Why Protons Are Still Such a Mystery to Scientists

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    Protons make up most of the regular matter int he universe, but we're still figuring out a few of their quirks... Or quarks. Join Hank Green and learn why protons are still so mysterious to scientists, and what we've discovered about them so far!
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    Welp...Maybe We Were Wrong About Protons
    The charmed life of the proton

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  • @SciShow
    @SciShow  Год назад +60

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    • @srgarathnor
      @srgarathnor Год назад

      so lets see, cant find dark matter, matter can be made up of super heavy particles, perhaps dark matter has these charm quarks in abundance?

    • @trilloff
      @trilloff Год назад +1

      Is it possible that the smashing of protons causes the up quark to gain energy and shift to a charm quark for a fraction of a second?

    • @Sgt-Gravy
      @Sgt-Gravy Год назад +3

      A bit random but... could you higher a sign language interpreter or would it cost too much?? I'm dyslexic and becoming hard of hearing so subtitles don't help me enjoy your videos. Just curious. Thank you for your educational content

    • @Ancipital_
      @Ancipital_ Год назад

      Keep it a hobby kids, we need plumbers and electricians a lot more.

    • @iwanttwoscoops
      @iwanttwoscoops Год назад

      @@Ancipital_ yikes

  • @TenyoS
    @TenyoS Год назад +275

    Me: "I wish I had more charm."
    Genie: "Granted!"
    Me: *becomes 166x as dense*

    • @tonytaskforce3465
      @tonytaskforce3465 Год назад +9

      I know that feeling only too well. 🤣

    • @demezzerate6769
      @demezzerate6769 Год назад +7

      lmao this is mr peanutbutter

    • @ThaitopYT
      @ThaitopYT Год назад +10

      Harem manga authors: Sounds about right.

    • @ExpandDong420
      @ExpandDong420 9 месяцев назад +1

      This sounds like a premise for a Stand

  • @Mcgif21
    @Mcgif21 Год назад +263

    “Charm Quark” sounds like a crafting item in a fantasy game lol

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Год назад +16

      the strange quark was named because the particles it made were strange, by contemporary standard. Theorist realized it would be charming if it was part of a doublet, like up, down. And thus it was named.

    • @johannaweichsel3602
      @johannaweichsel3602 Год назад +10

      It'll also get you a discount on the bar on Deep Space 9

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад +3

      To the German ear it sounds like a bowl of beguiling curd.

    • @CaritasGothKaraoke
      @CaritasGothKaraoke Год назад +5

      “Charm Quark” sounds to me like a skill possessed by a dabo girl who also knows oo-mox and wants a raise.

    • @kyks6771
      @kyks6771 Год назад

      🤵🏼‍♀️ ©️♓🅰️®️♏ 🦆

  • @fairlyaveragegamer4000
    @fairlyaveragegamer4000 Год назад +991

    The fact that quantum physics is reality makes living in reality so unreal. Seriously amazing and strange.

    • @curtiswfranks
      @curtiswfranks Год назад +20

      Doing the math helps.

    • @ancientswordrage
      @ancientswordrage Год назад +40

      And charming

    • @itsohaya4096
      @itsohaya4096 Год назад +34

      @@curtiswfranks that's a good point, (currently) mathematics are the only way to "see" certain behaviours.

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut Год назад +20

      Well, it's what some think is reality, we really, REALLY don't KNOW nearly enough to have much certainty about much of any of it, presently.

    • @Dee-jp7ek
      @Dee-jp7ek Год назад +74

      This is why I love science so much. At first you realize the world isn't magical and everything has a logical explanation but you go further and you realize the world is more magical than you ever thought possible.

  • @Wrulfy
    @Wrulfy Год назад +531

    Glad to hear Quantum physicists have now installed the fabric launcher and can use the charm mod instead of having to rely on the quark mod

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Год назад +59

      Hey, the charm mod *is* a quark mod. It's just a really heavy-weight version. I don't know why anyone would prefer it.

    • @MrV1604
      @MrV1604 Год назад +22

      very funny but a charm particle is still a quark

    • @platonmakinen8280
      @platonmakinen8280 Год назад +7

      @@MrV1604and so is charm mod

    • @open_my_eyes3311
      @open_my_eyes3311 Год назад +6

      ¿Heavy-weight mod? My computer doesn't even meet the the space-time requirements for to the proton mod :(

    • @shmockette7158
      @shmockette7158 Год назад +1

      But Charm is on Forge too!!! Forge sucks but it do got all the mods

  • @oriongurtner7293
    @oriongurtner7293 Год назад +16

    That ‘intrinsic charm’ pun at the end was perfect, thank you

  • @calebrobinson6406
    @calebrobinson6406 Год назад +61

    Ive heard people compare particle accelerators to learn how a car works by crashing cars together. I think of it like learning how to build something from Ikea with only a list of parts

    • @Pryderi_
      @Pryderi_ Год назад +13

      I personally think it’s more like learning how Ikea works by smashing furniture parts together

    • @aguyontheinternet8436
      @aguyontheinternet8436 Год назад +8

      I personally think it's more like learning how IKEA works by smashing IKEA stores together

    • @ACE-ze1qg
      @ACE-ze1qg Год назад +4

      I personally think it's like learning how to build a piece of IKEA furniture by smashing Scandinavians together.

