lol, but i'm surprised you don't know who Deviant is, he has 100s of defcon talks and other presentations online. he pops up all over the place... well I guess that's hes job to just pop into places >__
Here is a video showing most of the lock picking lawyer from behind. You still do not see his face from the front, but this is the best video that I have seen that shows the lock picking lawyer. ruclips.net/video/1jSHwaOR_eo/видео.html LPL Meets Bosnian Bill
I keep saying this. The dude stands too still. It's really quite amazing. And I suppose that talent would be an asset in his line of work. But at the point your instinct tells you there's nothing moving there, while still seeing eyes.... That shit's creepy man. My brain no likey-likey.
Could you imagine, someone removes your hinge pins, can't get in because of the blockers. Next day you open your door and the entire door falls on you.
These are the best solution for doors like that lol I'm a painter and this tool was a game changer. It doesn't even matter if the pins are bent these are badass
@@davidbahr9612 maintenance at an apt complex here if that’s the case I might just have to get one because my complex is almost 50 years old and the painters always just painted over the hinges in the past. The paint is thicker than the actual hinges haha. Still surprising must be a high powered spring or something just seems weak on camera
maybe in America with drywall, but in Europe walls are either reinforced concrete or at least bricks. So maybe access trough the roof would be the best option xD
@@tashkiira7838 certainly you're correct, but I said OCD alert, because just like me, that botter me a little the fact of the work didn't get done completely. OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder)
I own and have used this tool at least weekly for the last four months. I have used this tool to assist in removing doors for the purposes of re carpeting houses. So far I have found six hinge pins that come out that easily, for the most part pins with any old paint or dried up oil will take 3-4 hits to get the pin to move one inch, but from there the pins are easy to remove with a hammer and mini wrecking bar. I have had three occasions where the pins are so corroded or gummed up with something that the spring tool was about as much good as my carpenters pencil! The times the pins popped like shown here were all new builds with no paint or oil/grease on the pins. Do I regret buying it? No! Would I recommend this tool to a fellow tradie? Absolutely! Even if only to loose the bottom door pin. Nothing worse than trying to swing a hammer onto a punch in six inches of space.
FYI, there's a slightly easier tool called a 'hinge pin remover tool'. These are super old and not really meant to use as hinge pin removers. The ones that are purpose built you just line em up, give em a whack with a hammer and it's way easier. What they're using is an old spring center punch with a little rod on it, they've had these since the 70's that I know of and they're as the name says a centerpunch normally, but they weren't great for that. What they WERE great for was for sinking in trim nails.
Yes, it’s the same company that makes them, using the same concept for both. Just bought mine today and it comes with a finishing nail driver; they make you buy them as a pair $$
@@HOTA_CHATON it's not a fake hinge, it's just a pin that gets removed a lot due to having these sorts of demonstrations. doors pins will tighten up over time, but that just means it'll come out slowly or requires a couple hits as opposed to jumping out. The technique still works no problem.
@@kjamison5951 But the hinges doesnt have to go outside like that. All my doors that leads to the outside have hinges that cant be seen from the outside
@@reinhardreynecke300 I liked the joke! I should have read the video title before replying though. My mental elevator was stuck in the basement. The answer was just one floor up and I still didn’t reach it. That feels worse…
These videos have been entertaining. I’m sorry to see them come to an end, but I appreciate all the information you guys have shared with us. Thank you to both of you
If you give Deviant Ollam a search here on RUclips he's got his own channel and he's also done many talks at security conventions. Some good content out there.
No, but the crowd that watches Deviant/LPL contains a lot of people probably with good stakes or high positions in places that could be vulnerable to this due to fire safety codes.
@@dodgeplow Many doors on single family houses, at least in sweden, have doors opening outwards. Probably due to weather, you do not want snow following the door in when opened. But I also know that there are hinges with built in protection like those screws, right in the hinge plates.
Most don’t, and as Deviant Ollam says in his security talks that is obviously the safest option. However, if you do have a door like this, a jam pin is much cheaper than rehanging the door with the hinge on the inside.
When I was in construction and demolition I used these little spring hammers to remove dozens of doors, but let me tell you the pins usually don’t come out that easily lol.
@@TheDevilockedzombie You use breaching rounds so that, you don't kill someone on the other side of the door. It will also prevent ricochet and spalling. That's why you don't use buckshot or slugs.
i have only seen hinge pins come out that easily with a brand new hinge, coated in teflon, greased with silicone, on leap year, during the winter solstice, with all the planets and the sun aligned, during a solar flare, and with a full lunar eclipse.
Kinetic energy matters my dude. You could easily scale this tool up to a point where any hinge that isnt rusted shut, and even some that are, pop free quicker than an Abra uses Teleport.
Also, anyone who does not have the sort of pins in the door which stick to the door post (dont't know the english term) on outward opening doors, just wants to be burglard...
Seriously. I hat to take some hinge pins out on my 30+ year old doors. Took a solid half hour of hammer and oil. That spring thing would not have moved them at all, much less make them fly off.
Hahaha this series of videos was my introduction to Deviant Ollam quite a while back. I've since fallen down a rabbit hole of his content here on RUclips, Twitter, etc. and it's funny coming back and seeing these with their awkward vibe when I know now he's such an engaging and not at all awkward dude.
I've removed a lot of doors over the years (mostly to get the extra inch or two for moving a large object in or out of a house) and not one single hinge pin has EVER been that loose.
Commercial back doors usually swing outward. In case there is a fire it's easier and quicker to get out. These doors are equipped with non-removable pins
@@jb3536 Fair, In Sweden fire safety rules dictate that our doors need to open outwards to ensure free passage during an emergency, if a fire starts, you should be able to rush and open the door without having to stop to swing it backwards, especially helpful if people are panicked and crowding near the door. I'm glad commercial doors open outwards in the US! And whats the deal with doorknobs!? Ive never seen one in my entire life, but they seem like such a slippery hassle and probably even worse for bacteria seeing as its harder to use the shirt to hold the "knob"
@@chromatic91 In most of Europe doors that lead outside have to open outwards for securtiy reasons. In case of an emergency you can get out faster that way. Also in public buildings the doors have to be openable from the inside at all times for the same reason.
The funniest thing is that none of the methods shown in this series would work on my bathroom door. If I replaced the warded lock with something more sophisticated, I'd have a bathroom more impervious than whatever's behind this door.
@@Lrripper It's actually not very weird, at least not for America. For legal reasons, they can't use a doorknob, they have to use a door handle for disability access. Simple rubber weatherstripping won't stop any of these attacks, so 99% of business/commercial/public doors are vulnerable to the over-door and under-door attacks (most likely, dunno the actual statistics). Improper fitment of the strike plate causing the dead latch to not engage is even more common - I don't think I've ever seen a properly-fitted door. That means that the latch-slipping attack is possible on most doors. Finally, the hinge side requires that security hinges not be in use - surprisingly frequently, they are not. It also requires that you be on the right side of the door, but there's roughly 50% odds of that.
I have seen many office and house doors here in south Europe and pretty much none of these methods would work. I love LPL but this mini series was rather subpar. None of these methods were anything special and more importantly they d never work on like 9/10 doors I have seen...My cheap ass house doors are well enough fitted and with their frames prevent 4/4 of these attacks.
@@Terjesel Ah, yeah, that makes sense. I wasn't even aware of the fire codes, I was just going off of "well there's two sides they could be on, and they're only gonna be on one of those."
Incredible!!! I carried that particular tool in one of my small plastic tool boxes for close to 40 years and never knew what it was for - it's never been used... until today! Thank you for that! :)
In the Netherlands, something called Dievenklauw "Thieve's claw" has been standard on houses for decades. nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dievenklauw They are a standard part of hinge, window or door designs, and have been for decades, including national building codes.
