The way Stampy took care of Lee was fucking legendary dude, no drama, no bullshit, he just took care of business. Sent him off and carried on, what an absolute g
all while keeping the kids oblivious to something so horrible. my younger self had no idea about the situation. which seems to be a super hard task considering how other channels handled stuff like this.
It's admirable the way he handled it. Stampy proected his audience. gave Lee the dignity he probably didn't deserve, and also stayed out of the remote parenting realm. What Lee did is something better left for parents to explain to their kids, not an online content creator.
stampy's a real g for dealing with lee's actions the way he did. i remember when i was younger seeing that farewell video and i didn't suspect a thing. if anything bad comes out about him i'll be genuinely heartbroken.
I'm so glad stampy wasn't a terrible person, matter of fact hearing the way he sent lee away from his channel was heartbreaking. He really loved and cared for his audience and wanted to protect them.
Even as someone who missed the whole minecraft youtuber boat, for being too old. The stampy send-off for Lee makes me sad. How stampty tried so hard to make something so terrible be so wholesome for his young audience.
As a kidlet I had no idea at the time and was sad to see a reoccurring character go. Nowadays, I started exploring internet history and drama and found out the truth; which really just makes that whole memory awfully depressing for me :(
the moment he mentioned stampy, my heart dropped because i didn't want to hear about how he was some kind of horrible person, but i was so glad that this wasn't the case
I audibly yelled in denial. He was a legend, an engine in my childhood along with PopularMMOS, and overall I absolutely loved him. Thank GOD he wasn't revealed as the awful person here, God bless him.
sure it might be actually true,but there isnt really any proof whether or not it actually happened same shit happened recently with the kwite situation where people immedietally took sides and most people took the side of the accuser,only difference is that there was a response fairly quickly with the recent situation,not so much with the lee situation also the mirror used the source from another not so credible site
The way that Stampy concealed the sexual abuse allegations by pretending to send Lee away in a video is so weirdly heartbreaking and sweet, almost like a parent shielding his kids.
@@ibapreppie Lol how is that “hiding a pedo”? He’s literally doing the best thing possible in his position. He’s allowing the authorities to handle the situation while protecting his young audience by 1. Refusing to host a predator on his channel where he would have access to countless children and 2. Maintaining a child-friendly, safe, and lighthearted environment. Kids don’t need to know about stuff like that outside of basic knowledge they would use to keep themselves safe. He handled things better than, like, 90% of RUclipsrs probably would.
I worked with Bashur briefly at the height of his popularity (when he was still actively working on the hobo series). Building sets for the show, as well as stuff for the sort of mmorpg server he wanted to start based on that series. He was a fun guy to work for/with, but the thing I remember most is just that he would come up with all these ideas of what he wanted to do, but unfortunately he never had the will or dicipline to see it done. Which was mainly why I left. Sad to see he how he ended up only to pass when finally seeming to get better.
I straight cried when Lee left. I had no clue about what happened just that Lee did something really bad. Massive respect to Stampy for keeping the children in mind.
Not having seen any of Stampy's content, I have to say he's kind of a genius for pulling that off. No drama in his channel. Just business. A normal sendoff.
It reminds me of that blues clues episode where Steve gets sent off to college, only Steve wasnt a hormonal teenager that broke into his aunt’s house and nutted into her underwear.
I didn't know Bashur died. I really enjoyed his content and have a bunch of videos saved on an external HD. There are so many random things my husband and I quote from his Bashcraft and Legend of Hobo series.
Same, man. I almost teared up when it said he died. I'm conflicted at feeling so bad, since his relationship was kind of sus. But Jesus. That dude suffered. I hope he's somewhere nice or at least resting easy.
Stampy is absolutely amazing. Even if it would be dark he knew he had the option to just explain what lee did but instead he tried to appeal to his audience and keep them pure while getting the message across that lee isn’t coming back nor would he be welcome back. I’m so so glad I was one of his fans years back, it’s only now that I realize how much good he did for us.
With the reputation that the minecraft community has online. It makes me happy that people like this do exist that actually seem to give af about the people they entertain.
Bashurs video is literally only missing sad music to be the classic emotional manipulation. His breakdown, his therapy... Maybe dude shouldve just admitted he made a mistake and sexted a child as an adult instesf of playing the technicality card
im so glad i grew up with mainly stampy videos, it felt so wholesome and i never tried to look into the Lee thing as i just thought it was like a normal show thing.
Totally agree. Back then when we used to "live under a rock" things were much simpler. Nowadays when I hop on RUclips the first things I see on my recommendation is some roblox RUclipsr who got exposed for being a creep.
He loved his young audience, not like these weirdos, but he stopped using profanity in his videos after he gained an audience and stopped doing average playthroughs and really treated his channel like a cartoon. I'm happy I grew up mainly watching him lol
No matter what, I'm glad Bashur appeared to have learnt from his past mistakes. I may have never watched a video from Bashur, but I always believe people can be redeemed. It's all too unfortunate he passed away. May he rest in peace.
Man clearly had a lot going on and had an all too public breakdown, i honestly just felt bad for him getting dogpiled on back then. RIP Melon man AKA Toasty
I never watched Stampy’s content before. I remember in the earlier days though, my younger brother would reference him all the time, since he was a kid then. Reasons because, I hate to say this. But back then, I generalized all Minecraft RUclipsrs to be 'annoying'. But the way this man made that send off was so sweet and heartfelt for the kids, despite the darkness behind the situation. It made me think about how there are actual Content creators who make good family-friendly content to watch. Everything within standards and good morals. What's best for their audience. Then there are 'Family Friendly' Videos, who hide behind an innocent façade while being completely sleazy. They don't care much, as long as they get the clicks. I’m glad that people actually found out what truly happened years later. It's probably for the best, where they have already grown enough to be able to understand the context. That was a class act on his part. Makes me actually want to find out more about his content now.
imma be completely real, i have never heard lee’s voice before watching this video, and seeing the footage from his own channel gave me whiplash on a more serious note however, Stampy’s method of letting his viewers know that Lee was leaving and not coming back was executed in such a spectacular way. i remember watching the video as a kid and thinking nothing of it until a few years later when i found out what really happened. i appreciate the way that whole situation was handled on Stampy’s side of things, because i can only imagine how hard it was to know that someone who was so close to his channel was such a terrible person behind the scenes, and later having to find a way to essentially boot him from the playthrough while keeping everything PG.
I think something sounds a bit strange. When Lee is 16 and getting fame. It's an older schoolgirl 18 and aunt. When he is getting money people get jealous. Dail Record and mirror can write anything as seen in JD trial with the Sun that got popular for page 3 topless girls. Our news isn't like American news we have no obligation to tell the truth. A work mate of mine used to pick up a newspaper full of porn and conspiracy stories.
LforLee never turned out to be a pedophile, it was false allegations that flew around the internet along with "He went to prison for child m0lestation" when in reality, he had never been convicted of any crime like that and didn't go to prison for any amount of time (especially for such an act of indecency meaning YEARS of prison, not months with his second-to-last video on the channel being evidence of that) and he personally chose to leave Stampy because he knew sticking around would affect the channel and knew that he couldn't let people ruin Stampy's reputation like that.
@@dikorushballs8810 wdym lee was innocent? It's all over the news. Sure the news has been known to do weird or stupid stuff however he did it to a close friend to his family and same thing with an 18 year old in what way is that innocent? Thats harrassment, sure it isnt that bad but it does not mean he is innocent. You shouldn't assume that harrassment isnt so bad, it's not as bad as some of the other crimes but still, it's bad.
Friendly reminder that creeps and weirdos are in *every single community.* No place is truly free of degenerates, you just don't know they're there. Keep your head on a swivel, friends.
@@whiteperson1742 You never truly who who's on the other side of the screen so is always a good idea to keep internet people at an arms length and never being too trusting. That's what we got told to do as kids back in the early '00s, who knows if nowadays kids gets told that
@@Homodemon I don't know think they do. Even when I was young among kids who were also from the 2000s on the net, they'd talk and get way too personal with each other. Nowadays it's even worse and it makes me worry for this generation... Edit: worry for this generation out of concern, not some boomer way. Wanted to clarify.
@@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 Yeah I was thinking that too. I think the attitude of "I'm very smart I wouldn't let something like that happen to me" kinda of comes hand in hand with children's lack of worldliness, they just don't have enough foresight or experience to imagine scenarios in which their lives could be really at risk and that their actions can have enough power to make them hurt themselves or hurt others. Mixing that with the literal infinite space of creeps and weirdoes that is the internet and you got a ticking bomb. Is more of a transgenerational thing, I'm sure that back then, the fact we were the only ones that knew how to use a computer already gave us a sense of knowing better, so now is the same with phones, the 100 different social media pages, memes, communities and the possibility of being online 24/7 that young people are more likely to be experts of than grown adults so is always this thing of "you don't know what you're talking about, I can handle this stuff, I'm not dumb." But sometimes is not just about being dumb, is about letting your guard down, being vulnerable and trusting too much. Yes, people on the other side of the screen are human like you. But you never know with certainty what kind of human they are, and that, not because you're in a social media full of kids it means they're really ALL kids in there...
Truer words have never been said. Keep your communities classy, if you let these people fester they will ruin everything, up to and including people's lives.
what Stampy did was very clever imo, he didn't say what happened bc he knew how young his audience was but still wrote him off which was a bold but morally correct move
I actually feel bad for bashur, out of all of these RUclipsrs he had the most understandable crime, being in a relationship with someone 3 years younger than you is totally normal though it gets kinda weird at that specific age of puberty. The rest of the controversy is unproven and despite all that bashur was subject to mental destruction for years, the court system is extremely stressful for young people and once he got away from it it's like PTSD just bringing this situation back up then he was essentially bullied and mentally harassed into being a lolcow which is fucked up on its own. Thank whatever God exists that he had a therapist. Bashur was in his 30s when he died which means half of this man's life was constant mental anguish and torture all because he dated someone he could have gone to school with
it is weird. why would someone 3 years older be interested in someone 3 years younger as teenagers? Because the person 3 years older is either emotionally underdeveloped or has such serious problems that the more mature people their age have zero interest
I can’t tell you how many grooming stories I’ve heard come out of minecraft, even the smallest servers. I myself almost was by a 23 year-old when I was 13, but thankfully my mom caught on right away. You just can’t trust anyone EDIT: Y’all in the replies saying W mom, you’re right, but unfortunately this was like the only time she ever got involved. Outside of this I was unrestricted and genuinely being evil online lmao
One of my friends whom I played Minecraft with was targeted by someone that was 23 as well. We were both in middle school, and sort of knew what was going on, so we just cut off contact with him.
