghostbusters because the culture it referenced and parodied doesn't exist anymore.
An alcoholic deadbeat mother with an drug addicted 17 years old daughter who inherits the franchise rights to the Ghostbusters, tries to make money off of it and in the end has to team up with her daughters ex-convict boyfriend to save her home village from the ghosts of evil miners sounds amazing. I want to watch THAT movie now...
And the daughter is trailer trash preggant and at the end of the movie it's revealed that the evil ghost villain corrupted the soul of the to be born baby so as it's born at the end it has that evil devious cheesy smile as she's holding it swaddled up rocking it and then the credits roll. That would make room for a sequel.
Ironically sounds too legitimately wholesome for this timeline, where the closest things can get to "wholesome" generally try to manipulate your emotions either through glurge, nostalgia, pandering, or all of the above. Character development seems like a dead fucking art.
@Stella Hoenheim I’ve never had the words to express exactly what you just said but you hit the nail on the head. The fact that studios make the movie to be seen once whereas making a movie to be seen and enjoyed multiple times. The last movies I’ve seen multiple times have been Baby Driver, Infinity War, Blade Runner 2049, and Mad Max: Fury Road. To me the saddest part about all those movies I’ve mentioned though is that Baby Driver is the only original one. I love all those films but there’s such a lack of originality and creative expression with films nowadays.
I still can only think of the Ishtar trailer everytime they say "Pawns!". Especially when Jay says it for the first time. I fully expected a cut to the Ishtar trailer.
Can’t wait for Hollywood to reboot Monty Python and the Holy grail, only to treat it as this great nostalgic masterclass and not just a tongue in cheek comedy.
I can’t wait for Disney to buy the rights to RLM in the 2070s, so I can watch from my deathbed as a CGI Rich Evans builds hype for the 5th soft-reboot of Star Wars.
@@melnickmultimedia Cynicism is what has always driven their channel. They have been spot on with a lot of their reviews, but they forgot how to have fun at the movies.
The reuse to the purple wispy spirits was really nice to see. It was my favorite load in the nostalgia bukkake. Right ahead of the sounds of the proton packs firing up, or the Echo 1 siren.
Film critic, Matt Singer, on Twitter November 16th: "Ghostbusters: Afterlife is like the Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the TV meme for 125 minutes. To be honest, it made me kind of sad."
I morbidly wish we had a terrible early 2000s Ghostbusters with sexy young actors, gizmos and gadgets that look like plastic toys with a shiny siver finish, Nu-Metal soundtrack and the Ghostbusters fight ghosts in trenchcoats with wire-fu.
It really is odd that there's this kind of emotional nostalgia for a silly comedy like Ghostbusters. Like, imagine them doing a teary-eyed nostalgia sequel to Airplane.
There'd be a five minute scene of everyone fondly remembering the "Calm down, get a hold of yourself!" woman as they slap and shake her corpse at the funeral while that Sarah McLachlan song they use for the dog commercials plays.
Airplane 2022, but the twist is that it's set in an alternate timeline where the ghost of Leslie Nielsen prevents a national tragedy. That tragedy? Well that there's the best part pal. Twist ending; we realize that the eponymous Airplane ends up hijacked by terrorists, and is bound for New York on September 11th, 2001. Thankfully, Ghostly Nielsen saves the day with paranormal hijinka
I think Rich hit the nail on the head. The majority of the nostalgia for ghost busters was for the toys and the cartoons. For most kids in the 80s and early 90s, the movie was the smallest part of what they thought when they heard "ghost busters"
"The majority of the nostalgia for ghost busters was for the toys and the cartoons." I think this goes for a lot of things from the 80s and early 90s. Not even the obvious stuff like things that were literal commercials for toy lines (He-Man, Transformers, GI Joe) or things that...basically were commercials for toy lines (Star Wars...this whole thing isn't exclusively George Lucas' fault but he certainly played a big role in it), but even things that were basically one-off R-rated movies that got very meh sequels but also got toy lines and children's cartoons, like Robocop and Rambo. Or heck, even Back to the Future and Bill and Ted. Like compared to my older Gen X siblings who watched the movies when they were in the theater (and for both were basically like "the first one is good, the sequels are dumb") I actually watched the Saturday Morning Cartoons of both and ate the Bill and Ted cereal. So a lot of this 80s/90s franchise nostalgia definitely comes from being kids socialized with hours of cartoons and consumer products. Same with Ghostbusters. My older siblings liked the first movie and still thought it was incredibly dumb. Because it was a comedy. They probably saw the sequel and forgot about it. But they didn't watch the cartoon, play with the toys, eat Ghostbusters cereal (everything had a tie-in sugary cereal) and drink Ecto-Cooler. Like that it's even a franchise held by reverence by people as something from their childhood is understandable but it doesn't really have to do with the 80s movies themselves - it's more from the toys, cartoons and tie ins they were exposed to as children.
I’m 40 I was into the movies and never had any of the toys and never watched the cartoon ....thought that shit was lame n corny no one in the cartoon looked like there characters in the movie
Also, Ivo Shandor being in the cave randomly would indicate he assumed Gozer would have been stopped in New York and he needed to be stored at the second gate
shandor had a cult right? and they have his body in a case like vladimir lennon. they probably realized they couldnt leave their flat dead cult leader in a glass case in a high rise in new york so they put him in a cave/mine/ temple at the alternate location.
I would, no joke, pay good money to see a ghostbusters movie about unionized ghost exterminators fighting for equal pay while supernatural hordes destroy downtown New York. Mike stock is a genius
Nah, that sounds like garbage and I don't need the leftist/liberal union spin. Bad enough we had that in the liberal feminist movie adaptation which was also equally garbage.
"It's like, I imagine somebody taking a CGI version of me after I'm dead and putting me in a commercial of something disgusting." That's unavoidable Rich.
At this point, I consider the Xbox360/PS3 ghostbusters game the official 3rd in the franchise. Played it as a kid and I remember at the time there was a rumor going around that Dan akyroid and Harold Ramis were motivated to do a 3rd movie, but bill Muray was uncooperative. It was a great game with an engaging story. And one of the first games I actually purchased a strategy guide for.
The Guardian's review of this movie had the perfect line: "Here, we can find a damning summary of modern Hollywood's default mode-a nostalgia object, drained of personality and fitted into a dully palatable mold, custom-made for a fandom that worships everything and respects nothing."
@AlcoholicReptileSyndrome and yet when we respect something like the Star Wars trilogy and talk shit on the insult that was the sequels then ‘fanboys are toxic’, give me a break lol
@@yellowcard8100 The thing about Ghostbusters at the first one and from what I remember of the cartoon is was horror with humor in it. I think if they make a sequel to Afterlife they should do one about the Boogeyman (from the cartoon) that legit scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. They could make it so the older more experienced OG Ghostbusters come in and help out. It's fine to have throwbacks, Nostalgia and fanservice cause the older adult fans are the ones who bring in their kids and in turn they become fans themselves. The way this was handled was better then the God awful unfunny and not scary female Ghostbusters.
@@MegaZeta I'd do it... imagine having not just your kids but your great great great great grandkids college funds set up just by going to a few events where people shower you with praise.
