10 SHOCKING Reasons Why Aptera is Not For YOU!
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2023
- 10 Reasons that Aptera is Not For YOU! As the saying goes, if you try to please everyone, you'll please no one. Aptera is targeted at a VERY specific demographic and it's totally ok if you're not in that group.
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What is your opinion on this?
Rubbish.
A great car. I order one
@@snokesss You don't drive one.
This is a serious report? Pathetic.
Translation: "please comment so my ad revenue can increase."
Two minutes just to tell us a two seater wont fit a family.....real shocking
Just buy two of them for a family!
When he said something so obvious, I stopped the video and went to the comments. Did he also mention that the Aptera was not suitable for towing a horse trailor or ski boat?
@@RaymondCore It is by far the worst video review of Aptera I have yet seen.
Yes, mine is already pre-ordered. With my short commute, I will never need to plug this in.
I'm thinking of buying a motorcycle. Can you explain to me if you think this will be practical to transport my large family?
You obviously have not been to Asia where they sometimes take the whole family on a small motorcycle. Your safety may vary.
Same in Latin America
Aptera is built for two. It would make an excellent second car for your family.
Aptera has significant safety advantages over other vehicles. Complete with an anti-lock braking system, forward collision warning with the safety pilot package, two airbags, four external cameras, and parking assist. They are being designed to meet or exceed all applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards and use industry-standard testing protocols to ensure reliability and durability.
Their Formula One-inspired safety cell uses advanced Carbon Fiber Sheet Molding Compound (CF-SMC) that is ultra-lightweight and many times stronger than steel, paired with metallic front and rear subframes that absorb energy after impact. They will show their testing and provide Aptera’s safety rating upon passing a production vehicle through the full safety tests.
HAHAHAHA
Right.. 2:20 into the video, and all it has pointed out by then is that it has two seats... and then another 1.5 minutes to tell you it looks unusual.. super-helpful.
I'm sold. I'll take two please.
Hahaha! Lovely to hear that
None of these reasons scare you?? ;)
1.. I’m 76 years old, I’ve been waiting since 1962 when I designed an underground totally off grid home with solar energy and 100% (to my mind at the time) recycling, including methane gas production in the process of making fertilizer. It was a project, and I got an F. That was because it was ridiculous according to my teacher. No one uses prestressed concrete, no one needs to recycle, and the thought of recycling is Ludacris. There’s no such thing as solar energy and it’s not possible to capture of the energy from the sun. Methane gas is impractical, especially the process of recycling garbage and organic material. No one wants to live underground. And lighting the building through polished tubes to direct sunlight into the building from the surface, cannot possibly work, because as soon as it storms, the glass will break. Modeling air conditioning off of African ant hills is unheard of and unnecessary…… and the list goes on.
I refuse to redo the project, because I felt very certain that I was right. I sent the plants my father and he loved it. He said I was for seeing the future. That summer he brought me as a guest to Rotary to speak to one of the speakers on housing in the future.
Number 2
I am alone, any room for my dog … at the moment, I have one that is only 8 pounds. I will have a very nice truck extended cab if I want to show for anyone.
Number 3
What is another couple years at this point? If I’m alive, I’m going to have the time of my life living the dream, being part of the adventure, which includes inconveniences, in the new technology.
Number 4
I try to keep up with technology. Grant it, I truly only go after knowledge that I’m going to be using or will contribute to my base on using what i have. I find it funny when people are amazed at how much I use my smart phone. When I got my hearing aids, I read that was an app that went with it. In the app I could control and adjust my hearing aids, and there’s a fine function. When I went in for my first tuneup on my hearing aids, the gentleman was surprised. I already had it, downloaded and familiar with its use. Old folks usually do not do this. I’ve tried to keep up with other electronics, challenging myself, and my reflexes. Xbox shooter games are excellent for eye hand coordination.
Number 5
When I was a kid I was self-conscious. I thought everyone was talking about me. I got over it nobody cares, nobody’s watching me, no one is talking about me. Everyone is too concerned that somebody is talking about them. And the people that do talk about me do not count… there are usually Karen’s and Kevins, non-entities that are created to strengthen us and our character. There are there so that p the strong people stand out because they lift people up and they have the strength to help people carry their burdens on top of their own burden. They are the dark that creates the light even brighter.
I have select a model that fits my lifestyle, and where I live. I know I will have to charge it more often. Self charging in the winter time will be less than 50% of its capacity to charge. But I also plan to travel to the ocean to go fishing, one of my passions. It will force me not to drive, five and 600 miles a day. But stopping to see what I’ve missed all these years. Yet, the model I believe will be one of the last models they build it might not even be until 2026 before I get my Aptera. This is because I would like the option if I want to drive longer, I can on one charge.
