Why Did Gran Turismo 7 ABANDON PSVR2?
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100% spot on... literally did nothing for vr since the initial release.
Not even quality of life features.
Needs
Vr only lobbies ( even if you have to wait to que)
Needs to have fov adjustment. Many cars the seating positsion is wrong. So you have to sit in a certain position until vr kicks in.
How they do not allough you to adjust your position blows my mind. 😂
Need more driver info like you said.
Head tracking would be great. ( especially in vr lobbies)
Update to the visuals to improve clarity would be great ( although this might require ps5 pro)
I literally only use my psvr2 for gt7. As much as L love it when I use it, its getting more and more difficult to keep hold of it and not sell it. Especially as this vr implementation feels more like a alpha test rather than an actual retail product.
Its a competitive game and they remove features to make it less competitive yet force you into lobbies where them drivers have more data than you. Its not right.
Bring the updates PD!
And can I just say why is there no PSVR1 support? For those of us that bought the OG headset, there is no reason why they couldn't have supported the old headset in GT7. Even if they only supported it for the PS4 version of GT7. It's just dirty the way Sony screws over users with little to no support for their devices. I doubt we will see any other racing titles on PS5 in VR. Like you I have seriously considered selling mine. Hard to justify keeping it for just one game.
Clickbait vr2 takes the game to the next level.
Dropped as a child? Maybe listen to what he actually says. Then come back and edit your comment. 😂
@@NickthaGeek I listened and I have to agree with @iwantalot. Everything Kireth listed sounds great, but I think a different title would be much more appropriate. This video is much more like a wish list for things you would like added to GT7 with PSVR2, not - Why did Sony Abandon the PSVR2?.... 😔
@@NickthaGeek liking your own comment after asking someone if he was dropped as a baby.... go troll somewhere else. Reported.
Still a clickbait title mate
@@C_Willy_completely agree, unnecessary title
What you talking about? I play GT7 on PSVR2 daily for my grind. It is glorious 🎉
You'd knew what is he talking about if you watched the video.
I absolutely love playing GT7 in VR, it’s actually the only way I play it now, but agree it makes Sport mode harder for sure, especially if the radar is way out of your peripheral vision. One main thing that’s always annoyed me with it is the sudden jump to VR after 3, 2, 1, race start. I wish they’d add a FULL VR UI for the game, like the main menu on a big flat screen just feels cheap; at the very least, let me sit in the car during auto drive at the start, and also in the pit lane, so the camera position doesn’t shift on pit lane exit if you’re not sitting perfectly centred. So much more potential, but I don’t wanna complain too hard, as it’s generally a fun experience. Made me buy a sim rig! Haha.
I just can't go back to a flat screen
I 100% agree with all these points [EDIT: minus the clickbaity title 😆]. I’d also add one little thing: *Let us rev the engine in VR Showroom.*
In GT8 u'll be able to rev ur Tesla in the showroom.
@@Illuminacent - Oh joy! 😂
Rev engine in showroom pleaseeee.
I asked were you putting all that on the screen ?
100% let's rev those engines!!
It's the only way I play these days.
I think driving in VR with my Pro racing wheel set-up is so immersive and game-changing, so much so that I only play Gran turismo now, I can't remember the last time I played ACC or Assetto corsa, and this is 100% because they don't support VR on console.
I don't care that I am most likely slower than I was when using my tv... I feel faster and more in control somehow 😅
Since I’m playing Gt7 with Psvr2 there’s no return to monitor mode for me! The feeling with all these different cockpits and the overall immersion in combination with a rig/wheel is absolutely fantastic - I hope PD are going to realize the massive potential and will continue improving… thanks for the report Kireth 👍
Also the view should bank with the car in the turns. When you go around a high banked turn, the VR view stays up and down and does not lean with the car, really takes you out of the experience.
It should be an option for people who want it however it will absolutely WRECK most people’s stomach lol
@@jonahbusch1194 Yeah, I agree. It should be an option. They should handle it like the Wipeout VR conversion was done. There were tons of view options to lock it certain ways for sensitive people , but the ability to fully unlock the view for those of us who are unfazed.