    • @berkertaskiran
      @berkertaskiran Год назад +5

      We smash particles together because that's the only way to observe them. You can't just zoom in 1 million x to see what's up. It's not really possible to find a good analogy for that.

    • @brankozivlak3291
      @brankozivlak3291 13 дней назад

      No, they break apart the particles like children break apart a toy to see what's inside. It's high time they stopped being children.

  • @marginbuu212
    @marginbuu212 Год назад +27

    A charm quark is like answering yes to a non-yes-or-no question.

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge Год назад +67

    In the weird world of subatomic physics, a watch has more mass when it's wound and running than when it has wound down and stopped.

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 Год назад +14

      Indeed. This is correct. Also, an object sitting at a higher elevation has more mass than an identical object sitting at a lower elevation due to the higher object having more potential energy simply due to E=MC².

    • @downsidebrian
      @downsidebrian Год назад +17

      That one isn't quantum physics, it's relativity.

    • @peter4210
      @peter4210 Год назад +10

      @@BackYardScience2000 Sorry but no. You are mixing up concepts. Potential Energy of an object sitting higher then an other when both are at rest is not actual energy. they both have the same energy except for the difference in rotation speed from the earths axis. In fact the further away an object is from an other, the lesser the attraction from gravity. This means the higher object is giving lighter pressure on the floor it is compared to the lower object.
      The potential energy in a spring or a elastic band is actual energy being stored and release. For instance. Take any rubber band and stretch it in front of a IR camera. The band will heat up. You can visibly see it in winter with sling shot bands. If you leave that rubber band extended and let it cool. it will actual not snap back because you let the energy radiate away. I find it stupid that we call that and the object resting but higher both as potential energy because in the case of the rubber band the energy is actually there. Increasing the mass of the object. The Higher object only gains it's energy when you let it fall back down and imidiatly releases it on impact. You might say you used energy to get that object up but you had to remove that energy to have the object sit still.
      Object of different heights having different energy is more of a orbital thing. where the higher you wanna go in a orbit, the more energy you need to have. Intuitively. The lower object is going faster relative to the earths point of view yet the higher object has more energy. Some people still call it potential energy but it is not potentially there. It is there actively. our moon is gaining energy. that's why it's moving away from us every year. Mars's moon are losing energy and will collide with mars eventually.

    • @Lord.Kiltridge
      @Lord.Kiltridge Год назад +4

      Please don't confuse mass with weight. The watch analogy that started this thread is about mass, not weight. E=m0c2+K+U

    • @tsubadaikhan6332
      @tsubadaikhan6332 Год назад +2

      @@peter4210 Sorry, that rubber band analogy can't quite be correct. You can stretch a rubber band around an object and put it in a freezer overnight, and it will still spring back. Its Potential Energy can't all be stored as heat. I get when you stretch it it heats, but it doesn't require holding on to that heat.

  • @TheZzpop
    @TheZzpop Год назад +151

    I imagine that what is meant by "the proton contains a charm quark" here is that one of the up-quarks is fluctuating into becoming a charm quark for breif moments of time before going back in some structured way not previously apreciated which makes it stand out from the background quantum noise of other random fluctuations inside the proton

    • @yungbloodas3789
      @yungbloodas3789 Год назад +8

      That’s what I was thinking too, but can any physicists confirm? It’ll be greatly appreciated 🙏🏾

    • @darealpoopster
      @darealpoopster Год назад +10

      It's closer to a charm anti-charm pair "fizzing" in due to the binding energy of the proton.

    • @boghag
      @boghag Год назад +8

      @@darealpoopster Wouldn't this be rather non-intrinsic though?

    • @darealpoopster
      @darealpoopster Год назад +7

      @@boghag But you do have conservation rules, don’t you? Conservation of charmness included

    • @vulpax5915
      @vulpax5915 Год назад +9

      Whats Up quark

  • @Neotenico
    @Neotenico Год назад +59

    Kind of crazy how Heisenberg's principle and the observer effect, something that seemed so trivial when I briefly learned about it in high school chemistry/physics, is so monumentally important in how we navigate our understanding of the universe.

    • @philipm3173
      @philipm3173 Год назад +11

      The observer effect is almost always incorrectly explained though. 'Observer' does not mean what many think it means and has nothing to do with consciousness. I highly recommend Chris Fields' lecture 'What is Entanglement?' for a lucid and straightforward explanation.

    • @SoulDelSol
      @SoulDelSol Год назад +4

      Ya it's just we observe a single reality and not all possibilities. Sure before a baseball game we know there will be a winner and a loser. After the game we know who won. It had nothing to do with us watching it, it's just that future options became a past event

  • @RavenGhostwisperer
    @RavenGhostwisperer Год назад +25

    The brick comparison is a bit misleading. There are no direct mass measurements for any of the quarks except for the top-quark. All other measurements come from bound states, such as quark-antiquark pairs - which might or might not be closely representative of their masses.

    • @brogant6793
      @brogant6793 Год назад +1

      True but I suppose because it’s a bound state it would be a lower limit on mass so it may be an even heavier brick if it could exist alone. But a good point

  • @katendress6142
    @katendress6142 Год назад +16

    Maybe cats are made up of protons with an unusually high number of charm quarks, which allows them to become extra-heavy when you try to move them out of the way?

