Satyrs are a problem
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Satyrs are an enormous problem, mainly because they keep drinking my shelves dry before I can. If you look up satyrs or Pan himself, there's a statue with a goat I didn't want to include, but that's their MO. Good ol... uh, public offenders. If you find one, put it down. Like they did with Pan.
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Well, “pan-ic” is actually derived from the god Pan; he could scream so hard that it scared the shit out of anyone who was nearby.
The scene is Percy Jackson Battle of the Labyrinth where Grover does exactly this is my favorite part of the series
why is the top comment the thing that I was gonna comment? I was feeling pretty smart until someone else beat me to it
And random unrelated fact word "pan" means Mr. So if you would like to say Mr. Pan you would say Pan Pan
Obviously, "Panic" comes from the shortened version of, "Pan?! Ick!" And then the person runs away in fear and disgust.
... I'll see myself out.
@zach415 As a PJO fanatic, I am positively surprised to see a fellow PJO reader out in the wild of a comment section... but, at the same time... that scene? Not when Percy gets claimed or when he turns into a guinea pig? Not when Percy dove (or, rather, tried to walk into but failed and just sorta flops) into The River Styx? Hell, not even Pan's death?
So the folks over at Overly Sarcastic Productions pointed out that Pan being dead was probably a mistake because someone overheard the cult of Zagreus.
Edit: it was Tamuz, not Zagreus. Thank you to who pointed that out.
Tamuz, not Zagreus. Not that there wasn't overlap, since the mythology had a vague divide between the mainstream folks who didn't wanna talk about all those death gods 'cause they're 3spooky5us, and the Orphic cults that were all *about* the spooky death gods, but the story is very specifically tied to Tamuz, a mortal who died and came back.
Yep! From what I’m aware, this guy probably heard a cult of Tammuz say “Tammuz the all great is dead” because Tammuz died and goes to the Underworld so they were probably celebrating that holiday. But the Cult of Zagreus misunderstood it as “Tammuz, Pan the great is dead” because Pan means “all” in Greek
@@parkerdixon-word6295 It's 2spooky4us
@@samuelrodriguez9801 The joke being that you increase the numbers when its extra spooky.
It's not a good joke, but it is the joke.
Was just coming down here to point out this little nugget! Hazzah!
"Satyrs are a Problem"
Meanwhile Priapus:
Zing.
Hey, that's where the medical term "priapism" comes from! DO NOT GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH THIS AT WORK
Satyrs are the dolphins of the fae
In addition to the actual fae dolphins in Monsters of the Multiverse.
I'm still waiting for the chance to play a "Dolphin Delighter" who is *way* too excited to explain to the party why they're called that.
It's ironic since Dionysus invented dolphins.
do satyrs have "struggle-snuggle" caves?
@@atomicanachronism8849 Is that something dolphins have?
Did new dolphin lore just drop that they have caves for their equivalent of sex on the beach?
@@parkerdixon-word6295 yeah, turns out dolphins are serial rapists
5:02
For those not in the know, that is not the final art for Narcissus. It's from Hades II, which is in early access and uses this robed figure as a stand-in for characters lacking art. I find it hilarious that he used this placeholder art for Narcissus XD
Honestly, I think it works really well for Narcissus that we don't see his face.
@@sagecolvard9644 Yeah, I thought it was intentional at first, even tho I was very confused as to why he had the same robes as the "new" Charon art haha
Got to love the irony of having a character who is famous for being unimaginable beutifual having a placeholder art. While Im sure his actual art will be great I kinda hope that they will keep him that way just because its funny.
@@user-hs1xb9tv6e On the one hand, I would loathe to miss out on another cute twink, on the other hand - Apollo.
So meh, I'd vote to keep the funny in as well
It makes sense though. He hides his face in such a way that only he can see it reflected, so no one else will bother him. Honestly I feel like it should stay.
I remember I had a group of satyrs party with a group of merchants who were transporting magic items. The satyrs got everyone drunk, and the magic items were trotted out to show the satyrs, who ended up stealing them when everyone else was out cold.