The up side of not having my vehicle until 2025 and 2026 is there will probably be quite a few more charging stations built, and they’ll be easier to find. I’ve already stopped of the number of motels that have charging stations, which tickles my heart. I’ve even seen them in shopping centers in the largest cities. I do not expect to be free. When I’m at home, I plan on having solar and wind generators, this will lower my footprint when I’m home and charging. Otherwise using energy from the grid will put pressure on the grid, and it does leave a footprint. Going electric is not to save money, it is not to get away from buying fuel, it is trying to make less of an impact to our environment with toxic fumes.
You missed counting to 10! 😂 You got to 7 and wrapped things up. And some of those reasons were kind of weak. But people do need to consider things!
I'm already have my preorder
We'll never give up our Sedona for vacations, however 99% of our driving is running errands 1-2 days a week, with one passenger. Bonus, with our full sun SSW facing driveway we may never have to plugin charge.
Who knew a 2 seater only seats 2 ? 😂😂
This review can’t be real ??
Shocking reasons 😂😂
🛑 it
It would be important to know about Aptera’s suspension - could it handle cobblestone streets for example?
This is the weakest "analysis" I've seen. "Might attract attention"? SMH.
how wide is that front wheelbase? looks like the size of a big pickup??!!
86"
The four seat concept aptera looks promising.
I respect your opinions. But I feel like anyone in the market for a car like this has no reason to hate on it, it's either you hate it or ya dont :)
Did you know ???
A 2 seater only seats 2 ??
😂😂
@@upgr8king That's plenty for the majority of Americans. The average US commute is in a 4 seat car with empty trunk and one or two occupants, for 5 miles. Breeders should not expect to be accomodated. I bought my Arcimoto after 7 years of owning only an ebike for transportation. Great decision.
Its modular constructed meaning everything is upgradeable, from the hub motors to the solar cells. The resale value is not an issue because owners won't need to sell it. It is designed for young couples and singles. That didn't hurt the popularity of the VW Beetle and it won't hurt the Aptera. Finally, Sandy Munro believes in it enough to invest in the company. That's good enough for me. I reserved one and will happily await its arrival.
Aptera have stated that they are working on a rear seat model, but it won't be until they have started the roll out of the current model. One possible obstacle that you did not mention is that the car is 88 inches wide. It will not fit easily to the average supermarket parking space. The wheels will almost touch the white lines of the parking space.
In contrast, three Arcimotos fit in one car parking space. We like to call it rock star parking.
Pull all the way into the parking space. That way your wheels won't be blocking anybody's car or truck doors. Problem solved! That was easy.
It will fit fine in a compact car parking space (96") No problem at all in a 108" standard space.
Does it come with Skrillex preloaded on the stereo?
Would you buy an Aptera? If yes, why?
Because its not a Tesla!
Yes i would, even if i cant afford it in an eastern tn retail job. I can list at least one reason why, affordability. At $45k, its a mid level cost vehicle in regard of brand new vehicles. At 1000 mile range per charge at that price, i can travel the 15 mile drive to work and then home again for an entire month before having to recharge. Then theres the ability to recharge at home. Most the people i know who disagree with electric vehicles in this area is due to them having charging and starting issues during cold weather... but with my gas savings from 1 year, i could build a green house to store it while still allowing it to charge. And starting isnt an issue for the Aptera, it has a low power mode where it will stay running just to keep a set temp inside the cabin, hence always being warm and turned on. The big check for this would be charging from home, which would raise my monthly power bill... unless somehow get all my power from an already established publicly funded hydroelectric damn, which brings my power cost down insanely... hmm and at that 45k, you also get every attachment...including off road... no brainer bro
Yes, I care about our planet and its people, and will do whatever I can to help stop Global Warming.
@@IBMara cars dont cause global warming tho. They sure dont help, but we as a species were shipping products and people worldwide using steam-ships and coal engines long before personal motorcars
@@andrewalmas2791 cars are a major contributor to global warming.
Ground clearance in the snow is a big factor in my area. Another is finding a mechanic that can do regular maintenance work. A 3rd reason is insurance cost. A 4th is software updates. What happens if the company goes belly up? How will updates be made?
As for its unique design, it would be less likely to be stolen because it would stand out like a sort thumb making it easier to find the thief. That would be a big plus. Another plus is that it might become a collector's item in the future.
