Zach Lowe's REACTION to Klay Thompson going to the Mavericks | The Lowe Post
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Zach Lowe and ESPN’s Kevin Pelton discuss the Klay Thompson sign-and-trade to the Mavericks, the state of the Warriors, potential moves for the Lakers, the Cavaliers re-signing Donovan Mitchell, and the top 3 free agency winners.
0:00 Klay Thompson to the Mavs
24:06 Sizing up the Warriors
35:27 The Heat made a move
37:51 Lakers' offseason
50:26 Cavs re-sign Donovan Mitchell
1:03:45 Lull in the trade market
1:06:43 Celtics are for sale
1:10:20 Kevin Pelton's Free Agency Olympics
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Klay is gunning for the 3 point title, for sure! Dallas will be a fun team next year.
Yeah got a great chance at it if he gets the green light like he did at gsw. His career down season this year was still higher than the league average and ended up 4th highest made 3's. The year before lead the league in 3's and wasn't even his most efficient season. Hard to out shoot Curry tho.
Yes
@@voongnzhe's also going from being the 2nd to the 3rd option this year and that will open him up for a lot of shots. Also being the 3rd option takes a lot of pressure off of klay as opposed to last year. He won't have to deal with double teams so he can relax and play his game
I can imagine if they double defend kyrie and luka and klay is open he can shoot a lot of 3´s
What three point title? Most threes in NBA history? Klay has no shot. Most threes in a season? Still no shot because Luka will shoot more of them lol
The media takes a big fat L with donovan staying. Love to see it
He ain't staying for long 😅
Everybody love to play victim
@@aguac4te yall moving the goalpost now? They said he was leaving NOW. Thats the only point
I'm just a casual fan but Zach sees the game the same way I do. He always has excellent guests and gives a warm forum for experts like Pelton to shine. Excellent pod and consistent.
Rather then the side of the ball thinking of klay shooting when open because of kyrie and Luka driving and getting attention. What about the side of the ball thinking of klay's man staying home because of his 3, and now kyrie and Luka get to the bucket more! Either way, good addition for dallas.
Yep and also takes away the game plan the Celtics had which was to just live with players not named Luka and kyrie shooting above the break 3s
@@thatguy4354 you're assuming that Dallas will get to the finals again lol. They'll have a tough time on D since those three are barely serviceable when defending. Though if all three of them will go off every night, that will be though for any team, but I think only Luka will be the only one consistent out of the three.
You clearly have not been watching Luka and Kyrie lock players for 3rounds .you just watched some finals highlights@@cranehero11
Yea I think this has the potential to be the biggest effect, just a little easier for Luka and Kyrie.. But if he's not hitting those threes in the high 40's teams will cheat off him a little simply cuz he won't have the volume to make a huge difference.
Great podcast. Thanks from Australia. 👏🏼
Klay's demise is vastly overstated. If you watched the games, you didnt see a washed up guy, you saw somebody pressing in a new offense that didnt feature him anymore
100 % agree. I think it’s in coaching to create off ball actions.
WRONG, if it’s one thing Warrior’s fan know is playing good team basketball and Klay was messing up the flow and chemistry by playing selfish basketball
What's crazy is, Westbrook averaged 18/7/7 off the bench but he was washed playing with LeBron. Klay providing less production overall, in a starting role, "isn't washed" smh
@@krysis54 Klay still shoots 38% from 3. He's still very good at what he does. Westbrook was getting those numbers on poor efficiency.
Yeah he's not an all defensive team caliber defender but hes not bad and a down year was him shooting 39% when they weren't running plays for him. When he's got actions with Kyrie and Luka while the other is on the bench they are gonna run a lot of those screen actions to free him up to keep him engaged. I think early there will be some struggles but by Christmas I expect this to look like a top 3 seed in the west. OKC, Denver and Minnesota all still look like contenders so a top seed is far from assured since we turned over more than any of those.
Time for another Zach/Bill crossover pod. I could listen to those 2 dudes talk hoops for 10 hours straight.
Nope, hard pass
Sliding glass moment on Bill’s career, he runs the NBA hamster wheel
Hell to the no.
Zach seems to be one of the few at ESPN that knows basketball.
The hardest pass
Zach your Golden State commentary is spot on. It has been a great run for these guys, but what a soap opera.
Klays about to revive his career in Dallas like Kyrie did
Thanks Zack.