10:18 Can we take a moment to appreciate how stampy handles his goodbye? Obviously his audience is filled with children so this is such a wholesome way of basically ending ties with him but in a child friendly way
@@skeleton819 He didnt leave the audience thinking Lee was innocent, he left his audience thinking Lee was gone and not coming back. There was no concept of innocent or guilty to his audience because they lacked the ability to understand the subject matter. He recognizes that his audience is probably either incapable of discerning or very sensitive and he decided it was more important to keep the children that watch him from that part of the world and life. They will grow up and they will learn about it and other people like him, but in the mean time its important for the kids to be kids. Its very much the most professional and caring way to handle the situation.
@@skeleton819 No because then kids would try to look into it. The way he did it was smart. He wanted to be completely disconnected from Lee. Also Lee was never convicted of anything so he isn’t a criminal (from my knowledge, I don’t remember where I read this)
Yea like it was in the past and most of the stuff may not even be true and could just been pressure to making him go insane. At least for the most part he can rest easy now. I’m sure he needs a break from all that has happened
@@kasagrim7215 i really hope alot of those were allegations / not true. Poor guy ended when he was about to make it back. Even while he had Covid that when he gets better he'll put his heart and soul into it again. And then sadly passing... RIP Bashurverse
@@Minious1020 we can only assume his past was dark. But he tried to learn from his faults and be a different man. Yet. The internet and everyone tends to change and not see his progression on trying to change. Sometimes I wonder if those pandemic or this new era is affect most content creators due to well. Because people grow. And age. It hurts. But someday I hope things can go well
@@kasagrim7215 they must have found it funny. I remember people making edits to his breakdown. back then most cases of "justice" were for the sake of publicity and holding people accountable wasn't actually the main focus. i feel like bashur may have done some things in the past. but when keemstar realised how much of a gold mine he was he decided to push further and cover stuff that may not have even been true. If there was a "degenerates of youtube" video, keemstar should be on that list. he has stated multiple times that he does not believe in mental illness and he has even made funn of SA victims countless times.
so grateful stampy didnt have some sort of dark backstory i hadn't heard about. sometimes i go back to his channel and still watch his videos, thank god he wasn't the problem, though.
Ending off with Basher's story was honestly a good call. We all know too well how things go for the victims of true predators, but understanding what happens to the victims of false accusations is important too. Way too often people jump at instantly believing the accuser, because it's a horrible thing to lie about, but the world is full of horrid people.
@@simenon5929 that’s a really brain dead take. The only evidence is what Tom discussed in the video that let to his original controversy. Everything after that allegation wise is not backed up at all. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s innocent till proven guilty. If there was more evidence out there I feel like Tom would have mentioned such in his video.
@@Zach-dc8ws Trust he deserves little of your sympathy. Tom did do a bad take on it because theres way more lore. I remember the drama while it was happening.
True, I remember him reacting to his own video of him having his mental breakdown, his drama with his GF, how his brand went from minecraft to vlogs where you could see his day to day life of smoking weed and eating candy. After seeing his channel banner blacked out and all his videos removed I assumed he moved on from youtube, learning he died is kind of surreal since I thought he was still alive.
I kind of feel bad for him cause what he was accused of seems way less extreme than the other people on this list. He was 18 dating a 15 year old right? Which is a little concerning, but its only a 3 year difference. The others were like 25 year olds dating 14 year olds, way worse in comparison. I felt bad seeing his mental breakdown, and he seemed like he was genuinely trying to improve before his unexpected death
I have very high respect for Stampy, not only because he was a huge part of my childhood and that he influenced me enough to pursue film making but, also because of how intelligent and strong he actually is as when controversy arose, he never let that get to him on camera. He'd just continue to play video games and when one of his friends did something awful, he paid no attention to them and just stopped collaborating with them. Stampy is like the Mr. Rogers of Generation Z and I hope that his content remains to be viewed and loved by upcoming generations because he is an absolute genius when it comes to children's entertainment.
All i knew about him is that his very child friendly, the second i saw his name in the list i was like oh nooo is stampy bad or smth? But no seems like Stampy is just a sweetheart and im happy for this
@@ObviOneKenobilegit my heart dropped when I heard his name. I'd never heard of anything bad to do with Stampy and I used to watch him all the time as a kid, he was one of the people that introduced me to minecraft and always came across as just super nice and sweet.
Growing up with these RUclips channels it makes me sad and sick to my stomach to not only hear the whole lee situation again but also realize that I was so close to finding out some horrible, horrible things to hear about when I was so young
Honestly I really hated the amount of degeneratcy that was being generated in the Minecraft community. Because when I was Younger on RUclips I always find it weird and disgusting seeing Minecraft contact slowly change the deeper you go in. It was even worse when you had futuristichub making one of his weird videos relating to Minecraft. It was just the motivation I needed to walk away from all Minecraft videos.🐱
I feel the same. Within the last couple of years not only have I distanced myself from the community but also the game in it's entirety due to some events that impacted me on servers. It's weird how a children's game can become so degenerate and toxic, but I shouldnt be surprised
Yeah. I remember loving his videos a lot as a elementary schooler when Minecraft was called cringe by the public. 20 years old now and it hurts just seeing how he turned out and how much a piece of shit Adam was. Guess its the phrase "Never meet your hero" working here
Funny how Lee stresses that he's never been to prison Going to prison for stealing a car is a LOT less bad than being charged as a sex offender. Different level of violating somebody's rights.
No, it's a lot less bad than having sex with or molesting a minor. I have seen some b.s. reasons for being placed on the registry, and it's not so black and white. You are right though, when a minor is involved or when r*pe is involved it is always worse.
@@lolmanyeah1 regardless, Lee was involved in some deviant online behavior. This is just factual. He had problems. We all need to just admit that. People on here all trying to justify Lee and some even so delusional as to say he is innocent and was framed LOL..
@@JonHop1 yeah pedos can fuck off. If it was a "bullshit reason" for being registered, like a cop catching you peeing on the side of the road for "indecent exposure" or something while having a bad day, you would say that. Can't imagine being too hard to say like "yeah I got registered as a sex offender because i couldn't hold it with no toilet around, I'm waiting fighting it now"
When you said Stampy, my heart fell because I thought he had done something horrible. I loved him growing up. Once you said Lee, I was so upset. I remember seeing him so much in Stampy's videos, and I remember watching "Bye Bear". Lee is a horrible person, and should've gotten time for what he did. Absolutely messed up.
I never really got into bashurs content but seeing his mental breakdown I can say that they're legit breakdowns and not attention seeking. I myself have minor mental instability in part, worsened by covid and I wish I did because his high energy vibes probably would've helped me recover to not even be in the spot I am in now. Rest in piece my man, whether what is said about you is true or not
I mean, yeah, they are, that doesn't really mean anything though, he can have been a pedophile(well, he was a pedophile, it's just a question of how far he took it) and also had a mental breakdown because of being called out on it, they aren't exclusive and they aren't remotely comparable levels of "wrong", if he doesn't want to have a breakdown for getting called out on being a pedophile, don't date a 14 year old when you're 18, it's crazy how easy it is
I used to watch sky and all of the crew. Bashurs meltdowns where insane when they went live. You should watch the "atleast in the end I got to fuck her in the ass" clip
Yeah, it saddens me that even after Bashur's death, people continue to talk about his controversy, and try to pile on more allegations, or ask questions about what was true and what wasn't. Truth is, everyone has done some fucked up shit, and some people, such as Bashur did not deserve to have his own past shoved into the spotlight all of a sudden. Sure, theres alot of people who do deserve it, like full on molestors and pedos, but people fr decided to jump on him for a relationship he had when he was 18? He wouldn't have had his life together by then, sure, you can give him a slap on the hand but its hard to deny that he would've been fully aware of what he was doing at that time. I cant comment on the rumours about the 10 year old but as far as I know, if its not confirmed, it doesn't need to be talked about, or overly spread. I really hope he found some form of peace before he died.
@@chaoticcow4357 bro dated someone who was underage when he was old enough to know that's wrong, people deserve to know he is someone who's at risk of endangering children, he doesn't like that? Damn that sucks, guess he shouldn't have dated someone underage. "everyone has done fucked up shit", normally I'd go "but not like this" but, you know? No. Not everyone has done "fucked up shit", in fact I'd say most people have not. This wouldn't be a valid excuse even if it was true, and it's not even true
@@jamesbailey6257 i have no idea where you got the excusing part from, I am in no way saying him dating a 15 year old was ok or able to be excused, but it shouldnt have been made as much of a controversy as it was then. All i'm saying is he was 18, fully fresh out of highschool and hadn't gotten anything together, and suddenly when he did get his stuff together when he was older, people started digging into his background. Which was fine, but it gets ridiculous when it goes beyond that, and several videos are posted to bash on this guy. Doing that is equivalent to saying kys to someone on repeat, its wrong, and doesn't make you a better person. Theres a difference between informing and provoking.
Oh wow. I was a HUGE fan of Bashurverse back in middle school, I even managed to get in a round of Minecraft hunger games with him that he recorded and posted to RUclips. I knew of the past allegations later on, but I had no idea he passed during COVID. I had really cherished that match I managed to play with him, I was going though a rough time back then. Learning the extent of all this feels really weird now.
bashur is probably the only one in the video who can claim "innocence." he clearly was pushed off the edge by Keem, and only went downhill for him to completely breakdown in front of millions. he didn't deserve that treatment for something he already paid for. rest in peace to a staple.
Bashur’s story is sad, man needed help but all he got was ridicule, the last moments of his life were probably miserable and I kinda feel sorry for him
yeah. i'm not saying it's right to be 18 and talk into a 15 year old, but it's definitely not pedophilia. People of stretch the term pedophilia is so bad and I hate it. Just minimize real victims 
This really shattered what little joy of childhood I had left hiding in the dark corners of my memories. Learning the horrors committed by people I forgot that I loved watching. Sad…
Out of all of them, I think Lionmaker was the biggest creep of them all. I commend Colossal for calling him out and shredding his arguments during the interview.
@the cat I agree that jinbop is a creep but I feel like he has less of a chance to be a repeat offender if you catch my drift. Lionmaker repeated several times over and just seems like a pedo thru and thru
Man, Fuck, I'm 20. I used to watch a ton of these guys when I was 9-12.. Where did it all go? I pay taxes, I have a 56 hour work week, I live on my own, I drink alcohol (Canada things) And there goes the rose tinted glasses, everyone of these people did terrible shit. Sjin, Lee, Sky, Tobuscus, Miniladd... All of these people had an influence on my life.
Sjin was a fucking she'll shock for me. Dude literally was me and my cousin's favorite. Honestly the only reason I'm still subbed is to see how long it'll take till his channel cracks. The only issue is the legitimacy of his crimes, which has some murky parts to it. None the less he still harassed Zoey and other female members.
