Thank you, when you have to drive 30 miles into town 60 miles round trip to have a hose made this is far the best solution out there. Again thanks for the video and information.
Wee have a Hitachi 300 excavator blew up a hydraulic line and went to Napa Total cost some tools, hydraulic oil and hose $650 just last week Definite like the jig gotta get one done 👍
Nice work. I hear you say that your welder's to small to weld that base plate. I reckon that if you grooved the edges and ran a few beads, its not going to fall apart. You'll get enough penetration to make a solid connection. Having said that, being able to disassemble the device is going to make it easier to transport and store. Keep up the good work. 👍
Good stuff! I love this sort of make it work / making do, DYI videos. Saving money and being self-reliant, self-sufficient is where it's at. Thanks for sharing
Good morning, just saw your video on how you crimp your hydraulic hoses on your workshop press. I have a workshop press and I will do research on eBay about that type of die you have. Very helpful info. Thanks.
Great video, I've learned a lot from your channel, thanks for posting! I bought all my replacement hoses from my local Napa, a bit expensive but it was the only choice at the time. I would like to build a press like yours in the future!
Great job on the hose crimper! I have a late 70's Case 580c loader/excavator that needs its 3/4 and 1" lines replaced. I'll be doing something similar to your jig. Subbed.
There's a metal supply in our town that has a plasma cutter cnc machine service, a place that that might be able to makeup die's. I had them do some custom parts for me and i designed & picked out the style on their computer in their office, then he loaded the plate steel and made the 4 parts for less than $20. He said that cnc machine can plasma cut up to 14" thick steel plate. It's basically a plasma cutter zip tied to a cnc. I used to always have the john deere dealership makeup all my hoses because they last forever, might be 5000 or more psi hose. Now they're too expensive so i have the feed co-op make them but the quality of hose is not the best. Good video series here.
jasonmushersee A cnc will put me to shame! You can get that metal supply company to make you a much more professional product with a lot less hassle and money too!. It sounds like a winner to me.
www.discounthydraulichose.com/product_p/d100dies.htm I got the compression ring off of a D100 hose crimper. You can call DHH and ask them to sell you one. Make sure you get a compression ring that is compatible with the dies that you are going to use.
rchopp Thanks. I think that for most people, including myself(up until now), crimping was some kind of mysterious trade secret shrouded in darkness. I hope to do a review on the plasma cutter when I get a few more miles on it.
Good stuff! I think I'll pretty much copy and use a pusher weighted enough to hold it in place til I get it movin. I've got 3 Holmes wrecker beds from the early 80's to get going with bookoos of 3/8 fittings. THANKS
You went through a great deal of detail but did not say where you got the forcing cone and the die. Dies are common to find and buy but I have not seen a forcing cone for sale used. Where did you get the forcing cone?
+sequoyah59 No. There are several different ways that you can go. Different manufactures use different options and individual compression rings/dies. My crimping rig(D100 dies and D100 compression ring) is good up to 1 inch for braided hose. I can not presently crimp 1 inch W series yet or the larger 1 1/4, 1 1/2 or the 2 inch with what I have. #1 what size/type of hoses are you wanting to crimp? #2 If you want to start crimping hoses larger than 1 inch may need a special double angle die and/or a special compression ring. #3 if you go to the product literature page and click on "crimp specifications for hydraulic hose and fittings" the chart will show you what type/size of dies you are interested and if a special compression ring is needed for the type/size of hose that you are wanting to crimp. #4 You will have to call DHH and talk to someone in sales about the type of compression ring that you might want to use for your particular application. The compression rings are not listed on the their page that I know of.
+homesteadprepper I've made hose for a long time but never owned a crimper. The thing I need to know is did the forcing cone (what you call the compression ring or die ring) come with the die (Discount does not say) and if it did not come with the die where did you get it? Forcing cones are usually part of the crimping machine and the same cone is used with every die available for the machine. Thanks for your forbearance.
TexasPrepper2 Thanks. Answers: Eastwood Versa 60. Yes. 50 amp/240 volt and up to 65 psi but, I am not sure of the cfm. I am planning to do a review. I got it back in Nov. 2014 but, I wanted to use it for a while to see how it would hold together. 3 year warranty, cuts up to 7/8 steel, Eastwood's reputation and a lot of good reviews is what sold me.
