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It’s honestly bizarre how FNF managed to gain the type of community that it has now. It was literally made to serve as both a blatant sex joke as well as an homage to Newgrounds and it’s niche, edgy, and mature style of content. It’s not really something kids should be exposed to in the first place, yet here we are.
@@cactuss33ds more apps, bigger and easier ways to connect with people. It's almost impossible to stop now. RUclips is doing well with the kids mode but still it just happens man
@@cactuss33ds It definitely was. I know of lots of people that saw grooming on platforms like Kik and Minecraft servers, among others. Any place with a concentration of kids and young teens with minimal moderation is going to be a p3 d0 haven. It's just more documented nowadays.
As a longtime Newgrounder, seeing FNF stray so far from its humble beginnings hurts my heart. Pico and the Tankmen being introduced to the game was such a cool and nostalgic surprise.
I'm waiting for FNF's full release after its successful crowd funding campaign. I have respect for the first couple of mods like Tricky and Static and the original songs, however everything I liked got ruined by fans. The original game, intended to have dirty origins, was polished for preschoolers. Mods stirred more drama, tumblr OCs, more mods for kid gaming trends than anything worth playing, and rhythm game tryhards than fun. Newgrounds became a host for the FNF fandom rather than a revival. And streamers highlighted and catalysed all these problems. If you want to still enjoy this game, ignore the "fan"dom.
When the game became popular, I was so excited soley because of the crossover aspect. Like "Nice, everyone's hyped to see new weeks! Can't wait to see what Newgrounds characters are next like ENA, Madness and Eddsworld."
All of these situations are a culmination of several things: parents not supervising their children, sexual perversion and degeneracy becoming normalized. It's insane how absolutely disgusting some of these situations are, if the same things were to happen 10 to 20 years ago these people would be publicly shunned and humiliated rightfully so.
It's so weird man. Teens did not try to share fetishes with others before. What's the most surprising about all these videos are how young all involved are. This is all new and never happened before social media.
I legit feel bad for Dave (PhantomArcade) for not realizing how chaotic this franchise would've gotten. I remember watching him be a guest on Oneyplays, and it's clear that his humor is aimed towards adults, which was also apparent with the game he made. I also remember seeing this game blowing up on newgrounds, crazier times honestly lol.
@xX_BugC0re3_Xx he's really cryptic when he talks about the game. If I remember correctly in that recent Resident Evil letsplay he was in, he tells Oney that he treads lightly on the lore or even the game itself because fans will immediately claim is as canon/official.
Dave should have included his crazy taxi story to ward off people from the game. Seriously though, I'm glad he found a huge success but the shit that came along fucking sucks
It's weird to me that a 12-year-old is allowed to livestream at all. This whole event gives me Jessie Slaughter vibes where supervision was needed, but never given.
Children should never be content creators. Them being allowed to use the platforms to view memes and stuff is fine, but creating videos should be a 16+ or get banned sort of deal.
@@thatoneguy33198 That seems a little bit over the top, of course children making videos can be a huge liability but i think its better for 13+ and while 13 year olds and anyone around that age can be extremely stupid that doesn’t necessarily mean they would do something to the extent of what the 12 year old did
It's a good idea to keep kids supervised over the internet, but kids are smart. They'll find any and every way to evade supervision, especially restrictions
@@sayounsang Children are not smart, they are very dumb, but children are clever and like monkeys can figure out how to workaround restrictions, if they were smart, they would never have gotten into whatever trouble there was.
I always see this circle: •a good game with massive fanbases that have a good storyline and/or very easy to make your own canon • had a lot of minor fans playing said game • had a lot of player-made creations • here comes the p3dos and the edgy kids flocking in likes flies • said fanbase is in ruins and will recreate from ground up Rinse and repeat
@@personbadatgames Kinda. The one thing that pushed UT into its grave at Mt. Ebott was how it was one of the first games on Windows 10 (it released the same year, and probably the same month and day too) and how easy it was to access it. And, the fluff that was presented above started to form.
Listen, I'm not trying to be an ass, but I think the 12-year-old being bullied and being on discord peeing themselves is a lot more concerning to me than whether their drawing was "underage"or not.
Bro fr, I honestly truly don’t think bbpanzu meant any harm, he was simply embracing the cringe of being a fangirl/self insert despite the community being filled with adults , for some reason people have an immediate hate towards “cringe” that children usually post even though there’s nothing wrong with it. I’m really glad they left the community though, it was not safe for a child
The main problem is that the game is obviously intended for adults (it's on Newgrounds after all), yet it's fanbases consists almost entirely of preteens.
@@fleasy4393 newgrounds went from a big ol community of dedicated people making stuff for the website to just kids acting like they own the damn site because of one joke rhythm game for adults that blew up, i miss old newgrounds
i mean she was sending gore and porn to other minors and she also pissed live on camera so if it showed anything thats cp right there both sides are disappointments fr
A 12 year old getting harassed by thousands of degenerate overnight having a mental breakdown because they can't deal with it? Totally her fault according to @@GODEATER2
ever since Senpai came to the game, i feel like basically every fanmod started trying to copy it by having the opponent get more "evil" and copypasta-y mode between the stages also as a longtime user of NG, its feels surreal to see characters that represent the site like pico, tankmen etc being soo well known now for completly different reasons
Right! Been on new grounds since before RUclips and it’s strange that ppl only know tankman because of FNF. Makes me feel old as hell even though I’m only 23
Seeing the Madness Combat fandom basically just become an extension of... whatever the fuck you'd even call this has been the most depressing shit I've seen in a while.
The fact that 4chan didn’t actually do anything bad in this story is hilarious. They just made a mod and one guy said “yea, lemme put this bad image in here”
@MR Hamster 4chan isn't twitter. Messed up crap happens there but they are honestly not "the hivemind of pure evil of the mainstream internet" as some people seem to believe to this day.
It is rumored that they put the image to get a mod cancelled speedrun or is that some anonymous uploaded the mod to gamebanana without their consent so they have to get rid of it
Yeah where is this child’s parents at? Regardless if the parents know about the livestream or not (they should obviously) if a child that’s 12 is peeing that’s not in a toilet, they need some help.
hey i used to be amoraltra's upperclassman in high school and in our art club. it's so fucking dystopian that ive heard about what happened to him in a video about fnf creeps to listen to when im doing uni work... i used to be so impressed with his art and his social media presence back in high school and was really nice to him. ive never thought that he would end up being... like that. im literally shaking and in tears right now holy shit
@@probablyjinxed though i didnt spend much time with him since i was already a senior when he got in, the last time i met him was at 2019 when i already graduated but i went back to my hs as the alumnus representative of my art club for our school's club exhibition. i cant remember what month it was but the fact that he was alr texting nsfw things to minors (as a minor himself back then) when i last met him made me genuinely sick. but hey, me and my friend who used to be in the same art club exchanged horrified looks because of this video and had our fun making fun of the stupid fact that we heard of this news through a video about fnf. though im glad that he quit the internet and is getting the help he needs
the saddest part about fnf's fan base is easily how it was literally never meant for kids in the first place. The creators had a sense of humor clearly aimed at adults and and teens, and it shows as the game he made is full of it. Not only that, the site it's made on, newgrounds, is nowhere near a place for children. Unfortunately, because of this Game's community, it's full of them. I am not sure how kids were ever attracted to it in the first place but it's really sad. The whole community is a great example of why children should never be allowed on the internet. replies are a Hellscape don't read them
People who make comments like this act as if Newgrounds wasn't full of edgy 13 to 16 year olds who had unsupervised internet access. I used to watch the hell out of edgy animations on Newgrounds when I was like, 12. Not that I necessarily disagree, I think the game would've been better off if kids didn't infest the community, but it's just such a silly remark to make.
It was easy to tell phantomarcade really didn't like what his fanbase was becoming when the game picked up steam. I feel as bad for the devs as I do the people harmed by the weird shit that happens in the fandom, the game is still great and their work shouldn't be dragged down by a bunch of assholes using it to take advantage of vulnerable people or promote their own terrible choices
@@rizkiramadhan9266 Same reason kids flocked to sonic.exe or fnaf; they think it's "mature", which in turn makes them feel mature. They want to feel like they're grown, which really just makes them look more childish. So by playing or watching these "adult" things, they feel like they're older than they care to admit. I used to be the exact same way when I was 9-14 💀
Most people got onto newgrounds around middle school and older, and which around the 12 year range. You have bright expressive cartoon characters and slightly edgy situations and scenarios; it attracts this kind of fanbase. You see it all the time with stuff like FNAF and sonic; it acts as a gateway to explore these darker themes and ideas while still having a cutesy "safe" base in the form of cartoon characters. You would have to be severly sheltered to just never come across this stuff at this point. What's changed nowadays is that Discord, being an unregulated chatting tool, makes it easy to kids who don't know any better to come across and interact with people that don't have the best intentions in mind, and harder still to keep records of.
As a grown-ass man who grew up on Newgrounds, I thought the game was just a celebration of the website, what the hell is up with the influx of OCs that turn into reality-bending demons in a rap competition?
i can't stand that game, the guys who made the game are good people but the game and fanbase just took a huge fuckin shit on the website and ruined it for me. and thanks to flash being shut down for some security reason and newground's emulator being shit, i kinda don't wanna be on that website anymore
As a minor, I am sometimes in fear of revealing my face. It's honestly disgusting how pedos and groomers like this can thrive on the internet, and kids can lie about their age.
Never reveal your face on the internet even if you're an adult. You don't know when will some random crazy bastards start to dox you due to whatever reason. Better safe then sorry.
I funded the Kickstarter, been following since it’s really early versions, and loved what was brought from the modding community. It’s a shame that weirdos and children are drawn to the game/fandom bc even at first glance that’s a really bad mix
it's funny how out of all the stories in this video, the one that didn't involve literal minors was the story involving a 4channer making something as intentionally edgy, shocking and offensive as possible to get it off of Gamebanana.
Literally making something that does what the original game does, paying homage to that kind of content from back in the day. The game does it with NG and the mod did it for 4chan, that shit would be expected from there but people were still comically shocked? We all should've had a big laugh when that was found but people freaked out instead. Somehow this game cultivated an immature, overly sensitive, child fanbase that pushed out and gatekeeps away the audience that the game was supposed to be MADE FOR.
4chan is the hydrothermal vent of the internet. It’s chaotic, but sometimes creates pinnacles of internet culture like SCP, the backrooms, troll face, and slender man.
Letting children use the internet WITHOUT SUPERVISION / MODERATION is a bad idea. Oh yeah, children entering awful fandoms without being aware and acknoledge it are also a really bad idea too, glad there are youtubers like turkey tom on the internet.