Jesus Christ the stupidity by the guy on the right. THJ who is 33 was traded for Grimes who’s 24 which is Josh Greens replacement who is also 24, swapped out DJJ who is 27 for Naji who is 26 and traded Josh Green for Klay who is 34 they literally got younger and better in 2 of the swaps and Klay is miles better then THJ. The mental gymnastics this guy tried to do like the Mavs just traded all their youth is hysterical. There are only 3 guys on the roster who are over 30 who get playing time Kyrie, Klay & Maxi ( which I’m expecting them to trade now due to Omax the guy they drafted last year ) the rest of the roster is 26 years old and under.
Kevin Pelton is the dunce who graded the Kyrie and Gafford/PJ trades a C- and a D
Thj was awful and josh green was a huge disappointment whose contract now sucks at 14 per for a guy that only shows up 50%
Why do you expect omax to play next year lol?
@@kpNov23 Reason I expect him to play is because they didn’t sign or trade for a PF and we all know Maxi will only play 45 games at most. My expectation is Maxi and Hardy get traded for another piece off the bench and my guess it would be a bench PG who’s in the mold of Spencer but with better defense.
@@Mr.Thomas_Anderson That was the whole media outside of Nick Wright and Tim Legler. The media is terrified that Klay will be back to himself ( which imo he will because go watch 23-24 highlights and then 22-23 highlights ) and look at the drastic difference. IMO I think Klay’s head was already out of GS before the season started because they disrespected him with that offer of only 2 years but just paid Draymond etc.
Why is no one talking about Kay’s last 2 playoff close out games He went 0-10 unless y’all are saying he was so upset that he tanked our chances. I believe his attitude effected the locker room
Klay went from one dynasty to start a new one. Luka kyrie klay wow!!
Why do people call teams dynasty’s before they won a single championship?
Zach, thank you for talking about our Cavaliers
Just cause of you i did!!! Told a crowd at the mall, "english or spanish " abd forced them to watch it entirely lol
People talking Klay to Lakers like the players are not human. How in the world is gonna Klay team up with Lebron and having eventually the chance of kicking GSW out of the playoffs to win a ring? He not a snake. He'll do that anywhere but with Bron. It's just about class and loyalty.
Curry, Brandin Pod, Wiggins, Draymond, and Lauri is a contender starting 5.
Confidence is the foundation of shooting excellence. When you lose your confidence, it becomes very stressful internally to deal with.
Yes! Shout out Kevin Pelton for putting respect on New Zealand's name. 2002 FIBA World Champs, we got 4th in the world with now Nets GM and former Spurs backup backup at Centre. Our second NBA player, Kirk Penney, played a total of 6 games for the Heat and Clippers. Yugoslavia won the gold, Argentina's golden generation the silver, Germany (with Dirk) Bronze, New Zealand 4th, USA 6th! (Paul Pierce leading scorer, Baron Davis ran the point, and aging Reggie Miller shot the long ball. Kiwis lost 89-78 to eventual champs Yugoslavia in the semis. Magical time as a kiwi hoops fan!
The Tall Blacks will rise again. I remember this as the high point of New Zealand basketball (with an American coach) and the low-point for then USA. Or maybe 2004 Olympics where they got the Bronze (Iverson, Duncan, Wade, Lebron, Melo).
zach talking about football was hilarious hahahahahah love this guy!
Did they talk about Sergio LLull? Wasn`t that a topic in the timline? Did i miss something..?
Playing with luka and kyrie is going to be a big adjustment for klay ... coming from a team with ball movement.. now watching luka and kyrie pound the rock
Who says no: Markkenen for MPJ and picks? the question is how much better does that make the Nuggets
In that situation the jazz probably say no. Denver's picks arent really worth alot because they are guaranteed to be late in the round
They would be better off trying to get laker future 1sts
Klay could create a lot of space by staying above the break and catch people cheating on Luka. Their inability to create space with that hurt them against the Celtics.
Won't matter. Celtics play the ball handler straight up and stay home on shooters. They weren't afraid of Luka or kyrie, klay isn't beating them
I disagree with one particular point you made. I don't think it WAS a savy move by LeBron to broadcast to the world that he was willing to take a pay cut. Most of us are skeptical when someone tells us they're doing a good thing, and the amount of hate LeBron is getting for it now is testament to that. Now if he's told Rob Pelinka and the Lakers that he was willing, but told them to keep it on the Downlow, then it got leaked out at a later point, he'd have been a hero either way. But because he told us all BEFORE, now he just comes across as trying to make himself look good, and not even coming up with the goods in the end. So now him and Rob both look bad. Just sayin.