LforLee never turned out to be a pedophile, it was false allegations that flew around the internet along with "He went to prison for child m0lestation" when in reality, he had never been convicted of any crime like that and didn't go to prison for any amount of time (especially for such an act of indecency meaning YEARS of prison, not months with his second-to-last video on the channel being evidence of that) and he personally chose to leave Stampy because he knew sticking around would affect the channel and knew that he couldn't let people ruin Stampy's reputation like that.
I feel like the majority of everyone is missing the fact that he was 16, literally still a kid and the youngest one in his story, everyone he talked to and acted inappropriately towards being a legal adult while he was not, I wouldn't really consider him a predator by any means, just a kid making very terrible choices.
The whole thing that happened with Bashur and Sky was probably the worst thing Ive watched go down on the internet. Wrecked my childhood for sure man. And when the news came out about Bashurs passing I felt so guilty for being sad. What he did was wrong but he was such a huge part of my childhood.
He dated someone Who was 3 years younger than him that was his crime lmao its fine to feel sad about him it wasnt Just being exposed his past another thing was that other youtubers was bullying him like keemstar he commited a mistake and that cost him everything the bullying made his mental illnesss be worse and his last years were torture because of all the backlash there was, this man was sorry about his actions basically he died while still haunted by his mistake
@@Gonzaly99His crime was trying to use social media as a career. Idk why people don’t realize they can’t handle it and remove themselves from it before it’s to late. It’s a shame to see.
That dude who kicked rainbowed out was a real one, let homie live with him when under the impression he was a good person but didn't try to defend a predator, dude gets my respect
I briefly met Bashur at a convention in early 2016 and he seemed just absolutely miserable in a way I don’t think I’ll ever forget. I wouldn’t say he was a good person or anything like that, after everything that did come out over the years. But he definitely needed help rather than the constant ridicule and spotlight.
That's because bashur didn't do shit and Keemstar was using everything for clicks and emotionally manipulating him. Look into the whole story it's so fucked up, he had no one. His girlfriend was even using him. Yet he was still painted out as the bad guy, there was literally never any proof of anything. He was just a miserable man being kicked over and over again. It's really sad, and Keemstar still has a platform.
@@nowwepart It's honestly really fucking sad, I hate it when people accuse others of life changing shit and not having any proof or evidence of it; but that's the internet for you unfortunately.
It really pulls on my heart from hearing bashur yell like how he did. I could never put into words how fucking crippled he felt in that moment. From what i gathered, he admitted to a mistake, and people began to beat him to a pulp. I hope wherever he is, he's doing better now.
What Bashur did was clearly wrong, but man, Keem sure has a talent for pushing people over the edge of sanity by taking their problematic actions and creating content about it/fabricating shit related to it until they have a mental break.
He was 17 when their relationship started and she 15 and besides talking they didn't even do anything, man f*ck that noise. I Had people with higher age gap in my Class. i Am 27 and my Gf is 24 people gonna shoot me now?
@@Azqalihm as an american, its the most arbitrary fkin thing in the universe, the real age of being an actual adult with the mentality of it is more like 21-25
Dude got mega fucked over. He was a scumbag with his live action stuff with his gf, and did not handle anything well, especially memeing his own mental breakdowns, but all of the shit he dealt with was unjustified with the info we have. I'd say I feel bad, but he makes it really hard to have sympathy for him.
@@murakii I was 18 before I graduated lmao, people looked at me weird because my gf was 17 when we graduated, we were in the same grade, just a few months apart, shit is wild.
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The good thing is, though, that Stampy himself has been good about handling it as best as he can given the main demographic of his audience. I remember watching his world videos in middle-ish school, and distinctly remember watching the episode where Lee left. Was none the wiser until after when I learned about what had happened. Still subscribed to Stampy. Lol
Lionmaker was my guy back in the day. Watched his videos religiously. Every single day. When all of a sudden he disappeared, I didn’t know why. My young self never bothered to look into it and I sort of just cut my losses and walked away. Now knowing what I do I’m heartbroken. Lionmaker, who used to be one of my favorite Minecraft RUclipsrs ended up doing unspeakable things. Never fun to learn about all these years later.
Bashur/Toast was someone I dearly loved watching. Was just getting back into watching his new channel and then he got sick and he didn’t recover. His last few twitter posts hurt. Still has an open discord community! His girlfriend and some mods keep it active and his gf has an art Instagram picturing the hard moments she’s had to face with Brandon’s passing. His story is one of the hardest and lengthiest to explain, and so many rumors and fake stories about him were spread and never even proven true. He did explain himself and the situation, but it was scary seeing these people and his own mental health chew away at him and a lot of people thought he was gonna off himself. He was strong and just as his world was stable, covid came and took him away. He doesn’t need to fight anymore, I hope he’s resting peacefully. I pray for his family and girlfriend, that pain can never fully go away.
@@mz4db how he can be a monster? He date 3 yrs younger girl. At some ppint of that relationship he was 17 an she was 15 ,it was okay then but whe he turned 18 it was nkt anymore. You americans are delusional.
Yeah that one was sad, 15 and 17 (or even 18) isn't really that big of a deal, especially if it wasn't sexual. Even legal in many states. Twisting that into him being a rapist at a totally different age was extremely cruel, especially after that public breakdown. Claiming that the breakdown made him into a lolcow was similarly cruel. Lolcows aren't otherwise normal people being bullied into having a mental breakdown, they're already insane people who would be doing dumb/funny stuff even without being bullied into it.
I didnt even know Basher died from covid. That's mildly upsetting. He may not of been the best person, but it's still upsetting to see, and now knowing of his passing
Minecraft degenerates come in many shapes and types, from the unhinged groomers, to the elsagate type content some people do, to even the r34/fetish artists on art sites like divientart, it is a whole can of evil and odd worms to go through.
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There's something gut-wrenching yet so heart-warming about Stampy coming up with a wholesome way to send off Lee in a way to protect the kids from knowing about the horrible things he did, I was so scared it would be a controversy about Stampy for a moment but it yet again he managed to be a sweetheart no matter what
It's honestly amazing the wave of nostalgia that hits me when I see stampy's Minecraft world, watched him when I was probably a bit older than the target audience but damn it was still enjoyable, only past Minecraft you tuber who has stayed pure in my mind
The Lionmaker interview with Colossal really showed how sick he was, even more so than his actions at the time. When Colossal asked him what his moral stance was on his age gap with PaigeThePanda, he couldn’t answer. Actual freak.
I mean, honestly what did you expect him to say? If he said it was bad they call him a hypocrite if he said it was good it wouldn’t have put him in further trouble. It’s a lose lose situation he got himself in
I was a victim of sexual abuse on the internet when i was 14 and the abuser was around years old 21. It drove me to insanity, i ended up being diagnosed with GAD and depression, needing to take a lot of medication and therapy. To this day i still get anxiety attacks about all of it. Thank you for talking about this. It is important to spread awareness to the people and especially the poor kids. EDIT: a lot of you dont understand people that have been abused on the internet, and are undermining what they have gone through. I suggest YOU go look it up and do some research. The internet is so strong that it can drive us to literally kill ourselves. Its not as easy as ”lol just turn the internet off”. These people were our friends, our buddies. These people were in their 20s chatting up little kids. You cant sit here and blame little kids when there is an ADULT in the situation. Who has the most mature brain? An adult or a kid? Get a grip. And when it happens to somebody close to you, dont tell me i didnt say so. I suggest doubters to look up the term ”grooming” and get educated before you assume shit about victims.
I remember when this channel was smaller with less than 100K subs. Now it has over 300K. Tom, you make amazing videos, and you are one of the best commentary channels out there.
When I was younger I didn’t know what happened to Lee, but I thought he was retiring/quitting. I did find out a couple years later. Also it’s scary how many fucking unhinged people there are on these platform praying on the most vulnerable people, that being kids. If you see this comment, this is your reminder to stay safe on the internet.
Love for Stampy. I love how he covers it off with another person taking his spot for L for Lee and say that he's leaving in a quite family friendly way. When I heard this back then, this made me hit hard without knowing what Lee has been doing before.
Seeing the scene of Lee's sendoff hits a whole lot harder now and makes me realize a lot of things. You can clearly see that from Lee's letter, Stampy didn't want to traumatize his young audience with Lee's crimes, so the writers hid it behind an unsuspecting goodbye letter and a cheerful atmosphere instead. For me it worked, I was 7-9 when I became a huge Stampy fan. I, now a 13-year-old, went until a few minutes ago not understanding why Lee left the series. Though this was a heartbreaking reveal to me, it was nice to see that Stampy considered the kids when he made Bye Bear. Edit: It's nice to see that there's some evidence Lee didn't do anything..
I remember watching stampy, good old days, brings back lots of nostalgia, especially lee, it kinda makes me sad rembering when i was a kid and watched this guy.
Stampy is like the Mr. Rogers of Minecraft youtube. I think he handled it the best he could for his young viewers and just Poochie'd Lee into the void.
I remember watching Lee, Jinbop, and Lionmaker's situations going down and not quite understanding how serious they were. Crazy to see how twisted things were behind the scenes. And I watched so many of Sky's videos with Bashur in them but I never knew of his allegations??? Rest in peace. Side note, the clips of Stampy's videos made me smile. It reminded me of the good times watching nothing but minecraft youtubers when I was younger :')
Apparent the og situation happened when he was 17 and the victim was 14 or 15, so he wasn't a full predator since both him and the victim were young teens. Its sad that something so long ago he did as a minor became the catalyst for a full on bullying campaign.
Yeah i thought he was rly fucking disrespectful when talking about how he passed away, talking about it as if it was no big deal, real dick move on Tom’s part there.
Such an interesting and sad video really, it's just sad how people who have everything would risk losing it all just for the sake of getting some type of sick pleasure from preying on mostly young and innocent people who are vulnerable. It sucks, really
I cannot adequately describe the primal sense of fear that I felt when I heard Stampy's name being mentioned in this video, and honestly I only slightly felt bad for being relieved that it was only L for Lee being outed. It makes so much sense how he suddenly stopped appearing on Stampy's channel, and how hard Stampy tried to distance himself from both Lee and the things Lee had done. I remember being a young kid seeing the video and being so sad that Lee wasn't going to be there anymore, but I never questioned exactly why. Now, though, I don't even really know how to feel...
Yeah, before going into this video I knew that Lee was a creep, but didn’t know what he did. And I never was into stampys videos because I felt too old for them in his prime, but I always respected his content. But when Tom mentioned Stampy, I was shocked for a moment
@Secretary i didnt even watch stampy for minecraft as i only watched popularmmos lucky block videos,but even hearing stampys name mentioned in this video made me shiver
I have issues with my bowel movements, I love your content I always watch it while I am in a hard place. Worse part is that I chuckle some times with the stuff on these video's and I lose my progress... still thanks.