    • @adjappleton
      @adjappleton Год назад +1

      My orange and white Judy does this flop along the back of the sofa onto my neck. No joke, its like being in a car accident the force with which she slams into me. 🐈🪨

    • @anonymizationoverload9831
      @anonymizationoverload9831 Год назад

      Cats certainly are very charming... :D

    • @paulatreides0777
      @paulatreides0777 Год назад

      @@anonymizationoverload9831 agreed so charming

  • @realname2566
    @realname2566 Год назад +23

    Sci show is flames

    • @nickromo8195
      @nickromo8195 Год назад +1

      @Chelseafagan1 do you really think people will fall for this

  • @CartoonKidOLLY
    @CartoonKidOLLY Год назад +62

    this is mindbending....how did they figure out the mass of the charm quark when it only appears sometimes? this is so beyond me

    • @felipemonteiro5877
      @felipemonteiro5877 Год назад +25

      They likely used a nonperturbative trick called the chiral symmetry breaking, and analyzed the mass-dependent effects by using QCD perturbation.

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl Год назад +8

      Particle accelerators. They smash atomic nuclei together to see what flies out, and by the way they spin and fly away, they can tell the weights of each individual quarks and gluons.

    • @bryaneberly3588
      @bryaneberly3588 Год назад +12

      the particle accelerator has a series of magnets surrounding the tube that are calibrated to attract specific objects; one magnet is used to draw out up quarks, another for down quarks, another for electrons and another for muons, etc.
      when a particle is smashed apart, whatever objects are in the collision or the result of the collision will be grabbed by these magnets.
      observers can see how those objects traveled to get to the magnets. quarks go one way and spin a certain direction, as do the electrons, etc.
      so, in a very basic nutshell, that is how they can tell what is what.

    • @TheRABIDdude
      @TheRABIDdude Год назад +43

      @@felipemonteiro5877 That's a very funny response to a comment which ended with "this is so beyond me"

    • @Ancipital_
      @Ancipital_ Год назад

      They hazard a guess, that's all they do.

  • @brittneyziegler5742
    @brittneyziegler5742 Год назад +5

    Oh great. Now I can put “building blocks may weigh more than the atom” alongside “looking at them changes the results” when explaining why quantum and particle physics give me a headache

  • @scotthammond3230
    @scotthammond3230 Год назад +32

    Does this mean one of the two Up quarks in the proton occasionally converts to a Charm quark and then back? Then would a neutron show signs of occasionally having a Strange quark?

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Год назад +1

      that is a good use of isospin symmetry (really "Flavor SO(4)"), but that symmetry is so broken, ppl don't use it much.

  • @Lightning_Lance
    @Lightning_Lance Год назад +9

    Hank, *you* have intrinsic charm. btw that was your best pun yet :)

  • @KingsleyIII
    @KingsleyIII Год назад +11

    Up, down, strange, charm, top, bottom, if you don't know what a quark is, it don't matter; you still got 'em.

  • @kimwelch4652
    @kimwelch4652 Год назад +41

    Point of order: no one has or can observe a quark much less a charm quark directly. Experimenters use a form of attribute accounting to determine if the particles that result from a collision may contain a charm quark. Your talk sounded like we were observing quarks directly, which we are not, so there is still a lot of guess work going on.

    • @dororo2597
      @dororo2597 Год назад

      Thought so

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Год назад +4

      Deep Inelastic Scattering: electron makes photon (light) hits quark, scattered electron tells you photon energy and polarization. Quark has been seen, by light.

    • @nickandres7829
      @nickandres7829 Год назад +2

      @@DrDeuteron Cite that paper please.

    • @kimwelch4652
      @kimwelch4652 Год назад +1

      @@DrDeuteron You can do that with subatomic particles like Protons and Neutrons, but I do not think that works with quarks. When you hit them hard enough to get inside the Baryon the Baryon breaks apart and scatters then the bits and pieces reform immediately into other particles. So, you lose the photon and the Baryon in the collision and what comes out are a bunch of other things that are made of quarks and "virtual" quarks created by the photon's energy. You don't "see" the quark you only see the reformed products of the collision.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Год назад +2

      @@kimwelch4652 you're describing exclusive scattering. DIS started out as inclusive. A recent Nobel prize (DGLAP eqs.) showed the process can be factored. Once the electron and parton exchange the photon, the harmonic debris doesn't matter.

  • @Zappygunshot
    @Zappygunshot Год назад +6

    "New research says this may not be the whole story" is pretty much the motto of quantum physicists, and scientists in general.

  • @davetoms1
    @davetoms1 Год назад +25

    Fascinating! I'm curious how they ruled out the Charm quark being generated by the extra energy put into the system by the velocity. Since the energy of the velocity itself can be literally converted into mass (E=mc^2) I'm curious how they showed the up and down quarks weren't the only constituents of the protons meaning the Charm quark was there all along as opposed to being generated from the excess energy of collisions, on occasion.

    • @garethdean6382
      @garethdean6382 Год назад +5

      This co0mes from the collision fragments themselves. When the particles collide, the whole proton doesn't interact. Instead two small parts will, say an up quark and a gluon. Each of the possible components will carry a fraction of the proton's energy and also their own properties, which result in different products after collision. Collision is messy, but you can determine what collided if you have enough to sift through.