These included a table that could create hero's feast once a day, a rag that could clean anything, two belts of giant strength, a decanter of endless wine(mediocre quality), a harp of charming and Pipe's of Otto's irresistible dance.
This turned the trio into a nightmare for local caravans, allowing them to turn any gathering of people into a drunken party. Food caravans were being ransacked and bastard children were being born right and left. A bounty was placed on them by the magic item's owner, which brings the party into it. The satyrs won't kill the party if they fail, but they might end up without clothes and magic items.
In my party's case, they failed, and while they soothed their sore egos the satyrs took over a village and made it into a nightly party and converted the entire populous to the worship of Olidamara (god of wine). The party DID eventually kill them, but not before the village women were popping out Pipers(half satyrs).
I love how specifically pointed out mediocre quality of infinite wine lol
@@NertNeverlander I knew if I gave them endless good wine they'd just sit down in one place and farm it for gold.
@@professorsponge1554 lmao
To Satyrs, only blasphemy is sacred
Based
I had a satyr bard that like to “earn and burn” and lie his way to the top. I didn’t play into the “horny” but his compulsive lying made him hilarious. If we encountered an ol’ sailor then next chapter he took the characteristics of the sailor and had a whole new backstory
That's great! 😆
I played a "Jack of All Trades" (Brūs Camp-bell) who was a Ranger but also a bit of a Fighter & way too good at Stealth & picked up some extra casting & ...
Basically, every time someone did something cool, he was right there, like "Did you see that cool thing we did?"
The funny thing was, he really could do all kinds of stuff, had high saveDC, & lots of saving buffs, but like any glass cannon, once hit he would go down like a house of cards.
That campaign was overpowered, but oh man it was fun.
About the Pan dieing, some historians believe this is a misunderstanding the guy yelling that was talking about something else.
Yeah, "pan" meaning "all" was mistaken as "Pan" meaning this guy
i saw the title and just thought 'they are'.
Not enough puns 9/10
*pans
Pipe down
We have a female saytr barbarian sorta taking the helm of our Strixhaven party. We are exhausting for the faculty XD
Literally had a Satyr guide to an Elven city lead the party to crash a halfling bar mitzvah.
Satyr? I hardly know her
2:00 I will not stand for this George Carlin slander
Fun Fact! Myth-accurate Satyrs have perma-boners. The can even use it to serve goblets of wine according to one vase I've seen.
there has never been an ad more tailored to me
Which makes it all the more fun and shocking when you, as a DM, introduce a Satyr that's 'fun' only to be very evil and sadistic. Killing their own clan, being BBEG material, yet due to their nature and cunning charisma the Players don't suspect anything until it's too late. They can make not only good villains for comedy sake, but as a good twist villain for deeper stories.
I genuinely appreciate the history/language lesson in this. The puns and jokes were great too. Great that they could be combined.
Would you like to know more? Check out the origins of the word fascinate. Do that and then remember how often Spock said it. Enjoy.
On the contrary, Theros makes it possible to play a Satyr. Bards are perfect for this race, with the “Tavern Brawler” feat. Or if you want, build a “Drunken Master” Monk.
Cool jump rules nobody used before bg3 and now I'm desperately trying to make my players un-learn jump-as-bonus-action.
God I love harengons for the same reason. Mine have consistently been like those memes of spongebob where he looks like a mob boss. Like they're all grizzled combat vets.
You also could play them as a barbarian where the 'rage' is alcohol induced. Like *pounds a cold one* LET'S FREAKING GO
They also work great as trickery domain clerics, you can play them like Bugs Bunny.
Satyrs are amazing. They are among the SUPER powerful races like Firbolgs, Goliaths, and that sort of group! They are awesome.
As a PC race, they don't seem OP? None of their abilities really progress much, & it's not like they can fly or get innate casting etc... Advantage to save vs magic seems like the big headline; 35ft movement is nice too... The rest looks pretty meh though?
Sees the topic
Oh no
Basically my reaction 😂
Hold on. You decided to mention the etymological connection between Syrinx and syringe, but failed to mention that birds' voiceboxes are called syrinxes?