I’ve been doing a really low cost modification to all my doors for years. I just drill a few holes on the edge of the door near each of the hinges. I then install an Allen Head Cap Screw into each hole. It really doesn’t matter if you use a wood or machine thread since there will be no load on the screws. Then I close the door enough for the screw heads to make impressions in the jam and finish by drilling corresponding holes in the jam for the screw heads. Cost is about $2 for the screws and it takes less than 15 minutes. No need to buy expensive specialty screws or to remove screws from the hinge that the manufacturer obviously thought needed to be there.
@@f1rebreather123 Its very possible to kick an outward opening door in it just takes alot more effort, i can do it with only medium amounts of effort but im also a 6'7 350lb dude that worked on a farm most my life
@@BIGxPAPAxRYAN certainly doesn't hurt when your muscles are larger simply because your frame is larger. Strongest 4' man and an average build 7' man... My bets on the tall guy. I've noodle arms and I can lift 30kg up to my chest. Probably doesn't hurt that I'm ~6'1 give or take an inch. You feel?
Commercial doors that swing outward from a building usually have NRP (non removable pin) hinges that have an Allen screw that secured the pin that can only be accessed when the door is opened.
Not just commercial. In my house most hinges are 2-part, no separate pin, just the bottom part of the hinge milled so that the pin is an integral part of it. To remove the door you must open it wide and lift off the pins. Or alternatively the pin doesn't go all the way through but is completely enclosed within the two sides of the hinge, no openings on the ends.
Yeah this was what I want to know as someone in the door, frame & hardware industry: would this work on an NRP hinge? My gut says no but that depends on how much force that little tool generates.
@@sharpfang Did you build those doors yourself? if you (or the person that build your house) has bought the doors from somewhere, those are commercial doors. Commercial doors doesn't mean doors to commercial buildings, but commercially made and sold doors.
@@RoninXDarknight nice thing about springs is you can always get a stronger one, hell you could put a 30lb spring on that thing and just punch out the lock.
The last thing you want to hear outside your front door: "This is the LockPickingLawyer, and what I have for you today...." EDIT: Wai... what? 2K likes? EDIT2: This is still going? 3K likes now? O_O
Hi! I help make these tools. We are a company of about a dozen people in the inland NW called Spring Tools. That tool is called a CARP. We sell hundreds of thousands of them to sherwin williams because they are popular with painters. We also make nail setters/finishers, steel center punches, wood chisels, stamping sets and more.
Good that you do... If you really care you'd advise people rather than take advantage of them. It's a legit tool on the backside, but the hinge BS is just that. Hinges go on the INSIDE.
@Stimpy&Ren In the US all dwellings have doors that swing in. As a carpenter I know of many simple ways to make your doors kick proof as all my doors are. It would take a lot more than a police battering ram to knock in one of my doors.
@Stimpy&Ren Also just so you know with the way you describe its not the whole frame keeping the door closed just a 1 and a half inch strip usually attached with some brad nails. A door that opens in is actually much easier to beef up for someone that knows what they are doing.
I'd guess an even split of theives, home defense enthusiasts, picking hobbyists, and people who enjoy listening to this man ruin a company's reputation in the calmest voice ever.
PnP Tea honestly it just popped into my feed one day and I started watching. So there’s the “youtube suggested this and now I’m just hooked” group, too
When you remove the hinge pins from an out-swinging doors, the hinge knuckles mounted to the frame is still blocking the door from being easily pulled open. It can be done in a situation where one doesn't care about marring the door (ex. thief) , but this technique is not as easy or damage free as indicated.
@Toxic Delirium I've had to pop the hinges on a door and open it for emergency response, and I've never had it done easily. My standard rule of thumb (and one building owners covered by my fire department are aware of) is that if I have to open the door, they're going to need a new door.
Not necessarily welded, but at the very least they should have "NRP" designation (non-removable pins) which adds a set screw to the pin, or another style of burglar-resistant hinge that has a metal tab on one leaf and a corresponding hole on the other leaf.
umm Thats not an outside door its an inside door, dev is a pen tester he will get into your building.. and then lets say your server room is locked.. and it has the hinges on the exterior.. Boom now hes in your server room. This is 1 technique.. he has 100 others if your hinges ARNT on his side.. lol.
I used to work for a window and door manufacturer, with every outswing door we used NRP (non-removable pin) hinges. Does anyone actually use regular hinges on outswing doors? I like your videos but I wonder about this one.
Probably only in hotels and rental apartments in a building with a lot of units where property owners can have an easy access to tenants that vandalize and or refuse to pay or leave eviction purposes.
Sadly.... Some places don't fully attempt to foil these things and have other reasons not to... 3 door to the back room of our store, one a single door, the other 2 are butterfly double doors. One of the butterfly receiving doors has hinges on the outside... "Incase the fire department needs to get in". I guess windows are hard to break and\or the jaws of life don't work lmao.
Thank you for this tutorial. I need to remove hinge pins on one of my doors- not to break into my own house, but to remove the door to work on it. I already have a spring-loaded center punch (for woodworking), so I’m ready to go.
This spring tool company actually makes like a dozen different ones, I have the awl, nail setter, cold chisel, 3/16 nail set, 5/16 nail set, and a flat spring hammer. My next buy is probably going to be the spring letter stamping set, but that thing runs about $65 on Amazon
Locks only keep out stupid people. It seems that people who choose a life of crime are usually pretty stupid to begin with. The smart people who could break in are smart enough not to live a life of crime...
When I was on the fire department years ago we all had one of these in our coats for car accidents. If a person was trapped inside we could put it at the lower corner of the side door window and pull, it would shatter the glass and the glass would fall straight down instead of hitting it with a hammer that would send the glass all over the place
Many years ago I accidentally locked myself out, the fire brigade who were in attendance at the time offered to let me back in with a Halligan. I said no thank you and demonstrated how to gain entry with a leatherman tool.
@@inregionecaecorum so you locked yourself out waited for the firemen to ask if you needed any help so you could decline and open it yourself? Sounds believable.
@@Flaggyt Actually I locked myself out because the fire brigade had evacuated the building and I left rather quickly without my keys, that is why they were still there when they gave the all clear to go back in.
@@inregionecaecorum so the fire brigade locked you out? I would seriously doubt professional firefighters would lock people out of a building after a fire call-out. Obviously you didn't lock yourself out, because you would not have been the last person inside. And if you *were* the last person inside, the fire brigade could not have entered to "all clear" the building if the door were locked. Again, sounds believable.
@@CadillacDriver No I left my flat without my keys and the door locked itself, my flat is in the building, the Fire brigade were in the building, not in my flat, they called us all to evacuate because there was a fire in the block in another flat and after they had extinguished the fire, they invited us back in the building that is to say the communal entrance, you don't understand apartment blocks do you?
I use this tool a lot. Quite often I find that I need to adjust the hinges on doors to readjust the door correctly in the door frame. To adjust the hinges, I first need to pop the pin out, and this tool is the best way that I've found to do that. Even tough pins eventually give in to this tool.
I watched this as it released. Little did I know it was the same guy who's entry method presentation I'd watched many years ago. I'm so glad to see LPL found him as enlightening as I did.
