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35:24 🤔🤔🤔 *Thus far.. I have a feeling Ethan is doing "Roids"! And it would definitely explain his erratic behaviour and his anger!* *I have seen "Roid Rage" and it looks a lot like this!*
Thx this was my Halloween horror story. This will stay with me for days. Judy saved so many victims from being hurt. Obviously she shouldnt have been killed. What is the answer tho? Judy did everything rt, didnt she?🙄
I would NOT expect content of this quality to be released once a week, every week. Unless you're taking off several months a year, like with television. ❤❤
This is quite a leap of relevancy to your original comment but this makes me question afterlife a lot. How can heaven be unconditional bliss where you can see what's happening on earth when you get murdered by your son who turned out to be a psychopath? Imagine holding your kid for the first time with the incredible feeling of loving your child, and then fast forward 15 years later. Genuine mindf*ck
I had to force myself to finish the video, the cringe was so intense that I had to skip through some of his "acting". I truly hope he'll be ridiculed for this for the rest of his life.
This kid told a psychiatrist, a school counselor, and a teacher that he had these repetitive thoughts to kill, and they did nothing. Not to mention adopting as his idol a murderous psychopath.
sadly our laws don’t cover charging a person for what he MIGHT do - and we got rid of insane asylums years ago - we need them back ! they would be full
The psychiatrist has a duty to warn, so I don't know what happened there. The teacher is a mandatory reporter, so wtf? I believe that the counselor would be a mandatory reporter as well. So many people failed that poor woman. What a shame.
For people saying that no one can do anything until an actual crime is committed is not completely true. Orders of protection can be filed, mental health observations with psychiatric professionals can be arranged and her can be put on medication.
What’s sad is that this woman told multiple people that she was afraid of her own son and everyone, especially his father, thought she was being over dramatic. And eventually she lost her life. This kid needed help long before this happened. He should have been in residential treatment several years before the murder.
Is there residential treatment for psychopathy? For minors? Oh god! What an awful place to work. Can you imagine being a completely ignored counselor there?😱 I’m a counselor in a residential facility for criminal behavior and addiction. And I thought my clientele was rough…
💯💯💯this. This "kid" islike Alex from "The clockwork orange" muvie. I bet he has seen this muvie and decided that this will be his prefered method to bullie people.
@@kubricksghost6058My father's "normal" That's ehy this shit doesn't work on me. But grew up with one of his kind was a freaking nightmare. I am so glad that he is 6 feet under.
It's absolutely unforgiveable that the father ignored the mother when she said "I'm scared he will kill me in my sleep". Absolutley disgusting. A mother doesn't say that about her son lightly
I've said this about my son since he was 11 yrs old, he's now 25. He's been arrested 19x he's currently in prison. What do you think the father should have done? This is a real question because I've been so upset that his dad can just walk away and leave me with this kid that can kill me. But I also think what else can he do? It hasn't happened yet and it's either me, him or his wife. Idk. 🤷♀️
@@alexisjune892Keep your distance. Get cameras around your house, as best as you can afford. Get good locks, reinforced doors that make it harder to break in without letting you know something's happening. Get a firearms and learn how to use it, and keep it easily accessible to you, not unloaded and in a safe where you can't get it in time. Don't ever reach out to him first. If he contacts you, that's fine. If you ignore him when he reaches out, it may cause anger, but if you don't reach out yourself, he may get distracted with life and sort of forget about you for long periods. You'll never be 100% out of the risk zone, but there are things you can do to make it easier for yourself and harder for him. Good luck.
@@alexisjune892 A father has the duty to protect his wife, even against his own children. I heard this from a catholic dude. Like, if the children raise their voice and disrespect the mother, the father must intervene and protect the wife. I guess it is like a family hierarchy thing.
@@alexisjune892He is 25. He's gonna have to sort things out on his own...you can support from afar if at all. But be careful what personal information he has access to of yours, especially if you move. If he's too far gone and that unstable, it may be best to run away and never look back.
At some points like the “think of him as a business” he follows up with “his book” and it honestly sounds like he believes Bateman is the one who wrote it.
@@katattack907the only issue is that you can’t diagnose any child under the age of 18 with ASPD. The brain is still developing and it could always just boil down to a kid reacting to their environment. Kids that display ASPD traits can outgrow them, but you can never really tell until they’re adults.
@@jacobsirois2862 that's a good point about the existing diagnostic categories for minors. But this kid was what, 16? Do many teens actually grow out of their callous/antisocial behavior after that age (genuinely curious if you have any stats)? For that matter, if our brains keep developing until 25 or so, should 18 year olds even be held responsible as adults for their violent actions? And couldn't you make an argument that an adult with ASPD is also just reacting to their environment? Psychopathy is a neurodivergence that really intrigues me because its consequences can be extremely harmful and we really don't have effective tools or strategies for dealing with it yet.
So many people keep blaming Judy for not institutionalizing him but she didn’t even have the power to do that. Mental health professionals need to put in those requests and begin that process. Everyone failed her. Even the people in these comments that keep victim blaming her.
The harsh reality is that personality disorders like ASPD (psychopathy) are nearly impossible to treat, so the chance that any amount of treatment would have resulted in him not ultimately becoming a violent killer, is infinitesimal. He was probably going to become a killer eventually regardless of how much therapy he received. His mother should be remembered as a victim who heroically sacrificed her life so that the monster who murdered her was unable to take the lives of numerous other victims. The fact is that his mother was the only person who he had even the tiniest emotional connection to in any way. Killing her facilitated a very small reactionary response in him, which resulted in a short pause of his spree as he walked to his father’s home. She is the ONLY victim that was able to temporarily curtail his plans to immediately go on a massive homicidal spree, which could have included the most vulnerable and innocent. If his first kill would have been anyone else, he would not have temporarily paused and many more people would have lost their lives in horrific ways. His mother’s sacrifice saved countless innocent victims that night and she should be honored for her sacrifice by every viewer.
@@emilycarter2492 When parents know they have a psychopath in the family, they should do everything in their power to let people know so at least they can be forewarned. In this case the mother was killed, in many cases it is hidden from everyone and innocent people are murdered.
@@brrrrrrrrino Incorrect. The MH professionals have to be told there is even a problem first, they don't pluck their information out of the air. The family or caregiver or whoever should report/request help or whatever is needed and do so repeatedly until they are heeded. Things escalate unnoticed if the people at the centre do nothing, anc pass responsibility onto a third party to do something. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Yes that’s a really good question. I think parents should held accountable too , that many time he said i have this monster that need to kill. 1:50 told the psychiatrist he needs more medicine 💊 I think the horror movies can get somebodys brain in reallY bad ideas , if they are too deep in. Those psycho in the fillms that he watched was his idols.
Poor woman spent hours walking or aimlessly digging her garden just to avoid her own son. She must have scared witless. I cant begin to imagine the anguish. My thoughts are all for her.
She’s Resting In Paradise without a doubt. I would NOT have him in my home if I were feeling that way. It’s too scary. If I felt the intuition that my child was a danger to me; I’d place him or her in a mental hospital. It’s not safe whatsoever! Never take things like this lightly and think that it’ll go away. It’ll only get worse. My 16 yr old daughter acted very crazy when she was 16. Disrespectful & not listening to anything I’d told her to do. Didn’t want to focus on education. Top priority for me. I didn’t believe in spanking like my former father did to me & step-mother. So I told her she wasn’t allowed to go out. Especially on school nights. She was VERY UPSET! She literally tried to beat me up! I NEVER laid a hand on my “parents” that is w/o a doubt disrespectful and I never talked back either. Millennials now; they seem to cross boundaries due to having no consequences for their actions. I had to hold her fists as she kicked me. Telling her to stop. 💔😢 it hurt! Couldn’t believe how kids are & how they could do this to their own parents. Anyhow, she’d grown up & stopped talking to her former best-friend who influenced her to do drugs, and take a flight to Northern Cali to meet a boy she’d never met w/ his parents! I told her not to go. She ignored me. The parents influenced her to sleep w/ him! No condoms, etc! I was astounded! He’d NEVER had a gf b4 so apparently she’d lost it to him & moved to Iowa. 💔😢 I told her you don’t know what life is like. You haven’t even lived life to the fullest & haven’t experienced life! You can’t just go w/ this guy & think this is love! He doesn’t even have a proper education & doesn’t have a job. His parents are the ones influencing you. Don’t do this. I’ve always been accurate w/ what I’ve said. I told her it won’t go well. Don’t do this. You’ll regret it. 😔💔 Life is what it is. Very devastating for parents that love their children so much but yet they get assaulted by their own children. Absolutely brutal. May she be at peace and her family and friends remember her always w/ a big heart & her caring nature! 🙏🕊️🤍
@@Mirabel1erI think he probably would have killed her sooner if she reported him to some kind of mental institution. Unfortunately no matter how bad the child's behavior you can't send them to a place like that against their will. I don't know what I would have done. Probably just pack up my stuff and go
Watching this kid defend himself is just like watching a 1980’s job training video. Like, if the police academy had a low budget interrogation training video…..
This kid's voice is absolutely grating, he's incredibly immature and mocking. Is he trying to be that obnoxious????? The detectives had zero control over this interrogation.
@@racheltarentino3314 About 1.2% of U.S. adult men and 0.3% to 0.7% of U.S. adult women are considered to have clinically significant levels of psychopathic traits. No, they’re not “everywhere”. There are between 0.5% and 5% of people in the U.S. may have Narcissistic traits. They may be who you’re referring to, but don’t be ignorantly spreading misinformation.
The first thing the dad said when he was told his ex wife passed away was "Ethan did it, huh?" That was so amazing to look at how much they knew he was unstable and has been for a while. Has to be one of parents worst nightmares.
@@theresaohman7187not much help for people like this. Therapy is about it and people like this guy will manipulate and charm the therapist every step of the way. There is no help or cure for psychopaths
But when you're feeling scared, confused and unsupported you question yourself. And you love your kids, you hope your love is enough to help them through anything.
Imagine that attitude on a daily everyday all day on repeat poor mom is not even strong enough to explain how I feel toward that poor lady. She seem so nice on top of it ;w; Remind me of Sid from Toy Story
Not trying to victim blame but I’m not going to act like she was some poor put upon mother who had no hand in creating him. Many parents of divorce parent by guilt, not wanting to give their kids more discomfort than necessary. Kid learns he can leverage that guilt or even parents against each other. Not saying it’s easy to overcome for the parent but you have to recognize that you’re doing it. Had a friend whose brother was SA’d at a young age. Mom became more permissive and excused his behaviors as a result of the trauma. His sisters are both functional adults, holding good jobs. He is in and out of prison, has multiple kids by multiple women and broke into his last job.
“Why would I kill my mom? She bought me expensive things.” Disgusting. I lost my mom when I was young and I can’t imagine that being the thing I remember or brag about her for. Smh
What's wrong with being incredibly kind and generous and being remembered for such 🤔 there's nothing disgusting about that. Now this pos on the other hand is psychopathic maniac.
@@Haruspell I’m sorry for your loss. Just remember to always keep your guard up. People like us who lose parents at a young age can be even more susceptible to addiction later in life and it can get when you least expect it. Luckily I was able to get clean and turn my life around but many of my friends weren’t so fortunate. I’m rooting for you. Just stay strong.
A life sentence for murder should not be considered to be "cruel and unusual" punishment. The thought that this monster will be eligible for parole in 10 yrs is frightening. The legislators are really screwed up.
Insane that people are doing time for drug deals. Prison should not be a “penalty.” It should be to keep the rest of us safe. This man is clearly not safe.
Fortunately, im pretty sure that judges can make an exception for specific heinous crimes and still give life without parole sentences to minors of certain ages.
Legislators commit crimes just as horrific as this., this boy wasn't born this way. This was learned behavior during the developmental stage of puberty via his exposure to inappropriate entertainment and literature. Lack of parental guidance and proper discipline I'm sure played a role in his character building. Parents need to be far more diligent in what they expose their children to and allow their children to come Into agreement and interest with.
@@AT-sf1db Idk how much of nurture is cause for this boys nature, he didn't show any remorse for doing something that most normal people would be in hysterics about
*_Do NOT blame poor Judy. She had the bad luck of getting a psychopatic child. Most psychopaths are born, not made. There is some genetics involved. I feel so bad for her._* *Rest in eternal peace, Judy.* 🕯
If you failed this badly as a parent and you're afraid of your child you probably shouldn't wait around for them to kill you, Maybe seek help or send them away to a place that can be more of a success than you.
@eh-i1841 that sounds the most safe, and makes sense in the spirit of safety, but as a minor, she'd be charged with abandonment and neglect. Parents don't have a lot of options with things like this. Police also have their hands tied often in domestic violence situations and say to take it to civil court. I can't even imagine having to have to deal with this. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
@@haretyper4954I don't see that as victim shaming. It's spreading awareness, so as to educate others who may be dealing with personality disordered children. Dialogue is necessary in order for action to be taken, rather than shaming someone under the ironic guise of them being the one causing unwarranted shame.
Man. You do your best to raise your children. With no suspicions as to them ever wanting to end your life. What a crazy story here. People like this deserve that cell and to never walk amongst normal people again.
After binge watching this channel for the past two weeks I thought maybe he was just unseasoned and didn't have a lot of experience. When he said he's been doing this for 30 years, I balked. 😮
Because he's one of those old career boomer man's man kinda guys. "well, I mean.. Frank HAS been with the department for a decade, where do we put him..? Vice? Narcotics? He NEVER missed work..." Next it's like "well, shit... Frank is up for a review, but he's really holding back the newer guys on narcotics, he calls Marijuana dope, and couldn't spot anything else right in front of him... Like they had meth and crack on the table and he mentioned it was all clear except drywall on a scale... But it was crack... Well.. Fuck it... Put him on homicide, it's been, what... 5 years since we had one of them? Yeah.. Homicide.. Then just let him coast until retirement.. Still never missed work but I think he's drinking on the job now too... "
EXXXACTLY! I’m utterly speechless 😶 😮 33:39 what appears to be happening is that the detective is completely incompetent and is doing everything to destroy any rapport with this sick guy, instead of trying to get on the same side with him to get him talking! I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an incompetent lackadaisical interview of a suspect in my life.