"They want health AND dental, both? AND VISION? Tell them they don't have to worry about their health doing this. They're catching ghosts. Ghosts can't hurt you. They're not giant disease ridden sewer rats we're talking about here, where they can catch rabies or something. All ghosts do is shmear their goo stuff on your shirt. Tell them they should be thinking about how they're going to get that goo out of their uniforms, and to stop acting so entitled about this health insurance mumbo jumbo."
@@Lone432345 True but the idea of a Ghostbusters International run by a jaded dickhead Venkman who tries to stop his employees from unionizing is hilariousXD
Yeah, this was clearly the foot in the door for studios holding off sequels till an actor dies, then they license the actor's likeness from their estate and put them in projects they'd never do while alive. The precedent's been set. Next time it'll be all the easier for them.
I read a few of the scripts. It kinda got worse and worse. GB going to hell isn’t a bad idea but should’ve been tweaked a bit. The one with slimers origin was weird.
Watching Bill Murray get more and more degenerate as he brings in scab Mexican Ghostbuster to fight off the worldwide ghostbusters threat while critizing politicians from preventing him from importing cheaper Nicaragians would be amazing. Then at the end when all the old geezers claw their way up the 10,000 steps at Sears Tower or w/e Bill Murray learns absolutely nothing and becomes the new Elon Musk doing blow off Joe Rogan's bald head and they all retire to watch him make everything they worked for a capitalist nightmare. It writes iteself.
@@targetthyself Im imagining it starts with Murray leaving to go to work. His house is like a 40 acre complex and 4 stories tall along with a private rollercoaster park.. the final ghost bad guy feeds off of greed so Murray offers to distract him by letting him feed off his greed. Afterwards Murray has the ghostbusters at his new house and they are all standing in front of it but you cant see it yet. "Yeah I know its smaller but I guess that Ghost really changed me for the better." Camera pans to his new house which is The Vanderbelt Estate.
@@music79075 That's actually great lmao, and the way you paced your comment helped visualize EXACTLY how this would go if it was in a movie, it could've been so good.
Mike has lived long enough to see all of his "loved ones" (i.e. favorite film franchises) die one by one. It's a great watch to see him slip into deeper despair.
I can empathize because I feel the same way. Star Wars sucks now. Star Trek sucks now. Ghostbusters sucks now. Nothing will ever get better. The longer you live, the more things you love die.
@@CraigTalbert I can't wait for them to dig up another decades old franchise to prop up and defile for nostalgic purposes of syphoning money from fans. Here's looking at the next Indiana Jones movie!
I'm only bummed out when the original creators are the ones screwing it up. These movies can't hurt anymore than Lucas on the prequels, Lucas and Spielberg on crystal skull, or Scott with alien. These Ghostbuster reboots will all be lost to time like terminator movies made after 92
In 30 years I’ll be dragging my kids to see Half in the Bag: Another Round and forcing them to play with my Mike and Jay toys.
The Rich Evans toys will all be recalled due to unspecified dangers
*"RLM! I FUCKING LOVE RLM! FUCKING RLM!"*
“Surprise Surprise, it’s Rich Evans in disguise!”
Remember Mr Plinket being a deranged maniac? Remember the gay wedding arc? Remember when they actually had customers besides Plinket? Remember "who wants a pizza roll?" Remember "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE?"
George Lucas and other studio execs remember.
They have the original sets but no Mr Plinkett intro, OH WELL!
No one's ever really Egon.
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@@Kysgarq yup!
Noooo, you phrased it wrong:
No one's ever real Egon
Discrard
I see what you did there 👏 👏 👏
Let's all be honest with ourselves here: The original Ghostbusters ran around with unregulated nuclear devices on their backs for hours every day for years. None of them were ever going to have offspring.
And if they did they wouldn’t look like McKenna Grace and Finn Wolfhard.
Outside of Winston i don't see anyone of them settling down
@@oneinathousand2156 I mean, they might look like Finn Wolfhard. That dude has a face for radio.
But its okay. Egon moved out of the way on the elevator. He should have been fine, lol.
@@dash4800 Finn wolfhard isn't what I'd call ugly in the slightest.
I have an idea for the next Ghostbusters film. There will be four college age kids. There's a nerdy brainiac girl, a preppy model girl, a jock, and a stoner and his dog. They drive around in their van and investigate hauntings and mysteries. It's a work in progress but it might have potential.
That could work. Gonna need a laugh track or this idea will never get off the ground.
I have a name for your idea!
Ghostbusters: the next generation!
That will never work, kids don't like dogs, unless they talk.
I doubt a dumb idea like that could make 14 tv series, 45 movies and 6 tv films
You should add a goofy chase scene that uses some kind of current music.
Bill Murray at this point has two moods; suicidal and Wes Anderson.
...and also regretting his role as Garfield in the live-action Garfield duology
What's the difference?
@@MickHaggs The difference is that with Wes Anderson, he's happy. If Wes Anderson made Resident Evil movies, Bill Murray would be his Mila Jovovich.
@@flibbittygibbitt With less skin-tight clothing and/or nudity.
@@Corbomite_Meatballs I think you meant "more".
Mike nailing it on the head: "The proton packs, light sabers, the fucking Delorean, [were] always in service of a story and characters. And now it's like the opposite; the characters are in service of the tech."
The props can’t demand a higher salary in the sequel; better to anchor to the IP they own outright.
Also think of the endless plastic shit they can sell to the man babies.
On a side not are they ever releasing RLM action figures? Maybe a plinketts house play set?
The fact is, that era of filmmaking is dead and gone, everything now is a CGI behemoth and they only look for the profit centers. Nevermind the fact that ghostbusters probably wont really work in present times, whether with an all woman cast or an all kids cast, they know that the lightsaber and the proton pack were 80s gold that they can sell to kids and adults again. Its so weird how they're basically trying to mind wipe everyone into reverting to an 80s shopping spree, like we're all going to go crazy trying to buy all the he man and star wars figurines at the toy barn.
That's what moron studio execs don't realise. They reason people like the stuff in movies is because they obsese with the film not the bits. That stuff comes after the love for the film to feel more connected. Now they want the connection straight away and it's hollow
@@MegamaXX500 You must only watch massive summer block busters. The best movies I've ever seen have been in the last 3 years. You've probably never heard of them.
As John Carpenter put it, the reason for all of these remakes is because studios save a fuckton of money on advertising when they dredge up a product with built-in name recognition.
cant wait til they ruin the thing again
This wasn't a remake
@@disturbedone8731 It was a remake of a concept from a reboot of a sequel.
@@Corbomite_Meatballs a seaboot
Can't blame Hollywood if it makes them money. People are still running to get tickets for the 7000th superhero movie and all the reboots that can be made of something.
Sadly it's the fault of the audience
"Nostalgia Bukkake" is now forever burned into my lexicon
Mike is such a gentleman with words
Don’t forget the other classic line. Maximum Nostalgia Bukkake.
I got teary eye when I saw Jay's Lightning Fast VCR Repair Jacket, but I ugly cried when I saw all three of the original Half in The Bag cast together on screen.
How can you not, remember Star Wars:The Force Awakens!
Idk I hate when Hollywood use cgi to bring back dead actors.. so uncanny with Rich sitting there
I also got teary eyed when I saw how unfunny Red Letter Media have become.
Especially Mike who turned from one of the funniest guys on youtube into just "the bully". - with nothing funny to say.
In fact my comment is funnier than red letter media today.