@@MarsMakes same Makes me also kinda upset that I got to talk to her at the time, and they seemed pretty cool If only I knew how fucked up she was to those people.
It's not that everyone forgave her, it just that her drama at the time was getting noticed by very little people. After that she also changed her name to hide her past, so there not many people know what she have done and what she used to be. The people who do know about what she done, of course will never forgave her and just tried to not get involved with her anymore.
@@seasonseason154 ironically South park fans are one of the most unnecessarily sensitive people I've met and I can confirm that a larger than expected portion of them are children, it just a clear indication of neglect
@@the_mariocrafter nah, fnf base game wasnt that mature cause the original game did not have much interactions or cutscenes, but the base game is still more mature than the mods
Also with the KitsuneSkulls situation, people leaving the community isnt rare. The community is so toxic that its just not even known for the good part, its mainly known for its bad part.
Yeah I was saying throughout that part that I think it should definitely not be squarely on his shoulders since Sky had traction before the mod even showed up and undoubtably the adult portion of the community at least somewhat picked up on that before he even did anything felt it was unfair that he was the scapegoat for everything that happened
I know my younger cousins got pretty into the game. Ages as low as 6. They like the catchy songs and think the animations are cool. They like taking on more difficult songs and feel cool if they can actually beat them. Fortunately they didn’t really engage with the community aspect, they just liked the games and the mods and their interest died out after the next big thing popped up. I can see what would draw children toward the game, even if it’s not made for them.
Tom, you should definitely cover the osu! degenerates. That community is FULL of potential content. Anyone who is remotely part of the community will know this.
@PhantomLee Oklahoma State University? I get a bunch of universities, Ohio football, something about Ohio again, and some musical rhythm game thing. I'm assuming it's the latter.
@@SpiltBowlOfCerealAnd plenty of nonfamous people as well. It's not fame that makes them do this, it's fame that gives them access to more kids to be able to do it.
We need to decrease how open people are about their fetishism, its too normalized. Shit like these keeps happening. This is one of the most disturbing videos on the channel and its from a community full of children and young teens. Also the game is shit.
It is kind of a risky one, though. If you gonna take a shot at someone, you better make sure they're actually guilty of said things. Which is getting harder & harder as people keep making false evidence & false claims to nail someone they want out of their way.
@@killerbug05gonna be honest, a lot of the commentary guys are dickwads who just want to be assholes for a reason. Just my opinion but I like to stray away from that community from how much of a downer it is
There are some overprotective parents who WON"t let their kids hang out with friends after school.....so online stuff is basically all they can do doing their free time.
It’s always the fun fan bases that ends up being taken over by kids and in turn weirdos. Like shit there’s more to life then having a single IP as your one personality
The same thing happens in the gacha community as well... I had to deal with a pedophile, I was not a victim but sadly my online sister was... He almost made me self harm and my sister had suicidal thoughts because of him I got so mad that I gave him death threats... And told him to go to hell... I hated myself for that... He called me evil and said that he thought I was a kind person And days ago, an event triggered that memory and it led me to self-harm...the drama was over at the time but still...
Children being near FNF is a problem in it of itself. Since it's a giant love letter to Newgrounds, it has a crap load of edgy and suggestive content. Every time a incident like this happens, just makes me feel like there need to be a child only form of internet. Parents need to keep an eye on what their kids are doing and talk to them about potential dangers online. I'm tired of mentally deranged individuals being around minors.
Newgrounds was pretty much built off the back off children, tbh. Seems to me like all the people who got famous off of Newgrounds and were major players in its culture were child animators trying to get into creative fields early. And as far as I've seen, children today are even edgier than they were back then.
I remember a kid being shocked Pico was a "Kid using gun in School", when in reality he was killing kids using gun in School Goes to show how ditched FNF kids from the actual core game
This entire problem could've been entirely avoided if they had made this game closed source, but the devs decided to be nice and make it open This is why we don't get nice things
I don't think it was the mods problem, I think it's because of the fact the people in the community are scum. They're a lot of great people with modded communities, it's just fnf attracted the wrong and worst people ever.
Imagine one’s bloodline going through decades upon decades of struggle and torment, disease, war, poverty, death, and suffering, trying to make ends meet so your children could have a better future, squirming under the weight of the world as it spins endlessly, all for the one who beholds the bloodline to have their life be shattered from some character from a rhythm game, that doesn’t even exist in canon
@@x_VineM_x Products with recognisable, marketable characters, and cartoony or unique artstyles (regardless of content sometimes) tend to attract kids. This in turn, attracts predators. FNaF, BatIM, Cuphead, Hello Neighbour, Baldy's Basics, Undertale. The list goes on and they all have the same deal of having recognisable (fanart-able) characters.
@@DanimationYT I’m just not sold on this whole “designed to attract kids” narrative going around lately. It would be like saying “Mac and cheese is designed to attract kids because it’s simple.” I don’t think artists/companies develop things like this to specifically attract children, it just so happens to because the designs are appealing in general. And what “children’s media” doesn’t have a large, adult fan base these days? Look at Bronies. Once Hasbro/Hub found out they were driving the shows views/sales, they started to cater towards them (canonizing fan jokes, marketing towards them specifically, etc.) It’s not that kids like the designs, it’s that humans like them and some of them happen to be kids
Man, i made the right choice to never involve myself with online communities/fandoms in general, no matter how niche they are. Enjoying things on my own or my small circle of irl friends is plenty enough. All this jazz about leaked private text messages, mental breakdowns, writing 40 pages about just how messed up a single individual is, doxxing, going back and forth who gets supported and who gets cancelled. It is all so tiring at this point. I burned myself too once, back when i was part of the Smash community for a few years. Those brain cells will be lost forever.
I wholeheartedly agree. Though I used to be in mainstream fandoms, I dont ever consider going back into ANY because of what shitstorm could happen. You couldn't have said it any better.
Yhea Im in various fandoms online, I can confirm. It is exhausting to say the least. Especially ship wars. But most part they're chill depending on the fandom. 😳
My fandom interests are from the old media: DC Comics, Star Trek, and Doctor Who and you can still dip a toe into those and come away relatively unscathed. Fans there can still be fans of those things and not make them the center of their identity. That doesn't mean there aren't still weirdos though but they're easy to avoid. Sports fandoms are the least strange of all. The MMA fandom is probably the least toxic of all; probably because we're watching even the people we don't like getting kicked in the face. That's worthy of respect no matter how big an asshole someone is. Motorsports fans get carried away sometimes as can followers of football and soccer. The most you're going to see are stupid posts whining about "bias" and shitposts designed to start flame wars. None of the weird psychological and sexual stuff that goes down in other fandoms though.
Bro I was so confused on the kodomodachi part cuz at the beginning they said chapter 5 v tan incident and it was just the kodomo incident xdxd I was waiting for v tan to show up then I realized maybe the creator probably switched the titles up
Unfortunately its double standards. Some people just have a complete mental bias, that prevents them from taking logical and effective action against women. It's real.
I mean women are the ones that get fucked while men are doing the fucking. Men have penises. So it makes sense from a physiological/psychological perspective why humans see men as predators. In many cultures a boy who fucks a woman becomes a man.
21:49 god this breaks my heart. made me tear up a little as a victim of grooming myself because this was exactly how i felt. you can hear her voice breaking and god i hope shes doing ok now
Oh my god dude. Underage nonsense, peeing, self harm, character OC obsessions, dude this is a rhythm game. Why are people so unhinged? ITS A RHYTHM GAME. Just enjoy it and then go outside! Love the video, subject matter just gives me such little hope for humanity.
@@formarotica yeah, and usually, going outside isnt safe for some people. i have friends that live in dangerous neighborhoods, like hawthorne minnesota or chicago, and sometimes, their parents dont let them hang out.
@@formarotica and parents sometimes dont let their kids go out. when i was younger, my stepmom never really let me hang out with friends because there was no time to take me to those places since she was constantly working. i wouldnt go out to those big places to hang out anyways bc of my trauma
A guy I knew in school was a FnF mod dev. He would not only steal assets and sometimes entire mods and call them his own, but also was known for getting the police involved on two accounts of suspected pedophilia.
I used to be part of a the FNF Community. I didn't use Twitter, but I always was listening to the "news channels" for FNF. When the rise of pedos began to start, I didn't know what to say. Then, the big mod creators became pedos. AmorAltra and multiple other mods. Sonic EXE. was the last straw. I basically just dipped, and never said a word. Then, I realized there was even drama about the Kickstarter. I really am just sad FNF had to go this way, with there being drama left and right.
@@SpringyGirl69 this is one of the most obscure, niche communities out there in terms of things he's covered. the amount of time and effort it takes to gather all of this information, understand it well enough AND then edit it all together into a 40+ min mini doc is absolutely incredible. The quality is insane. They may as well be hours apart from each other in terms of upload timing because the quality only gets better and better.
The thing that concers me the most about this is not the adult fanart, not trying to make their own versions of the character, but only the harassment and bullying of a minor to a point where she broke down fully. I feel like this is just the worst thing that has come out of this as that's a thing this girl will never forget in her life and will forever haunt her
same, like honestyl it's just a stupid drawing who gives a fk is not even real, but the actual real girl got damaged and when that happenned people straight up didn't care and that was disgusting
@@ironmaster6496 theres adults on the internet that get mad if kids are just minding their own business on there, so they decide to bully and harass them simply because they hate them. its disgusting
The clip at around 2:47 reminds me of some of those Sans Fangirl videos from when Undertale was really popular, you probably know the ones I'm talking about
Bruh this shit is so fucking wild. I loved this game. I'm 27 now and I remember old new grounds so this game was very magic to me and I had no idea how wild it had gotten and so many kids jumped on it. First kids shouldn't be playing this dam game but than again kids are wonderful at getting into shit they shouldn't and still remember that akward moment I joined a FNF group thinking it would be cool to talk about the old days of new grounds and just saw kids fucking everywhere. Talking about there OCS fanships etc etc it was wild. I left in the first hour.
man i feel ya. there is a lot of stuff i really love but i don't interact with the communities at all because they're either 1) unrelatable/full of kids or 2) straight-up terrifying
@@mw6ngi0 I randomly saw the game in my recommendations, it looked pretty lit so that's why I joined I never interacted with discord or something I guess lol
Kids shouldn't be on the internet. Point blank period. Parents, do your jobs so you're not letting your kids get any harm or feelings hurt. Wtf is wrong with you parents who think you have to be a friend instead of a parent. Omfg...