Allowing your child to bully you is beyond insane!!! It was her job to teach him how to act or give him the help she clearly knew he was desperately in need of. How is it so hard to take your child to a therapist or psychiatrist? Not acting on his terrible behavior is what led to her demise
Right!? I was a troubled kid, constantly getting suspended time and time again because I refused to be bullied or tested by the other kids. I’ll tell you for sure that the most terrifying thing to me was when I would get home after getting into trouble 😂 My Mom didn’t have any time for the nonsense and games and she didn’t hesitate to discipline us when it was necessary. I knew not to talk back my parents, or be disrespectful to teachers/my elders. I’m grateful that I grew up that way especially when you see stories like this one.☝️
@@PandaCheeks I can’t speak for other women/girls, but I most certainly was not coddled in any kind of way by my parents. My parents were crazy strict and my brothers had a lot more freedom than the girls did.
@@zodiaccentral8908I think that’s what they mean, some parents think that their daughters are helpless so they don’t give them any responsibilities or freedoms. My parents shamed into getting a job at 16 while I was struggling greatly with school and anxiety and depression, meanwhile my sister had everything paid for immediately and didn’t work half as much as me.
I don’t understand the father, when his son got nasty at his house he returned him to the scared mother living by herself. I guess out of sight out of mind, shame on him.
true, but he did ask for help, and no one gave it to him. gave plenty of red flags that the parents friends and psychiatrist ignored. He doesn't have feelings and was most likely born that way (brain abnormality), so it was inevitable he would eventually act out. I don't believe he should be free in society, but they should have acted sooner.
@@Angen77he clearly has a capacity for anger. And not all people that lack emotion act out - that‘s quite a stretch. I’d guess a large percentage of violent crimes are actually caused by uncontrolled emotions.
Out of all these real life interrogation videos, which i've seen quite a few of...this is one of the sickest for sure. Not as bad as child killers but pretty bad still. Don't really care much about his stupid antics and Bateman impersonations, but the thrill and pride he clearly felt afterwards and total lack of remorse were pretty unsettling. He clearly has feelings, strong ones, but only for himself. Should never let him out in my opinion, he will do it again
You said this kid got no help, then mention a psychiatrist & a detective asked for permission to speak to his therapist. Sounds like he got plenty of help. @Angen77
I can't help but feel like lots of people in Judy's life failed her. They should have pushed harder to get her out of that situation. I've known some "overdramatic" people in my life and none have ever claimed they were afraid someone was going to kill them. That's a very specific fear no one should shrug off.
Judy had choices and she chose to let her son live with her despite her extreme fear. Judy failed herself. Ethan should have been committed to a juvenile psyche ward long ago. Even with meds and therapy, these mentally ill people remain a danger to society and themself. The shrink, the dad, and the school Ethan went to, all failed.
Look,,, you cannot help others see the light sometimes,,, she failed by spoiliing him and not correcting him when he was young. She created her own monster,,, I know at least 3 women that did the same thing,,, all divorced and all weak willed..
Oh man. My nephew started to behave exactly like this toddler here. My nephew is 11 now but his extreme tirades began in 2020 when my father died. He is truly a terribly difficult child to be around and I find him terrifying. I will never leave him alone with my 2 year old son and I lose sleep some nights because I worry so much that he’s going to hurt my sister and brother in law one day. He has been admitted to the mental institution for children 2 times this year. No matter the countless thousands that have been spent on every kind of therapy you can imagine, medication & lifestyle changes my nephew just stays the same way.
Sometimes this is just how people are. Could have been born with atypical neurology or it could have been under the surface and triggered by an event. And short of practically tranquillizing them, there’s a lot who just don’t respond to medication we currently have. I’m sorry you’re going through this and hope he is able to get effective help.
@@BiomedicalDesignsyou don’t need to spread that bullshit right now pal. An exorcism isn’t going to fix a naturally rotten child. Almost nothing CAN fix people like that
These are the same people who fight daily to take the right to protect ourselves and our families away. I have been shocked at the monsters the judicial system has let out repeatedly over the last few years especially.
I had siblings like this. Crazy violent stuff would happen and parents would always get mad at me for wanting to call the police. Brother used to run around screaming and banging on the door with a shot gun while i would hide behind it with my little niece and nephew. Sometimes i use to just leave the house with the kids until they left or things calmed down. It was horrible. I feel bad for that mother. You feel helpless physically and emotionally. You dont want to believe your baby turned into a monster.
Context-Brother didn't normally act that way but was addicted to meth and Xanax and would often lose his mind. They were eventually kicked out and still haven't straightened out their lives 5 years later. Living like that was traumatizing. You never know when something bad will happen. Now I refuse to ever be put in situations like that again. It doesn't matter if we are family. Sadly that mom found out too late.
Thinking about this woman's last moments is so disturbing and sad. You know that the last thing she saw was her son killing her, and that must have been so terrifying, confusing and heartbreaking.
i had an ex seriously try to hurt me, if not kill me, and i’ll never forget the feeling of betrayal & sheer terror realizing that someone i loved so much & would do almost anything for would want to hurt me like that. i absolutely cannot imagine realizing that your own son was going to kill you. hopefully there is peace and full understanding in the afterlife, hopefully there is a fulfilling answer as to why
I agree. This kid is literally evil. He doesn't deserve to see the light of day outside of prison or in an institution. The thought of him being among society truly frightens me. RIP to his mother.
He's no longer a kid now and I think he should be on the death row... Having no feelings for killing the person who brought him into this world... it's really sad how he was being influenced mentally by movies and books. RIP to his mother, Judy.
my exact thoughts. it was more cringe-worthy then watching and listening to Ethan. Hopefully the video and its analysis can be used for future training.
@@Epic_C It's clear that he should. He doesn't listen, doesn't let the suspect "bond" over the thing he was passionate about, finally gets him talking then interrupts him repeatedly, has no idea how to drive an interrogation, eesh. Time to retire, dude.
This guy is the worst liar I have seen in a long time! I mean yes, he is guilty as all hell, but even though the detective skipped quite a few commonly used steps in interrogations, this kid didn't stand a chance! He reminds me of that "Don't make me break out the bi-polar" guy that helped that Ellie girl in the murder of her father.
Agreed. However well-read he was and no matter his good grades, the way he tried to explain away the obvious clues of his guilt along with the silly illogical story of this 'other killer' was like listening to a pre-schooler explain how the cookies were gone from the jar.
My experience has been that many mental health professionals are bad at helping with things, pertaining to autism. I could imagine that it could be the same for ASPD. A lot of them never seek help. So less clinicians will be likely to have a germane skill set. Seeing any sort of specialist can be a huge PITA. Its not like we have a particularly functional health care system at all.
The US does nothing. All they do is wrote prescription after prescription. This is why the crime rate is so high. Lots of crazies walking around with drugs in their system, throwing off the brain chemistry even more.
i don't think ethan realises how illogical it is for a random intruder to say "hey can you stab your own mother once for me" and after they leave, you go "well, better wash this off"
Yeah, along with "The killer left me alone in the garage and shut the door to the house, but instead of escaping out through the garage, I knocked on the door and waited for the OK to go back inside with the armed murderous intruder." Like, a 5 year old might tell a more believable story than this.
It’s pretty obvious that this kid is an idiot. He’s trying so hard to be this manipulative killer but he’s so stupid that he doesn’t come even remotely close to pulling it off.
@@calgaryhockey6991because in his mind, he HAD to be involved, had to put his mark on her while ALSO trying to maintain being the victim story … I’m with someone like this and the amount of illogical things that come out of his mouth ALMOST make you want to ALMOST feel bad for them having such a confusing, uncontrollable mental state. It’d be a terrible existence, truly.
I just want to say that I love how accurate this channel is regarding diagnoses. So many people throw around the term “psychopath” and “antisocial” in incorrect ways and never talk about Conduct Disorder. Fantastic job, EWU!
What should Judy have done to survive Ethan. She got him mental health. Yet no cure for lack of empathy & compassion. I believe Judy being killed by Ethan saved so many more victims. He has smarts to learn how to kill like his role models.
@@hoebywan some kids “outgrow” conduct disorder or they have a different personality disorder that cant be distinguished at their age/maturity…but ultimately yes😂
@@hoebywan yeah. Like with kids it is so hard to truly diagnose/distinguish certain disorders (i.e. ODD vs DMDD vs conduct disorder) because you cant really see what the kid would do on their own (in some cases) if that makes sense. Like would they do worse things if their parents aren’t around? If they could drive on their own? Etc. 😬 Edit: That’s why i added the quotes😂
It's so fascinating that someone as cringe and lame as this can be a murderer. It's insane. I mean he literally sounds like he's trying to act like someone in a TV show
@@mayj257 and pretty much changed into Bateman for no reason? He wasn't looking, he was influenced the same way. He thought American Psycho is cool, like "sigmas" do now xd
@@Bleacher22 pretending to be someone, to the point theyre copying even their morning routine, which isnt even to manipulate anyone means you are influenced by them, they have influenced his actions. if anything, hes the most influenced person ive ever seen and its hilarious that he tried claiming that he cant be influenced.
"All these kids are freaking whacked out on some kind of medication" You must have missed that little tid bit. His behavior sounds exactly like the side effects pamphlet for most psychiatric medications.
@@thearmy88ify NO it's called having a conduct disorder this display is nothing the anger as stated in the video was all farce had he not been medicated you would have really seen some rage and I'm guessing depending on how well he learned coping mechanisms maybe a go at the crappy investigator cop.
The last detective who interviewed him has nerves of steel to listen to this absolute psycho describe in chilling detail how he murdered his mother. Much respect for this officer.
And to just calmly stare right at him when he aggressively bangs the table. He could very well have jumped on the cop with that temper but the cop didn't even flinch and stayed up close and personal.
Yes, I was married to a psychopath. When we were dating, he amazed me one time by talking to someone about a subject I didn't know he knew. So, I complimented him on all his knowledge. He told me, "When I was young, I began learning a little about every topic, so I could talk to anyone to get them to trust me." AHHHH- I should have ran!
Sorry you went through that. Saying you learn a bit of everything so you can talk to everyone isn't really bad, but doing it so they can "trust" you is something else all together
My son ex displays traits of psychopathy, BPDand bipolar disorder. She literally is dangerous yet always the victim. Watching this video reminds me of her. Im freaked out
@@cheriedavies6116our son is the same way, he would hit us for not getting his way, or not buying him what he wanted or for no reason at all. Then he would explain why it was my fault he hit me, then he’d say he’d tell his teachers to call CPS because I hit him (never once laid a hand on him or even spanked him). I told him that was fine, I had shut off his cell phone for misbehavior and I just told him I could use the vacation and his cell phone would have to stay off permanently then because I couldn’t work to pay his cell phone bill if I’m in jail for child abuse, and if he ended up in foster care they wouldn’t get him a cell phone either. So his only shot at getting the phone turned back on was to straighten up and stop hitting me. The look he gave me, I thought he’d kill me then, but then he knew he wouldn’t get a cell phone in juvenile detention. That cell phone was the only thing I ever saw him “care” about.
It's astounding that he can sit there and say that people who base their crimes on movies are unintelligent and uncreative, and not realize that's exactly what he's done. Seems like a good indication that he's not only evil, but quite literally incapable of any form of self reflection.
@@lanahaxer I don't think he possesses the level of self awareness required for something like that. These traits and impulses were always inside of him, he used Bateman's character as validation and justification to act this way. It was his prime example of what to strive to be as a result of overcompensation for his lack of identity and purpose. He wanted to feel special and different and would hurt and manipulate anybody to achieve this. He so badly wants to live up to this image of himself that he created in his mind that he isn't thinking very hard past that point. I don't think he even read any of those books he bullied his mom into buying for him. They're just more cosplay props for him to live out his mentally ill fantasy of parroting American Psycho.
@@spookyf1nger979considering he thinks patrick bateman is real and actually successful in real life proves he’s not self aware he’s a perfect example of someone who think they’re different than the rest not realizing he’s trying his hardest to be someone else
@@erin6015 Right? Probably can't even see the movie now with out being like ''Ethan Windom thinks he's like this guy...'' in my own head and turn it off.
Sad that not only had the mom said she was scared of him,but he himself told people including his doctor what he was feeling and asked to be locked up. Why did they not listen?
Because most people do not care about what happens to girls and women. We are hated and they would not dare punish a boy or a man. That is why most males get away with anything and women who fight back, are severely punished or killed. We see it it every day around the world. Everyone will know a man raped a 6yr old, but at most he'll get 4months in jail. Yet when a woman kills a known rapist in self defense, she gets the book thrown at her or is murdered by other men in retaliation, bec how dare a woman fight back?
Yeah, plenty of warning. But for some reason, many people don’t believe in “preventative” treatment. He could’ve been committed, studied, MAYBE even helped, with no victims involved. Part of the problem is that we don’t really have any good treatment for psychopathy. We barely know exactly what’s causing it in the brain, much less how to treat it. One of the interview notes onscreen said that Ethan himself thought he was “this way” because he got hit in the head with a baseball, which is honestly very plausible. I’m not saying he should be free, but perhaps he could be “fixed”, if we knew more about the brain. The medical field is still struggling with complex medical concerns. It’s tragic for everyone.
The most frightening thing about this whole video is that this psychopath is going to be back out on the streets in as little as 10 years. Thanks for bringing this to us, EWU!!!!
