I"ve Never Seen An NFL Team Run This Before....
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025
- This is a trick play that the LIons ran in their week 5 matchup against the Carolina Panthers. It's a direct snap to the back through the qb's legs for a run. I take a look at it with the All- 22 film and break down what I saw. I've never seen a NFL team run this trick play before.
Let me know what you think about this play.
#NFL #detroitlions #carolinapanthers
I want to thank everyone for their comments and likes. I didn't expect this video to go as crazy as it did. I am taking some of the feedback into account that has been given in the comments below.
You talk to much shut up and show the clip. Wtf
You talk to. Much. Will never listen again
Good eye. I would never have noticed that without your commentary 😅
There was actually a little more trickery to the play. On a couple occasions earlier in the game, Goff had to yell at Jamo to move, which was a setup for this. The signal for the hike was Goff yelling 'Jamo move!', which drove everyone's attention to Jamo thinking he was out of position again. A little Jedi mind trick from Ben Johnson.
Wow, that is incredibly devious.
Great call out!! That's how football works, set everything up.
Heard that coming from a mile away, but I didn’t see it.
Think it is not just Ben Johnson .They said last year Goff has a ton of input so ya that and the execution of these many trick plays is fun to watch and they got good at them pretty fast. Usually this is done by teams that have been together for some time not just a couple seasons. Go Lions pride!
Ben Johnson is just screwing with defensive coordinators minds...master class stuff.
The lions are biting kneecaps and messing with minds.
Yes they are
@@BiggienSportsNetwork Even though I don't watch live games anymore, but I still enjoy a good break down of games by people , such as your self.
They're a great team I will not discredit that. But who have they really played and will play the whole year besides seahawks
I’ve suffered as a Lion fan for years. Losing Billy Sims early to injury, Barry Sanders & Megatron to early retirement bc “it’s the Lions”, even a 5-0 playoff loss, not mentioning any of the countless plays Lions are humiliated on OR lose on the last play. Now, I’m going to enjoy each & every play this season.
PS: Awesome Play WITH Great Execution.
Don't forget the "Paper Lions" Movie with George Plimpton. Kinda set the decades of shame! Proud they got Goff and he found a home for life! Great kid even if he's from Cali!
Barry Sanders in my opinion was of the if not he best running back in football history, we will never know for sure and the lions used him up, to no avail. The guy was a master of changing direction at the last possible moment and it served him very well - when a back is are very difficult to bring down those finesse moves are defense killers. Brings to mind the likes of Gayle Sayers and Walter Payton. I'm enjoying the Lions.
You forget matt Stafford who went on to win a Superbowl after leaving y'all?
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So true. Milt Plum ring a bell?
@@bobfranke2347 First, I usually follow Penn State WRESTLERS since Cael Sanderson took over (8X NCAA Wrestling Champions!) and not their football players although I am a Joe Paterno fan (despite the scam) ... And second, 1935 was WAY before my time. So QB Plum is ancient to me.
You’re the first one that showed this in depth. Thanks brother.
No problem 👍
Thank YOU, Hulk Hogan.
The move Montgomery put on Burns was vicious. Dude thought he had him and got nothing but air. Montgomery has better moves than most people give him credit for.
The supreme ability of Frank Ragnow. One of the best centers in the league.
This Oline is really one of the best Detroit has ever had, and they added Glasgow.
It's gotta be the best o line they've ever had. Imagine Barry Sanders behind this O line.
@kylepicard2634 he wouldn't retired
@@whatisahandle_69He could probably still avg 4 ypc today behind these guys.
Outstanding analysis and video. Thx!
And go Lions!
I effing love Ben Johnson. I remember back when we had Scott Linehan and even though I'm no expert when it comes to football or anything close, I could tell that he was very predictable with the plays that he had based on how the defense reacted.
So to see the creativity of BJ is just so fun to watch in real time and with vids like this. As a Lions fan I'm so grateful because I have never expected to see a team so well put together and this is only the beginning.
The snap being high was a pretty big giveaway, but that could be fixed. Super cool play.
Thanks for the detailed analysis.
Best time ever to be a Lions fan. This team is very exciting to watch, they play all out, all the time, and they are winning too.
Kudos to Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes for their shared vision of how football is supposed to be played.
Fans love it, and I know the players love it too.