VR is the only way I enjoy playing GT7....
It's the best way to cruise!
@@Kirethbest way to race it’s all just your opinion not fact
I love PSVR 2, but its really need an update.
ITS TIME
Unfortunately for all of us I think presently Sony is concentrating on bringing the headset to the PC market currently, the adapter releases on August 7th, so any PS5 updates are probably being pushed to the backburner. :(
bro i hope they add all these ideas in gt7 if not then gt8
Any source where they say they "abandon" PSVR2?
it’s trust me bro
In the game, there hasn't been an update in a long time
@001sander2 but the fact that there hasn't been an update for PSVR2 for GT7 for a long time doesn't necessarily mean they abandoned it. More like they have the priorities set differently. More people play normal GT7 and a handful plays with the PSVR2 so it isn't really that strange.
PSVR2 with GT7 is absolutely stunning, and many people say the same, so i highly doubt that they will ever abandon it. It will only grow bigger ;)
@@-never-gonna-give-you-up- "doesn't necessarily mean they abandoned it"
Stop coping. It literally means that. There's so many things GT7 in VR2 is missing, compared to flat version. Quality of life things. There's no excuse not to add them, if they're already present in flat - for example, deltas. Lack of them for more than a year DOES confirm they've abandoned it.
Enjoy the game, play it, as long as you're happy, that's fine. But coping is just that - coping.
@ArturKwaszyn why would they throw everything over the fence for a VR headset that is already being stated as "low selling" by sony themselves? They work on it at their own pace and whenever they feel like it's worth it.
Remember, the main game is the non VR version of GT7, where all the money comes from. Obviously they focus on that version.
I say it again, as long as we haven't heard an official statement from the devs of GT7, we won't have to worry about it being abandoned.
They need to make VR only lobbies (get auto booted if unplugged) or add the data we need in VR view. I really dont understand why they don't just add this, sounds pretty minor given the other updates they do.
PSVR2 in GT7 is a total game changer, I've had PSVR since launch and I no longer play GT7 2D, the VR is _so good_
100% VR for me was transformative. The initial GT7 VR experience was so strong that flat screen racing is just not appealing for me any longer. I invested in a top of the line PC and Pimax Crystal just to have more VR options. It's too bad too, because the initial VR release was strong. You got an incredible immersive experience without the sometimes tedious process on PC getting VR to work properly. Hell, you could take the headset off and shut it off mid race and have the game go seamlessly into 2D mode. But after over a year, no updates for the VR version of the game. Considering all the work PD did for the VR version, I think update to the HUD and all the numerous ideas you suggested should have been quite manageable. There was a real opportunity here, sim racing and flight sim are really the two best implementations for VR, and putting extra effort into the process is how VR gets elevated out of niche. If you make the experience something you aren't willing to ignore, more people get on board which makes it more accessible and more cost effective down the road. Let's hope even if Sony won't invest the time, others will. I know I can't go back. I just finally got my Crystal and AC dialed in last night, and spent 3 hours going around Bathurst in my 911 RSR night to day with variable weather. Could not stop smiling.
Very good points. Pc VR is still a pain, but glorious when you get it going. However, the plug and play of PSVR2 is compelling.
You can see your feet as much as you would in a real car if you want to look down and die. Just add a couple of bass shakers and SIM hub and you get all the feedback you need and its not expensive if you shop around.. i have 4 but one in the back of the seat on braking set up right gives you plenty of brake pressure feedback.. only thing we need is position/ timing to other cars in race, all the rest would on screen would ruin the emersion... In my opinion..
Clacky gets it. Adding shiet like input display would just make it less immersive and more bot like driving like it is currently on flat-screen. Also Keith... Psvr2 isn't abandoned. Quit the clickbait dude, it's killing your channel.
Why can't we have an option to adjust the seat height and position in VR? Ok, there is a way to hack it, but it's really annoying how it resets after a pit stop
Crazy this
You do, look at your knees before you get thrown in to VR.