I'm so tired of kinks and fetishes bleeding into every public space. It's great that you feel comfortable with your sexuality, but there's a time and place to talk about it and ,99% of the time it isn't it
It always surprised me how much of the fanbase is children, not even teens just, actual small children, I've seen small kids wearing bootleg fnf merch. It weirds me mostly because the game although is not really THAT explicit, is still thought out to be for teens and up audiences I think, I mean the main objective of the game is that gf and bf want some "alone time". I wonder that had the developers finished that scrapped intro animation they mentioned once on stream things might have been a bit different
@@cubeman9766 fnaf didn't start out with that though. there were a lot of children who were into that, but they grew up. case in point: my little brother. that dude was into fnaf since like age 7-8, and now he's nearly 15.
@@howtoavenge1016 I was with FNaF since early highschool, around 13 (21 now). The fanbase started growing up a little bit I think and as newer stuff came out, the kiddies migrated to that instead although an impression was left on the franchise ever since then that the games should appeal to children for some reason (despite the dark premise) so that's ruined it a little bit in my eyes. The thing about these fanbases (coming from personal experience(regrettably)), is that they usually are made up of outsiders or people who struggle socially and often times, that means young teens and preteens who don't fit in or don't know who they are yet. These people latch onto things that they enjoy and have growing communities so they can fit in and be part of a larger space that they can interact with and meet people that share the interest. The issue is that if they can't find anything like that IRL then they become obsessive about it and since they don't have much of an identity yet, they start basing their identity on that community and interest. Criticism on that thing become attacks on them as a person, they become sheltered and sensitive and it's just a slippery slope. Many grow up and out of that mentality and if they choose to stay a part of that community or interest then it just becomes a thing that they like rather than a personality-defining trait. FNF's community is in that same boat right now. A couple years time it may change.
holy crap thank you so much for talking about mirth. used to be a subscriber for hers, found out that she was a freak as it happened, and its always been bothering me that it just got swept under the rug and her account is still growing. hopefully with your video people will start talking more about what she's done and she won't get away with it.
I remember when FNF was still fairly new. It was honestly nice, especially when Whitty came around. When I heard about the Sky mod. I immediately knew the golden days were over.
The problem is the fact that a majority of people wouldnt think of NSFW work while making something at first, so blaming bbpantsu for not realizing that is like blaming SEGA for how the fanbase acts.
I think it also shows that people don’t know what a pedophile is, or what grooming is. A 17 year old dating a 14 year old is literally just a normal relationship, but the terminally online younger generations are so warped by social media grandstanding they have almost every aspect of romantic relationships skewed.
17 and 14 is not normal idk what ur talking about lmfao. one is JUST leaving elementary school and becoming a 9th grader while one is so close to graduating and entering college. what's actually warped and skewed about 'aspects or romantic relationships' in this society is the complete loss of MORAL boundary rather than just legal. An 18yo may TECHNICALLY be a legal 'adult' in the eyes of the law but realistically they aren't due to the fact that their brain isn't even fully developed so when someone calls out an older person (20s and up) for dating a 18-19yo, using the words 'grooming' and 'pedophilic' isn't far off and this is coming from a 14yo victim of sexual grooming and abuse from older guys online :p@@kman9884
@@kman988417 and 14 isn't normal as they are in 2 different places in life and mental development but that being said a 17 yr old can't be a pedo since they themselves are minors
@@kman988417 and 14 is definitely not ok one is still well under the age of majority while one is closer to the age of majority and is getting ready to transition to being an adult.
How do pedophiles, as a concept, even exist? How can someone, no matter their mental state, see a bunch of teens/prepubescents going "only in ohio sigma skipiti ohio rizz gyat fanum tax among us, yeah I got that skipiti sussy baka rizz" and think "Oh my God that's so hot."?
Honestly, I don’t even care how old skye’s creator actually is. They’re a child, y’know? It’s fucked up for anyone to harass and bully any minor, it doesn’t matter if they’re 12 or 14 because there’s no difference. They’re just children. It’s heartbreaking that the kid had to endure a bunch of creeps, honestly.
You have to dive into the Geometry Dash degenerates, Tom. There’s so much degeneracy in the community, particularly grooming. High profile creators as well. As someone who was once very involved in that community, I would pay to see you cover it.
I had given my 11-year-old daughter access to the internet these past 2 months, but all these videos have hit me like a truck. She will not be going on the internet until her senior year. Thank you for shedding light on these things.
I never really knew about the dangers of social media myself until after age 15, but I remember an older guy sexting me and trying to do roleplay over Instagram, and it started out with what I believe was a 20 questions type game. Now, I look back at it and realize that holy shit it was bad, but what's even worse is the fact that now, there are literal infants online dealing with that stuff and brushing it off as a normal occurrence. I didn't get my first phone until 14, but there are 2 year olds with tablets and iPhones now and it terrifies me to no extent.
I can relate to this so hard. As a teen, you desperately want to feel mature and acknowledged, so you think it's fine to engage sexually with people online, only realizing years later how horrific that mindset was. I went through shit online as a 15-16 year old that genuinely gives me chills to this day. And that was _years_ ago, like you said, it's even worse nowadays
@@CaatsGoMoooo I gotten my first phone at 13, and the wildest shit I remember doing that terrified me was watching shows illegally. ….but I seen 10 yos on discord now, talking to 16 yos……in “servers”. I go into rabbit holes sometimes, since I wonder how bad can someone get. It gotten to the point where I expect the unexpected. Humanity is weird. It was back then, and still is now. Crazy how now 11 yos are now dealing with “mental illnesses”, “gender discrimination”, “toxic relationships”, and so on. But what can we do heh
I haven't been truly active on any social media platform until 2019 with Reddit. I mean, sure, I did have my Facebook and Twitter accounts at before, but I never did anything on them, I just had the accounts on there for the sake of having an account on there.
As an adult who grew up on newgrounds, this entire thing is just so gross. Kids who are not being supervised will fall into traps and very disgusting rabbit holes. I am so glad that my kids computer is not in their room, and they are also not allowed to chat online yet. When I was 16-18, I was groomed by someone online, and that experience is so unearthly. To think that this is now happening to preteens and younger makes me want to vomit.
@@suelancaster6959 I was raised by military helicopter parents in the canadian pmq (private military quarters) and because of that, I honestly did not know the outside world of my home and "inner life" that my parents constructed for me. Even as an adult, I now sometimes have troubles getting out of my comfort zone, and at many times, I am still kind of childish and naive. If you have kids, please, for my sake, don't over protect them.
@@suelancaster6959 You're absolutey disgusting. 16 is literally a teenager and they're barely learning the real world and are just finding themselves. Especially since everyone's mental age can vary. Being talked to sexually and groomed makes anyone of any age feel disgusted or vulnerable. I dont know if you ever have been groomed, but if not you clearly don't understand why or how it could affect someone so catastrophically. A grown ass man looking at a 16 year old and manipulating them is something that happens alot unfortunately. Just- please educate yourself on this topic dude 😬
The Amor wasn't as bad as the others. He kept his word and was not defending himself. He fully took blame. I used to listen to his music at bedtime tho "You're dating a child" "So what"
I remember joining this fandom once it was still starting out and it was relatively small at the time. I'm still stunned at how dangerously chaotic it has grown. Five chapters worth of so much drama covered all in one video, jesus that isn't even the half of it once you open up the can of worms that is the Sonic.EXE mod. I try my hardest to look on the positive side of the fandom through focusing on the coolest mods releasing. But man, I'd be lying if I said these situations don't bring my faith in the fandom down. I just wish people are able to never repeat this degeneracy so that we can go hack to making mods on whatever we liked and be chill. It's getting exhausting to see this game get bombarded by negativity because of these kinds of rotten apples that are almost everywhere in the community. But I'm not saying we should sweep it under the rug either and I'm glad to see that there's still more awareness being brought to these crooked creeps. Especially Mirth, I'm surprised she's gotten away with it for this long.
Fandoms are really toxic, and also mostly lurking with degenerates, creeps and weirdos. When FnF started to blow up, I was like "hey, this game kinda dope and also a tribute to the NG community of which I used to play several games on there when I was younger", played trough the game, downloaded some mods, watched some youtubers play popular mods at that time and then after 4 months I generally forgot about it since I saw it for what it was developed as initially. Over these years I did hear of certain dramas going on but never bothered to look deeper since I never partake in actively participating in fandoms or online communities in general. And god damn did the community twist this game harder than an alligator with its prey. Since I'm also part of gen z ( 19 years old ), I'm honestly concerned what these kids may be exposed to on the internet ( yes, I also did see some shit on the internet as a kid with unsupervised internet access, but at least I wasn't groomed or taken advantage of since I knew from that age that you never know who's truly on the other side of the screen ) in these days, especially on social media. I literally feel more like a boomer by the day, it makes me think what will happen with the newer generations in this increasingly rapidly changing virtual space, since there's so much shit going on at the same time that you can't be bothered to see it all. Also for those that plan to have kids in the future, please always be careful and monitor what your child is doing on the internet, and when he gets old enough make sure to teach him how to easily identify attempts of grooming and exploiting ( and the consequences of them ) on the internet and to never share critical personal information, like his full name and/or adress to potential weirdos and creeps online.
I seriously miss the old days of Friday night funkin the days when whitty was popular and the days where we were still waiting for a week seven and there were no leaks but now it feels like the community is just destroying itself
I originally joined the fandom because I loved the art in the game. I used to make fan art of the original and fanmade characters and it's actually what got me into digital art. I left the fandom in January 2022, when many creators I followed were outed. I still enjoy digital art, but the reason I got into it still haunts me to this day.
As someone who was genuienly invested in the development of FNF and got to whitness most of these incidents as they happened in real time, watching this video was just depressing. FNF went from a chill community to a toxic and pedo infested hellhole within like 2 months. I despise the community for all the awful things they have done and continue to do, but even then, just seeing this was just as soul crushing as it was hilarious (for some parts). A part of me died inside when he started discussing the sky situation knowing how stupid and mishandled that situation was, and knowing that everything went downhill after that point. The development of the game as well as the community has just been an absolute fucking mess. And the fact that all of this happened within a few months is just insane. Like, seriously what happened??
I get pissed whenever people use the argument “its not all of the community that is bad” as if that just magically fixes everything. So many communities like furries, fnf, roblox, minecraft etc have so many awful people and everybody just sweeps them under the rug with that garbage argument and act like they just fixed the whole community.
@@FatLoser445 honestly some use it as a coping mechanism since many are ib the community for months of even years and want justification for not wasting said time. Personally i feel like the bad should be shown to the public as to warn people on what they w get into and to be careful
I fuckin hate pedos, they fuck up everything. They go everywhere like a goddamn plague, hurt and traumatize kids, then dissappear with minimal accountability.