I remember watching stampy videos because his voice was so, weirdly calming and fun like a dad trying to calm a small child with a fun voice, which i was. I miss watching them
i never knew about what Lee did. i always thought stampy and lee were such an iconic duo. like best of buddies, brothers in arms, partners in crime. not fully complete without the other. i am sitting here actually stunned. he was still somewhat young, i hope he got help for his behavior and grew as a better person
I never knew pagethepanda was groomed by lionmaker, she was my fav in the group at the time and I never knew why her channel dissapeared. pretty fucked up
2:16 Heard that voice for the first time in years. Words cannot express how much nostalgia washed over me in a second. However, it was a shame that the whole L for Leeeeeeex thing happened. A true tragedy.
I’ll admit I never got into Minecraft or it’s community, so I watched this video for curiosity. But damn that last guy got fucked over. He seemed so sincere when he talked about his original crime, but ClownStar and the internet basically made his life a living hell. RIP I hope he finds happiness and justice in the afterlife.
Am i the only one here who is absolutely furiouse that there is no reprecousion at all for this literal CRIMMINAL? Spreading the rourmour that a dude diddled a 12 year old and hassled him constantly in what can only be described as harrasment?
When you mentioned stampy at the beginning I was scared shitless he had done something but after hearing the whole story, I am kinda glad, he sheltered me from a topic I was simply too young to understand.
I just realized how L for Leeeee is like, the Gromit of Minecraft. He doesnt speak, makes expressions from punching the air or sneaking like the other helpers. While Stampy is the one who speaks, its almost like Wallace and gromit, one character focuses on talking and doing their own works with the other character doing gestures more than rather talking, as well as help out with what the 1st character is doing.
I was one of those kids who watched Stampy’s content. I remember being very confused when Lee was sent away, I only ever heard about the controversy when I was much older. I’m glad Stampy handled it the way he did.
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The way Stampy took care of Lee was fucking legendary dude, no drama, no bullshit, he just took care of business. Sent him off and carried on, what an absolute g
all while keeping the kids oblivious to something so horrible. my younger self had no idea about the situation. which seems to be a super hard task considering how other channels handled stuff like this.
It's admirable the way he handled it. Stampy proected his audience. gave Lee the dignity he probably didn't deserve, and also stayed out of the remote parenting realm. What Lee did is something better left for parents to explain to their kids, not an online content creator.
no one cares
@@dinogt8477 People are allowed to have opinions.
@@dinogt8477 I do, also db is mid
There's a reason the Creeper has been the most iconic mob from Minecraft
Pig
Oh no 😂
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stampy's a real g for dealing with lee's actions the way he did. i remember when i was younger seeing that farewell video and i didn't suspect a thing. if anything bad comes out about him i'll be genuinely heartbroken.
Honestly I couldn't think of a better way to deal with that when it comes to young audiences.
@𝗧𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗡𝗢𝗕𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗟 😂🔥 🤡
@@in_faustianwinter Don't feed the troll
@@in_faustianwinter its a bot unfortunately
Same, Stampy never will do anything horrible tho
I'm so glad stampy wasn't a terrible person, matter of fact hearing the way he sent lee away from his channel was heartbreaking. He really loved and cared for his audience and wanted to protect them.
True. I grew up watching stampy and I'm really glad he didn't turn out to be a creep like some others
It was refreshing to see how stampy handled it for his audience
I loved stampy. I watched him growing up. My first channel I watched on RUclips. The nostalgia...
Hands down best Minecraft RUclipsr in terms of being a good guy
Wait, that called protecting?
Even as someone who missed the whole minecraft youtuber boat, for being too old. The stampy send-off for Lee makes me sad. How stampty tried so hard to make something so terrible be so wholesome for his young audience.
I think Stampy is definitely a great creator he did a proper way so his fans didn't get exposed to learning about that type of inappropriate behavior.
Please everyone report that comment. You know the one. Or maybe that was the intent of the comment, for some reason
@@JK-gm6kk no lol
@𝗧𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗡𝗢𝗕𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗟 😂🔥 This is not related to Tecno's death dumbass bot
As a kidlet I had no idea at the time and was sad to see a reoccurring character go. Nowadays, I started exploring internet history and drama and found out the truth; which really just makes that whole memory awfully depressing for me :(
the moment he mentioned stampy, my heart dropped because i didn't want to hear about how he was some kind of horrible person, but i was so glad that this wasn't the case
Same, I was like 😱😱😱😱
I audibly yelled in denial. He was a legend, an engine in my childhood along with PopularMMOS, and overall I absolutely loved him. Thank GOD he wasn't revealed as the awful person here, God bless him.
Stampy was probably the most morally good person that has done Minecraft.
@@sadrat5375 What happened to popularMMOS was honestly so sad i will always treasure them for my childhood
@@lucklei4665 I miss their Challenge Game series the most
"Maybe the real creepers were the predators we met along the way."
-Notch, probably.
Nice.
Lmao
"Fuck minorities"
-Also Notch
True poet right here fellas
Yes except there is no " meet "
there is only violence.
Not gonna lie, I almost had a heart attack when Stampy was first on the list, then I realized Lee was a thing
Me too😭
SAME..
Fun Fact: Minecraft RUclipsrs love diamonds not because they are useful, but because they only exist below 16
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below 14 actually lmao
@@moldyaco Even worse lol
Lmfaoo
Genius
Why is keemstar a side character in every single character arc on the internet
he was the tmz of youtube
As much as I don’t like him I have to applaud his ability to take place every drama that has ever existed right when it happens
He’s everywhere, probably in your grandmas house too
That's a hilarious way to put it.
He's a part of YT drama history.
Love how the first episode with Lee in it is called the "Friendly Creeper." Foreshadowing at its finest.
Chillll 🤣
LOL
damn that’s a 10,000 iq play from God
Lee didnt do anything lmao its been debunked
hello magma nice to see you here
lionmakers "dear friend" rant seems like something out of meat canyon, I would love to see that animation
Imagine your child being groomed and the first thing you think is "we NEED to tell Keemstar"
Ah yes, Keemstar, God of exposing people
@@omegacatcj1712 more like keemshit
But had keemstar been told yet?!?
@@crosstie417 i think he did got tell about it
I feel like Keem is the kind of person to tell a pedophile joke about someone in a party and everyone just looks at him funny
Mad respect to stampy sending lee off and shielding his young audience from the disturbing reality I never knew this was why it happened
sure it might be actually true,but there isnt really any proof whether or not it actually happened same shit happened recently with the kwite situation where people immedietally took sides and most people took the side of the accuser,only difference is that there was a response fairly quickly with the recent situation,not so much with the lee situation
also the mirror used the source from another not so credible site
@@Damian-cilr2 There was literally DNA and online proof. XD
@@Damian-cilr2 there was proof tho?? What are you smoking?
@@BigWoodchuck give us a link then
@@Damian-cilr2 bro his nut was on the scene
The way that Stampy concealed the sexual abuse allegations by pretending to send Lee away in a video is so weirdly heartbreaking and sweet, almost like a parent shielding his kids.
I hope thats sarcasm. Hiding pedo's, aww thats sweet of him.
@@ibapreppie Lol how is that “hiding a pedo”? He’s literally doing the best thing possible in his position. He’s allowing the authorities to handle the situation while protecting his young audience by 1. Refusing to host a predator on his channel where he would have access to countless children and 2. Maintaining a child-friendly, safe, and lighthearted environment. Kids don’t need to know about stuff like that outside of basic knowledge they would use to keep themselves safe. He handled things better than, like, 90% of RUclipsrs probably would.
I respect stampy so much man. Genuinely one of the most wholesome RUclipsrs I’ve ever seen.
If he ever gets implicated in one of these scandals I'm gonna cry.
I find that so weird. How he talks to his audience really is like an online kids show
I worked with Bashur briefly at the height of his popularity (when he was still actively working on the hobo series). Building sets for the show, as well as stuff for the sort of mmorpg server he wanted to start based on that series. He was a fun guy to work for/with, but the thing I remember most is just that he would come up with all these ideas of what he wanted to do, but unfortunately he never had the will or dicipline to see it done. Which was mainly why I left. Sad to see he how he ended up only to pass when finally seeming to get better.
Take a shot every time Tom says "young and impressionable".
I took too many. I’m now drunk as fuck.
you'll die of alcohol poisoning
How long until someone comments the obligatory freak out comment about seeing a different youtuber in the replies?
Death% WR incoming
Gonna pass out very fast then.
I straight cried when Lee left. I had no clue about what happened just that Lee did something really bad. Massive respect to Stampy for keeping the children in mind.
Phrasing!
Sadly, he falsely accused as a 'love' offender
@@princejm448 The allegations are real
You cried for the victims
@@RandomVidsforthought I know but framed him up and then, he quits youtube after the great stress in his life
Not having seen any of Stampy's content, I have to say he's kind of a genius for pulling that off. No drama in his channel. Just business. A normal sendoff.
It reminds me of that blues clues episode where Steve gets sent off to college, only Steve wasnt a hormonal teenager that broke into his aunt’s house and nutted into her underwear.
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I didn't know Bashur died. I really enjoyed his content and have a bunch of videos saved on an external HD. There are so many random things my husband and I quote from his Bashcraft and Legend of Hobo series.
Same, man. I almost teared up when it said he died. I'm conflicted at feeling so bad, since his relationship was kind of sus. But Jesus. That dude suffered. I hope he's somewhere nice or at least resting easy.
Stampy is absolutely amazing. Even if it would be dark he knew he had the option to just explain what lee did but instead he tried to appeal to his audience and keep them pure while getting the message across that lee isn’t coming back nor would he be welcome back. I’m so so glad I was one of his fans years back, it’s only now that I realize how much good he did for us.
Stampy might be a cat, but he's an absolute GOAT
@@FittedSheet2000 agreed
he's still chugging along too, his talent for kids content creation is actually amazing
Loved his terraria videos tho
With the reputation that the minecraft community has online. It makes me happy that people like this do exist that actually seem to give af about the people they entertain.
Lionmaker's apology sounds like a politician during a speech
Jeez dude, that extreme
Bashurs video is literally only missing sad music to be the classic emotional manipulation.
His breakdown, his therapy... Maybe dude shouldve just admitted he made a mistake and sexted a child as an adult instesf of playing the technicality card
@@neighbor472 bashur moment
aka trump
The repeated "DEAR FRIEND" killed me
I didn't realize just how smart stampy was with his series and how he genuinely treated it like a kids show
Edit: thanks for the likes and replies lol
im so glad i grew up with mainly stampy videos, it felt so wholesome and i never tried to look into the Lee thing as i just thought it was like a normal show thing.
Totally agree. Back then when we used to "live under a rock" things were much simpler. Nowadays when I hop on RUclips the first things I see on my recommendation is some roblox RUclipsr who got exposed for being a creep.
