🔴 VOIGTLANDER 50mm f1.0 vs f1.2
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2022
- PART2: Real World Test: 9 Model Shoots Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1.0 vs 50mm f1.2 on Leica SL
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The new Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1.0 photos / real world testing during my model photography photoshoots in Poland. I test the Voigtlander 50mm f/1 on the Leica SL, Leica CL, Leica M240, Lumix S5 and also Leica M3 film camera (film not yet developed). Join my Patreon to see BTS videos of my model photos and how I light them/ the gear I use and/or sign up for one my Leica workshops - UK, Poland, and New York hopefully later this year.
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I like how you interact with the models. It's essential to have the model relax and feel comfortable with the photographer. Beautiful work Matt.
Thanks Lucy, yes I enjoy the process :)
Very nice video Matt! It gives a nice perspective of your work behind the scenes and on location.
Thank you! I thought i'd try a different format to see how it was received.
A huge thanks for a very thorough and honest review with some great shots. For me my perfect “50” arrived from Robert White on Thursday, the Voigtlander 40mm F1.2 which is working out fabulously on my SL, particularly with its 0.5m close focus. I do think if I can be so bold as to suggest, you need to do a part 3 of the review and compare the Voigtlander 50 F1 with its super fast peers. All the best, Marcus
Thanks Marcus! I’m not sure I can keep it long enjoy to test against the Nocti f0.95 but I’ll put it on my todo list if the opportunity arises.
I'm so impressed with the results with these lenses, fab work Matt.
Cheers Rob! A nice lens so it wasn't difficult. :)
F1.2 or F1.0 these Voightlanders are deadly and gorgeous. Either lens should be a dream for any photographer. Love the Voights.
Ha thanks, yes nice lenses!
Excellent reviews and nice portrait shots with Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1 lens. Thanks!
Thank you!
You’re an amazing photographer, I love seeing your photos and bits of the shoot.
Thank you! Very kind. You see more of me shooting in some of my more recent videos.
Awesome video Matt, easily my favourite after the F5 video ;) Seriously though great experience working with you and lots of inspiration and knowledge gained, easily the best pictures I've made so far as well. Thanks again!
Ah thanks Thomas! Top man, and I’m
glad you are happy with your images.
Thanks a lot. Very useful info comparing this lens to nokton f1.2. This helps me to decide easier and save a lot of money
Happy to help!
Another honest and great review
Thanks David!
Great video Matt!
Thanks Shane!
great video, i liked both lenses , fantastic models, they all looked very relaxed and it shows in the photos....
Thanks Michael, yes relaxed models is more important than the cameras.
I bought one of these myself after watching your first video on it, and I couldn't be happier! Wonderful lens and stunning how little aberrations it produces wide open! I has however revealed that my rangefinder needs a little fine tuning :-)
Congrats! Yes a lovely lens. Agreed it will show any RF weakness. Mine was off too!
Great vid, some excellent models and images shown.Hell they are both great lenses.Thanx.
Thanks and yes!
Yea.. i got the 50 f1.2 and it's a dang beast. I might get the f1 as well for my SL. Sheesh it made the SL look like an absoulte tank!! I love it!
Congrats!! So nice on the SL
Amazing images. Informative review.
Cheers Greg!
Great comparison, was waiting for this...Voigtlander is on a roll, all their fast lenses are worth picking up.
Thanks. Yes! All great lenses.
Thank you very much .
Great . Voigtlander meets Leica .
Feb. 22nd 2022 Tue. 08:08 am
from Yokohama City Japan
Thanks!
Great job Matt.....This 50 f1 is going to be a great hit!
Agreed!
That shot at 3:40 is spectacular. Not just because the model is drop dead gorgeous, but the way the robe is draped, her hand pose, and especially the way her hair frames the shot on the left side. Bravo!
Thanks! Yes the hair did it got me 👍🏻
I really like this shot too. Nice work Matt. I would like to see this shoot in a studio, the kitchen cabinets etc. distract from the work.
@@silekiernanphotography thanks, I’m sure I’ll do so similar shots going forward. Stay tuned!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I'll be waiting!
Very happy with my f1 . I bought a used copy some time ago. Must have been only a few months old ! These latest Voit lenses seem to be much better built than my old CV40sc from 20 years ago.
Thanks Michael, yes Voigtlander lenses have come a long way!
Thank you Matt !! I was waiting for the review !!! so, because I'll use more for street photography the 1.2 looks more interesting ... thank you !! let me know when you are free in London so we can take a coffe !! cheers !!
Thanks Dino, can you contact me via @MrLeicaCom, cheers!
Another great video Matt. I think I'll keep my 50mm 1.2 for now.
Thanks, yes I think for M shooters especially the 1.2 is great.