Some might argue it's the parents fault for not supervising their kids and what kinds of games they're playing. Personally, I think it's a combination of that AND the creepy people and groomers there.
I am genuinely concerned about the fandom spaces. Almost all fandom spaces are slowly degrading into cesspools..i really hope no one else gets hurt in amy way
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thank you for this video this is proof for my friends who like this game
Hey, whats up. Im writing this comment exactly 4 minutes after its release and it got already over 1k views. Gosh
aight
Nah
It’s honestly bizarre how FNF managed to gain the type of community that it has now. It was literally made to serve as both a blatant sex joke as well as an homage to Newgrounds and it’s niche, edgy, and mature style of content. It’s not really something kids should be exposed to in the first place, yet here we are.
Honestly
Yea my kid showed me this game and I saw Pico with a gun. I remember playing those Pico games. I didn't tell her about the origin
Might have happened since the game was appealing visually to children, and free to download
It's likely because the art style looks like it was made for children. Even i thought it was a kids game at first.
it combines the autism and loser aspects of osu with childish stupid content like FNAF.
Minors having unregulated access to social media was a mistake. Absolutely disgusting.
@@cactuss33ds more apps, bigger and easier ways to connect with people. It's almost impossible to stop now. RUclips is doing well with the kids mode but still it just happens man
@@cactuss33ds dogshit parents. Normal kids with caring parents don't fall into these sorts of ruts
@@cactuss33ds It definitely was. I know of lots of people that saw grooming on platforms like Kik and Minecraft servers, among others. Any place with a concentration of kids and young teens with minimal moderation is going to be a p3 d0 haven.
It's just more documented nowadays.
Well that’s because their parents are not there for them.
@@johndriscoll213 it was not good as people really remember, they just let nostalgia get to them
As a longtime Newgrounder, seeing FNF stray so far from its humble beginnings hurts my heart. Pico and the Tankmen being introduced to the game was such a cool and nostalgic surprise.
Yeee, FNF is still part of newgrounds no matter what, and have good time with the devs as well
@@denysvision it's just the fans who ruined it
I'm waiting for FNF's full release after its successful crowd funding campaign. I have respect for the first couple of mods like Tricky and Static and the original songs, however everything I liked got ruined by fans.
The original game, intended to have dirty origins, was polished for preschoolers. Mods stirred more drama, tumblr OCs, more mods for kid gaming trends than anything worth playing, and rhythm game tryhards than fun. Newgrounds became a host for the FNF fandom rather than a revival. And streamers highlighted and catalysed all these problems.
If you want to still enjoy this game, ignore the "fan"dom.
poor dave, he always waved back.
atleast he gets to come on oneyplays sometimes
When the game became popular, I was so excited soley because of the crossover aspect. Like "Nice, everyone's hyped to see new weeks! Can't wait to see what Newgrounds characters are next like ENA, Madness and Eddsworld."
All of these situations are a culmination of several things: parents not supervising their children, sexual perversion and degeneracy becoming normalized. It's insane how absolutely disgusting some of these situations are, if the same things were to happen 10 to 20 years ago these people would be publicly shunned and humiliated rightfully so.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
It's so weird man. Teens did not try to share fetishes with others before. What's the most surprising about all these videos are how young all involved are. This is all new and never happened before social media.
@@randomfools808Because there’s no way anyone has the balls to tell someone they have a “fat fetish” in real life
I legit feel bad for Dave (PhantomArcade) for not realizing how chaotic this franchise would've gotten. I remember watching him be a guest on Oneyplays, and it's clear that his humor is aimed towards adults, which was also apparent with the game he made.
I also remember seeing this game blowing up on newgrounds, crazier times honestly lol.
Also the constant shit talking about FnF. I can’t tell if it’s actual hate towards the project or just goofing off
@xX_BugC0re3_Xx he's really cryptic when he talks about the game. If I remember correctly in that recent Resident Evil letsplay he was in, he tells Oney that he treads lightly on the lore or even the game itself because fans will immediately claim is as canon/official.
@RR nice try, you stinky vat of tar-tard sauce.
Dave should have included his crazy taxi story to ward off people from the game. Seriously though, I'm glad he found a huge success but the shit that came along fucking sucks
@404sutibi that story is comedy gold. The planets legit align to make Dave go paranoid every second.
"You're dating a child"
"So what?"
I cannot think of a single worse response than this
Edit: okay, guys, I get it, there are worse responses, chill
Better than saying that you are killing and eating them
There is one
"Age is just a number."
And
"Yeah so?"
Child ? What age,what Is that thing 17 child 18 adult
Smart. Reeeeal smart.
"not only date but have sex with them"
It's weird to me that a 12-year-old is allowed to livestream at all. This whole event gives me Jessie Slaughter vibes where supervision was needed, but never given.
It's tragic that Dahvie Vanity hasn't been shanked in the jugular yet
Absentee parents and unfiltered access to the internet are a very bad combo
@@anthonymastrocola631 Im around the same age as her and I have the common sense to not go online and pizx on camera
Children should never be content creators. Them being allowed to use the platforms to view memes and stuff is fine, but creating videos should be a 16+ or get banned sort of deal.
@@thatoneguy33198 That seems a little bit over the top, of course children making videos can be a huge liability but i think its better for 13+ and while 13 year olds and anyone around that age can be extremely stupid that doesn’t necessarily mean they would do something to the extent of what the 12 year old did
This is 45 minutes of why children and teenagers under 18 shouldn't be allowed totally unsupervised, unrestricted access to the internet at all times.
Some kids can handle the internet, some can't. Neither should be able to access the internet without some supervision
It's a good idea to keep kids supervised over the internet, but kids are smart. They'll find any and every way to evade supervision, especially restrictions
@@sayounsang Children are not smart, they are very dumb, but children are clever and like monkeys can figure out how to workaround restrictions, if they were smart, they would never have gotten into whatever trouble there was.
@@sayounsangexactly
Thank goodness i've watched edutainment youtubers like turkey tom.
I always see this circle:
•a good game with massive fanbases that have a good storyline and/or very easy to make your own canon
• had a lot of minor fans playing said game
• had a lot of player-made creations
• here comes the p3dos and the edgy kids flocking in likes flies
• said fanbase is in ruins and will recreate from ground up
Rinse and repeat
Sounds about right
Undertale
@@personbadatgames Kinda.
The one thing that pushed UT into its grave at Mt. Ebott was how it was one of the first games on Windows 10 (it released the same year, and probably the same month and day too) and how easy it was to access it.
And, the fluff that was presented above started to form.
Time is a flat circle
The circle of good games
Listen, I'm not trying to be an ass, but I think the 12-year-old being bullied and being on discord peeing themselves is a lot more concerning to me than whether their drawing was "underage"or not.
and the fact it's so ignored, along with the "trolls" who spammed gore n porn ☠️
That was my "wait what the hell is happening on discord?" moment
Bro fr, I honestly truly don’t think bbpanzu meant any harm, he was simply embracing the cringe of being a fangirl/self insert despite the community being filled with adults , for some reason people have an immediate hate towards “cringe” that children usually post even though there’s nothing wrong with it.
I’m really glad they left the community though, it was not safe for a child
@@B4N4NA_PH0NE these people ain't even trolls anymore
Right i thought I missed something like wtf
The main problem is that the game is obviously intended for adults (it's on Newgrounds after all), yet it's fanbases consists almost entirely of preteens.
but sadly it looks childish until u play the game/enter the communtiy :/
Newgrounds isn't for adults, it's for kids with no adult supervision.
@@fleasy4393 budy, you cleary don't know newgrounds at ALL
@@fleasy4393 newgrounds went from a big ol community of dedicated people making stuff for the website to just kids acting like they own the damn site because of one joke rhythm game for adults that blew up, i miss old newgrounds
@@pmchad for real, basic retards infested the entire site. Can't even use Newgrounds anymore
You actually have to be the biggest disappointment to your parents if you are harrassing a 12 year old online
i mean she was sending gore and porn to other minors and she also pissed live on camera so if it showed anything thats cp right there both sides are disappointments fr
Not even to your parents, to your entire ancestry
A 12 year old getting harassed by thousands of degenerate overnight having a mental breakdown because they can't deal with it? Totally her fault according to @@GODEATER2
@@GODEATER2yeah no I'm not gonna shit on a 12 year old for lashing out in an inappropriate manner to adults flooding their discord with porn
There's the kicker; those people don't have parents
"A friday night funkin' mod creator is found out to be a Groomer!"
"Sheen, this is the 17th time
you've shown the Fnf community has groomers."
18*
@@Mr.Tw1sty gotta keep it under 18 ;)
@@lmao1660 oop
@@lmao1660 💀
593rd*
ever since Senpai came to the game, i feel like basically every fanmod started trying to copy it by having the opponent get more "evil" and copypasta-y mode between the stages
also as a longtime user of NG, its feels surreal to see characters that represent the site like pico, tankmen etc being soo well known now for completly different reasons
Right! Been on new grounds since before RUclips and it’s strange that ppl only know tankman because of FNF. Makes me feel old as hell even though I’m only 23
Seeing the Madness Combat fandom basically just become an extension of... whatever the fuck you'd even call this has been the most depressing shit I've seen in a while.
@@WaspCameraInSpringfield definitely
@@WaspCameraInSpringfieldMadness Combat fanbase was fucking revived due to fnf. Honestly fnf helped it
@@WaspCameraInSpringfield The MC community has god awful even before FNF
It's crazy how a fandom can stain a good game so badly.
This is why I distance myself from the fandom and just play the game.
Yeah this is the problem with fandoms nowadays
Man i remember when FNF was a game that barely anyone talked about and only a few channels would talk about it. How did we get to this point?
Same
I actually don't like the game because of the fandom
Same with Mha beast stars all of those don’t make watch
Whats sadder about the Mirth thing is that her fans are saying to forgive her because she’s trying to be a better person LMAO
It’s because she is a woman
Instead of being forgiven, she should go either to prison or cemetery
Yeah.
Because they are simps
They really think that a person can change in a blink of an eye like if it was an alter ego or something
the "wife divorce mod" joke and reply was genuinely some of the funniest shit ever.
"STFU YOU BASTARD!!!!"- 🤓
ted kazcinksy mod
@@handletemplate LMFAO
tax fraud mod
The first song would be "Argument", second would be "Divorce", third would be "Alimony"
The fact that 4chan didn’t actually do anything bad in this story is hilarious. They just made a mod and one guy said “yea, lemme put this bad image in here”
well I mean the Image is still weird, but yeah it's less bad than all the other crap that happened in the community
@@mrhamster9186 They actually being nice suprisingly often even if they are being toxic waste most of time
yea lol
@MR Hamster 4chan isn't twitter. Messed up crap happens there but they are honestly not "the hivemind of pure evil of the mainstream internet" as some people seem to believe to this day.