All my concerns addressed. When I bought my spiffy new Honda scooter in 1985, that resembled something from a Star Trek movie, I had no idea how many strangers it would attract in parking lots. I used it as my daily rider in the Summer months. After I parked it at my local grocery store, I'd come out to find kids sitting on it,..and touching it all over. The Aptera looks like a delicate pretty bird.
How is it in the snow and cold weather , like in Colorado?
I will report on my experience year round in Iowa.
This looks futuristic. On that alone I’ll take it.
Will it be available as right hand drive?
Yes, but perhaps a couple of years later.
All good points I've already considered. Im going to get one.
Eh. Commuter. Also, for a lone-wolf like me, just fine for most uses. I'm "not too sure" about the tablet screen; I like buttons, switches, sliders, and knobs. Still, it's intriguing.
As well as the 3 wheels the outboard front wheels could be a problem on poor roads and in cold countries like Canada. Suggest try to market it as luxuriary version of the 3 wheel motor cycle which you don’t have to store in the winter
I will be driving my Aptera year round in Iowa, where it gets down to -30 C. I will report on my experience in detail.
States are quickly updating their motorcycle and autocycle laws. Arcimoto lobbying has been the single largest catalyst to this update. They have already gotten changes made to the laws in many states. A helmet or MC license is not needed for an autocycle with enclosed cabin or roll cage with harness. By pushing this short term transient issue the video has made itself obsolete within a couple years.
By the time an Aptera is actually in stock for you the real price for a carbon fiber vehicle will have to be reflected. It is the most expensive material you could use in a car body. Ask Boeing engineers.
If you want to tow a boat or camping trailer It's likely be not recommended. It'll probably need an aftermarket kit, be difficult to find or make mounting points, and the weight and wind resistance of most trailers will kill efficiency without enough battery to offset the workload.
(You did ask for more reasons?)
What happens when you need an alignment ????? The standard equipment requires four wheels and would the design even allow an alignment with the motor and brakes in the tires ..and what happens when you go into a pot hole and bend the rim …??? Or need the tires balanced ..standard balancing equipment would not Handel a tire with a motor inside …could you even attach weights to the tire to balance it when you have a motor in the tire …looks like the rods attaching the tires could get bent if you hit a pot hole… the rods attaching the wheels look long and look flimsy ….and since the motors are in the wheels , if you did need an alignment it would be needed on an emergent basis since the motors inside the tires would be taking you in a drifting direction
@davegott8412 " with the motor and brakes in the tires" What ever gave you that idea? It is completely false. The Aptera has standard tires and wheels available anywhere and they bolt on tho the motors as if they were drum brakes.
These are very valid concerns. That said, really hoping that Aptera succeeds!
I'll have to find a real review. The website is limited also. I always like to see the interior. It doesn't look like there are many interior places to put stuff. It looks to me like there is enough room in the back to put a couple of small luggage, grocery bags, suitcases or the dish for the pot luck or the outer layer wardrobe I keep back there for winter. It might be that passenger safety needs work. I don't see great structure for the passenger safety cage and it looks to me like the dash board will go right into the occupants knees. Knee damage was a big problem before auto crash tests. Also, for us enfeebled older types gull-wing doors (although uber-cool) may be more difficult for entering and leaving. At the very least I would need a chicken handle to pull on to replace the interior door structure I lean on to get out.
I am 74 and my wife and I have ridden in a prototype. It is easy to back up to the seat, sit straight down and swing your legs in. There is also enough room to sleep a couple in the back if you like camping trips. There are 2 front air bags.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Thanks.
Wow. Really? I was thinking of transporting my six kids in an Aptera. Thankfully, you can count to 2!
I think it would be an excellent delivery vehicle.
Very poor commentary. You spoke in generalities and obvious facts. How about what the actual driving range of the car is? Charging times? How long can the car go with a day's exposure in full sun? What happens if one of those wheels that stick out from the body hits a big rock?
It is an interesting vehicle, and I agree with all your points on why not to get this vehicle. I didn't think about driving this vehicle we may need a motorcycle license since it only has 3 wheels.
It would not fit my needs though based on family needs, storage capacity, and winter weather in Northern Illinois. To me the Aptera is nothing more than a very expensive summer time play toy for single people. I googled the price on these vehicles and came up with 26,000 dollars at this time.
I wonder how the security is on this vehicle for possible thieves trying to steal this vehicle since it is so unique. Like you say, it really stands out from other 4 wheel vehicles and could be more of an attraction for thieves.
The Aptera looks more like an airplane design, but with no wings. Be interested in seeing more of the interior view of final product and what all the software does inside the vehicle.