Hmm. I think I'm going for the 50 1.0.
I have the Voigtlander 50APO that I generally keep on my Leica MA. I think I"m going for the 1.0 version for my M10M. That thing is a low light monster on its own, but with the 1.0, it likely could almost see in the dark.
I could readily use the attachable view finder too, which would help on those tough to get 1.0 shots.
Thanks for another great presentation Matt!!
CC
Thanks CC, yes a really nice lens!
Good testing
Thank you!
Another great review Matt. Both look like great Noctilux alternatives. I was really underwhelmed by the Nocti when balancing price against image quality, these looks like a great way to get similar results at a lot less cost.
Yes 100%, perhaps hold out for my TTArtisan 50mm f0.95 video.. another top performer for me (in real world use)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I’m not sure I would ever buy a TT Artisan lens for my Leica but I would definitely contemplate Voigtlander. :-)
Great video as usual! I just heard about these Meyer Optik Gorlitz lenses that have a lot of character. Do you have any experience with them?
Thanks! I don't but if I get them in the future I can test those too.
Although you are in a way connected with Voigtlander you still are able to give an honest opinion, not only between V lenses but also in comparison with Leica lenses and even the older Nikon/Canon or other brand lenses. (And they still like you hehehehe)
Way to go man. Enjoying watching all your older videos since a just found your channel. Interesting stuff and tempting choices.
Thanks RS, yes I always say it as it is. See my Heliar 50 1.5 video. (I did have to change the title as it was too negative!)
The samples showing the camera clearly show that the 50/1.2 has far better bokeh at f1.2 that the 50/1.0 does at f1.0! The f1.0 shows more business and the f1.2 shows more smoothness...That is a very counter intuitive result I know, given the relative apertures, but the samples show that is the case.
So the lens to get is the f1.2...Not just because it has better bokeh, but it because it has more contrast than the f1.0 too.
Thanks! I saw your note on FB too. Yes the f1.2 is a good performer for sure.
hey matt, great work again and very informative comparison. just a quick question, were you using a helicoid/close-up M-SL adapter? and would you recommend this? thanks a lot!
Hey Joe, thanks! I use the 7Artisan M-L close focus adapter a lot on the SL and yes I recommend it.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for the reply! Hopefully it solved that mile long min focus distance 😁
Matt, not sure you’ll see this since the video was released a while ago, but to me it almost seems like subject separation is more defined with the 50 1.2 in many cases. Did you find that to be the case and, if so, is it maybe because of the falloff differences in the transition zone? I want to pick up one of these lenses - and I’d like a 50mm that renders similarly to the CV 40 1.2.
Thanks, yes I can’t remember exactly so I can only go from my images. I’d get the 1.2 and a different fast lens for an arty look - TTA 0.95 etc.
Great review as always, one question remains for me though. Will you be buying it or sending it back, and if your are getting it, what would you think it replaces in your current collection?
It was only on loan as the distributor needs it to loan to others. I think my Nocti has more character but it would replace that if I could mention 1 lens. I have the Lux instead of the 1.2 so I don’t ‘NEED’ it currently.
Hi Matt, great video, perhaps one of your best - watched it twice! Even more so than the excellent quality of the lenses, what really struck me was the beautiful lighting in your shots (I particularly liked the most the ones with the umbrella/X60).
2 Questions:
1 - Do you think the result would have looked very different with flash+softboxes?
2 - For someone shooting Nikon, close range portraits like you usually do, do you have an opinion on the 58mm 1.4G? Particularly compared to the cheaper 1.4 AFD/G. I have the feeling you might prefer something from voigtlander ;)
Thanks in advance, keep up the great content, love this BTS style.
Cheers,
Henrique
Hi Henrique, thank you! Yes I think probably one of my better ones too as I slowly learn the game/ get more kit and learn how to edit/ get clips to include.
Look from the light is the same with flash. The mod is what gives the light look. But LED means can SEE the light before you shoot so you'll normally do better work/ pose them better. (Can use studio light too for the same or flash like AD200 I use). (With model light).
58mm 1.4 beats Nikon 50G for sure. I had and sold the 5014D (not great) 5018G (sharp but not interesting).
Reach out to me on MrLeica.com/zoom if you need more help
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt, great tips as always! Indeed I will consider the patreon membership, the BTS photoshoot content alone must be worth it, I think it's a great way to learn =)
You done 9 models in 3 days.
Test shots I mean...
Excellent.
Haha thanks
Nice woek as ever, missing ttartisan 50 in the shootout for good measure.
I will do a full review on that lens so stay tuned!
Lovely video matt! Thank you so much! How do you put the Voigtländer lenses on the Nikon FM2?