    • @Dan-Simms
      @Dan-Simms Год назад

      That's what I initially thought too, wondering if that extra mass was simply caused by the collision?

  • @professord1522
    @professord1522 Год назад +8

    I REALLY like this video. The quantum world is truly strange and amazing. GREAT job summarizing a very complex topic! NICE puns too! I especially like the fact that one of the studies you cite seems to have tested both a null hypothesis and an alternate hypothesis. :)

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero5170 Год назад +20

    I feel like the Charm Quarks are moving in a weird way to negate the mass like it's spinning in such a way that it's momentum is not felt until its broken apart and "weighed".... Such a cool concept and I'd love to explore it more at the LHC, that would be an awesome field trip but I'm also a little scared of it because it would literally pull the iron out of your blood if you get too close to it when it's on. 😅🙄😁

    • @brogant6793
      @brogant6793 Год назад +9

      Unfortunately it’s probably not the charm quarks spinning or anything like that, just some funky gluon interactions most likely(but I don’t specialise in particle so who’s to say!) The radiation down there in the LHC would kill you long before the magnets did, don’t worry they keep you safely up top when it’s switched on!

  • @bopcity5785
    @bopcity5785 Год назад +1

    Doesn't this decrease the binding energy in a proton and isn't that quite impactful?

  • @nasonguy
    @nasonguy Год назад +12

    My favorite model for intrinsic charm is the Hank Green model.

    • @doublej1076
      @doublej1076 Год назад +1

      I have no intrinsic charm and I'm pretty sure I'm heavier than Hank. Checkmate, particle physicists!

  • @Tommo0611
    @Tommo0611 Год назад +15

    One of the authors of the Nature paper you linked is actually my quantum mechanics professor at university! So cool to see his research subject in one of your videos

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Год назад

      Using machine learning is basically asking someone else for something, there is just some transparency in the reasoning behind the answer, more like an educated bet in the best escenario.

  • @Adam-ru8vq
    @Adam-ru8vq Год назад +3

    The charm quark proton is an IRL Shiny Pokémon 😂

  • @fredbergeron2193
    @fredbergeron2193 Год назад +4

    Im astonished by how quantum and particule physic are evolving so fast what a time to be alive

    • @paulthomas963
      @paulthomas963 4 месяца назад

      They've been stagnant for 70 years... The argument could be made they regressed since most of them didn't learn what physicists knew in the 1930s.

  • @edmunns8825
    @edmunns8825 Год назад +5

    I would think this would relate to the string theory gravity proposition where the gravitational force is spread over dimensions we can't experience. It's certainly interesting.

  • @ThatNateGuy
    @ThatNateGuy Год назад +13

    When showing the charm quark graphic around 1:19, there is a box with lines going corner to corner in the upper-left. Is that a missing character that just made it past editing or does that symbol represent something in the Standard Model?

    • @bruh-xp9zf
      @bruh-xp9zf Год назад +8

      Looks like a missing character.

    • @frostsmoke
      @frostsmoke Год назад +5

      Yup, it's supposed to be a "≈".

  • @nedludd7622
    @nedludd7622 Год назад +4

    It is difficult to make a clever quip as this is so informative.

  • @durintheking843
    @durintheking843 Год назад +5

    Wow, less than a minute into the video being posted. That's a first

  • @mobilemollusc615
    @mobilemollusc615 Год назад +8

    "If you don't know what a quark is, it don't matter you still got em"
    Quote from my favorite science song

    • @ohfrickitsvic
      @ohfrickitsvic Год назад +2

      And with leptons and bosons, unless somethings amiss, they make up everything that we can see and that we know exists!

    • @AliceYobby
      @AliceYobby Год назад

      Classic : )

  • @demolisherinfinite8606
    @demolisherinfinite8606 Год назад +4

    Guess you could say this video has me….charmed

  • @edopronk1303
    @edopronk1303 Год назад +3

    I am already curious about the noise in the proton.
    As I understand from this video, a proton is made of quarks and noise (aka particles coming and going in and out of existence).
    In biology, after the discovery of DNA, for a long time the ' package' DNA comes in was discarded as not important. It wasn't DNA so it couldn't influence evolution, so was thought. Later it was discovered it did influence evolution.
    I wonder if that's the same with the 'noise' in protons.

    • @paulthomas963
      @paulthomas963 4 месяца назад

      Protons are made of a shell of quantum fluctuations. It's simple, if they let it be.

  • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
    @DissociatedWomenIncorporated Год назад +4

    Personally, I’m made of cool ranch and salted caramel flavoured quarks.

  • @ceraphi717
    @ceraphi717 Год назад +3

    charm quarks are of course quarks precut into handy 5" squares and assembled into matching color sets for easier quark quilting

  • @kevinstoneburner1116
    @kevinstoneburner1116 Год назад +11

    Can the energy being put into the proton to get to these relativistic velocities be getting converted into mass that is sometimes assumed by an up quark, thereby making it appear charmed?