Bud... You have become a negative Nanny... Please go back to being happy and fun
He's very simply using his platform to voice our and his opinions for the possiblity to make something we love even better, and they definitely watch him so he's doing us a solid. Constructive feedback is not negative
I totally agree with these points especially the lack of information during a race. That said, its been a game changer for me! I absolutely love it and hope that these small issues will be addressed in the not too distant future!
Fingers crossed!
What amount of information you want? Too much information and it will take away the immersion , actually, I do not like that the information is actually available, it is right in front of your view, distracting and taking away part of the VR experience...
Dont MISLEAD us with BS marketing video titles. We will watch ur videos but dont mislead us.
Well said! Can't believe they never added exclusive vr online races
It would be sick if they would implement a pit crew that told you info about your car and the race as you go. So you would know when to pit and other valuable information. It would be incredible if they would add voice prompts so you could ask your pit crew this info at anytime during the race. GT7 is my favorite vr racer of all time. So much content right at your fingertips with no modding for tinkering.
This would be amazing!
Good video Kireth, it would be nice to be able to see the + and - seconds/driver list in the Hud.
100% - every PSVR2 GT7 player knows this!
I think this is just a matter of numbers. There are millions of players who will use and enjoy the things they are implementing now, but for VR2 we are only a handful of people in comparison that are going to get the benefit. So I guess the VR2 stuff is just way down in the priority list. Don´t forget that only a small portion of players have a wheel and, from those, even a smaller fraction have a rig or a VR2 set.
Totally agree. There is so much potential with psvr2. Showroom is Great but there should be options to also start the car and able to rev it. Think about doing this in a virtual car meet! Would be awesome!
Thanks!
What VR headsets can I use with gt7, I'm on ps5 and I want one for realistic drifting, I also want a pretty cheap but sturdy sim rig and a drifting handbrake( I have a thrustmaster t248 but I'll upgrade in a couple years). Do you have any ideas for me, I really appreciate any help I get.😊
It's a choice of one brother
@@smerplederple4144 - Only PSVR2 can deliver GT7 to you, and it’s worth it for that alone.
If you already own a PS5 then it’s sort of the obvious low-budget choice for PC-quality gaming anyhow.
I thought this was clickbait, but you made some valid points. There are pros and cons to everything and theae were some valid points and ideas.
Thanks! There's a strict no clickbait rule on this channel, just interesting videos!
The only thing I want is the race info (laps remaining/done) without having to have it in the top middle of the display. I don’t like having it switched on as it ruins the immersion. I want it somewhere else, like where the fuel gauge and tyre wear info is. I like doing custom long races with pit stops for tyres and fuel but end up switching off the race info so it’s not stuck in the middle of the display but then you don’t know when the best time to go flat out in the fasted map or save fuel if you can’t see the info
It’s the only way I race 😎 But yeah, it would be nice with some better hud options for competitiveness.
And if PS5 pro will be able to run 90 native would be amazing 😏
Having said that, I just want PD to undo the FB cap on my DD wheel, so I can use the NM I’ve paid for 😕
And I’m getting so impatient waiting for a Logitech Pro shifter 😫
I always use VR2 when driving in GT7, and there is one bug you did not mention: the banking bug! Go to Daytona, take on your VR and you will see, you are always sitting in 90 degrees to the horizon instead of 90 degrees to your car. That occurs everywhere where banking exists, but at Daytona it is most obvious. Some people told me "it's not a bug, it's a feature", but for me it makes those tracks much less attractive to drive. It just feels wrong.
I love playing in VR, when I switch back to 2D I do find it much easier as I believe the camera angles you get is basically a cheat you can see the corners and over the cars in front plus all the info you get on the screen. There should be races where it's only first person view. Not sure why you want to drive from outside the vehicle, but yeah I get it cause it easier.
Not as described 😔
Agreed, they should keep supporting PSVR2 and adding new features!