@@fyfyi6053 nah lmao you’re the unfunny one here lol more of a kill joy if anything :)
@@Sofnuuy cry
"There are not characters in this movie, there are pawns" is one of the most brutal things I've heard come out of Jay's mouth.
THREW TWO THREE FOUR FOUR TWO THREE AND...
@@shponglemcdongle5387 They were just a couple of songwriters...
THESE MEN ARE PAWNS
I was waiting for someone to mention Ishtar.
Has to be one of the most brutal ways i've seen a movie get reality checked. I've heard the "no character in that character", i've heard the "no development" or "no personality", "rubber duck character", but to outright call them "pawns", i was like, it's already dead, please, mercy.
Hearing Mike say “Ghost” in his Wisconsin accent is what makes this worth it.
I'm from Wisconsin so I don't hear it lmao
Also from wisconsin, but moved to florida. Mike doesn’t have an accent. Not even close
@@joet7580 You hear him say Winnebago?
Wisconsin is that place in news all the time
Haa Vok
Paul Rudd getting chased into the parking lot and then raptured by a literal dog from hell is a relatively generous depiction of Walmart-related incidents, should you have any doubt they had their hands in that scene.
Ha! This is such a good gag!
Lmao seeing my Rich animation in this was a nice surprise. Thank you
Congrats.
Thanks for commenting! I was wondering who made that
Your animation of Rich was great 👍
Your vids look great!
Thankfully that animation will be able to sell nerd crates long after Rich leaves us.
Jay acting like Dan Akroyd wouldn't start taking to strangers about ghosts is almost as odd as Dan is himself.
That's what I thought while watching this. In all honesty that's just what he would do irl
"to be fair, I don't know if ernie hudson ever takes off his jumpsuit in real life."
-jay while wearing his lightning fast vc . . . oooooooh
It’s like the costume department did the wardrobe to match the character!
"Cocaine is sorely missing from the movie."
Honestly this is really what's wrong with hollywood. Too much clout and not even cocaine.
All the good writers have moved over to streaming services, as long as you satisfy whatever oblique set of instructions Netflix or HBO desire of the show you can explore a theme far better on a TV show than a movie.
A lot of movie and TV production moved to Atlanta when they heard there was a huge Coke factory there...
This, with only a hint of sarcasm. At least if everyone was on coke again then ridiculous (but not self-aware) pitches would not only get made but also green lit. The industry's in such a state, it's like they're not even sober, they're off their meds.
They got the child "actors" done right. Groomed them well even.
This is the best and most salient take. The absence of cocaine and it’s consequences have been a disaster for American cinema.
I just watched Fletch again and it’s still amazing but it would be nothing if it wasn’t for the use and abuse of cocaine by Chevy and at least the writer and director.
I love it when Half in the Bag turns into writing multiple better movies than the one they just saw
I don't because then I'm reminded that we live in the reality where the real films came out and they're worse.
"What if she found out she had the rights to the Ghostbusters franchise." is actually a great god damn setup.
Down on her luck single mother with bills piling up finds out that her daughter, Egon's Granddaughter, technically owns the Ghostbusters franchise. So she starts franchising the shit out of *_Ghostbusters nostalgia_* with her help in order to save her and her kids from being kicked out of their childhood home by the bank. Y'know, like a satire and commentary about 80's franchises today.
Everything seems to be going fine. Their house is back, they got a new car and college funds for all the kids. But she starts to go beyond her original goal, feeling the greed, despite her daughter's protests.
They get a guest spot on a late-night talk show where she capitalizes on the nostalgia and anniversaries of the original events of the movie. Brave heroes, one of them her dad, saving New York twice, pretending to have been his protégé while growing up.
Even though she actually doesn't know anything about her father, Egon.
Then suddenly there's a massive ghost event that's threatening New York again or the small town or something. And who does everyone look to for help? Who do they call? The Ghostbusters. *_Her._*
@@MiniMackeroni And the reason for the giant ghost thing showing up is her trying to ring up business, but she awakens something powerful.
@@MiniMackeroni A female protagonist who has normal human ambitions and flaws? Not happening.
Had the biggest crush on Jamie Lee Curtis when i first saw it.
one thing doesn't change throughout the years: i always want to watch movies based on Mike's idea more than the actual reviewed movie
It’s true
You can always trust a cynical movie critic to have better ideas than the executives who usually do the job. Because people like Mike will only suggest ideas that don't make them feel sad and hollow inside.
Need someone to animate them!
Mike devolving into madness is great "Make her meth, alcoholic, drug addicted... Just make them the worst!"
In a far outpammm of the unijammm all these pitches are real blockbusters, ihhosweet hindsight
im so glad they finally made a half in the bag about dune!
It's about family and that's what's so powerful about it.
It broke new ground!
DO YOU REMEMBER!!!! "It's sort of like poetry it rhymes.
Very coool
this a thing now because more funk stay puft toys to buy for money base on this movie
As a child, I only ever watched Ghostbusters on VHS and a crappy 13" tv...I had no idea Peter was passing Egon a Crunch Bar...I thought he was giving him money.
Me too!
@@kamikazetsunami9137 Nah, we never reached that level at my house.
You didn't... But your brain did.
And even though you couldn't comprehend what you were experiencing you understood the first film was a master of art.
Same. I thought I’d missed a bet somewhere, or it had been cut for some reason.
"there are not characters in this movie, there are pawns"
*cue Ishtar trailer*
I have watched many videos about Ishtar but have not brought myself to watch it lol
I thought the exact same thing!
“Three, two, three, four! Four, two, three AND!”
@@samwoodson9603 'They were just a couple of parapsychologists...'
“they were a couple of songwriters”
The Ghostbusters video game from 2009 was basically the real Ghostbusters 3, the original actors voiced the characters and Aykroyd and Ramis wrote the story.
Except for the mute "Rookie" character (aka the player) awkwardly shoehorned in. But yeah, that was indeed the true Ghostbusters sequel.
tbh i think this ghostbusters movie was meant to please people who say theyre ghostbusters fans because they more than likely saw the cartoon growing up more than the movie. basically people my age or slightly older who saw the cartoon and the toys. but what do you expect from Sony?
This is true, although I think they didn't write the whole story. I remember Aykroyd and Ramis are credited with "script doctoring".
And thank God it was just a game , coz it was more of a copy of the 1st movie than afterlife is. Garbage.
Can we all just agree yet that Ghostbusters 2 was actually pretty good? No, it's not nearly as good as the first(one of the greatest films ever made) but if u compare it to GB'16 & Afterlife... it's memorable & a lot of fun.
Mike: This film wasn't enough of a comedy.
Also Mike: Make the grandaughter a drug addict and turn the setting into Rob Zombie's Halloween.
Because it would be fuckn hilarious
The duality of man
@@charlesrense5199 yeah, I'm also from the 90s I've lived and worked with junkie comedies, actually kinda a good time
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 "Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy." - Michael O'Donoghue
Never seen always sunny huh?
I like Ghostbusters 1 for the same reason I like RedLetterMedia. A bunch of cynical men got together for comedic effect. Definitely side with Mike on that.
“If there’s a steady paycheck in it, I’ll believe anything you say”. Great cut.
Solid cut
Snyder Cut
I like the idea of the movie being about kids discovering forgotten tech they don't understand how to use.
It's a metaphor for Hollywood adaptations, sequels and reboots.