Their will be no problem with crimping 2 wire hoses up to 3/8". Crimping a 1/2" hose may be just at the limits of a 20 ton force. Larger hoses will require larger crimping forces. And btw, using an ample amount of lube on the dies and compression ring, go a long way.
@@homesteadprepper great to know. This method will really save me a lot of money if I can land a backhoe that needs restoring for my homestead. The hydraulic lines are my biggest anxiety point.
Thanks for the video. Would be nice to see the link to where one would be able to buy the die and that shell going over the die. For the hydraulic bottle, I think the bottom is way over engineered. Not to criticized, but to give hint to others, when they do it. It doesn't need to be that thick nor big. Just enough for the bottom of the bottle, which was cut out. The rest are just for alignment purposes (mostly). You can also just put 5 bolts around it, vs cutting a hole so it doesn't move. For cutting the bottom, you can use a carbide high speed tool vs a file and it saves some work.
@@homesteadprepper thanks for responding. I am searching ebay for the correct compression ring and die. I am looking at some Eaton Weatherhead components. At a quote of $60 per hose this devise is going to get made. Thanks for the video. I do not see how some cheap crimpers are not being built and sold.
I just went to the DHH website, and for a compression ring and die... it's about $500 ... would that be about what you spent for a die and ring? I've got everything else, but the time and effort to build is also worth something. Thinking that if I had a $1000used crimper it might just be easier in the long run. I know time is money for most... so, I've got to weigh the pros and cons I guess. I too have an old tractor. A 1967 Case 580 Construction King. It's a backhoe or gannon. The attachments come off and go on in less than 20min. Love this thing, as it's two tractors in one. BUT... I'm about to start replacing hoses and found your DIY crimper idea. ...so, here we go!! ;)
I paid $170 for the comp ring and @$189 for the die, when this vid was made(D100). By all means, if you can score a used crimper with dies for the right price, then that is the way to go. When I decided I wanted to make my own hoses, used crimpers with dies were way out of the ball park in price or just plain not available.
Fairplay bud, after all these years I can't really find any other videos on this subject as a DIY venture. I have a press so I want to go down this route. If anybody knows any other good press methods please send me a link thanks
+mike griffis My suggestion is to call Discount Hydraulic Hose and talk to someone in sales. You have to get a matching die and ring. When I called, they were very helpful.
hello friend I was watching a video your very good self about hose crimpers only that comes to mita of how and the system the machine I need help because I'm going to do one and I want to know the materials that I need well
Thank you, when you have to drive 30 miles into town 60 miles round trip to have a hose made this is far the best solution out there. Again thanks for the video and information.
Wee have a Hitachi 300 excavator blew up a hydraulic line and went to Napa
Total cost some tools, hydraulic oil and hose $650 just last week
Definite like the jig gotta get one done 👍
@3:25 I heard, "and then I needed something for motivation, which a bottle-of-Jack seemed like the logical alternative" 🤣
Nice work.
I hear you say that your welder's to small to weld that base plate. I reckon that if you grooved the edges and ran a few beads, its not going to fall apart. You'll get enough penetration to make a solid connection. Having said that, being able to disassemble the device is going to make it easier to transport and store.
Keep up the good work. 👍
Good stuff! I love this sort of make it work / making do, DYI videos. Saving money and being self-reliant, self-sufficient is where it's at. Thanks for sharing
TheRealWorldPrepper Thanks. I am definitely right there with you, saving the money and being prepped.
Excellent video, I never seen a hose die up close and how it works, thanks for posting I might try to make one at my OWN risk.............
thanks , 73 yr. old but too eager to learn, pls. teach somomore.
Good morning, just saw your video on how you crimp your hydraulic hoses on your workshop press. I have a workshop press and I will do research on eBay about that type of die you have. Very helpful info. Thanks.
Great video, I've learned a lot from your channel, thanks for posting! I bought all my replacement hoses from my local Napa, a bit expensive but it was the only choice at the time. I would like to build a press like yours in the future!
Playgun10 Thank you. Same here, I had to pay the money to have some made a while back.
I'll be looking forward to your build.
Where did you get your die and ring? is it for gates or weatherhead?
You need an air grinder and carbide burrs. I've done a lot of carving with those.
