I hope Overkill continues to add more weapons to future DLC with unique firing modes like with the hailstorm. Maybe even something gadget related like if a future weapon came with an exclusive set that had a thermal sight that could be toggled on and off and used through smoke.
I really don't think any future weapon should come with a thermal sight option. A better option would be to add the thermal option to all avaliable sights and only allow them to work with sicario smoke.
They don’t have a single weapon that is burst fire. Maybe they can add the AN 94 which irl has a 2 round burst option and implement that small gimmick in the game.
no cap this weapon looks really similar to typhoon from crysis 3( a game from 2013 ) both are inspired by metal storm project imo video of the gun: ruclips.net/video/iflmHVj1dzU/видео.html
The only part of the hailstorm that confuses me is its concealment. I get that it’s for balance, but this thing is smaller than a lot of smgs and only gets half their concealment.
The minigun can get 12 con but regardless both don't need crits anyways. Personally crits is fun outside of dsod but you're so squishy the extra dps is pointless if you're downing so easily and often.
I loved the old metal storm project that got scrapped back in I think the noughties/early 2010s, and this is *definitely* inspired by that (because the typhoon definitely is, too) I love its aesthetics and this might be a weapon pack I get for once.
Your comment about the campaign taking place in the rural south isn’t entirely accurate (at least for the next map). The next map is going to be taking place in Fort Worth, specifically a rail yard right next to the very urban downtown area. Also, there are a bunch of defense contractors in the area, so an experimental weapon like the hailstorm showing up in Texas is more likely than you think.
I feel like it would work pretty good in a grinder crit build, seeing the high firerate and that grinder can utilize the ammo skills for throweables using molotovs.
i have a build where i use the Hailstorm along with the Basilisk from the last McShay DLC and along with being incredibly ammo sustainable, it is also an absolute blast (just ignore the fact you can't see shit lol)
Finaly. Some compared it to the typhoon. I grew up with the crysis franchise so when I saw this I had to get it juts to act like an alien nanosuit having bank heister. I saw lots of people comparing it to the gun from halo but it's closer to the gun from crysis in my opinion.
i hope they go back to older weapons sometime and give some classics some love with new customization. like being able to turn the UZI into the mini UZI,making the MP5 more decent and maybe getting it a extended mag and more
I'd love a new AK/CAR Weapon/Mod Pack, with lots of mods and maybe a weapon or two (I'd love any way to get me an AR-57 in PAYDAY 2), plus make many mods work on other similar guns, like the Gecko, AK-15, Bootleg, Little Friend, Ketchnov, and many more weapons that could take many existing mods but for some god-forsaken reason they don't, it'd be amazing, both in the New DLC department and the "Free" content department.
The Compact 5 is honestly amazing. Mainly in utility like the Gruber Kurz/Bernetti to fit weapons. It's pretty understandable that they won't do as well as other better weapons, but it is great that it has a niche.
The Hailstorm became part of my Playstyle, ran together with Basilisk Launcher (With Viper grenades of course) and Maniac. Its not a price winning Loadout, but its fun on Overkill (didnt try mayhem yet)
I know that you have your 'Mods in 2022' video already planned, but I would love to see more custom things like the Predator Mod you covered last year. Things I always wondered are: -how do mods work online when playing with people who don't have the same mod? -do custom perk decks/characters replace existing ones?
1. afaik most stats are shared for the other players, so Custom Weapons works almost flawlessly, the only things that don't work online are Concealment and (I Think) Threat, otherwise everything else works, as for the models, sounds, etc, those don't, the other players just see your weapon as something else from the vanilla game chosen by the Mod Creator (most of the time they choose the AM-CAR) so that the game doesn't crash for the other players. 2. While I can't talk about Custom Perk Decks (I've never used them lol) I can talk about custom characters, and the answer for that is Yes and No, depends on when the mod was done, all pre-2019 mods for Characters did replace Vanilla ones (for example the L4D2 Nick Character Pack replaces Scarface with L4D2's Nick), then a bit later they found a way to add new characters, though it was clunky so it was then "Replaced" by Legendary Armor Skin which is a mod that added new armor skins that worked like the vanilla game's armor skins so it didn't replace heisters, though later when Outfits were introduced they just changed to use the Outfit system as it's just easier to use (it still kept the name though so there's that), so in the end, no because it doesn't replace characters, but yes because older mods did replace characters. If anyone reading this knows better than me, please correct me.
I haven't bought the weapon pack yet but I would assume that the railgun mode thing would be great at holding long chokepoints. Sure, it's not ammo efficient but considering the fact that it shreds everything in it's path, you know...