10/10 best comment
The little girl sure knew how to use the tech
"If you can use the TikTok, you can use the proton pack!"
@@Corbomite_Meatballs *TikTok text to speech voice* "Check out this devious lick" *camera pans to show a proton back stuffed into a big bag*
@@tadpolegaming4510 I can hear that godawful TTS voice from your comment.
Nerd Crew member: "Do you think a Egon with a proton pack could beat Vader with a lightsaber?"
Alriiiiight! Let’s give it up for the proton packs!
*proceeds to clap for five whole minutes*
@@harvesterofstorms4932 "Very cool. Very cool."
"Very cool."
you could literally ask this on r/whowouldwin
Followup question: Do you think Egon with a lightsaber could beat Vader with a proton pack?
Depends if it’s a ghostbusters or Star Wars movie
"I, like any manchild, have thought about what would you do for Ghostbusters 3"
The answer is a good videogame, a cult classic
The answer for like over twenty years at this point has been "Don't make Ghostbusters 3"
Or Extreme Ghostbusters, which I found fun myself.
Can you Imagine an open world, Skyrim style Ghostbusters game? You run all around New York in a sandbox built around the story cannon.
@Dtaysche I beg to differ. That whole game was written by Reitman, Ramis, and Aykroyd. It expands on the paranormal aspects while also having the cynical funny dialog between all the original characters. Although it being in video game form allows alot of fantastical spectacle which kinda takes away from the groundedness of ghostbusters but is more practical than filming it. Also the game's programing hampers the comedic timing slightly tho I could so easily see the jokes landing well if it were a 3rd ghostbuster film.
They could just continue with the chicago ghostbusters or do what zootfly was going to do with their videogame that was cancelled because the other video game.
Gotta say, I’m looking forward to ‘Caddyshack: Afterlife’ -
Where the grandkid of Rodney Dangerfield realises that golf is in his blood and the Bushwood Country Club is his destiny. Can’t wait for the lingering, loving shots of Chevy Chase’s golf club and Bill Murray’s pitchfork. It’s the heartwarming, rootsy, rural-drama Caddyshack sequel we’ve always wanted.
Oh God, you KNOW they'll do it too, don't give them ideas.
Can't forget about the baby gophers that are there for literally no reason
Then he stumbles into a secret room. And then we got Nostalgia shots of him seeing Rodney's automatic golf bag for the first time.
I'm already crying!
Chevy isn’t even dead, just nobody wants to work with him
I cried at the end of this review. It's the most emotional half in the bag ever done.
It’s about family and that’s what makes it so powerful
I clapped when you cried.
It broke new ground!
I cried at the after credits scene
They totally subverted my expectations!
A movie where Ghostbusters became extremely over-franchised and corporate would be absolutely incredible.
Because it’s already happened
@@gnargoyle9638 Captain Obvious to the rescue
It's a product of reganomics, it would be a logical conclusion.
Similar to what Douglas Adams did with the latter Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy stories.
@@gnargoyle9638 spoiler alert, are this sarcasm or you really saw the second postcredit scene?
Ghostbusters 3 is that one video game where you play the new guy and get stuck in on a interdimensional adventure on your first day.
That was better than the stranger things remake they just did.
You just get done learning how to use a proton pack, and next thing you now you're fighting the grey lady in some alternative dimension library. Crazy first day.
You fight book golems it's magic
That was one of my first 360 games.
Good times man.
"we won't give up our toys," is the most real thing anyone has said ever.
How can we when daddy gets to mad when he has some booze.
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
- 1 Corinthians 13
It‘s okay to still like the toys but forcing them onto each following generation is just annoying as hell. Too bad that making mediocre new movies that evoke amazing old ones is so successful.
@@theviledelinquent3920 I liked Ghost in the Shell, too.
Tell me about it...
I just got myself a C64Maxi and a Retrotink
"I've never been a fanboy, I've liked stuff." - Mike "this reminds me of Star Trek" Stoklasa
Immediately mentions the awful Picard series he hated after he says it too lol.
He’s a purist tho and has a multi-layered personality. Unlike people who completely identify with a singular IP and gave up their individuality
Reminds me of that one episode of _Star Trek: The Next Generation_ where they accidentally create Professor Moriarity
Nah, Mike is a fan, not a fanboy. Mike can call out the bull%^ and inconsistency in Star Trek. A fanboy will deny and head-canon you to death.
Nah, Star Trek isn't Mike's entire personality. That's alcohol's job.
I want to see Mike’s version of GhostBusters 3… “you fired the GhostBusters because they wanted to unionize?” GENIUS!
And then the new corporate guy becomes the Big Bad. Send RLM the royalty check already, Sony!
Ghostbusters 3 was already made. It's a video game on 360. It got a remaster for PS4/PC/Xbox One and Switch.
Ghostbusters: Union Busting
Especially with all the safety shit that’s going wrong in the entertainment industry now, it’d be perfect
"Everyone who comes out says it was a real tearjerker, which is a great sign for a comedy", say what you will about Bill Murray, but the man cut right to the heart of everything wrong with modern media in one knife thrust.
The actual quote is, “Everyone one that has seen it says that they cry at the movie, so it should be an extremely successful comedy.”
Don’t use quotation marks if you’re going to paraphrase.
"Nostalgia bukkake" is the absolute best way to describe this movie.
By the way, the GB3 plot you casually pitched was brilliant and I'm upset we never got that
Same here.
Nostalgia Nut November
“The ghosts, the proton packs..it’s all true.”
“Venkman, we’re home.”
"people only started looking for the ghostbusters after they dissapeared"
@Stella Hoenheim *SNORT*
@@ebi_tempura "Here's a map that Egon left in case we need him. He doesn't want to be found by anyone."
"Somehow, the ghostbusters returned"
@@Wapaz they float now?! They float now.
"We've been saying Betty White jokes for years now. She is Immortal" Really tempting fate here guys.
Oh God
Personally I'm scared for Mel Brooks. He's 95 for crissake!!
That's why Mike had to add Kissinger in there, to counter the jinx
4:31 "There are not characters in this movie, there are pawns, " is not only an all time RLM quote, but an all time quote for cynical movie reviews in general
I don't know "nostalgia is the new cocaine" has a certain ring...
These men are PAWNS
@crackstuntman2261 Thank you!! That trailer started playing on a loop in my head as soon as soon as Jay said that
Bill Murray’s relationship with Ghostbusters today is incredibly similar to Harrison Ford’s with Star Wars
No role is too big, no acting contract is too big
Exactly, “let me off this train right now!”
@@charlesrense5199 the thing is though he likes Indy. He’s said that Indy is his favorite character to play. And he actually looked like he gave a shit about acting with 2049. That scene where he’s looking at Rachel and sheds a tear or when he sees his daughter, he is genuinely great and seems like he cares as well because he gets to actually act. Han Solo just gave him nothing to work with. The reason we love Han Solo is because it’s pretty much just Harrison Ford. Han is one of my favorite Star Wars characters ever but if that was the character I had to play for 40 years, I’d be pissed off too, because there’s not much “acting” with Han. Deckard and Indy have way more scenes of an actor having to actually act.
@@charlesrense5199 or a Presumed Innocent sequel with a cast of CGI versions of Raul Julia, Brian Dennehy, Paul Winfield and John Spencer in a plot actually based on the sequels of the original book in which the same damn thing happens to the main character 20 years in the future.
