@@n2snow I don't like walking in the snow either but if this guy was in the same situation he wouldn't still be climbing up a mountain Would he ? This guy could have saved himself three or$4,000 to fix it that is if he's lucky. Sometimes it's just a stuck ring and if you pull over and stop and let it cool down you just might get it going back home...City boy ,,?
@n2snow hell ya! I've always talked to mine like they were dirty wife's, "you leave me stranded, I leave you!" See ya in the spring bitches!!! I'm in KY so they weren't sleds, just bikes and quads LOL😂
Father has a '93? Elan 50th Anniversary Edition 250 Single-Lunger... Love that machine. 1 finger to lift the tail. When it somehow gets stuck, you can pickup the whole dang thing and just move it over 3ft to the left and go. That Guilty Pleasure of a Sled dragged my '97 SX 700 with frozen/locked-up 136" picked track across the lake for 100ft before the bearings broke free & started rolling -- then we continued at its Max Speed of 28mph 😄🙂 (I mighta sank my Yamaha in the lake the night before. Yup. Took about 6hrs to strip it, dry it, drain water from the fuel tank, and put it back together - then I was back on it again. Soooo anyways, after winching it 100yds through the water, it had frozen on land while we were packing-up the flat bottom canoe, winch w/100ft of cable, 200ft of Rope, Tow Truck J-Hook, etc)
And that’s why I ride a 2012 artic cat snow pro 800. With the Suzuki motor in it. Things a beast and reliable 162 track with all the bells and whistles. She rips the powder like a dream. With tons of power.
How many miles before it blew. You’re supposed to change the crank seal behind the clutch and re pack that bearing with isoflex grease every 1500 miles.
I had, it blew up. Now I got a 1200 4tec, and then will be an ace. For trails, xtra weight is worth it. Electric start and go. Sleds start at 15k and up now, no thankyou
That snow doesn’t look packed down enough for it. Believe me I had a red 05 viper Yamaha and it did not like the way the snow didn’t cool it down well enough
All these 800/850 motors are only good for maybe 2500 miles. What a shame these manufacturers can't make a 2 stroke last. Best with just a 600. Sad but true.
Sad is ppl can't take care of there sleds and don't follow recommendations... I've always had and owned high milage sleds! Lol I strip them down every year!
😂😂😂😂 unreal. That’s why I never went big bore. Stayed 600 and have had zero issues. Doesn’t matter the brand. It’s all 800/850’s blowing up. Not 600’s 🤔👌
Absolutely the truth! Only problem, I like more power. This 850 ran perfect up to about 4500 miles. Ran it four year’s without a problem. So that’s not too bad. My 800’s only got about 1700 miles. So they are getting better. Thanks for commenting!!👍👍👍
Interesting. Don’t you have to absolutely rag on a 600 in the mountains though? I would think the big bore would take it better. More HP to spare means you don’t have to keep it pinned as long or as often.
@@brettjohnson1393That’s the thing though you can run the living snot out of a 600 and they just last and last. You don’t have to run the big bores nearly as hard, but they just don’t last as long. I have no idea why.
Open the "left" side panel by releasing 3 lock mechanisms (same side as belt/clutch) you will notice a semitransparent jug. Now take some XPS 2-Stroke oil snd fill that container...if you can't afford XPS any ole Canola oil should suffice!
maybe not holding it at the same throttle position for ever would help blip the go fast lever every once in a while.let me guess the pto side let go cyl scuffed and a big o hole just below the reed cage.
@@n2snow yup that will do it.i have had a few e'tecs come thru from my older guys cruising along and kick a rod and when I pull up the parameters the t.p.s was at 5300 rpms for miles.and watched the Temps just climb and climb.everything checked out on them and putting them back together and never had a problem since.maybe a fluke but had 5 or 6 come in popped.
There must have been an extenuating circumstances from the factory or prep from the individual! You should be able to ride these sleds less aggressive and without taxing the engines! They should also Thrive at high RPM as long as there is resistance at the track that doesn't allow the motor to over rev and blow! Something going on here?
No context, miles, hours, gas quality, oil quality. If the intent is to suggest the entirety of 850 are prone to premature demise....the statistics say..... that is a lie. Better luck with your next sled.
