I'VE PLAYED ALL VERSIONS OF THE PIG
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Currently the Pig is the weakest killer in Dead by Daylight. And BHVR seem to be absolutely fine with this. Moreover according to the patch notes most of the changes the Pig has gone through for past 5 years were nerfs. So in this video we're gonna play every available version of the old Pig and see for ourselves if this is true.
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my meme folder big
How big?
Meme folder pig
Meme?
Clown one next?
Yeah? How big are other things?
It's kind of crazy that Pig's ambush was made into a special attack literal years before Nurse's blink attack was made into a special attack tbh.
one needs it, one didnt.
I believe it was because Nurse is a special case. Unlike other killers with powers, she almost never uses M1. Every other killer regardless of power, even huntress, can make any use of perks like noed etc. Nurse hits you with her blink attack 99,9% of time. So making it a special attack takes away a lot of perks from her while keeping it a basic attack makes her too powerful.
I think they should make Nurse more like other killers. Make her 110% or 115% and force her to loop like other killers sometimes and nerf her blinks to compensate for that.
@@Lyserg1260 bro. i drank ao much milk when i woke up and now im tired again.
@@Random_Commentor_On_That_VideoSame but I have lactose intolerance 😔
@@Sboooose dRiNk iT aNY wAY aHHaHaAh
I love how he said "getting demo back is a more likely scenario than pig getting buffed"... Low and fucking behold
Do you think I might be psychic?
Well, that one didn't age quite so well
@@izenheimreborn6390 What you mean? Demo literaly came back before she got buffed.
@@DM-Oz that's the joke
Aged like wine.
Crazy how the demogorgan did come back before the pig got buffed
It aged so well
Was a pig main when she first came out. My favourite fun build used to be the 'end game boss' build where I wouldn't put any traps on anyone until all gens were done and then the real game began. I am sad it is gone though I understand why.
Well I dont. Pig has a hard enough time downing a decent survivor as is. It shouldn't be considered controversial for her to be rewarded for doing so.
The pig does need buffs for sure but it should be addressed to her horrible crouch and ambush and not something that can doesn't have as much counter play.
@@imtoolazytomakeaname3788 Wdym no counterplay, I've been playing pig for 3 weeks and only 1 person EVER died to a reverse trap and that was because they AFKed for part of the match
@@viennasavage9110 I was referring to traps working in the end game.
am new, and interested, what is that no longer work now?
You also forgot to mention that there was another unintended nerf for Pig, which was that back in the day skill check perks(like Hex: Lullaby) used to affect the skill checks from the Jigsaw Boxes. So yeah, we Pig mains have suffered a lot.
Recently (half a year ago) it seems it’s back as a BUG, not sure if fixed yet.
Hex lullaby doesn't affect jigsaw boxes?
@@EI_Greko All the way back before, it could. But then, it’s patched. And then a while ago, it somehow works again (might be a BUG).
NO WONDER the pig's power felt so empty at endgames!
It's more of a parting gift at that point... though Freddie has it much worse.
Yup, at end game it's just a knowledge check to see if people know lol I still occasionally get the odd survivor scrambling to boxs as me and their teammates without hats watch them run to the other side of the map trying to remove it.
@@TheReZisTLust Or other way, new guys who see pig so rare, that they don’t know about gate mechanic, and try to escape with the active trap. I have some of them sometimes
I wish the saw chapter came out after the twins so we could of seen coup de grace ambush.
omg this is a recepie straight from a mad scientist. good one good one
20:05 my man's prediction was absolutely on point.
Each trap simply used to have a designed key for each box;
In other words, at spawn, all the keys are already inside the boxes just waiting for to get retrieved.
This has been explained in a live Q&A. (Don’t remember which one since it was one of the multiple random questions they answer after a showcase/news)
The 4-16 searches also def used to be a thing. I just can't figure out how these 2 concepts work together
@@SireK0zy I don't think 4-16 searches was ever a thing. Might have been a rumor. If you don't know about the pre designated keys, it would be difficult to figure out that this was how the mechanic worked unless you had a very very coordinated SWF who were calling out specific boxes that they got unlocked at and happened to notice it was never the same box.
its says in in the patch notes@@DBZHGWgamer
@@SireK0zy
That's just an abstraction of how it used to work - if all 4 survivors happened to get lucky and search their designated box first, it'd be 1 search each for a total of 4.