It is rumored that they put the image to get a mod cancelled speedrun or is that some anonymous uploaded the mod to gamebanana without their consent so they have to get rid of it
The phrase “Friday night funking” and the word “degenerate” really go together.
@seeingstar.bugger off bot
Dang there's even degenerates in Fnf, my favorite video game music to listen to 😔😪
The term kike is cringe
@seeingstar.dam even the bot agreed 💀💀💀
Just started the video. Can't wait to see how degenerate it gets.
Mayz' story is the definition of "Even a small scratch can lead to a horrible accident"
The wrong man In the right place can make all the difference in the shitty fandom
Tbh I feel he wouldn't have gotten in trouble (in the first few incidents) if his art didn't just... suck.
Legit, better art would have shielded him lmaooo @@Stephanie-mv9iy
I feel like peeing on a livestream should be a sign that the child might be abused irl, or at the very least is dealing with extreme levels of stress.
I haven’t pissed the bed since well before 12 (9 years old wearing diapers before bed) and that was pushing it.
Yeah where is this child’s parents at? Regardless if the parents know about the livestream or not (they should obviously) if a child that’s 12 is peeing that’s not in a toilet, they need some help.
@@jellyrollderp3193 i used to piss myself while laughing lol
I think the self harm is a bigger clue
@ferret4111 oh really?? Gotta think on this one
Who would've guessed a shitpost Newgrounds crossover rhythm game would get such a horrifying fanbase
The moment I saw the game gaining steam I figured this would happen lol.
It’s fnf, of course it would have a shitty fanbase
Not surprising tbh
Honestly, I knew it would've had a bad fanbase the moment it started became more and more popular
"No. I judge pedophiles that play victim." Fucking iconic.
That should be Chris Hansen's quote
*ironic
@@alaxrising7203why ironic??
@@karakattankuraiwell irony is figurative language for ok imaging you go to Burger King and you see somebody eating a baconator from Wendy’s.
irony means cruel humor. @@zenochara7522
hey i used to be amoraltra's upperclassman in high school and in our art club. it's so fucking dystopian that ive heard about what happened to him in a video about fnf creeps to listen to when im doing uni work... i used to be so impressed with his art and his social media presence back in high school and was really nice to him. ive never thought that he would end up being... like that. im literally shaking and in tears right now holy shit
tbh, i wonder if kominfo would do shit if we reported amor. Or hell, if someone already reported him to kominfo lmao
i feel so awful for you and his victims. i’m sorry, you guys didn’t do anything to deserve witnessing that…
@@probablyjinxed though i didnt spend much time with him since i was already a senior when he got in, the last time i met him was at 2019 when i already graduated but i went back to my hs as the alumnus representative of my art club for our school's club exhibition. i cant remember what month it was but the fact that he was alr texting nsfw things to minors (as a minor himself back then) when i last met him made me genuinely sick. but hey, me and my friend who used to be in the same art club exchanged horrified looks because of this video and had our fun making fun of the stupid fact that we heard of this news through a video about fnf. though im glad that he quit the internet and is getting the help he needs
the saddest part about fnf's fan base is easily how it was literally never meant for kids in the first place. The creators had a sense of humor clearly aimed at adults and and teens, and it shows as the game he made is full of it. Not only that, the site it's made on, newgrounds, is nowhere near a place for children. Unfortunately, because of this Game's community, it's full of them. I am not sure how kids were ever attracted to it in the first place but it's really sad. The whole community is a great example of why children should never be allowed on the internet.
replies are a Hellscape don't read them
People who make comments like this act as if Newgrounds wasn't full of edgy 13 to 16 year olds who had unsupervised internet access. I used to watch the hell out of edgy animations on Newgrounds when I was like, 12.
Not that I necessarily disagree, I think the game would've been better off if kids didn't infest the community, but it's just such a silly remark to make.
Why would kids even play adult games?
It was easy to tell phantomarcade really didn't like what his fanbase was becoming when the game picked up steam. I feel as bad for the devs as I do the people harmed by the weird shit that happens in the fandom, the game is still great and their work shouldn't be dragged down by a bunch of assholes using it to take advantage of vulnerable people or promote their own terrible choices
@@rizkiramadhan9266 Same reason kids flocked to sonic.exe or fnaf; they think it's "mature", which in turn makes them feel mature. They want to feel like they're grown, which really just makes them look more childish. So by playing or watching these "adult" things, they feel like they're older than they care to admit. I used to be the exact same way when I was 9-14 💀
Most people got onto newgrounds around middle school and older, and which around the 12 year range. You have bright expressive cartoon characters and slightly edgy situations and scenarios; it attracts this kind of fanbase. You see it all the time with stuff like FNAF and sonic; it acts as a gateway to explore these darker themes and ideas while still having a cutesy "safe" base in the form of cartoon characters. You would have to be severly sheltered to just never come across this stuff at this point.
What's changed nowadays is that Discord, being an unregulated chatting tool, makes it easy to kids who don't know any better to come across and interact with people that don't have the best intentions in mind, and harder still to keep records of.
As a grown-ass man who grew up on Newgrounds, I thought the game was just a celebration of the website, what the hell is up with the influx of OCs that turn into reality-bending demons in a rap competition?
I'm an OG Madness Combat fan and I can't even look at it anymore.
its like undertale ocs but to the next level
i can't stand that game, the guys who made the game are good people but the game and fanbase just took a huge fuckin shit on the website and ruined it for me. and thanks to flash being shut down for some security reason and newground's emulator being shit, i kinda don't wanna be on that website anymore
Little edgy kids
People like making stuff. Dunno what to tell ya
Fnf drama is probably the best example to why kids shouldn't be allowed online.
It's the best example of why the animator community needs to be on the receiving end of a collective toaster bath
@@sneedsfeedandseed420 They manage to start drama over anything.
@@sneedsfeedandseed420 agreed
@@sneedsfeedandseed420 yup
It’s also a good example on why parents should watch their kids more closely, like with the sky incident.
As a minor, I am sometimes in fear of revealing my face. It's honestly disgusting how pedos and groomers like this can thrive on the internet, and kids can lie about their age.
Never reveal your face on the internet even if you're an adult. You don't know when will some random crazy bastards start to dox you due to whatever reason. Better safe then sorry.
Don’t reveal your face until you know your community isn’t full of freaks
@@luislee3247wasn't gonna post it anyway i'm fugly as fck and the pic would probably get cross referenced revealing my location
Never reveal shit. It ain’t worth it.
It’s just best to stay anonymous and quiet.
Finally Tom covers one of the most recent chaotic communities that a game ever had
Is this your first day on the internet?
I think you forget about Undertale
@@agents1738 Oh, i forgor the "one of the most RECENT "
@@_TaxFraud_ Undertale didn't have much pedophiles in the community, it was just cringe
@@Southparkfan598 oh they absolutely did. maybe not what we know of, but there definitely were.
I funded the Kickstarter, been following since it’s really early versions, and loved what was brought from the modding community. It’s a shame that weirdos and children are drawn to the game/fandom bc even at first glance that’s a really bad mix
I also enjoy having my kickstarter money being used for crack
@@Sudafedz how else is he gonna make the erect difficulty?
@@Sudafedz that was a joke
@@Sudafedz lolol
You should have funded Aero GPX or Armed Fantasia/Penny Blood
it's funny how out of all the stories in this video, the one that didn't involve literal minors was the story involving a 4channer making something as intentionally edgy, shocking and offensive as possible to get it off of Gamebanana.
Literally making something that does what the original game does, paying homage to that kind of content from back in the day. The game does it with NG and the mod did it for 4chan, that shit would be expected from there but people were still comically shocked? We all should've had a big laugh when that was found but people freaked out instead. Somehow this game cultivated an immature, overly sensitive, child fanbase that pushed out and gatekeeps away the audience that the game was supposed to be MADE FOR.
Of course because it’s 4 chan,I think the picture itself is more of an inside joke than loli p…
that didn't even get it off of GB, its old shitty report system did lmfao
@@DanimationYT wouldn’t surprise me if there was some people purposefully stirring stuff up in the community.
4chan is the hydrothermal vent of the internet. It’s chaotic, but sometimes creates pinnacles of internet culture like SCP, the backrooms, troll face, and slender man.
Letting children use the internet was a bad idea
Trying to ban children from the internet (especially today) is a bad idea Lmfao.
@@outerheaven4384 *children and the internet were bad ideas since day 1*
Letting children use the internet WITHOUT SUPERVISION / MODERATION is a bad idea.
Oh yeah, children entering awful fandoms without being aware and acknoledge it are also a really bad idea too, glad there are youtubers like turkey tom on the internet.
i think as long as the kid is internet smart and knows what hes doing its fine in my book.
@@micjimster4845 exactly dude.
Thank you for speaking up about Mirth/Kodomadachi. I'm really frustrated the community forgave her and even more concerned for kids in her fandom
it sucks cause i liked their animations alot even when i knew about the kodomadachi situation but i had no idea they were the same person at the time
@@MarsMakes same
Makes me also kinda upset that I got to talk to her at the time, and they seemed pretty cool
If only I knew how fucked up she was to those people.
It's not that everyone forgave her, it just that her drama at the time was getting noticed by very little people. After that she also changed her name to hide her past, so there not many people know what she have done and what she used to be. The people who do know about what she done, of course will never forgave her and just tried to not get involved with her anymore.
the only thing i knew about them was their weird obsession with ena
It isn't woke to call her out
FNF being popular with the kids is like South Park being popular with children:
they think they’re edgy💀
It’s the MODS
They aren’t related to the base game nor Newgrounds at all.
@@seasonseason154 ironically South park fans are one of the most unnecessarily sensitive people I've met and I can confirm that a larger than expected portion of them are children, it just a clear indication of neglect
@@the_mariocrafter nah, fnf base game wasnt that mature cause the original game did not have much interactions or cutscenes, but the base game is still more mature than the mods
@@EpicGamer-rf4xr week 7 was
Im so sorry she had to go through this. I feel like BB's intentions were wholesome and didnt mean any harm but it is the internet.
Also with the KitsuneSkulls situation, people leaving the community isnt rare. The community is so toxic that its just not even known for the good part, its mainly known for its bad part.