Yeah, been using it for a couple games and it's really easy to run out of ammo, specially with the volley mode but god that thing is so much fun to use
Honestly, I'd love a sort of Difficulty depending Ammo pickup system, where you get more ammo for some guns on lower difficulties to just fuck around with them. I'd absolutely adore spamming the Railgun mode on Overkill heists without requiring to spec deep into ammo bags
@@SakuyalzayoiTheMaid even it clumps the volley mode felt weak. I'm talking the top room on cook off almost completely filled and the peirce of the volley doesn't go through much.
@@fiyahquacker2835 yea it's should have ammo pickup buff. Like it's has the same fire rate as the microgun, slightly better damage and it's the only special weapon with damage dropoff but it's has less than double ammo pickup compare to the microgun. (bad english)
It's literally just a better minigun with ADs and 5/7 shotgun secondary firing mode(honestly i hardly use it lol). Yes you can bring the con to take advantage of 30 crit you can do the same with the minigun as well. It's just hailstorm has better stats, reload and is a bit more versatile but the minigun can achieve similar results just it doesn't get the accuracy or the 100 acc 92 Sta split or 96 acc 96 sta split with the hailstorm. They both fill the same roles it's just the hailstorm does it a little better after playing it. Personally the minigun and or microgun feels better the low accuracy is great for crowds. Honestly I hope nothing changes too much it's fun to use and isn't all different compared the minigun, microgun, MG 42 or low dmg assault rifles. Out of them all the hailstorm is the best on paper but in game they're all very similar in game.
This gun shows that overkill could make shotguns actually work how they should (counting the damage of every pellet rather than just one and ignoring the rest)
@@screamingcactus1753 yeah, because all pellets do the full damage of the weapon instead of being divided between all pellets (which is how most games actually do Shotguns), imagine if shotties worked like the Hailstorm Volley Mode, imagine how much damage the 155 shotguns would do with a single shell 💀
PLEASE mention Restoration Mod in your 2022 mods video. and if you do, try ALL the heists, and i mean ALL. especially Boiling Point. you'll be in for a nasty little surprise with it.
overall, the hailstorm was my favorite addition in this DLC by far. My only complaint is that it REALLY sucks without low-blow or zerk, even if you have body expertise aced
Actually a great weapon on sociopath it shreads and replenishes plenty of armor while also benefitting from a nice array of buffs had to fully spec into ammo pickup but when you get it completely self sustaining you will have no problems
this weapon is really similar to typhoon from crysis 3 (2013 game)(ruclips.net/video/iflmHVj1dzU/видео.html) both are kinda inspired by the metal storm project but payday 2 looks wayy to similar to typhoon
Except the Vulcan just like the hailstorm is a dlc weapon and in terms of value the hailstorm belongs to a more worth while dlc assuming you buy the base game and dlc separately plus the only other similar gun being the microgun isn't tied to any dlc. The only other thing you get from the dlc where the Vulcan came from is the completely outclassed hrl7 rocket launcher.
If I had to resume the whole payday community in a sentence it would be:you like giving your real money to Papa Almir so you can steal virtual one that lacks value, talking about virtual money, when are we getting the next texan heat heist? I crave fake money
hey i know i am taking a chance here and probally not gonna get a answer i am now on pc payday -i do still play console from time to time - but what is the custom map at 2:28 could i get a link please or name
The engine used for Payday 2 would require Overkill to completely re-write the code for every update so for new Payday content consoles are gonna have to wait for Payday 3
@@Glue_Eater06 if they didn't go through financial issues there probably would been at least an update or 2 though since going through the code wasn't the issue and the allocation of resources to pc updates and payday 3 make more financial sense.
There is kind of no definitive answer. Everyone likes playing the game differently and a lot of perks/weapons/skill set ups have their own advantages and disadvantages. Like LMGs are very easy to use, they can kill decently fast, Doesn't need a damage up and can sustain themselves really well, but they are outclassed by faster killing weapons like Akimbo SMGs and Assault Rifles which can really help against Bulldozers. But the Akimbo SMGs and Assault Rifles require you to set up as in getting things like Low blow aced/Berserker aced on top of some other skills to use them well. But at the same time they kill ridiculously fast. I'd say if you need some ideas, you can always try Stoic with an LMG, ICTV and Hostage Taker aced Jokers. Stoic forces you to take damage and get into cover to heal it off. This is really good as it forces you to play the game well. That and the Hip flask can be used as safety net for when you take too much damage or for rushing something. And LMGs are one of the easiest weapons to use as you don't really need much outside of Body Expertise and Surefire aced. You can just spray at the swats and easy regain ammo by picking them up. You can also try this set up with other perks. Like maybe you aren't a fan of Stoic. There's always Armourer and Muscle which are pretty simple to use. Armourer is really tanky and the Invincibility can be used to incredibly well, while Muscle is really nice for supporting and tanking with your health. But yeah those are my recommendations.