    • @tommclean9208
      @tommclean9208 Год назад

      no

    • @mikecrapse5285
      @mikecrapse5285 Год назад

      This question was addressed in the video

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Год назад

      No, because it is impossible for an up-type quark to be converted into another up-type quark. To put in technical terminology, a quark with weak hypercharge T3 = 1/2 cannot directly be converted to a quark of the same weak hypercharge (the same is true for the quarks with weak hypercharge -1/2).

    • @kevinstoneburner1116
      @kevinstoneburner1116 Год назад

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 Thank you much, this one helps!

    • @paulthomas963
      @paulthomas963 4 месяца назад

      Yes. It's a temporarily stable resonance of a relativistic proton. It's obvious... but not to particle physicists for some reason.

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 Год назад +6

    Ah yes quantum mechanics...when you start needing to roll sanity checks and the quantum mechanic's lab has nice straight jackets ready for when someone snaps and starts screaming "this doesn't make sense!" and needs to be sedated and calmed down...

  • @ijpthegreat
    @ijpthegreat Год назад +3

    Thank you, Hank Green, for giving us the quantum science

  • @williamspindler1603
    @williamspindler1603 Год назад +18

    Protons have always been my favorite subatomic particle cause their so positive!

  • @BruceNJeffAreMyFlies
    @BruceNJeffAreMyFlies Год назад +5

    Maybe a the charm quarks in a proton are only there sometimes, so their gravity doesn't appear as strong.. Kinda like pulse width modulation..

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Год назад

      protons don't evolve in time. If it's there then it's there now.

  • @gordonlawrence1448
    @gordonlawrence1448 Год назад +3

    Yes quantum mechanics is a game of probabilities, like working out the probability of going mad before you start to understand it.

    • @luciddewseed3095
      @luciddewseed3095 Год назад

      True. Ultimately it boils down to statistics at such a fundamental level.

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Год назад

      @@luciddewseed3095 Actually, no.

  • @Ghee_Buttersnaps
    @Ghee_Buttersnaps Год назад +9

    Love you guys 💗 making science cool Again

  • @martian14
    @martian14 Год назад +3

    The Antman movies are going to have a field day with this!

  • @nickandres7829
    @nickandres7829 Год назад +42

    0:53 Hasn't the idea always been that there are three valence quarks, but infinitely many other virtual quarks and gluons popping in and out of existence? The three quark model is just a model we used for representing the math and simplifying the interactions.
    Edit: You know, for a video titled "We still don't know how protons work", there seems to be a lot of people who seem to definitely know how protons work. Maybe you guys should be telling Hank Green and getting him to print a retraction.

    • @AlmightyXI
      @AlmightyXI Год назад +8

      The thing with virtual particles is they can't be directly detected, but the collider is detecting these so it's not the same phenomenon. The fact that the protons are kicked up to near light-speed through imparted magnetic energy though makes me wonder if that's what is allowing these to be produced here. It may be they occur in nature but only in high energy cosmic ray collisions.

    • @localverse
      @localverse Год назад

      @@AlmightyXI I had thought the same, but why would only the charm quark appear by itself, and not the strange quark by itself?

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Год назад +4

      There is no such a thing as virtual quarks. Quantum chromdynamics is studied using lattice field theory, and lattice field theory is a more accurate approximation for modelling the violent disturbances in the quantum fields inside a proton. The concept of virtual particles is used in quantum electrodynamics, but they do not actually physically exist. They are merely a mathematical tool, and there are alternative mathematical approaches to quantum chromodynamics that actually completely avoid the concept of virtual particles, and they account for the disturbances of quantum fields in some other way. You actually could also just use lattice field theory for quantum electrodynamics, and this approach has been successful. There are yet other approaches, such as the field configuration Feynman integrals.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Год назад +3

      @@localverse This has something to do with the (limited) conservation of weak hypercharge. A strange quark is a down-type quark, but a charm quark is an up-type quark.

    • @localverse
      @localverse Год назад +1

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 True, but I meant that if magnetically speeding up protons to near the speed of light would've somehow sometimes produced the charm quark as Brian hypothesizes, then why wouldn't it sometimes (hypothetically) produce a strange quark.

  • @moocowpong1
    @moocowpong1 Год назад +3

    I’m a little skeptical that they were able to apply rigorous statistical analysis to a machine learning model. How can they rule out the possibility of it doing some kind of complicated overfitting under the hood?

    • @garethdean6382
      @garethdean6382 Год назад +3

      Concerns like that is why the results are being me with increased peer review and skepticism.

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Год назад

      @@garethdean6382 You're confusing skepticism bias.

  • @sapphirII
    @sapphirII Год назад +4

    Can you make video of animals that are in the process of modifying their niche? Like I heard there's are wolves in British Colombia that are taking streams as their habitat and hunting aquatic prey, not unlike bears.

    • @Dan-Simms
      @Dan-Simms Год назад

      Not really modifying, wolves have fished for thousands of years.

  • @Rorschach1024
    @Rorschach1024 Год назад +6

    Is it possible that there are two different flavors of protons? Most only contain up and down quarks, but a small percentage contain charm and down quarks instead?

  • @misterthedork
    @misterthedork Год назад +2

    Any fans of Deep Space 9 will know that Quark has intrinsic charm 😄

    • @johannaweichsel3602
      @johannaweichsel3602 Год назад +1

      Aside from cultural misogyny, he's pretty adorable sometimes 🤣

  • @senojelyk
    @senojelyk Год назад +20

    That 0.6% is tantalizingly close to the fine structure constant, though I haven’t the foggiest idea what that means.