I left it and I’ve never been so glad, the fandom is so cringe
Before watching this I thought League of Legends had the most toxic community, now im thinking this community takes that title
Yeah I was saying throughout that part that I think it should definitely not be squarely on his shoulders since Sky had traction before the mod even showed up and undoubtably the adult portion of the community at least somewhat picked up on that before he even did anything felt it was unfair that he was the scapegoat for everything that happened
It seemed so genuine She they blamed him from other ppl doing bad
I know my younger cousins got pretty into the game. Ages as low as 6. They like the catchy songs and think the animations are cool. They like taking on more difficult songs and feel cool if they can actually beat them. Fortunately they didn’t really engage with the community aspect, they just liked the games and the mods and their interest died out after the next big thing popped up. I can see what would draw children toward the game, even if it’s not made for them.
Atleast they didn't engage with the fandom
if they still play it, you should have them play the hit single mod, its just to good (and im not just talking about silly billy)
Tom, you should definitely cover the osu! degenerates. That community is FULL of potential content. Anyone who is remotely part of the community will know this.
Liking this so Tom sees it. Osu is full of weirdos
@@KiIIua_ What is OSU?
Ik someone who plays OSU, and he’s a femboy degenerate so you’re not wrong
this would be hilarious… yes please
@PhantomLee Oklahoma State University? I get a bunch of universities, Ohio football, something about Ohio again, and some musical rhythm game thing. I'm assuming it's the latter.
I love hearing Tom read RP lines, it's so fucking funny
Fr 💀
These documentary type videos by Tom are so good, I'm glad he chose that style of content.
@Seeing Star NOOOOOOOOO
STOP
@Seeing Star what the hell is up with these bots they commenting under every comment I click on no matter what video I watch 🤦♂️
I see a patern here...
-Mod maker starts out small
-Goes Big
-Fame makes him do shit
-And Boom.
Don’t blame the fame. There’s plenty of famous people who don’t groom children
@@SpiltBowlOfCerealAnd plenty of nonfamous people as well. It's not fame that makes them do this, it's fame that gives them access to more kids to be able to do it.
sometimes literally...
very true
We need to decrease how open people are about their fetishism, its too normalized. Shit like these keeps happening. This is one of the most disturbing videos on the channel and its from a community full of children and young teens. Also the game is shit.
once the gates open its impossible to shut em back
This.
@@reasonablebro *This is fine* - people back then.
@@reasonablebro but they call you a nazi if you tell them that
This sounds like the GoAnimate community, normalizing brutal violence and groundings
I swear being an "internet personality exposer" could be an actual profession.
Toasty and Turkey Tom working together would be a banger
It literally is, the commentary community comes to mind.
It is kind of a risky one, though. If you gonna take a shot at someone, you better make sure they're actually guilty of said things. Which is getting harder & harder as people keep making false evidence & false claims to nail someone they want out of their way.
@@killerbug05gonna be honest, a lot of the commentary guys are dickwads who just want to be assholes for a reason. Just my opinion but I like to stray away from that community from how much of a downer it is
Man, I'm so glad I was a normal kid who played sports and hung out with friends when I was a teenager...wtf is wrong with these people.
There are some overprotective parents who WON"t let their kids hang out with friends after school.....so online stuff is basically all they can do doing their free time.
You are a loser. You are a creep. You are a pedo.
@@the_mariocrafter no u
@@DrawciaGleam02 fr
@@Ninjya44 what?
8:00 "dislikes proships" is all the confirmation I need to know that's a child 😭 only children talk like that in fandom
It’s always the fun fan bases that ends up being taken over by kids and in turn weirdos. Like shit there’s more to life then having a single IP as your one personality
You are a loser. You are a creep. You are a pedo.
FNF is not an IP
@Formarotica what, about the personality or the weirdos
Funnily enough it happens to adult games and not kids games, like how has 90% of the splatoon 3 content I consume not get flagged for kids
The same thing happens in the gacha community as well...
I had to deal with a pedophile, I was not a victim but sadly my online sister was...
He almost made me self harm and my sister had suicidal thoughts because of him
I got so mad that I gave him death threats...
And told him to go to hell...
I hated myself for that...
He called me evil and said that he thought I was a kind person
And days ago, an event triggered that memory and it led me to self-harm...the drama was over at the time but still...
Children being near FNF is a problem in it of itself. Since it's a giant love letter to Newgrounds, it has a crap load of edgy and suggestive content. Every time a incident like this happens, just makes me feel like there need to be a child only form of internet. Parents need to keep an eye on what their kids are doing and talk to them about potential dangers online. I'm tired of mentally deranged individuals being around minors.
Many parents do warn their children about the dangers of the internet already, it's so sad that things like this happen
Newgrounds was pretty much built off the back off children, tbh. Seems to me like all the people who got famous off of Newgrounds and were major players in its culture were child animators trying to get into creative fields early. And as far as I've seen, children today are even edgier than they were back then.
Children should be punished for their involvement in fnf
It’s hard for parents to understand what they’re kids are doing because on the outside FNF looks like a pretty normal kids game
I remember a kid being shocked Pico was a "Kid using gun in School", when in reality he was killing kids using gun in School
Goes to show how ditched FNF kids from the actual core game
Everybody gangsta until degenerates overtake a rhythm game community.
Oh gosh
Not Rhythm Heaven
it all started with osu
@@philmiller1845 someone said it and I will thank you for it
Beat Saber will always be the superior rhythm game with a good mod scene
@TheJman5683 Will admit I at least haven't heard of an extreme creep scene from there.
This entire problem could've been entirely avoided if they had made this game closed source, but the devs decided to be nice and make it open
This is why we don't get nice things
Open Source ain’t the problem, pedos are. Don’t let’em win.
I don't think it was the mods problem, I think it's because of the fact the people in the community are scum. They're a lot of great people with modded communities, it's just fnf attracted the wrong and worst people ever.
you can mod a closed source game, it's called hacking >:)
@@flipmaniayt this going to my stupidest takes ever list
@@hardVatsuki fr
developers barely make enough money as it is
Imagine having your life fall apart because of a made-up character not even apart of the official videogame.
Imagine one’s bloodline going through decades upon decades of struggle and torment, disease, war, poverty, death, and suffering, trying to make ends meet so your children could have a better future, squirming under the weight of the world as it spins endlessly, all for the one who beholds the bloodline to have their life be shattered from some character from a rhythm game, that doesn’t even exist in canon
@@Randomlad56 the modern age has allowed people who normally would have been weeded out by natural selection the opportunity to exist
This entire saga has “what, she looked 13” oozing all over it.
Why 13?
@@tigerfestivals5137 probly focus point of cringe and horniness.
good lordy 🤮
You can take one look at the artstyle of any project and tell if the fandom will have pedophiles within 30 seconds
How?
Want a good game with a good artsyle, try TWEWY
@@x_VineM_x Products with recognisable, marketable characters, and cartoony or unique artstyles (regardless of content sometimes) tend to attract kids. This in turn, attracts predators.
FNaF, BatIM, Cuphead, Hello Neighbour, Baldy's Basics, Undertale. The list goes on and they all have the same deal of having recognisable (fanart-able) characters.
@@DanimationYT I’m just not sold on this whole “designed to attract kids” narrative going around lately. It would be like saying “Mac and cheese is designed to attract kids because it’s simple.” I don’t think artists/companies develop things like this to specifically attract children, it just so happens to because the designs are appealing in general. And what “children’s media” doesn’t have a large, adult fan base these days? Look at Bronies. Once Hasbro/Hub found out they were driving the shows views/sales, they started to cater towards them (canonizing fan jokes, marketing towards them specifically, etc.) It’s not that kids like the designs, it’s that humans like them and some of them happen to be kids
@@LateNightTableCo Never said they were designed to attract kids. I said that products with those qualities usually do.
obsessed brimstone
Man, i made the right choice to never involve myself with online communities/fandoms in general, no matter how niche they are. Enjoying things on my own or my small circle of irl friends is plenty enough.
All this jazz about leaked private text messages, mental breakdowns, writing 40 pages about just how messed up a single individual is, doxxing, going back and forth who gets supported and who gets cancelled. It is all so tiring at this point. I burned myself too once, back when i was part of the Smash community for a few years. Those brain cells will be lost forever.
I wholeheartedly agree. Though I used to be in mainstream fandoms, I dont ever consider going back into ANY because of what shitstorm could happen. You couldn't have said it any better.
Yhea Im in various fandoms online, I can confirm. It is exhausting to say the least. Especially ship wars.
But most part they're chill depending on the fandom.
😳
Thats sorta how I feel tbh, I just like to enjoy games that are fun with friends.
My fandom interests are from the old media: DC Comics, Star Trek, and Doctor Who and you can still dip a toe into those and come away relatively unscathed. Fans there can still be fans of those things and not make them the center of their identity. That doesn't mean there aren't still weirdos though but they're easy to avoid.
Sports fandoms are the least strange of all. The MMA fandom is probably the least toxic of all; probably because we're watching even the people we don't like getting kicked in the face. That's worthy of respect no matter how big an asshole someone is. Motorsports fans get carried away sometimes as can followers of football and soccer. The most you're going to see are stupid posts whining about "bias" and shitposts designed to start flame wars. None of the weird psychological and sexual stuff that goes down in other fandoms though.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:39 Surfshark Sponsor
2:32 The Sky Incident
10:38 Maymays4days
25:28 Kodomodachi
32:03 Amoraltra
38:35 The V Tan Incident
43:43 Conclusion
god bless you
@@KaylaTheKindOne You're Welcome.
This is helpful; good on you for making this comment.
(Idk what else to say to make this not seem like a bot response, but eh)
I used to be friends with kodomadachi this just scares me because I’m under the age of consent..
Bro I was so confused on the kodomodachi part cuz at the beginning they said chapter 5 v tan incident and it was just the kodomo incident xdxd I was waiting for v tan to show up then I realized maybe the creator probably switched the titles up
So funny how Mayz was instantly crucified for attempted grooming, but a Female that's proven and admitted to grooming children still achieves success.
Unfortunately its double standards. some ppl would assume that most ped0s are dudes
Unfortunately its double standards. Some people just have a complete mental bias, that prevents them from taking logical and effective action against women. It's real.
I mean women are the ones that get fucked while men are doing the fucking. Men have penises. So it makes sense from a physiological/psychological perspective why humans see men as predators. In many cultures a boy who fucks a woman becomes a man.
@@grimtygranule5125 it didn't work for Revie
@@PCmmentor7 Revie was proven innocent
21:49 god this breaks my heart. made me tear up a little as a victim of grooming myself because this was exactly how i felt. you can hear her voice breaking and god i hope shes doing ok now
0:00 Prologue
0:45 Sponsorship
2:37 bfswifeforever
10:45 MayMaysFourDays
25:27 Kodomodachi
38:35 /v/tan incident
32:03 AmorAltra
43:22 Epilogue
Thank You.
32:03 AmorAltra*
Ily for this
Tbh i was full on expecting the sonic.exe mod to be here since there are so many things that been said.