Now I want an NPC satyr named Lary with a bird informant named Syri.
"Hey Syri, are there any Giants nearby?"
[bird flies around]
'There are two Giants within 1 mile of your location.'
Pan didn't kill Echo. She was so in love with Narcissus that, after he starved to death staring at his own reflection in a pool, that she starved too because she refused to leave him.
Greek myths of a lot of different variations depending on time and region. It's possible for two very different versions of the same story to be "true"
I'm so glad someone else outside my friend group has mentioned interior crocodile alligator. Absolutely legendary
Nice to see a video on our goat legged friends
In all seriousness, any advice on how to run a somewhat accurate Satyr NPC without needing to heckin' roleplay attempted SA or similar would be appreciated. It is so much of their lore.
Just be the average Twitch simp
You can't. So don't. You like the aesthetic and nothing else. So just use that and call it something else. Your values are incompatible with anything historically based, so don't hurt yourself trying.
It's totally okay not to have the stomach to depict certain themes. You don't have to force yourself; just leave it to those of us who can.
@@Mare_Man Honestly, maybe. A universe where satyrs are immortal beings who spend their whole lives going to parties and striking out again and again and again. You'd have to get rid of the actual straight-up SA, but that's more FATAL's bag than D&D's anyways. They can still be charming and popular, just no one wants to fuck somebody whose bottom half's a goat. They're a race of immortal incels, never giving up, simping like mad, but all too used to failure.
You can lean more into their trickery aspects, and their tendency to be braggarts. Marsyas was flayed alive for challenging Appolo to a musical contest. In Dimension 20 Fantasy High they had an NPC barbarian whose, rage was tied to their religion, basically, wild spirits would take over her body, they did a live one-shot where for her 16th birthday she went on a spirit-induced rager. Very unserious campaign but I played a satyr cleric, whose scared flame took the form of a can of pabst blue ribbon.
Pan *allegedly* died. It’s a rumour that requires one of the deathless gods to have died, and therefore sounds more like a prank than a truth.
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"Satyrs are a problem" Bro must be an elf with racism like that
Fun lore fact you missed: when a Satyr portrays something or someone in a comedic context, they're being satyrical.
They will also worship just about any god at a whim because gods have holy days and festivals, and that means more parties.
Are use large groups of satyrs as random nighttime encounters. The satyrs dance and sing their way into the camp, and at first take random actions against each of the party members, including trying to kiss them, offering them drinks, hitting them with the club before dancing off, or yelling out of them drunkenly. If the party engages, then they have a big party. If the party attacks, a few of the satyrs fight them while the rest join together and sing and play there pan pipes in harmony, imposing one of the pan pipe affects at a much higher DC or animating trees and rocks like the spell animate objects. If you kill one of the satyrs while they are playing, the DC drops by one
Doing my man Pan so dirty in this one
*casts 12 instants and makes 12 1/1 faerie dragons with flying*
Like that artwork at the beginning
The Chip the ripper Segway was great 😂 I wasn't expecting it
Great video!
My Axe-chucking Satyr Fighter swapped out wine for energy drinks & chasing 🕳 for going for 🥇 as an aspiring athlete. He even has sponsors (which may or may not be an infernal MLM).
But correction: Pan's not dead. It was a mistranslation.
The Wild One roams still!
Also Syrinx is the word for a bird's voice box (they're weird like that). And some dinosaurs like Pinacosaurus have them too.
Yay new runesmith video
Cheers for the Mr. Lahey clip!
4:34 "simped" is not a word I would've chosen here
Personally I really like playing saytars and the way I like playing em is that there always seeking the peak moment they don't want to be happy they want to be euphoric they font get sad they get depressed and positive of or negative they seek these moments with an obsession and try to bring other people for the ride
Man, Runesmith really hates people with misophonia.
Yes I'm very happy now thank you!
I fully agree with the title - somehow all the most disruptive players I’ve been with were satyrs. Somehow they’ve all been just outrageously tone deaf to the way the rest of the party wanted to play.
