Night Vision Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2019
- A comparison of the PVS14, PVS15, PVS31, DTNVG, RNVG, MOD3, and ANVIS10 housings for night vision devices.
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Lol the pvs 14 spinning suspended by 550 chord was unexpected but golden.
Classic
Nice collection there
Great video. Within a few months of getting my 14s I started saving for a TNV/DTNVS set...Im still saving but getting close.
Where would you buy the dtnvs?
Great video man thanks. There is a lot of good information in this video.
Awesome intro video. I bought two 14s solely for night Airsofting with my kids. I’ve been using one of the 14s for stargazing, but now want to upgrade for running drills at night.
Awesome parent here. Buying your kids NVGs for their hobbies is sweet.
@@vitaminlead7534 haha, they are running a pair of Pulsars and I am running two MUM-14s (unflimed white 3G).
@@beck4218 Badass.
That’s fucking awesome, great dad!
Great video! Thanks!
Excellent information. Thanks
Everyone says that PSV 14s are for peasants. What they fail to realize is the PVS 7 is what is actually for peasants.
pvs 14-21 are still being use by our military lower tier soccom and driving aplication only pilots and tier one spec ops get anvis10/gpnvg-18 most of the grunts would be lucky to get pvs 14 the reserve and national guard still use pvs-7
PVS-5 dude lol
i'm sure we can all agree they're all fancier than regular glasses
Really appreciate your videos. I’m currently saving up for either DTNVS or PVS31s. I got out just before the USMC moved to dual tubes for CGF so my experience is lacking in the technology as i cut my teeth on PVS14’s.
DTNVS all the way.
Dtnvs
That quad lens is my wet dream dude
Heavy as shit. A lot of SOF guys don't like them. But I'd love to have that 90 degree FOV instead of 40.
I would really like to hear more about scope mounted night vision and especially clip-on manufacturers.
After months of research on the topic myself, I've concluded A) If you can find one, buy a PVS-27. If you have a PVS-27 with a really good tube, you have basically the best of the best. If not, buy a PVS-30 or a PVS-24LR.
Love my L3 RNVGs.
non articulation ever bothered you? thinking of l3 rnvgs for my first set.
Don't know if you read back on these older comments, but I'm curious about your thoughts on DTNVGs vs the new DTNVSs. Trying to decide if they're worth the wait.
I want to know too
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Nice video, how's the headache, when you bridge two pvs14 together?
Depends on you, the PVS14 specs similarity and brightness. I have a specific Pvs14 video.
i remember i went through half a work up and an entire workup with pvs14’s that did not turn on
I recently got a set of PVS 15's. Can you put them in an act in black DTNVG housing? Or is that housing specific to PVS 14 lenses?
You can't because the tube sizes are different and also like you said the lens assemblies aren't compatible
Have you ever tried any of the thermal "hybrid" type devices like the PSQ-36 or similar, if so do you have any thoughts? Great video as usual either way!
I haven't but I've heard good things.
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Jon would you recommend getting a PVS14 with a higher quality tube (L3 gen 3 white phos film less or a dual tube set up with lesser quality tubes (perhaps basic green phos). From what I’ve seen it seems that a top notch 14 can go for around 4500ish and a can prob find a lower end dual for the 6-6500 range. Would you recommend the quality over the one over the ability to have an extra tube if that extra price difference is manageable?
Personally I'd go with a set of decent duals or the awesome 14. Either way you'll have to make the choice. The good part about having the duals is you can upgrade tubes eventually. The good part of having the 14 is that it's easy to travel and pocket plus useful for filming and stuff.
Would love to get a high FOM set of PVS-31S (NOT Alphas) but the L3 green phos
Which would be your go to? I’m already set on 20UA WP, but still debating between rnvgs & dtnvgs. I like the ruggedness of the rnvgs but also like the articulation of the dtnvgs. I guess my main concern would be shtf. I’d love to have the pros of articulation but I’m worried about them breaking on me lol
I have a video on articulating vs bridged. I use articulating NVGs. "ruggedness" is marketing. Most units can take a spill depending on where and how. Everything but anvis is ground spec and will be fine man.
is that about $100,000 on the table?
half that value being the quads?