I just stumbled upon this video, wow, what a great "stumble/fumble" lol!! Love, loved it, this is GREAT, will be sharing this!! THANKS!! I watched this game and for some dumb reason, missed the dynamics of this play, so happy I got to see this!! And I subscribed!!
Perhaps not in the NFL or recently, but it wasn't so rare in earlier football, back when the names of the backs referred to their positions. The fullback was all the way -fully- back. the halfback was "halfway" closer to the line and the quarterback "halfway" closer again. the center might snap the ball to any of the backs on a play.
Yes, the ole single wing
heh...the more u know!
Same as a stack formation in Ultimate Frisbee. Classic.
Lions O.C. is on that Jedi mind tricks. Never seen this move before. Whole new different level. We need that Championship this year. Because the O.C. $ D.C. is gone!!!! After this season.
I'm a vIking fan and my team sucks ass so, pulling for your team this yr. It's a fun team to watch.
Why would they be gone after this season? Retiring or don't think front office will shell out? Or do they want their own HC gig?
Would have to imagine they'd be staying if they're this effective with the Lions, and turn them into potentially a championship team.
@tadaskay79 these two guys are on the spotlight. Most wanted. Especially the O.C. this guys has a lot of trick plays in his play book. There going to be in high demand.
@@tadaskay79Ben Johnson almost got a HC job last year. He went to at least 3 interviews.
We ran this play in high school in Michigan in the 80's, I was the center. The difference is that we ran a triple option and I hiked the ball to the full back. We almost exclusively used it in short yardage situations. I tried talking our coach into letting me snap it to a halfback to either side if the FB but that's where he drew the line. It's really not that difficult to snap it between the QB's legs, he just needs a wider stance than normal.
I love your old school way of explaining every detail. I fear some younger generation won't be able to follow you and understand but excellent video bro. Respect.
Thanks!! I used to coach, so I love doing this kind of stuff.
Goff later said the coaches stole this play from William & Mary.
Yeah I had seen William and Mary ran it. I thought maybe they got it from there. I kinda like it more with under center and the hand motions by Goff so that when the snap occurs the defense isn't as ready.
Isn't that were Sosdal played?
@@Pait728Yes and Sorsdal*
Mostly William but Mary was at the game as well😂🙃🤪
Nice job reviewing and analyzing this play! Enjoyed
Pretty freaking cool LIONS, Keep Rolling Guys 🤘
I have to laugh at all the people in FF who said that David Montgomery was not a good running back to have because he was inefficient. LOL. He never played with this offensive coordinator and behind this offensive line. Last year in Chicago he had 6 touchdowns. This year he has 6 in only 4 games. He's averaging 93 yards rushing a game. Last year he averaged 50 and his best year for Chicago was 70. He's currently on pace for a 1,500 yards rushing and 24 touchdowns season.
As a bears fan I’ve only ever seen him lose a yard like 3 times
If Decker didn't miss his block and kept his guy outside, it could have been a TD.
Yep, that’s the only thing about this play that didn’t go 100%. Lane collapsed - but still with a heck of an effort a 1st and goal.
WR #80? I don't know his name but a "Patty-Cake" tap is NOT a block.
Great breakdown of a great play! 💯🎙👍🏾The 🦁's OC Ben is as creative as they come with weapons galore! And we haven't really unleashed Gibbs & Jamo yet!! 🤣 #313GRIT
Thanks!! You really do have to enjoy the creativity that is going on.
I played center on my peewee football team in fifth grade and we ran this play.
The only problem, and you can kind of see it in this video, is that the ball tends to rise quite high after it passes through the QB's legs.
So, when I snapped it, the secret was out before the halfback caught the snap.
Awesome fast quick trick play
Its a play from william and mary- a fcs school that soresdal was drafted from.
probably while scouting him they saw it and thought hmmm.
Thats love man from a Detroit fan an native appreciate it an keep up the good work fam ✊🏿✊🏿
Appreciate it. My breakdowns won't always be Detroit, but if there is something they do that deserves to be talked about, I will talk about it.
Thank you for helping to understand the plays. Thanks for pointing & drawing lines for what's suppose to happen & what actually happens. It's interesting how the QB tries to throw of the defense line of thinking. I'm a Lions Fan.