How many cameras will the Aptera have far as different views the driver can see???
Will it have an auto cruise or super cruise for ease of driving long distances???
How much would the battery packs/solar panels cost if needing replacements???
How comfortable and quiet will the Aptera be if we did do long distance trips???
Does the Aptera provide adequate Heat and Air Conditioning based on weather???
I wonder what insurance companies think of this vehicle and getting license plates for it???
Which leads to next question, how safe is the Aptera should ever have an accident???
Thanks for this video. Take care.
Next thing is a four-seat Aptera. But for many peoples needs and single-person transportation it's ideal. I'd welcome being ogled and solar -powered past all the gas stations... I just wish the batteries were removable. The ultimate `thief proof`, Looking at the Nimbus as an interesting second choice...
Did anyone ever call you Captain Obvious? I watched the whole thing but at each point you made I thought, "Duh". By the time anyone decides to buy such an unusual vehicle they've already thought of all your points and dealt with them. The Apterea will be a commuter/roadster/sportscar. Nobody buys a Corvette for a family car and pointing out that fact is............obvious. Aptera will be a niche market until they start manufacturing a four passenger model. Niche vehicle buyers are the most aware consumers.
No mention that the car can only carry 500 lbs, including passengers.
More than most 2 seaters....
points out the obvious
Totally agree.. I had to stop watching.. it has 2 seats not good for a family.. no shit
Yes you are right, not for alldays using !!!🙃
No 'car' is right for everyone. Get over it.
Not suited for large families? That's the number one reason? Did that even need to be said? Just curious if you posted the same insights for motorcycles or two seat Polaris "Slingshot" vehicles? This is just a new, economical, clean energy option for getting around. Its not pretending to target families. As for the appearance, yes, it will draw attention but so would a Ferrari. When I brought my F-150 pickup truck to Germany, it was always surrounded by crowds of curious people. No big deal. I'll see how these hold up after the prototypes, but for the limited amount of local daily communting I do, it looks like a pretty decent alternative.
I'm so glad this video let me know this is not the best car for my large family! I was sooo about to order myself one and and then I saw this video and now I'm soooo glad I saw it! Otherwise I would have reserved myself one and my family would not have fit inside it. :( :( :(
is it even out yet? also, personally, i never saw it as a purely solar vehicle so the solar being less efficent isn't a concern. the fact that it should be twice as efficent as a Tesla even when powered from a plug is a good enough selling point for me. the only real concern is the fact that it might be classified as a motocycle in one country and as a car in another. having a vehicle that can do 1000 miles(even if its 1000km in real world range at the end of the day) here in Europe might as well mean it can visit 5 different countries before it runs out of range. as for "but what is that" at the supermarket, idunno, might be interasting.
No mention about AC in the company info or here. How about covering other points like this....?
I'll wait for the 4-seater 👌🏼
It is the efficiency that you don't get or even understand so I'll simplify it a bit. Aptera uses 100 watts a mile. Where I live, a kilowatt, at the bottom of the bill after all the fees and stuff, costs about a dime. This means without any contribution from the solar cells which add about 30-40 miles a day, the Aptera costs at most a penny a mile to operate. If you drive less than the total power you capture from the sun, all that driving is FREE.
You were cautioning folks not to buy a two seater if they're from a family with three or more members. The implication was that if you're in a family of five and all are drivers, you need five mini-vans so everyone can go in anyone's vehicle. I'll consider you a rich guy, so I'll make these SUV's you spec are probably v-8 4WD Escalades that get 13 mpg at a per-mile cost of $.27 which means you're paying 50 times the cost of going from A to B in an Aptera.
Even paying the full penny a mile needed without solar, if your family comprised six people, you'd only need three Aptera to transport the family to the beach and you'd still be banking a quarter for each mile of your camping trip. Except it would be better. First everyone would have more room. You'd only need one Aptera to provide electricity for the camp site, meaning you could use the other two Aptera to go off-roading while the hubby stays and watches a rerun of the Superbowl.
The actual, factual truth is that about 90 percent of the time, most vehicles are operated by and solely for the one passenger- the driver. Carrying around all that extra weight is like strapping on a full field pack and marching miles to the front. The extra-weight carried around all the time for very limited use - you know that most cars are parked 95 percent of the typical week, on average. (The sole driver scenario is 90 percent of that five percent of time the vehicle is actually in use.)
The main thing you get wrong about Aptera is it is not a vehicle to replace your Escalade or pickup truck ... it is a vehicle you add to your fleet that you use as much and as often as you can because you pay pennies for energy. Your Escalade, which would be worn out after four years now is not used nearly as frequently and at eight years old, it drives like new with less than 30,000 miles. You fill it up maybe once or twice a year, you know, for the day trip to the beach.