Thanks Alex, Voigtlander makes awesome glass for Nikon too. See my Voigtlander for Nikon video. (They are called SL lenses). I use 4 of them.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I just realized it probably was the 58 1.4 I saw. Somehow I thought it was a 50 1.2 haha. Thanks man! I appreciate it 🙂.
@@alexradsby ah yes, you can’t mount M glass sadly! (That’s what made me buy a Leica at the start). I couldn’t use my Nikon body with the lenses.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I also have the Nikon FM2. Just got the 50mm 1.4 ai-s for it. I'll see if it cures the itch for now. Though i can see myself buying a m3 or m6 at some point so I can share lenses with my m10 😅
@@alexradsby yes I did the same in reverse. Had Bessa R3A then wanted digital body for lenses! Then bought Leica film bodies next!
Have you ever used the Nikon 58 mm f/1.2 Noct on any 35 mm camera?
Sorry i've not John, not yet anyway.
Hi Matt, considering your deep knowledge of the 50s available for the m mount, what would be your first choice (leaving the noctilux out for its price)? Any of the cvs is more appealing to you than the lux?
Hi, the Lux still wins for sharp at f1.4. I love the size of the Nokton 1.5 v2 but it’s not sharp enough up close. 1.2 is a good all rounder.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hi again, Matt. I promise I'm watching all your videos and the content really worth it. Thanks for that. I finally got a 50 lux for my Leica M-A given that I will use the camera almost exclusively for portraits. The 35mm decision looks harder to me: the lux is crazy expensive and (for portraiture) I only see two options: the CV 35mm 1.2 v3 or the CV 35 ultron 1.7. Maybe the first is too soft at wider apertures for film, maybe the second will give an extra punch. Your take is always welcome.
Thanks, this was an interesting session. I really like the way the 50/1 obliterates out-of-focus areas; objectively there might not have been much difference vs. the 50/1.2, but I suspect I'd feel a bit more confidence that I would like the results if using the 50/1. Unfortunately both are out of bounds for me as I'm using a Pixii now and it doesn't tolerate lenses that are too fat!
Ha thanks JL, yes both great lenses.
I have the 1.2. I’ve looked at the 1.0 but all of a sudden I MUST HAVE IT
Haha sometimes it’s like that :)
can you do a model-shoot in the grounds of a stately home or castle
If I can get access yes.
I came across this page and have subscribed immediately. Firstly I'm not a portrait/ Model Photog as my background was event, concert and low light nightclub but now doing street photography but wish to expand into portrait and model. I have no real desire for the fastest autofocus body etc... Matter of fact I have a Nikon z 50 and I use my adapted Voigtlander 58mm |1.4 and 40mm| 2 both Nokton. I am wanting to purchase more Voitglander lenses and the 1.2 and 1.0 lenses intrigue me immensely. I am no longer a run and gun photographer thus I'm shooting manually and truly enjoying the photography experience as I did over 25 years ago! What do you recommend outside of what I already have. Eventually ill return to full frame offering but the z 50 truly is an underrated camera especially when putting on superior glass offerings.
Hi Robert, thanks very kind! (Sorry just catching up with all the comments). I would say get the cheaper 50mm 1.2 vs 1.0 as similar results. If you're on a crop body get the 35mm f1.2 v3. The 1.2 is my favourite lens on my APS-C Leica CL.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom i was thinking more full frame offering as my ultimate goal is full frame mirrorless, However a Leica is also on my radar but its not a necessity. Goal is Voigtlander full frame glass for my z50 and eventually Z8 or similar. For my
Fuji Xpro 3 I may get the 35mm/1.2 fuji mount.
@@bigboi36 I like the 28/2, 35/2, 50APO, 75/1.5
Outstanding Achievement, thanks for sharing
Thank you!
The 50mm f1, albeit 1/2 stop faster, looks like it exhibits stronger vignette and stronger glow even when stopped down to 1.2...thats a bit more challenging to fix in post. The F1.2 looks better overall.. better contrast wide open / less glow and less vignetting. F1 is tempting, but based on the comparison looks like im keeping my f1.2 :) Awesome review Matt
Thanks Christian!
Not everyone likes to shoot as close as you do. So, there’s definitely a difference for those people. Please put more thought into your conclusions. Other than that I enjoy your content very much. Keep it up 👍.
Thanks Julius, yes good point, will try to thanks!
I had the VM 1.2 and it wasn’t special. Seemed low contrast. Traded for a 50 Lux and couldn’t be happier.
Yes a Lux is the best if shooting any fast 50 wide open.
Fascinating , now the question is which one best for video F1.2 or F1
If money is no object get the f1 I think. (I will try to do a follow up video in a few months under different test conditions)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Waiting ...
@@arunr4103 👍🏻
Lovely work Matt, but hiring all those top models must have cost an arm and a leg and a few fingers.