Great job on the hose crimper! I have a late 70's Case 580c loader/excavator that needs its 3/4 and 1" lines replaced. I'll be doing something similar to your jig. Subbed.
Wow great info here I am charged $90 NZD for one 50cm 3/8" line for a turbo (second time now) I may do this in future
There's a metal supply in our town that has a plasma cutter cnc machine service, a place that that might be able to makeup die's. I had them do some custom parts for me and i designed & picked out the style on their computer in their office, then he loaded the plate steel and made the 4 parts for less than $20. He said that cnc machine can plasma cut up to 14" thick steel plate. It's basically a plasma cutter zip tied to a cnc. I used to always have the john deere dealership makeup all my hoses because they last forever, might be 5000 or more psi hose. Now they're too expensive so i have the feed co-op make them but the quality of hose is not the best. Good video series here.
jasonmushersee A cnc will put me to shame! You can get that metal supply company to make you a much more professional product with a lot less hassle and money too!. It sounds like a winner to me.
Thanks for the video, it would be a big help if you could let me know what brand die and compression ring you used. Thanks for any help.
www.discounthydraulichose.com/product_p/d100dies.htm
I got the compression ring off of a D100 hose crimper. You can call DHH and ask them to sell you one.
Make sure you get a compression ring that is compatible with the dies that you are going to use.
Thanks for the explanation...well done. Man...that plasma cutter is impressive.
boat6868 Thanks. I will do a review after a few more months of using it.
Nice job, I would have thought the die unit would have been more complicated. That plasma unit sure beats a torch it's on my wants list for sure..
rchopp Thanks. I think that for most people, including myself(up until now), crimping was some kind of mysterious trade secret shrouded in darkness. I hope to do a review on the plasma cutter when I get a few more miles on it.
Good stuff! I think I'll pretty much copy and use a pusher weighted enough to hold it in place til I get it movin. I've got 3 Holmes wrecker beds from the early 80's to get going with bookoos of 3/8 fittings. THANKS
You went through a great deal of detail but did not say where you got the forcing cone and the die. Dies are common to find and buy but I have not seen a forcing cone for sale used. Where did you get the forcing cone?
+sequoyah59 www.discounthydraulichose.com/default.asp
+homesteadprepper Sorry, I see and have seen the dies but not the cones. Do the dies come with a forcing cone?
+sequoyah59 No. There are several different ways that you can go.
Different manufactures use different options and individual compression rings/dies.
My crimping rig(D100 dies and D100 compression ring) is good up to 1 inch for braided hose. I can not presently crimp 1 inch W series yet or the larger 1 1/4, 1 1/2 or the 2 inch with what I have.
#1 what size/type of hoses are you wanting to crimp?
#2 If you want to start crimping hoses larger than 1 inch may need a special double angle die and/or a special compression ring.
#3 if you go to the product literature page and click on "crimp specifications for hydraulic hose and fittings" the chart will show you what type/size of dies you are interested and if a special compression ring is needed for the type/size of hose that you are wanting to crimp.
#4 You will have to call DHH and talk to someone in sales about the type of compression ring that you might want to use for your particular application. The compression rings are not listed on the their page that I know of.
+homesteadprepper I've made hose for a long time but never owned a crimper. The thing I need to know is did the forcing cone (what you call the compression ring or die ring) come with the die (Discount does not say) and if it did not come with the die where did you get it? Forcing cones are usually part of the crimping machine and the same cone is used with every die available for the machine. Thanks for your forbearance.
+sequoyah59 It did not come with the die. I purchased it from DHH.
Nice video.
Questions:
What brand plasma cutter do you have?
Do you like it?
What amps are needed and PSI... to run it?
I WANT ONE !!
TexasPrepper2 Thanks.
Answers:
Eastwood Versa 60.
Yes.
50 amp/240 volt and up to 65 psi but, I am not sure of the cfm.
I am planning to do a review. I got it back in Nov. 2014 but, I wanted to use it for a while to see how it would hold together. 3 year warranty, cuts up to 7/8 steel, Eastwood's reputation and a lot of good reviews is what sold me.
I could not see why you needed that bottle jack shape hole in the plate, could you not just bolt some clamps to hold the jack in place?