If they all went to the 3 other boxes first and only found the correct one last, that'd be 4 searches each for a total of 16.
So the 4 - 16 thing isn't a predetermined mechanic, but just the range of possible searches resulting from interaction with unpredictable RNG mechanics
I like Pig for a bunch of reasons but I've got to agree about the addons. At this point, I literally only use the Combat Straps (Crouch speed) and John's Medical File (Movement speed whilst crouched), all the others don't synergise well enough for me to bother with.
Shes good with the Annotated Plan ( I think its called) and one of the search increasers. She gets 5 hats, 1 for your first down and then another per gen. If you wanna be dirty run the add on that takes 10 off for every gen done. Run 2 scream perks, one being Aliens locker along with Sloppy and the perk that applies oblivious to injured survivors after applying a health state and patrol boxs then slug them for touching it & you'll get consistant pops.
@TheReZisTLust could you explain this a little bit more. How does the slugging help and is there a specific way to slug?
Now that demigorgen is back, maybe we can expect some buffs for the pig
no. we need more skins. there is no time for pig.
@@SireK0zy Your giving the pig to much attention she might need another nerf. Crouching is to op we should remove it
@@yotsugiononoki5343 after 7 mounts i can confirmed: yes. she needs to be nerfed.
Kinda forgot (If I remember right) you could drop survivors in the exit & kill them.
Oh & of course could ignore the traps with old dead hard.
Dbd back in the days was nuts
yeah i (sort of) showed this scenario
Yup, you had a tiny section where it's either you pass the cut off line where you drop then and they can leave with helmet or if you were skilled can dance with them till they popped their own head upon landing. It was funny but mean. Havent ever seen someone dodge death by trap by using dead hard though I wish I did, sounds amazingly skilled.
I think giving Pig the ability to break pallets in the ambush mode and basekit sloppy butcher on special attack would be an interesting change. Also increasing her movement speed while crouching and give her the smaller terror radius back would be nice. Make boxes search not reset progress while screaming so people will actually try to chase rather than abusing ultimate weapon and maybe give her more bear traps and rework the addons that increase searching time to something else, so she is rewarded with more slowdown for catching survivors, because it feels awful to already use all beartraps and then have no slowdown left while any other killers have either infinite slowdown (Sadako, Pinhead, Singularity) or the survivors are punished and run out of options (Nemi, Wesker).
to be fair the 6 seconds makes it sound like shes leaving. now she has to crouch walk from a far distance cause if you hear the music just stop you know shes near.
The fact that the Demogorgon returned and Pig is untouched is gold
the fact that Demogorgon actually came back......
I did not know that launch pig had the end game kill using inactive traps
I know these videos focus on killers but I would love to see an episode on just maps :O
I'm thinking about. There's about 4 uneser maps in the beta version. Might make a video on them
Having demo back is more likely, you weren't wrong my guy
I like how this is purely informative. No dramatic fluff just some guys researching and cataloging progress. If you have other killers and stats you want to deepdive like this would be interesting.
I've done like 15 similar videos so fast already. And the next one is coming soon. There's sometimes personal and emotional rants in my videos but I try to limit them so that it's not another one of those videos where people just vent at things that they hate in the game
lol, i was one of those players that got her at her launch and never stopped playing her.
That demo line at the end lmfao. Well
Pig main since release: you're not quite correct on a few things, or rather you're missing some context.
Strictly speaking, there were no real concepts of 'stealth killer' back then, or at least it wasn't a formalized archetype in the sandbox, and the overall playstyle for both sides has shifted since then. You have to remember, DBD was still branded as and designed as a stealth horror game for survivors first and foremost, rather than the party game chase simulator we have now, to the point where 'loops' weren't as much a thing except in high tier play or when survivors discovered a repeatable infinite/near-infinite. There certainly wasn't really much in the way of youtubers propagating real strategy on the survivor side, though we were seeing some start to get a footing around the time of her release, and the chase aspect started to gain prominence even by release 2.5.0., the one that originally nixed her stealth aspect.