Not sure the exact count but I think that's too high.
gotta be close....Panos are $42k, decent 14s are $3ish, others are all in the $10k ballpark
The Pano’s are Anvis 10’s, right now worth right now about $14,000
Accurate AF
Kommandostore sells Panos for 12-14k (different Elbit tube specs w/g phos) and have easy access for civilian repair and parts (most companies are hostile to civvies in repair and warranty sector sadly)
Very informative video! Do you think you will ever invest in the TNVC COTI?
Maybe. Or I'll borrow one
That is dope
These are awesome. I still dont see why better digital night vision isnt a thing.
THERE IS better digital night vision, full color, and extremely clear, BUT its as big as a TV camera.
Portable night vision still isn't there, maybe soon once we can get our silicon smaller than it already is. Say, 4-5 years (rough estimate).
I’m on the fence between RNVG and DTNV act in blacks. Most uses will be woods and fields hunting, but the secondary use corresponds with a plate carrier for unlikely scenarios that still unfortunately do exist. I guess I’m a little nervous about polymer vs aluminum along with water issues. I see the wires and circuitry are protected in the RNVG and not sure about the DTNV. Any thoughts would be helpful, the budget is there for either. Also have a 14 on order from TNVC, just hate the wait. “I just want wizard eyes 😢”
Both are good choices. I use the dtnvgs/dtnvs because I find them to be the best choice. But it's just preference
Thinking about getting the Harris F5032. Have also considered the new ACT in Black DTNVS with L3 tubes. What do you recommend?
Dtnvs
PVS-7's get a lot of shit, but they're honestly solid for what they are. I don't disagree with most of the complaints about them, but there is one thing most people fail to consider, or simply don't realize. First, let me start with my logic of why they get trashed so hard:
Most of the folks who have used both PVS7’s and PVS14’s tend to be military folks who had the ‘luxury’ of using 7’s as their first/only NVG experience. Rarely did somebody get into the military, come up on ANVIS, then start rolling 7's - rarely enough, I'd bet it's literally never happened. Later in their military careers, 14’s found their way to the mainstream and the upgrade was clear and overwhelming to all - smaller, lighter, better situational awareness/peripheral vision, so on and so forth. Most of us never looked back.
Again, I agree with most of the points in favor of 14’s over 7’s. But again, most of us never looked back at “shitty 7’s.” If you took the time and pulled a set of 7’s out after years of running 14’s however, you were probably amazed at the image clarity the 7’s have, as compared to 14’s.
I’m no scientologist; just a dumb grunt, but my understanding is that the larger tube diameter crammed into 7’s that results in a VERY noticeably sharper image than 14’s.
Again, this comes at the cost of weight, size, bulk, etc. For movements, 7’s are excellent for anyone who gets to watch the poor bastard try to navigate in them, but pretty horrible for anyone unfortunate enough to be wearing them.
So, yeah…I agree that *in general* 7’s are to be avoided. But exactly as you said: "you can still see in the fucking dark." So while there are very clear advantages to other options, don’t make the mistake of thinking 7’s are useless. At worst, they rank right up there with fat chicks and mopeds. If somebody has no NODs and finds a deal - 100% buy those 7s and get into the game. Even if I owned something else, I'd jump on a good deal for 7's to have them in the stables. While I was deployed, I would still take 7’s out if I was setting up an observation post. My 14’s never left my kit, and saw many, many times more use. I was never fortunate enough to play with anything higher dollar to offer any comparison.
Any recommendations for zeroing a Holosun LS321G? I know there are various targets around for DBall and PEQ15’s. Not really sure how to develop one for the Holosun to conduct a parallel zero. I didn’t do so hot in math for Marines😢. I will be using it in conjunction with pvs 14s and pvs 15’s.
Go check out my video on parallel vs converging Zeros that can help.