When you have a swat team waiting outside but youre not worried because you have a metal triple locking prison front door but then you hear the swat guys say "get the lockpicking lawyer"
So professional door and door hardware installer here.. So I won't deny that jam pin screws, or just buying hinges with the same concept built in, are effect but one important thing to note. Any time you have a reverse swing door (butt of hinge on outside) the hinges are almost always NRP (Non Removable Pin). Basically it's just a small set screw that keeps the pin from being easily removed. While the pin can still be removed it takes an exceptional amount of force and time to destroy that set screw and force the pin out. Not feasible with the hinge pin removal tool showed in this video. I have a couple and they are more ment for commercial use during hardware installation or easy removal of interior doors. The only time a secure door, swinging out, will not have NRP hinges is if it's really really old or if someone hired amateurs to install the hardware and either didn't care or didn't know what they were doing.
@@SeanSkyhawk The hinge barrels are on the outside ( where the pins are) the hinge plates and screws are on the inside. Regardless, there is no locked door that can't be breached, especially if two of us together want to get in.
Thank you, as I age I could forget how to unlock my door, causing me to be stuck inside my home. With that handy tool, I would have a chance at survival, especially if I also forget how to do it with a screw-driver.
it doesn't matter, this was one of many methods to get a door off the hinges, ask Ukraine if it matters when a 12 gauge is blasting your lock and hinges off. guns are illegal for you, criminals dont care about law. the doors is going to open. by tool or firearm. your little french fancy door isnt shit but wood and and glass with a little iron or steel and brass
@@Steelface97 well obviously, I just made the point, "mate". how could it be contested before being made to begin with? lol. No ones contesting your point either. what about it?
Spring Tools! They are amazing. I got a 3-tool set at a garage sale for a dollar. I use them all the time. Found out later that set retails for $50, and worth every penny!
The thumbnail says 'Every entry team needs this tool!' but when have you ever seen an entry door with hinges on the outside? And any blunt tip center punch can do the same thing, 1-handed.
the thing about why you probably can't use those tricks on doors here in germany is because nobody would build in such a flawed door. i've never seen a door here that even has all those flaws, maybe only unsafe hinges
It depends on which way the door opens. It's one reason for having doors that open towards the house or apartment although it normally would make more sense to open them outwards as there's more space You always want to have the hinges on the inside. The under the door attack on the other hand works in a lot of commercial buildings, like hotels. If a door is a way out in case of emergency, like a fire, they're not allowed to have deadbolts and are required to unlock when using the handle.
1:03 - _"So, how does someone harden their door at home against this kind of attack?"_ Well, for starters, you don't buy a door with hinges on the security side.
Here in the Netherlands the front door opens inwards and the backdoor opens outwards... So the front door has no hinge visible on the outside, but the backdoor does.
@@DrDisasta That's just the way it is here in the Netherlands. But the door in the video isn't a door to a house I would think, but a storage-space or something like that... Still a bad video tho! ;)
those are used for pin nails to sink the pn nail into trim so their isnt a nailhead sticking out when you dont have the right pressure to sink the nail
LPL: “Okay, this is an Abus high security lock so I’m going to start with a medium torsion wrench and a short hook tool in the 25 thousandths. Nothing on one…” Deviant: “Hinge pins are out… and we’re in.”
@Biggus Dickus If you have jam pins installed like he suggests or security hinges it literally doesn't matter what side of the door the hinges are on. You are not getting through the door that way non destructively. In many applications you need access control in both directions. In other applications architecture constraints mandate that door opens in a direction incompatible with the desired access controls. Or the space you rented already has doors installed that are incompatible with the desired access controls. Then you can't decide to put the hinges on the "inside". So what are you supposed to do? Throw your hands up and go home defeated? No you do your damn job and make it secure anyway, which is my point.
my method of defeating this tool was discovered in my college apartment. 75 years of paint layered on the hinges from bad repainting makes the hinges a solid component.
Are separate hinge pins a USA thing? I dont think I've ever seen them in a buildings door. Only seen integrated pins so you need to fully open the door and lift it up to remove.
That doors got to be newly installed. Or, at least as recent as a few years. Not that I'm doubting the effectiveness of that tool but the velocity in which that pin came flying out of there. Nice hat too! Cascadia!
"Outstanding, Dave. And how does one remove a jam pin screw?" "Well, we have this little doodad here called a Jam Pin Eliminator. It'll take out a door even if it has a jam pin to stop the original device we showed you." "What an amazing device! And how would someone stop you if you did use a jam pin eliminator?" "Well, you have this thing called a hinge lock accelerator 300X stronger. You need a hinge lock accelerator remover for that to come off! Just make sure they don't have jam pin screws underneath them." "Thaaat was gonna be my next question - right on...!"
I know how to remove it, you don't. When the local FD had to get through a door someone did this stupidity on they just literally ripped the door out anyhow because well.. either they break or the hinge rips out, its' not fucking rocket science.
@@bentonrp Nope, a local dude put 'security screws' in his door and they popped the hinges cause it was a metal door. A lot of people have been carrying tools like this for decades, though they are nicer now. You know that spring loaded punch they use to break car windows? That's the next iteration of this device. It's just a spring center punch. All metal door, they popped hinges, put in a crowbar, ripped it right out anyhow.
Thanks for the instructions on drilling the 70MM Brinks lock as I had one on a storage unit that I had lost the keys for. I was going to grind it off with a griner but you can never find power at warehouse and all I could use was battery operated. I took 3 drill bits and an impact drill finally got it. There seem to be a hardened plate at the rear that I couldn't make a scratch in. I broke the first bit because i have Harbor Freight stuff the second wasn't doing anything to that hardened plate but a titanium bit in my rough and vibratinbg impact drill popped it right open.
Most personal spaces will have them inside yes. But in most commercial buildings, you will get burned by code as doors need to swing outward in case of fire to be compliant with safety regulations.
@@Volvary Yup, it is the opposite on your house for code reasons. On commercial buildings there are many ways to fix it so people can't do this such as captured pins etc.
So... Interior commercial hinges. Exteriors usually have set screws locking the pins in place. Even cheap entry from a big box store will have "security" style hinges with a bent pin on one leaf that fits in a recces on the other leaf. If it is an interior door I wouldn't bother with any of the methods shown. The thing you learn installing doors is if you want in go for the weakest link.......Which usually isn't the door with security hardware.... It's the wall next to the door. Cordless drill with 4 inch hole saw. Drill thru drywall, reach in and open door from other side... This also will work for most exterior doors on homes. Drill thru siding, sheathing, insulation and drywall. Open door...
I wonder, could you use one of the spring loaded centre punches for this purpose? The kind you push down on to compress the spring and at a certain point it releases and a striker used that spring to fly forward hitting the actual punch bit on the front, similar I'd imagine to this tool in effect\force
Not gonna find too many out swing entrydoors with that hinge, and the ones that are the hinge pins are weathered tight to the hinge from corrosion, oxidation, etc. The nail set being used doesn’t have the strength most times to pop pins in an older exterior door.
Not necessarily- they can replace the door and hinge pins and you'll never know they were there at all, whereas if they break a window, you're probably gonna notice it.
its actually code in florida. . . it hurricane proofs it as the hole door is resting against the frame as opposed to the whole door resting on the lock
Yeah, as Mike said, it is code for many doors- especially emergency exits, even in high security settings. I’ve been using these jam pin screw from Germany for years. You should really look into them. I’m constantly giving them to friends who are “hardening” interior closet doors for guns and other valuables.
Also many indoor safety doors. Like first thing that comes to mind is a server room door. Often wouldn't have to space to open inwards anyway and it's real expensive stuff in there you wanna keep safe.
I just hit the door enough that the frame breaks , sledgehammer. I have zero finesse I can break a anvil. It’s a special skill set organized chaos with a pinch of berserker
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Accidentally got here early and nearly had a heart attack when I saw a human face instead of hands
lol, but i'm surprised you don't know who Deviant is, he has 100s of defcon talks and other presentations online. he pops up all over the place... well I guess that's hes job to just pop into places >__
Here is a video showing most of the lock picking lawyer from behind. You still do not see his face from the front, but this is the best video that I have seen that shows the lock picking lawyer.
ruclips.net/video/1jSHwaOR_eo/видео.html
LPL Meets Bosnian Bill
@@CanadianBakin42O "Hi, this is the LockPickingLawyer, and I value my privacy and don't wish to show my face on film, please respect that."