    • @destroyer2496
      @destroyer2496 Год назад +15

      It's probably just a coincidence tbh. Our brain really like to look for pattern even if there isn't any

    • @UnCavi
      @UnCavi Год назад +1

      It doesn't mean anything to be honest, we can play this game finding similarity between basically any given number in physics. It's not even that much close

    • @senojelyk
      @senojelyk Год назад +1

      @@UnCavi It's close enough to be interesting given that both numbers are describing probability magnitudes, and the 0.6% was arrived at by more or less Monte Carlo means, which limits the precision of the pseudo measurement.

  • @downsidebrian
    @downsidebrian Год назад +4

    Sounds like it's time for a new verse of Strange Charm, Hank!

  • @fredrichenning1367
    @fredrichenning1367 Год назад +9

    There is still so very much we do not know. Imagine an advanced civilization "out there" that not only understands all this, but can put that knowledge to us. Whatever they do would seem like magic, isn't that right Arthur C. Clark?

  • @shaunhall960
    @shaunhall960 Год назад +8

    The proton is like the Doctor's Tardis. It is bigger on the inside than the outside.

  • @videosbymathew
    @videosbymathew Год назад +10

    I'd love to know how they know a 1 in 3 million chance was achieved. What are the steps to confirm such a number?

    • @Moingboy
      @Moingboy Год назад +1

      I don't know how it is refined to such a degree, but it is the statistics concept of "likelihood of significance." In the wider world of physics, a likelihood of one in ten merits additional research and a likelihood of one in a hundred might be considered a discovery. Particle physics is much more careful though.

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 Год назад +2

      it's arbitrary--based on 5 standard deviations for a normal distribution

    • @dafyddthomas6897
      @dafyddthomas6897 Год назад +3

      Toss a coin 10 times, ifn you get 6 heads, 4 tails, then it is probably a fair coin. Ifn you get 10 heads in a row, there is 1/1,024 chance the coin is fair and 1,023/1,024 chance it is a cheat coin. 20 heads in a row, the chance of a fair coin is less than 1/ 1.000.000. 30 heads in a row, the chance of it being fair is less than 1/ 1,000,000,000

    • @SoulDelSol
      @SoulDelSol Год назад

      It's statistics to show what the chance is that the results occurred by accident

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 Год назад

      @@Moingboy It's like covering the state of Texas with a bunch of quarters a mile high where all of them but 1 are heads up and asking you to find the one that is heads down... Well, I'm exaggerating a bit here cause that's way more than 1 in 3 million... but you get the idea.

  • @Zombie-lx3sh
    @Zombie-lx3sh Год назад +8

    Correction: the sigma 3 doesn't mean a 1 in a 1000 chance they're wrong. It actually means a 1 in 1000 chance of getting these results by pure chance with the currently accepted model. These 1 in a 1000 happen all the time and especially in particle physics, turn out to indeed be caused by pure chance more often than not. So nothing to get excited about, yet.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Год назад +3

      hence the 5 sigma threshold for discovery

  • @muckyesyesindisguise3854
    @muckyesyesindisguise3854 Год назад +3

    Who th is eating quarks?!

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Год назад +23

    This has been a concept bouncing around in my own head for awhile, just from probabilities, and to see that quantum physics agrees with that silly idea in my head sorta breaks my brain a bit. Just crazy. But quantum physics is crazy, anyway!
    Thanks, Hank & all, for all you do! ❤️❤️

    • @bryaneberly3588
      @bryaneberly3588 Год назад

      if you really want a head trip, start reading the Hindu Vedas and see just how precise the language gets about the atomic world they could hardly know anything about way back when.

    • @TheRABIDdude
      @TheRABIDdude Год назад +6

      I'm curious, what was the concept you came up with exactly? The idea of massive subatomic particles existing a fraction of the time and so only lending a fraction of their mass to the whole?

  • @Stierenkloot
    @Stierenkloot Год назад +11

    It’s not that weird. Weight means a different thing on such a small scale. It’s more about how a thing behaves. When you separate parts they behave differently and apparently “weigh” differently. It’s not that weird. It’s more like looking at weight in terms of value. You take a house apart then some of the parts may have more value on their own than as part of a house.

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 Год назад +6

      After you've said "weight" instead of mass, I stopped reading

    • @pe1900
      @pe1900 Год назад +5

      @@blinded6502 if you understood what they were saying enough to correct it it doesn’t need to be corrected

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 Год назад +3

      @@pe1900 I understood that he doesn't know what he's talking about. And that neither do you.

    • @jesse7631
      @jesse7631 Год назад +5

      @@blinded6502 Easy buddy; save the disdainful snark for Facebook.

    • @user-pn4py6vr4n
      @user-pn4py6vr4n Год назад +2

      @@jesse7631 If someone is going to speak authoritatively on this, the least we should expect is that they get the basics like the difference between mass and weight correct. It's high school science. (More like middle school for my Americans.)