You're welcome John. I used to coach, so I am trying to bring that aspect to these film breakdowns. Sometimes I may go over some stuff too much. But I want to point out some of the little things people might not notice going on during a play.
In HS (1963-65) we were a straight T team that had a play in which then center snapped directly through then QB's leg to the fullback that went more or less off tackle. But our center had to hold the ball differently and this usually gave away the play to the opposition. We had previously been a single-wing team. Out coach was from Wake Forest....
Shhhh! Don't give any "Tells" away! Some Defensive Pros used to say Tony Dorsett would put his hand in a stance when he was gonna get the ball, and they keyed off that. Obviously it didn't always work, but then you never know.
I saw this play in the late ‘50s and the ‘60s. Nobody has run it for decades so it looks new but really it’s decades old.
Best kind of recycling. Love seeing the old school moves come and surprise folks.
Excellent breakdown
Im just pleased Detriot is finally a contender again. They arent my team but I like what I see this year. They can be a play off team this year if they stay healthy.
Such a sweet play, borrowed from a play ran by William and Mary in CFB.
Yeah, William and Mary did it and then ran speed option off it. Which you know, may be the next step.
Absolutely hilarious, in the best possible sense!
Sooooo glad Ben came back!!!!! You hate to stop a mans opportunities. But Brad has gotta do something to keep him in Detroit.
Great analysis.
Thanks for breaking this play down so well! Subscribed!
Glad you liked it!! I used to coach football, so I enjoy looking at stuff like this.
Also, say Montgomery is stopped at the line, he can just lateral it back to Goff.
That doesn’t really help though unless there are no defenders over there to stop Goff from running. He wouldn’t be able to throw a pass because the linemen are downfield. It would have to be run with the intent to be a passing play so the linemen don’t release.
@@paulmayer8654but what if he throws it to a lineman? 🤔
I love when the beef cakes take it in to the end zone lol.
@@ericajoy5136 that lineman would have to report as eligible, but the ball can't be thrown if the regular linemen are more than a yard downfield. Jonah Jackson gets downfield immediately on this play.
Doesn't work without one of my favorite Ex Arkansas Razorbacks Frank Ragnow! I loved that Guy!
I love the safety shaking his head after the play my self.
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Ben Johnson is a genius! Go lions!!!
The other thing this play demonstrates is the answer to the question "Why don't NFL teams run trick plays as much as college teams?" Experience. On many college teams the defenders, caught flatfooted, would have taken some time to respond to the surprise snap. The Panthers, even if you could see them relax a bit, reacted instantly and came pretty close to stopping the run.
The lions are like a nfl skill level college team with the trickery they are playing with
Goff said "come here Jamo"
That was the verbal command to hike the ball.
I love razzle dazzle plays, I wish there were more of them
One of the advantages is the running back gets a "head start" time wise on the linebackers.
Rutgers ran a play this weekend where they got in a "Tush Push" position, and hiked the ball to the QB, and he immediately hiked the ball to the running back behind him, and since everyone in the defensive line was there stopping the tush push, the running back did a quick end around and scored! That was even more impressive. A "FAKE TUSH PUSH play!"
I think the Eagles have also added something new off the tush push. Gonna have to look at that as well.
That was a sweet razzle dazzle play.
Great breakdown but I'm not sure about that Adam Sandler voice at the end 😆 👉 5:23
Aside from the ball being snapped high and to the right of Montgomery, this was flawless execution from the Lions 🦁
The NFL doesn't often have trick plays, but this one is a dandy.🏈
Ben Johnson!!!!!!!
Well, who's say you can't teach an old dog ( Lion) new tricks?
Not anymore. 🦁🦁🦁🦁
Sweet
Fun explanation
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It was interesting hearing your breakdown & the different angles.
I was hoping you would let the complete play take place, without stopping it, at least once.
Either before, then tell us what we saw, or, at the end, after we knew what we were seeing.
Not sure if that is allowed on youtube.
Good job though.
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Thank you for the compliment I appreciate it. Showing the full play is allowed on RUclips, this just happened to be one of my earlier breakdowns and your feedback is something that others like you had mentioned about letting people see the full play after I walk through it all. Since that time I have done better at running the play fully for people to see it after I break it down.
I'm waiting for the Lions to bring back the single wing spinner. A beautiful play series from the 1940s.
Good for Detroit. They’ve been without a good team for so long. They have a coach who is passionate and wants his players to play for the city. And on top of it they seem to be having fun playing football.