Oh Boy.. Just got my 2016 XP 550 fan cooled Ski-doo in the shop since it would not start . I had to tow it with my 1997 GT triple with just under 4000 miles ..After that it started revving faster and then blew out a coolant hose . Think it time to go 4 stroke:)
It didn't sound healthy.. I don't have an 850 but they look way faster than that. 98' xc 700 polaris has 8k miles on it since last rebuild & runs like a champ😆 if what people say is true, 2500 miles is lame.. especially if you threw a rod threw the case and bulkhead, ouch.. good video tho
2 strokes are like diesels. If you just pussy foot around and ride like this they will blow. Gotta be fluctuating the throttle so it can burn everything out instead of building up
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Step one: ride it like a 4 stroke at low rpm
It was already starting to lockup. He had it to the bars the whole time
it blew up cold seizing before he left the property his house is on
From the beginning of the video it sounded like a rod was about to say hello
Ski doo quality
The motor sounded flat and powerless from the get go. It was warning you Something bad was about to happen.
@coldairbuick ; It was running on one cylinder. It had already dropped one cylinder.
Sleds from the late 90s/early 2000s were more reliable than sleds today.
They also have a quarter of the power to 😂
Atleast you could ride them.
@@tristanwolfe7924they got lots of power just bad tracks
Also ride like a brick.
Idk about that!! Maybe some of them
That's right keep pushing until you're running on one cylinder and keep on pushing it some more.. Don't bother looking at the temperature gauge
I’m 78 years old and don’t like walking in 4’ soft snow. I ran it wide open until it absolutely wouldn’t move another inch!!!
@@n2snow I don't like walking in the snow either but if this guy was in the same situation he wouldn't still be climbing up a mountain Would he ?
This guy could have saved himself three or$4,000 to fix it that is if he's lucky.
Sometimes it's just a stuck ring and if you pull over and stop and let it cool down you just might get it going back home...City boy ,,?
@@jeffreyhagelin3672 Like the title says “How to Blow Up an 850 Etec” I did an exceptional job.
@@n2snow You certainly did... It's your money..
@n2snow hell ya! I've always talked to mine like they were dirty wife's, "you leave me stranded, I leave you!"
See ya in the spring bitches!!! I'm in KY so they weren't sleds, just bikes and quads LOL😂
Yup that’s how you blow up an etec. Normal slow casual riding is all it takes.
@Scott CCI
So this sled really blew up because he wasn’t giving it the beans
@@joebrown967 no lol most likely not
Just got the engine out. It threw a rod through the block and through the sled bulkhead under the engine.
That sled blew up long b4 it stopped...shut her down!!
push rod on a 2 stroke, huh, thats weird
@@leosypher9993I don't see push in the wording at all 90% or so ice engines have connecting rods though.
@@leosypher9993he never said push rod. "Threw a rod through the block". He means a connecting rod
Yer smart, Leo.
Still rocking my 93 skandic 503 super long track. 121 psi rebuilt in 2001 and abused since then.
Ive seen elans run harder than that and survive 😂
Same I got one
Had elans in the 70’s and they ran great!
I LOVE Elans!!👍👍
I'm looking for another Elan. The were slow but super reliable.
Father has a '93? Elan 50th Anniversary Edition 250 Single-Lunger... Love that machine. 1 finger to lift the tail. When it somehow gets stuck, you can pickup the whole dang thing and just move it over 3ft to the left and go.
That Guilty Pleasure of a Sled dragged my '97 SX 700 with frozen/locked-up 136" picked track across the lake for 100ft before the bearings broke free & started rolling -- then we continued at its Max Speed of 28mph 😄🙂
(I mighta sank my Yamaha in the lake the night before. Yup. Took about 6hrs to strip it, dry it, drain water from the fuel tank, and put it back together - then I was back on it again. Soooo anyways, after winching it 100yds through the water, it had frozen on land while we were packing-up the flat bottom canoe, winch w/100ft of cable, 200ft of Rope, Tow Truck J-Hook, etc)
Remember number #1 rule.
only go far as you wanna walk.
I'm still rocking my 1995 ski doo touring sle with a 500 fan
And that’s why I ride a 2012 artic cat snow pro 800. With the Suzuki motor in it. Things a beast and reliable 162 track with all the bells and whistles. She rips the powder like a dream. With tons of power.
genuine question…what was the probablem on the way he was riding??
New 600 Cat is your best option
The hills I climb, I think I need more power. Six hundreds hold up good for sure. 😊😊😊
they just dont make em like they used to.
How did you get it back?
Puuuuuuuuure juuuuuuuuunk
How many miles before it blew. You’re supposed to change the crank seal behind the clutch and re pack that bearing with isoflex grease every 1500 miles.