He loved his young audience, not like these weirdos, but he stopped using profanity in his videos after he gained an audience and stopped doing average playthroughs and really treated his channel like a cartoon. I'm happy I grew up mainly watching him lol
Gosh I just realized this he is just the best RUclipsr
Stampy was an amazing Childhood RUclipsr. He just felt like an Older Brother Figure and it felt like he was actually talking to the Viewers as people.
No matter what, I'm glad Bashur appeared to have learnt from his past mistakes. I may have never watched a video from Bashur, but I always believe people can be redeemed. It's all too unfortunate he passed away. May he rest in peace.
Pffft pathetic
Man clearly had a lot going on and had an all too public breakdown, i honestly just felt bad for him getting dogpiled on back then. RIP Melon man AKA Toasty
“Pants” in England are underwear. So Lee’s harassment of his family friend is (somehow) even creepier than it might sound
What?
@@figshwg I think in UK they say pants instead of panties...
And I'm pretty sure they call actual pants 'trousers' correct?
@@TheLordOfAllCats Yes you are correct
@@TheLordOfAllCats yep
I never watched Stampy’s content before. I remember in the earlier days though, my younger brother would reference him all the time, since he was a kid then. Reasons because, I hate to say this. But back then, I generalized all Minecraft RUclipsrs to be 'annoying'.
But the way this man made that send off was so sweet and heartfelt for the kids, despite the darkness behind the situation. It made me think about how there are actual Content creators who make good family-friendly content to watch. Everything within standards and good morals. What's best for their audience.
Then there are 'Family Friendly' Videos, who hide behind an innocent façade while being completely sleazy. They don't care much, as long as they get the clicks.
I’m glad that people actually found out what truly happened years later. It's probably for the best, where they have already grown enough to be able to understand the context. That was a class act on his part. Makes me actually want to find out more about his content now.
He was a big part of my childhood
very wholesome & just a great guy Mr Rogers like
His show really was like another world
You missed out
His Minecraft series he did was just like a children's television show. Always a new adventure every time with good life lessons along the way
Stampys laugh straight up did the dimension flick scene from Dr. Strange on me lmao. Bro sent me back in time
imma be completely real, i have never heard lee’s voice before watching this video, and seeing the footage from his own channel gave me whiplash
on a more serious note however, Stampy’s method of letting his viewers know that Lee was leaving and not coming back was executed in such a spectacular way. i remember watching the video as a kid and thinking nothing of it until a few years later when i found out what really happened. i appreciate the way that whole situation was handled on Stampy’s side of things, because i can only imagine how hard it was to know that someone who was so close to his channel was such a terrible person behind the scenes, and later having to find a way to essentially boot him from the playthrough while keeping everything PG.
Lee was actually innocent and didn't really do anything mentioned, it's just that people still think that ;-;
@@dikorushballs8810 Yeah Lee was more than a little unhinged but people did in a way get most of the facts wrong or exaggerated them a bit.
I think something sounds a bit strange. When Lee is 16 and getting fame. It's an older schoolgirl 18 and aunt. When he is getting money people get jealous. Dail Record and mirror can write anything as seen in JD trial with the Sun that got popular for page 3 topless girls. Our news isn't like American news we have no obligation to tell the truth. A work mate of mine used to pick up a newspaper full of porn and conspiracy stories.
LforLee never turned out to be a pedophile, it was false allegations that flew around the internet along with "He went to prison for child m0lestation" when in reality, he had never been convicted of any crime like that and didn't go to prison for any amount of time (especially for such an act of indecency meaning YEARS of prison, not months with his second-to-last video on the channel being evidence of that) and he personally chose to leave Stampy because he knew sticking around would affect the channel and knew that he couldn't let people ruin Stampy's reputation like that.
@@dikorushballs8810 wdym lee was innocent? It's all over the news. Sure the news has been known to do weird or stupid stuff however he did it to a close friend to his family and same thing with an 18 year old in what way is that innocent? Thats harrassment, sure it isnt that bad but it does not mean he is innocent. You shouldn't assume that harrassment isnt so bad, it's not as bad as some of the other crimes but still, it's bad.
Friendly reminder that creeps and weirdos are in *every single community.* No place is truly free of degenerates, you just don't know they're there. Keep your head on a swivel, friends.
True but some places seem to be hotbeds lol 😂
@@whiteperson1742 You never truly who who's on the other side of the screen so is always a good idea to keep internet people at an arms length and never being too trusting. That's what we got told to do as kids back in the early '00s, who knows if nowadays kids gets told that
@@Homodemon I don't know think they do. Even when I was young among kids who were also from the 2000s on the net, they'd talk and get way too personal with each other. Nowadays it's even worse and it makes me worry for this generation...
Edit: worry for this generation out of concern, not some boomer way. Wanted to clarify.
@@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 Yeah I was thinking that too. I think the attitude of "I'm very smart I wouldn't let something like that happen to me" kinda of comes hand in hand with children's lack of worldliness, they just don't have enough foresight or experience to imagine scenarios in which their lives could be really at risk and that their actions can have enough power to make them hurt themselves or hurt others. Mixing that with the literal infinite space of creeps and weirdoes that is the internet and you got a ticking bomb.
Is more of a transgenerational thing, I'm sure that back then, the fact we were the only ones that knew how to use a computer already gave us a sense of knowing better, so now is the same with phones, the 100 different social media pages, memes, communities and the possibility of being online 24/7 that young people are more likely to be experts of than grown adults so is always this thing of "you don't know what you're talking about, I can handle this stuff, I'm not dumb."
But sometimes is not just about being dumb, is about letting your guard down, being vulnerable and trusting too much.
Yes, people on the other side of the screen are human like you. But you never know with certainty what kind of human they are, and that, not because you're in a social media full of kids it means they're really ALL kids in there...
Truer words have never been said. Keep your communities classy, if you let these people fester they will ruin everything, up to and including people's lives.
what Stampy did was very clever imo, he didn't say what happened bc he knew how young his audience was but still wrote him off which was a bold but morally correct move
Sucks that he didn’t even do anything
@@cajunking5987 are you defending sex abuser? lmao see ya in hell
@@cajunking5987 he didnt?
@@alejandroaviles6814 nope
CajunKing you mean stampy didn’t do anything to lee? I mean what do you want him to do? It was already taken care of by the cops
I actually feel bad for bashur, out of all of these RUclipsrs he had the most understandable crime, being in a relationship with someone 3 years younger than you is totally normal though it gets kinda weird at that specific age of puberty. The rest of the controversy is unproven and despite all that bashur was subject to mental destruction for years, the court system is extremely stressful for young people and once he got away from it it's like PTSD just bringing this situation back up then he was essentially bullied and mentally harassed into being a lolcow which is fucked up on its own. Thank whatever God exists that he had a therapist.
Bashur was in his 30s when he died which means half of this man's life was constant mental anguish and torture all because he dated someone he could have gone to school with
That’s the same age difference of me and my brother except he’s still just starting high school; that’s weird asf
@@elijahthompson4812weird af isn’t a legal term, also, it really isn’t
OK pedo apologist
it is weird. why would someone 3 years older be interested in someone 3 years younger as teenagers? Because the person 3 years older is either emotionally underdeveloped or has such serious problems that the more mature people their age have zero interest
@@atrustworthyfellow6887 The only underdeveloped one is you
I can’t tell you how many grooming stories I’ve heard come out of minecraft, even the smallest servers. I myself almost was by a 23 year-old when I was 13, but thankfully my mom caught on right away. You just can’t trust anyone
EDIT: Y’all in the replies saying W mom, you’re right, but unfortunately this was like the only time she ever got involved. Outside of this I was unrestricted and genuinely being evil online lmao
Aye good on your mom for being involved and paying attention. Online interactions must always be monitored by adults.
Respect for your mom. 👌
W mom
Good mom, I never had supervised internet access
One of my friends whom I played Minecraft with was targeted by someone that was 23 as well. We were both in middle school, and sort of knew what was going on, so we just cut off contact with him.
10:18 Can we take a moment to appreciate how stampy handles his goodbye?
Obviously his audience is filled with children so this is such a wholesome way of basically ending ties with him but in a child friendly way
so he should leave his audience thinking lee was innocent…yeah such a smart move
@@skeleton819 He didnt leave the audience thinking Lee was innocent, he left his audience thinking Lee was gone and not coming back. There was no concept of innocent or guilty to his audience because they lacked the ability to understand the subject matter. He recognizes that his audience is probably either incapable of discerning or very sensitive and he decided it was more important to keep the children that watch him from that part of the world and life. They will grow up and they will learn about it and other people like him, but in the mean time its important for the kids to be kids. Its very much the most professional and caring way to handle the situation.
@@skeleton819 He knew most of his audience was very young, so he shouldn’t be the one to explain stuff like that to kids.
@@marissam3176 he could at the most just say lee is a criminal and shouldnt be respected
@@skeleton819 No because then kids would try to look into it. The way he did it was smart. He wanted to be completely disconnected from Lee. Also Lee was never convicted of anything so he isn’t a criminal (from my knowledge, I don’t remember where I read this)
bashurs story is genuinely sad to me, the internet literally drove him insane
Yea like it was in the past and most of the stuff may not even be true and could just been pressure to making him go insane. At least for the most part he can rest easy now. I’m sure he needs a break from all that has happened
@@kasagrim7215 i really hope alot of those were allegations / not true. Poor guy ended when he was about to make it back. Even while he had Covid that when he gets better he'll put his heart and soul into it again. And then sadly passing...
RIP Bashurverse
@@Minious1020 we can only assume his past was dark. But he tried to learn from his faults and be a different man. Yet. The internet and everyone tends to change and not see his progression on trying to change. Sometimes I wonder if those pandemic or this new era is affect most content creators due to well. Because people grow. And age. It hurts. But someday I hope things can go well
@@kasagrim7215 they must have found it funny. I remember people making edits to his breakdown. back then most cases of "justice" were for the sake of publicity and holding people accountable wasn't actually the main focus. i feel like bashur may have done some things in the past. but when keemstar realised how much of a gold mine he was he decided to push further and cover stuff that may not have even been true. If there was a "degenerates of youtube" video, keemstar should be on that list. he has stated multiple times that he does not believe in mental illness and he has even made funn of SA victims countless times.
@@Minious1020 Wouldn't be the first time KeemFuck spread a large, no a copious amount of information.
so grateful stampy didnt have some sort of dark backstory i hadn't heard about. sometimes i go back to his channel and still watch his videos, thank god he wasn't the problem, though.
Ending off with Basher's story was honestly a good call.
We all know too well how things go for the victims of true predators, but understanding what happens to the victims of false accusations is important too. Way too often people jump at instantly believing the accuser, because it's a horrible thing to lie about, but the world is full of horrid people.
No. There is evidence against Bashur. I think his death is faked to save his name.