Every aspect of her original power was designed with chase and misdirection in mind, rather than 'real' stealth due to that not being a concern on the killer side, with an encouragement of single-hook moris and tunnels in-built by the devs: the slowdown of the original design sandbox was considered to be anything that discouraged a single survivor from being on a gen, plus their automatic activation in exit gates preventing quick end-game escapes, because the game as a whole was more lethal then. RBT's original design, if an analogy helps, was a combination Blood Warden/Deadlock: easily counterable, but able to catch some unaware and often providing significant value against solo or duo targets - not inherently lethal, but forcing survivors to face lethal consequences if unprepared.
There also wasn't originally math: each RBT had a designated box. That was it. At no point in Pig's history has it been a guaranteed 1 box search for every trap, nor a guaranteed 4 box search, but there's been longstanding mythologizing by the community; any and all math is a recent addition.
Well. As of this week they brought the Demogorgon back...
yeah since i had him before im just glad that hawkins is back
Call me a monster but if you start doing a box before a gen is done it should start your timer. That’s how most saw games go anyway
bruh this is literally what i do most of the time. maybe you're right actually
i would be for Survivors always starting with a Trap and the timer decreases with Each Gen repaired. Solving Boxes would only increase your Timer but never straight up remove it until you searched your Last Box (the fourth one).
Each Box then also applys a Debuff.
Tell me if you think that would be more in Line with the Saw Franchise. Cause i think it is.
Because as of now, with any confident team, the tape add on is worthless
I see her as a lot better balanced killer in the MOBILE VERSION OF THE GAME 🐷
pig goes oink 🐷. the pig goes oink 🐽. the pig goes oink oink oink. ☻️
To boop or not to boop,remember the choice is yours
#BUFFPIG
If a survivor boops the snoot, you are obligated to let them go. Not respecting the boop is a bannable offense.
@@mindassassin understood
19:40 Hex: Pentimento also makes the Pig uncrouch.
Dude, old dark, dimmish moonlight map gamma is truly brings chills. That game were the horror once.
It's really dumb that they can just run out the gate with the trap on their head that's inactive I see the trap should blow up regardless should become active if you head towards the gate you have to take off the trap before you can go out the gate instead of just taking with you.
The 6.0.0 changes were a buff, not a nerf.
Made her traps way more consteince and not rng
still trash
Another banger vide from SireK0zy keep it up man side note memes you add to your videos makes videos so entertaining to watch
i love how he legit has 2 different voices
Uhhh.. Demo's back. Guess you were right? Anyways, Nerf Pig
20:14 i am from the future, and we did get demo back before they fixed pig or gave her any meaningful rework. congrats you guessed it!
I've been a pig main since she released i adore her. And while I really try to love ghost face, he has zero gen pressure which is why i love pig so much.
Back in the day having RBT be usable at end game used to so nice, especially since Hatch sidnt activate then and now she loses her power worse than Freddy. Though you can still knowledge check newbies to see if they know they're able to leave through gates.
One of the funniest killers as for me) she’s so weak that more looks like a survivor than a killer
your trap would always be active if all gens are done
It's kinda crazy that I used to main pig on her release praising her as the top killer now we got stuff like blight and mastermind
What I hate about playing against the Pig is that you have to go through a number of Jigsaw boxes just to get the reverse bear trap off. There have been games where I’ve had stopped by 3 boxes and never found the key.
Im pretty sure at some point they made it so you have to go through 3 or 4 and have it taken off to reduce rng
You have to do 4 boxes at most (out of 5 available ones)
@@Prplex. I’ve recently played against the pig and got my trap off on the second box just barely in time.
You forgot the nerf with huntress lullaby. It doesn’t work on jigsaw boxes anymore.
No way. Really? I gotta double check that
to this day I still think your pfp if the one fortnite deafult characters
Unpopular opinion, the vibe of the pig is s+ tier. While the power may not be accurate, playing as and against her makes me feel like i am wrtching saw 1 and 3 again for the first time.
