The perfect forest axe? Müller Biber Canada 1000 Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- chopping with a axe which is very affordable
made by Müller Hammerwerk in Austria. I think this is one of the best options for a light forestry axe or as a heavier bushcraft axe. Very impressed with how it can perform and is ideal for smaller trees
You've got good aim.
I like how you take off those branches with one or two blows.
Efficient cutting 👍.
Thin blade also. Goes through them like a machete.
I found out that the Hutafors HY 1.2 has the same size/overall weight, just a bit shorter edge. I guess the Hultafors, is going to be a bit more versatile ( relatevely good on any wood but better on hard ones, can do a bit of spliting too) , while the Biber-Canada probably will perform a bit better on softer woods and limbing with its thiner and wider edge. I just ordered the Biber-Canada, wish me luck, all wooden axes I've ordered, all came with either bent handles, or the edge was so thick, that the axe could only serve as a hammer... Fingers crossed! Tha's my last money, but probably I'll get the Hultafors too, (1 is none 2 is 1 theory) Keep em sharp guys!!!
You got me motivated to finish my vintage 2.25lb axes. The restoration and tuning on the heads has long been complete, but the handles were nowhere to be found. I finally found some smaller handles that looked good and hafted them up. They ended up being about 27", nice and thin. Great size for a forest or camp axe.
I decided to get one of these. Very nice axe. Minimal tuning required.Thanks for the recommendation!
Ben, you're the man!!! Müller Biber-Canada, is exactly as you describe it in this video! I just got it a couple of hours ago!
I have a German made Krumpholz Forest axe, with a proper Hickory handle (best Ive seen/used so far). However, even though it is 280 gr lighter, it feels way havier than the Muller!! I asked a woman, because they can see more details than us men, to hold them both, and asked her which one feels havier. She didn't even think about it, she showed me the 280 gr lighter Krumpholz! That's insane!
Only issues except the rough spots here and there is a 4mm gap in the front part of the eye. I've seen it on other brands too, but never had that issue on any of mine. I search videos, to find a way to fill that gap properly, just for the looks.
Felling axe: Check!
Next is either the Hultafors Felling Axe HY 10-1,2 SV or it's havier brother.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
since you now have a 1kg axe I would get the bigger hultafors hy10 1.5kg head as that then covers all your bases. 1.5kg is good for heavier felling and splitting and he 1000 biber is excellent for smaller wood and limbs. the hy10 1.2kg is a better middle ground but clashes in usefulness a bit with the biber
@@benscottwoodchopper You're right. the 1.5 makes for a better combo, no doubt about it!
Thanks for everything!!
That things a little weapon! Nice vid too, some cool shot angles in there👍
Looks a good piece of kit..all the best Lincoln 👍🤙
Love watching you chop :)
This Axe so smooth
Feels like a pretty good alternative to Iltis, thanks for the video !
Its far better out of the box, so far i prefer it
These guys make a good axe I got the 26” small forest one and love everything about it other than ash handle but it cuts deep and limbs amazing
Great video! Very impressive performance.
Very nice chopping there sir! That axe really glides through the wood. Not sure what those axes would go for in the states, but you sure make it look tempting.
I like that paint job. Pretty cool color on that axe. I like bright colored paint or polished steel because it shows up nice on camera. Nice production on this one; was enjoyable to watch!
There about 75 to 90 dollars is what mine was
Yeah they make them in quite a few sizes 1000/1400/1600/2000g and maybe another in betweener in there somewhere. Range is $75-130 depending on the weight
@@robbieedwards1456 Yes, they make all models in 100 g increments, starting from 800 g ending at 1600, 1800 or 2000.
I like they use power generation form water..from their site..
"Even our ancestors used the power of water to make tools. This tradition is continued today with its own hydroelectric power station. In this way, we supply ourselves with environmentally friendly electricity from a renewable energy source. In order not to disturb the natural ecosystem and to keep the impact on the environment as low as possible, our power plant is equipped with a fish ladder. It allows the fish to continue to move freely upstream and downstream."
Müller also doesn't make the axes the way they are mass produced nowdays, on other companies factories. Their forge is similar to smaller forges,that family businesses usually have where uit's only the blacksmith and his apprentice working, to create the axeheads.
If I'm not mistaken. they also have an extra guy who does the sharpening and that's it. I could be wrong though, but that's what I've seen on videos where you can see how they make an axe and from what I found on their official internet page and catalogue.
Excellent looking tool what wood is the handle? Mueller seem like a pretty cool company too definitely feels like they're having fun with it with their widest blade axe they do.