  • @ChrisSudlik
    @ChrisSudlik Год назад +7

    2 wildly cool things about this: it was discovered by running ML algorithms on accelerator data to recreate from scratch rather than our assumptions, and found the charm quark, mostly in heavier nuclear collisions. (oh shoot I started typing too soon, he got to this point, nice!)
    Second cool thing: I've been telling people I think this is the case and that we're probably going to discover it soon since around 2013, and that this may open up a couple new potential dimensions of the periodic table as we find new potentially stable configurations around 2015, but we're still a few years out from having simulations high enough quality to start finding potential new stable elements orthogonal to our present table and I'm not seeing nearly enough work in that direction.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад

      And might it so happen that (some of) those orthogonal elements do not interact with the electromagnetic field?

    • @ChrisSudlik
      @ChrisSudlik Год назад +1

      @@lonestarr1490 I imagine this'd mostly be different flavors of quark, replacing inner orbitals with muons in very heavy elements where the inner orbitals are very relativistic, or wrapping ordinary shells of nuclear matter around more exotic psuedostable things like tetraquarks, all of which still interact with the EM field. But we could likely get elements with significantly stronger chemical binding energies, with more symmetry that fall into superconducting states more easily, etc.

  • @constance.mcentee
    @constance.mcentee Год назад +3

    If matter can't be created or destroyed, how can these particles just pop into and out of existence? Or, is this one of those cases where things get really strange (no sub-atomic particle pun intended) at the quantum level?

    • @garethdean6382
      @garethdean6382 Год назад +2

      The simple explanation is that matter CAN be created, so long as it is then destroyed in a certain amount of time. Virtual particles 'pop in and out of existence' all the time and the mass they add is the 'average' of their mass and nothing.
      The more complex explanation is that these are not 'real particles' (Hence the term 'virtual') and are more like 'energy shadows' in that particle's field. A sort of random background static noise that, because it exists, carries a certain amount of energy that does not increase or decrease over time.

    • @constance.mcentee
      @constance.mcentee Год назад

      @@garethdean6382 Oh! I missed that they're virtual particles. Thanks!

    • @Boogaboioringale
      @Boogaboioringale Год назад +2

      Matter can be created from energy. Energy and mass can transform into one another. After all, E=MC^2.

    • @paulthomas963
      @paulthomas963 4 месяца назад

      The real answer or the answer in textbooks?
      They're from the quantum field which has essentially infinite energy. It's not a creation it's conservation of energy. Hank's answer would be they are virtual. But they are as measurably real -- more real -- than any particle the LHC has come up with.

  • @alphad0gowar507
    @alphad0gowar507 Год назад +3

    SECOND COMMENT

  • @rv7699
    @rv7699 Год назад

    Sci show is always up-to-date 👏👏

  • @livephysiology
    @livephysiology Год назад +1

    The seeming contradiction in saying a brick from the house can weigh more than the house can also be found in aspects of physiology. For example, IL-6 is part of the pro-inflammatory cascade that leads to inflammation. What's something that can stop inflammation and be anti-inflammatory? IL-6 when secreted as a myokine. Similarly, an increase in T regulatory cells can be linked to an anti-inflammatory state that protects healthy individuals from disease. What's something that goes wrong in the immune system when cancer develops? Often times there was yet another increase in the number of T regulatory cells.

  • @maddsholland1199
    @maddsholland1199 Год назад +2

    Videos like these are quite charming ^.^

  • @ltousch
    @ltousch Год назад +1

    Loved the conclusion!

  • @Spencer-wc6ew
    @Spencer-wc6ew Год назад +2

    I still find it funny that physicists' method of learning how the universe works is smashing things together until the results get interesting.

  • @Karishma_Unspecified
    @Karishma_Unspecified Год назад

    Thank you for this video - it made my QFT-addled brain happy :)

  • @paradoxicallyexcellent5138
    @paradoxicallyexcellent5138 Год назад +1

    "There are lots of plausible models of intrinsic charm."
    Preach.

  • @samyciuta493
    @samyciuta493 Год назад +2

    Amazing!! 🥰🥰🤯

  • @simongross3122
    @simongross3122 Год назад +2

    I'm waiting for the pineapple quark to be discovered in a pizza proton.

  • @jigsound
    @jigsound Год назад

    Intrinsically charming! ✨

  • @rayazkhan9498
    @rayazkhan9498 Год назад

    Thanks for producing such a high quality video that I, who know absolutely nothing about this stuff, kinda gets the idea of what a charm quark is, why it's interesting for theorizing, and the challenges inherent to & approaches of observing them. All in under 6 minutes. Lifelong SciShow fan!
    Question about something @4:13
    Where does this one in three million standard of certainty for new knowledge come from? And how is it estimated? Thank you to everyone involved in making these videos!

    • @albert6157
      @albert6157 Год назад +5

      This comes from physics, social sciences and statistical analysis. We call this standard deviation, "significance", or sigma confidence interval. 5 sigma confidence is the 1 in 3 million chance error which is needed to determine the likelihood that a discovery has been made. (However, the process of verification and publishing a discovery is way more complicated than that) They calculate this based on the accuracy and precision of the experiment. This also depends on the error bars and repetition of the hypotheses, and also whether other experiments/methods can prove or disprove the hypotheses. (By merging and doing metanalysis of papers and other studies) If you wanna do further reading, go look for sigma confidence interval, or "the 68-95-99.7 rule".