@@simenon5929 that’s a really brain dead take. The only evidence is what Tom discussed in the video that let to his original controversy. Everything after that allegation wise is not backed up at all. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s innocent till proven guilty. If there was more evidence out there I feel like Tom would have mentioned such in his video.
@@Zach-dc8ws Trust he deserves little of your sympathy. Tom did do a bad take on it because theres way more lore. I remember the drama while it was happening.
@@simenon5929 source: "it came to me in a dream"
@@johnson9705 Look it up then.
The fact that the bashur story ends in his death is still shocking to me to this day
I had no idea he died until this video
Very shocking, especially since he was trying to make a comeback content wise, rip
True, I remember him reacting to his own video of him having his mental breakdown, his drama with his GF, how his brand went from minecraft to vlogs where you could see his day to day life of smoking weed and eating candy. After seeing his channel banner blacked out and all his videos removed I assumed he moved on from youtube, learning he died is kind of surreal since I thought he was still alive.
I kind of feel bad for him cause what he was accused of seems way less extreme than the other people on this list. He was 18 dating a 15 year old right? Which is a little concerning, but its only a 3 year difference. The others were like 25 year olds dating 14 year olds, way worse in comparison. I felt bad seeing his mental breakdown, and he seemed like he was genuinely trying to improve before his unexpected death
@@killerbeanmachine which is funny cause now everyone in the commentary community doesn’t have a problem with it after the Cami/John Swan drama.
I have very high respect for Stampy, not only because he was a huge part of my childhood and that he influenced me enough to pursue film making but, also because of how intelligent and strong he actually is as when controversy arose, he never let that get to him on camera. He'd just continue to play video games and when one of his friends did something awful, he paid no attention to them and just stopped collaborating with them. Stampy is like the Mr. Rogers of Generation Z and I hope that his content remains to be viewed and loved by upcoming generations because he is an absolute genius when it comes to children's entertainment.
It is really funny, because everyone else who have done this has been accused of hiding it. For some reason, ya'll stampy incels see it clearly.
@@tmw3489t's literal content aimed at kids it would be very questionable if he made a video about it...
@@rainydaysinaugust4715 Yeah I like that. Other streamers make content for kids too but they get shit on. This is a good thing.
All i knew about him is that his very child friendly, the second i saw his name in the list i was like oh nooo is stampy bad or smth? But no seems like Stampy is just a sweetheart and im happy for this
@@ObviOneKenobilegit my heart dropped when I heard his name. I'd never heard of anything bad to do with Stampy and I used to watch him all the time as a kid, he was one of the people that introduced me to minecraft and always came across as just super nice and sweet.
Growing up with these RUclips channels it makes me sad and sick to my stomach to not only hear the whole lee situation again but also realize that I was so close to finding out some horrible, horrible things to hear about when I was so young
Honestly I really hated the amount of degeneratcy that was being generated in the Minecraft community. Because when I was Younger on RUclips I always find it weird and disgusting seeing Minecraft contact slowly change the deeper you go in. It was even worse when you had futuristichub making one of his weird videos relating to Minecraft. It was just the motivation I needed to walk away from all Minecraft videos.🐱
I feel the same. Within the last couple of years not only have I distanced myself from the community but also the game in it's entirety due to some events that impacted me on servers. It's weird how a children's game can become so degenerate and toxic, but I shouldnt be surprised
@𝗧𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗡𝗢𝗕𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗟 😂🔥 phoning it in hard, mate
@𝗧𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗡𝗢𝗕𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗟 😂🔥 bro this is how you know this kid got no love as a kid 💀
Quick, call this comment satire before futuristichub sues you
Man, I watched futuristichub when I was little and it was so bad.
The fact that SkyDoesMinecraft was even worse than Jin is the most devastatingly ironic thing I've seen in a while
I felt disgusted when I saw the shit Sky's been doing. I used to watch him all the time as a child.
Yeah. I remember loving his videos a lot as a elementary schooler when Minecraft was called cringe by the public. 20 years old now and it hurts just seeing how he turned out and how much a piece of shit Adam was. Guess its the phrase "Never meet your hero" working here
What happened?? What did he do?
@@neon_blue4464 He's a piece of shit abuser and compulsive liar who throws his friends under the bus.
@@HeirofDacia oof 💀
Funny how Lee stresses that he's never been to prison
Going to prison for stealing a car is a LOT less bad than being charged as a sex offender. Different level of violating somebody's rights.
No, it's a lot less bad than having sex with or molesting a minor. I have seen some b.s. reasons for being placed on the registry, and it's not so black and white. You are right though, when a minor is involved or when r*pe is involved it is always worse.
@@lolmanyeah1 regardless, Lee was involved in some deviant online behavior. This is just factual. He had problems. We all need to just admit that. People on here all trying to justify Lee and some even so delusional as to say he is innocent and was framed LOL..
@@JonHop1 yeah pedos can fuck off. If it was a "bullshit reason" for being registered, like a cop catching you peeing on the side of the road for "indecent exposure" or something while having a bad day, you would say that.
Can't imagine being too hard to say like "yeah I got registered as a sex offender because i couldn't hold it with no toilet around, I'm waiting fighting it now"
@@JonHop1 if at 16 you’re willing to taunt and play mind games w you’re own aunt to traumatize her there’s no telling what you’ll do in adulthood.
@@Riqo2Suave Dude was clearly sick in the head and needed help that is for sure.
When you said Stampy, my heart fell because I thought he had done something horrible. I loved him growing up. Once you said Lee, I was so upset. I remember seeing him so much in Stampy's videos, and I remember watching "Bye Bear". Lee is a horrible person, and should've gotten time for what he did. Absolutely messed up.
Boy, when you first brought up Stampy my heart dropped. I was glad to hear that he was innocent, and always wholesome.
same, when i heard his name, i sprinted to the comments to make sure stampy was NOT the one being accused of garbage like this. I was SO relieved.
same i panicked like crazy
turkey tom's youtube channel revolves around drama and talking about other youtubers, yet his ending sequence is "leave me alone". how ironic
@@LiquidSnakeSSJ4 who?
REAL I GOT SO SCARED CAUSE I LOVED STAMPY GROWING UP
"Unlawful transaction with a Minor" makes me think about like, 11yr olds doing Tax Fraud
I'm just imagining some kid in a tuxedo with five calculators in front of a screen, kind of funny to imagine.
@@pyro111100 Boss Baby 4: Tax Evasion
5 year old ruthless druglord
@@raizenr2387 Boss Baby 5: going to jail
@@bobboo101 White Collar Crime has no Minimum Age
I never really got into bashurs content but seeing his mental breakdown I can say that they're legit breakdowns and not attention seeking. I myself have minor mental instability in part, worsened by covid and I wish I did because his high energy vibes probably would've helped me recover to not even be in the spot I am in now. Rest in piece my man, whether what is said about you is true or not
I mean, yeah, they are, that doesn't really mean anything though, he can have been a pedophile(well, he was a pedophile, it's just a question of how far he took it) and also had a mental breakdown because of being called out on it, they aren't exclusive and they aren't remotely comparable levels of "wrong", if he doesn't want to have a breakdown for getting called out on being a pedophile, don't date a 14 year old when you're 18, it's crazy how easy it is
I used to watch sky and all of the crew. Bashurs meltdowns where insane when they went live. You should watch the "atleast in the end I got to fuck her in the ass" clip
Yeah, it saddens me that even after Bashur's death, people continue to talk about his controversy, and try to pile on more allegations, or ask questions about what was true and what wasn't. Truth is, everyone has done some fucked up shit, and some people, such as Bashur did not deserve to have his own past shoved into the spotlight all of a sudden. Sure, theres alot of people who do deserve it, like full on molestors and pedos, but people fr decided to jump on him for a relationship he had when he was 18? He wouldn't have had his life together by then, sure, you can give him a slap on the hand but its hard to deny that he would've been fully aware of what he was doing at that time. I cant comment on the rumours about the 10 year old but as far as I know, if its not confirmed, it doesn't need to be talked about, or overly spread. I really hope he found some form of peace before he died.
@@chaoticcow4357 bro dated someone who was underage when he was old enough to know that's wrong, people deserve to know he is someone who's at risk of endangering children, he doesn't like that? Damn that sucks, guess he shouldn't have dated someone underage.
"everyone has done fucked up shit", normally I'd go "but not like this" but, you know? No. Not everyone has done "fucked up shit", in fact I'd say most people have not. This wouldn't be a valid excuse even if it was true, and it's not even true
@@jamesbailey6257 i have no idea where you got the excusing part from, I am in no way saying him dating a 15 year old was ok or able to be excused, but it shouldnt have been made as much of a controversy as it was then. All i'm saying is he was 18, fully fresh out of highschool and hadn't gotten anything together, and suddenly when he did get his stuff together when he was older, people started digging into his background. Which was fine, but it gets ridiculous when it goes beyond that, and several videos are posted to bash on this guy. Doing that is equivalent to saying kys to someone on repeat, its wrong, and doesn't make you a better person. Theres a difference between informing and provoking.
Oh wow. I was a HUGE fan of Bashurverse back in middle school, I even managed to get in a round of Minecraft hunger games with him that he recorded and posted to RUclips. I knew of the past allegations later on, but I had no idea he passed during COVID. I had really cherished that match I managed to play with him, I was going though a rough time back then. Learning the extent of all this feels really weird now.
bashur is probably the only one in the video who can claim "innocence." he clearly was pushed off the edge by Keem, and only went downhill for him to completely breakdown in front of millions. he didn't deserve that treatment for something he already paid for. rest in peace to a staple.
He’s also done this to yamimash.
keem pushing people and not taking any accountability for his actions only to deflect and push the blame? what a surprise!
Personal I find the most fucked up part of that is that his girlfriend left him and ended up doing solo porn
never forget what he had done to etika's mental health
Who's that in your pfp?
Bashur’s story is sad, man needed help but all he got was ridicule, the last moments of his life were probably miserable and I kinda feel sorry for him
I dont he was a pedophile ans im glad he suffered before he died
i was literally scrolling to find someone talking about this.. idk if it's because im high asf rn, but i found his story so sad.
yeah. i'm not saying it's right to be 18 and talk into a 15 year old, but it's definitely not pedophilia. People of stretch the term pedophilia is so bad and I hate it. Just minimize real victims 
@🐈¿-{•0Brøkęñ.Łüx0•}-?🐈 this way of thinking is frankly very damaging, and should be looked into. Children are not sexual for an adults own pleasure.
Death was not the punishment called for. He deserved another chance.
context for lee bear:
pants is the british word for underwear. He didnt do lewd acts with a pair of jeans, he did them with under garments.