I think what drives it over the top is the secondary fire, it's cool but i think it nudges the weapon into OP territory. I personally think it should have bit more aggressive damage fall off and bit less damage or some minor tweaks in accuracy/stability/conc. It's just way too high DPS, but the problem is that if you balance it for zerk+crit you ruin it for non zerk/crit probably. Adding the secondary fire to an already powerful weapon just means there is almost nothing that you cant deal with easily. You can one shot at least two dozers on DS if you line em up with the secondary fire with crits and zerk at least. It's basically a superior minigun with 5/7 duct taped to it. Also i disagree, it does self-sustain, at least with zerk+crit. You just have to be more mindful of it, not too great but good enough. Though that doesnt even matter much because you can ditch 5/7 and take something like micro uzi because you dont need to think about shields. But i love it doe, i really like the concept, i like the way it is but i honestly think it's just tiny bit too powerful. Though it is overshadowed by the sheer power of the tombstone slugs right now.
Ehh it would be OP in a world where akimbo SMGs don't exist. If you think about it, most of them already have better DPS, better ammo efficiency, speed pull mags, much better concealment, and not much worse accuracy/stability. You basically trade all those advantages for the sheld pierce.
@@ylyxa fair point but most if none of the akimbo smgs can reach the same stats, often they lack either acc/stab/ammo pool/pickup/conc plus dont have the alt fire. It's not too op just slightly.
@@Remon_ I wouldn't call it op to any extent especially since the secondary mode/volley mode basically makes the ammo economy that was already bad even worse. It's almost like when the mingus first got an ammo pickup.
@@fiyahquacker2835 i dont think its that bad, especially since you dont need to take 5/7 as secondary. Also 30 ammo to one shot a dozer, potentially two (rarely they line up), is quite efficient i'd say. For shields its a bit of a waste doe. But the ammo pickup is high enough and the ammo pool is high enough that it wont matter most of the time. Especially if you run muzi as backup eith crit zerk.
@@Remon_ Hailstorm's ammo efficiency is atrocious at ~300 base dmg per box. AFAIK it's literally the least ammo efficient gun in the game if you don't count flamethrowers and stuff like that. As for the DPS, Hailstorm is worse than every akimbo SMG except the blaster and compact-5 without the straight mag. Plus, SMGs have a 20% damage buff at close range and less aggressive damage falloff. With ammo reserves Hailstorm, again, only really wins against the lowest-damage SMGs like the blaster, because all others can dish out about the same damage per ammo pool. Talking about concealment here is funny af. The best Hailstorm can reach is 11, needing a 31 concealment secondary *and* inner pockets to reach 23 DR. When the vast majority of akimbos sit in the low to high 20s and can easily get you to 4 DR. I was able to build a pair of 100/96 akimbo CR805s with almost double the DPS, almost double the ammo efficiency, and 16 concealment to boot. Better than hailstorm in every possible way, minus the alt fire.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Payday 2 is now the testing ground for Payday 3. They're just shitting out random weapons and other gameplay mechanics to see what sticks, which will then be used as lessons learned for Payday 3. This may help them make a better game, but the other result is, unfortunately, that Payday 2 will probably be left in this wacky, over the top state, straying even further from the original game we all knew and loved in years before. Congrats guys. We are all unpaid beta testers.
Heilstorm is useless weapon. Yeah, it's very good dps, but ammo pickup and concealment are very low. You need to do maximum damage boosts (zerk&crits) if you want to have good dmg and ammo economy. It means that we are limited to a small number of perk decks (
You basically answered your own question, the gun is fun. But just because you need ammo bags, doesn't make it useless. It can kill really fast with one of either Low blow/Berserk and has quite a bit of ammo to go through. Crits and Zerk is really good, but it isn't everything. You can make it work as a primary with ammo bags and Secondary smgs still exist. You could even make it a secondary for Bulldozers since it can kill really fast. It isn't meta, but it is far from garbage.
Payday 2 to me is officially losing its identity,more and more futuristic weapons with too many functions to count all in one all of these which have no place in Payday to begin with but hey the game is at its endlife anyway since soon PD3 will come out so i guess the devs wanna suck the plzayers dry of money ASAP before that happens,is kinda sad tho that this also suffers from what most other games in the past did,devs usually do this even GTA Online did it,at first it was all normal vehicles and all now its alien spaceships and flying bikes and shit. Well same happens to PD2 now and again its sad that such a great game is shamed like this by its own creators being sent to its own grave in this way instead of in a big explosion of glory.
Kinda sounds like you're a black hole of purity sucking all the joy. If you don't like how things are going fine be a damn sucky purist like the other probably only 1%.