Thanks! No I never pay money, I pay them with photos only
Ok I give up. No matter where you go, you surround yourself with these gorgeous models. Where do you find them? What do you say to them?? What's the procedure? Sorry for the funny questions :D.
I waste many hours looking forward them then have to fly to work with them. See my Patreon where I teach model photography!
On a side note you told that there is not much difference between the S5 and the SL 601 when it comes to image quality? Really?
Yes i'd say next to no difference for my portraits. I've not pixel peeped corners yet hence still haven't made that video but I will when I get time. SL is much nicer to use so I use that 95% but S5 images are fine.
....Hi Matt wie immer bei dir super Fotos!!! ---es muß nicht immer das Nokton von Leica sein....
thanks Adam!
Thanks for the great video! Unfortunately the Voigtlander 50mm f1.2 is not available for Nikon Z. Not sure, if I want to pay almost the double price for the Voigtlander 50mm f1.0 because I don't need that f1.0.
Can you use a Z-M adapter and use the VM 1.2?
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you. Yes, I think it would work, but of course without electrical contacts, metadata and some of the cool manual focus aids of the Nikon Zf.
@@stefan_beckerI think most of the focus aids work with non native glass? I'm interested in it to pair 40/1.2 and 75/1.5 VM's
@@garyking4032 It will work with lenses that have electronic contacts (like the Voigtlander native lenses or for Leica M lenses with the TT Artisan 6 bit adapter).
@@stefan_becker You can get eye auto-detect & confirmation/zoom without the need for electrical contacts, so it works on vintage/non native lenses.
Hello there! I would like to say that I like your videos a lot, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not use the white noise anymore… or at least tune it down…. it is extremely loud and terrifying on some devices….
Thanks. Ok I try to fix it in future thanks 👍🏻
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks a lot for your reply! Updates: after see your email, I ended up buying the f1.0 for my M10M. It is amazing for my photojournalism application. Thanks a lot for your review!
@@cloudhe6582 thanks no problem! Sounds a killer setup (and great low light ability!)
11 minutes of gorgeous, scantily-clad women, posed provocatively. Who cares about the lenses? They’re both fantastic anyway. One question: do yo need an assistant?
great review.
speaking was a little fast for me so I watched at 0.75 speed - made you seem like you had 2-3 pints - 0.85 was perfect! Otherwise great review!
Ha thanks Rob, I’m
Scared to pause in case people click off I think! I’ll get there. Hopefully latest ones are a little slower, or at least x0.9 speed!
With 35mm sensor?
Yes full frame or crop sensor.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 35mm is "full frame", I don't know why but I'd never like say full frame.
@@basukisugito8929 that’s ok, yes both are the same.
Hi you should be happy with the 50mm F1.2. That is all I have to say.
Thanks, yes both are nice!
The sound mixing was a bit shit in the beginning Matt. Way too loud
Sorry, still learning on the job (normally I talk to quiet so make everything louder)
My problem with really expensive glass is when there is little real world difference to budget glass. I have a Nikkor 50mm f2 AI which is incredible, and it cost £40. I also have a £4000 Zeiss Otus 55/1.4 which really IS a lot better. For something many times the price I MUST see a big difference. Not thousands to see a pixel-peeping marginal benefit.
Thanks Mark, yes agree. Some cheap lenses offer amazing value. Some expensive lenses give marginal gains.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The Nikkor 55mm f2.8 micro is superb!!!
Tessar
Tessar 50mm video will come :)
The loud start of your video made me deaf
Sorry! I talk quite so I max my volume to make me loud enough to hear but then I needed to reduce the volume on the sounds. Apologies.
thumbnail clickbait.
Thanks Henry, yes I thought I better show a model in the cover as the video is mostly models. That said I might change it as not very eye catching.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Don't change it, I like it. Great content btw.
@@henryzhang9915 ah thanks mate! I’m trying! I’m a photographer not a presenter so it’s a steep learning curve ha. Stay tuned, I’ll get better at it!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom For sure mate, your channel is already the go to place in terms of Leica lens I can assure you.
@@henryzhang9915 thanks!
Quite staggering tha You are. not able to seing and making up a strong mind about witch lens you prefere, you who had all it needs to see up close. I seem to see on my tiny smartphone that the f1.2 produces les vigneting and importantly smoother bokkeh (and I rely on You: "better contrasz". Sharpness and microcontrast, sun stars distortion. flare. coma, chromatic aberatiins, symetry, you all did not investgate). And you belief that anybody could be right to pick the f1 for reasons of often too dimm light ???? (I can't imagine any such reasoning to be soundly determinating between these two lenses. Simply title this : A film about me.
Thanks AR, thanks for spotting the difference. I just shared my experience with the lens.
Good testing
Thanks