Hard work from top to bottom is paying off.
1970 lions and the cowboys. I thought the score was 5 to 3(maybe wishful thinking).I started following the lion's that year because the giants were dreadful and I needed another team to root for (lions started 3 and 0 )little did I know that I was in for a world of hurt. Those early 70s teams were pretty good Greg Landry Charlie Sanders Altie Taylor Mike Lucci Lem Barney a few others that are lost to memory. I could go on and on remembering the past (Oh the pain) but I will live in the present GO Lions!! Also rooting for Dan Campbell (ex giant).
I’m just impressed in this guys drawing skills with a mouse
It's not the first time they've ever done a direct snap to a running back in the NFL. The Chicago Bears did with Walter Payton in either the late 70s or the early 80s. It's obviously very rare but it has happened before.
Good to know!! Like I said, I hadn't seen it before. But like what always happens in football, things that are old become new.
Didn't see that, awesome design
I seem to remember reading once that it's illegal for the center to snap the ball through the quarterback's legs to another player. So maybe Detroit got away with something?
Oklahoma used to run all kinds of direct snaps to just about everything. Had a play where the guard turned around and the QB handed him the ball and everyone on the team ran like it was an END run, everyone but the "hurt guard holding the ball" and then he turned around and ran the other sideline.
So maybe the NCAA changed that "Rule."
Always watch the TEXAS vs OKie shoot out. They save most of their trickery for that game (both teams)!
We used to do that play all the time playing streetball when I was about 10 years old.
Skip to 2:30
Oooooh what a wildcat play
Good job.
How about the receiver in the cfl that kicked the ball 2 yards for a first down .
The hardest offense to stop is one that ran the same formation every down.
Just curious where you were able to get sideline and ez view? When I coached in college football my first job was working with our EZ camera guy cutting the plays so we could mix them quickly after the game. I greatly prefer EZ when looking at an offense.
Apologies for not replying sooner. You are able to get the all-22 from the NFL with nfl.com/plus. It takes about a day after the game for it to show.
This is an example of why Ben Johnson is going to be a NFL head coach
Detroit Lions 🦁 FTW 🙌
I love it! Go Lions!
Imagine a variation of this play where the running back shovels a flea flicker to the QB while the left receiver runs a corner route, would that result in a wide open touchdown? 👀👀 Please let me know what you think
Quite possible, receiver sell blocking to safety then break to corner over the top.
Some times a great coordinator is just that, a great Coordinator. I know Ben will get a shot at being a head coach and I'm going to hate seeing him leave.......But just like Jim Schwarz, he figured out what his bread and butter was. Hoping Ben does to if it doesn't work.
A great breakdown. However, I am certain that, at least once in the 100+ year history of the NFL, a center has snapped the ball between the legs of the quarterback-although probably not intentionally.
It probably has happened, I've just never seen any of it before.
In 1974, and probably a bit in 1975, the Vikings did that routinely for their punting when the ball was over the 50 yard line. Tarkenton kept his hands down when he wasn't getting the snap, but from the other side of the line you couldn't tell if whether his hands were under center.
We have been running this in 10u football for years. It is very effective.
I thought if the QB was under center, you couldn’t do a direct snap to another player. Was this legal because Goff hadn’t settled under center yet?
There was a number of years in the NFL where that would've been ruled a false start, but they repealed that a good decade and a half ago.
Beautiful play and execution. An: Brian Burns just showed why he’s not getting 30 mil a year. He threw his shoulder and paid for it.
Yep. Certainly can so do a lot of things. Like QB circling back around and RB re-centering the ball to him. A fancy flea flicker. The ol' f-cubed wrinkle. RB then runs a swing route...cuz no one will think to guard him given all the chaos. TE though will be key. He needs to quickly do a cartwheel and then drop on all fours and bark wildly like a rabid dog. Unbridled brilliancy for all to enjoy. Well...except the opponent as they proceed to get absolutely wrecked. 😊
I won't be surprised to see this as a future 4th down try where we do the same but don't snap the ball. In hopes of getting the D to jump on Jamo go into motion.
A running back pitch back to the qb could be even more interesting with a qb that has wheels starting from the right hash...either hash going oppo.