They nerf enough stuff. Leave shit alone Sorry I work for a living. and watched 30 seconds. Just got home and will watch the whole video. Please internet forgive my overreaction. Remember that the last guy who was claiming to be perfect ended up on a cross :)
@@TheKknowley Well but how is he supposed to know that if he just watches the first minute or so, types a comment in a huff, and then clicks away because you dare supposedly come after his beloved pixels? Cut the mate some slack /s
@@stijnvanlankveld9893 no slack given since with comments like that it'd be smarter to watch the whole thing first. No kindness for that kind of comment and that insanely bad excuse.
I wouldn't say so. If the ammo economy was similar to the mini/micro gun then absolutely it'd be op considering it has the damage and fire rate of the micro with just 1 concealment potential less than the mini.
@@fiyahquacker2835 dps between them is irrelevant if you're sacrificing survivability for more dps to kill bulldozers faster you'll find you're self dying more despite do crazy amounts of dps. From playing with minigun 30 crit ik how easy it to dye. Even with 18 crit it's still rough. I found that having frenzy aced and underdog aced for anarchist to be happy medium with dps and survivability. That or just running stoic, armorer or muscle, ictv and first aid kits for some of the most tank.
@@tylerstronk anarchist frenzy is exactly how I do things with weapons like the hailstorm. Buddy I absolutely know how some dps builds are major glass cannons as I've use many over my nearly 6300hrs of most screwing around and testing random stuff out like a dps pistol build with no gunslinger skills used.
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I hope Overkill continues to add more weapons to future DLC with unique firing modes like with the hailstorm. Maybe even something gadget related like if a future weapon came with an exclusive set that had a thermal sight that could be toggled on and off and used through smoke.
Sicario would be fun with thermal sights
I really don't think any future weapon should come with a thermal sight option. A better option would be to add the thermal option to all avaliable sights and only allow them to work with sicario smoke.
They don’t have a single weapon that is burst fire. Maybe they can add the AN 94 which irl has a 2 round burst option and implement that small gimmick in the game.
no cap this weapon looks really similar to typhoon from crysis 3( a game from 2013 )
both are inspired by metal storm project imo
video of the gun: ruclips.net/video/iflmHVj1dzU/видео.html
Imagine being Garret whenever PayDay gang gets a new toy to play with.
“WHAT, YOU SAID THEY ARE THROWING GRENADES THAT TURN PEOPLE INTO SKELETONS!?!?”
".
What the fuck-
WHATS A HAILSTORM-"
“HOW THE #*%% IS A MONEY GUN KILLING THE TROOPS?!”
"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOUR ELITE SKULLDOZERS ARE BEATEN BY MOTHERFUCKING SPOONS?!"
@@Cucumber_Dragon "they're finally receiving a living wage, commissioner!"
"BY GOD, THAT'S GONNA GIVE THEM A HEART ATTACK!"
The only part of the hailstorm that confuses me is its concealment. I get that it’s for balance, but this thing is smaller than a lot of smgs and only gets half their concealment.
The minigun can get 12 con but regardless both don't need crits anyways. Personally crits is fun outside of dsod but you're so squishy the extra dps is pointless if you're downing so easily and often.
I swear it's like the same concealment as a microgun
*Windows reboot noises*
Honestly the only thing keeping it balanced is the ammo pickup.
@@djdave4656 plus 3 but minus one for the minigun
I loved the old metal storm project that got scrapped back in I think the noughties/early 2010s, and this is *definitely* inspired by that (because the typhoon definitely is, too) I love its aesthetics and this might be a weapon pack I get for once.
"you're gonna need a solid ammo positive secondary" *b roll footage kknowley pulls out judge*
Lol I was confused too. But hearing his conclusions made sense and added.some clarification
Your comment about the campaign taking place in the rural south isn’t entirely accurate (at least for the next map). The next map is going to be taking place in Fort Worth, specifically a rail yard right next to the very urban downtown area. Also, there are a bunch of defense contractors in the area, so an experimental weapon like the hailstorm showing up in Texas is more likely than you think.
I was legit saying to myself "That's just the bloody Typhoon from Crysis 3", nonetheless it's a absolutely badass looking weapon
I feel like it would work pretty good in a grinder crit build, seeing the high firerate and that grinder can utilize the ammo skills for throweables using molotovs.
i have a build where i use the Hailstorm along with the Basilisk from the last McShay DLC and along with being incredibly ammo sustainable, it is also an absolute blast (just ignore the fact you can't see shit lol)
Railstorm + infinite ammo for 60 seconds = *UNLIMITED POWER*
My first impression on Hailstorm was: "Bruh, it's just ripped Typhoon from Crysis 3"
Finaly. Some compared it to the typhoon. I grew up with the crysis franchise so when I saw this I had to get it juts to act like an alien nanosuit having bank heister. I saw lots of people comparing it to the gun from halo but it's closer to the gun from crysis in my opinion.
i hope they go back to older weapons sometime and give some classics some love with new customization. like being able to turn the UZI into the mini UZI,making the MP5 more decent and maybe getting it a extended mag and more
I'd love Obrez mods for the Nagant and Mare's Leg mods for the repeater
How about an under-barrel shotgun for the Amcar? Like 3 or 4 shells perhaps?