Kinkajou1015 Feel that? That’s the satisfaction of having more likes for being a better person. Feels fucking awesome, doesn’t it?
You've not been following this series, then.
The dude looked like a stock image for a solid minute there
I was getting worried that I might have been the only one to notice
😂so true
*solid 2 minutes and 13 seconds
I keep saying this. The dude stands too still. It's really quite amazing. And I suppose that talent would be an asset in his line of work.
But at the point your instinct tells you there's nothing moving there, while still seeing eyes.... That shit's creepy man.
My brain no likey-likey.
I started looking for a watermark.
Could you imagine, someone removes your hinge pins, can't get in because of the blockers. Next day you open your door and the entire door falls on you.
You're not supposed to change both screws.
@@plywoodcarjohnson5412 There's no hinge, what are the screws supposed to do?
@Stimpy&Ren Why would you buy 500kg armored door with exposed hinges like these?
Plywoodcar Johnson it would be very considerate thief indeed that puts the pins back in the hinge after they’ve failed to open the door.
@Stimpy&Ren **looks at our door** yeah um, about that...
30 year old door: your spring is no match for my 15 layers of paint
Ahahahahah that one is good🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and actually so true🤣🤣
These are the best solution for doors like that lol I'm a painter and this tool was a game changer. It doesn't even matter if the pins are bent these are badass
@@davidbahr9612 maintenance at an apt complex here if that’s the case I might just have to get one because my complex is almost 50 years old and the painters always just painted over the hinges in the past. The paint is thicker than the actual hinges haha.
Still surprising must be a high powered spring or something just seems weak on camera
And if you manage to get through the layers of paint, the lead in it will attack you slowly.
@@EvilMrElmo they're amazing dude. I do a lot of renovations on 100 plus year old structures these kick ass
Remember kids... Once door security reaches a certain point, it's probably easier to just go through the wall.
Unless the wall is made of steel-reinforced concrete.
@@seneca983 Or stalinium:)
Honestly, of you do that much to your door, then you need to block your windows as well
maybe in America with drywall, but in Europe walls are either reinforced concrete or at least bricks. So maybe access trough the roof would be the best option xD
Some bastards even come down the chimney.
Aw, he didn't take the whole door off :(
Yeah i was hoping for that too.
TO be fair, putting a door back on its hinges is a lot more annoying than just closing it again.
Lol, OCD alert!
@@Brucap Am I wrong, tho?
@@tashkiira7838 certainly you're correct, but I said OCD alert, because just like me, that botter me a little the fact of the work didn't get done completely.
OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder)
Def had to scoop one of these up
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I own and have used this tool at least weekly for the last four months. I have used this tool to assist in removing doors for the purposes of re carpeting houses. So far I have found six hinge pins that come out that easily, for the most part pins with any old paint or dried up oil will take 3-4 hits to get the pin to move one inch, but from there the pins are easy to remove with a hammer and mini wrecking bar. I have had three occasions where the pins are so corroded or gummed up with something that the spring tool was about as much good as my carpenters pencil! The times the pins popped like shown here were all new builds with no paint or oil/grease on the pins.
Do I regret buying it? No! Would I recommend this tool to a fellow tradie? Absolutely! Even if only to loose the bottom door pin. Nothing worse than trying to swing a hammer onto a punch in six inches of space.
FYI, there's a slightly easier tool called a 'hinge pin remover tool'. These are super old and not really meant to use as hinge pin removers. The ones that are purpose built you just line em up, give em a whack with a hammer and it's way easier. What they're using is an old spring center punch with a little rod on it, they've had these since the 70's that I know of and they're as the name says a centerpunch normally, but they weren't great for that. What they WERE great for was for sinking in trim nails.
Yes, it’s the same company that makes them, using the same concept for both. Just bought mine today and it comes with a finishing nail driver; they make you buy them as a pair $$
Good info. Thank you. I guess I should have looked through the comments before I asked my question.
Yeah! Forget breaking and entering -- I could use this hinge-popping tool regularly as a building manager.
Turn the hammer head 90 degrees and hit the punch with the broad side of the hammer head. I do that for all bottom hinges.
It was satisfying to see the hinge pin shoot up and out of the hinge with that tool.
Fake/set up hinge is what you just witnessed.
proofs?
@@HOTA_CHATON it's not a fake hinge, it's just a pin that gets removed a lot due to having these sorts of demonstrations.
doors pins will tighten up over time, but that just means it'll come out slowly or requires a couple hits as opposed to jumping out. The technique still works no problem.
I've been using a spring punch to knock out hinge pins for years. I normally have a be careful with the top hinge so is not to damage the ceiling.
@@Daddypants11 lol 🐱
"This is the LockPicking Lawyer, and today we are outside my Ex-Wife's house..."
ADEBISI ADEBISI a lot of anger from you over there because of a joke. Chill the fuck out
Always Bolt the Bird sounds like he’s the ones with a problem lmao
Looks like Adebisi is the LockPicking Lawyer's ex-wife.
If he as good in lawyering as in lockpicking his Es-wife would probably live in cardboard box.
I laughed WAYYY too hard at that comment.
This would be real handy if I had ever seen a door with hinges on the outside. :D
Some doors are zero entry or exit without security clearance. It's locked both ways.
Some doors open outwards to meet fire exit code.
@@kjamison5951 But the hinges doesnt have to go outside like that. All my doors that leads to the outside have hinges that cant be seen from the outside
The Skripals ( the two ALLEGED novychoc victims ) had a front door with mega external hinges.
@@Peekeey Hidden hinges from both sides then? Otherwise, how does it swing out?
LPL: "This is the LockPickingLawter"
Me: OMG THERE HE IS! Wait why isn't his mouth moving?....
i thought that too
Nope that’s DeviantOllam, whose videos about bypassing locks and doors (often using standard unrestricted keys…) are well worth watching too.
@@Hemigoblin The joke went kilometers above your head, huh?
@@reinhardreynecke300 I liked the joke! I should have read the video title before replying though.
My mental elevator was stuck in the basement. The answer was just one floor up and I still didn’t reach it. That feels worse…
@@Hemigoblin happens to the best of us lol, we're human after all
These videos have been entertaining. I’m sorry to see them come to an end, but I appreciate all the information you guys have shared with us. Thank you to both of you
If you give Deviant Ollam a search here on RUclips he's got his own channel and he's also done many talks at security conventions. Some good content out there.
@@scribblargh Thanks for that info. Not that I need the break-in tips... but I do like to hear about the counter measures!
Scribbler Ok awesome. Thank you! I didn’t know that. I appreciate you passing the information along!
LPL's not done making videos right? He's just done making videos with this group, right?
@@blakeplusplus correct!
This week in defense against the dark arts...
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"So how does someone harden their door at home from something like this?" - most home don't have hinges outside.
No, but the crowd that watches Deviant/LPL contains a lot of people probably with good stakes or high positions in places that could be vulnerable to this due to fire safety codes.
@@Volvary that is true. but his question was about their door "AT HOME".
@@dodgeplow Many doors on single family houses, at least in sweden, have doors opening outwards.
Probably due to weather, you do not want snow following the door in when opened.
But I also know that there are hinges with built in protection like those screws, right in the hinge plates.