I personally never ever look at my brake a throttle bar/trace thing. Unless I think there is a physical problem with my old g29 peddles!. Just don’t do it, like when im driving down the road. I’m looking out the windscreen and down the road and not down into the footwell at my feet or watching my speedo to see what revs I’m at and what speed I’m doing. Obviously apart from occasionally to check I’m not doing like 35mph in a 30mph zone. But again in real life once you’ve been driving a while you can sense if your speeding and can sense if your doing 30mph. I guess to be fair that’s the limitations of sim racing, unless you’re on the 2.5million quid sim rig that ex stig Ben Collins did in he’s most recent video in that case the sense of reality is much improved.
Ben said that he normally raced on a Logitech G29. Legend.
@@supercededman yea it’s pretty cool and shows it’s true that people don’t need super expensive sim racing rigs to be fast. He even said he was on the old old G27 but had to upgrade to G29 to develop the games on console. Awesome guy.
Great informative video dude! I just purchased a PSVR2 last week and am interested in mostly driving, flying or FPS. Thanks for your honest review. Peace Out!
Peace bro!
You said you dont know why gt7 psvr2 is not updated could it be they dont want us playing in vr competitive as if we had the right info we could win most races then their flat screen base would either give up or complain about not being able to be as competitive as psvr2 without buying one , just my thoughts
True dat
Great points. I’ve been saying the same thing about not being able to see your additional HUD info with the psvr2.
Kinda crazy they didn't add this
100 % agree they should implement Vr lobby
I'd be there!
Use the grand stands, towers and helicopter/blimp views for vr, not just trackside in replays, perhaps even an in car view for the more adventurous.
At this point any update would be welcome. Even with this month's big release there is nothing re PSVR2.
You'd think they'd add little things every so often
100%%% agree - so much potential here and it makes me really hopeful for the future. Maybe there will be a HUGE patch which fixes everything one day?
I'd take a PSVR2 only patch!
They need to do what F1 and Assetto Corsa Competizone does and have a VA or AI to make the callouts.
Great ideas with the VR meets and spectator stuff. GT7 is on par with best VR experiences of all time. They should double down.
Fingers crossed!
Great points. Some points I didn’t even notice. Honestly, Sony as a whole seems to have abandoned PSVR2.
I actually bought GT7, my first GT game, because I wanted a good VR game. It is just amazing in VR, but I’ve played the game on the tv 99% of the time.
I wish they would give us widescreen support. Then all we need is a dedicated driving Sim monitor, with a bit more curve than is currently on the market
Abondoning it’s a licensor title but I agree on some points and it most likely would be so easy for Polyphony to add these UI features for the VR mode.
Hopefully we get it someday.
Im going to bet there will be a VR update in November. Why? PS5 Pro.
Hopefully. I'll definitely buy a PS5 pro if there are improvement for the PSVR2 on gt7
Just add the time distance to other drivers and a spotter to advise you on other cars positions
Gt should also let you add a ps friend into the arcade in game races where driver rating isn't a factor
I would like to have mirrors I can use in all cars for vr. Some of the cars have no rear view mirror and tiny wing mirrors putting var users at a massive disadvantage. I even drove one car that had wing cameras with no video feed inside so I could see nothing behind me.
I'd love team racing and a coop race experience with a spotter or just a npc spotter like crew chief
1:10 was not added as a post release patch 🙄🤦♂️
The game was built for PSVR2, but those features were locked and being finalised after the launch of the main game.
I love VR2, but I've been waiting for them to implement the brake gauge in it for ever, among other things
Are they waiting to implement the psvr2 improvements, for the ps5 pro?
It would be awesome if they setup the screen while in VR to show data for a race engineer that a friend could use to help you.
One issue I've had with my PSVR2 occurred after months of using it. I noticed one day that the steering wheel and the arms have lower FPS than the rest of the world, which makes it really annoying to see. Imagine everything you see is 120FPS all around you, and then the steering wheel and arms are at like 30-50FPS. You can really notice a difference, and it can get really bad to the point where I get pissed off and stop playing. There's times where I also the steering and arms would just stop moving?? I'd be taking a corner, and then exiting the corner the steering would appear frozen for a second or two, even though I am turning my steering wheel and the car turning too. Overall, I still love playing with it, but it can get so annoying!!