As a Packer fan it pains me to admit this, but Ben Johnson is a fricken boss. Really hoping he takes a HC job far away from the NFC North.
When in High School we ran a variant running play.We were only allowed to practice this play after having come off a win the week before...it was a gift for previous performance.
We were only allowed to run it if we had a lead in a game by three scores with marginal time left on the clock in other words it was the perverbal nail in the coffin. Our QB would address the center and as we approached set up it was an "OK Ready Down Set" cadence but before Down Set right side wide out would act unsure by saying hey to QB who with this interruption would step away from center as to lean or step to right where as the half back would be offset to left side Set in back field and as the Defense is watching this unfold and
in a relaxed and unread
stance the ball is snapped to the half back as he sweeps to the left ...left side wide out and end take Care of blocking left side roll out
of sweep.....TD 😉 Did it wrk. YES ALWAYS coaches always pregame gave a heads up to Officials just to look for an be aware of special event.
i seem to remember the Greatest Show on Turf St Louis Rams ran something similar once. QB Warner started calling signals, then stopped. stood up from behind center and then began walking back towards the Rams bench. the defense relaxed, thinking a timeout was going to be called. the ball was then snapped to Marshall Faulk in the tail back position who then ran it in for a touchdown from the 12yard line. no one laid a hand on MF
Oh yeah, I have seen that play before. I still enjoy seeing this being done at the NFL level.
David Montgomery is the man! Forever true
Despite the hold by the center (totally blew his assignment), 95 *still* got to the runner to assist in the stop.
Good breakdown but have a suggestion. Maybe show the entire play, first... THEN do the breakdown. If you get right into hitting the pause button every millisecond before showing us what the play actually is, it makes it a little more difficult to know what exactly we are supposed to be looking out for. Otherwise, well done.
I'll keep this suggestion in mind. Sometimes my old coach mindset comes in while doing these. The pausing is something I would do to show initial steps to my players either of the opponent or themselves. But I can see how it's hard to follow.
I just wish the Lions would run Gibbs and Monty out of the old I formation. No ones seen it in years and those 2 guys in the backfield would give anyone more problems than they know what to do with. Skol Lions. I hope you win it all.
Good description of the play, however, looking at the defense we can see that they see the ball's location from the snap of the ball. The lineman, LBs and DBs are all looking at the RB. What made the play work was the blocking by the O-line. Goff could have handed the ball off and the play still would have worked.
Hard disagree, if you look at 3:34 with it paused on the EZ view, the O-line is coming out of stance cause ball has snapped. LB's and Safeties are looking at the receiver, you can see their heads turned.
Once the ball is snapped, hardly any positions have a good look at where it went, and in this case none of them may have.
When you were talking about variations to this, the QB under the center is ineligible, correct?
As I understand it, the rule is if he is under center receiving the snap, technically the hands never went under the center, and he wasn't receiving the snap. That is probably something that would need to be clarified with the refs if you're coming up with a variation.
If they do this play with Gibbs instead of Monty, it is a TD to the outside. His speeds gets him to the corner.
As a high school football coach in 2012, I wanted to try this play. but according to the rule book, it was illegal. The rule states that the ball has to be snapped to the person immediately behind the center. I'm assuming the rule has been changed or that this rule is different in the NFL than it is for high school.
There was never such a rule according to the set most high school games go under (Federation), and it's not illegal according to the set the *second* most play under either (NCAA). It *was* illegal in the NFL for a good number of years, so you have it backwards.
@@goodmaro Holy crap! You are correct. After searching through all of my football literature, I found my Official Rules of the NFL book (2008 edition) that I used to reference: Rule 7: Scrimmage, section 3, article 4,-4.
I don’t know what you mean, you’ve never seen the direct snap to the RB under the QB’s legs? I’ve seen it plenty of times, just never on purpose! 😂
Touché!!
Now that the Lions has some good players, they can pull off plays like this.
Lol Yep!! Single Wing offense…some teams in Michigan’s U.P. still run this offense minus the “Q.B.”
I’m a Rams fan but I’m happy for you know who be safe everyone
Da best!
I have been begging for someone to run this play, I think I drew this up when I was a kid haha
Couldn’t see it for the text on screen !!
Ben Johnson is a wizard.
End of sentence.
I really hope he wants to stay at least one more year.
You put a period there, you don’t have to actually say “end of sentence” afterwards