No it just feels like I’m being chase by peppa pig with reverse bear traps from saw
She actually turns DBD into a horror game
Pls someone explain me the policy. Why devs nerfed her on every Patch? She is paid character. She should be interesting to Play and to buy. Devs dont want money? I dont understand.
i think it was an accident. they made a kilelr that was weak and had a lot of unfair bs stuff. they nerfed all the bs and didnt rework her power into something cooler. so there you go.
@@SireK0zy Oh boy, it was anything but an accident. When Pig first released, she was the 2nd strongest Killer in the game, only losing to the Nurse. Because of this, survs cried and cried and cried, and since Pig was having a high pick rate combed with a high kill rate, yeah, massive nerfs incoming.
The only reason BHVR won't nerf someone as Nurse is because she has the lowest pick rate.
20:14 …aged like milk. In a good way.
So basically aged like wine?
@@SireK0zy I’m not a wine person, so maybe it aged like some Dr Pepper idk
"having Demogorgon back is more likely" - this aged like fine milk
😭 the amount of nerfs LOL
After watching this video from start to finish, I’ve come to the logical conclusion that this killer is massively broken and way too OP, Behaviour needs to get on it immediately and nerf the Pig. Could be bad for the health of the game to continue to leave the Pig in her current state.
you could crawl out in the dying state with a head trap and it wouldnt pop. At least i noticed this when pig first released.
You know something, I think the xbox version of dbd was bugged for several years. If she put a bear trap on you and the timer ran out but you were opening a box you just wouldn’t die. I thought it was intended but when I played pc I died solving the box. Either xbox is bugged or my copy is bugged idk.
Can you make video on killer using other power and killer using survivor perks and survivor using killer
exploits? yeah i have those in plans once i m done with the killers
i come from the future to tell you that the pig finally got a buff and is know really enjoyable to play as
She got Buff and nerf
@@prolero90pl well it still happen to me to have kills by helmet even after their nerf tbh and also i've always played her with ambush and crouching addons so it doesn't bother me
"having demo back is more likely scenario than this".... and he was right
Glad some people watch videos till the end. Now try watching my video about camping. let's see if the ending also aged well
*slowly looks at Demogorgon and the Stranger Things stuff officially returning*
Well, you were right.
I wonder if the pig is gonna get buffed before they remove him again 😂
Yo, I'm back for another question. I don't think you remember but I had previously commented on ur legion video asking for a video about the glitch where we could put killer perks,abilities on survivors and vice versa. I just wanna know if u have started it or what I should expect in the future about this.
Thankyou, loved this video as well
i remember deadharding at the exitgates on release lol
Anyone who gets mad they chose Amanda over Hoffman get your head checked. Hoffman is the worst of the 3 it’s a blessing we got Amanda😭
As a huge saw fan. The pig is beyond a massive disappointment. She was going to be my main until I realised her gameplay was the exact same as trapper just eat pallet upon pallet upon pallet and hope you zone them but on maps like the game pig is not fun.
Or down a survivor and make them play your game by setting up ambushes where you think they'll go to remove their trap.
Regarding actions that make Pig exit stealth mode.... I think you can add anything actions relating to events too. Like right now, collecting void energy cancels the crouch.
oh wow, so one more nerf? that's it nuts
As a pig main , I hope pig gets positive change in march-April changes
Rancor pig is actually kinda nuts right now
But rancor works for every killer the same way doesn't it?
Run rancor and Nemesis if ya wanna be evil, RBT the one you wanna chase at end game that's no ob and you get 2 dancers lol
If you use rancor and game afoot you can keep the pig in the croutch state to not trigger chases then when all the gens use noed and on shot down and instant mori everyone
@@SireK0zy
i wonder how good she'll be with this new update, giving ambush a massive buff but nerfing traps
I have an idea for an April Fools Video.
Make a "I played with all Versions of Adrenaline" Video and Cover it like your Normal Videos. Just that ... well you know.
It honestly sucks that part of how we got here, was Noobs complaining about Pig being OP because they didn't know what to do against her... These are the same people to be infinitely more likely to be immersed in trying to survive
Make clown next 👌🏼
yeah i gues. ive already started recording the footage
Are those old clips? If not then how did h get access to old dbd?