GSW should trade Kuminga for Lauri if they must.
Lauri does everything Kuminga can do, he's a much better shooter and he's 7ft.
Wiggins is proven to be good enough at the 3.
Don't let Nostalgia bring your entire team down, he'll always be a Warrior but right now they need to Compete!
Saying “the Warriors are better now” is just completely delusional. No way they even make the playoffs.
Why can't they be better? At this point, De'anthony Melton is a better fit next to Curry than Klay was. Not to mention they didn't even make it out of the play-ins last year. The bar's not that high
So this guest didn’t watch the Mavs in the playoffs??? PJ was on Kawhi/PG13, Jaylin Williams, KAT and Jayson Tatum in the playoffs, DJ took the smaller top scorer and PJ took the bigger one
DJJ was on PG13 and Shai. Kawhi was not that guy, even if PJ did well on him (also, Maxi guards guys like him well). DJJ was the better poa l, let's be honest. I also think the fact that him and PJ are two different types of defenders helped give options. Naji and PJ are both strong guys, neither as quick as DJJ. They can work no doubt, but we'll have to see. Also depends on the lineups. Can't have PJ guard guards when no one else can guard the 4 on the other side (eg Naji or Maxi not on the floor at the same time)
Gafford, Maxi, PJ, Luka, Ky (or Klay) might be a worthwhile lineup to try.
@@darkvader2024 you said exactly what I did😂 DJJ took the smaller top scorer and PJ took the bigger of the two. He was always matched up on a top 2 offensive player and when the bigger one is the 1a he took him. Plus Quentin Grimes is just as quick and actually bigger than DJJ
Great point by Zach stating that after OKC signed Hartenstein no team has ever been in better current/future position. Besides their superstar under contract, 2 emerging Stars, 6 of the top Role players, a war chest of Draft picks & prospects. A rabid fanbase & a new bldg coming. On top of that, they have the best 'vibes' in NBA. They also have the reigning Coach of the Yr(& runner up COY yr before that). Sam Presti who built it all. The 'vibes' aren't just talk(or barking). SGA sat through 2yrs of rebuilding because he heard Presti's vision & trusted him. Isaiah Joe & Aaron Wiggins took team friendly deals
"Swapping out Josh Green for Klay makes them significantly older." I don't agree with this assessment. You can't look at that trade in a vacuum. Klay essentially replaces THJ's role (before he fell off a cliff mid season), Grimes replaces Green and Naji replaces DJJ. If you look at it like that they're essentially in the same position age wise
When did DJJ become an elite defender?
Klay Thompson will have about 5-6 wide open threes every game, and 3-4 semi open threes, Luka just creates havoc in the pick and roll.
Klay moving off the ball, Luka and Kyrie getting into the lane drawing double teams, Klay going to feast.
0 mentions about jokic being a cone on D in last playoffs?? Best in the world they say, no matter what
It's too early for tiers... here are my tiers
What makes the Bucks that much more worrisome than the Nuggets who keep losing proven players
Klay is a great-great fit in dallas
Mavs were 17 percent on wide open 3s. Klay is a 40 percent 3 shooter. Harris I heard was as good as Jones.
This is one of the few Klay trade breakdowns ive seen that actually runs through the risk factors eloquently. Yes Klay will fit in to their OFFENSE seamlessly in theory, but he will need to be excellent in a new role at his age and general decline. You also are admittedly giving up defense for offense if your the mavs on a team that just had a title run based on the defense making huge strides. It's a risk no matter how you cut it. Could pay off, may blow up in their face... This is the first podcast ive really heard at least from the big market players that puts it in to proper perspective.
Wishing Klay the best, I can see why it could work out very well, I just think in todays NBA you need ELITE wind defense to truly contend and there is no way around the fact that they just got worse there - and this is a team that already had some big wing defense question marks to begin with.
They made the Finals then Celts D plan was "no one hits a shot except Luka."
Klay majorly changes that dynamic. Teams gotta gamble when you're within a couple bounces of winning an NBA championship and there have been much worse gambles than taking 4x NBA champion Klay Thompson as your 4th, maybe 5th, best/most important player.