@@lexennexel1679 oh hell nah not AmorAltra the child predator.
Oh my god dude. Underage nonsense, peeing, self harm, character OC obsessions, dude this is a rhythm game. Why are people so unhinged? ITS A RHYTHM GAME. Just enjoy it and then go outside!
Love the video, subject matter just gives me such little hope for humanity.
The mods did it
@@formarotica yeah, and usually, going outside isnt safe for some people. i have friends that live in dangerous neighborhoods, like hawthorne minnesota or chicago, and sometimes, their parents dont let them hang out.
@@formarotica and parents sometimes dont let their kids go out. when i was younger, my stepmom never really let me hang out with friends because there was no time to take me to those places since she was constantly working. i wouldnt go out to those big places to hang out anyways bc of my trauma
@@formarotica yes, i have trauma from getting trafficked
@@formarotica its alright
A guy I knew in school was a FnF mod dev. He would not only steal assets and sometimes entire mods and call them his own, but also was known for getting the police involved on two accounts of suspected pedophilia.
Did he have a mod?
I used to be part of a the FNF Community. I didn't use Twitter, but I always was listening to the "news channels" for FNF. When the rise of pedos began to start, I didn't know what to say. Then, the big mod creators became pedos. AmorAltra and multiple other mods. Sonic EXE. was the last straw. I basically just dipped, and never said a word. Then, I realized there was even drama about the Kickstarter. I really am just sad FNF had to go this way, with there being drama left and right.
Tom is straight no lifing to get these vids up like this. Thank you turkey man
@seeingstar. Actually no.
@Seeing Star go on and an hero.
You act like the videos are hours apart
@@SpringyGirl69 this is one of the most obscure, niche communities out there in terms of things he's covered. the amount of time and effort it takes to gather all of this information, understand it well enough AND then edit it all together into a 40+ min mini doc is absolutely incredible. The quality is insane.
They may as well be hours apart from each other in terms of upload timing because the quality only gets better and better.
The thing that concers me the most about this is not the adult fanart, not trying to make their own versions of the character, but only the harassment and bullying of a minor to a point where she broke down fully. I feel like this is just the worst thing that has come out of this as that's a thing this girl will never forget in her life and will forever haunt her
same, like honestyl it's just a stupid drawing who gives a fk is not even real, but the actual real girl got damaged and when that happenned people straight up didn't care and that was disgusting
@@ironmaster6496 theres adults on the internet that get mad if kids are just minding their own business on there, so they decide to bully and harass them simply because they hate them. its disgusting
The overreaction to the classic /v/ comic calling it LITCHERALLY ILLEGAL CHILD PORN was hilarious.
Which comic was it?
@@alanhasmemes I believe /v/ goes to the movies but I'm not 100% sure
@@NightMangleAgain It was.
@@NightMangleAgain I just read it wtf was that last page it came out of nowhere
@@tigerfestivals5137 "The Aristocrats!"
The clip at around 2:47 reminds me of some of those Sans Fangirl videos from when Undertale was really popular, you probably know the ones I'm talking about
Damn, parents really need to monitor what their kids do online.
yep
As someone who grew up wit the internet. That will be my job.
Bruh this shit is so fucking wild. I loved this game. I'm 27 now and I remember old new grounds so this game was very magic to me and I had no idea how wild it had gotten and so many kids jumped on it. First kids shouldn't be playing this dam game but than again kids are wonderful at getting into shit they shouldn't and still remember that akward moment I joined a FNF group thinking it would be cool to talk about the old days of new grounds and just saw kids fucking everywhere. Talking about there OCS fanships etc etc it was wild. I left in the first hour.
It’s best to stick to the games. The community is just too dangerous to be interacted with lmao
@@SpringyGirl69 agreed the games of the community are good but the community itself is something u should stay away from 85%-98% of the time...
@@mayiseeyourneckplsjknotrel7107 thanks for the extremely specific percentages, I'll keep it in mind!
man i feel ya. there is a lot of stuff i really love but i don't interact with the communities at all because they're either 1) unrelatable/full of kids or 2) straight-up terrifying
@@ten1982 same here dude same here...
Kids not latching onto a game not intended for kids challenge: Impossible
"Ha ha. I'm in danger" - the kids.
This because they want to seem cool
@@MammonCity exactly
@@mw6ngi0 I randomly saw the game in my recommendations, it looked pretty lit so that's why I joined
I never interacted with discord or something I guess lol
@TheGlassesPro me playing gta san andreas when i was 5 be like:
why doesn't discord like.. have more precautious for minors using the platform? like every story like this always goes "but then on discord.."
They’ve tried, but there’s only so much they can do
The release of this video was just a matter of time. Can't help but wait to see next "Degeneracy Chronicles" episodes
At this point he should just release a manifesto titled "social media and its consequences" and the hide in the woods.
@@dorugoramon0518 he should also start sending homemade bombs to social media companies and take up a polish name
@@dorugoramon0518 he should send pipebombs to youtube headquarters 😳
@@dorugoramon0518how society ruined my life
2:33: bfswifeforever (Sky)
10:39: MayzMayzForDayz / StarLyt
25:28: Kodomodachi / Mirth
_NOTE: "Kodomodachi" means Children in Japanese_
32:04: AmorAltra
38:35: /v/-tan
L name tbh
@@clonebricks483 look who's talking, literal bricks from Roblox 💀
I can't wait for the upcoming "Poppy Playtime Degenerates" episode.
Real
The characters are equivalent to lamprey eels
real
And the fnaf degenerates episode
@@Toby-Draven spoiler alert!
Kids shouldn't be on the internet. Point blank period. Parents, do your jobs so you're not letting your kids get any harm or feelings hurt. Wtf is wrong with you parents who think you have to be a friend instead of a parent. Omfg...
I'm so tired of kinks and fetishes bleeding into every public space. It's great that you feel comfortable with your sexuality, but there's a time and place to talk about it and ,99% of the time it isn't it
Well said.
fr
exactly! kinkshaming should be normalized sometimes.
@@malachitemalice what you call kink shaming many people call common sense in contexts like the one owen is mentioning.
@@deejaycxre oh yeah shit my bad. shoulda put that one in quotations..
It always surprised me how much of the fanbase is children, not even teens just, actual small children, I've seen small kids wearing bootleg fnf merch. It weirds me mostly because the game although is not really THAT explicit, is still thought out to be for teens and up audiences I think, I mean the main objective of the game is that gf and bf want some "alone time". I wonder that had the developers finished that scrapped intro animation they mentioned once on stream things might have been a bit different
Even fnaf have mostly teens and man children
@@cubeman9766 fnaf didn't start out with that though. there were a lot of children who were into that, but they grew up. case in point: my little brother. that dude was into fnaf since like age 7-8, and now he's nearly 15.
@@howtoavenge1016 I was with FNaF since early highschool, around 13 (21 now). The fanbase started growing up a little bit I think and as newer stuff came out, the kiddies migrated to that instead although an impression was left on the franchise ever since then that the games should appeal to children for some reason (despite the dark premise) so that's ruined it a little bit in my eyes.
The thing about these fanbases (coming from personal experience(regrettably)), is that they usually are made up of outsiders or people who struggle socially and often times, that means young teens and preteens who don't fit in or don't know who they are yet. These people latch onto things that they enjoy and have growing communities so they can fit in and be part of a larger space that they can interact with and meet people that share the interest. The issue is that if they can't find anything like that IRL then they become obsessive about it and since they don't have much of an identity yet, they start basing their identity on that community and interest. Criticism on that thing become attacks on them as a person, they become sheltered and sensitive and it's just a slippery slope. Many grow up and out of that mentality and if they choose to stay a part of that community or interest then it just becomes a thing that they like rather than a personality-defining trait. FNF's community is in that same boat right now. A couple years time it may change.
holy crap thank you so much for talking about mirth. used to be a subscriber for hers, found out that she was a freak as it happened, and its always been bothering me that it just got swept under the rug and her account is still growing. hopefully with your video people will start talking more about what she's done and she won't get away with it.
I definitely think this is happening fortunately
I remember when FNF was still fairly new. It was honestly nice, especially when Whitty came around. When I heard about the Sky mod. I immediately knew the golden days were over.
If a fandom gets filled with kids, you know the fandom is gonna or might attract P*dos and creeps
The problem is the fact that a majority of people wouldnt think of NSFW work while making something at first, so blaming bbpantsu for not realizing that is like blaming SEGA for how the fanbase acts.
when a 17 y/o "dating" someone younger than them is called a pedophile, it really tells you what the average age demographic this game has
I think it also shows that people don’t know what a pedophile is, or what grooming is. A 17 year old dating a 14 year old is literally just a normal relationship, but the terminally online younger generations are so warped by social media grandstanding they have almost every aspect of romantic relationships skewed.
legally, to be considered pedophilia, it must be someone above 16 and it must be a 4 year age gap iirc (in the USA)
17 and 14 is not normal idk what ur talking about lmfao. one is JUST leaving elementary school and becoming a 9th grader while one is so close to graduating and entering college.
what's actually warped and skewed about 'aspects or romantic relationships' in this society is the complete loss of MORAL boundary rather than just legal.
An 18yo may TECHNICALLY be a legal 'adult' in the eyes of the law but realistically they aren't due to the fact that their brain isn't even fully developed so when someone calls out an older person (20s and up) for dating a 18-19yo, using the words 'grooming' and 'pedophilic' isn't far off and this is coming from a 14yo victim of sexual grooming and abuse from older guys online :p@@kman9884
@@kman988417 and 14 isn't normal as they are in 2 different places in life and mental development but that being said a 17 yr old can't be a pedo since they themselves are minors
@@kman988417 and 14 is definitely not ok one is still well under the age of majority while one is closer to the age of majority and is getting ready to transition to being an adult.
How do pedophiles, as a concept, even exist? How can someone, no matter their mental state, see a bunch of teens/prepubescents going "only in ohio sigma skipiti ohio rizz gyat fanum tax among us, yeah I got that skipiti sussy baka rizz" and think "Oh my God that's so hot."?
I don’t think the pedos are going after kids in search of conversation.
Like sly you take a 9 year old kid over a 27 pretty woman
Honestly, I don’t even care how old skye’s creator actually is. They’re a child, y’know? It’s fucked up for anyone to harass and bully any minor, it doesn’t matter if they’re 12 or 14 because there’s no difference. They’re just children. It’s heartbreaking that the kid had to endure a bunch of creeps, honestly.