I’m sure someone with his kind of agreeable personality will do well at his parole hearing. Besides this is not the kind of dude that can do his bid and keep his head down for 10 years.
@@defaultname7685he was still a minor though. By 2033 he might be more mature in his tactics after learning from his mistakes in this interrogation. He has an obsession with learning to manipulate people. He will modify his strategy for sure. He's probably in his cell practicing how to fake cry as I type this lol.
It’s so sad that this mother cried for help and none listened. I can’t imagine the fear this woman lived with every day knowing what was coming. This child should have been committed years before this happened. Rest peacefully Judy.
@@GlitterC8k expand that idea... do you really think the best ineterests of the kid are going to be the reason for this idea you suggest? or don't you think a bad parent is just gonna "give up" and force an innocent child into that system just because the parent is a selfish bastard? your intention is great and amazing to consider for everybody involved... but that's not how these things get used. only innocents get put through them. it took forever for americans to realise the circular logic with the prison system. get arrested for minor infraction, get thrown in jail falsely... months, maybe a year goes by, and that innocent, doesn't appreciate what they got jailed for, they distrust the law enforcement and judges, then they live as they want, knowing full well that being in jail is just a partial stay before they're thrown away again. only to get caught doing other shit and back they go. sure. SOME people deserve it and it helps them for rehab into society, but innocents, they revile the system for what happened to them and, justly, they become the criminals and animals society told them they are. keep your intentions and integrity. figure out a real solution. you wrote a really short version of your thoughts. but "as is" that will only harm innocents and benefit bastards.
This is like my mum with my sister….we’ve all cried out for help , but the authorities only see the act she puts on to manipulate them. I worry that one day she might snap and murder my mum. Social aren’t bothered , I’ve warned them if anything happens they will be held over their failings. So it’s not just America these people are all over the world.
This one gives me chills. I had an ex who was violent and obsessed with Patrick Bateman. He talked just like this kid when he would get mad, it’s uncanny. The scoffing, laughing, attempt to talk down. Even got locked up for trying to strangle me during a fight. After everything I’ve learned from this channel it truly makes me wonder if he’s a budding killer. Glad I got out.
I have had some nutty exes too, and yeah a strangler. He got out on bail before I could even get a ride back to my parents' house, so I could not safely talk to the DA. Glad you got out too.
@@foxlimbs7167 lol I know right, all these dudes thinking they're so badass, when everyone else is rolling their eyes. I've known a few of them, they are the most sensitive flowers you've ever met! Can't take a single slight to their ego. They absolutely lose their shit if you laugh at them
I’m 45 minutes into watching this. That first detective was 100% doing everything incorrectly. According to almost all of the 1000’s of these types of videos that I have watched. Goodness Me. What a sad thing. The detective could have avoided wasting precious time, by instead of taking literally everything personally, he could have approached Ethan with a more ‘understanding & positive manner’ albeit a means to an end. Gee Whizz
We all know psychopaths are dangerous, but a lot of people also tend to think that psychopaths are highly intelligent masterminds. Then there's Ethan, proving the complete opposite. Dangerous? Absolutely. Intelligent? Let me spell it out for Ethan: N O. Anyone else lose several brain cells just listening to him talk?
That's because being impulsive lying and being a manipulator are merely symptoms of psychopathic behavior. Not every symptom is present, so of course you will find people with this disorder who aren't able to accomplish these traits.
He seems to be on the spectrum IMO. ASD individuals are often very intelligent but have focused intense interests that are often obsessive. Interrupting patterns or the focus of their interest can result in massive meltdowns. Just as with anyone, this doesn't make them dangerous, but if one's obsession is paychopaths and role playing them one very well can be. Since social emotional skills are challenging for ASD individuals, role playing gives them a script that they know and can feel comfortable acting in, whereas general societal interaction can feel uncomfortable due to missing social cues and social mores, etc. That's my hypothesis on this guy.,
It's that detective that's blowing my mind He's like Tell me why you did it And keeps badgering away at a 16 yr old. Anyone that has ever had a son at that age knows it just makes um mad and they bull up I would have approached that young man way differently It' just made me angry.
In the last quarter, he's totally losing it. He can't find simple words, making weird faces and moving in abnormal ways....he's totally nuts. I feel SO bad for his mom, her ex husband and ESPECIALLY her older son completely failed her.
It's totally pathetically sad that his mother had to die for his evil mind to come to show to the right people so he could be put away for the rest of his life where he can't hurt anybody but himself unless he attacks other inmates , and I can totally see him being that kind of person
@@shimmershine6902 he got his mannerisms from that stupid movie he loves with that Looney serial killer, he talks like him moves like him and laughs like him at people at the weirdest times
I don’t know how many more warning signs Ethan could have given. Everyone knew. The school, his family, family friends. Seems like no one cared enough about Judy to do anything. Not to minimise what Ethan did but she didn’t die because her son is a homicidal psychopath, she died because no one cared enough about her.
She knew how dangerous he was, question is, why didn’t she have him committed to a mental facility. He is under 18, so she could have committed him. Not to say taking the chance that he would hurt her or a different innocent person. The father just didn’t care about the family he left to do anything.
@@myturn9431idk if it's thr same everywhere....but here if you 302 someone and have the committed., they'll only hold them for 48 hours unless they seem dangerous or suicidal, and 9 times out of 10, they can lie their way out of it. I've been through it countless times with my sister. So the mother was probably so scared to lock him up knowing he'd be out in a couple days it's sad how screwed up the whole mental health system is.
the fact that this kid genuinely believes he's the smartest person in the world despite barely being able to get out a coherent sentence, or go 10 seconds without a random outburst is truly embarrassing.
Yes, he appears unaware that there can be major differences between IQ intelligence and emotional intelligence. And that people lacking emotional intelligence are not usually successful. Maybe he really is delusional enough to think he can read and manipulate others well enough to be master of everything! At 16, he has no idea yet how much he doesnt know yet!😢.
Maybe he was just trying to be cool like the cool character in American Psycho.. why do people join the military to kill innocent little children in the Middle East .. why do people smoke .. why do people disfigure their bodies with tattoos ..why do people watch sports (adults play with a ball)... Why do people speed ..why do people drive loud vehicles... to feel cool and manly ..😊 because they are GENIUSES .. so this is scientific evidence that this kid is cool, manly AND genius 😊
@@chillingwithshillamhe can get out in 2033 literally in a decade he could be free. That’s not right he should have life all murders should get life no matter the age of them
@@chillingwithshillam did you not read the end part were it said he had another sentencing in 2019 and was giving 26 years and he’s already served 16 of them the guy in the video literally said he can be eligible for parole in 2033 maybe try watch the whole of the video next time before you think you know everything
American & the World's children had this crap shoved down their throats most of their young lives and it was a forever 'show me more ' so thanks to supposedly common sense lawmakers this is the result. Will they fix it??
These police officers/detectives are major cringe as well. I’ve watched a ton of interrogations and these guys are terrible. (It pains me to be from Boise)
He should NEVER get parole! Although I’m in the UK and think that life with out parole sentences should not be applied to juveniles, there are some cases (like this one) where parole could never be deemed safe.
I agree with you that many times juveniles shouldn’t be sentenced to life without parole. They changed that here in America too but some teens still receive it. With all that said, how do you feel about your justice system there? I watch lots of true crime and I’ve noticed rapists, murderers and child predators get much lighter sentences there than they typically would here. It happens here as well but doesn’t seem to be nearly as often. Are people in the UK frustrated with this at all?
thats essentially what psychopaths are: gigantic toddlers with smarts. they're individuals whose brains, emotionally, didnt develop past the infant-early toddler stage. they're stuck emotionally in the toddler/infant stage. they are toddlers in adult shells with adult strength and adult smarts. scary.
@@ivandragokrizanac9429 I’m sorry but that’s just not true. Ppl with ASPD definitely developed past infant toddler development lol or they wouldn’t be able to speak and calculate and sometimes have good social skills. You can be very developmentally advanced or have an intellectual disability with ASPD it’s a spectrum like most mental disorders/neurotypes
My ex was diagnosed bi-polar schizophrenic with accute delusions. This kid reminds me of him so much in the way he talks. Even down to the squeaky tone of voice. My ex also used to be heavily influenced by media. At one point he swore he was Keyser Soze from the usual suspects. He also thought he was superior and more intelligent than most people. He also would switch is tone of voice and how he talked on the drop of a hat. This whole interview gave me the chills Ironically he also brutally killed his mother a few years after I broke up with him. He was in his 40s. He was never prosecuted because he decided to take his own life before anyone even found out what had happened. This kid honestly scares me and I hope he never sees the light of day I wouldn't doubt if he did it again
I was actually numb when I heard about what he had done. I truly feel like I dodged a bullet. To this day, I thank God I got out of that situation before he completely went off the deep end
What a strange, strange kid. It’s like he’s a 6 year old trying to act like a big bad gangster. The most shocking part of this whole video is the part where it says he did great in school and was in the top classes and AP classes. 🤷🏻♀️ He just seems so immature and like he wouldn’t even sit through a class. I can’t blame the detectives for being irritated with him honestly, he’s so incredibly obnoxious it was hard to even watch this, let alone try to speak to him. 😬
I was thinking the same thing, I was in advanced English classes throughout high school, he just didn't come across as someone who would be in such a class, but who knows 🤷♀️
@@chardiemacdennis7218 yeah, true. But that was mentally ill like I have never quite seen before. Very odd manner of speaking and mannerisms. Seemed as if he was attempting to play a character rather than being himself.
His head went completely over the meaning of the movie/book as well lmao. Hes so confident describing patrick’s character, as if the point of the movie was to illustrate the ideals of what a psychopath is or could be. I believe bateman’s mind, at the end of the film, could even be seen as the voice of reason! The movie is not a documentary on a psychopath. The movie is a commentary on the capitalist model of business this society runs on, having the killings depict tactics that are often seen as normal in society just to gain an advantage for your interests. To the point where at the end whatever bateman did doesn’t even matter because everyone he was around did it too (metaphorically speaking). They even found a way to cover it up so they could sell the apartment! This critique on society just uses patrick as a vessel, to deliver a message. Anyone of sound mind (or that even watched the whole movie, maybe understands literary devices to some degree, also knows a bit about psychology ) knows that patrick is not an example of how psychopaths behave in the real world and what happened in the movie was exaggerated to the point even patrick himself can not distinguish from reality and imagination at times because of how absurd everything is. If the guy sitting in this interrogation room was so smart he would’ve picked another idol to excuse his sadistic tendencies and his overall disgusting personality. And if he was even smarter he would’ve just tried to live a semi normal life until he could get appropriate help.
29:59 is very telling. He cites food and clothes when trying to convince the detectives that it makes no sense for him to be the killer. He immediately went to material gains instead of saying he loved her, which is some haunting insight.
You're right, but also I could very well have said a similar thing about my mum when younger, despite not having harmed her. Sometimes I wonder if over-analysis is a thing. I kind of want to see how they handle an innocent person with ASC (or some other neurodivergent condition) in such an interrogation.
@@blazednlovinit well yeah, I'm saying it's particularly insightful given the context... Also I doubt you'd be saying that after she was found murdered.
Everyone's love languages are different, his might have well been material items IF we didn't already know more about what really happened. Or his mom may have not did a lot of verbal love language, but gifting and it was a learned response that having things meant you loved a person and that person loved you. Really hard to know inside another's mind and their reasonings
Yeah it becomes more the feeling of “they really destroyed the rest of their life and others for a Patrick Bateman obsession?” It’s sad but very disappointing and pitiful.
For me it’s more like I used to find these crimes sad and shocking but now I feel like I understand more that these are real crimes people have done. The feeling I would describe it as is really creepy. I would say some of the crimes also definitely make me cringe too. Some of the things people kill for is incredibly ridiculous. Especially when they kill because of some petty inconvenience. It’s also cringy that people think they can outsmart detectives and get away with murder.
Im clueless on what a mom should do when they bore a psychopath. Dr Phil had nothing on this. 1st Ukraine was bad then Israel & now Gaza. When in USA we have mass shootings everywk & rd rage. We r on earth to love & care for each other. Im disabled & cant have a pity party compared to what Judy, Ethan's mom had to live thru. She loved & feared her own son. Olden days there were fist fights & today bullets😢
you can tell this guy is really tough, because after hours of puffing out his chest, flailing his flabby arms and denying it he throws it all away just for the promise of not having to share a cell with a criminal who doesn't target old ladies.
This made me want to tell my mother (whom I love and have had a peaceful co-existence with) that I apologize for any issues she had with me. Rest in peace, Judith.
He is the most annoying child I've ever seen on this channel. I've watched a lot of interrogations and not only is every action melodramatic but he's a terrible liar. Truly just horrible at lying. It's the equivalent of how a 5 year old would react when being told "no" by a parent.
Excellent analysis. Very few people actually understand this. This comment should be pinned, so it can be seen by the 99.9% of people who think that the kid is honest and mature.
he was put on anxiety meds and depression meds when he was just a young boy, look up and read (state VS windom). child abuse from the mother. that backfired years later. anyone who puts children on anti psychotic meds when there still children are sick in there head the brain is not developed. let your child smoke a joint the state will come take your kid and charge you. but corporate drug dealers can perscribe literal children pychotic medicine? and parents will do it? how do u make a 7 year old take a pill? crush it up put in there orange juice? shove it down there throat? absolutely disgusting. make that make since,. any adult parent to put a child on anti psychotics isn't a real parent anyways. period.
That's what gets me! She voiced that she was afraid for her life. That she needed help. Poor Judy gave so many signs that she needed someone to get her away from her son.