Watts are power, kWh are energy. Aptera has never demonstrated 10 miles/kWh
@@artsmith103 Given these folks pretty much have staked their reputation on this assertion of efficiency and the mere fact it is not that difficult to calculate on a machine powered by a simple electric motor.
They actually had access to significant testing that was done on the first Aptera as it was all part of the IP package they reacquired. Remember, they were touting their efficiency as part of their proposal. It's projected mpge was something like 300 mpg and this version is projected to be closer to 350 mpge.
Besides, they've staked their reputation on it.
@@g.pattonhughes5991 Well that is the legend. But with what payload, at what speeds, in what weather and road conditions, with what tires? The devil is in the details.
@@artsmith103 It is not great a stretch. I've driven an entire 'charge' (about 75 miles) and averaged a full six miles per kilowatt on hilly county roads at speeds up to 50 mph in my nine-year old SparkEV.
What's the point to be a penny to fuel if it starts at 25k?
Don't get me wrong, I am not discouraging you, that thing is certainly better than a SUV but if all you care for is the environment there are better and cheaper ways to do so.
I want one but I will wait til I can get one in green
The coloured part is vinyl wrapped, you can change any time you like.
Off road or steep grades?
You forgot the topic of safety. They keep comparing this to cars when this is clearly not a car and has none of the safety features you would find in a car. 110 miles an hour without the safety features of a car would you want your kids driving it?
I think way to many people care about all the bells and whistles when it comes to software and not the vehicles themselves. Maybe im just jaded but i grew up with cars that didnt have anything like touchscreens and only had dials and knobs, unlike how these modern cars car so much avout software and apps, connecting and controlling the car with bluetooth, as well as these "safety features" that make me want to take a bat to the car due to how obnoxious they are
Duh it has only two seats. It's not a family car.
Eight minutes I'll never get back.
But those nice video clips of the aptera made up for it
only 2 seats
appearance will stand out
some states will require motorcycle license
delivery time
resale unknown
software ie ui
geograpy
2023 is here. So much for extended wait times....
electric elio?
Just waiting for it to comes to sunny Bangkok.
As an auto cycle, are there crash and safety requirements?
Good question. Aptera is not far enough along to go for highway safety testing yet. Arcimoto easily got its hardened steel tubing crash cage and 6 point harness system certified for an industry standard 22G crash with no air bags needed. The first serious t-bone collision with the Arcimoto proved it is tough as hell. The guy walked away with only bruises, no helmet required. He ordered another Arcimoto. The pickup truck was totalled.
Nothing federally beyond those for a motorcycle.
@@patrickweaver1105 To compete, and to create customer confidence, crash testing is being done, required or not.
@@popeyegordon That's a good thing but not required. The question is what are the requirements.
@@patrickweaver1105 A 6 second search could answer your question immediately.
I know you are doing reverse psychology .. but no there is not a low demand of the car .. its 800million in reservations !!!! thats pretty oke
Nothing SHOCKING. 😛
I want this car just so I have a legit reason not to be the one that always has to drive everyone to lunch.
why do you call it a car when it is not a car it is classifed as a motorcyle this motorcyle has 3 wheels and can only be registered as a mototorcycle at least in my state you have to put motorcycle tags on it this is not a car
Some of your reasons are bogus or outdated, I.e., motorcycle license, availability of sunlight, maintaining low profile (unless in witness protection). Even families can use this as 2nd vehicle to run local errands. How often do families go anywhere as a complete family? Car can be commuter car to take driver to his/her work site.
This must've been a slow news day for you, Future Drive. Eight minutes of hot air in place of insight.😵💫😵🥴
I just love it, unfortunately it is to prize for a two seater car!
Good car
These reasons are so obvious they don't need to be published anywhere i.e who is going to think a two seat vehicle is going to fit a family....? duhhh
wow super cool machine...i want one ...far better than the real crude oil cabals vending machine cars and trucks...easy to fix easy to travel....
It's a perfect vehicle for retired folks.
reason 11 .. it could be a bad car .... reason 12 ..maybe your not gonna like the color ..reason 13 your cat will hate it
I saw a 6" guy in one, he didn't look comfortable, might want to sit in one before you order.
If you’re much under 6”, you might want to get it in red!
1:20 Long live the DINK life!
I didn't know that term was still used. 80s DINK.