I really like bb panzu's idea, shame it didn't turn out the way they were hoping. For some reason the internet hates kids just enjoying shit.
at least theres one person on this video not blaming literal middle schoolers for being taken advantage of
When your Dance Dance Revolution knock off game has a longer Degenerate video length than bronies, furries, and 4chan
You have to dive into the Geometry Dash degenerates, Tom. There’s so much degeneracy in the community, particularly grooming. High profile creators as well. As someone who was once very involved in that community, I would pay to see you cover it.
i didn’t even know there was a geometry dash FANDOM wtf
@@gabby8912there is, it is very bad 💀
Amor altar
@@destroythingWait he’s also on the geometry dash community as well? A community I didn’t even think existed until now?
@@theschoolgy1985 Just how bad exactly are we talking here
I had given my 11-year-old daughter access to the internet these past 2 months, but all these videos have hit me like a truck. She will not be going on the internet until her senior year. Thank you for shedding light on these things.
I never really knew about the dangers of social media myself until after age 15, but I remember an older guy sexting me and trying to do roleplay over Instagram, and it started out with what I believe was a 20 questions type game. Now, I look back at it and realize that holy shit it was bad, but what's even worse is the fact that now, there are literal infants online dealing with that stuff and brushing it off as a normal occurrence. I didn't get my first phone until 14, but there are 2 year olds with tablets and iPhones now and it terrifies me to no extent.
I can relate to this so hard. As a teen, you desperately want to feel mature and acknowledged, so you think it's fine to engage sexually with people online, only realizing years later how horrific that mindset was. I went through shit online as a 15-16 year old that genuinely gives me chills to this day. And that was _years_ ago, like you said, it's even worse nowadays
Which is why when I become a father, I'll raise my kids on the shows that I used to watch as a kid.
My favorite was always Franklin the Turtle.
@@CaatsGoMoooo I gotten my first phone at 13, and the wildest shit I remember doing that terrified me was watching shows illegally.
….but I seen 10 yos on discord now, talking to 16 yos……in “servers”. I go into rabbit holes sometimes, since I wonder how bad can someone get. It gotten to the point where I expect the unexpected. Humanity is weird. It was back then, and still is now.
Crazy how now 11 yos are now dealing with “mental illnesses”, “gender discrimination”, “toxic relationships”, and so on. But what can we do heh
I haven't been truly active on any social media platform until 2019 with Reddit. I mean, sure, I did have my Facebook and Twitter accounts at before, but I never did anything on them, I just had the accounts on there for the sake of having an account on there.
Lucky, I didn't get my first phone until I was 15.
As an adult who grew up on newgrounds, this entire thing is just so gross. Kids who are not being supervised will fall into traps and very disgusting rabbit holes. I am so glad that my kids computer is not in their room, and they are also not allowed to chat online yet. When I was 16-18, I was groomed by someone online, and that experience is so unearthly. To think that this is now happening to preteens and younger makes me want to vomit.
16 to 18 isn't a child...how in the hell do you get groomed at that age?
@@suelancaster6959 I was raised by military helicopter parents in the canadian pmq (private military quarters) and because of that, I honestly did not know the outside world of my home and "inner life" that my parents constructed for me. Even as an adult, I now sometimes have troubles getting out of my comfort zone, and at many times, I am still kind of childish and naive. If you have kids, please, for my sake, don't over protect them.
@@suelancaster6959 You're absolutey disgusting. 16 is literally a teenager and they're barely learning the real world and are just finding themselves. Especially since everyone's mental age can vary. Being talked to sexually and groomed makes anyone of any age feel disgusted or vulnerable. I dont know if you ever have been groomed, but if not you clearly don't understand why or how it could affect someone so catastrophically. A grown ass man looking at a 16 year old and manipulating them is something that happens alot unfortunately. Just- please educate yourself on this topic dude 😬
@@suelancaster6959 16-17 is a minor. Not a really young child but still gotta be extremely careful around those teens if you’re over the age of 19.
@@suelancaster6959 for your information according to developmental psychology people only truly mature once they hit about their mid 20s so
The Amor wasn't as bad as the others. He kept his word and was not defending himself. He fully took blame. I used to listen to his music at bedtime tho
"You're dating a child"
"So what"
I know everyone keeps saying this but this dudes upload schedule is inhuman, mad respect to Turkey Tom
fr
Good chance he stored a stockpile for Christmas season, muchlike quite a few RUclipsrs at the moment
He sits in his room at his desk chugging energy drinks all day every day, why are you surprised
*Fredrik Knudsen silently sweating profusely in the corner*
I remember joining this fandom once it was still starting out and it was relatively small at the time. I'm still stunned at how dangerously chaotic it has grown. Five chapters worth of so much drama covered all in one video, jesus that isn't even the half of it once you open up the can of worms that is the Sonic.EXE mod. I try my hardest to look on the positive side of the fandom through focusing on the coolest mods releasing. But man, I'd be lying if I said these situations don't bring my faith in the fandom down. I just wish people are able to never repeat this degeneracy so that we can go hack to making mods on whatever we liked and be chill. It's getting exhausting to see this game get bombarded by negativity because of these kinds of rotten apples that are almost everywhere in the community. But I'm not saying we should sweep it under the rug either and I'm glad to see that there's still more awareness being brought to these crooked creeps. Especially Mirth, I'm surprised she's gotten away with it for this long.
The problem is with their mental health, they are constantly starving for NSFW art.
Fandoms are really toxic, and also mostly lurking with degenerates, creeps and weirdos. When FnF started to blow up, I was like "hey, this game kinda dope and also a tribute to the NG community of which I used to play several games on there when I was younger", played trough the game, downloaded some mods, watched some youtubers play popular mods at that time and then after 4 months I generally forgot about it since I saw it for what it was developed as initially. Over these years I did hear of certain dramas going on but never bothered to look deeper since I never partake in actively participating in fandoms or online communities in general. And god damn did the community twist this game harder than an alligator with its prey. Since I'm also part of gen z ( 19 years old ), I'm honestly concerned what these kids may be exposed to on the internet ( yes, I also did see some shit on the internet as a kid with unsupervised internet access, but at least I wasn't groomed or taken advantage of since I knew from that age that you never know who's truly on the other side of the screen ) in these days, especially on social media. I literally feel more like a boomer by the day, it makes me think what will happen with the newer generations in this increasingly rapidly changing virtual space, since there's so much shit going on at the same time that you can't be bothered to see it all.
Also for those that plan to have kids in the future, please always be careful and monitor what your child is doing on the internet, and when he gets old enough make sure to teach him how to easily identify attempts of grooming and exploiting ( and the consequences of them ) on the internet and to never share critical personal information, like his full name and/or adress to potential weirdos and creeps online.
I seriously miss the old days of Friday night funkin the days when whitty was popular and the days where we were still waiting for a week seven and there were no leaks but now it feels like the community is just destroying itself
Based
I originally joined the fandom because I loved the art in the game. I used to make fan art of the original and fanmade characters and it's actually what got me into digital art. I left the fandom in January 2022, when many creators I followed were outed. I still enjoy digital art, but the reason I got into it still haunts me to this day.
My kids are doing sports instead of internet games
Good.
Good
dude get a job stop watching youtube
This fanbase is the closest real-life parallel to Lord of the Flies
I’m so mentally ruined.
I started audibly laughing when he said “Friday night funkin”
As someone who was genuienly invested in the development of FNF and got to whitness most of these incidents as they happened in real time, watching this video was just depressing. FNF went from a chill community to a toxic and pedo infested hellhole within like 2 months. I despise the community for all the awful things they have done and continue to do, but even then, just seeing this was just as soul crushing as it was hilarious (for some parts). A part of me died inside when he started discussing the sky situation knowing how stupid and mishandled that situation was, and knowing that everything went downhill after that point. The development of the game as well as the community has just been an absolute fucking mess. And the fact that all of this happened within a few months is just insane. Like, seriously what happened??
I get pissed whenever people use the argument “its not all of the community that is bad” as if that just magically fixes everything. So many communities like furries, fnf, roblox, minecraft etc have so many awful people and everybody just sweeps them under the rug with that garbage argument and act like they just fixed the whole community.
@@FatLoser445 honestly some use it as a coping mechanism since many are ib the community for months of even years and want justification for not wasting said time. Personally i feel like the bad should be shown to the public as to warn people on what they w get into and to be careful
I fuckin hate pedos, they fuck up everything. They go everywhere like a goddamn plague, hurt and traumatize kids, then dissappear with minimal accountability.
Some might argue it's the parents fault for not supervising their kids and what kinds of games they're playing. Personally, I think it's a combination of that AND the creepy people and groomers there.
If you have to do research to know if your "relationship" is LEGAL then it is problematic
I am genuinely concerned about the fandom spaces. Almost all fandom spaces are slowly degrading into cesspools..i really hope no one else gets hurt in amy way
@@SPOONY4k exactly, so many adults dont act like adults and are so uncouth and nasty
This is what happens when corporal punishment is criminalized and everyone gets a participation trophy for showing up to school instead of learning
@@weiner01103 Unfortunately that's the way people have always behaved. They're just broadcasting it for everyone to see now.
@@BiggieTrismegistus yeah ik
Who the fuck is Amy?
What is the "Amy Way"?
I swear we need better parents to regulate what their children do online.
Honestly at this point the internet should be 18+ and only 18+.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 I can’t tell you how much shit I saw as kid that still sticks with me now
@@Bolognaman8789 me too man, me too. I just wish I could go back to when I was 8 and barely knew what a phone even was.
Timestamp :
0:00 Intro + Disclaimer - Turkey Tom
0:39 Sponsor - Surfshark
2:33 Chapter One - The Sky Incident
10:40 Chapter Two - MayMays4Days (Sunday Night Suicide)
25:28 Chapter Three (It's says "Five" but it's not) - Kodomodachi/Mirth (It's says The "/V/-Tan Incident" but he is at the end)
32:03 Chapter Four - AmorAltra
38:35 Chapter Five (The actual one) - The /V/-Tan Incident
43:44 Outro - Turkey Tom
No, i'm not doing it on every of his videos. Maybe some, but not all of them.
I wish there was no restriction (unless that is no longer the case) to put in chapters
tysm!!!
Why is every bad person's first excuse "oh it was a hacker!!!!" 💀
Hey Tom, little editing advice, you should add a transparent rectangle the same color as the background on top of the parts of texts that you skip, it helps the viewers read as the same time as you, like at 10:04. It happens a bit here and there in the video, and it's kinda confusing when text is skipped, so, making a little difference between the text you read and the original text would make it easier to follow!
I think a 40% opacity square the same color as the background should be good enough! (and if there are gradiants, you could use blend modes, idk what's the best, depends on the situation and your preferences)
Anyway, have a great day/night!
what a genuinely wholesome comment on an insanely dark video
hope he appreciates this as much as i do :)