I think out of the 10+ different titles this video has changed to, "When the Killer is Cringe" was the best one 😂 I enjoyed the narrative calling out that first interrogator for his bad interrogation tactics. Dude gave zero effort and then got mad when Ethan was getting cocky lol
I've seen a ton of interrogations and this one is by far the worst. The fact that he's only 16 and allowed to control the interview with his outbursts and consistent rambling. I hope these detectives learned something from this case. R.I.P. to his mother.
In the end, he confessed in great detail, so it seems like a highly successful interrogation to me. As far as interrogations go, I'd say who cares how it goes so long as it doesn't result in inadmissible evidence or a false confession.
If you ever dealt with a crazy person, you would know that you don't control "the situation" you have to deescalate it before it gets worst. This kid is straight up nuts and should not be messed with.
@@saddad6601 I have the same feelings. He did make a few classical moves and quotes, but all in the wrong time or for the wrong reason. I'm not sure who is more cringe in that situation tbh
Oh please, none of you would have the first clue what to do. Because you watched a few interviews your an expert? Also he does a good job with the videos but there a lot of things he is guessing at or pointing out a cues that aren't really there. He got the confession. Period.
@@matthewdenhof5841you can't rehabilitate evil. Crime against humanity? No it isn't. It's deserved. That's what you get when you take a life, as it should be.
@@matthewdenhof5841I agree with your comments. You go to prison and get out, you get a chance to live life again. This guy however... He's definitely not someone I want anywhere remotely close to where I live.
Yeah the first guy was pretty bad. I think though that he felt they had so rock solid case against him that they didn't even need a confession. He just went with whatever came out of his mouth. Still probably not a good idea in any situation...well at least they pulled him off
I think he believed the suspect was a lot more emotionally unstable than he actually was, and would break under the pressure of guilt. Instead, the suspect does not feel guilt, and his displays of emotion are mostly either theatrical or self serving. Most of the murderers they get will be emotionally unstable, and have killed in the heat of the moment without planning. Applying pressure to these types will reinforce their scattered thoughts of guilt and shut down other thoughts of selt pitty or fear (of consequences). You hammer into them that their only way forward is to confess and you squash any other lines of thought. Since this suspect didn't feel any guilt, this method wasn't effective. His ego meant that he just got more argumentative and entrenched in his position when pressured.
Real phycos are much better at hideing it. They know what to say and act. He's an idiot phycopath. I say idiot because he thinks he's smart and its always the dumb ones who think their smart
Judy helped shape this person into what he is. divorced dysfunctional family coupled with ineffective parenting. Nobody deserves to be murdered but let's not absolve the parent's reponsibility in creating this monster.
I'm no expert, but I don't think cleverness/ i.q. is the issue here. More like state of emotional intelligence, mental health, hormones, genetic predisposition, experiential history etc.
Holy shit... the whole 3/4 of this video was super hard to go through because of how insuferable he is, but man, hearing him describe it at the end... the tone of his voice suddenly changing to delight and pride... so casual... I'm having shivers. 😰 To think he could ever get out??!! Terrifying.
Justice ⚖️ will be served weather in jail or when he gets out. I just worry about his brother snapping and ending up in jail over self-defense when his brother tries something with him and his family.
For a cop that supposedly had been "doing this for over 30 years," he did a terrible job with this interrogation. He let a 16 year old kid get under his skin.
yes because im sure all of your interrogations go swimmingly, its so easy for the layman to criticize a professional when they have zero experience with the topic
@@andrewprindiville119ahh there we go with the cop boot lickers coming out of the woodwork. since when does someone need to be an actual cop or be involved in police interrogations to make an entirely valid judgement about this cop’s performance? even the video narrator comments on how the cop seemed to be taking it personally and explained why the usual, rational tactic would be to build rapport with the suspect and not disagree with him to provoke him this way. this is so obvious, what makes you feel so righteously responsible to defend or justify this guy’s objectively shitty and hindering methods?
Everybody has a bad day at work sometimes. Sometimes nothing wants to work the way you want. You sleep it off and let someone else take over for the day
I don't blame the cop man. It's hard not to get emotional when you see what these people do. Especially first hand. That's gotta affect you in some ways. And nothing can really prepare you for how cold blooded some of these killers can be.
Ethan is either so into fight or flight, or neurologically atypical, he is having trouble verbalising his thoughts, and because the detective is not listening to him, theres countless missed opportunities to hear what hes got to say. His hostility is strong, and needs a skilled and experienced mental health professional to communicate more effectively. Horrible that these behaviours are permitted in the community without proper family support. We live in a society where the accountability to and dependence on the village has been largely broken down, and so many kids and families are being left by the wayside, until the cost to society of their actions then becomes far, far worse. That kid clearly needed to be in supported residential home. Very dangerous young man indeed. Full of hostility.
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*Thus far.. I have a feeling Ethan is doing "Roids"! And it would definitely explain his erratic behaviour and his anger!*
*I have seen "Roid Rage" and it looks a lot like this!*
Yep, please don't water down your content, I'd rather wait longer for what you keep producing
Thx this was my Halloween horror story. This will stay with me for days. Judy saved so many victims from being hurt. Obviously she shouldnt have been killed. What is the answer tho? Judy did everything rt, didnt she?🙄
I would NOT expect content of this quality to be released once a week, every week. Unless you're taking off several months a year, like with television. ❤❤
@@taraharvey8123Maybe but Ethan has zero empathy or compassion. Mixed with roids: YIKES🥺
This kid is like if a cartoon bully wandered into the real world. Truly unbelievable
Unbelievable as in I don’t believe a word of it…
Sigma grindset
Down to the appearance and mannerisms, bro. I'm honestly impressed.
Dude's austistic and thinks this is how you're supposed to act.
Been around for like remember
I’ve never seen anyone be equal parts disturbing and try hard cringe at the same time. Quite a unique collection of traits you got there kid.
Yes! Lol
This is quite a leap of relevancy to your original comment but this makes me question afterlife a lot. How can heaven be unconditional bliss where you can see what's happening on earth when you get murdered by your son who turned out to be a psychopath? Imagine holding your kid for the first time with the incredible feeling of loving your child, and then fast forward 15 years later. Genuine mindf*ck
Worst acting I've ever seen!
@@CQ-369He's right up there with top WWE Wrastlers
I had to force myself to finish the video, the cringe was so intense that I had to skip through some of his "acting". I truly hope he'll be ridiculed for this for the rest of his life.
This dude is just one small step above the "I'll unleash my bipolar" kid, mentally.
Yep. He reminds you of him huh 🤣
Lol. He did remind me of that kid!
Ha ha ha. I remember that. Never saw it unleashed tho 😁
Same
LMAO I was thinking the same thing!
This kid told a psychiatrist, a school counselor, and a teacher that he had these repetitive thoughts to kill, and they did nothing. Not to mention adopting as his idol a murderous psychopath.
sadly our laws don’t cover charging a person for what he MIGHT do - and we got rid of insane asylums years ago - we need them back ! they would be full
this kids extremely dangerous and crazy
Yeah, the mental health community dropped the ball on this one.
The psychiatrist has a duty to warn, so I don't know what happened there. The teacher is a mandatory reporter, so wtf? I believe that the counselor would be a mandatory reporter as well. So many people failed that poor woman. What a shame.
For people saying that no one can do anything until an actual crime is committed is not completely true. Orders of protection can be filed, mental health observations with psychiatric professionals can be arranged and her can be put on medication.
What’s sad is that this woman told multiple people that she was afraid of her own son and everyone, especially his father, thought she was being over dramatic. And eventually she lost her life. This kid needed help long before this happened. He should have been in residential treatment several years before the murder.
Is there residential treatment for psychopathy? For minors? Oh god! What an awful place to work. Can you imagine being a completely ignored counselor there?😱 I’m a counselor in a residential facility for criminal behavior and addiction. And I thought my clientele was rough…
Hindsight is 20/10
yes, I've seen kids as young as 3-10 years old in psychiatric facilities for violent behavior. its pretty sad@@philosopherwithin
Agree with original comment
@@philosopherwithinyep pavilions or behavior health hospital
Sad & pathetic how he thought his yelling and banging on a table would intimidate grown men because he used to intimidate & control his poor mother.
💯💯💯this.
This "kid" islike Alex from "The clockwork orange" muvie.
I bet he has seen this muvie and decided that this will be his prefered method to bullie people.
@@kubricksghost6058My father's "normal"
That's ehy this shit doesn't work on me.
But grew up with one of his kind was a freaking nightmare.
I am so glad that he is 6 feet under.
I bet she would tolerate it because of her own issues. Sadly it didn’t end well.
Much to late for that tantrum
@@katarinatibai8396wth is muvie
It's absolutely unforgiveable that the father ignored the mother when she said "I'm scared he will kill me in my sleep". Absolutley disgusting. A mother doesn't say that about her son lightly
I've said this about my son since he was 11 yrs old, he's now 25. He's been arrested 19x he's currently in prison. What do you think the father should have done? This is a real question because I've been so upset that his dad can just walk away and leave me with this kid that can kill me. But I also think what else can he do? It hasn't happened yet and it's either me, him or his wife. Idk. 🤷♀️
@@alexisjune892Keep your distance. Get cameras around your house, as best as you can afford. Get good locks, reinforced doors that make it harder to break in without letting you know something's happening. Get a firearms and learn how to use it, and keep it easily accessible to you, not unloaded and in a safe where you can't get it in time. Don't ever reach out to him first. If he contacts you, that's fine. If you ignore him when he reaches out, it may cause anger, but if you don't reach out yourself, he may get distracted with life and sort of forget about you for long periods. You'll never be 100% out of the risk zone, but there are things you can do to make it easier for yourself and harder for him. Good luck.
@@alexisjune892 A father has the duty to protect his wife, even against his own children. I heard this from a catholic dude. Like, if the children raise their voice and disrespect the mother, the father must intervene and protect the wife. I guess it is like a family hierarchy thing.
@@alexisjune892He is 25. He's gonna have to sort things out on his own...you can support from afar if at all. But be careful what personal information he has access to of yours, especially if you move. If he's too far gone and that unstable, it may be best to run away and never look back.
I would have to agree with you. Disgusting
Ethan mocking people for being influenced by books and movies while sitting there trying to talk and act like Patrick Bateman is wild.
literal projection
I remember Bateman calling people 'Holmes' a lot...
Worst projection ever. lol
At some points like the “think of him as a business” he follows up with “his book” and it honestly sounds like he believes Bateman is the one who wrote it.
@@thewhitelodgeryis that where the “homes” is from?! Sheesh…beyond cringy
Yeah that lack of self awareness there was lowkey hilarious
This individual should not be released from prison ever.
Yeah, out in 9 years, a fully confirmed murderous psychopath...
@@carlhunton9516he’s out in 9?? God help us.
You'd think the Supreme Court would make an exception for minors who are clearly dangerous psychopaths.
@@katattack907the only issue is that you can’t diagnose any child under the age of 18 with ASPD. The brain is still developing and it could always just boil down to a kid reacting to their environment. Kids that display ASPD traits can outgrow them, but you can never really tell until they’re adults.
@@jacobsirois2862 that's a good point about the existing diagnostic categories for minors. But this kid was what, 16? Do many teens actually grow out of their callous/antisocial behavior after that age (genuinely curious if you have any stats)? For that matter, if our brains keep developing until 25 or so, should 18 year olds even be held responsible as adults for their violent actions? And couldn't you make an argument that an adult with ASPD is also just reacting to their environment? Psychopathy is a neurodivergence that really intrigues me because its consequences can be extremely harmful and we really don't have effective tools or strategies for dealing with it yet.
Sad thing is that this kid thinks he’s a badass and that he’s intimidating. Kids got a rude awakening on the horizon.
Many years in the CLINK will fix that really quick😮
@@carolw8579One attempt at talking back like he’s hot shit and it’s over 💀
I disagree. This kid was born to be an enforcer for the aryan brotherhood. He's going to be just fine on the inside.
You could be right about that. He may have to be broken down a bit first so he behaves himself and takes orders without question.
And he's the star of "When the killer is cringe" 😂
So many people keep blaming Judy for not institutionalizing him but she didn’t even have the power to do that. Mental health professionals need to put in those requests and begin that process. Everyone failed her. Even the people in these comments that keep victim blaming her.
She needed to keep reporting him until it could not be ignored. She could have secured the house afainst him. He had a father to go to.
The harsh reality is that personality disorders like ASPD (psychopathy) are nearly impossible to treat, so the chance that any amount of treatment would have resulted in him not ultimately becoming a violent killer, is infinitesimal. He was probably going to become a killer eventually regardless of how much therapy he received.
His mother should be remembered as a victim who heroically sacrificed her life so that the monster who murdered her was unable to take the lives of numerous other victims. The fact is that his mother was the only person who he had even the tiniest emotional connection to in any way. Killing her facilitated a very small reactionary response in him, which resulted in a short pause of his spree as he walked to his father’s home. She is the ONLY victim that was able to temporarily curtail his plans to immediately go on a massive homicidal spree, which could have included the most vulnerable and innocent. If his first kill would have been anyone else, he would not have temporarily paused and many more people would have lost their lives in horrific ways. His mother’s sacrifice saved countless innocent victims that night and she should be honored for her sacrifice by every viewer.
@@emilycarter2492 When parents know they have a psychopath in the family, they should do everything in their power to let people know so at least they can be forewarned. In this case the mother was killed, in many cases it is hidden from everyone and innocent people are murdered.
Truly horrific for the poor woman. No thanks to his dad.
@@brrrrrrrrino Incorrect. The MH professionals have to be told there is even a problem first, they don't pluck their information out of the air. The family or caregiver or whoever should report/request help or whatever is needed and do so repeatedly until they are heeded. Things escalate unnoticed if the people at the centre do nothing, anc pass responsibility onto a third party to do something. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
If this kid would have uttered, "I have not reached my final form!", I would be be like, "There it is."