I had, it blew up. Now I got a 1200 4tec, and then will be an ace. For trails, xtra weight is worth it. Electric start and go. Sleds start at 15k and up now, no thankyou
how many mille you do with tank of gaz sir
@@jacquespage888 about 215 kms
tksMarco@@marcodm
Damn. And in that snow 😭😭
So what are you riding the rest of the winter?
I have a 2020 Summit 165
That snow doesn’t look packed down enough for it. Believe me I had a red 05 viper Yamaha and it did not like the way the snow didn’t cool it down well enough
This entire video, I was running wide open throttle and running on one cylinder. Other cylinder had already shelled out.
Did ya think to pull the plug on the dead cylinder 😂
@@humai771 if I had thought of it, I couldn’t do it without tools and temp was 0° in 3’ of snow. But good idea.
And I’m 80 years old!
@@n2snow actually???
Any yamaha rx1, apex 4 stroke 4 banger. 36000 km on mine. Never touched it yet. Good luck guys
I also have a rx1, 12 000km, but I’m thinking about changing it for a summit Neo 600 efi. RX1 is nice for speeding but dogshit in powder
All these 800/850 motors are only good for maybe 2500 miles. What a shame these manufacturers can't make a 2 stroke last. Best with just a 600. Sad but true.
My 98 cat has over 5000miles lol
@@Eighty8Fitter Triple? Or Twin?
@@ropo772 600 twin
Lol I have over 8000 miles on my ski doo 850 etec! My last sled a 800 etec had 7500 miles still 150 psi compression
Sad is ppl can't take care of there sleds and don't follow recommendations... I've always had and owned high milage sleds! Lol I strip them down every year!
My dad has almost 30,000 on his 99 mxz 500 motor has never been touched he religiously maintains it every year
Don’t take much I tell ya what, but damn they can rip
I rode it another quarter mile, but then it completely shelled out.
Daum man, a bombadire?
@@BurchellAtTheWharf
Absolutely!
@@n2snow I love them Canadian builds but we can make em better ,#homebuilt
never relay on onboard premixing, disable and premix your own fuel.
How do you get that out of there then?
2011 cat 800 6000 hard miles still running strong
Meh, I got 04 firecat 700, over 10k kms still going strong
Those Suzuki motors are the best
Not a 1990's skidoo
Rotax. At least they are better than they used to be. Owned many in the past. Brutal for a long time.
850's love the high rpm range, hole reason why the weight/hp overtook the poor girl...
Hard to beat fresh pow, but fresh pow and driftz fack nothing better
Don’t have that problem with my Yamaha apes se.😅
Working it to hard? How many miles?
Little over 4000 miles
@@n2snow I have 3500 miles on my 850 still going strong at this point
That's why I'll never buy another Two stroke
My 900 ACE would have loved it out there.
That Thing sounds horrible right off the bat 🦇. Maybe let it warm up a bit before you ride it. Or buy a Arcticcat lol
What did he do wrong????
Did the little Boo thang
Locked up?
Yes! Threw a rod through the block.
@@n2snow that be a brutally hard day, I'm feeling for yea my guy
@@n2snow to much boost er not enough crank? Turbs free life, I can wait to have a build on rip
My 13yr old 4tec starts and goes quick, EVERYTIME
I got a decently hard 4700 on my 16 etec and it hasn’t had any problems yet knock on wood
Dude how do you have all that fresh snow and you aren’t standing it up or carving lol I’d be going crazy if I had snow like that
I was running wide open but one cylinder had already shelled out. I’m 80 years old and I was trying to make it back to my truck!
😂😂😂😂 unreal. That’s why I never went big bore. Stayed 600 and have had zero issues. Doesn’t matter the brand. It’s all 800/850’s blowing up. Not 600’s 🤔👌
Absolutely the truth! Only problem, I like more power. This 850 ran perfect up to about 4500 miles. Ran it four year’s without a problem. So that’s not too bad. My 800’s only got about 1700 miles. So they are getting better. Thanks for commenting!!👍👍👍
800 polaris and 7000km and no problems🤷🏼♂️
Interesting. Don’t you have to absolutely rag on a 600 in the mountains though? I would think the big bore would take it better. More HP to spare means you don’t have to keep it pinned as long or as often.
@n2snow So was this engine failure mostly from age? Thanks.
@@brettjohnson1393That’s the thing though you can run the living snot out of a 600 and they just last and last. You don’t have to run the big bores nearly as hard, but they just don’t last as long. I have no idea why.
How many miles was on it?