When doors are open it look like a fly 😂 Also open window It's beging to be stolen. Most importantly costs too much. (Which is the whole point no need for charging aka Cheap fuel) But it be a shame if they fail. It has huge potencial for future to be improved. Bet Elon Musk could do it but yeah it's only for 2 people. If they find a way to reduce price making it cheaper, maybe add self driving
One of the biggest scams in recent years in the EV automotive industry. Similarly with Lightyear One. The owners say 100W per mile!!!! Aptera has three drive units of 1.5 kW each. The actual power of solar panels at this surface is 200 W (the owners indicate 700 W at peak). An electric scooter with a 350W motor, traveling at 14 miles/h, consumes 9 Amps at 36V.
Here we are in 2024 and now they're saying 2025. Aptera is taking too long to come to market.
I find this video to be pointless... Anyone with any common sense would understand the pros and cons of the Aptera and in my opinion the pros far outweigh the cons... I guess some people just have to whine about anything...
Please insult someone else's intelligence, "2 seaters aren't for the brady bunch", what a keen grasp o the obvious.
Ya kinda lose credibility when you advertise 10 and only deliver 7, and several are plain silly or don’t apply to most folks. How can you possibly know the resale value. Some don’t live where they can take advantage of the solar panels when most BEV’s don’t have them?
This is as childish and amateurish form of a negative counter ad video as I have ever seen.
Thank you for the excellent video. I would add that if safety is your number one priority for a vehicle that your young family would drive, I would steer away from the Aptera. Aerodynamics are Aptera's main focus and having a very fuel efficient motorcycle. Thus it will only have two airbags instead of 6 to 12 like a Tesla has. Safety is Tesla's main focus. After speaking with Aptera's engineers, the motorcycle will not have any steel door side impact guards built in. My wife and teens will not be allowed to drive this cycle and it will only be used as a secondary city vehicle. Another reason that this may not be for everyone is that some will not get accustomed to the rough ride that the motorcycle has. The heavy in-wheel motors (80 lbs) and light overall weight of the vehicle (2000 lbs) will have an unsprung weight differential leading to a coarse ride. One should not get the Aptera if they want to take more than 100 lbs of cargo on their journey. The total payload capacity of the motorcycle is 500 lbs. So depending upon the weight of the passengers, this leaves little for cargo weight. Do not get the Aptera if your needs require the use of a small trailer. Lastly, I would not recommend the Aptera for the elderly driver for getting in and out of the car can be a little awkward. Unlike a CUV, where you step downwards to the ground, in the Aptera one traverses a lateral bulkhead before setting ones feet upon the ground. The Aptera may not be for those who live in hot sunny climates. When left to charge in the sun, the greenhouse effect by the windshield and door windows will create a greenhouse effect. The side windows are preacariously small to exchange enough hot/cold air before actually driving off. I would also shy away from this motorcycle if one is not mechanically inclined or not have certification to work on a 400 volt system. There will be no formal service centers around the country, and with your right to repair, you will also need to figure out why the vehicle is acting up yourself.
Interesting assessment. You might want to look a bit deeper. Side intrusion bars in the doors, crumple zones in the subframe to take loads around the occupants and batteries. HVAC system runs while parked and charging. The suspension is internal so the unsprung mass of the dampers, springs, and supports is removed from the wheels making the unsprung mass about the same. Do many people complain about the live axle, leaf springs and drum brakes on a truck? Looking forward to seeing the crash test results of the delta or production version.
@@martinrieger5822 After talking with the Aptera engineers, there are no steel side impact bars. They felt that it would hamper the vertical opening of the doors because of the added weight. The front subframe crumple zone is mainly for front end impact. My biggest concern is the side impact hitting the door directly since it also does not have side curtain airbags. No airbag is going to prevent an SUV bumper from sitting on your lap. But I do realize that it is better than a naked motorcycle. Instead of me explaining it too you, you will trust the information of suspension design from a suspension design textbook. Just moving the location of the springs and shock absorbers does not change the unsprung weight. It just locates them to a better aerodynamic location. Trucks are not a good comparison for they are usually undersprung to increase the load carrying capacity. Ride comfort and tire traction is dependent upon the ratio of the unsprung weight to the stabilizing mass weight of the vehicle. In the Aptera, it is very inopportune. Will the Aptera meet the engineering goals of the designers. Absolutely. It will translate into a highly efficient motorcycle and that also gives excellent weather protection. But will the same aerodynamic shell give safety protection...probably not adequate. Like I said, like a 1965 Mustang convertible, it will not be one of the vehicles I let my 19 y.o. son drive. It too lacks adequate safety features such as airbags, ABS, traction control, roll over protection, and road stability. But they are fun to drive. I am trying to stay positive and hope that the Aptera engineers design better safety equipment into this cycle. They do listen to us....we now have DC fast charging capabilities.