I'd love a new AK/CAR Weapon/Mod Pack, with lots of mods and maybe a weapon or two (I'd love any way to get me an AR-57 in PAYDAY 2), plus make many mods work on other similar guns, like the Gecko, AK-15, Bootleg, Little Friend, Ketchnov, and many more weapons that could take many existing mods but for some god-forsaken reason they don't, it'd be amazing, both in the New DLC department and the "Free" content department.
@@M0D776 Make the AR57 a primary SMG (aka classified as an assault rifle)
The Compact 5 is honestly amazing. Mainly in utility like the Gruber Kurz/Bernetti to fit weapons. It's pretty understandable that they won't do as well as other better weapons, but it is great that it has a niche.
The Hailstorm became part of my Playstyle, ran together with Basilisk Launcher (With Viper grenades of course) and Maniac. Its not a price winning Loadout, but its fun on Overkill (didnt try mayhem yet)
If anyone played the Crysis series, this is basically I early version of the Typoon.
I know that you have your 'Mods in 2022' video already planned, but I would love to see more custom things like the Predator Mod you covered last year.
Things I always wondered are:
-how do mods work online when playing with people who don't have the same mod?
-do custom perk decks/characters replace existing ones?
1. afaik most stats are shared for the other players, so Custom Weapons works almost flawlessly, the only things that don't work online are Concealment and (I Think) Threat, otherwise everything else works, as for the models, sounds, etc, those don't, the other players just see your weapon as something else from the vanilla game chosen by the Mod Creator (most of the time they choose the AM-CAR) so that the game doesn't crash for the other players.
2. While I can't talk about Custom Perk Decks (I've never used them lol) I can talk about custom characters, and the answer for that is Yes and No, depends on when the mod was done, all pre-2019 mods for Characters did replace Vanilla ones (for example the L4D2 Nick Character Pack replaces Scarface with L4D2's Nick), then a bit later they found a way to add new characters, though it was clunky so it was then "Replaced" by Legendary Armor Skin which is a mod that added new armor skins that worked like the vanilla game's armor skins so it didn't replace heisters, though later when Outfits were introduced they just changed to use the Outfit system as it's just easier to use (it still kept the name though so there's that), so in the end, no because it doesn't replace characters, but yes because older mods did replace characters.
If anyone reading this knows better than me, please correct me.
I haven't bought the weapon pack yet but I would assume that the railgun mode thing would be great at holding long chokepoints. Sure, it's not ammo efficient but considering the fact that it shreds everything in it's path, you know...
we got pd3 and mw2 coming out soon. I guess this is payback for the drought of games we've had recently
Only really op if you have bulletstorm, but if so, then absolutely.
If they gave it ammo pickup similar to the microgun then it'd be op completely.
Yeah, been using it for a couple games and it's really easy to run out of ammo, specially with the volley mode but god that thing is so much fun to use
Honestly, I'd love a sort of Difficulty depending Ammo pickup system, where you get more ammo for some guns on lower difficulties to just fuck around with them. I'd absolutely adore spamming the Railgun mode on Overkill heists without requiring to spec deep into ammo bags
The auto fire mode will shoot more bullets than the volley mode in the time it takes to charge it, so the only real usage of the volley is shields.
or a clumped up spawn wave, its cool to have the option to have a chance to delete for less ammo is great
@@SakuyalzayoiTheMaid even it clumps the volley mode felt weak. I'm talking the top room on cook off almost completely filled and the peirce of the volley doesn't go through much.
I think's it's balanced, but unique. LOVE IT
like everything should be
I do feel like it could do with a slight ammo pickup buff. Obviously not one similar to where the microgun is at.
@@fiyahquacker2835 yea it's should have ammo pickup buff. Like it's has the same fire rate as the microgun, slightly better damage and it's the only special weapon with damage dropoff but it's has less than double ammo pickup compare to the microgun. (bad english)
It's literally just a better minigun with ADs and 5/7 shotgun secondary firing mode(honestly i hardly use it lol). Yes you can bring the con to take advantage of 30 crit you can do the same with the minigun as well. It's just hailstorm has better stats, reload and is a bit more versatile but the minigun can achieve similar results just it doesn't get the accuracy or the 100 acc 92 Sta split or 96 acc 96 sta split with the hailstorm.
They both fill the same roles it's just the hailstorm does it a little better after playing it. Personally the minigun and or microgun feels better the low accuracy is great for crowds.
Honestly I hope nothing changes too much it's fun to use and isn't all different compared the minigun, microgun, MG 42 or low dmg assault rifles. Out of them all the hailstorm is the best on paper but in game they're all very similar in game.
