Producer Butch Vig - Pensado's Place
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2015
- Producer/Drummer Butch Vig (Nirvana, Garbage, Foo Fighters) joins Dave and Herb at the Avid booth at NAMM 2015!
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Herb has something stuck in his crack @ 9:40. Needs assistance at 9:58.
It's cool to know that someone cool can come out of Wisconsin... that gives me hope being raised in Door County!!
I loved this so much
I need to re-listen to this records!
Butch is such a cool down to earth guy. and he always has something interesting to say. very underrated dude by 'mainstream'
I was there! What a great time seeing Dave and Herb at the NAMM, the Avid booth was the best place there....
One of my college teachers brought me here , awesome !
Amazing show .... enjoyed every second...:)
finally, thank you!
This is really interesting stuff from a legendary producer and drummer. I have listened to Garbage here and there in the past via radio and the Play Station video game Gran Turismo 2. I am going to explore their catalog.
Oh, man...Two of my favorite people in music production.
Three counting Herb. Sorry buddy.
It's about time we got Mr. Vig!!!
great!!!
Vig is such a Legend. I'm tempted to buy his Signature voice-processing plugin. Though I think it's largely hyped and a nice GUI on regular compressors and the like.
Butch is my favourite producer/engineer along with Brendan O'Brian and few others, but I'd have to say Chris Lord Alge's, Waves Vocal Plugin, is better, in my humble opinion anyway for what its worth. It just seems to have a far more dynamic range and nuance to it than Butch's. Butch's is very specific I think to what he does but CLA's is a lot broader in what one can do with it.
nice!!!
There's that great mix engineer called Raz Klinghoffer you should all check out
some day I hope I can work with him
Huge
cool
he sits down @ 7:38
A multibrand EQ. Haha what a businessman.
great**
Music was never meant to be played at the same tempo, the thinking or theory that it does need too comes from the digital world. Real, unmodified music, played live, does not stay at the same tempo and the reason why can be found with the great composers like Beethoven, Mozart, etc. Sad music will most often be played slower while happy music will be more upbeat; however, within those songs different emotions or stages of emotions are felt and the music should reflect all those at different tempos.
Listening to him talk... he so sounds like a cheese head!! Yah!!
No Batter's Box?
I want my songs to fluctuate...Timing wise. I don't want it exactly on point perfect. I like having to kinda wait for the beat sometimes...I like the human element. I find myself also laying down fewer tracks per song these days, kinda dumbing it down. The fewer sounds you have per song the bigger they sound...
VHS Alum!
I think Butch meant that whenever you crank an amp (or use a stompbox for this effect) most people sound the same. I'm guessing he's talking about 90% of the power chord crowd out there, because, yeah, they all sound the same. Dave would have a different sound then Butches mom, but it wouldn't be consistent, it would not be THEIR signature sound because they just wouldn't be doing anything specific. Pretty surprised Dave just called this bullshit, because clearly, it's not. Some people sound different. Some just sound the same. Especially with cranked gear.
Simon de rycke
*crunk gear
18:17 "Your a drummer so your hearing is affected by all that banging" hahahaha nobody acknowledged that diss
Herb is the one with the real money here. Why he got Ralph Lauren on and Pensado doesn't?
Interesting what he said about tempos slightly changing, that's what turns me off about modern music, it's too perfectly timed but than it has no feel,
Agreed. But that's such an easy "mistake" to make. You look at your track on Pro Tools and go "hmm, why don't I just polish this up a bit" and it ends up being much more than "a bit".
It's definitely interesting to see someone like Butch Vig admitting he's also been guilty of that.
I definitely did feel that Version 2.0 was so perfected that it had very little character to it. Or put in another way, their debut had something to the sound and vibe in a good way the Version 2.0 didn't.
Dave you're right about guitarists.
He's right but as a guitarist, I can certainly see what Butch is saying as well:
These days with the Hi Gain amps and super compressed and time perfected production, it really is difficult to tell a difference between lots of guitar players, and unfortunately the same applies to other instruments as well.
With compression / limiting taken to the max and the dynamics squeezed out, then it becomes all about performance timing wise which can always be tightened with any DAW.
As a part-time guitar teacher, i've seen several chord diagrams that display several variations of the A chord. For example, some show the high E within the chord, others do not... and others.
J.M. Wolfman you wont hear a change in actual dynamics after the amp but it's still reflected in the variation of saturation when you play. in my opinion one of the key things about being a good guitarist is having the ability to feed off of an amp by varying how hard you play
MikleShnikle I see what you guys are saying and as a guitarist for 30 years myself, I agree on playing dynamics, which is what it's all about, Imo.
Well, this is not a big deal, but I think we're talking about 2 different things here:
I think what Butch was saying having produced loads of Garage and Punk bands is that most guitarists pounding those chords sound exactly the same.
Him being a drummer and obviously having a bit of a "go" at guitarists with a wink, in this case I can very well understand where his coming from as well.
I think he's was pretty much being sarcastic but yeah, in punk / garage rock when you got a guy pounding chords through a JCM800 with a Big Muff etc cranked up in front of it, him being the producer of these bands no wonder after a while you start to think "man, all these guys sound the same" ;)
***** at least? haha, I love teaching, I learned so much from it... also, I would probably go full-time if I wasn't in grad school for computer science right now. teaching is an amazing life-changing experience. :)
Steven Slate 40:45 !!
Anybody else hear the Austin Powers theme song @ 30:43? haha
I only work in instrumentals lol
Of course Butch does not use his own plugins, successful engineers have access to the best outboard gear, why would they use a $50 plugin?
Foo fighters? HOW 'BOUT THE SMASHING PUMPKINS?
Will anyone be my fwiend?
This guy's a synesthete and he doesn't even know it. Great stuff.
I wish there was less "this is your life" type stuff and more insight into technical approach to recording/mixing.
Since its music recording and mixing will always encapsulate more of the life than the technical
The Godfather of 90's rock.....but what does Butch think of Husker Du from the neighboring state of Minnesota??
synesthesia?
Gish snare =sex
those hillbilly presenters are awful
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!
vig = terrible
terrible = GOD
do you know other producers? vig is overrated.
I"ll buy that if you already worked with him.