    • @rayazkhan9498
      @rayazkhan9498 Год назад +1

      @@albert6157 thank you for the informative reply!!

  • @rafaelmoreno9597
    @rafaelmoreno9597 Год назад

    Whoa... Never seen a SciShow that confused me. Hank, you got me!

  • @beansperkins
    @beansperkins Год назад +1

    So the mass of the component quarks is 0.2% the mass of the proton, but the charm quark is more massive, but only rarely there? Does this potentially dispel the confusing explanation that most of the mass of a proton comes from the binding energy of massless gluons?

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 Год назад

      No, it doesn't. And it's not confusing.
      If you were to confine two massless particles together via some force, they would have mass, since they can now either stand still or travel at any fraction of the speed of light.

  • @Luischocolatier
    @Luischocolatier Год назад +2

    Charm quarks are just the real world equivalent to load bearing coconut PNG's in videogames

  • @FerrariKing
    @FerrariKing Год назад

    I find this stuff so interesting

  • @xXNoMoralzXx
    @xXNoMoralzXx Год назад +1

    That pun at the end was perfect.

  • @MaxOakland
    @MaxOakland Год назад

    So interesting

  • @kambojarian
    @kambojarian Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @The_Savage_Wombat
    @The_Savage_Wombat Год назад

    This video is intrinsically charming

  • @ChrispyNut
    @ChrispyNut Год назад

    The title of the video really made me smile, a knowing (well, ish, this is quantum physics afterall), satisfied smile. Thankyou for that, whoever came up with the video title.

  • @FlameLegend100
    @FlameLegend100 Год назад

    Nice to know awesome 😁👍.

  • @localbird
    @localbird Год назад

    Please talk about oxbow lakes They're so cool!

  • @ungenbunyon5548
    @ungenbunyon5548 Год назад +2

    The micro is so interesting, it can't help but make you think about the macro, its a dimension were too big yet too small to see without aid, we just have this mental perception of it at best, I wonder what we'd see if we could multiply our size by a billion billion times while keeping our known universe it's same size, imagine being able to take a cruse across an atom

  • @TurkishKS
    @TurkishKS Год назад

    "Hey, your intrinsic charm is showing."
    "Are you calling me fat?"

  • @SeanCMonahan
    @SeanCMonahan Год назад +2

    Maybe I'm living a semi-charmed kind of life?

  • @emmanuelweinman9673
    @emmanuelweinman9673 Год назад

    This video was charming.

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 Год назад

    I was just listening to a podcast where they were discussing how the discovery of statistical and probability mathematics is really a rather new thing. We even had calculus so long before it. They postulate that thinking in terms of probability is so foreign to our human minds, so it took a while. We make probability judgments all day, but don’t use numbers to do so.
    What is wild, is that statistics and probability underlie the nature of reality in our universe, and we know this now, yet feel completely detached from it, because we cannot EXPERIENCE it.

  • @humicroav215
    @humicroav215 Год назад +2

    Up, down, strange, charm, top, bottom; if you don't know what a quark is, it don't matter, you still got 'em.

    • @instaperil
      @instaperil Год назад +1

      I came here to say this

  • @ceiling_cat
    @ceiling_cat Год назад +1

    What i got from this video:
    Thanks to Brilliant we still don't know what is all matter in the universe is made of
    But we know they are made of up and down spinning chraming squarks

  • @jordanwood5992
    @jordanwood5992 Год назад +1

    (tastes quark)
    Yes. Definitely Charm flavoured

  • @lucho_1980
    @lucho_1980 Год назад

    I also have been searching for submitted subtle hints of intrinsic charm quarks for decades.

  • @panamanianviking3153
    @panamanianviking3153 Год назад

    Hank Greene as reached narration level god

  • @lifeisgood339
    @lifeisgood339 Год назад

    Do a video on phonon interaction in a crystal lattice

  • @BlackKnightsCommander
    @BlackKnightsCommander Год назад +2

    I could be misunderstanding something, however isn't it also possible that the charm quark could be formed during the collision from the massive amounts of energy involved, and not something that was there intrinsically?

    • @rekagotik2785
      @rekagotik2785 Год назад

      I think that's exactly what they are trying to prove. For a long time, people believe that these charm quarks are extrinsic
      However, in August 2022, the NNPDF Collaboration published a paper saying that they have evidence which supports the possibility that these things are actually intrinsic.

    • @BlackKnightsCommander
      @BlackKnightsCommander Год назад

      @@rekagotik2785 ah that makes sense. thanks.

    • @paulthomas963
      @paulthomas963 4 месяца назад

      I love how obvious this is to everyone but the 'experts.'

  • @andriashausiku2339
    @andriashausiku2339 Год назад

    "... and that's how the brick weighs more than a house." 😭😂😂

  • @XxCheezemanTroyxX
    @XxCheezemanTroyxX Год назад +2

    Is there a possibility that there will be a build up of the particles after they smashed the protons that there would be a leftover of energy….. unless I’m completely missing the whole thing and not understanding what I just heard.

  • @hobsdigree2
    @hobsdigree2 4 дня назад

    My great great grandparents i don't think could have imagined us putting a man on the moon. We might not be able to imagine being able to zoom in on a proton yet, but we'll get there.