Plus you don't need lock n load aced saving 6 points.
From personal experience, you can go ham with it but around the range of 200 bullets in reserve you have to tone down the bullet hose.
This gun shows that overkill could make shotguns actually work how they should (counting the damage of every pellet rather than just one and ignoring the rest)
As far as I'm aware, the current implementation of shotguns is 100% intentional.
@@screamingcactus1753 yeah, because all pellets do the full damage of the weapon instead of being divided between all pellets (which is how most games actually do Shotguns), imagine if shotties worked like the Hailstorm Volley Mode, imagine how much damage the 155 shotguns would do with a single shell 💀
@@M0D776 they'd be completely broken assuming dmg is kept as is. Dmg would absolutely need a nerf to an extent
PLEASE mention Restoration Mod in your 2022 mods video. and if you do, try ALL the heists, and i mean ALL. especially Boiling Point. you'll be in for a nasty little surprise with it.
overall, the hailstorm was my favorite addition in this DLC by far. My only complaint is that it REALLY sucks without low-blow or zerk, even if you have body expertise aced
Great comparisons and arguments! Cheers for exceptional content as always!
Time to update the "toxic build" with the new tools given to us :D
1:16 was just abouta type that beat me to the punch
Actually a great weapon on sociopath it shreads and replenishes plenty of armor while also benefitting from a nice array of buffs had to fully spec into ammo pickup but when you get it completely self sustaining you will have no problems
Some thing i noticed is that you can enable a built-in laser with q but you cannot customize it so its impossible to see in daylight.
use the NV-brinite to see the laser lmao
I have that changed to H since with my laptop as bad as it is I have Q as hold to sprint.
Isnt Q by default the "place bag" button?
@@mouthwide0pen No, G is the place bag button.
@@donbeed9917 OH FUCK i forgot i swapped the two binds
finally...a "burst" weapon
What kinda extremely futuristic ass P90 is this holy shit it looks cool
this weapon is really similar to typhoon from crysis 3 (2013 game)(ruclips.net/video/iflmHVj1dzU/видео.html)
both are kinda inspired by the metal storm project but payday 2 looks wayy to similar to typhoon
another Vulcan powercreep 😔 vulcanbros pouring one out tonight
They're basically the same it's just slightly better personally is still like the minigun and microgun.
Except the Vulcan just like the hailstorm is a dlc weapon and in terms of value the hailstorm belongs to a more worth while dlc assuming you buy the base game and dlc separately plus the only other similar gun being the microgun isn't tied to any dlc. The only other thing you get from the dlc where the Vulcan came from is the completely outclassed hrl7 rocket launcher.
its looks like something from Destiny 2 exotic weapons
knowing the hailstorm was a real thing that basically was a garbage turret makes it better that its not exactly trash
this gun is based on the metal storm you can see what it actually is on youtube
No fair, he's got a gun from the future!
The Typhone from Crysis 3!!!!
Kinda looks like the assault rife from the deus ex games
Your voice brings me peace
for some weird reason valley shot is nit working... what im doing wrong?
so basically Crysis 3's Typhoon?
Shotguns need a buff NOT the meta ones though
I thought this was an OICW for a second. XD
"Switching fire modes turns it into a railgun" So am I playing Payday 2 or Apex Legends? not that im complaining lol
Assault machine shotgun
I have 0 idea what the gun is tbh I thought it would be like a p90 but uses shotgun shells cause of the ammo in the back...still have 0 idea...
Anyone else have a weird camera bug when reloading or using volley mode? Just me?
Of course it's over powered.
It's from Crysis for Nano's sake.
One of my faves rn
Whats that mid that shows you extra stats
Bloody hell this looks sweet
Is this weapon work with body expertise?
dude im sick as fuck and I was bored, time to watch kknowley
If I had to resume the whole payday community in a sentence it would be:you like giving your real money to Papa Almir so you can steal virtual one that lacks value, talking about virtual money, when are we getting the next texan heat heist? I crave fake money
Pretty sure there's a time line thing shown on the combo pack.
How do you see ammo pickup value and other extra info in the inventory menu ?
hey i know i am taking a chance here and probally not gonna get a answer i am now on pc payday -i do still play console from time to time - but what is the custom map at 2:28 could i get a link please or name
How does he have that dot crosshair? Is it the Pocohud mod or is it a different mod?
What HUD mod are you using here?
You suggest running an ammo positive secondary, then you say you run the Five/Seven
He said he experimented with it and then concluded ("but your best bet..." 5:39) and then talked about the micro UZI.
@@Sulidaire the micro uzi basically generates it's own ammo
@@heroman2372 Oh yeah, I know, clarifying something
When did this game turn into Halo
If fun became a gun!