Hickory, they also do ash
Hey Ben, informative video again! I tried the Bär Iltis 1000g, I guess two weeks ago, also for limbing. I also was impressed by how well it performed, I like it a lot.
As soon as I find a used Müller Biber online I want to try it, too. I'm somehow not into buying new axes 😂
On Mine, the Steel and Hardening is holding up better than on my Prandi Yankee and my ~90 year old Axe made in the next "City."
The first Millimeter of Edge bent on the Old one when i was debranching.
The Prandis Edge bent either from debraching or from a Wrong hit. My technique was unrefined back then so when i made the Fellkerf, the Axe touched the Wood, grabbed and simultaniously the Head pivoted downwards and bent a ~20 mm Portion of Edge. I believe it was this hit, unfortunately i look to seldom at the Edge after Hits.
The Main angle is 14° and 20° 1 mm wide Secondary Angle. I just increased it to ~25-30°.
Because of my curiosity i bent 2 Axes (already fixed) and found the Limit.
If you want to find the limit "be brave" (oh god, this sounds what the girls say today... :P) and grind thin.
For who am i writing this...idk
Great videos! Really enjoying looking through them.
Are there any cheaper alternatives to chopping socks? They're well out of my price range.
Steel toe boots work good enough provided you turn your feet so the unprotected side is not exposed
Hi Ben, incredible video as always. I saw that you recommended the Biber Canada - do you know if it's possible to get the blue-coloured head on a hickory handle or is the blue head only sold with an ash handle? And finally, do you think (for endurance chopping) that a 1200 or even 1400 is suitable? Looking to get my first proper (i.e., not GBA) ax for trail maintenance and have really only worked with ~1000g heads thus far. Dealing mainly with quaking aspen, sugar gum, sycamore, various oak, ash, chestnut, and pine species, and less frequently yellow (tulip) poplar and red maple.
Biber canada in blue goes up to 1000g, can be bought with ash or hickory. Get a biber canada for limbing and light work plus either a hultafors hy10 1.5kg felling axe, or council tool dayton 3.5lb and rehangon a 30" for heavier chopping
Hi Ben - you don't happen to have a model number for the Muller axe, they seem to make a few with that name. Also, I assume that you re-profiled/sharpened it? Many thanks for this video, the axe looks like one I need to get.
1000 gram, they also make a 800 gram in the canada pattern. Other models are called biber (without the canada part) in lots of weights and wider edges
Thanks Ben, I'm looking at Radmore and Tucker, they seem quite reasonably priced, with a few good models.@@benscottwoodchopper
@@edwinmason123 funny thats where i got mine
Very nice video. How does this compare to the Ochsenkopf Canada? Looks like it could be the same head.
its very similar but a bit thinner. out of the box the Muller is way nicer
Hi Ben and thank you for this video. I have been looking for an axe of this category for general chopping, small scale felling and limbing to use in combination with a bucksaw and which I can also take on bushcraft trips in the winter. It has to be affordable.
I hesitate between the Agdor Montreal pattern with a 28'' handle/2.5 lbs head and the Adler the Rheinland axe with a 27.5'' handle/2.75 lbs head. I live in Canada and they are both easily available here.
Do you know any of these axes? Which would you pick? Do you have another suggestion for something similar?
Cheers!
the montreal is a nice axe, Owen jarvis has one i tried
Thanks!
Was wondering about replacment handles.....with the "d" shaped eye...Can you shave down an oval eyed axe handle to fit? I live in the US and all the replacement handles ive seen (big box stores) are for the oval eyed axes
Both the ochsenkopf iltis canada and muller biber canada have oval eyes.
Thanks Ben....i just ordered a canada 1000 classic.
Hey Ben, how are you? Is that green Willow you are chopping? This axe looks similar to a 2.5lb Ochsenkopf Axe I had a few years ago, perhaps, with the exception of the very thin bit of the Ochsenkopf. I recall the axe had a 26" Uvex Haft. The axe could chop well but stuck hellishly. Best Wishes, Chris
Its muller's version of the ochsenkopf iltis canada 1000. The muller is slightly thinner. I find that flat grinds with a micro stick less, racing axes have that grind style and that helps a lot.
Yes green willow
@@benscottwoodchopper Unmistakable squeak of axe in Willow, reminded me of working with my dad on a nature reserve pollarding and coppicing White Willows and Crack Willows. I will soon be getting back to work with the axe, I had two consecutive injuries with a torn Trapezius...bloody painful!
Is the case that if one went for a 1.2kg Iltis, it could do the heavier work? Or, is the head shape bit suited?