All the clips are new. Yes you can play old dbd now. All the info is in my discord
I’m convinced the dbd team just secretly hates the saw series
i mean they finally buued the pig yesterday. so i guess the hired someone new
what if an inactive traps would also activate when a survivor opens a gate
So what patch was snoot booping added?
no way he predicted demo coming back before pig actuslly gets anything useful
Awesome I get to watch a new vid while I'm recovering from stitches on my foot. Also, this video has 666 likes
Omg in hope it's nothing serious
@@SireK0zy It's not no worries!
Is itg serious?!?
I'm interested in your thoughts with the updates coming next week
U forgot about video tape I stant dash it used to be yellow no its ultra rare and makes it so that all survivors spawn in the game with traps on not activated
pretty sure i covered it
so as a new player what ive gathered is everything in the old days was either shitty af or broken af
Like now, in fact
One thing I hate about pig are her pink add-ons - starting with all of the traps already on the survivors head seems like the
worst thing you can do with her, after all everything you had to pressure the survivors is gone in the first few minutes...
lmao exactly. they just get rid of them at the start and all you get out of it is MAYBE one early chase if you're lucky.
But what about Amanda's Letter? I consider it a pretty good add-on (even though i never use it nowadays lol)
Would giving Pig all the strong shit she used to have (M2 as a basic attack; traps instantly activate at endgame; 24 TR; NOT the old amount of JigSaw boxes cuz i understand why they were increased) make her a good killer nowadays?
stronger but not strong. more like the annoying. wouldnt be viable but would just feel unfair again
Maybe just End game hats cause mft are among us. And it makes the survivors debate whether try to save teammate by distracting while they search or just dip and pray for hatch spawn.
I think they should rework the pig from the ground up, skull merchant style. Just need the shit out of her in every way. 😂
BUT SIREK0ZY! we need to nerf pig
At this point pig needs to go back to the basics. Complete rework from the ground up. Pig these days is just a way for survivors to get that extra bacon while the killer gets porked. Hopefully after a complete rework she will no longer be a ham.
I don’t get why they did this to her a survivor shouldn’t be able to leave without taking off the hat unless hatch but anyway of leaving through the gate cuz it’s rewards the killer for putting on a hat at end game
WE WANT SUSSY BAKA MYERS NEXT
pig is way too overpowered, she needs her 200th nerf, her ability is way too strong and will kill the game.
thank good we have a weak nurse to balance this out
@@SireK0zy true, nurse at least isnt busted unlike pig, nurse is like C tier at best, yeah..
My man predicted the future in the end demo really came back and pig is still bad
Lmao Demogorgon IS back!
im getting better at predicting the future. let's see if im gonna be right about the next thing: bhvr are gonna revert or easen the ptb changes for trickster. come back here in two weeks and let's see if i'm right.
The end of the vid aged well😂😂😂
Pig is one of the most accurate killers to her source material
We did it guys. The pig got buffed and actually feels nice to play finally. Yippie
Wait till she hits the live servers. I'm sure BHVR is just meming and in reality they're gonna take all of her add-ons and give them to bubba.
April 1st you gotta do the unknown
I feel like another good video would be all versions of flashlights or keys.
I like how BHVR nerfed pig and called it a buff and every1 in eng community repeated like this is true. And actually only eng community thinks so. Maybe others just think their own heads, but not only listen to devs
They paid you to say all of this the pig is overpowered, and she needs to be nerf
devs don't play killers that just facts! one of the main problems with this game! and why its trash. i swear only like 1 dev plays killer so he/she gets no say at bvhr lol.
the all play killer. just not at the level you expect
bro said there is no way to know how it worked. it was each trap needed a key. a certain box had said key. so survivors would need to find the box. to the survivor it was a 25% chance, then 33%, 50%, then 100%, but to the game code it was either just the right box or wrong box
who said there's no way to know?
After seen this video I'm glad of the current pig
demo before pig buff💀
Demo came back btw
I that it will be myers
Well demo did actually come back before pig buff lmao
Version 7.6.0 nerf the Pig AGAIN 🥲
Naaah she been bugged this time. Significantly
@@SireK0zy trap time 3 minutes? No more possibility to see jigsaw boxes? The buff on the ambush is really nice I have to admit I played a match last night was amazing