I think the main difference is that Star Wars got bad cuz of of soulless branding. Harrison Ford got jaded because he saw it coming. Ghostbusters started to suck because Bill Murray killed any possibility of preventing that. Now he's gonna spend the rest of his life getting jerked around by corporate douche bags and he knows it's his own fault.
I love that one RLM show where they sit around and talk about movies.
The Ellen show?
For a looooooooong time
Oh yeah I remember that one
Is this replacing that one show where they all sit around and talk about movies?
I'm glad they talked about Dune during this review of that ghostbusting convention.
So they don’t remember the Snyder cut being discussed in the black void? That’s the most redlettermedia thing ever
The dementia is truly setting
That was an episode of Half In The Worst
Thats also pretty Snyder cut. Not much to say about it.
well let's get this sh*t over with
Dementia is clearly passing between them
RIP Betty White. I can't wait for the Golden Girls sequel where they all come back as CGI ghosts.
The Golden Ghost Girls.
Mike's favorite character: The shiftless alcoholic. Mike's suggestion for the movie: more child neglect.
More like child exploitation in this case. Could be somewhat softened by the fact that the kids don't care bc they're doing what they love anyway -- building ghost hunting weapons and testing them in public. This almost sounds like the OG Bad News Bears.
I know, right? Stop trying to make bleak stories that wouldn't be any fun. Just put on your big boy pants and go to therapy like an adult.
@@AzureKnight2 it wouldn't be bleak, it would be done in a comedic over the top way if done correctly. So I guess it would be bleak
@@peterchrist1945 Some things just don't translate well to humor, IMO. It's extremely hard to make both depressing people/concepts and seeming disdain for the franchise you're going to be a part of fun and/or funny.
Especially when it's super easy to not do that.
@@AzureKnight2 I think Mike's suggestions were absolutely hilarious. It was a dark satire which is exactly what is needed
The sad part is, most of their plot for the hypothetical 3rd film, is what happens in the Ghostbusters video game that came out years ago on the Xbox 360. You’re a new recruit that they are training to open a new franchise and since you are the new guy they give you all this experimental new equipment in case it goes wrong.
And closes up all the Evo Shandor stuff better too.
The Ghostbusters 360 game is the real GhostBusters 3.
There's even a few edits of the game on RUclips to make it into a giant movie. Recently got remastered and it's actually fun to play. Outside the original movie and first 75 or so episodes of the cartoon it's the best thing to come out of Ghostbusters.
That game recently got rerelease on the Switch not too long ago.
Not gonna lie, I was worried it had became as another forgotten license game from late 2000s. It's actually better good.
Yeah that game was awesome. Play control and story and everything
"Nostalgia is the new cocaine." - that made my day.
Slamming nostalgia just doen't have the same impact...
Is it though?
Cocaine gets shit done.
Get sad every time I watch old half in the bags and new ones because they all aged so much :(
@@sanguine2552 that’s what happens lol
At least cocaine can help you write a good screenplay
I hated that the young girl could wear the proton pack with no struggle. The thing would weigh upwards of 50 pounds. Also that the kids put on the Ghostbusters uniform and they fit. The uniforms were for mostly overweight men in their late 30s.
Wait... how the hell didn't i notice any of that. So true what you said, oh my god 🤦🏻♂️
The kick from the energy being shot out would break bones as well. It was not at all kid friendly.
"Our generation will never let go of our toys." -- Rich Evans 2021.
It's the most insightful thing said in the entire video
True statement I do not see old people talk about Casablanca like gen x does about star wars
i grew up watching old bugs bunny and popeye cartoons, so not sure this observation is really unique to 80s era
Can't wait for Casablanca 2 The Revenge of Rick!
The obsession in this culture with movies made for children 40 years ago is deeply disturbing. Plus the takeaway from these films just misses the point.
Speaking of 80's properties that will never die...
Robert Zemeckis has been reported as saying that as long as he's alive, he won't allow a remake/reboot/prequel/sequel to Back to the Future. And the only thing I can ever bring myself to think about is what the standing script and casting list is for Back to the Future 4 that 100% exists that's just waiting in the wings for him to croak so that it can be announced.
Whatever it is, you can bet Chris Pratt or Finn Wolfhard will be in it.
Meet Martha mcfly, played by Daisy Riddly, and professor Emma Brown played by Whoopi Goldberg , as hilarity ensues when this unlikely duo go back in time to fight misogyny and slavery .
Back to the future 4 , directed by Paul Feig
@@badjujubes what do you mean or? They're probably both in it
I would only support a BTTF remake of Marty bangs his mother's in a full ten minute unbroken, Irriversable like, take.
@Stella Hoenheim oh my God. Can you imagine an elderly Michael J Fox on talk shows - looking depressed as shit - trying to sell this movie?
37:28 - Holy shit. That sounds like a vastly superior film idea. The family are sleazily trying to capitalise on the Ghostbuster name the mother now legally owns, purely as a merchandising grift. Then suddenly they're forced in over their heads when it turns out to actually be real. And they need to grow as characters, wrestle with their demons, and save the day as this scrappy, flawed, fucked up family.
Reminds me of that gravity falls episode lol
Holy Shit SovietWomble is here too
That involves emotional engagement with people and not objects, so it wouldn't fly.
The idea reminds me of the character arc of Oda Mae Brown (Whoopi Goldberg) in Ghost (1990) - it would've been perfect for Ghostbusters: Afterlife.
@@sleepybird1 can't sell people as merchandise😅.......🤔
I was really hoping at the end the granddaughter says “No ghost can escape my busting” then shoots Egon and traps him. Cut to the faces of the other original ghost busters with their jaws dropped and Bill Murray says “What the f-“ and it ends
Why is everyone every single comment on here a better movie than the one we got? I don't think I've ever seen that before
No before it ends she shouls also say "that made me feel GOOD."
That would be too smart for them to come up with 😉
Funhaus/Roosterteeth did that in a short skit many moons ago.
"Its ghost bustin time" and then she busted ghost all over the old guys
Dan Akroyd is quoted saying that the Ghostbusters video game is what the third true sequel to Ghostbusters would have been. Akroyd had a part in creating the video game. They basically find an island where all the slime is being produced. It was actually pretty good and interesting. So check it out if you are a fan of Ghostbusters.
The game finally answered the question of where the slime beneath NY came from. Even though GBII tried to tie the slime with Vigo it always felt like they existed separately.
Thanks for the tip!
I mean, I agree with it, but not because Aykroyd said it. Let's face it, he's been desperate to revive this franchise for years. He'll praise anything that has the Ghostbusters brand.
The Ghostbusters game is so chock-full of amazing lore and the story is spectacular. I've always wished it was adapted somewhat into a film and I'll always accept it as the third sequel.
I know I ugly cried when I played ghostbusters the movie the game
"Nostalgia is the new Cocaine." That's a great line and we should put that onto billboards.
Fun Fact: Nearly that exact wording is used in Brockmire when it's explained why they use a MOBA exclusive to draw in baseball fans. Because nostalgia *IS* the most powerful drug.
What’s wrong with a little nostalgia, how else would we ever fondly realise how good our younger years and more innocent simple times in our lives actually were
Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
It's funny how in Watchmen (the series) there's a drug called nostalgia, that literally allows you to relive your memories, and it ends up being banned because people got addicted to it
It already is, just put on your They Live glasses.