Bullying his mom--this little jerk is disgusting. Made her life hell and then he murdered her.
I was just thinking how sad to see your son killing you🕊❤️🕊❤️
Sad but should have been disbached at a young age , so sad
Can’t even imagine the torture this pos has put on her. Poor woman
What did she do or didn't do with her child since he was born? Why did he become this guy? What happened?
Yes that’s a really good question. I think parents should held accountable too , that many time he said i have this monster that need to kill.
1:50 told the psychiatrist he needs more medicine 💊
I think the horror movies can get somebodys brain in reallY bad ideas , if they are too deep in.
Those psycho in the fillms that he watched was his idols.
Poor woman spent hours walking or aimlessly digging her garden just to avoid her own son. She must have scared witless. I cant begin to imagine the anguish. My thoughts are all for her.
That's why you keep your demon spawn in check.
I don't know. You don't think there is anything he knows that could help this world end the senseless killing?
She’s Resting In Paradise without a doubt. I would NOT have him in my home if I were feeling that way. It’s too scary. If I felt the intuition that my child was a danger to me; I’d place him or her in a mental hospital. It’s not safe whatsoever! Never take things like this lightly and think that it’ll go away. It’ll only get worse. My 16 yr old daughter acted very crazy when she was 16. Disrespectful & not listening to anything I’d told her to do. Didn’t want to focus on education. Top priority for me. I didn’t believe in spanking like my former father did to me & step-mother. So I told her she wasn’t allowed to go out. Especially on school nights. She was VERY UPSET! She literally tried to beat me up! I NEVER laid a hand on my “parents” that is w/o a doubt disrespectful and I never talked back either. Millennials now; they seem to cross boundaries due to having no consequences for their actions. I had to hold her fists as she kicked me. Telling her to stop. 💔😢 it hurt! Couldn’t believe how kids are & how they could do this to their own parents. Anyhow, she’d grown up & stopped talking to her former best-friend who influenced her to do drugs, and take a flight to Northern Cali to meet a boy she’d never met w/ his parents! I told her not to go. She ignored me. The parents influenced her to sleep w/ him! No condoms, etc! I was astounded! He’d NEVER had a gf b4 so apparently she’d lost it to him & moved to Iowa. 💔😢 I told her you don’t know what life is like. You haven’t even lived life to the fullest & haven’t experienced life! You can’t just go w/ this guy & think this is love! He doesn’t even have a proper education & doesn’t have a job. His parents are the ones influencing you. Don’t do this. I’ve always been accurate w/ what I’ve said. I told her it won’t go well. Don’t do this. You’ll regret it. 😔💔 Life is what it is. Very devastating for parents that love their children so much but yet they get assaulted by their own children. Absolutely brutal. May she be at peace and her family and friends remember her always w/ a big heart & her caring nature! 🙏🕊️🤍
@@Mirabel1erI think he probably would have killed her sooner if she reported him to some kind of mental institution. Unfortunately no matter how bad the child's behavior you can't send them to a place like that against their will. I don't know what I would have done. Probably just pack up my stuff and go
most likely delusional mother@@Mirabel1er
Watching this kid defend himself is just like watching a 1980’s job training video. Like, if the police academy had a low budget interrogation training video…..
With all the bad actors , irrelevant statements, extreme dramatizations && voices 🫢
Lmao nailed it.
Acting level: p0rn
Knew the guy from high school... Big into the anime club... Real piece of work...
hahaha this just cracked me tf up
This kid's voice is absolutely grating, he's incredibly immature and mocking. Is he trying to be that obnoxious????? The detectives had zero control over this interrogation.
'Holmes!'
@@thewhitelodgeryMore like: Cluso - or should that be: "Clueless!" 😒
The idea that someone like this can still be released back into the public is fucking terrifying
2033...😮
These people are everywhere
@naeberli9120 skin color?? Lmao you're the smartest out of all the kindergarteners aren't ya? Was OJ White ? No? 😂 plenty of other examples
@@racheltarentino3314 About 1.2% of U.S. adult men and 0.3% to 0.7% of U.S. adult women are considered to have clinically significant levels of psychopathic traits. No, they’re not “everywhere”. There are between 0.5% and 5% of people in the U.S. may have Narcissistic traits. They may be who you’re referring to, but don’t be ignorantly spreading misinformation.
thank you know whos for twisting our legal system
The first thing the dad said when he was told his ex wife passed away was "Ethan did it, huh?" That was so amazing to look at how much they knew he was unstable and has been for a while. Has to be one of parents worst nightmares.
Especially when you don't try to get help for your son. What's wrong with people!
@@theresaohman7187exactly like I get that he knew his son & all but if you KNOW that much TELL SOMEONE!
@@theresaohman7187not much help for people like this. Therapy is about it and people like this guy will manipulate and charm the therapist every step of the way. There is no help or cure for psychopaths
Mother could have done it all. So her enabling and allowing the son to live with her and not kick him out. She is her own killer; really. Lmao
@@CyrusMcWin-bd3slYou sound fkd up in the head.
Mom asked father for help and he thought she was being dramatic. I hope that haunts him forever.
She could have called to have him admitted to a ward. She could have helped herself just sayin
Mom failed him too. Sucks she paid the price but your one job as a parent is to make sure your kids make it to adulthood without effing their futures.
But when you're feeling scared, confused and unsupported you question yourself. And you love your kids, you hope your love is enough to help them through anything.
Ethan himself requested to see his counselor every week and dad said every 2 weeks was cheaper!
Nice thought. But no one cared least of all the father.
Patrick Bateman would be so offended.
He would literally die of cringe
I agree!
He's so infuriating to listen to. I can't even imagine how much worse it was for his poor mother.
And this kid is in SEVERAL AP courses?
What state is this? He sounds dumb as shit.
Similar to the movie "Let's talk about Kevin"
Exactly!!!! And obnoxious narcissist sociopath/psychopath
Imagine that attitude on a daily everyday all day on repeat poor mom is not even strong enough to explain how I feel toward that poor lady. She seem so nice on top of it ;w;
Remind me of Sid from Toy Story
Not trying to victim blame but I’m not going to act like she was some poor put upon mother who had no hand in creating him. Many parents of divorce parent by guilt, not wanting to give their kids more discomfort than necessary. Kid learns he can leverage that guilt or even parents against each other. Not saying it’s easy to overcome for the parent but you have to recognize that you’re doing it. Had a friend whose brother was SA’d at a young age. Mom became more permissive and excused his behaviors as a result of the trauma. His sisters are both functional adults, holding good jobs. He is in and out of prison, has multiple kids by multiple women and broke into his last job.
“Why would I kill my mom? She bought me expensive things.” Disgusting. I lost my mom when I was young and I can’t imagine that being the thing I remember or brag about her for. Smh
What's wrong with being incredibly kind and generous and being remembered for such 🤔 there's nothing disgusting about that. Now this pos on the other hand is psychopathic maniac.
sorry for your loss, im sure watching shit like this must make ur blood fucking boil
@@boooooof731 Thank you and yes it does.
Same for me.
My dad died and this grown ass man saying this pisses me off.
I hope you’re doing ok
( he died due to Covid 19 when I was 8 )
@@Haruspell I’m sorry for your loss. Just remember to always keep your guard up. People like us who lose parents at a young age can be even more susceptible to addiction later in life and it can get when you least expect it. Luckily I was able to get clean and turn my life around but many of my friends weren’t so fortunate. I’m rooting for you. Just stay strong.
A life sentence for murder should not be considered to be "cruel and unusual" punishment. The thought that this monster will be eligible for parole in 10 yrs is frightening. The legislators are really screwed up.
Insane that people are doing time for drug deals. Prison should not be a “penalty.” It should be to keep the rest of us safe. This man is clearly not safe.
The system is more worried about controlling illegal finances than keeping citizens safe, messed up @@deannausernametaken
Fortunately, im pretty sure that judges can make an exception for specific heinous crimes and still give life without parole sentences to minors of certain ages.
Legislators commit crimes just as horrific as this., this boy wasn't born this way. This was learned behavior during the developmental stage of puberty via his exposure to inappropriate entertainment and literature.
Lack of parental guidance and proper discipline I'm sure played a role in his character building.
Parents need to be far more diligent in what they expose their children to and allow their children to come Into agreement and interest with.
@@AT-sf1db Idk how much of nurture is cause for this boys nature, he didn't show any remorse for doing something that most normal people would be in hysterics about
*_Do NOT blame poor Judy. She had the bad luck of getting a psychopatic child. Most psychopaths are born, not made. There is some genetics involved. I feel so bad for her._*
*Rest in eternal peace, Judy.* 🕯
I hope they deny his parole.. forever.. he should never be allowed out of prison.
He gets out in 33 even without parole...you can thank a leftist
can you imagine how this kid treated his mother after seeing how he acts with the cops ? scary, no doubt she was afraid .
If you failed this badly as a parent and you're afraid of your child you probably shouldn't wait around for them to kill you, Maybe seek help or send them away to a place that can be more of a success than you.
@eh-i1841 that sounds the most safe, and makes sense in the spirit of safety, but as a minor, she'd be charged with abandonment and neglect. Parents don't have a lot of options with things like this. Police also have their hands tied often in domestic violence situations and say to take it to civil court. I can't even imagine having to have to deal with this. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
@@mr__southern1492don't victim shame this woman.
@@haretyper4954Why?
@@haretyper4954I don't see that as victim shaming. It's spreading awareness, so as to educate others who may be dealing with personality disordered children. Dialogue is necessary in order for action to be taken, rather than shaming someone under the ironic guise of them being the one causing unwarranted shame.
Detective: "I'm saying you killed your mother"
Ethan: "Okay."
Detective: "I'm saying you like 50 Cent"
Ethan: "MOTHER FUCKING WHAT YOU JUST SAY?!"
That's that autistic roid rage "I NEED VBUCKS MOM" "I don't need deodorant" type shit
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Man. You do your best to raise your children. With no suspicions as to them ever wanting to end your life. What a crazy story here. People like this deserve that cell and to never walk amongst normal people again.
Dear God! How in the hell did that first detective last 30 yrs with his department? WORST interrogation tactics EVER!
After binge watching this channel for the past two weeks I thought maybe he was just unseasoned and didn't have a lot of experience. When he said he's been doing this for 30 years, I balked. 😮
Because he's one of those old career boomer man's man kinda guys.
"well, I mean.. Frank HAS been with the department for a decade, where do we put him..? Vice? Narcotics? He NEVER missed work..."
Next it's like "well, shit... Frank is up for a review, but he's really holding back the newer guys on narcotics, he calls Marijuana dope, and couldn't spot anything else right in front of him... Like they had meth and crack on the table and he mentioned it was all clear except drywall on a scale... But it was crack... Well.. Fuck it... Put him on homicide, it's been, what... 5 years since we had one of them?
Yeah.. Homicide.. Then just let him coast until retirement.. Still never missed work but I think he's drinking on the job now too... "
White boomer privilege
@@M.ds87well I can tell what your favorite class was 😅 shit was funny also
EXXXACTLY!
I’m utterly speechless 😶 😮
33:39 what appears to be happening is that the detective is completely incompetent and is doing everything to destroy any rapport with this sick guy, instead of trying to get on the same side with him to get him talking!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an incompetent lackadaisical interview of a suspect in my life.
I can barely take this kid a minute. I can’t comprehend how anyone could live with him. I feel so terrible for his mom. I hope she has peace now.
he bullied her in every way, yet had the nerve to make fun of her dealing with depression. what an absolute joke of a kid
Allowing your child to bully you is beyond insane!!! It was her job to teach him how to act or give him the help she clearly knew he was desperately in need of. How is it so hard to take your child to a therapist or psychiatrist? Not acting on his terrible behavior is what led to her demise
Right!? I was a troubled kid, constantly getting suspended time and time again because I refused to be bullied or tested by the other kids. I’ll tell you for sure that the most terrifying thing to me was when I would get home after getting into trouble 😂 My Mom didn’t have any time for the nonsense and games and she didn’t hesitate to discipline us when it was necessary. I knew not to talk back my parents, or be disrespectful to teachers/my elders. I’m grateful that I grew up that way especially when you see stories like this one.☝️
@zodiaccentral8908 yeah but come on, it's different for women...They get coddled so much its disgusting.
@@PandaCheeks I can’t speak for other women/girls, but I most certainly was not coddled in any kind of way by my parents. My parents were crazy strict and my brothers had a lot more freedom than the girls did.
@@zodiaccentral8908I think that’s what they mean, some parents think that their daughters are helpless so they don’t give them any responsibilities or freedoms. My parents shamed into getting a job at 16 while I was struggling greatly with school and anxiety and depression, meanwhile my sister had everything paid for immediately and didn’t work half as much as me.
Letting him loose will be a big mistake.
I don’t understand the father, when his son got nasty at his house he returned him to the scared mother living by herself. I guess out of sight out of mind, shame on him.
indeed
Indeed! She said she was scared of him. Just sad
Useless father syndrome, IMO.
Very common 😢
You don't need to be a psychologist to know this kid is an absolute nutcase even before he confessed. Bless his mom RIP.
true, but he did ask for help, and no one gave it to him. gave plenty of red flags that the parents friends and psychiatrist ignored. He doesn't have feelings and was most likely born that way (brain abnormality), so it was inevitable he would eventually act out. I don't believe he should be free in society, but they should have acted sooner.
@@Angen77he clearly has a capacity for anger. And not all people that lack emotion act out - that‘s quite a stretch. I’d guess a large percentage of violent crimes are actually caused by uncontrolled emotions.