*very big brain*
@@groundpoundevery useless comment
@@e7193 very useless reply
@@jellibean7729 god damn you lack self-awareness its almost impressive
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This really shattered what little joy of childhood I had left hiding in the dark corners of my memories. Learning the horrors committed by people I forgot that I loved watching. Sad…
Out of all of them, I think Lionmaker was the biggest creep of them all. I commend Colossal for calling him out and shredding his arguments during the interview.
yep him and Jinbop
@the cat I agree that jinbop is a creep but I feel like he has less of a chance to be a repeat offender if you catch my drift. Lionmaker repeated several times over and just seems like a pedo thru and thru
Man, Fuck, I'm 20. I used to watch a ton of these guys when I was 9-12.. Where did it all go? I pay taxes, I have a 56 hour work week, I live on my own, I drink alcohol (Canada things)
And there goes the rose tinted glasses, everyone of these people did terrible shit. Sjin, Lee, Sky, Tobuscus, Miniladd... All of these people had an influence on my life.
Tobuscus?
Sjin was a fucking she'll shock for me. Dude literally was me and my cousin's favorite. Honestly the only reason I'm still subbed is to see how long it'll take till his channel cracks. The only issue is the legitimacy of his crimes, which has some murky parts to it. None the less he still harassed Zoey and other female members.
Tobuscus just has weird political opinions he didn’t do anything wrong though
LforLee never turned out to be a pedophile, it was false allegations that flew around the internet along with "He went to prison for child m0lestation" when in reality, he had never been convicted of any crime like that and didn't go to prison for any amount of time (especially for such an act of indecency meaning YEARS of prison, not months with his second-to-last video on the channel being evidence of that) and he personally chose to leave Stampy because he knew sticking around would affect the channel and knew that he couldn't let people ruin Stampy's reputation like that.
Weird
I really hope Lee got his life fully back on track, that guy had some serious issues, especially considering his young age
same
If this video is any indication, he seems to be doing fine now. Definitely the only good ending here.
Ye
I feel like the majority of everyone is missing the fact that he was 16, literally still a kid and the youngest one in his story, everyone he talked to and acted inappropriately towards being a legal adult while he was not, I wouldn't really consider him a predator by any means, just a kid making very terrible choices.
@@majik2006 it makes him a pevert he traumitised that poor lady who probably saw him as her son.
The whole thing that happened with Bashur and Sky was probably the worst thing Ive watched go down on the internet. Wrecked my childhood for sure man.
And when the news came out about Bashurs passing I felt so guilty for being sad.
What he did was wrong but he was such a huge part of my childhood.
He dated someone Who was 3 years younger than him that was his crime lmao its fine to feel sad about him it wasnt Just being exposed his past another thing was that other youtubers was bullying him like keemstar he commited a mistake and that cost him everything the bullying made his mental illnesss be worse and his last years were torture because of all the backlash there was, this man was sorry about his actions basically he died while still haunted by his mistake
@@Gonzaly99His crime was trying to use social media as a career.
Idk why people don’t realize they can’t handle it and remove themselves from it before it’s to late.
It’s a shame to see.
@Gonzaly99 he did nothing wrong sorry not sorry you don't magically become a different person at 18 you still have a mind of a 17 yo in reality
Damn, I did not know Bashur had passed away, that was quite a surprise at the end for sure... RIP Bashur/Toasty.
I just found out from this video too… I had no clue
Yeah same..
Same. Fuck.
I had absolutely no clue either, I hope the man rests in peace
RIP? Pshh, he was a pedophile he doesnt deserve to rest in peace
That dude who kicked rainbowed out was a real one, let homie live with him when under the impression he was a good person but didn't try to defend a predator, dude gets my respect
I briefly met Bashur at a convention in early 2016 and he seemed just absolutely miserable in a way I don’t think I’ll ever forget. I wouldn’t say he was a good person or anything like that, after everything that did come out over the years. But he definitely needed help rather than the constant ridicule and spotlight.
Yeah, his story is just fucked up as shit
That's because bashur didn't do shit and Keemstar was using everything for clicks and emotionally manipulating him. Look into the whole story it's so fucked up, he had no one. His girlfriend was even using him. Yet he was still painted out as the bad guy, there was literally never any proof of anything. He was just a miserable man being kicked over and over again. It's really sad, and Keemstar still has a platform.
@@nowwepart I agree 100% keemstar destroyed that man
@@nowwepart It's honestly really fucking sad, I hate it when people accuse others of life changing shit and not having any proof or evidence of it; but that's the internet for you unfortunately.
@@nowwepart keemstar really needs to shut the fxuck up. He does nothing but just make accusations and dmick ride these people smh
It really pulls on my heart from hearing bashur yell like how he did. I could never put into words how fucking crippled he felt in that moment. From what i gathered, he admitted to a mistake, and people began to beat him to a pulp.
I hope wherever he is, he's doing better now.
It really did hurt...
Rest in peace Brandon
I agree. Rest in peace Brandon, you were a huge light in my childhood and I'll always be thankful for that
What Bashur did was clearly wrong, but man, Keem sure has a talent for pushing people over the edge of sanity by taking their problematic actions and creating content about it/fabricating shit related to it until they have a mental break.
He was 17 when their relationship started and she 15 and besides talking they didn't even do anything, man f*ck that noise.
I Had people with higher age gap in my Class.
i Am 27 and my Gf is 24 people gonna shoot me now?
@@FallenDemonFly Americans have a weird legal and moral obsession with people turning 18.
@@Azqalihm as an american, its the most arbitrary fkin thing in the universe, the real age of being an actual adult with the mentality of it is more like 21-25
Dude got mega fucked over. He was a scumbag with his live action stuff with his gf, and did not handle anything well, especially memeing his own mental breakdowns, but all of the shit he dealt with was unjustified with the info we have. I'd say I feel bad, but he makes it really hard to have sympathy for him.
@@murakii I was 18 before I graduated lmao, people looked at me weird because my gf was 17 when we graduated, we were in the same grade, just a few months apart, shit is wild.
*Just want to say Turkey Tom, I've been binging your high-quality videos for about a month now and you're easily one of the best commentary channels I've come across.* In a community that is generally toxic, lazy and unethical, your well-paced and well-meaning content truly stands out!
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It is insane how far you've come and how much further you've yet to go. In it for the long haul, keep up the stellar content Tom!
thanks neillan i appreciate the praise man, looking forward to making more videos
@@TurkeyTom new tom dark when
@@TurkeyTom hey Tom, can I suggest a video idea?
@@TurkeyTom is there anything you can do about the bot in your comments? I keep reporting it but its in every single reply and everything about them from the username to what they're saying is gross
@@lexylunamoon blame youtube, unfortunately =/ they're the ones too lazy or too incompetent to fix the problem.
This is sad, I’m sad Stampy’s stuff had to get involved with degeneracy
Cope
There's no escaping it when you're dealing with adults who play minecraft.
It's like being surprised that preds like to linger around playgrounds.
The good thing is, though, that Stampy himself has been good about handling it as best as he can given the main demographic of his audience. I remember watching his world videos in middle-ish school, and distinctly remember watching the episode where Lee left. Was none the wiser until after when I learned about what had happened. Still subscribed to Stampy. Lol
@@slsthewriter1299 he handled it so well
Yea he is trying to run the most stale family friendly corporation on youtube but he keeps having to deal with his workers doing bad things.
Lionmaker was my guy back in the day. Watched his videos religiously. Every single day. When all of a sudden he disappeared, I didn’t know why. My young self never bothered to look into it and I sort of just cut my losses and walked away. Now knowing what I do I’m heartbroken. Lionmaker, who used to be one of my favorite Minecraft RUclipsrs ended up doing unspeakable things. Never fun to learn about all these years later.
Bashur/Toast was someone I dearly loved watching. Was just getting back into watching his new channel and then he got sick and he didn’t recover. His last few twitter posts hurt. Still has an open discord community! His girlfriend and some mods keep it active and his gf has an art Instagram picturing the hard moments she’s had to face with Brandon’s passing.
His story is one of the hardest and lengthiest to explain, and so many rumors and fake stories about him were spread and never even proven true. He did explain himself and the situation, but it was scary seeing these people and his own mental health chew away at him and a lot of people thought he was gonna off himself. He was strong and just as his world was stable, covid came and took him away. He doesn’t need to fight anymore, I hope he’s resting peacefully. I pray for his family and girlfriend, that pain can never fully go away.
he’s a fucking monster and i don’t know how or why you’d say anything good about him
@@mz4db how he can be a monster? He date 3 yrs younger girl. At some ppint of that relationship he was 17 an she was 15 ,it was okay then but whe he turned 18 it was nkt anymore. You americans are delusional.
@@oggsports he groomed her using the power that he had, obviously that’s wrong lmao
imagine being american
@@mz4db what do you mean he used power? He was not even famous when he was with her.
Yeah that one was sad, 15 and 17 (or even 18) isn't really that big of a deal, especially if it wasn't sexual. Even legal in many states. Twisting that into him being a rapist at a totally different age was extremely cruel, especially after that public breakdown.
Claiming that the breakdown made him into a lolcow was similarly cruel. Lolcows aren't otherwise normal people being bullied into having a mental breakdown, they're already insane people who would be doing dumb/funny stuff even without being bullied into it.
I didnt even know Basher died from covid. That's mildly upsetting.
He may not of been the best person, but it's still upsetting to see, and now knowing of his passing
Can you time stamp it
@@Bru21424 40:10
@@RebelHound thanks
he was a pedophile and he was terrible for gobbling kids, all pedophiles deserve death by a baseball bat to the head till their body stops moving
Weak eliminated.
Minecraft degenerates come in many shapes and types, from the unhinged groomers, to the elsagate type content some people do, to even the r34/fetish artists on art sites like divientart, it is a whole can of evil and odd worms to go through.
@𝗧𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗡𝗢𝗕𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗟 😂🔥 agreed, that dude was a filthy troon
Ah shit here we go again with the bots.
Yeah ever since it’s resurange in 2019 mine craft has become very toxic from both mojang and the community
@𝗧𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗡𝗢𝗕𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗘𝗟𝗟 😂🔥 morbius dorbius
Morbius, Dorpheus, Orpheus
Go eat some walruses
Orifices, Porridges
Morbius, Morpheus
Going to the Buffet and Walruses
Confidence, Corpseses
Worcestershire sauce
Go into your orifices
Red pill, blue pill
Morbius, Walruses
Seashells by the Seashorpheus
Morbius drinking a forty in a death basket!