"This is nostalgia for ghostbusters merchandise". That was.....perfect. Rich is perfect.
Mike was mean to Rich in this one too, in the beginning called him dumb after interrupting him and then they showed a really awful cartoon caricature of him that just makes him look terrible and doesn't really even look how he really looks like, it's messed up how he was treated in this video, he's a good guy.
@@pl3459 But Mike didn't even edit this one...
This is my favorite Half in the Bag after Rise of Skywalker. Just keeps on giving.
Honestly, I'm really impressed with the CGI technology --
They managed to create a convincing Rich Evans (RIP) for almost an hour of discussion. Bravo.
Naw, he looks totally fake to me.
I’ve been living at home since the pandemic started and my mother can now recognize the sound of Rich Evans’ laughter coming from my phone.
It's granny p orn
@@Knightfall182 Starring grannies or for grannies? Rich Evans IS a golden god.
My wife HATES his laugh and HATES the overly exaggerated montages when they same the same thing over and over like the intro to this one.
@@bennygerow that’s like half of RLM’s content!
@@taylorlconner guess she's about to be the ex wife.
"Nostalgia Bukkake" has to be up there with Mike's greatest ever quotes.
@@ryanjavierortega8513 oh no
I feel like that will soon become the accepted fan terminology for that type of thing.
I got the feeling the movie would be like this from the 2nd trailer. I think that's the one where they showed the marshmellow people in walmart and I got the strongest memberberries vibes. The first trailer was alright and didn't go overboard but holy shit at the 2nd one. I was out after that one.
Hes more into vulcan bukkake.
I always love when Rich is on half and the bag. He’s got good opinions on new movies!
He's not as cynical as Jay and Mike can be sometimes
@@pogcompagni that's because he's the nostalgia freak that they're making fun of in this review.
The CG they used to make Rich Evans younger (23:50) was absolutely seamless. Modern cinematic techniques have made some incredible improvements.
I can't believe they shelled out 3.2 billion dollars for that one shot.
Younger? They were trying to make him older.
@@EmergencyChannel Someone reversed the polarity on the quantum age-inator.
True, they made him look 58 at most, great work.
One of the things that helped the original is that they didn’t play it like a comedy. It just had funny moments that happened. That in itself was a delicate balance done right. There is a reason why the term is “lightning in a bottle”. It’s rare.
That's pretty much the tone of this new film. That's why I found it baffling that one of the guys (was it Jay? Rich?) criticized this film because Ghostbusters was a comedy film. Yes, it's technically classified as a comedy, but it was a movie that took its threat seriously and had funny moments along the way.
@@clintonwilcox4690 'Afterlife' does a great job with the deadpan humor of the original, right up until the tonal shift Mike mentioned, in which it descends into self-larping and exploitative schmaltz.
Yes, Ivan Reitman talks about that in the Ghostbusters commentary. It's EASY to just be goofy (Ghostbusters 2016), and it's EASY to just be serious (Ghostbusters: Afterlife), but to be both at the same time -- comical and realistic -- is a tricky sweet spot to nail.
Die Hard is a good example, it is not a comedy, but has great character moments that make you laugh.
The absolutely played it like a comedy. Just not a lazy comedy.
The original Ghostbusters had a "feel" that modern movies don't have anymore. There's a distinct lack of slick-ness to the original that nobody bothers to replicate anymore, not just stylistically, but tonally. There's no veneer of ironic detachment in the comedy that Marvel movies beat to death, it was just funny. Even if Murray is kind of the godfather of that kind of humor, it comes off way more sincere in the original.
God I miss Harold Ramis.
The thing about the first Ghostbusters is that the Ghostbusters themselves aren't cool at all. They're exterminators. They're all like, 30something balding dudes. They're shlubby and dorky and weird, and they literally never get a moment where they suddenly graduate from shlubs to cool badasses. The idea of badass Ghostbusters just kinda doesn't work, at least with the original cast.
Completely agree. Music has suffered the same fate. Nothing feels authentic anymore, really. Plus the people writing and directing these movies of that era were, and I might get shit for saying this, significantly more creative and talented.
Modern movies lost that feel because sincerity itself barely exists in modern popular culture. The original movie found humor in the contrast between irony, silliness and sincerity. Today every fucking piece of media you see is ironic. Ironic humor has lost all it's force because there's nothing to contrast it with.
There's that scene in the 84 movie where they have the TV commercial. It's funny because it's mocking what commercials were like back then -- they would show serious-looking people trying to appear respectable and sincere so they could sell you a product. That joke could never work now because commercials today don't do that anymore, now every commercial is self-referentially mocking the idea of commercials.
You can't recapture the tone of Ghostbusters because the culture it referenced and parodied doesn't exist anymore.
Why doesn't that exist anymore? Does it exist somewhere? I like that a lot. Hell even the OG Star Wars was a bit like that.
@@chiefchimp2789 Maybe a better way to phrase it is "straight-forwardness." There's a lack of straight-forwardness.
"Nostalgia is the new cocaine.". No truer statement.
Doesn't feel anywhere near as good.
Nah, never was new, people are always on nostalium since the dawn of time.
@@exquize1660 yeah but nowadays it's undeniably the most commercialised it has ever been.
The cut straight to Jay's prediction after the Half in the Bag title was scarier than the entirety of Halloween Kills
That isn't saying much
An alcoholic deadbeat mother with an drug addicted 17 years old daughter who inherits the franchise rights to the Ghostbusters, tries to make money off of it and in the end has to team up with her daughters ex-convict boyfriend to save her home village from the ghosts of evil miners sounds amazing. I want to watch THAT movie now...
* evil unionized miners.
Sounds like a great Rob Zombie film
And the daughter is trailer trash preggant and at the end of the movie it's revealed that the evil ghost villain corrupted the soul of the to be born baby so as it's born at the end it has that evil devious cheesy smile as she's holding it swaddled up rocking it and then the credits roll. That would make room for a sequel.
Ironically sounds too legitimately wholesome for this timeline, where the closest things can get to "wholesome" generally try to manipulate your emotions either through glurge, nostalgia, pandering, or all of the above. Character development seems like a dead fucking art.
I would’ve seen Mike’s plot of ghostbusters unionizing a dozen times in theaters.
@Stella Hoenheim I’ve never had the words to express exactly what you just said but you hit the nail on the head. The fact that studios make the movie to be seen once whereas making a movie to be seen and enjoyed multiple times. The last movies I’ve seen multiple times have been Baby Driver, Infinity War, Blade Runner 2049, and Mad Max: Fury Road. To me the saddest part about all those movies I’ve mentioned though is that Baby Driver is the only original one. I love all those films but there’s such a lack of originality and creative expression with films nowadays.
@@henghistbluetooth7882 cynical huh? And "all nostalgia is bad?" Kind of like exactly how the original ghostbusters was?
I still can only think of the Ishtar trailer everytime they say "Pawns!". Especially when Jay says it for the first time. I fully expected a cut to the Ishtar trailer.
Best comment on this video so far
Can’t wait for Hollywood to reboot Monty Python and the Holy grail, only to treat it as this great nostalgic masterclass and not just a tongue in cheek comedy.
It’ll have a CG Graham Chapman and Terry Jones.
Then at the end it’ll say “For Gray and Terry J.”