Most don’t, and as Deviant Ollam says in his security talks that is obviously the safest option. However, if you do have a door like this, a jam pin is much cheaper than rehanging the door with the hinge on the inside.
Fixed pin hinges also a good option
When I was in construction and demolition I used these little spring hammers to remove dozens of doors, but let me tell you the pins usually don’t come out that easily lol.
yeah especially if the door was installed bent. The pressure on the pin is pretty high.
“We have done that in the field” Why is there a door in a field??? smh
200iq
I laughed more than I should ty
Funnier than it oughta be. Well played.
My guess is, there's this huge testing facility hidden underneath the field...
They found SCP2317 in an open field and wanted to see what happened if they removed the door from its hinge.
Tech note: After removing all the hinge pins, discover that the door was unlocked anyway.
It happens lol
Too funny
I would make a terrible locksmith, showing up with my 12 gauge breaching rounds 😂. Good times.
@@robertkywildcats9266 what would constitute breaching rounds as apposed to just 12g buckshot.
Like a slug?
@@TheDevilockedzombie You use breaching rounds so that, you don't kill someone on the other side of the door. It will also prevent ricochet and spalling. That's why you don't use buckshot or slugs.
i have only seen hinge pins come out that easily with a brand new hinge, coated in teflon, greased with silicone, on leap year, during the winter solstice, with all the planets and the sun aligned, during a solar flare, and with a full lunar eclipse.
I mean, yes.
Kinetic energy matters my dude. You could easily scale this tool up to a point where any hinge that isnt rusted shut, and even some that are, pop free quicker than an Abra uses Teleport.
A lunar eclipse during the winter solstice. Neat!
Also, anyone who does not have the sort of pins in the door which stick to the door post (dont't know the english term) on outward opening doors, just wants to be burglard...
Seriously. I hat to take some hinge pins out on my 30+ year old doors. Took a solid half hour of hammer and oil. That spring thing would not have moved them at all, much less make them fly off.
Lol when LPL is narrating and Deviant Ollam is just standing there smiling I feel so awkward
i feel like being hit on in a bear bar
He spent a full 20 seconds from 1:53 wondering when the video would end.
Hahaha this series of videos was my introduction to Deviant Ollam quite a while back. I've since fallen down a rabbit hole of his content here on RUclips, Twitter, etc. and it's funny coming back and seeing these with their awkward vibe when I know now he's such an engaging and not at all awkward dude.
@@bowlsallbroken hah, so glad to know that i've got you fooled about being engaging and such =)
@@herrtulpeskanal1980 why hello there :-D
I've hung a lot of doors over the years, not every hinge pin will be that loose.
It won't be that loose but it will come out anyway.
spray a bit of lithium lube
The first pin might come out super easy... Let's just say theres a reason he didn't show off with the other 2 pins. Last pin is always the hardest.
I've removed a lot of doors over the years (mostly to get the extra inch or two for moving a large object in or out of a house) and not one single hinge pin has EVER been that loose.
@@mungox1 I spray Franks Hot Sauce on the pins
this proves my reason to keep my hinges on the inside.
Most doors open inwards, so this tool is only really useful if you've happened to of locked yourself indoors pmsl
@@tictoc3148 Always fascinates me the differances between countries, i live in sweden and i have yet to see a single door that opens inwards!
Commercial back doors usually swing outward. In case there is a fire it's easier and quicker to get out. These doors are equipped with non-removable pins
@@jb3536 Fair, In Sweden fire safety rules dictate that our doors need to open outwards to ensure free passage during an emergency, if a fire starts, you should be able to rush and open the door without having to stop to swing it backwards, especially helpful if people are panicked and crowding near the door. I'm glad commercial doors open outwards in the US!
And whats the deal with doorknobs!? Ive never seen one in my entire life, but they seem like such a slippery hassle and probably even worse for bacteria seeing as its harder to use the shirt to hold the "knob"
@@chromatic91 In most of Europe doors that lead outside have to open outwards for securtiy reasons. In case of an emergency you can get out faster that way. Also in public buildings the doors have to be openable from the inside at all times for the same reason.
The funniest thing is that none of the methods shown in this series would work on my bathroom door. If I replaced the warded lock with something more sophisticated, I'd have a bathroom more impervious than whatever's behind this door.
yeah this methods seems to work because of how weird this door is.
@@Lrripper
_Door for demonstration purposes, only..._
@@Lrripper It's actually not very weird, at least not for America. For legal reasons, they can't use a doorknob, they have to use a door handle for disability access. Simple rubber weatherstripping won't stop any of these attacks, so 99% of business/commercial/public doors are vulnerable to the over-door and under-door attacks (most likely, dunno the actual statistics). Improper fitment of the strike plate causing the dead latch to not engage is even more common - I don't think I've ever seen a properly-fitted door. That means that the latch-slipping attack is possible on most doors. Finally, the hinge side requires that security hinges not be in use - surprisingly frequently, they are not. It also requires that you be on the right side of the door, but there's roughly 50% odds of that.
I have seen many office and house doors here in south Europe and pretty much none of these methods would work. I love LPL but this mini series was rather subpar. None of these methods were anything special and more importantly they d never work on like 9/10 doors I have seen...My cheap ass house doors are well enough fitted and with their frames prevent 4/4 of these attacks.
@@Terjesel Ah, yeah, that makes sense. I wasn't even aware of the fire codes, I was just going off of "well there's two sides they could be on, and they're only gonna be on one of those."
Incredible!!! I carried that particular tool in one of my small plastic tool boxes for close to 40 years and never knew what it was for - it's never been used... until today! Thank you for that! :)
i have seen these also used to create a dent in metal for a starter for to hold drill bit in place when starting to drill a hole through the metal.
In the Netherlands, something called Dievenklauw "Thieve's claw" has been standard on houses for decades.
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dievenklauw
They are a standard part of hinge, window or door designs, and have been for decades, including national building codes.
That's exactly what the prevention they are talking about does, yes.
Yh we have those in a lot of businesses in America as well. few actually go for the open pin hinge.
Comment on the side: gotta love the Dutch language.
let me guess, germans?
I've seen a shit ton of then in doors in the US. However not every door has them but most do.
I’ve been doing a really low cost modification to all my doors for years. I just drill a few holes on the edge of the door near each of the hinges. I then install an Allen Head Cap Screw into each hole. It really doesn’t matter if you use a wood or machine thread since there will be no load on the screws. Then I close the door enough for the screw heads to make impressions in the jam and finish by drilling corresponding holes in the jam for the screw heads. Cost is about $2 for the screws and it takes less than 15 minutes. No need to buy expensive specialty screws or to remove screws from the hinge that the manufacturer obviously thought needed to be there.
They already have a door tool, it's called a shape charge.
Robert Waterman "covert entry methods" yes a shape charge is covert
Robert Waterman it’s called a boot for inward, and a saw for out.
@@f1rebreather123 Its very possible to kick an outward opening door in it just takes alot more effort, i can do it with only medium amounts of effort but im also a 6'7 350lb dude that worked on a farm most my life
@@BIGxPAPAxRYAN certainly doesn't hurt when your muscles are larger simply because your frame is larger.
Strongest 4' man and an average build 7' man... My bets on the tall guy.
I've noodle arms and I can lift 30kg up to my chest. Probably doesn't hurt that I'm ~6'1 give or take an inch. You feel?
@@Dylan-xc8yz Yha thats kinda what i was hittin at, im a big dude so i just naturally have more power behind my movements.
Love Dean's Cascadia hat! And this aired on my 60 birthday...lol
Commercial doors that swing outward from a building usually have NRP (non removable pin) hinges that have an Allen screw that secured the pin that can only be accessed when the door is opened.