I'd go for the 1000 gram, the 1.2kg is good also just a little bit too wide to buck on the ground and its a bit nicer to swing
What kind of wood are you usually cutting when you test the axea?
Lee Gibbs
in this video its all willow but other videos many different woods
Looks like a good'un.
I know you don't like the heavier felling axes, but I'd love to see you use the Müller Biber that they make in 2000g. Would be interesting to see how this axe performs when scaled up to that big 6lb one
I think scaled up it would be less useful. These axes are very thin profiled and abigger version would stick too much compared to wedge shaped heavy axes
So how would you grind the bigger ones like 1400 and 1600g?
@@robbieedwards1456 grind them thin as you dare
Nice vid, did you change anything to the handle? Yours looks thinner with no paint/varnish vs what’s advertised on Muller website ?
Yeah i thinned it down a bit with a rasp
On Muller's page, the photos on both Hickory version and Ash version of the Biber-Canada, are the same and it's the Ash handle version. The Hickory handle version, has red paint on the bottom of the handle, while the Ash version, has yellow paint. Both have the same length and shape handle and exactly the same head painted blue.
Would this axe be good for felling 10-12" conifers, or would I be better off with the 1300 gram version?
Personally i think stick with the 1000 gram
Really nice axe!! Great demo thx!
its a basque axe
Might get one and slap it on a faithful 😅
Get a wide one and hang it on a larrikin handle
@@benscottwoodchopper aids
Excellent. Not sure how I feel about an axe video that doesn’t feature a Gransfors! Can it be? 🤠 I have my eye (the one that works) on a Muller and a Bison. Just not doing much axin’ now. But nevertheless, thanks for posting about the Muller and showing it off with some good shots. (Did your camera fall over in this one? Don’t think so...)
🙂
For the US would you recommend this over the council tools boys axe?
the mueller is more specialised for limbing whilst the council tool is a bit better if you want to split as well as chop
@@benscottwoodchopper Thank you very much
Why is that axe better than the ochsenkopf iltis canada 1000g? Aren't they very similar?
They are very similar, this one is a little thinner and far less work out of the box
@@benscottwoodchopper OK, thanks
The Irish used to use axes for warfare back in the day. Some English man commented that they could cut off a man's leg with one blow "right handily". I reckon you could do it just as handily Ben 🤔
Yeah probably could, thats why i wear my chain mail. I fell down a small flight of concrete stairs when i was younger and ended up with 13 stitches in my shin from essentially a 90 degree blunt edge. Hate to think what fighting with sharp axes woulve looked like
Robert The Bruce also comes to mind.
Split the head of an English knight and along with it, his helmet.
ALL cultures used axes in war.
@@paulhomsy2751
True, even in Italy also.
Did you only use a file to get it that sharp? Any whet stones at all?
Curious on the file......
Great demonstration, you make it look so easy.
Do you keep this one in a sheath?
Yeah file only. Its the angle that matters most
And yes i keep all my axes covered when not in use
@@benscottwoodchopper my I ask what sheath you use for your Muller Biber?
@@benscottwoodchopper
Thank you Ben for all your videos. Hopefully this summer you will be entering into another challenge......Stihl??
Need to check the calendar and see. Hoping a competition will be in Holland as I am booked for a trip there this summer
@@keg9850 my gf made one out of scrap leather
Is there any difference in performance between the canada and the euro head?
Euro is just wider
Is it better than the ochsenkopf iltis?
Hey，What are you going to do with it?
Ill keep it for a while and chop with it, its a great axe
hello what is the name of the axe
How was the hang?
Stayed tight, not sure how your climate might affect it
Well hung and tight 😂
Please, what's exactly the specs of this axe ? Please
1kg, 70cm handle, 12cm edge length
@@benscottwoodchopper Thank you very much!!!
Is this similar to a Stihl 1926?
thinner geometry than the stihl 1926 which is also made by muller
@@benscottwoodchopper Thinner at the bit?
@@PencilProper yeah pretty much the entire blade is thinner
@@benscottwoodchopper Cheers. And I thought my 1926 was very thin as is 🤯
Too bad many People still buy GB instead of Müller. But obviously less because of the even more obscene Prices GB is wanting.
I didnt look for 1 Year at the Prices and just recently saw them...my God...175€ for this PoS Forest Axe!?! Was it not 125€ a few Years ago? I dont remember.
If i see someone with a GB i know hes probably a Hipster or like Women, who put more Value in AeSthaeTics than Fuction! xD
Come on Guys, Axes are there to be used and be functional and not be hung by this also stupid Hole in the GB Handle!