@Higgs Bonbon one word; children
There's something gut-wrenching yet so heart-warming about Stampy coming up with a wholesome way to send off Lee in a way to protect the kids from knowing about the horrible things he did, I was so scared it would be a controversy about Stampy for a moment but it yet again he managed to be a sweetheart no matter what
It's honestly amazing the wave of nostalgia that hits me when I see stampy's Minecraft world, watched him when I was probably a bit older than the target audience but damn it was still enjoyable, only past Minecraft you tuber who has stayed pure in my mind
Etho would be another one to add to that...
but yeah, they're pretty damn rare
Bashur was a sad one. He was about to have his redemption arc, then he fucking died. F for my man.
pedophiles and rapists can’t be redeemed, he’s a fucking monster
@@mz4db >He believes Bashur was a nonce
The Lionmaker interview with Colossal really showed how sick he was, even more so than his actions at the time. When Colossal asked him what his moral stance was on his age gap with PaigeThePanda, he couldn’t answer. Actual freak.
I mean, honestly what did you expect him to say? If he said it was bad they call him a hypocrite if he said it was good it wouldn’t have put him in further trouble. It’s a lose lose situation he got himself in
He spent most of it just trying to confuse Colossal, refusing to answer questions like a normal person. It’s a little painful to watch.
Lionmaker's response video reads like cringy slam poetry that youd find on tumblr
I was a victim of sexual abuse on the internet when i was 14 and the abuser was around years old 21. It drove me to insanity, i ended up being diagnosed with GAD and depression, needing to take a lot of medication and therapy. To this day i still get anxiety attacks about all of it.
Thank you for talking about this. It is important to spread awareness to the people and especially the poor kids.
EDIT: a lot of you dont understand people that have been abused on the internet, and are undermining what they have gone through. I suggest YOU go look it up and do some research. The internet is so strong that it can drive us to literally kill ourselves. Its not as easy as ”lol just turn the internet off”. These people were our friends, our buddies. These people were in their 20s chatting up little kids. You cant sit here and blame little kids when there is an ADULT in the situation. Who has the most mature brain? An adult or a kid? Get a grip. And when it happens to somebody close to you, dont tell me i didnt say so.
I suggest doubters to look up the term ”grooming” and get educated before you assume shit about victims.
I hope you've been feeling better since then :(
I wish the best for you. That's a horrible thing for ANYONE to go through.
Fight On!
that's sad
"victim of sexual abuse on the internet" Yeah just like "harassment on the interent" bro just log off, hit the mute button, lmao
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg I mean, unless they have something on you, you really aren't necessarily wrong.
I remember when this channel was smaller with less than 100K subs. Now it has over 300K. Tom, you make amazing videos, and you are one of the best commentary channels out there.
thanks bro i appreciate it
Ignore the troll. All they want is engagement. Ignore them
@@TurkeyTom PISS💘
@@Laiser Probably has an furry deviant art account.
@@littlebeasty5839 seems oddly specific
Damn, ole' Stampy just can't catch a break in the friends department.
Why what else happened
And sky
@@originaljoke-y5f Who?
30:46 literal children defending him in chat. scarier than any horror movie
"You guys must not knoe ehat depression looks like" is the scariest thing in that chat
That is saying be a pdf file is just depression
When I was younger I didn’t know what happened to Lee, but I thought he was retiring/quitting. I did find out a couple years later. Also it’s scary how many fucking unhinged people there are on these platform praying on the most vulnerable people, that being kids. If you see this comment, this is your reminder to stay safe on the internet.
I don't understand:
Lee was falsely accused as a pedo?
Did Lee like kids?!?
@@Fredfazbear1983 no he didn't
@@mixedmikey good
Love for Stampy. I love how he covers it off with another person taking his spot for L for Lee and say that he's leaving in a quite family friendly way. When I heard this back then, this made me hit hard without knowing what Lee has been doing before.
Seeing the scene of Lee's sendoff hits a whole lot harder now and makes me realize a lot of things. You can clearly see that from Lee's letter, Stampy didn't want to traumatize his young audience with Lee's crimes, so the writers hid it behind an unsuspecting goodbye letter and a cheerful atmosphere instead. For me it worked, I was 7-9 when I became a huge Stampy fan. I, now a 13-year-old, went until a few minutes ago not understanding why Lee left the series. Though this was a heartbreaking reveal to me, it was nice to see that Stampy considered the kids when he made Bye Bear.
Edit: It's nice to see that there's some evidence Lee didn't do anything..
man I’m four years older and was a fan from 7-9, the same as you. that’s wild.
@@sni3510 Damnnn bro
He was convicted! He did it...stop defending perverts
@@biscuitcase83 you got any proof of that?
@@Flora_Dawn watch the video
I remember watching stampy, good old days, brings back lots of nostalgia, especially lee, it kinda makes me sad rembering when i was a kid and watched this guy.
When he started talking about Stampy, I was terrified he was gonna ruin my childhood. Thank fucking Christ it was just his associate.
As someone who used to watch sky does minecraft I wish I could be so lucky
Your childhood was very ruined indeed.
@@belstar1128 bro wtf is your comment history
@@bananafone1414 I just hate minecraft.
@@belstar1128 is something wrong with you
It really was a L for lee.
yeah… •_•
he fell off
LMAO
Stampy is like the Mr. Rogers of Minecraft youtube. I think he handled it the best he could for his young viewers and just Poochie'd Lee into the void.
Lee Bear just went to the barn alongside the -degenerates excluding Bashurverse- mentally ill people
I had Stampy instead of Mr. Roger, and ur statement is pretty spot on.
Dude when I heard you say stampy I almost had a panic attack, if he did anything bad my life would be over
same and honestly i wasnt expecting lee bear to be a pdf file
This has solidifyed the fact the Stampy is probably the most wholesome and kid safe RUclipsr
I remember watching Lee, Jinbop, and Lionmaker's situations going down and not quite understanding how serious they were. Crazy to see how twisted things were behind the scenes. And I watched so many of Sky's videos with Bashur in them but I never knew of his allegations??? Rest in peace.
Side note, the clips of Stampy's videos made me smile. It reminded me of the good times watching nothing but minecraft youtubers when I was younger :')
Wow you were horrifically blunt about Basher dying. That actually hurts a little as he seemed to be one of the more redeemable ones.
Apparent the og situation happened when he was 17 and the victim was 14 or 15, so he wasn't a full predator since both him and the victim were young teens.
Its sad that something so long ago he did as a minor became the catalyst for a full on bullying campaign.
@@resentfuldragon The fact it went to the Gnomeish Asshat Reporter first is enough evidence to make me doubt the allegations
@@romanboi3115
I heard of keem before but never knew he was such sub human, toic waste lvl of garbage
Yeah i thought he was rly fucking disrespectful when talking about how he passed away, talking about it as if it was no big deal, real dick move on Tom’s part there.
Mad respect for the way stampy handled the Lee situation
Stampy was a huge part of my childhood and I literally had no idea why Lee left until today. Jesus dude
Such an interesting and sad video really, it's just sad how people who have everything would risk losing it all just for the sake of getting some type of sick pleasure from preying on mostly young and innocent people who are vulnerable. It sucks, really
Unfortunately, everywhere where's light there will be shadows as well.
@@retrogamernr.8569 I get what you mean
@Kekker Fr man, it's gross
I cannot adequately describe the primal sense of fear that I felt when I heard Stampy's name being mentioned in this video, and honestly I only slightly felt bad for being relieved that it was only L for Lee being outed. It makes so much sense how he suddenly stopped appearing on Stampy's channel, and how hard Stampy tried to distance himself from both Lee and the things Lee had done. I remember being a young kid seeing the video and being so sad that Lee wasn't going to be there anymore, but I never questioned exactly why. Now, though, I don't even really know how to feel...
Yeah, before going into this video I knew that Lee was a creep, but didn’t know what he did. And I never was into stampys videos because I felt too old for them in his prime, but I always respected his content. But when Tom mentioned Stampy, I was shocked for a moment
i didnt even watch stampy and i can't agree enough with the heart drop i got hearing his name.
@Secretary i didnt even watch stampy for minecraft as i only watched popularmmos lucky block videos,but even hearing stampys name mentioned in this video made me shiver
Homie really put the L in L for Lee
Dude I got so frightened. Stampy was such a large part of my childhood that I legitimately got scared
I have issues with my bowel movements, I love your content I always watch it while I am in a hard place. Worse part is that I chuckle some times with the stuff on these video's and I lose my progress... still thanks.
LMAO
best comment so far lol
Wtf? 😂 Ayo you should see a doctor for that
most people do and don't realize it
@FemboiMawaKai truly does
I remember watching stampy videos because his voice was so, weirdly calming and fun like a dad trying to calm a small child with a fun voice, which i was. I miss watching them
Didn't know Bashurverse was dead, so when Tom says it with such deadpan delivery I almost spat my drink as I thought it was a joke
I remember back in 2016-2018 it was just a matter of time to find out who was going to be caught and labeled as a predator
Trueee. I remember 2012 and NOBODY thought Lego ripoff would be anywhere near what it is today in popularity nor degeneracy.
@@issholland you mean Roblox?
@@Dullsonic3 roblox has fallen so far from grace since 2012
i never knew about what Lee did. i always thought stampy and lee were such an iconic duo. like best of buddies, brothers in arms, partners in crime. not fully complete without the other. i am sitting here actually stunned. he was still somewhat young, i hope he got help for his behavior and grew as a better person
I mean there isn't any proof at all of what he did
@ItsOracle but, it does seem like to me that Lee is admitting to it
@@itsoracle plus it all comes from a single article
I never knew pagethepanda was groomed by lionmaker, she was my fav in the group at the time and I never knew why her channel dissapeared. pretty fucked up
2:16
Heard that voice for the first time in years. Words cannot express how much nostalgia washed over me in a second. However, it was a shame that the whole L for Leeeeeeex thing happened. A true tragedy.
I’ll admit I never got into Minecraft or it’s community, so I watched this video for curiosity.
But damn that last guy got fucked over. He seemed so sincere when he talked about his original crime, but ClownStar and the internet basically made his life a living hell.
RIP I hope he finds happiness and justice in the afterlife.
I really had this feeling too.
My eyes watered and everything, I hope he finds peace wherever he is.
Bashurverse didn't even do anything sexual. But his life was ruined and he just could not handle it. It's honestly so sad and his death was too.
Am i the only one here who is absolutely furiouse that there is no reprecousion at all for this literal CRIMMINAL?
Spreading the rourmour that a dude diddled a 12 year old and hassled him constantly in what can only be described as harrasment?
When you mentioned stampy at the beginning I was scared shitless he had done something but after hearing the whole story, I am kinda glad, he sheltered me from a topic I was simply too young to understand.
I just realized how L for Leeeee is like, the Gromit of Minecraft. He doesnt speak, makes expressions from punching the air or sneaking like the other helpers. While Stampy is the one who speaks, its almost like Wallace and gromit, one character focuses on talking and doing their own works with the other character doing gestures more than rather talking, as well as help out with what the 1st character is doing.
I was one of those kids who watched Stampy’s content. I remember being very confused when Lee was sent away, I only ever heard about the controversy when I was much older. I’m glad Stampy handled it the way he did.