Not just commercial. In my house most hinges are 2-part, no separate pin, just the bottom part of the hinge milled so that the pin is an integral part of it. To remove the door you must open it wide and lift off the pins. Or alternatively the pin doesn't go all the way through but is completely enclosed within the two sides of the hinge, no openings on the ends.
Yeah this was what I want to know as someone in the door, frame & hardware industry: would this work on an NRP hinge? My gut says no but that depends on how much force that little tool generates.
@@sharpfang Did you build those doors yourself? if you (or the person that build your house) has bought the doors from somewhere, those are commercial doors. Commercial doors doesn't mean doors to commercial buildings, but commercially made and sold doors.
jort93z idiot go find what NRP means
@@RoninXDarknight nice thing about springs is you can always get a stronger one, hell you could put a 30lb spring on that thing and just punch out the lock.
The last thing you want to hear outside your front door:
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and what I have for you today...."
EDIT: Wai... what? 2K likes?
EDIT2: This is still going? 3K likes now? O_O
*Cleveland Intensifies*
"No, No, No, NOOOOOO!"
Based on your username, I'm guessing you'll be more likely to hear "This is the police, you are required to open your door for a 'health check'."
@@deusexaethera Still waiting for that.
OMG frightening thing to hear outside your door....
Randomly walks round apartment doors, and shouts, this is the Lockpicking Lawyer and I'm going to show you how to open any door in any building. Ha.
Hi! I help make these tools. We are a company of about a dozen people in the inland NW called Spring Tools. That tool is called a CARP. We sell hundreds of thousands of them to sherwin williams because they are popular with painters. We also make nail setters/finishers, steel center punches, wood chisels, stamping sets and more.
Do you get commission from this? If not, you should get a link that gets you credit lol
I have several Springtool punches and nailsets in my bags at all times. Rad products.
I've been a tile installer for over 30 years and never seen this. Crying out loud the PUNISHMENT I'VE ENDURED! D:
Good that you do... If you really care you'd advise people rather than take advantage of them. It's a legit tool on the backside, but the hinge BS is just that. Hinges go on the INSIDE.
Right because I've never seen a door where the hinges are outside. Makes sense for painters.
The fact that Deviant blinks so infrequently is...unsettling
I think too much and too little blinking are both signs of nerves
Most doors that swing "out", like that one, have security hinges were you can't pop the hinge pin.
You are assuming the door is built correctly.
Cheap contractors like to not do that.
Called a NRP hinge.
Go around and count how many doors on your house swing out. If you came up with any answer but zero than it means a moron worked on your house.
@Stimpy&Ren In the US all dwellings have doors that swing in. As a carpenter I know of many simple ways to make your doors kick proof as all my doors are. It would take a lot more than a police battering ram to knock in one of my doors.
@Stimpy&Ren Also just so you know with the way you describe its not the whole frame keeping the door closed just a 1 and a half inch strip usually attached with some brad nails. A door that opens in is actually much easier to beef up for someone that knows what they are doing.
I need a percentage on how many subscribers are actually thieves 😂
I'd guess an even split of theives, home defense enthusiasts, picking hobbyists, and people who enjoy listening to this man ruin a company's reputation in the calmest voice ever.
PnP Tea excellent response 😂
Send me the address, I'll leave the answer on your kitchen table while you're at work...
(joking, obviously 😂)
5%?
PnP Tea honestly it just popped into my feed one day and I started watching. So there’s the “youtube suggested this and now I’m just hooked” group, too
When you remove the hinge pins from an out-swinging doors, the hinge knuckles mounted to the frame is still blocking the door from being easily pulled open. It can be done in a situation where one doesn't care about marring the door (ex. thief) , but this technique is not as easy or damage free as indicated.
@Toxic Delirium I've had to pop the hinges on a door and open it for emergency response, and I've never had it done easily. My standard rule of thumb (and one building owners covered by my fire department are aware of) is that if I have to open the door, they're going to need a new door.
Exterior swing doors have welded hinge pins..
or should have , a .22-250 round will penetrate cops vests like a hot knife through air
Not necessarily welded, but at the very least they should have "NRP" designation (non-removable pins) which adds a set screw to the pin, or another style of burglar-resistant hinge that has a metal tab on one leaf and a corresponding hole on the other leaf.
Definitely not always. … in fact, I’d never seen welded hinges and I replace commercial and military doors daily.
Or don't have the hinge showing on the outside? Seems like a big security risk.
umm Thats not an outside door its an inside door, dev is a pen tester he will get into your building.. and then lets say your server room is locked.. and it has the hinges on the exterior.. Boom now hes in your server room. This is 1 technique.. he has 100 others if your hinges ARNT on his side.. lol.
Also I believe if 50+ people can get into a room the door is required to swing outward as to not hurt anyone in the “meeting point”
@@N0body247 I meant the outside of a room, not the entire building. I didn't think of the scenario of a server room though.
@@germaikan3610 Must be an American law, I see local building doors in the UK open inwards.
@@germaikan3610 Those Codes though
"how do you defend against someone taking out the pins on the hinge when they're on the outside?"
Put the hinge on the inside if it's that important.
All doors are mounted with the pins on the inside of the doors. These guys obviously don't know this. What a useless video.
@@user-ge2qn6gp4o so how about storm doors that open outside? they surely can't be all doors
@@dooki3face You're typically not worried about security with storm doors so they don't really apply.
@@user-ge2qn6gp4o storm doors are your first line of security given you have the steel storm doors. You can call them security steel doors
This can sometimes be against building code. Having a door open outwards is safer in the event of a fire.
I used to work for a window and door manufacturer, with every outswing door we used NRP (non-removable pin) hinges. Does anyone actually use regular hinges on outswing doors? I like your videos but I wonder about this one.
Yeah everyone should be for out-swing doors. If they’re not, someone screwed up.
Probably only in hotels and rental apartments in a building with a lot of units where property owners can have an easy access to tenants that vandalize and or refuse to pay or leave eviction purposes.
Sadly.... Some places don't fully attempt to foil these things and have other reasons not to... 3 door to the back room of our store, one a single door, the other 2 are butterfly double doors. One of the butterfly receiving doors has hinges on the outside... "Incase the fire department needs to get in". I guess windows are hard to break and\or the jaws of life don't work lmao.
Yes, and if I'm doing something to wear my door being breached is a concern, I would tack weld the pins in place
In Finland the most common type of outdoor hinge already has the functionality of those "jam pin screws" on top of having unremovable pins.
how are the pins made unremovable?
@@manp1039 I'm not sure how they're manufactured, but it's a solid pin instead of having a screw on one side.
Am I the only one who hears “Olaf” when I introduces him?
yes. because that's how my names is pronounced
@@DeviantOllam I too have been very confused by this! Great to see some confirmation!
@@DeviantOllam Source? Seems suspect.
I see an 'M' but no 'F'. What am I missing?
@@Cugelclever further down is a video on deviant's channel explaining it. Old Celtic name
Thank you for this tutorial. I need to remove hinge pins on one of my doors- not to break into my own house, but to remove the door to work on it. I already have a spring-loaded center punch (for woodworking), so I’m ready to go.
Holy crap that looks useful af for moving and delivering appliances
I was looking for just this comment. I concur.
And opening car windows very quickly...
This spring tool company actually makes like a dozen different ones, I have the awl, nail setter, cold chisel, 3/16 nail set, 5/16 nail set, and a flat spring hammer. My next buy is probably going to be the spring letter stamping set, but that thing runs about $65 on Amazon
Old saying - Locks only keep out honest people.
I personally like C4 is the master key to all doors.
Locks only keep out stupid people. It seems that people who choose a life of crime are usually pretty stupid to begin with. The smart people who could break in are smart enough not to live a life of crime...