Out of all these real life interrogation videos, which i've seen quite a few of...this is one of the sickest for sure. Not as bad as child killers but pretty bad still. Don't really care much about his stupid antics and Bateman impersonations, but the thrill and pride he clearly felt afterwards and total lack of remorse were pretty unsettling. He clearly has feelings, strong ones, but only for himself. Should never let him out in my opinion, he will do it again
You said this kid got no help, then mention a psychiatrist & a detective asked for permission to speak to his therapist. Sounds like he got plenty of help. @Angen77
@@andromeda3447 For people with anti social personality disorder or psychopathy anger is one of the only emotions they can actually experience.
I can't help but feel like lots of people in Judy's life failed her. They should have pushed harder to get her out of that situation. I've known some "overdramatic" people in my life and none have ever claimed they were afraid someone was going to kill them. That's a very specific fear no one should shrug off.
Judy had choices and she chose to let her son live with her despite her extreme fear.
Judy failed herself.
Ethan should have been committed to a juvenile psyche ward long ago.
Even with meds and therapy, these mentally ill people remain a danger to society and themself.
The shrink, the dad, and the school Ethan went to, all failed.
Look,,, you cannot help others see the light sometimes,,, she failed by spoiliing him and not correcting him when he was young. She created her own monster,,, I know at least 3 women that did the same thing,,, all divorced and all weak willed..
@@beverlybalius9303really!? Victim shaming! You have zero clue about how she raised him.
You reap what you sow.
@@robinmccoy4671 Zero clue? Look at the DVD's, the titles? ZERO clue!! lol
Oh man. My nephew started to behave exactly like this toddler here. My nephew is 11 now but his extreme tirades began in 2020 when my father died. He is truly a terribly difficult child to be around and I find him terrifying. I will never leave him alone with my 2 year old son and I lose sleep some nights because I worry so much that he’s going to hurt my sister and brother in law one day. He has been admitted to the mental institution for children 2 times this year. No matter the countless thousands that have been spent on every kind of therapy you can imagine, medication & lifestyle changes my nephew just stays the same way.
He’s wired wrong .. I’m so sorry to hear that. He’s was born with some sort of brain disorder
I’m sorry you have to go through this, I’m sure it’s hard to think of your family like this hopefully things get better.
Sometimes this is just how people are. Could have been born with atypical neurology or it could have been under the surface and triggered by an event. And short of practically tranquillizing them, there’s a lot who just don’t respond to medication we currently have.
I’m sorry you’re going through this and hope he is able to get effective help.
He is possessed. That is what it is.
@@BiomedicalDesignsyou don’t need to spread that bullshit right now pal. An exorcism isn’t going to fix a naturally rotten child. Almost nothing CAN fix people like that
Why the hell would they let someone like this back out into society? His next victim will be their fault. Unbelievable
I agree our system is so broken.
Was thinking the same thing.
2033 free. You must be kidding me.
Australia 💕 Christina
The way he acts, he won't make it out of prison
One word: Liberals
These are the same people who fight daily to take the right to protect ourselves and our families away. I have been shocked at the monsters the judicial system has let out repeatedly over the last few years especially.
I had siblings like this. Crazy violent stuff would happen and parents would always get mad at me for wanting to call the police. Brother used to run around screaming and banging on the door with a shot gun while i would hide behind it with my little niece and nephew. Sometimes i use to just leave the house with the kids until they left or things calmed down. It was horrible. I feel bad for that mother. You feel helpless physically and emotionally. You dont want to believe your baby turned into a monster.
Context-Brother didn't normally act that way but was addicted to meth and Xanax and would often lose his mind. They were eventually kicked out and still haven't straightened out their lives 5 years later. Living like that was traumatizing. You never know when something bad will happen. Now I refuse to ever be put in situations like that again. It doesn't matter if we are family. Sadly that mom found out too late.
@@nq6508comparing a drug addict dealing with drug induced psychosis to a psychopath who murdered his mom is pretty harsh. Check yourself
thank u for sharing yr story, 2024 blessings & healing to u and family!
I'm sorry you had to endure the crazy but I'm glad you survived. May 2024 bring you peace of mind and many, many more years of peace.❤
Damn can't imagine how your niece and nephew feel, but you were there for them, you did good
Thinking about this woman's last moments is so disturbing and sad. You know that the last thing she saw was her son killing her, and that must have been so terrifying, confusing and heartbreaking.
She was asleep though, thank God
@@cynthianewton3987 She could had woken up due to the pain, at least momentarily!
i had an ex seriously try to hurt me, if not kill me, and i’ll never forget the feeling of betrayal & sheer terror realizing that someone i loved so much & would do almost anything for would want to hurt me like that. i absolutely cannot imagine realizing that your own son was going to kill you. hopefully there is peace and full understanding in the afterlife, hopefully there is a fulfilling answer as to why
Sad thing is she bought him in the world and he sadly took her out
Thinking about her last weeks, months… Poor woman! He’s such an aggressive Bully.
Least calculated psychopath I've ever seen
hes just a wanna-be
By far one of the most heinous and callous EWU cases I've ever seen. This kid should *NEVER* be paroled.
I thought the same. I've seen so many of these and this kid sickens me more than any other interrogation. He thinks he's making a movie.
I agree. This kid is literally evil. He doesn't deserve to see the light of day outside of prison or in an institution. The thought of him being among society truly frightens me.
RIP to his mother.
He's no longer a kid now and I think he should be on the death row... Having no feelings for killing the person who brought him into this world... it's really sad how he was being influenced mentally by movies and books.
RIP to his mother, Judy.
@@momsdiva71why? Probably his mom was a bitch.
He certainly will kill again if released
This video shows how much difference there is between an excellent interrogator and an interrogator that should be taking notes.
I hope his sphincter is destroyed in prison every day for the next 60 years.
Well said!
my exact thoughts. it was more cringe-worthy then watching and listening to Ethan. Hopefully the video and its analysis can be used for future training.
It seems he's wanting to retire and he doesn't care anymore.
@@Epic_C It's clear that he should. He doesn't listen, doesn't let the suspect "bond" over the thing he was passionate about, finally gets him talking then interrupts him repeatedly, has no idea how to drive an interrogation, eesh. Time to retire, dude.
This guy is the worst liar I have seen in a long time! I mean yes, he is guilty as all hell, but even though the detective skipped quite a few commonly used steps in interrogations, this kid didn't stand a chance! He reminds me of that "Don't make me break out the bi-polar" guy that helped that Ellie girl in the murder of her father.
Yes I agree entirely....
He totally reminds me of the bipolar guy too!
Oh man that guy was a goofball. Wasn't his name like Russell or something?
Agreed. However well-read he was and no matter his good grades, the way he tried to explain away the obvious clues of his guilt along with the silly illogical story of this 'other killer' was like listening to a pre-schooler explain how the cookies were gone from the jar.
He graduated from the amber heard school of acting 😂.
Ethan : I DID NOT DO IT!
Cop: I can promise you your own cell
Ethan:... ya I guess I did it 🤷♂️
He told so many people even his Psychiatrist that he needed to be placed in a mental health facility. Adults need to hear and listen to the kids!
Many times falls on deaf ears.
My experience has been that many mental health professionals are bad at helping with things, pertaining to autism. I could imagine that it could be the same for ASPD. A lot of them never seek help. So less clinicians will be likely to have a germane skill set. Seeing any sort of specialist can be a huge PITA. Its not like we have a particularly functional health care system at all.
So does the mental health professionals
The US does nothing. All they do is wrote prescription after prescription. This is why the crime rate is so high. Lots of crazies walking around with drugs in their system, throwing off the brain chemistry even more.
i don't think ethan realises how illogical it is for a random intruder to say "hey can you stab your own mother once for me" and after they leave, you go "well, better wash this off"
Yeah, along with "The killer left me alone in the garage and shut the door to the house, but instead of escaping out through the garage, I knocked on the door and waited for the OK to go back inside with the armed murderous intruder." Like, a 5 year old might tell a more believable story than this.
Well, thank God he's a dumb ass, get him locked away
It’s pretty obvious that this kid is an idiot. He’s trying so hard to be this manipulative killer but he’s so stupid that he doesn’t come even remotely close to pulling it off.
Teenagers are not logical
@@calgaryhockey6991because in his mind, he HAD to be involved, had to put his mark on her while ALSO trying to maintain being the victim story … I’m with someone like this and the amount of illogical things that come out of his mouth ALMOST make you want to ALMOST feel bad for them having such a confusing, uncontrollable mental state. It’d be a terrible existence, truly.
I just want to say that I love how accurate this channel is regarding diagnoses.
So many people throw around the term “psychopath” and “antisocial” in incorrect ways and never talk about Conduct Disorder. Fantastic job, EWU!
Conduct Disorder is just psychiatrists saying we can't diagnose them with psychopathy or ASPD yet because they're too young.
What should Judy have done to survive Ethan. She got him mental health. Yet no cure for lack of empathy & compassion. I believe Judy being killed by Ethan saved so many more victims. He has smarts to learn how to kill like his role models.
@@hoebywan some kids “outgrow” conduct disorder or they have a different personality disorder that cant be distinguished at their age/maturity…but ultimately yes😂
@@vivian_joan "some kids “outgrow” conduct disorder" could also mean they were misdiagnosed and were autistic or similar.
@@hoebywan yeah. Like with kids it is so hard to truly diagnose/distinguish certain disorders (i.e. ODD vs DMDD vs conduct disorder) because you cant really see what the kid would do on their own (in some cases) if that makes sense. Like would they do worse things if their parents aren’t around? If they could drive on their own? Etc. 😬
Edit: That’s why i added the quotes😂
It's so fascinating that someone as cringe and lame as this can be a murderer. It's insane. I mean he literally sounds like he's trying to act like someone in a TV show
That’s what I’m thinking too! He so cringe it’s laughable
I love how he says "people who get influenced are dumb" and then a few moments later says i can change into any character i want its easy.
He read those books because he was looking for people who thought the way he did
@@mayj257 and pretty much changed into Bateman for no reason? He wasn't looking, he was influenced the same way. He thought American Psycho is cool, like "sigmas" do now xd
Yes, and how these two things are related? He meant he can disguise into any character to manipulate and influence others.
@@Bleacher22 pretending to be someone, to the point theyre copying even their morning routine, which isnt even to manipulate anyone means you are influenced by them, they have influenced his actions. if anything, hes the most influenced person ive ever seen and its hilarious that he tried claiming that he cant be influenced.
If he's talking like that to the cops just imagine how he was with his mom
"All these kids are freaking whacked out on some kind of medication" You must have missed that little tid bit. His behavior sounds exactly like the side effects pamphlet for most psychiatric medications.
@@thearmy88ify who says commenter missed anything? Why be rude like that?
@@nunyabusiness2945cause it's the internet
idk why but I laughed way to hard at this comment @PolPot-ef1qq
@@thearmy88ify NO it's called having a conduct disorder this display is nothing the anger as stated in the video was all farce had he not been medicated you would have really seen some rage and I'm guessing depending on how well he learned coping mechanisms maybe a go at the crappy investigator cop.
The last detective who interviewed him has nerves of steel to listen to this absolute psycho describe in chilling detail how he murdered his mother. Much respect for this officer.
What can he do.
Hot coffee???😮🎉😢
Nerves of steel for sitting at a table in front of a teenager? C'mon now..
He probably should be locked up too
And to just calmly stare right at him when he aggressively bangs the table. He could very well have jumped on the cop with that temper but the cop didn't even flinch and stayed up close and personal.
Too bad this guy didn't discover Sonic the Hedgehog instead.
Yes, I was married to a psychopath. When we were dating, he amazed me one time by talking to someone about a subject I didn't know he knew. So, I complimented him on all his knowledge. He told me, "When I was young, I began learning a little about every topic, so I could talk to anyone to get them to trust me." AHHHH- I should have ran!
Sorry you went through that. Saying you learn a bit of everything so you can talk to everyone isn't really bad, but doing it so they can "trust" you is something else all together
I am so sorry you had to deal with that.
My son ex displays traits of psychopathy, BPDand bipolar disorder. She literally is dangerous yet always the victim. Watching this video reminds me of her. Im freaked out
@@cheriedavies6116our son is the same way, he would hit us for not getting his way, or not buying him what he wanted or for no reason at all. Then he would explain why it was my fault he hit me, then he’d say he’d tell his teachers to call CPS because I hit him (never once laid a hand on him or even spanked him).
I told him that was fine, I had shut off his cell phone for misbehavior and I just told him I could use the vacation and his cell phone would have to stay off permanently then because I couldn’t work to pay his cell phone bill if I’m in jail for child abuse, and if he ended up in foster care they wouldn’t get him a cell phone either. So his only shot at getting the phone turned back on was to straighten up and stop hitting me.
The look he gave me, I thought he’d kill me then, but then he knew he wouldn’t get a cell phone in juvenile detention. That cell phone was the only thing I ever saw him “care” about.
It's that one they say which us trully odd and ugly yet we disregard it.
It's astounding that he can sit there and say that people who base their crimes on movies are unintelligent and uncreative, and not realize that's exactly what he's done. Seems like a good indication that he's not only evil, but quite literally incapable of any form of self reflection.
He's making the bricks in my wall look like intellectually stimulating company.
@@lanahaxerhe thinks he did but instead the comment hit it spot on
@@lanahaxer I don't think he possesses the level of self awareness required for something like that. These traits and impulses were always inside of him, he used Bateman's character as validation and justification to act this way. It was his prime example of what to strive to be as a result of overcompensation for his lack of identity and purpose. He wanted to feel special and different and would hurt and manipulate anybody to achieve this. He so badly wants to live up to this image of himself that he created in his mind that he isn't thinking very hard past that point.
I don't think he even read any of those books he bullied his mom into buying for him. They're just more cosplay props for him to live out his mentally ill fantasy of parroting American Psycho.