Please where can i get the dies and cone? I have all the other parts. Thanks
@@stno1976 I got the pusher and the dies from Discount Hydraulic Hose.
Can you send me the place where you got the dies from thanks
www.discounthydraulichose.com/d100d165-dies.html
Thank you for putting this on the web. Hydraulic hoses are just too expensive. Do you think a 20 ton HF press would apply enough force>?
Their will be no problem with crimping 2 wire hoses up to 3/8". Crimping a 1/2" hose may be just at the limits of a 20 ton force. Larger hoses will require larger crimping forces. And btw, using an ample amount of lube on the dies and compression ring, go a long way.
How have the hoses faired?
It has been almost 8 years and the hoses I made for my tractor are still holding up well.
@@homesteadprepper great to know. This method will really save me a lot of money if I can land a backhoe that needs restoring for my homestead. The hydraulic lines are my biggest anxiety point.
I can see that the jaws are retained in two semi circle rings, how do they move in to crimp the hose?
Thanks for the video. Would be nice to see the link to where one would be able to buy the die and that shell going over the die.
For the hydraulic bottle, I think the bottom is way over engineered. Not to criticized, but to give hint to others, when they do it. It doesn't need to be that thick nor big. Just enough for the bottom of the bottle, which was cut out. The rest are just for alignment purposes (mostly). You can also just put 5 bolts around it, vs cutting a hole so it doesn't move.
For cutting the bottom, you can use a carbide high speed tool vs a file and it saves some work.
Where'd you get the dies?
I used the D100 dies and die ring: www.discounthydraulichose.com/hydraulic-hose-crimpers-37465.html
Where did you find 3/4" plate for $28 dollars?
How are you hoses holding up 5 years later?
They are still working great!
@@homesteadprepper thanks for responding. I am searching ebay for the correct compression ring and die. I am looking at some Eaton Weatherhead components. At a quote of $60 per hose this devise is going to get made. Thanks for the video. I do not see how some cheap crimpers are not being built and sold.
I just went to the DHH website, and for a compression ring and die... it's about $500
... would that be about what you spent for a die and ring?
I've got everything else, but the time and effort to build is also worth something. Thinking that if I had a $1000used crimper it might just be easier in the long run. I know time is money for most... so, I've got to weigh the pros and cons I guess.
I too have an old tractor. A 1967 Case 580 Construction King. It's a backhoe or gannon. The attachments come off and go on in less than 20min. Love this thing, as it's two tractors in one. BUT... I'm about to start replacing hoses and found your DIY crimper idea. ...so, here we go!! ;)
I paid $170 for the comp ring and @$189 for the die, when this vid was made(D100). By all means, if you can score a used crimper with dies for the right price, then that is the way to go. When I decided I wanted to make my own hoses, used crimpers with dies were way out of the ball park in price or just plain not available.
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great vid, now , if i can only de-clutter the %$#!! in the barn , gotta get the rare, priceless ... horizontal surfaces !!!
Fairplay bud, after all these years I can't really find any other videos on this subject as a DIY venture. I have a press so I want to go down this route. If anybody knows any other good press methods please send me a link thanks
where did you get the compression ring and die?
+mike griffis www.discounthydraulichose.com/default.asp
+homesteadprepper i'm having trouble finding the compression ring
+mike griffis My suggestion is to call Discount Hydraulic Hose and talk to someone in sales. You have to get a matching die and ring. When I called, they were very helpful.
did he say "a bottle of Jack for a motivator"?
+louie louie That's what I was thinking ! LOL
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What fancy calculations are you doing with that slide rule?
I was attempting to formulate the existence of tertiary boundaries that reside in sub space domains.
hello friend I want to ask you a question where you bought what tightens the dice and the tube of the dice
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hello friend I was watching a video your very good self about hose crimpers only that comes to mita of how and the system the machine I need help because I'm going to do one and I want to know the materials that I need well
What model cutter do you have?
buzzsah It is the Eastwood Versa 60.
homesteadprepper Thanks, I have been looking at the Eastwood as well as the Lincoln. O well. The Eastwood gives more for the buck.
Good for u for dropping the info
Good by "ADIOS" hydraulic hose makers & prices.
You need a arc welder.
👍
Jesus all that video and not one hose crimped
Less talking more doing would make a better video people got enough common sense to see you but I know what you're doing