@Les Fernandez Intel on what?
@@KineticConsulting you know, *intel*
I was blessed to have a friend find me a gently used blemless Elbit Gen 3 thin filmed green phos PVS-14 for $1950 shipped. Low Light Innovations makes a terrific "white" filter that essentially mimics white phos in appearance with limited light transmission loss for only $25. To save money on the mount, he suggested an "Evolution Gear L4G24 NVG Mount Perfect Replica" for only $85 shipped instead of the $465 for the real one, and the quality is phenomenal. I also picked up a used Wilcox AN/PVS-14 Arm for $150 shipped down from the original $229 price. Botach has a Longfri Level IIIA ballistic helmet for only $199 that is around 3 pounds, good quality for the price and there are lots of ballistic test videos on them. I also went with the FCS AMP Headset that is a fully functioning Replica of the Ops Core AMP for only $175 shipped down from $999 for the real one. I plan on running a Disco 32 PTT with them to get my Comms squared away. Although all of this stuff is still expensive, there are ways of making NVGs and Comms realistically affordable instead of an unobtainable pipe dream. I highly encourage yourself and others to do the same. I was able to have just as functional of a setup for a little more than $2,500 that would have been $7,500+ if I had gone "Gucci" on everything..........
I’m thinking about investing into night vision next year. Sounds like you did a good job of spending every dollar effectively, while keeping your setup at a decent quality level too. BTW, your Canton wouldn’t happen to be the town just south of me here in GA would it?
thanks
Awesome video. Were you in SOF? What did you do?
Yes. Check my website for my bio.
Thoughts on l3 Harris 1531s? Like the weight of the 31s but would like adjustable diopters…
I dig it.
Id be cool to see a auto gain with a manual override
Never thought I’d be a peasant with M914a L3’s😐 probably cause I bridged them and I now have 6 pack ab’s or hot dog neck deal going on. Poor’s have mullet’s so that’ll cover it 🤙🏻
I have pvs7s if you want to borrow a set
You shoulda added the 7 bravo if you could
New to night vision would the dtnvg be good enough or would you save up for a pvs31? Is the clarity and quality on the dtnvg very good?
You're just talking about housings. The specs are the most important thing. Go see my video on how to buy night vision
Do any have attactments, and are light enough for baseball caps instead of helmets? I go wildlife watching and night vision is on my wish list.
Attachments in what way and yes but not a baseball cap. Go see my helmet video and it talks about some alternatives that may work for you. You may want to look into a Pvs14 and I have a couple videos on those.
@@KineticConsulting I've been looking at the Pvs14. Nice little size but want to get my hands on one to try before I buy. The way I normally wildlife watch isin a way i expect hunters or snipers work. Sat perfectly still, in cover, downwind ect. Something to clip it to the front of a cap would really help.
@@DreamsCatcher101 your hat won't be able to hold the PVS14
@@DreamsCatcher101 You'd be looking at a skull crusher like the one which comes with a PVS 14 or the Crye/ Wilcox/ FirstSpear versions eg - www.first-spear.com/vas-vision-augmentation-system-soft-harness. Skull crushers with a mounted PVS14 are uncomfortable as you get a pressure spot.
Thought a Katana bino's would be there. Seems there is a large amount out there.
This is an older video. They weren't around at the time
Thoughts on BNVD-UL? Ty for this, very good video.
Don't have any and probably won't buy any.
@@KineticConsulting any reason for that? I'm in the market for my first pair and am considering them but dont want to make a mistake
@@ikemouser2580 due to me being very happy with my dtnvgs
@@KineticConsulting just bought l3 WP bnvd-ul's. Hope I like them lol
Do your dtnvgs have a lemo spot?
I'm probably going to be getting a PVS14 to start and when I'm done with flight school I'll go for most likely a DTNVG.
Quad nods or bust
@@pataguccioper8or251 Govement says we can't own them
@@jamesmerone you can own anvis 10s, the first gen quad nods. They cost like 18k lol
Ive only ever seen 31's being sold to LEO and GOVT so.. where would i look to get them if im just a civillian?