@@spookyf1nger979considering he thinks patrick bateman is real and actually successful in real life proves he’s not self aware
he’s a perfect example of someone who think they’re different than the rest not realizing he’s trying his hardest to be someone else
@@lanahaxeri think he said it because he’s dumb af 😂
Cringe is appropiate but an understatement. This had atomic levels of second hand embarrassment.
😂😂Absolutely!
YES!!! DEFINITELY
So true lol this is the lamest version of Patrick Bateman of all time
@@erin6015 Right? Probably can't even see the movie now with out being like ''Ethan Windom thinks he's like this guy...'' in my own head and turn it off.
Total douche-chills this entire interview
So the father just sat back and let him intimidate and abuse his mother? What a great man.
Sad that not only had the mom said she was scared of him,but he himself told people including his doctor what he was feeling and asked to be locked up. Why did they not listen?
Because most people do not care about what happens to girls and women. We are hated and they would not dare punish a boy or a man. That is why most males get away with anything and women who fight back, are severely punished or killed. We see it it every day around the world. Everyone will know a man raped a 6yr old, but at most he'll get 4months in jail. Yet when a woman kills a known rapist in self defense, she gets the book thrown at her or is murdered by other men in retaliation, bec how dare a woman fight back?
Well at least he is locked up now and I pray he will never get out.
@@marisamartin3664well he's up for parole in 2033.
@marisamartin3664 well he get parole and will be out in 10 yrs
Yeah, plenty of warning. But for some reason, many people don’t believe in “preventative” treatment. He could’ve been committed, studied, MAYBE even helped, with no victims involved. Part of the problem is that we don’t really have any good treatment for psychopathy. We barely know exactly what’s causing it in the brain, much less how to treat it.
One of the interview notes onscreen said that Ethan himself thought he was “this way” because he got hit in the head with a baseball, which is honestly very plausible. I’m not saying he should be free, but perhaps he could be “fixed”, if we knew more about the brain. The medical field is still struggling with complex medical concerns. It’s tragic for everyone.
Dayum ...This kid is a nightmare. Thanks so much for sharing, can't believe humans like this even exist.
Have you watched the news lately? The world is filled with awful Humans.
It's a shame we don't regard politicians sending people to war the same way.
@@cutup6166 agree but I'm still in disbelief.
@@thr0w407 yup. And how vets are treated when back home... So sad
Nicocado Is being a jerk.....
This man never stops talking! Like a hyperactive, manic toddler….
The most frightening thing about this whole video is that this psychopath is going to be back out on the streets in as little as 10 years. Thanks for bringing this to us, EWU!!!!
I doubt he will actually get parole ever.
I’m sure someone with his kind of agreeable personality will do well at his parole hearing. Besides this is not the kind of dude that can do his bid and keep his head down for 10 years.
@@realrebelli0nif he didn’t he be the next serial killer who ever gave that sentence is dummy he’s a serial killer lover
@@defaultname7685he was still a minor though. By 2033 he might be more mature in his tactics after learning from his mistakes in this interrogation. He has an obsession with learning to manipulate people. He will modify his strategy for sure. He's probably in his cell practicing how to fake cry as I type this lol.
Vote RED or you may wind up dead...
It’s so sad that this mother cried for help and none listened. I can’t imagine the fear this woman lived with every day knowing what was coming. This child should have been committed years before this happened. Rest peacefully Judy.
It happens all the the time in the US. there's no significant recourse for families in this position.
@@potatopirate5557could they relinquish their parental rights by giving their child to the state? Committing them?
@@GlitterC8k expand that idea... do you really think the best ineterests of the kid are going to be the reason for this idea you suggest?
or don't you think a bad parent is just gonna "give up" and force an innocent child into that system just because the parent is a selfish bastard?
your intention is great and amazing to consider for everybody involved... but that's not how these things get used. only innocents get put through them. it took forever for americans to realise the circular logic with the prison system. get arrested for minor infraction, get thrown in jail falsely... months, maybe a year goes by, and that innocent, doesn't appreciate what they got jailed for, they distrust the law enforcement and judges, then they live as they want, knowing full well that being in jail is just a partial stay before they're thrown away again. only to get caught doing other shit and back they go.
sure. SOME people deserve it and it helps them for rehab into society, but innocents, they revile the system for what happened to them and, justly, they become the criminals and animals society told them they are.
keep your intentions and integrity. figure out a real solution. you wrote a really short version of your thoughts. but "as is" that will only harm innocents and benefit bastards.
This is like my mum with my sister….we’ve all cried out for help , but the authorities only see the act she puts on to manipulate them. I worry that one day she might snap and murder my mum. Social aren’t bothered , I’ve warned them if anything happens they will be held over their failings. So it’s not just America these people are all over the world.
commited???
This one gives me chills. I had an ex who was violent and obsessed with Patrick Bateman. He talked just like this kid when he would get mad, it’s uncanny. The scoffing, laughing, attempt to talk down. Even got locked up for trying to strangle me during a fight. After everything I’ve learned from this channel it truly makes me wonder if he’s a budding killer. Glad I got out.
Well done Jenna, you are strong.❤
*insert cringe sigma music here*
I have had some nutty exes too, and yeah a strangler. He got out on bail before I could even get a ride back to my parents' house, so I could not safely talk to the DA. Glad you got out too.
did you date my ex too ?! sorry you went through that love . 💗
@@foxlimbs7167 lol I know right, all these dudes thinking they're so badass, when everyone else is rolling their eyes. I've known a few of them, they are the most sensitive flowers you've ever met! Can't take a single slight to their ego. They absolutely lose their shit if you laugh at them
Why does the detective make so so many mistakes when he's such a veteran? Happy they got this kid, but wow that was embarrassing for the detective.
I’m 45 minutes into watching this. That first detective was 100% doing everything incorrectly. According to almost all of the 1000’s of these types of videos that I have watched. Goodness Me. What a sad thing. The detective could have avoided wasting precious time, by instead of taking literally everything personally, he could have approached Ethan with a more ‘understanding & positive manner’ albeit a means to an end. Gee Whizz
Some people shouldn't be homicide detectives...
In his defense he allowed the other detective to set up a better approach and actually get the confession.
We all know psychopaths are dangerous, but a lot of people also tend to think that psychopaths are highly intelligent masterminds.
Then there's Ethan, proving the complete opposite.
Dangerous? Absolutely.
Intelligent? Let me spell it out for Ethan: N O.
Anyone else lose several brain cells just listening to him talk?
That's because being impulsive lying and being a manipulator are merely symptoms of psychopathic behavior. Not every symptom is present, so of course you will find people with this disorder who aren't able to accomplish these traits.
He seems to be on the spectrum IMO. ASD individuals are often very intelligent but have focused intense interests that are often obsessive. Interrupting patterns or the focus of their interest can result in massive meltdowns. Just as with anyone, this doesn't make them dangerous, but if one's obsession is paychopaths and role playing them one very well can be. Since social emotional skills are challenging for ASD individuals, role playing gives them a script that they know and can feel comfortable acting in, whereas general societal interaction can feel uncomfortable due to missing social cues and social mores, etc. That's my hypothesis on this guy.,
@@Aim4aCreativeLife I worked with people on the spectrum for 7 years and I totally agree and came to the same conclusion.
The leg rubbing could be a for of ASD stimming.
It's that detective that's blowing my mind
He's like
Tell me why you did it
And keeps badgering away at a 16 yr old.
Anyone that has ever had a son at that age knows it just makes um mad and they bull up I would have approached that young man way differently
It' just made me angry.
The behavior of Ethan is genuinely disturbing. I am glad you exposed this case and made it available to us, thanks EWU for another great documentary.
Yeah, what a sick f-ck...
His poor mother 😔
In the last quarter, he's totally losing it. He can't find simple words, making weird faces and moving in abnormal ways....he's totally nuts. I feel SO bad for his mom, her ex husband and ESPECIALLY her older son completely failed her.
I think he’s slow and got his mannerisms and social skills from cartoons and memes😭 it’s giving Chris Chan
It's totally pathetically sad that his mother had to die for his evil mind to come to show to the right people so he could be put away for the rest of his life where he can't hurt anybody but himself unless he attacks other inmates , and I can totally see him being that kind of person
@@shimmershine6902 he got his mannerisms from that stupid movie he loves with that Looney serial killer, he talks like him moves like him and laughs like him at people at the weirdest times
I don’t know how many more warning signs Ethan could have given. Everyone knew. The school, his family, family friends. Seems like no one cared enough about Judy to do anything. Not to minimise what Ethan did but she didn’t die because her son is a homicidal psychopath, she died because no one cared enough about her.
She knew how dangerous he was, question is, why didn’t she have him committed to a mental facility. He is under 18, so she could have committed him. Not to say taking the chance that he would hurt her or a different innocent person. The father just didn’t care about the family he left to do anything.
Very good point. And so sad.
Sad😢
@@myturn9431idk if it's thr same everywhere....but here if you 302 someone and have the committed., they'll only hold them for 48 hours unless they seem dangerous or suicidal, and 9 times out of 10, they can lie their way out of it. I've been through it countless times with my sister. So the mother was probably so scared to lock him up knowing he'd be out in a couple days it's sad how screwed up the whole mental health system is.
People don't care, because it is not them
the fact that this kid genuinely believes he's the smartest person in the world despite barely being able to get out a coherent sentence, or go 10 seconds without a random outburst is truly embarrassing.
Yes, he appears unaware that there can be major differences between IQ intelligence and emotional intelligence. And that people lacking emotional intelligence are not usually successful. Maybe he really is delusional enough to think he can read and manipulate others well enough to be master of everything! At 16, he has no idea yet how much he doesnt know yet!😢.
Maybe he was just trying to be cool like the cool character in American Psycho.. why do people join the military to kill innocent little children in the Middle East .. why do people smoke .. why do people disfigure their bodies with tattoos ..why do people watch sports (adults play with a ball)... Why do people speed ..why do people drive loud vehicles... to feel cool and manly ..😊 because they are GENIUSES .. so this is scientific evidence that this kid is cool, manly AND genius 😊
It is absolutely frightening to think that this person will potentially be roaming the streets in a decade.
@@chillingwithshillamhe can get out in 2033 literally in a decade he could be free. That’s not right he should have life all murders should get life no matter the age of them
No,throw away the key
@@chillingwithshillam did you not read the end part were it said he had another sentencing in 2019 and was giving 26 years and he’s already served 16 of them the guy in the video literally said he can be eligible for parole in 2033 maybe try watch the whole of the video next time before you think you know everything
@@chillingwithshillam we defo are on the same side he shouldn’t be released
He’s harmless. Don’t worry. His biggest problem in life was his mom and he took care of it.
Imagine focusing your entire life around a character you didn't realise was a parody.
I mean he states early on that he knows that.
@@turkeyman631 Early on is after he committed the murder, though.
He was just looking for an excuse. He's a hideous parody of a human.
And then saying that you're too smart to be influenced by media
American & the World's children had this crap shoved down their throats most of their young lives and it was a forever 'show me more ' so thanks to supposedly common sense lawmakers this is the result. Will they fix it??
The second-hand embarrassment watching this kid pretend he's a movie character is so intense.
These police officers/detectives are major cringe as well. I’ve watched a ton of interrogations and these guys are terrible. (It pains me to be from Boise)
Almost had to turn it off so many times
@@SommarDodge The last officer is the best one in the entire video tf are you on about?
I had to skip through most of this one
Looks like Autism and ASPD to me. Maybe some narcissistic traits thrown in.
It's really satisfying how he catastrophically misinterprets American Psycho, both the book and the movie. Total jabroni.
He should NEVER get parole! Although I’m in the UK and think that life with out parole sentences should not be applied to juveniles, there are some cases (like this one) where parole could never be deemed safe.
I agree with you that many times juveniles shouldn’t be sentenced to life without parole. They changed that here in America too but some teens still receive it.
With all that said, how do you feel about your justice system there? I watch lots of true crime and I’ve noticed rapists, murderers and child predators get much lighter sentences there than they typically would here. It happens here as well but doesn’t seem to be nearly as often. Are people in the UK frustrated with this at all?
That would mean more than half of ghetto would be in jail. With no parole.
She is just his first victim.
@@littleme3597not true
I’m nowhere near there and I’m afraid after seeing this. Folks will rue the day they let him out.
It’s like interrogating a well spoken toddler.
yup all NPDS and ASPDS are... They are stuck at the age they turned ''dark triad'' and brains underdeveloped. it's also sad.
I think he’s developmentally immature.
It makes about as much sense.
thats essentially what psychopaths are: gigantic toddlers with smarts. they're individuals whose brains, emotionally, didnt develop past the infant-early toddler stage. they're stuck emotionally in the toddler/infant stage. they are toddlers in adult shells with adult strength and adult smarts. scary.
@@ivandragokrizanac9429 I’m sorry but that’s just not true. Ppl with ASPD definitely developed past infant toddler development lol or they wouldn’t be able to speak and calculate and sometimes have good social skills. You can be very developmentally advanced or have an intellectual disability with ASPD it’s a spectrum like most mental disorders/neurotypes
My ex was diagnosed bi-polar schizophrenic with accute delusions. This kid reminds me of him so much in the way he talks. Even down to the squeaky tone of voice. My ex also used to be heavily influenced by media. At one point he swore he was Keyser Soze from the usual suspects. He also thought he was superior and more intelligent than most people. He also would switch is tone of voice and how he talked on the drop of a hat. This whole interview gave me the chills
Ironically he also brutally killed his mother a few years after I broke up with him. He was in his 40s. He was never prosecuted because he decided to take his own life before anyone even found out what had happened.
This kid honestly scares me and I hope he never sees the light of day I wouldn't doubt if he did it again
I’m glad you got away from him because you were absolutely in danger.
Thats.. terrifying. I'm just happy you got out of that situation.