In Australia, "Locks stop the curious."
And guns make sure they stay honest.
@@josiahhockenberry9846 IF you hit 'em.
The sound of a pump shotgun slide usually makes 'em think.
As a wise man once said, "If you can't pick the lock, pick the door"
Just that noone else think he was so wise.
When I was on the fire department years ago we all had one of these in our coats for car accidents. If a person was trapped inside we could put it at the lower corner of the side door window and pull, it would shatter the glass and the glass would fall straight down instead of hitting it with a hammer that would send the glass all over the place
Many years ago I accidentally locked myself out, the fire brigade who were in attendance at the time offered to let me back in with a Halligan. I said no thank you and demonstrated how to gain entry with a leatherman tool.
@@inregionecaecorum so you locked yourself out waited for the firemen to ask if you needed any help so you could decline and open it yourself?
Sounds believable.
@@Flaggyt Actually I locked myself out because the fire brigade had evacuated the building and I left rather quickly without my keys, that is why they were still there when they gave the all clear to go back in.
@@inregionecaecorum so the fire brigade locked you out? I would seriously doubt professional firefighters would lock people out of a building after a fire call-out. Obviously you didn't lock yourself out, because you would not have been the last person inside. And if you *were* the last person inside, the fire brigade could not have entered to "all clear" the building if the door were locked.
Again, sounds believable.
@@CadillacDriver No I left my flat without my keys and the door locked itself, my flat is in the building, the Fire brigade were in the building, not in my flat, they called us all to evacuate because there was a fire in the block in another flat and after they had extinguished the fire, they invited us back in the building that is to say the communal entrance, you don't understand apartment blocks do you?
I use this tool a lot. Quite often I find that I need to adjust the hinges on doors to readjust the door correctly in the door frame. To adjust the hinges, I first need to pop the pin out, and this tool is the best way that I've found to do that. Even tough pins eventually give in to this tool.
I watched this as it released. Little did I know it was the same guy who's entry method presentation I'd watched many years ago. I'm so glad to see LPL found him as enlightening as I did.
When you have a swat team waiting outside but youre not worried because you have a metal triple locking prison front door but then you hear the swat guys say "get the lockpicking lawyer"
Its actually not that funny.
dude the guy the teaching us how knock the pins out even looked surprised at how easy it was
So professional door and door hardware installer here.. So I won't deny that jam pin screws, or just buying hinges with the same concept built in, are effect but one important thing to note. Any time you have a reverse swing door (butt of hinge on outside) the hinges are almost always NRP (Non Removable Pin). Basically it's just a small set screw that keeps the pin from being easily removed. While the pin can still be removed it takes an exceptional amount of force and time to destroy that set screw and force the pin out. Not feasible with the hinge pin removal tool showed in this video. I have a couple and they are more ment for commercial use during hardware installation or easy removal of interior doors. The only time a secure door, swinging out, will not have NRP hinges is if it's really really old or if someone hired amateurs to install the hardware and either didn't care or didn't know what they were doing.
The perfect tool for when I lock myself inside 😍
NRP hinges have been in use for hundreds of years. ( non removable pins) No spring tool could ever pop one of those.
(unscrews hinge plates)
@@SeanSkyhawk Sure , no problem.....if the door is open.
@@michaelmacdonald7886 you never said the hinges were inside
@@SeanSkyhawk The hinge barrels are on the outside ( where the pins are) the hinge plates and screws are on the inside. Regardless, there is no locked door that can't be breached, especially if two of us together want to get in.
Thank you, as I age I could forget how to unlock my door, causing me to be stuck inside my home. With that handy tool, I would have a chance at survival, especially if I also forget how to do it with a screw-driver.
I've used these before to replace door, they are wonderful and work exactly as shown.
in sweden we have door hinges that have their own jamnut(like a metal tab going into the door)
this hinge design is still beyond me. You will NEVER ever find a hinge like this in france, probably not even in Europe.
it doesn't matter, this was one of many methods to get a door off the hinges, ask Ukraine if it matters when a 12 gauge is blasting your lock and hinges off. guns are illegal for you, criminals dont care about law. the doors is going to open. by tool or firearm. your little french fancy door isnt shit but wood and and glass with a little iron or steel and brass
@@hunterrobinson4005 ok? This post is just about the bad design of these doors, no one is contesting your point mate.
@@Steelface97 well obviously, I just made the point, "mate". how could it be contested before being made to begin with? lol. No ones contesting your point either. what about it?
Even in Russia it's rare, and noone use it as a main door.
I mean that's cool, but this type of design is extremely common on interior doors, especially in office buildings.
I like how Deviant is kinda doing an interpretive dance at the beginning XD
Spring Tools! They are amazing. I got a 3-tool set at a garage sale for a dollar. I use them all the time. Found out later that set retails for $50, and worth every penny!
I'm glad you made another video with this guy but again I wish you were able to spend more time showing the defence in action.
The thumbnail says 'Every entry team needs this tool!' but when have you ever seen an entry door with hinges on the outside? And any blunt tip center punch can do the same thing, 1-handed.
Most hinges pis in uk are ‘riveted over’ at ends to prevent pins being easily removed
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Not just UK. Czechia too.
For “pis”read pins
A good chunk of the US too, its just one example, and mostly used on low-security businesses like schools and restaurants.
Exactly
To be fair mine in the UK are all internal too
The second I saw that it was made from a spring I already knew how it was going to work, awesome tool.
the thing about why you probably can't use those tricks on doors here in germany is because nobody would build in such a flawed door. i've never seen a door here that even has all those flaws, maybe only unsafe hinges
The same applies to doors in the UK
Same. Houses here may have a screen door that opens outwards, but the main door itself always opens inwards, and the hinge pin is on the inside.
Look more carefully. Office buildings, public spaces etc will generally have lots of doors with one or more of these features.
I live in Hungary and my bathroom door's secure against all of these tricks. And not because I installed a special secure door into my bathroom
It depends on which way the door opens. It's one reason for having doors that open towards the house or apartment although it normally would make more sense to open them outwards as there's more space
You always want to have the hinges on the inside. The under the door attack on the other hand works in a lot of commercial buildings, like hotels. If a door is a way out in case of emergency, like a fire, they're not allowed to have deadbolts and are required to unlock when using the handle.
1:03 - _"So, how does someone harden their door at home against this kind of attack?"_ Well, for starters, you don't buy a door with hinges on the security side.
@@AggressiveAegyo instead of loosing to a simple hinge removal, that can be done by anyone with a screwdriver ....
I love Deviant Ollam's half-smug, half-stoned look at the beginning
I think that's his standard look. He knows.
I bought this tool and used it exactly as demonstrated on my apartment door. After 3 big whacks the pin had only moved 1mm.
means either you messed up or your door was set up well.
Door hinges are usually located on the inside, not the outside as shown in this video. This is a commercial.
Here in the Netherlands the front door opens inwards and the backdoor opens outwards... So the front door has no hinge visible on the outside, but the backdoor does.
@@R2_D3 That is not wrong, but it’s not right either.
@@DrDisasta That's just the way it is here in the Netherlands. But the door in the video isn't a door to a house I would think, but a storage-space or something like that...
Still a bad video tho! ;)
oh the firemen are here, dont worry sir we can knock your hinge pins out
owner:.... oh god dammit... the hinge bolts
"...even if I've knocked the hinge pins out from this side where I am here"
"out standing."
LPL finished his sentence.
those are used for pin nails to sink the pn nail into trim so their isnt a nailhead sticking out when you dont have the right pressure to sink the nail
For those wanting to become B&E experts, this channel is gold.