There’ll be toy cocnut halves available in your local walmart🤣🤣
Eric Idle does enough of that anyway
I don't see it. Too offensive.
Ugh I literally had this thought the other day as well as back to the future too
I can’t wait for Disney to buy the rights to RLM in the 2070s, so I can watch from my deathbed as a CGI Rich Evans builds hype for the 5th soft-reboot of Star Wars.
Don’t give Disney ideas 🤡😂
I would enjoy that in a cynical way
Can we call them sell-outs for something that hasn't happened yet?
@@K1RTB I mean....would anyone be surprised?
We know what happened when they bought out Blip
@KariIzumi1
I don't know, I have no idea what happened
Holy shit Jay was on fire for this one, it's a rare treat to see him go Plinkett on something
I'll say one thing for this movie: I appreciate that there were more practical effects than I initially guessed there would be.
I honestly liked the movie overall. The Redletter guys just seem too cynical for me nowadays I guess.
@@melnickmultimedia the whole movie is cynical tbf
@@melnickmultimedia Cynicism is what has always driven their channel. They have been spot on with a lot of their reviews, but they forgot how to have fun at the movies.
@@TheVCRTimeMachine Totally agree with you!
The reuse to the purple wispy spirits was really nice to see. It was my favorite load in the nostalgia bukkake. Right ahead of the sounds of the proton packs firing up, or the Echo 1 siren.
Film critic, Matt Singer, on Twitter November 16th: "Ghostbusters: Afterlife is like the Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the TV meme for 125 minutes. To be honest, it made me kind of sad."
Oh god.. the pitch meeting episode for this movie will be 40 times "He/It/this is from the other movie!!!" oO
@@sebastianmanthey742 Very tight!
:|
I morbidly wish we had a terrible early 2000s Ghostbusters with sexy young actors, gizmos and gadgets that look like plastic toys with a shiny siver finish, Nu-Metal soundtrack and the Ghostbusters fight ghosts in trenchcoats with wire-fu.
Matrix 1, but Ghostbusters. I'd like that.
@@mattgottesmann3514 fuck that, give us matrix 2 with Ghostbusters
The ghostbuster extreme animated series was much better and had a diverse cast. The video game also did it better
@@TheZachary86 An Extreme Ghostbusters movie should've definitely come out right before 2000
Soul patches and overly-gelled hair everywhere.
It really is odd that there's this kind of emotional nostalgia for a silly comedy like Ghostbusters. Like, imagine them doing a teary-eyed nostalgia sequel to Airplane.
Delete this comment before Hollywood reads it, and gets inspired.
It’s more like if in 2050 they do an emotional sequel to that 21 Jump Street movie with Jonah Hill. Just insane behaviour.
There'd be a five minute scene of everyone fondly remembering the "Calm down, get a hold of yourself!" woman as they slap and shake her corpse at the funeral while that Sarah McLachlan song they use for the dog commercials plays.
Airplane 3: 9/11
Airplane 2022, but the twist is that it's set in an alternate timeline where the ghost of Leslie Nielsen prevents a national tragedy. That tragedy? Well that there's the best part pal. Twist ending; we realize that the eponymous Airplane ends up hijacked by terrorists, and is bound for New York on September 11th, 2001.
Thankfully, Ghostly Nielsen saves the day with paranormal hijinka
“Nostalgia Bukake” is the name of my next band.
"They won't let it die."
LITERALLY. Harold Ramis actually died and they just brought him back in the computer.
the real ghostbusters sequel will be the fans trying to get the dead CGI cast back into the grave
I think Rich hit the nail on the head. The majority of the nostalgia for ghost busters was for the toys and the cartoons. For most kids in the 80s and early 90s, the movie was the smallest part of what they thought when they heard "ghost busters"
Most "fans" were not even around when the first movie came out
"The majority of the nostalgia for ghost busters was for the toys and the cartoons."
I think this goes for a lot of things from the 80s and early 90s. Not even the obvious stuff like things that were literal commercials for toy lines (He-Man, Transformers, GI Joe) or things that...basically were commercials for toy lines (Star Wars...this whole thing isn't exclusively George Lucas' fault but he certainly played a big role in it), but even things that were basically one-off R-rated movies that got very meh sequels but also got toy lines and children's cartoons, like Robocop and Rambo.
Or heck, even Back to the Future and Bill and Ted. Like compared to my older Gen X siblings who watched the movies when they were in the theater (and for both were basically like "the first one is good, the sequels are dumb") I actually watched the Saturday Morning Cartoons of both and ate the Bill and Ted cereal. So a lot of this 80s/90s franchise nostalgia definitely comes from being kids socialized with hours of cartoons and consumer products.
Same with Ghostbusters. My older siblings liked the first movie and still thought it was incredibly dumb. Because it was a comedy. They probably saw the sequel and forgot about it. But they didn't watch the cartoon, play with the toys, eat Ghostbusters cereal (everything had a tie-in sugary cereal) and drink Ecto-Cooler. Like that it's even a franchise held by reverence by people as something from their childhood is understandable but it doesn't really have to do with the 80s movies themselves - it's more from the toys, cartoons and tie ins they were exposed to as children.
I’m 40 I was into the movies and never had any of the toys and never watched the cartoon ....thought that shit was lame n corny no one in the cartoon looked like there characters in the movie
This was a big thing in the 80`s. They even had toys and a cartoon for Robocop.
@@Grim2 oh yeah I just ment that’s just what the 8 year old me was saying when the cartoon came out I was like wtf?! that’s not bill Murray lol
I think Rich is starting to gain sentience, I think he knows he's a CGI character
Could you imagine if he was a real human being? (Shudder)
Rich Evans is the key to all of this
The pause where he looked frozen. Glitch?
Time for Al Pacino to turn his servers off ;)
Rich Evans: Become Human
"If there's a paycheck in it, i'll believe anything you say." Well played! i laughed super hard.
This was an excellent review of Dune. Glad they liked it!
"Put down the flask, and pickup the proton pack!"
Coincidentally, this is what Ramis yelled at Murray every day when shooting the first Ghostbusters.
Like Jay's amazing intro said: Cocaine was sadly missing during the production of this film
“Nostalgia Bukkake” gave me a genuine spit take.
At least we know you don't swallow, so clean-up is going to be time consuming.
Bustin' makes me feel good.
I feel so funky
Hilarious
Bustin' makes him feel good
Also, Ivo Shandor being in the cave randomly would indicate he assumed Gozer would have been stopped in New York and he needed to be stored at the second gate
shandor had a cult right? and they have his body in a case like vladimir lennon. they probably realized they couldnt leave their flat dead cult leader in a glass case in a high rise in new york so they put him in a cave/mine/ temple at the alternate location.
I would, no joke, pay good money to see a ghostbusters movie about unionized ghost exterminators fighting for equal pay while supernatural hordes destroy downtown New York. Mike stock is a genius
I know his ideas are so much better than the actual movies
equal pay?
Ghosts of union busters.
@@Olkv3D I wish union busters were ghosts instead.
Nah, that sounds like garbage and I don't need the leftist/liberal union spin. Bad enough we had that in the liberal feminist movie adaptation which was also equally garbage.
The cut to Rich whenever someone says "manchild" was a master stroke
"It's like, I imagine somebody taking a CGI version of me after I'm dead and putting me in a commercial of something disgusting."
That's unavoidable Rich.