@poorchris
I think the defense is kinda overblown. The worst-case scenario is Klay becomes THJ 2.0. Can't hit the broad side of a barn, and is a cone on defense. Klay loses his starting spot and is relegated to garbage time. Dallas literally just went to the finals with him on the team.
Best case scenario Klay shoots 40+% from 3, and plays good defense.
I mean where is the down side?
Its now no point of talking about the lakers when talking about klay now. Now lets talk about how klay helps his new team. This is like the only segment who has done this
Remember..... Nico is not done yet, but may be for now.... he'd really like to dump Kleber at some time and add that extra $4M on anther upgrade for $15M@yr.... Nico is DA MAN!!! ... and as for Klay, all he has to do is stand in the corner and he will get more respect than DJJ did!!... but i feel certain Jason will find plays for him as well.... Jason loves to experiment sooo....
Why you would ask Kyrie to be a POA defender for 25 mins per game lmao. There is a thing called staggering mins.
DeRozan is getting pushed aside it seems in the modern NBA. Still a top 20 scorer and can create for others.
Wiggins father has a serious medical issue why he has been absent so much. But my father had colon cancer stage 4 and i continued to work and my performance at my job never faltered. If anything, it got better. Life happens, excuses are like buttholes. Everyone has one.
Thats BS. I disagree. Work is important but family should always come first.
@@christopherpaul7588 Lets speak generally, 99% of the world cannot take as much time off for a scenario like that as an nba player can. One still has to maintain a living and earn income. Lastly, the flesh part of life, is not the only part.
You have flaws.
the defense won't matter if we just make more 3's then the other team
I can see OKC again being the 1 seed but the playoffs is a different game. It's a you gotta see it to believe it situation.
Grimes is the same player as Green.
Lowe! Ware is elite. Walker kessler with a handle and a 3. Maybe a little more derek lively
I am convinced this Pelton guy has sth against the mavs. And to be honest his grades overall are horrendous
Dude has no idea what he is talking about. Mavs didn't have pj Washington until after the trade deadline. The mavs had djj since the beginning of the season. More to the point, they got Naji marshall to replace djj.
$20M a year with LA was good
GS offer Klay $40M per year.
Klay took $16M a year with Dallas
Stupidity
He clearly wants to win, LA and GS are going no where
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
GSW offered $24M per year. Not a tax expert but I think it works about the same 16M in Texas vs 24M in California. Maybe it’s a little more net pay in Cali but they way the treated Klay, the writing was on the wall.
Nah orlando should have gotten bronze. Got kcp and resigned most of their FA
Correct klay isnt the locker room problem like Dray is. But he serves zero offensive role when he cant hit a shot and cant guard anyone. Wiggins is at least the best defender on the team and draymond doesn’t hyperventilate when he cant jack a 34 footer
here your azz go
MAXI KLEBER is not dependable
Can not score more than 8 points
Can not consistently make a 3
How can an NBA player hit the side of the backboard when attempting a corner 3?
Manchester United, not City
Ummm. It doesn’t matter how Klay’s defense is on the Mavs. Teams gonna target Luka, so Mavs are going to be just great at offense and average on defense
It doesn't matter? You serious?
They were talking about Warriors making the top 4? Whaaat LMAO
They will be good this year. Steph is still elite. Kuminga and B Podz will probably play even better than last year. They were both great.
Can Luka teach Klay the step back three?
You don't think Steph has a stepback?
Spurs will be a bottom 5 team. They still have a terrible roster.
Scronny bronny james has a lot of work ahead of him. Wish him luck
Scronny?? Is that supposed to be scrawny**😂
At the rate team prices are growing, isn't this getting into bubble territory?
How does Wiggins, in these days of prying eyes and internet sleuths, conceal a “personal” problem, that seems to coincide with his drop off in play from the public???🤔🤷🏾♂️ I don’t care to know his business but DAM’ this is over a year now. Right???
Bro who do yall think Klay is lmao he shot 0/10 in an elimination game and was benched for a rookie all year
Comparing JJ Redick to Klay Thompson is crazy business.
How?
Klay and whatever other dudes the mavs brought in are not making a difference for that team. They were good in the second half of last season because they played D and their starting group will be much worse on that end this season. They're not finishing atop the West but you can't count them out of making it through, but they're not beating the Celtics
Luka might average 11 assists with Klay on the team.