No, for that go to Diviant's channel. I recommend "This is your key" as a good starting point for feeling like locks are decorations.
LPL: “Okay, this is an Abus high security lock so I’m going to start with a medium torsion wrench and a short hook tool in the 25 thousandths. Nothing on one…”
Deviant: “Hinge pins are out… and we’re in.”
Yeah, he has even said on multiple occasions he can pick locks, but it is almost never the best or easiest way to break in.
@Biggus Dickus They aren't always.
@Biggus Dickus If you have jam pins installed like he suggests or security hinges it literally doesn't matter what side of the door the hinges are on. You are not getting through the door that way non destructively.
In many applications you need access control in both directions. In other applications architecture constraints mandate that door opens in a direction incompatible with the desired access controls. Or the space you rented already has doors installed that are incompatible with the desired access controls. Then you can't decide to put the hinges on the "inside".
So what are you supposed to do? Throw your hands up and go home defeated? No you do your damn job and make it secure anyway, which is my point.
He's actually Wilson from Home Improvement. He realized that he wanted a little more privacy.
my method of defeating this tool was discovered in my college apartment. 75 years of paint layered on the hinges from bad repainting makes the hinges a solid component.
Are separate hinge pins a USA thing? I dont think I've ever seen them in a buildings door. Only seen integrated pins so you need to fully open the door and lift it up to remove.
We have several types of hinges. For security these are the worst and hinges are generally to the inside.
I thought he was just casually doing a face reveal
Same
Open your door, and drill a 3/32" hole 2/3 of the way thru each hinge/ pin. Then tap in steel roll pins, and you're set.
@David Watson, fire code requires doors swing outward on commercial structures.
@David Watson No
That doors got to be newly installed. Or, at least as recent as a few years. Not that I'm doubting the effectiveness of that tool but the velocity in which that pin came flying out of there.
Nice hat too! Cascadia!
"Outstanding, Dave. And how does one remove a jam pin screw?"
"Well, we have this little doodad here called a Jam Pin Eliminator. It'll take out a door even if it has a jam pin to stop the original device we showed you."
"What an amazing device! And how would someone stop you if you did use a jam pin eliminator?"
"Well, you have this thing called a hinge lock accelerator 300X stronger. You need a hinge lock accelerator remover for that to come off! Just make sure they don't have jam pin screws underneath them."
"Thaaat was gonna be my next question - right on...!"
don't forget to check for jam pin screw jam pins, and hingbolt jam screw pin jam bolts.
I know how to remove it, you don't. When the local FD had to get through a door someone did this stupidity on they just literally ripped the door out anyhow because well.. either they break or the hinge rips out, its' not fucking rocket science.
@@Folsomdsf2 You better be joking! :D
@@bentonrp Nope, a local dude put 'security screws' in his door and they popped the hinges cause it was a metal door. A lot of people have been carrying tools like this for decades, though they are nicer now. You know that spring loaded punch they use to break car windows? That's the next iteration of this device. It's just a spring center punch.
All metal door, they popped hinges, put in a crowbar, ripped it right out anyhow.
@@Folsomdsf2 lol!
Where I live, these hinge pins are at the inside of the door.
My hinges are on the inside.....seems like the smart way to do things
Thanks for the instructions on drilling the 70MM Brinks lock as I had one on a storage unit that I had lost the keys for. I was going to grind it off with a griner but you can never find power at warehouse and all I could use was battery operated. I took 3 drill bits and an impact drill finally got it. There seem to be a hardened plate at the rear that I couldn't make a scratch in. I broke the first bit because i have Harbor Freight stuff the second wasn't doing anything to that hardened plate but a titanium bit in my rough and vibratinbg impact drill popped it right open.
I've been using a spring punch to knock out hinge pins for years!
This is so weird to watch with headphones. I was so surprised to hear LPL voice from BEHIND me
Most doors have the hinge inside for that exact reason, plus these are Brand new hinges
Most personal spaces will have them inside yes. But in most commercial buildings, you will get burned by code as doors need to swing outward in case of fire to be compliant with safety regulations.
@@Volvary Yup, it is the opposite on your house for code reasons. On commercial buildings there are many ways to fix it so people can't do this such as captured pins etc.
@@Volvary maybe in shoddy built america but in freedom europe doors open inwards
@@Volvary Depends on country. Exact opposite where I live. Fire code says they have to go invard so they are easier to bust open by firefighters.
@@ZulousOG Literally one comment above you is a Swede claiming exactly the opposite.
Genius, will also come in super handy for work. Keep up the great work chief. Appreciate the entertainment value too!!
I've never seen a hinge that this would work on in my life.
Then you've never stepped outside.
I think it's because I live in Europe.
@@nine1690 And you've never had to take an old door off it's hinges...
Grinders and Gears that aut guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about
@@marekgdpr680 no, there are doors in europe too - mostly the ones they close on drowning refugees, but also ones with hinges
This could have come in handy when I had to remove the interior doors for renovations
As a commercial door installer, that hinge pin DID come out too easily!
I don't think there were set screws in those pins if there were not that easy he would pop them.
As a dangling participle, ...
So... Interior commercial hinges. Exteriors usually have set screws locking the pins in place. Even cheap entry from a big box store will have "security" style hinges with a bent pin on one leaf that fits in a recces on the other leaf. If it is an interior door I wouldn't bother with any of the methods shown. The thing you learn installing doors is if you want in go for the weakest link.......Which usually isn't the door with security hardware.... It's the wall next to the door. Cordless drill with 4 inch hole saw. Drill thru drywall, reach in and open door from other side... This also will work for most exterior doors on homes. Drill thru siding, sheathing, insulation and drywall. Open door...
I wonder, could you use one of the spring loaded centre punches for this purpose? The kind you push down on to compress the spring and at a certain point it releases and a striker used that spring to fly forward hitting the actual punch bit on the front, similar I'd imagine to this tool in effect\force
That's LITERALLY what this is. Yours is just with a lever/trigger, this is what they looked like before they made hte modern variant :P
Deviant starts this video looking like he's doing a catalog shoot.
Not gonna find too many out swing entrydoors with that hinge, and the ones that are the hinge pins are weathered tight to the hinge from corrosion, oxidation, etc. The nail set being used doesn’t have the strength most times to pop pins in an older exterior door.
This isn't for an exterior door, this is for locked doors inside commercial buildings, i.e; server/coms room.
That would make sense, appreciate the clarification
I'm loving those jam pin screws. So simple but so valuable!
I feel like if the person is willing to take off your hinges/door, they're probably willing to break a window.
If you're going non destructive entry, hinge pin removal is a valid option.
Not necessarily- they can replace the door and hinge pins and you'll never know they were there at all, whereas if they break a window, you're probably gonna notice it.
Who hangs doors with hinges on the outside lol.
its actually code in florida. . . it hurricane proofs it as the hole door is resting against the frame as opposed to the whole door resting on the lock
@@mikeriverajr4447 no shit. Are you for real? Weird but very interesting.
Yeah, as Mike said, it is code for many doors- especially emergency exits, even in high security settings. I’ve been using these jam pin screw from Germany for years. You should really look into them. I’m constantly giving them to friends who are “hardening” interior closet doors for guns and other valuables.
Also many indoor safety doors. Like first thing that comes to mind is a server room door. Often wouldn't have to space to open inwards anyway and it's real expensive stuff in there you wanna keep safe.
Fred that's who
I just hit the door enough that the frame breaks , sledgehammer. I have zero finesse I can break a anvil. It’s a special skill set organized chaos with a pinch of berserker
My Fav way also if I'm out of C4 lol
Those spring punches will shatter most tempered and automotive glass
They should be built in to the asp police carry. I still see LEO's having trouble breaking car windows.