The Simpsons made an treehouse of horrors's episode about this..
@@RobertJones-bs9pf LMAO. I was going to comment but it would suffer just too terribly compared to yours. Withdrawn.
It'll be for TUMS.
This already happened. The late great Audrey Hepburn was brought back to sell Galaxy Chocolate. It was 2013, its ghoulish as hell.
Ironic coming from a man who made an ad for the "George Foreskin Grill"
At this point, I consider the Xbox360/PS3 ghostbusters game the official 3rd in the franchise. Played it as a kid and I remember at the time there was a rumor going around that Dan akyroid and Harold Ramis were motivated to do a 3rd movie, but bill Muray was uncooperative. It was a great game with an engaging story. And one of the first games I actually purchased a strategy guide for.
Wow, Jay's cosplay of Jay is uncanny.
...uncanny valley
There's Academy talk
He really pulls it off well.
Mike's Ghoaast shirt is almost a cosplay as well
Jay Bauman is Jay in: Half of The Bag. "Guest Appearance by Rich Evans as Mr. Plinkett."
The Guardian's review of this movie had the perfect line: "Here, we can find a damning summary of modern Hollywood's default mode-a nostalgia object, drained of personality and fitted into a dully palatable mold, custom-made for a fandom that worships everything and respects nothing."
Perfectly embodied in the ridiculous quotes at the end.
@AlcoholicReptileSyndrome and yet when we respect something like the Star Wars trilogy and talk shit on the insult that was the sequels then ‘fanboys are toxic’, give me a break lol
Rage channels on yt in shock right now
@@kostajovanovic3711 yes
@@asisin2 the point of that sentence is about a mile above your head. Have some self awareness.
I’ll say it before and I’ll say it again, the true sequel to ghostbusters is the video game.
Because of AVGN I thought you were out of your mind for a bit before realizing that the 3D game existed
@@Tube_Chaser Only the first act was a rehash, once you get past that part the story completely takes on a unique identity.
@@yellowcard8100 The thing about Ghostbusters at the first one and from what I remember of the cartoon is was horror with humor in it. I think if they make a sequel to Afterlife they should do one about the Boogeyman (from the cartoon) that legit scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. They could make it so the older more experienced OG Ghostbusters come in and help out. It's fine to have throwbacks, Nostalgia and fanservice cause the older adult fans are the ones who bring in their kids and in turn they become fans themselves. The way this was handled was better then the God awful unfunny and not scary female Ghostbusters.
@@Tube_Chaser It was based on the scrapped script of Ghostbusters 3.
The 2009 game was based on the script for the third movie.
The joke about Hudson never taking his jumpsuit off made me laugh… but… he’s like the NICEST guy… so you get ONE Hudson joke.
Bless Ernie Hudson. I say, take those convention hall nerds for all they're worth
@@MegaZeta I'd do it... imagine having not just your kids but your great great great great grandkids college funds set up just by going to a few events where people shower you with praise.
Rich saw it coming. He was trying to save Betty White from the Stoklasa curse. RIP
Not all heroes wear capes
First they killed Stan Lee and now Betty White. Maybe they should start political podcasts too.
the stoklasa curse works on everyone but william shatner
What is the stoklasa curse?
@@MotokoKusanagi Anytime he talks about an old actor they die
I now want RLM’s version of the ghost busters. “What do you mean they are trying to unionize?”
"They want health AND dental, both? AND VISION? Tell them they don't have to worry about their health doing this. They're catching ghosts. Ghosts can't hurt you. They're not giant disease ridden sewer rats we're talking about here, where they can catch rabies or something. All ghosts do is shmear their goo stuff on your shirt. Tell them they should be thinking about how they're going to get that goo out of their uniforms, and to stop acting so entitled about this health insurance mumbo jumbo."
If anything like SpaceCop. It probably sucks.
Dental plan!!!!
@@Lone432345 True but the idea of a Ghostbusters International run by a jaded dickhead Venkman who tries to stop his employees from unionizing is hilariousXD
You know it’s gonna be good when they’re in the endless black abyss.
It's the perfect backdrop for these soulless corporate sequels.
Floating in the ether
at least this movie is better then that horrible 2016 movie
@@erainmartinez8175 that's a low hurdle
Harold Ramis said in an interview once that sequels were ridiculous and that he would never do one 😬😬
Yeah, this was clearly the foot in the door for studios holding off sequels till an actor dies, then they license the actor's likeness from their estate and put them in projects they'd never do while alive. The precedent's been set. Next time it'll be all the easier for them.
Ghostbusters II begs to differ with you.
@@lookbovine Not half as good as the first. Strong rose-tinted goggles.
Proof?
I read a few of the scripts. It kinda got worse and worse. GB going to hell isn’t a bad idea but should’ve been tweaked a bit. The one with slimers origin was weird.
"you fired *all* of them?" holy shit hire these non-hack frauds
Hire anyone who actually cares.
Watching Bill Murray get more and more degenerate as he brings in scab Mexican Ghostbuster to fight off the worldwide ghostbusters threat while critizing politicians from preventing him from importing cheaper Nicaragians would be amazing. Then at the end when all the old geezers claw their way up the 10,000 steps at Sears Tower or w/e Bill Murray learns absolutely nothing and becomes the new Elon Musk doing blow off Joe Rogan's bald head and they all retire to watch him make everything they worked for a capitalist nightmare.
It writes iteself.
@@targetthyself Im imagining it starts with Murray leaving to go to work. His house is like a 40 acre complex and 4 stories tall along with a private rollercoaster park..
the final ghost bad guy feeds off of greed so Murray offers to distract him by letting him feed off his greed.
Afterwards Murray has the ghostbusters at his new house and they are all standing in front of it but you cant see it yet.
"Yeah I know its smaller but I guess that Ghost really changed me for the better."
Camera pans to his new house which is The Vanderbelt Estate.
Beautiful
@@music79075 That's actually great lmao, and the way you paced your comment helped visualize EXACTLY how this would go if it was in a movie, it could've been so good.
Mike has lived long enough to see all of his "loved ones" (i.e. favorite film franchises) die one by one. It's a great watch to see him slip into deeper despair.
I can empathize because I feel the same way. Star Wars sucks now. Star Trek sucks now. Ghostbusters sucks now. Nothing will ever get better. The longer you live, the more things you love die.
@@CraigTalbert I can't wait for them to dig up another decades old franchise to prop up and defile for nostalgic purposes of syphoning money from fans. Here's looking at the next Indiana Jones movie!
I'm only bummed out when the original creators are the ones screwing it up. These movies can't hurt anymore than Lucas on the prequels, Lucas and Spielberg on crystal skull, or Scott with alien. These Ghostbuster reboots will all be lost to time like terminator movies made after 92
And lived long enough to be made fun of by Shatner
@@deathsyth8888 You mean like Terminator, Alien, Predator, Die Hard, Highlander etc. What they DIDNT fucking ruined already?
Will Mike's bloodlust for the elderly ever end? How many is he personally responsible for killing now?
I scrolled looking for this comment when he said it
Well Betty white just died, so I'd say he's at fault for putting that bad juju on her.
Chasing Andrew Cuomo’s high score
Only himself if you count the alcoholism
Because it can't just be the old age that's killing them.
13:35 okay a ghostbuster where Bill Muray is dealing with a union strike is something I now realize I need to see