Arcimoto accomlished excellent safety with the tried and true formula one racing harness and crash cage combination, no air bags needed. This has the standard highway commission 22G crash rating. The first serious t-bone collision has already happened and the victim walked away with only bruises, no air bag or helmet or safety gear of any kind was needed.
Tesla is an abomination of waste for over powered status symbols. It is no example to be used for any comparison. Each Tesla has enough materials in it to make four electric autocycles or 100 e-bikes. So is there a battery mineral shortage or a battery mineral squandering going on now?
@@popeyegordon Thanks for the response Popeye. Who rated the Arcimoto with an Excellent category safety rating? I'd like to see the data. Both lack of finances and poor passenger safety protection are what brought their production down and let to bankruptcy. As you noted, many Formula One race cars have been designed for drivers safety with full 5 point harnesses and full crash cage. This is my point exactly, that a more protective cage would improve Aptera's safety. Airbags would not help in Formula One racing car since they are already tightly encapsulated by the padded cage, but in the case of many cars, anytime you have open space, multiple airbags to fill that empty space is the key. I am curious as to how fast and the size of the side impact vehicle was involved in the T-bone situation. Please enlighten me.
On your other point, I do agree that many EV's are overbuilt. People have the misconception that their vehicle needs to be fast vs efficiency. Any vehicle that accelerates faster than around 7 seconds 0-60mph is really unnecessary for everyday usage. Performance and Ludacris mode should be geared towards longer range. But the American public is often mislead by what should be priorities. If they are happy and safe, that is what matters. I really don't feel that most Teslas (M3 and MY) are power status symbols. They are practical sized cars that can hold 5 to 7 people, carry a large payload, and tow a small trailer or bike rack in one of the safest vehicular packages. Let be glad that we can all choose our favorite cars and colors as free Americans. I feel that new battery chemistries and use of hydrogen are right around the corner. Thanks for the discussion.
@@SilverShadow2LWB I thought the CPC moulded doors had the intrusion bars included because they revised the door position. I could be wrong, so many changes. The egg like shape will make the door stronger but not energy absorbing, carbon fibre is strong but will break catastrophically. Need to see the testing as this structure has not been used like this in a vehicle before. Moving the coil overs to the inside means a different design, just moving I agree, but... The upper link is not split to go around the damper and the lower stronger to support the damper and spring. This makes the arms are lighter. The dampers are now effectively upside down with the body connected to the structure with the rod moving and this has less moving mass. Outboard the damper body is connected to the lower arm so there is more unsprung mass. Inboard the dampers are shorter. Unsprung mass has been increasing with low profile tyres and increased wheel diameter, this also increases suspension harshness by losing side wall. Small diameter wheels and higher profile tyres reduces unsprung mass and mass moment of inertia improving whole vehicle acceleration and in the case of EVs affects range. Increases in unsprung mass have been dealt with way before EVs to deal with low profile road bling. Increasing the side wall height will improve ride and only affect turn in response. This all means the Aptera wheel has to be optimised much more than any other car. Even the motors were revised to be closer to the use case and improve efficiency, that meant the peak power went down and cruise efficiency went up.
a 2 seater cant transport large families? really? this is news to you? lol
Hy 10 SHOCKING Reasons?
I was going to put in a down-payment for one, but had one question for them. In my state (and many others) this vehicle is not classified as a car. It is classified as a motorcycle. Although your video touched on that, you didn't follow it to its ramifications. It does not meet US safety crash tests and in my state, you must wear a helmet while in it.
Also, Aptera's response to my question was wishy-washy, double speak... how they're trying to get states to change their laws about the motorcycle connection. It bothered me that they glossed over the safety question. The response showed even more avoidance using the magic words like, "Formula One-inspired safety cell." With its motorcycle based design philosophy, it is lighter because it doesn't have the crush zones and intrusion steel needed to meet four-sided US safety impact tests. It is a simple matter of physics and should be obvious to anyone... an 1800 lb vehicle being hit by a 6000 lb SUV or pickup truck will not fair well. Most of the pickup trucks around here would drive right over it and not even notice the bump.
I think Aptera should be more forthright and specify that it doesn't meet United States "CAR" safety impact tests. I probably would give them a pass and still get one... but not if I have to wear a motorcycle helmet! It would be a cool car to have to do the normal errands and drive up in the mountains. I'm in my 60's and probably keep the deposit on a Cyber Truck.