Thanks once again for the great video.
Just do a collab with CDPR already.
I always forget to ask but is the dot crosshair part of your hud mod? Would love to add that to my list.
It's in the options as some kind of accessibility feature (might help motion sickness to have a dot i guess)
Bro it sounds like a pack a punched gun
It's at least a whole bunch of fun even if you think it's bad
Did you even watch the video?
@@herozen1338 low key I typed that at the beginning and second there some that may not like it im stating the facts that it is a fun weapon to use
@@zachcook4190 I love you say facts, followed by somthing that's completely subjective lmao
@@Lakita2880 I never claimed I was intelligent
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I have payday 2 on my Xbox and I don't have a PC and wonderd if you can convince overkill to come back to giving updates for consoles.
Pls🥺
The engine used for Payday 2 would require Overkill to completely re-write the code for every update so for new Payday content consoles are gonna have to wait for Payday 3
@@Glue_Eater06 NOOOOOOOOOO. Now I am sad because I don't know that and I what all the new stuff 😫😫
@@Glue_Eater06 if they didn't go through financial issues there probably would been at least an update or 2 though since going through the code wasn't the issue and the allocation of resources to pc updates and payday 3 make more financial sense.
wha is the best loadout? for loud i prefer playing loud s i need a good loadout
There is kind of no definitive answer.
Everyone likes playing the game differently and a lot of perks/weapons/skill set ups have their own advantages and disadvantages.
Like LMGs are very easy to use, they can kill decently fast, Doesn't need a damage up and can sustain themselves really well, but they are outclassed by faster killing weapons like Akimbo SMGs and Assault Rifles which can really help against Bulldozers.
But the Akimbo SMGs and Assault Rifles require you to set up as in getting things like Low blow aced/Berserker aced on top of some other skills to use them well. But at the same time they kill ridiculously fast.
I'd say if you need some ideas, you can always try Stoic with an LMG, ICTV and Hostage Taker aced Jokers. Stoic forces you to take damage and get into cover to heal it off. This is really good as it forces you to play the game well. That and the Hip flask can be used as safety net for when you take too much damage or for rushing something.
And LMGs are one of the easiest weapons to use as you don't really need much outside of Body Expertise and Surefire aced. You can just spray at the swats and easy regain ammo by picking them up.
You can also try this set up with other perks. Like maybe you aren't a fan of Stoic. There's always Armourer and Muscle which are pretty simple to use. Armourer is really tanky and the Invincibility can be used to incredibly well, while Muscle is really nice for supporting and tanking with your health.
But yeah those are my recommendations.
Felt really underpowered on DW for me yesterday, I dunno about this take man.
If you don't run crits/zerk I could imagine so
Body expertise + zerk or crits. Personally zerk and frenzy aced with anarchist or ictv+ unseen strick aced with stoic or armorer.
@@tylerstronk based for the ictv stoic call
이총좋아요? hey this gun good?
Hey Overkill ,when are we getting a cop painter? Cop skins plz....I wanna change responders colors to new colors.....
I think what drives it over the top is the secondary fire, it's cool but i think it nudges the weapon into OP territory. I personally think it should have bit more aggressive damage fall off and bit less damage or some minor tweaks in accuracy/stability/conc. It's just way too high DPS, but the problem is that if you balance it for zerk+crit you ruin it for non zerk/crit probably.
Adding the secondary fire to an already powerful weapon just means there is almost nothing that you cant deal with easily. You can one shot at least two dozers on DS if you line em up with the secondary fire with crits and zerk at least.
It's basically a superior minigun with 5/7 duct taped to it.
Also i disagree, it does self-sustain, at least with zerk+crit. You just have to be more mindful of it, not too great but good enough. Though that doesnt even matter much because you can ditch 5/7 and take something like micro uzi because you dont need to think about shields.
But i love it doe, i really like the concept, i like the way it is but i honestly think it's just tiny bit too powerful. Though it is overshadowed by the sheer power of the tombstone slugs right now.
Ehh it would be OP in a world where akimbo SMGs don't exist. If you think about it, most of them already have better DPS, better ammo efficiency, speed pull mags, much better concealment, and not much worse accuracy/stability.
You basically trade all those advantages for the sheld pierce.
@@ylyxa fair point but most if none of the akimbo smgs can reach the same stats, often they lack either acc/stab/ammo pool/pickup/conc plus dont have the alt fire.
It's not too op just slightly.
@@Remon_ I wouldn't call it op to any extent especially since the secondary mode/volley mode basically makes the ammo economy that was already bad even worse. It's almost like when the mingus first got an ammo pickup.
@@fiyahquacker2835 i dont think its that bad, especially since you dont need to take 5/7 as secondary. Also 30 ammo to one shot a dozer, potentially two (rarely they line up), is quite efficient i'd say. For shields its a bit of a waste doe. But the ammo pickup is high enough and the ammo pool is high enough that it wont matter most of the time. Especially if you run muzi as backup eith crit zerk.