So, they roleplayed perfectly. And being an anti-fun rule Nazi, that just didn't do it for you. How sad.
@@user-sy5rt1yo6t see that’s the thing. If it had just been roleplay shenanigans that’s one thing. I can deal with that. This was the players themselves causing disruptions “above the table.” Trying to steal spotlight during other players’ moments, cheating, not knowing their character sheet, chronic tardiness, throwing tantrums when called out on problem behavior.
So yeah, I’m the fun nazi if your fun is ruining everyone else’s game.
And while yes, these are not satyr exclusive traits, in my experience satyrs seem to attract the kind of player who will disrupt the game if they are told “no, we’re not all going to be memelords all day long, the rest of the table doesn’t want to.”
@@EJFreelancer you are what you hate.
@@EJFreelancer literally the entire point and draw of the character.
I like the idea some stories use, where Pan is assumed dead but is still living in hiding because of urbanization.
Can't really be a god of the wilds if the wilds are disappearing.
Especially in the Hades games
That Tate comparison is officially the one thing I have against playing a satyr. You nearly crushed a dream I didn't know I had until now
Consider that you allow others to dictate what you enjoy. Probably don't do that if you value your mental health. Or do. It doesn't matter either way to me.
Dude Chip the ripper rocks that one verse and he’s a legend
Pan is not the only Greek god that died, lmao.
Which others are there?
@@Zeppongola Ouranos, Kronos, Asclepios, Atlas (in a sense)... probably not an exhaustive list.
@@tarvoc746 Not sure which myths you're referring to, but AFAIK Ouranos got castrated and then just didn't really do much, rather than being killed. He was apparently present at the Gigantomachy too.
Kronos was locked in Tartarus, not killed, no?
I'm not sure Asclepius was considered a god in the myths in which he dies, at least before his death; he's described as the god of medicine, but also has a mortal mother, except for in some versions in which Apollo is his lone parent; some random redditors claim he was deified _after_ death, which wouldn't be surprising, but dunno if they have any real source for that.
Atlas is a weird one, because the myths that mention him being petrified (which is I assume what you're referring to) mention him as a Sheppard (or in Ovid's version as a king, but eh, this is Greek mythology, not Roman propaganda-hatefiction), but I _assume_ it's meant to be the titan, in which case that'd probably count
@@Zeppongola Tartaros is the Underworld, I'd argue being locked there is functionally the same as being dead. Also Ouranos died from the castration in some versions.
@@tarvoc746 IMO there's a difference between just relocating to the underworld and actually getting killed (I don't think immortality would mean anything for the former, hence Hades and Persephone being able to come and go, but presumably neither would die from getting stabbed), but to each their own.
Fairo about Ouranos then; there sure are a lot of variations on the myths. Wouldn't be too surprised if some didn't really ascribe any particular immortality other than longevity to them, or perhaps made it a "only gods can kill gods" dynamic, whereas others went with the "immortality can be sacrificed or transferred, but is otherwise absolute" one
I ran a Satyr monk, not because he was commited to a pursuit of purity, but because wine is cheaper to grow and ferment than it is to buy, and physical fitness came as a result, inadvertently becoming a follower of the goddess of harvest in the process.
Tito "wine-heel" Alektos, reluctant favored of Karametra.
3:39 All my homies love Hole. He's a real one
“They’re for me now.” XD
LOVE the trailer park boys reference RIP john dunsworth
this was extremely funny
its funny that i have the magic the gatering card that depics that elf playing harp that you love so much
"He's the most unique god in the Greek pantheon."
*laughs in Aphrodite*
damn I didn't realize I was a satyr according to that early description
0:25 wait, Taliesin, like Taliesin Jaffe? Dude's not even hiding his immortality anymore!
I didn’t hear “That’s it. That’s the video” and I was disappointed.
I have a satyr player who has embraced the satyr style of play. theyre also a paladin.
You party so hard they haters have no choice but to evict you from this mortal plane
Man that chip tha ripper line so underrated
Airport security, hah. I get it. I see what you did there. I understood the reference.
4:55 Most relatable joke in the video
Amazing
Me playing a Satyr in my current game.