You forgot to mention the small tires make it horrible for off-road drives and rock crawling.
Yep! No where to mount the winch, won’t fit my bead locks! 0-60 in 4 seconds could cause heart issues.
Idiotic comments. This is designed for the exact polar opposite of off roading.
Don't hit a podhole.😅😂
2 seater, deal breaker. Unfortunate.
This is another example of fake journalism and propaganda. Why buy an Aptera it only has 2 seats and not for a family.
What a genius, it is a motor cycle..Do investors but 2 seat cars for family’s. Dumb
The main reason, of course, is due to Big Auto not wanting competition and the pricing is through the roof....You poor and low income need to work on your walking skills anyway....
Its pretty sneaky. You are putting out all the silly nonimportant reasons not to buy it so there is no good
reasons not to buy it. Aptera is putting all the money into the promotions for the non refundable deposits.
A Ponzi game ? The front wheel fenders look great, but they will hit every bump on the road.
What about a head-on accident ? Are these not " shocking reasons " ?
i quit after the first obtuse reasons you might not want this. If you have a big family, this might not be for you since its only a two-seater. Fine, but you go in repetitive borning depth on this obvious point.
This video borders on the idiotic, from the idiotic side. Thank you Captain Obvious.
You missed the fact that the Aptera is poorly suited for rough/dirt roads. The 3 wheel design makes it more difficult to avoid potholes. The wheel covers have low ground clearance and will likely be scratched, dented, and damaged on rough roads.
this video wasted of my time
So the 10 reasons contain 5 reasons that are blatantly obvious when or even before buying the vehicle, 2 valid reasons and 3 non-existent reasons, maybe to be added later? Nice waste of RUclips storage.
I see the Aptera as more of a novelty. I see the wealthy buying one, driving it around as a look at me, and then being relegated to the back of the garage. Cheers!
You missed so many reasons not to buy this turd. Here are a few more reasons; wider than an F250 Raptor, worse turning radius than an F250 long bed, awkward ingress and egress, wrong driving position ergonomics, not drive-thru friendly, obstructed side view half windows, lift hight to back hatch too high for a cooler full of beer and ice, sacrificial wheel skirts, not required to have the same safety systems as a car, hasn't been crash tested.
They said 10 in the title and gave 7. How dumb is that? But the No.1 reason not to buy is it doesn't exist - nobody can buy one if they wanted to. A long wait for a Toyota is different - the Toyota exists.
@@aussieideasman8498 I think they were paid off by Aptera to not mention the other 3 reasons.
@@doclees11 Hardly likely; the CEOs are skiing in St Moritz.
Oh s*** you make a valid point. In parking lots, it would be tough to put the ticket in the machine from inside this car.
@@nbgoodiscore1303 can't fit medium to large drinks through the window either. If you are next to the pay window and drop your card/money you probably can't open the butterfly door to get it. Yeah parking lot ticket machines could be an issue. As one tries to get close, scrape goes the wheel skirts.
Anyone that buys a non-commodity car today with resale value as a major decision point is a fool.
Anyone who does not understand that these autocycles are so cheap to own and operate that they pay for themselvs in just 8 years is a fool. My Arcimoto insurance is just $132/yr. By year 8 that will have saved me (in 2022 dollars) $8,000! Even with a zero resale value (factually the battery packs have a high resale value) I will save the other $10,000 in purchase price within 8 years by having no ICE vehicle expenses all that time. You sound like a poorly qualified accountant.
Only crazy people who would want one of these unsafe cars. So saying everyone is talking about this car is BS. Most people are only interested in cars that are in production and this car is still only a dream.
This car reminds me of good old ELIO. Car. It is not a safe car
Will not be approved as a safe car by government
All readers - bookmark this idiot's comment and come back in a year to inform him of the highway safety commission approval rating. My Arcimoto autocycle had no problem passing a standard 22G crash test. It is far safer than the Aptera design but with room for error. My 6 point harness means I need no air bags or safety gear at all to be safe.
the aptera is a crapshoot. a solution in search of a problem! just make a sleek carbon 4 wheel car. or make two cars one smal two seater for the city where aerodynamics is irrelevant and a bigger 5 seat one for familys!
apart from the unique look and crazy range it has the carbon monocoqe and solarcells going for it.
you could easily bring that to more practical and therefore more traditional cars.
and who cares if the 4 wheel version would be 20 or 30% less efficient?
at the rate battery prices are going down you can just fit in a bigger battery!
so this thing is not the future but a very bolt and interesting curiosity.
Views hungry video, no valid reasons to not buy this 25k vehicle