Little over 4000
Who tf was recording I didn’t see a shadow of a go pro or anything… was it a drone ? Idk
It is an Insta360 camera mounted on top of helmet.
In my shadow you can see it.
@@n2snow that’s pretty cool. Technology came a long way from even the early 2000’s. I guess you do learn something everyday
Hole in piston?
No, it threw a rod. Went through to block.
I thought all you had to do was own one 🤔
First step, buy one
Second step ride it
How to blow up any ski doo Step 1 spend $18000. Step two, try to enjoy yourself riding it.
Was prolly them rusty cyl walls..
How to blow it up: Drive it, its a Skidoo
Open the "left" side panel by releasing 3 lock mechanisms (same side as belt/clutch) you will notice a semitransparent jug. Now take some XPS 2-Stroke oil snd fill that container...if you can't afford XPS any ole Canola oil should suffice!
Good idea! I’ll try it!!👍👍👍
maybe not holding it at the same throttle position for ever would help blip the go fast lever every once in a while.let me guess the pto side let go cyl scuffed and a big o hole just below the reed cage.
It threw a rod. Probably because it was water hydro locked last spring.
@@n2snow yup that will do it.i have had a few e'tecs come thru from my older guys cruising along and kick a rod and when I pull up the parameters the t.p.s was at 5300 rpms for miles.and watched the Temps just climb and climb.everything checked out on them and putting them back together and never had a problem since.maybe a fluke but had 5 or 6 come in popped.
There must have been an extenuating circumstances from the factory or prep from the individual! You should be able to ride these sleds less aggressive and without taxing the engines! They should also Thrive at high RPM as long as there is resistance at the track that doesn't allow the motor to over rev and blow! Something going on here?
No context, miles, hours, gas quality, oil quality. If the intent is to suggest the entirety of 850 are prone to premature demise....the statistics say..... that is a lie. Better luck with your next sled.
Oh Boy.. Just got my 2016 XP 550 fan cooled Ski-doo in the shop since it would not start . I had to tow it with my 1997 GT triple with just under 4000 miles ..After that it started revving faster and then blew out a coolant hose . Think it time to go 4 stroke:)
My little ovation handles better than my 600 in a place like that, because it only weighs 200 lbs XD
I could hear it from the start 😩
That's what you get for putting a Polaris motor in a Skidoo lol😂. Seriously though, why did this happen?
Step one ski doo don't float
Bwaaap, bwaaap. 👍
That's how?! Just ride it around on a flat snowfield like that's what it's made for! WTF.
typical 2 stroke 🙄 😒 after 5000 miles
That thing didn’t sound healthy from the word go.
That 850 should be held to the bar more 2 strokes don't like low rpm😂
I’m a skidoo guy but the 850 etecs aww absolute trash engines, seems like there just full of issues
It’s a ski doo thing
It didn't sound healthy.. I don't have an 850 but they look way faster than that. 98' xc 700 polaris has 8k miles on it since last rebuild & runs like a champ😆 if what people say is true, 2500 miles is lame.. especially if you threw a rod threw the case and bulkhead, ouch.. good video tho
98 Xc 700 was the best sled in my opinion. I rode one for 20 years
Give it a like and comment.
Step 1 buy an 850 enstead of an 800
That’s ridiculous. Will every e tech lock up like that. How fragile are they? Pathetic really.
when i doubt. throttle out
She's bogging from the beginning of the vid
Should have bought a cat!
Just have a good time finding a dealer
Anything over 2000miles will do it
Poooof!!!!
Why did I cringe the whole video 😂
Good bye crank
I see what the problem is, it’s a skidoo 😂 shoulda bought an Artic Cat!
Big heaping pile of bull gore😂
2 strokes are like diesels. If you just pussy foot around and ride like this they will blow. Gotta be fluctuating the throttle so it can burn everything out instead of building up
The warranty is probably about to run out, hes killing it on purpose
Get a polaris 😂
Wow poor guys
This should not have happened
Two poke junk 😂
That’s not good
Amen!
That’s not even an 850
2017 Summit SP. all they came with was an 850 Two stroke engine.
It sounded sluggish maybe its just what I heard tho😊
It was running on one cylinder from start of vid clip.
How????
Let someone like you maintain it.
Should bye polaris at least they last lol
It sounds stock, you were riding like a little girl 👧 so the only way it could fail is you had no ( zero) injector oil.
Jfc garbage. How do you guys love this junk nowadays? Give me the 80s sleds please lord 😂😂