Second hand. I don't recommend it
@@KineticConsulting So id be better off goin for some of the other ones then, because id assume parts would be alot harder to find that way too if somthing gets broken.
@@BIackoutPhantom exactly
Dang....you got good friends.😂
Why do people say the pvs-7 suck? If they are the same as a pvs-14 but with binocular vision, it seems like that’s better. Could someone please explain what sucks about them?
So they do not have binocular vision. It's a mirror image on both eyes. If you look at how our eyes is human beings work we're not seeing a mirror image we are seeing two separate images that correspond to one location as to where we're looking. The 7 is creating a mirror image to both which doesn't correspond with our eyes or our brain. Making it horrible night vision
@@KineticConsulting much appreciated.
*Very good at least I like it*
I have saved up $130. How close am I to getting a mid range pair?
Look up on tnvc and see the priceling to help you
You didnt show the most important thing, how we can see trough them
jeez theres soo many different nods to choose from. where is a good starting place to research?
Depends on your needs
Go to the ar15.com night vision section.
There is a mount for the PVS-14[s] do you think they are good instead of having a PVS-15 or something more expensive.
Some are better than others. They are usually heavier than duals
I meant rifle mounted night vision.
You were a JSOC operator?
Please see my bio on my website.
I’m looking into getting night vision goggles for the up coming war I do not have a lot of money because of the inflation. I was hoping you could help me. Thank you.
I don't sell night vision.
20:38 to skip to panoramic nvg
If PVS7 are just a PVS14, with dual lenses, why the hate?
It's only one objective lens, but two ocular lenses. So you still only have 1 tube amplifying the light, but its covering both eyes. The advantage of a dual tube system is that because there are 2 amplifying sources you are able to have depth perception as with regular daytime vision. The advantage with a monocular system is that the uncovered eye is still able to see the environment to a degree and also aid with navigation and non night vision tasks. PVS7's are basically the worst of both systems; both eyes are covered, yet you still have no depth perception. I have personally used both, and PVS7's suck.
@@clintonscanlon1325 Thanks for the LD, bro
@jon don Thanks for the info bro! I'm thinking of picking up a set of 14s and mounting them to the TNV/PVS-14 Powered Bridge Mount (PBM-A).
What IR Laser / Light are you running? I was looking at the MAWL & the DBAL, but since I'm building a CQB rig, it was suggested that I consider the Surefire X400v & the Streamlight TLR-VIR 2.
Lot of money on the table
Dude casually breaks a few pairs lol
pvs14 compared to pvs18? Cant really find a lot about the 18 on the web!
Pvs18? That's not a thing. You didn't watch the video huh?
@@KineticConsulting let me rephrase it. Litton M982 ,on the web its refered sometimes as pvs-18, dont know why. Is it acctualy a 14?
@@lukakrsul1268 these are anvis 10s
Night Vision Inc sells a product called PVS18s labeled as the "only fully waterproof night vision device in the world" lol I guess for scuba diving with night vision?
@@KineticConsulting He's talking about the AN/PVS-18 or the M983. It's half of a PVS-15 turned into a monocular, it has a two dovetails so you don't need a J-arm and you can reverse it easily, like it's got a Norotos DDA built into it.
In my days…..NODS + Flying = motion sickness
Forey
"Driving under these are really difficult", never met a Border Patrol Agent working midnights driving off road under nods with no other IR illumination.
Says that stand alone 14s are trashy but shows 70% of bridged nvg based of 14s parts and tubes XD. Good vid though thanks for sharing !
Never said the parts were trash. Using one isn't as good as duals.
@@KineticConsulting got ya thx
Yeah people need to remember not all of us work for big uncle sam and big daddy government where we get that shit for free
I don't get night vision for free
how are you getting it for free?
uncle sam is gonna get several thousand dollars and several weeks of extra duty if you try taking these for free lol
because aviators are fragile
Pvs-14 bootlicker