@@Remon_ Hailstorm's ammo efficiency is atrocious at ~300 base dmg per box. AFAIK it's literally the least ammo efficient gun in the game if you don't count flamethrowers and stuff like that. As for the DPS, Hailstorm is worse than every akimbo SMG except the blaster and compact-5 without the straight mag.
Plus, SMGs have a 20% damage buff at close range and less aggressive damage falloff.
With ammo reserves Hailstorm, again, only really wins against the lowest-damage SMGs like the blaster, because all others can dish out about the same damage per ammo pool.
Talking about concealment here is funny af. The best Hailstorm can reach is 11, needing a 31 concealment secondary *and* inner pockets to reach 23 DR. When the vast majority of akimbos sit in the low to high 20s and can easily get you to 4 DR.
I was able to build a pair of 100/96 akimbo CR805s with almost double the DPS, almost double the ammo efficiency, and 16 concealment to boot. Better than hailstorm in every possible way, minus the alt fire.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Payday 2 is now the testing ground for Payday 3. They're just shitting out random weapons and other gameplay mechanics to see what sticks, which will then be used as lessons learned for Payday 3.
This may help them make a better game, but the other result is, unfortunately, that Payday 2 will probably be left in this wacky, over the top state, straying even further from the original game we all knew and loved in years before.
Congrats guys. We are all unpaid beta testers.
Why don't you know how to read "mark 5"?
this is NOT an lmg tf is that crazy fire rate
not sayin anythin bad
Heilstorm is useless weapon. Yeah, it's very good dps, but ammo pickup and concealment are very low. You need to do maximum damage boosts (zerk&crits) if you want to have good dmg and ammo economy. It means that we are limited to a small number of perk decks (
You basically answered your own question, the gun is fun.
But just because you need ammo bags, doesn't make it useless. It can kill really fast with one of either Low blow/Berserk and has quite a bit of ammo to go through.
Crits and Zerk is really good, but it isn't everything. You can make it work as a primary with ammo bags and Secondary smgs still exist. You could even make it a secondary for Bulldozers since it can kill really fast.
It isn't meta, but it is far from garbage.
Payday 2 to me is officially losing its identity,more and more futuristic weapons with too many functions to count all in one all of these which have no place in Payday to begin with but hey the game is at its endlife anyway since soon PD3 will come out so i guess the devs wanna suck the plzayers dry of money ASAP before that happens,is kinda sad tho that this also suffers from what most other games in the past did,devs usually do this even GTA Online did it,at first it was all normal vehicles and all now its alien spaceships and flying bikes and shit. Well same happens to PD2 now and again its sad that such a great game is shamed like this by its own creators being sent to its own grave in this way instead of in a big explosion of glory.
Kinda sounds like you're a black hole of purity sucking all the joy. If you don't like how things are going fine be a damn sucky purist like the other probably only 1%.
Just play Payday 37.1, it has no stupid heists and this version is optimised as well. Weights less than current PAYDAY somewhere around 20gb.
Wait for nerf.
:)
They nerf enough stuff. Leave shit alone Sorry I work for a living. and watched 30 seconds. Just got home and will watch the whole video. Please internet forgive my overreaction. Remember that the last guy who was claiming to be perfect ended up on a cross :)
This is an 8 minute long video about why I really like the weapon....
@@TheKknowley Well but how is he supposed to know that if he just watches the first minute or so, types a comment in a huff, and then clicks away because you dare supposedly come after his beloved pixels? Cut the mate some slack /s
@@stijnvanlankveld9893 no slack given since with comments like that it'd be smarter to watch the whole thing first. No kindness for that kind of comment and that insanely bad excuse.
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woahg im early! love your videos kknowley!
Over powered maybe, but it’s fun as hell
I wouldn't say so. If the ammo economy was similar to the mini/micro gun then absolutely it'd be op considering it has the damage and fire rate of the micro with just 1 concealment potential less than the mini.
@@fiyahquacker2835 dps between them is irrelevant if you're sacrificing survivability for more dps to kill bulldozers faster you'll find you're self dying more despite do crazy amounts of dps. From playing with minigun 30 crit ik how easy it to dye. Even with 18 crit it's still rough. I found that having frenzy aced and underdog aced for anarchist to be happy medium with dps and survivability. That or just running stoic, armorer or muscle, ictv and first aid kits for some of the most tank.
@@tylerstronk anarchist frenzy is exactly how I do things with weapons like the hailstorm. Buddy I absolutely know how some dps builds are major glass cannons as I've use many over my nearly 6300hrs of most screwing around and testing random stuff out like a dps pistol build with no gunslinger skills used.
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