Never gonna watch it when Pelton is on. His trade analysis and grading is just horrendous
Klay will find himself again in Dallas
people need to stop overrating Denver
Lost all respect for Zach when he named Man City as a global brand
The warriors are really not going to get a real center in todays nba?wow
Wiggins was more of a problem than Klay, the last two seasons. I'm saddened by Klay leaving and the Warriors not moving on from Andrew Wiggins. | Luka looking kinda fat(ter) and seems to have been drinking his fill of brewskys in retaliation for his GM taking his beer away after the WCF. 🤣
Teams didnt underperform in 2023 what a bs line.. Lakers got the best match ups much like dallas did this year.. Dallas couldn't have beaten Denver.. And if talking under performance we can look at the shooting by okc who otherwise beat dallas on normal shooting splits
Disagree with Drymond being a great player in any eco system on any team. He’d be out the league if he was on a different team.
No respect for lacob. He paid for 2015-19 gsw but not 2022. Gsw didn't stay by anyone after winning 2022 ring and 800 mil revenue. Gave pay cuts too poole/wiggins Stall extensions green/kerr none klay/myers. Last summer trade poole & 1st for cp0. Planned 70+mil expirings. If he doesn't have enough money (doubt it), then pay everyone and sell the team like the Celtics. All time respect for current celtics owner.
Am edging rn
What is with these weird edging comments I keep seeing?
@@Earl_E_Burd idk, Im just edging
What are the personal reasons that wiggins became bad?
Marshall and Grimes will do the heavy lifting and dirty work on defense. Thompson is a nice bonus. But they dont need him on defense. He will help them on offense with his spacing. He will replace the scoring when Ky or Luka are missing time.
Lively and Gafford need to develop some post moves. Dallas needs to be dominate in the paint, instead of Luka and Kyrie driving to the hole.
That would help a bit🤷🏾
Lol 13 legit teams in the west 🤡 even if that was true there are only 4 teams with legit championship aspiration. He's counting teams like the rockets Spurs warriors Lakers kings suns and clippers. These are average teams that can get beat bye any team in the east on any given night
This Might Be A Random Question But Is Kevin Durant Better Than Tim Duncan?
On offense sure but not overall as a player on both ends and a leader
@@jjabbas9790 I Completely Disagree With That He's Better Overall Than Tim Duncan Bruh Stop The Cap My G
no
No
@@davidkamm6110 Yes He Is Better Than Tim Duncan Stop It Bruh
Geezzzz way too long. Hard pass.
Maybe 15-20min long vid.
I keep telling my friends that we needed more of Kyrie with the ball in his hands creating for others. Faster guy faster offense means more opportunities to go in and out, bringing the defense ala JJ Barea when he change the whole strategy of Miami on defense and help Dallas win the championship
With a small guard running around guys squeezing through bodies like butter.
Trade Kuminga for Markkenen. Four 1st-round picks are not much if you compete and fill the seats another four years. The Warriors own their stadium. They have to let Ainge bend them over.
To be fair, I don’t think 4 picks are enough even with Kuminga. Ainge made it sound like he wanted at least 5 picks since that’s what Bridges went for. But I guess it depends just how badly he wants to trade Lauri Markannen. I personally don’t think it’s a bad idea though
@SquidysTents How can Utah say no to five 1st-round picks plus Kuminga and who? The Warriors owe that area. They have to compete. Oracle fans would've filled the stadium regardless but not in the city.
The warriors dont have 5 let alone 4 picks to trade .
@@michelazzam173 Trade 9 picks lol
@@michelazzam173 They obviously have to trade Wiggins for the trade to work. I think it is happening, though. Why would Buddy Hield take $9M otherwise?
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Lol Heat
I heard Zach got with Malika what a legend
And Chiney at the same time. Ultra legend.
Lowe is awesome who tf is this wet blanket with him?
We all know we’re due for another Kyrie meltdown about some racial/polticial/relogious/social issue.
Klay is a spoiled, ungrateful and entitled athlete. He isn't a victim of nothing. Crybaby Klay.
I hate Klay Thompson.
the jazz need to tank and go all in for cooper flagg. hes a white guy as well so hell fit in with the new dude who got groomed buy his mormon gf.
Nobody watching this whole vid
Wrong.
These fellas have far better insight than SAS or Bperk or RJefferson or Sharpe etc..
Not everyone is sucking on NYC and LA.
I am
Been waiting all day for it 😂💯
I'm going to watch it even harder now
@@mrpzpdxsounds like ur racists or prejudice😂 cuz you only named black men
They act like djj was an all star
Wolves winning the ship