Its the opposite for me, the hands n hood is clear. Track looks very blurry.
@@olivierlachance7374 - I’m pretty certain that you literally cannot have 120Hz and 30-50Hz on the same display at the same time. It’s one or it’s the other. In GT7 it’s a stable 60 fps reprojected to 120 fps at all times.
Your description of the wheel locking is confusing, but I do wonder if it’s consistent for you in all vehicles. Steering can be broken in some cars by modification settings, so the front tires collide with the wheel wells if they are too fat and the car is too low (how crazy is that?!). This can lead to the sort of issue you’ve described.
I believe there might even be a model or two that is messed up in this way from the start (necessitating immediate adjustment). I don’t recall the make or model, but think I saw this on a Reddit post. For this reason, I would suggest testing others in your stable to see if they handle any better. The fix might be as simple as tire swap or suspension adjustment.
It might also be worth driving in flatscreen to see if you encounter the same trouble.
Best of luck to you!
You mean, in the same way they have abandoned the daily races? I had a PSVR2 and returned it. The reason is that you don’t get leaderboard info in races. Also, the outside view is a touch too fuzzy for me.
Nice misleading click-bait thumbnail title. Well done, you got me.
GREAT suggestions, but bogus subject. Do better.
Also I think they could have a duel out put for streamers so as they play in VR the stream is 2d
After psvr for GT7 it’s the only way I can play any racing game. Flat screen just don’t cut it no more. Also got Logitech pro wheel and pedals. It’s ultra fun!
Man, the amount of people coping in the comments is staggering. People just cannot accept the reality. It's sad. "I like it" doesn't mean the points mentioned in the video aren't true.
I want the option to add a Tacho Gauge for shifting, in cars that you have modified past the point of factory settings, & to know what my speed is, for the same reason.....
Liking this because we need more people bringing this issue up. Need more VR features
Sometimes I feel I'm the only one pushing for these changes!
Would be good to have an AI pit crew radioing info. Tyre wear, time splits/ position laps remaining, fuel level reminders, weather prompts etc. Level of info could be dependent on era or class of cars
Psvr2 price is a big barrier to entry i would think. Maybe not enough people using it for PD to put resources for updates.
4:35 "Seeing guy looking in the mirror"... Entire cars few meters away are turning into blurred blob and he wants to see eyes in mirror reflections 🤣🤣🤣
Totally agree, I miss the map in multiplayer as you can see when folks put. It would be ok in ACC because the pit guy tells you what’s going on. To be fair Sony has let everyone down with PSVR2, the lack of support, lack of AAA games, lack of updates for AAA PSVR titles. It’s got all the feeling of Sega towards the end of Hardware development. Bringing out kit & then not supporting it.
We need a spotter!
I just want motion compensation with PSVR2 & when the Pro comes out - reprojection turned off
It’s the only way I play the game and I just want a hud update. Everything else including the ability to plug and play in no time is leaps beyond what you get in other games.
I feel like too much information is breaking the immersion of driving ?
The most terrible thing is that blurry vision with the PSVR2. I strongly regret buying that stuff.
Maybe wait till the Tokyo Game Show in September for some new announcement ?
I'm confused. I am 4 1/2 minutes into this video. Has PSVR2 been disabled for Gran Torismo 7? I considering getting it when it's discounted and this will be a huge negative for me
No, and it won't be disabled. Kireth would just like features updated.
Hello PSVR2 has not been disabled!
I'm a pc gamer and gt7 got me to buy a psvr2 and ps5. Discovered drivehub adapter which to get my wheel on ps5.
They have not. I always turn off the hud in vr for best immersion
I just can't go back to a flat screen
It's really odd that in 2024 game houses are still releasing partially developed software, hardware and features - I get the drip feed thing (and dislike it), but things like this make it seem like they released a test feature, people like it and then Sony/PD are like 'ah, that'll do - next!'...