"...oh."
Joke's on you, I am playing a satyr Bard in my first-ever post Honour mode modded Baldur's Gate 3 playthrough. Yes, it's bizarre.
Mr Smith, you should do Eldrazi next
6:12 "if you ever see a sleeping person next to a goatman" please get off the shrooms.
My man did George DIRTY, I dunno if I can like this.
I think an "Only Satyrs" party needs to be held
The most unique Greek god? Dionysus and Aphrodite would like to have a word with you.
Pan died because Zeus felt threatened by him.
This video is Pandemonium.
That pan is dead thing may have been a misunderstanding about another god Tammuz. His followers were hear saying Tammuz, the All Great is dead, and since All is Pan in Greek as well as a gods name, the people who hears it thought they were telling someone named Tammuz that the god Pan was dead.
4:20 i uad no idea Pandering had such a negative connotation. I just thought it mont sucking up to someone.
innuendo? Nah...in your endo!
Well...
This is a very different kind of satyr the one I'm playing.
She's called Cassiopeia and she died 10,000 years ago, long before the Calamity (CotN campaign)
She was brought back to life and is super fucking depressed about the loss of not only her wife, but her entire world.
She wants to die, but the person who brought her back won't let her stay dead, as the thing that killed her the first time is still a problem to be dealt with.
She has no party in her anymore
Sounds like a Midwest emo song.
Satyr Plays are not tragedies. Greek Comedy is a very specific genre, so even though Satyr Plays are comic, they couldn't be called comedies. Greek Tragedies were presented in competition as a trilogy + a satyr play (four plays total). The satyr play was the comic relief after a long day of heavy tragic catharsis. It was usually thematically linked to the tragic trilogy, but the chorus were always dressed as satyrs being lewd and goofy. Most often, it was a retelling of a myth but with satyrs and fart jokes. The only surviving satyr play is 'Cyclops' by Euripides, which retells the story from the Odyssey ('Nobody blinded me!'). The tragic trilogy that the play was linked to is lost. Btw, while you can read 'Cyclops' by Euripides today, I wouldn't recommend it. I recommend 'Medea' and 'Bacchae'. If you want real funny, read Aristophanes' plays, my favorites are 'Lysistrata' and 'The Frogs'.
"They are for me now"😂😂
As if we all ain't painfully isolated and single in these internet plagued times
Zagreus died too, in some re-tellings he's reborn but in others he just dies
Oh God I think I live with a satyr
Personally I actually really like Satyrs as villians to move away from evil wizard 9453. Watch Overly Sarcastic Productions video on how Dionysus (who diverged from Pan in worship) was once a god of madness and excess instead of just parties. So in my version of the Feawild Pan is the goatman party god who's endless rollicking across the wildlife like a natural disaster rather than fun and he is extremely capricious to deal with. Also a god of wild places. So you could go full send and have Pan be a villian who intends to level all of civilization in one apocalyptic super party.
Kinda weird they have MAGIC RESISTANCE then.
Chip da rippppeeeeeeer! Lol
2:16
Discord sound in background at 2:17
I don't cake eladrin, I never tip the dryad.
I am pretty sure Pan was Thracian god first, just like Dionisius which was Thracian as well and Aphrodite which is speculated to be a version of Mesopotamian Ishtar. Then Pan got his hairy behind appropriated, as a demigod or minor deity (most likely he and Dionisius were the same god for the Thracians) of sort and got destroyed by Appolo, just like Achelous, which is another demigod/minor deity (and quite literally and figuratively horny ) that got wasted by Heracles.
I flavored the Pied Piper as a Satyr >_>
I don't think this video had enough puns...
As a satyr player I can say the bottom left of page 267 of the MM is the funniest joke in 5e.
Pan isn't the only one who died.
What a pandemonium.
so is clockwork orange a satyr play?
Hehehe
"Satyrs are a problem" Welcome to greek mythology!
5:45 wasn't that caused by a guy overhearing a renactment of a myht from a boat and thinking it was the spirits when it was the distance distorting the words?
Also, Pan might just be Hermes.