I was actually numb when I heard about what he had done. I truly feel like I dodged a bullet. To this day, I thank God I got out of that situation before he completely went off the deep end
You should probably research this topic more.
Maybe a silver lining is that you won’t miss any more red flags now that you’ve seen them all
He sounds like a baby trying to talk like a gangster.
What a strange, strange kid. It’s like he’s a 6 year old trying to act like a big bad gangster. The most shocking part of this whole video is the part where it says he did great in school and was in the top classes and AP classes. 🤷🏻♀️ He just seems so immature and like he wouldn’t even sit through a class. I can’t blame the detectives for being irritated with him honestly, he’s so incredibly obnoxious it was hard to even watch this, let alone try to speak to him. 😬
I was thinking the same thing, I was in advanced English classes throughout high school, he just didn't come across as someone who would be in such a class, but who knows 🤷♀️
He was mentally I’ll. So…..
I’m glad someone else pointed this out. I was baffled at the idea of a kid like this excelling in school.
I'm suspecting he cheated on his tests to give anyone the impression he was a good student
@@chardiemacdennis7218 yeah, true. But that was mentally ill like I have never quite seen before. Very odd manner of speaking and mannerisms. Seemed as if he was attempting to play a character rather than being himself.
I love this guy explaining the deeper meanings of American Psycho with the voice and cadence of someone making fun of a dumb person
His head went completely over the meaning of the movie/book as well lmao. Hes so confident describing patrick’s character, as if the point of the movie was to illustrate the ideals of what a psychopath is or could be. I believe bateman’s mind, at the end of the film, could even be seen as the voice of reason! The movie is not a documentary on a psychopath. The movie is a commentary on the capitalist model of business this society runs on, having the killings depict tactics that are often seen as normal in society just to gain an advantage for your interests. To the point where at the end whatever bateman did doesn’t even matter because everyone he was around did it too (metaphorically speaking). They even found a way to cover it up so they could sell the apartment! This critique on society just uses patrick as a vessel, to deliver a message. Anyone of sound mind (or that even watched the whole movie, maybe understands literary devices to some degree, also knows a bit about psychology ) knows that patrick is not an example of how psychopaths behave in the real world and what happened in the movie was exaggerated to the point even patrick himself can not distinguish from reality and imagination at times because of how absurd everything is. If the guy sitting in this interrogation room was so smart he would’ve picked another idol to excuse his sadistic tendencies and his overall disgusting personality. And if he was even smarter he would’ve just tried to live a semi normal life until he could get appropriate help.
“he knocks anybody that gets in his way” like that homeless person he killed? 😭 im dying
this made me CACKLE
29:59 is very telling. He cites food and clothes when trying to convince the detectives that it makes no sense for him to be the killer. He immediately went to material gains instead of saying he loved her, which is some haunting insight.
You're right, but also I could very well have said a similar thing about my mum when younger, despite not having harmed her. Sometimes I wonder if over-analysis is a thing. I kind of want to see how they handle an innocent person with ASC (or some other neurodivergent condition) in such an interrogation.
@@blazednlovinit well yeah, I'm saying it's particularly insightful given the context...
Also I doubt you'd be saying that after she was found murdered.
Everyone's love languages are different, his might have well been material items IF we didn't already know more about what really happened. Or his mom may have not did a lot of verbal love language, but gifting and it was a learned response that having things meant you loved a person and that person loved you. Really hard to know inside another's mind and their reasonings
Her ex thought she was being melodramatic. I hope that haunts him forever.
The older i get the less sad and shocking crimes get. And the more "cringe" they seem. That's really sad that I feel that way
Totally get that.
Yeah it becomes more the feeling of “they really destroyed the rest of their life and others for a Patrick Bateman obsession?”
It’s sad but very disappointing and pitiful.
For me it’s more like I used to find these crimes sad and shocking but now I feel like I understand more that these are real crimes people have done. The feeling I would describe it as is really creepy. I would say some of the crimes also definitely make me cringe too. Some of the things people kill for is incredibly ridiculous. Especially when they kill because of some petty inconvenience. It’s also cringy that people think they can outsmart detectives and get away with murder.
Im clueless on what a mom should do when they bore a psychopath. Dr Phil had nothing on this.
1st Ukraine was bad then Israel & now Gaza. When in USA we have mass shootings everywk & rd rage. We r on earth to love & care for each other. Im disabled & cant have a pity party compared to what Judy, Ethan's mom had to live thru. She loved & feared her own son.
Olden days there were fist fights & today bullets😢
It is strange that you feel this way because such cases are really sad and shocking 💔
The fact that nobody including his father listened to her is so heartbreaking
you can tell this guy is really tough, because after hours of puffing out his chest, flailing his flabby arms and denying it he throws it all away just for the promise of not having to share a cell with a criminal who doesn't target old ladies.
Scared af 😂
I disagree. He’s NOT tough - he’s playing tough. And he pushes out more strongly if you don’t believe him. A perfect adjustable mask
@@caligamer5364I think the person was being sarcastic when calling him tough.
I wouldn’t say old lady… she had a 16 yo
@@steveanon2053when you take weight gainer but don't workout properly lol
This made me want to tell my mother (whom I love and have had a peaceful co-existence with) that I apologize for any issues she had with me. Rest in peace, Judith.
He is the most annoying child I've ever seen on this channel. I've watched a lot of interrogations and not only is every action melodramatic but he's a terrible liar. Truly just horrible at lying. It's the equivalent of how a 5 year old would react when being told "no" by a parent.
Ehhhh Jeff Scullin still the worst lmao
He does remind me of a big ass toddler.😂
Excellent analysis. Very few people actually understand this. This comment should be pinned, so it can be seen by the 99.9% of people who think that the kid is honest and mature.
@@brinckau uh.. absolutely no one believes him.
@@libidooverdrive That was my point, expressed with sarcasm.
Feel so bad for the Mom. She asked repeatedly for help with this freak. She never got it.
he was put on anxiety meds and depression meds when he was just a young boy, look up and read (state VS windom).
child abuse from the mother. that backfired years later.
anyone who puts children on anti psychotic meds when there still children are sick in there head the brain is not developed.
let your child smoke a joint the state will come take your kid and charge you. but corporate drug dealers can perscribe literal children pychotic medicine? and parents will do it?
how do u make a 7 year old take a pill? crush it up put in there orange juice? shove it down there throat? absolutely disgusting.
make that make since,. any adult parent to put a child on anti psychotics isn't a real parent anyways. period.
That's what gets me! She voiced that she was afraid for her life. That she needed help. Poor Judy gave so many signs that she needed someone to get her away from her son.
I think out of the 10+ different titles this video has changed to, "When the Killer is Cringe" was the best one 😂
I enjoyed the narrative calling out that first interrogator for his bad interrogation tactics. Dude gave zero effort and then got mad when Ethan was getting cocky lol
😂
Thats what I like about this specific channel. They call out poor techniques.
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ethan is Ethan and that's it! 😂😅
I hate how this channel renames videos constantly. It's obvious farming the algorithm
This poor mother. Imagine having to live with this kid? He made her move out of her bedroom into the smallest room? That’s crazy. Rest in peace Judy.
I've seen a ton of interrogations and this one is by far the worst. The fact that he's only 16 and allowed to control the interview with his outbursts and consistent rambling. I hope these detectives learned something from this case. R.I.P. to his mother.
Or whatsherface's interrogation...the gal that suffocated her bf in a suitcase. That was horrible, too.
In the end, he confessed in great detail, so it seems like a highly successful interrogation to me.
As far as interrogations go, I'd say who cares how it goes so long as it doesn't result in inadmissible evidence or a false confession.
If you ever dealt with a crazy person, you would know that you don't control "the situation" you have to deescalate it before it gets worst. This kid is straight up nuts and should not be messed with.
@@PrizzlesticksI agree with you hottnes
I think they let him do it on purpose to keep on talking and talking cause eventually he was gonna talk so much it was gonna get him into trouble.
As much as I'm disgusted by what this kid did, I'm quite appalled how poorly this detective handled the situation as well.
Honestly; if that is how he has been interrogating people, I am surprised he has had his job for 30 years. Every step he took was the wrong one.
looks like he learned interrogation from watching a handful of these videos
Still got a confession. @@oldschool657
@@saddad6601 I have the same feelings. He did make a few classical moves and quotes, but all in the wrong time or for the wrong reason. I'm not sure who is more cringe in that situation tbh
Oh please, none of you would have the first clue what to do. Because you watched a few interviews your an expert? Also he does a good job with the videos but there a lot of things he is guessing at or pointing out a cues that aren't really there. He got the confession. Period.
It's extremely frightening that this kid will possibly be out in 10 years!!! Also, your channel is by far the best that there is!!! Thank you!!
He’s not even a kid anymore just has a stupid mentality
Rehabilitative Justice is better than punitive justice.
Also life in prison without porral is a crime against humanity
@@matthewdenhof5841you can't rehabilitate evil. Crime against humanity? No it isn't. It's deserved. That's what you get when you take a life, as it should be.
@@matthewdenhof5841What makes you think prison is rehabilitation
@@matthewdenhof5841I agree with your comments. You go to prison and get out, you get a chance to live life again.
This guy however... He's definitely not someone I want anywhere remotely close to where I live.
Wait, he’s getting out in 8 years? F’ing ridiculous
'A man holding a chainsaw and a shotgun.' Sir that's Ash Williams and he would NEVER kill his mother
Hail to the king, baby!
best movie(s) ever
Yeah that definitely stood out as odd among all the other movies, he's a good guy.
Give him some sugar!
If she was a deadite he’d do what he’s gotta do. Did it to his dad…
Quite possibly the worst interrogater I've ever watched. They should send him off for training.
Yeah the first guy was pretty bad. I think though that he felt they had so rock solid case against him that they didn't even need a confession. He just went with whatever came out of his mouth. Still probably not a good idea in any situation...well at least they pulled him off
They actually got him to blurt out a lot of incriminating statements. His anger was the weakness they exploited to get him to talk.
I think he believed the suspect was a lot more emotionally unstable than he actually was, and would break under the pressure of guilt. Instead, the suspect does not feel guilt, and his displays of emotion are mostly either theatrical or self serving.
Most of the murderers they get will be emotionally unstable, and have killed in the heat of the moment without planning. Applying pressure to these types will reinforce their scattered thoughts of guilt and shut down other thoughts of selt pitty or fear (of consequences). You hammer into them that their only way forward is to confess and you squash any other lines of thought.
Since this suspect didn't feel any guilt, this method wasn't effective. His ego meant that he just got more argumentative and entrenched in his position when pressured.
Yes, he is bad. He is doing all the talking and inferring.
Jesus christ this guy is an absolute psychopath, RIP Judy, you never ever deserved this pain. May you have peace now
Real phycos are much better at hideing it. They know what to say and act. He's an idiot phycopath. I say idiot because he thinks he's smart and its always the dumb ones who think their smart
Jesus Christ is a friend of mine. Do you know him?
Judy helped shape this person into what he is. divorced dysfunctional family coupled with ineffective parenting. Nobody deserves to be murdered but let's not absolve the parent's reponsibility in creating this monster.
That has to be the worst interviewer ever. That guy should never be allowed to interview anyone again lmao
Just goes to show that doing well in school and being intelligent are two very different things
I guess this interrogation is proof
There’s a difference between intelligence and wisdom.
@@BiggerBossN313this kid is obviously neither. He completely lacks the capacity to even form a half logical train of thought or act with any strategy
I'm no expert, but I don't think cleverness/ i.q. is the issue here. More like state of emotional intelligence, mental health, hormones, genetic predisposition, experiential history etc.
Maybe he bullied his mom into doing his homework for him
Holy shit... the whole 3/4 of this video was super hard to go through because of how insuferable he is, but man, hearing him describe it at the end... the tone of his voice suddenly changing to delight and pride... so casual... I'm having shivers. 😰
To think he could ever get out??!! Terrifying.
Betcha the detective was freaking out inside
Justice ⚖️ will be served weather in jail or when he gets out. I just worry about his brother snapping and ending up in jail over self-defense when his brother tries something with him and his family.
For a cop that supposedly had been "doing this for over 30 years," he did a terrible job with this interrogation. He let a 16 year old kid get under his skin.
yes because im sure all of your interrogations go swimmingly, its so easy for the layman to criticize a professional when they have zero experience with the topic
@@andrewprindiville119ahh there we go with the cop boot lickers coming out of the woodwork. since when does someone need to be an actual cop or be involved in police interrogations to make an entirely valid judgement about this cop’s performance? even the video narrator comments on how the cop seemed to be taking it personally and explained why the usual, rational tactic would be to build rapport with the suspect and not disagree with him to provoke him this way. this is so obvious, what makes you feel so righteously responsible to defend or justify this guy’s objectively shitty and hindering methods?
Everybody has a bad day at work sometimes. Sometimes nothing wants to work the way you want. You sleep it off and let someone else take over for the day
I don't blame the cop man. It's hard not to get emotional when you see what these people do. Especially first hand. That's gotta affect you in some ways. And nothing can really prepare you for how cold blooded some of these killers can be.
It still set up the second cop as the good cop. And it demonstrated how he reacts when angered. So it was still useful and they got a confession.
Ethan is either so into fight or flight, or neurologically atypical, he is having trouble verbalising his thoughts, and because the detective is not listening to him, theres countless missed opportunities to hear what hes got to say.
His hostility is strong, and needs a skilled and experienced mental health professional to communicate more effectively. Horrible that these behaviours are permitted in the community without proper family support.
We live in a society where the accountability to and dependence on the village has been largely broken down, and so many kids and families are being left by the wayside, until the cost to society of their actions then becomes far, far worse.
That kid clearly needed to be in supported residential home. Very dangerous young man indeed. Full of hostility.