Abandoning psvr2 would be like what Frontier Did with elite dangerous.
They literally released a game changing update that you cannot even play in VR.
So long as GT7 works in VR I wouldnt say its abandoned.
But i do agree with his wish list.
You are spot on
Thanks!
You only lose competitive advantage for a short time, once used to it it’s better, simple as. Takes it from a game to a…..something more realistic.
Their real problem is the game doesn’t actually know what it is and at the moment it’s as stale as 3 week old bread
Alternatively Acc is absolutely smashing it presently
Agreed re competiteness: the loss of 'crucial ' deltas etc actually causes me to focus more on driving and pay attention to relative car position
I’m wondering @Kireth if you got into a real race car and complain you can’t see very well and you don’t have a graph showing your throttle or brake position. I always play in VR and the things you talked about don’t even bother me. I can feel how much brake pedal I’m using by how hard I’m pressing on it, same with the throttle. I’ve said it before, VR is supposed to feel like you’re in the car not sitting on top of it or flying behind it like when you’re using a screen.
I think PD should charge and offer a expansion pack as someone needs to be paid to work on the game, happy to pay for more contact for this game
ew
Great ideas ! Very much so.
Thanks!
Possibly the best vr game ever, and it's getting better each update.
Gr7 is the reason I got the dd pro and psvr2. Now everything at fanatec and the psvr2 has gone down the toilet.
Head tracking would be fire tho I'll give ya that.
Staredowns!
PSVR2 is the only reason I continue playing GT7. I enjoy both the single player mode and Sport mode with a Logitech Pro DD and load cell pedals and the experience is phenomenal.
When Sony abandons a product they don’t look back. For many many years. See how long PS Portal took between last PSP/Vita, PS VR1 etc.
My biggest gripe is the rendered visuals in videos like yours look nothing close to it when wearing the VR2. For first few races loved it bc it was new but quickly was annoyed with lack of high fidelity visuals. Forget what they call it but looks like I’m peering through mesh screen door.
I really enjoy GT7 in VR, but the dirt races look awful in VR (the dust from the tires looks so pixelated)… everything else is amazing.
Couldn't agree more, it's crying out for updates
Keep going with your suggestions Kireth. I agree with you totally. Hopefully gt7 will listen. One more point about safety rating in public lobbies to stop dirty drivers, and keep every1 honest. Ive noticed alot less users racing there due to rammers.. Something similar to acc could work. What do you think? Can it be done?
Thanks! You can set safety rating minimums in lobbies!
So I must have missed the part where he talks about the reason Sony "abandoned" PSVR2 ...
I've never once looked at my feet while I drive. In real life or in the sim. Keep your eyes on the road
What a click bait title. My heart dropped for a second.
Omg, Cool little details are not killer features. Polyphony needs a killer feature monthly subscription Pro mode with these features added 2 months early before the non subscribers and ability to vote on upcoming tracks, helmets, vehicles, UI enhancements, gameplay additions, etc. Something that puts all the rest on notice. Would easily make folks line up for PS5 Pro for more fidelity!
I just added a Dof Reality motion simulator with a SRS fan kit to my psvr2 with a b haptics x 40 vest. Yeah it’s one of the best racers in vr. Amazing experience and one of the best vr games out there.
This guy is whining about nothing. If your concern is being able to rev the engine in showroom mode, then you need to move on, nothing will please you.
Definitely all that would be great.
Thanks!
Hey Kireth. Hope your well.
Not bad mate hope you're good
Is Sony even going to support the VR2? Why would the game developer if the platform isn’t even supporting its own product?
the pc adapter for me would add more value and would encorare me to buy it! the abity to use on my console and is no brainer
GT7 + VR2 give you the best driving experience in VR, but it’s don’t make you faster. Because human make mistakes in more real environment.
Sony seems to already gave up on PSVR2. I cannot see GT7 adding more features to please the people who already bought PSVR2. I own PSVR2 but it is collecting dust now.
It would be nice if Sony put some effort to sell more PSVR2 then Polyphony Digital may come up with some updates