How we install Permanent Bracing while Framing! Major Partnership Announcement
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2021
- I have received questions about how we install permanent bracing while framing so many time, I knew I needed to make a dedicated video about it. Remember tho, this is how we have designed our buildings and your results could vary based on location and local code. Please check with an engineer in your area to confirm what kind of permanent bracing needs to be done specifically to your area.
Also have a huge channel announcement! Paslode has agreed to support RR Buildings and step in as a partner for the year. Over my years as a tradesman I have used tons of Paslode nailers and always enjoyed them so it was a no brainer for me. They have just released (or out very very soon everywhere) a new XP framing nailer that I am using in this video and it doesn't get any much better when it comes to hose free nailers. I will be making a full review video about this nailer soon, so stay tuned.
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This is an awesome video. I have friends who started their build and a blizzard came through after they had the roof on without walls. Whole thing came down. I thought it may have been a material problem, but after watching this, I realized they didn’t have good bracing. This is incredibly helpful. Thank you for doing this video. Also thanks for the tips on the Paslode, I always thought it was dumb because of the need to constantly buy fuel. You made some great points that are causing me to reconsider.
With Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
I appreciate your effort to clearly explain the science. Not easy being so patient and still getting the job completed. Well done!
Hell ya! Now I understand just a little more about the process of how a truss works and all the framing it entails! Great detail brother
Watching you work, is never boring!
Another great video Kyle, been watching you and Greg for a few years, you guys are awesome!
Great info on bracing. Been using the Pasalode nailers for about 6 months. Love it because of light weight and no air hose
There’s always something to learn with RR building.
Yep, how to be a shill.
@@uglyashelful lol
Larry Haun, rest his soul, could have driven that 60 penny nail with three hits. 😎
Another great quality video. 👍
Yes with a steel hammer. I wonder what he would think of these titanium hammers.
Brother he did it in two
Lets face it guys, kyle cant swing a hammer
It’s great! Always watch you and learn! Love you in Belarus!
Another well built strong building on the way. Thanks.
Nice job guys! Always enjoy!
Impressive quality of detail and workmanship.
Anything RR buildings want to show me I’m grateful for, top stuff as usual 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I glad you have some money back after a lot of work. Keep safe. Great vid
well Kyle, really do enjoy watching the full builds though, really do but do imagine that all that shooting and editing does get old. This was an informative shoot and look forward to all of them, You and Greg rock!!!!
Glad to see u install them close to the endwall columns. They are also used to help disperse the wind load from the end wall.
Greg," is that a fuel cell in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"
Greg:
> both
* brings out 2 warm fuel cells and tosses one to Kyle
Next episode:
> guys, Twix is our new sponsor
😂
You're always so organized!
Thanks for the video Kyle. 👍😁
around 20 years ago I was reframing a gable end on my house. My bro in law loaned me his ancient SENCO framing nailer. It was so heavy I couldn't;'t roll it up to nail overhead with one hand. My neiigbor came over and brought his Paslode pneumatic nailer. I had never used one and was amazed it how much lighter it was. That's when I bought one. For the 60d nails, I would use my palm nailer. Yes they are loud. I have hearing protection.
I have a Paslode framing nailer. Love it.
I've always called those boards that the bottoms of the trusses are stiffened with a "rat run".
Thanks for the great explanation man, good work
Thanks for the video RR building
Awesome video! Explains why the binding plates are separating from the trusses. It really helped with understanding the bracing needed to repair a 30 year old build.
Also called “Bridging”. Keep up the content! Great work, guys.
Exactly what it's called in the Pre-engineered Steel Building Industry!
Here I was going to bust your chops on the nail gun and you spilled the beans on your own....Great job Kyle, your getting to be a mind reader.
I finally sold my last Paslode nailer, and I had 6. Nothing but a waste of time. All replaced with Milwaukee. They work in the cold, and don't need cleaned all the time. The Paslodes were a PITA.
He agrees with you, just don't tell his new sponsor!
With ya on that. Love my Milwaukee tools. They've never let me down
How old were your paslodes? Because the latest versions with the lithium batteries are extremely reliable.
Hey Kyle, love you guys and everything you do and stand for! I had an Amish builder build my pole structure last fall, they employ alot of your techniques but obviously don't carry quite the arsenal of tools you guys do. One thing I noticed on the angle bracing at the endwalls they attach an additional 2x6 perpendicular so you have basically an angle T support. Cheap stiffner idea I thought I would share, probably not neccesary but like you I'm next door in Iowa and this being the windy Midwest I sleep better at night LOL!
On what you call your kickers, I nail another board flat on top creating a "T". It locks the board from being able to spring side to side when a lot of force is pushing against the end walls. We catch a lot of wind here in Kansas so it's just another quick add for even more rigidity. I always look forward to your videos every week. Keep em coming
after the deracho we started adding joist hangers to them on the non gable truss. You are talking about a what I would call a stiffner board right? running the full length of the "kicker"
Happy that you got the sponsor . Hope you made a deal you're happy with .
Wish you would do detailed measurements videos with that calculator app. If we don’t know how to apply the math correctly in the app it does no good. Great work Kyle!
Enjoyed the show
Superb Greg . 👍
On the nail gun topic I'll say this......The technology that MetaboHPT and Milwaukee uses in their nailers(recirculating air), to me, is the better option for a couple of reasons, 1) It doesn't produce the fumes that come out of a Paslode(after spending my entire life either on my dad's or my own job sites I've breathed my fair share of noxious fumes from other trades) and 2) having a gas component adds one more thing I will have to swap out throughout the day for a total of three. Battery, gas, and clavos. And don't forget the daily maintenance those orange guns require to operate smoothly. I've got four of them in my garage right now that need a $150 spark unit and I don't plan on investing that much in them. On the other hand my Metabo 30° framing gun has no flaws that I've found, the 30° option shoots Paslode nails and with the steeper angle it reminds me of the very short headed Maxx SuperFramers which easily fit between 16" stud bays when toenailing. As for the weight "issue", there used to be a time not that long ago when a man was proud of the fact that he had to be strong to do his job, not everybody could fling an old HD77 skilsaw around all day while playing jump rope with his own cord AND hose, as well as those of his crew. These days we want everything lighter and dumber(this is a jab at tape measures with fractions on them). Great video, I realize it's a few years old but I am the son of a truss/lumber salesman and tool junky so the content of your video hit home. Thanks again, keep up the good work guys.
Got the same nailer, had it a while and has held up well.
Really can't believe you recommending the paslode now that you have a partnership you should go back and watch all your old reviews
Lol.. I came here for the same comment.. Good for him on getting a sponsor, but that is the nail in the coffin for me.. I liked that he bought the latest tools and shared his thoughts on it..
the paslode is by far the best cordless. Light, reliable, and powerful. The only negative is the fuel cell cost. We only use paslode cordless to frame whole buildings.
@@skliros9235 Tell that to EVERYONE that complains about their reliability.. Including the guy whose channel this is.. He said they were unreliable many times over the last few years... Paslode was probably getting crushed in sales since everyone went battery powered and they needed to sponsor people to help save the brand..
@@FJB2020 these paslode nailers have been out for probably 20 years, and have been updated many times along the way. Is it fair when someone complains that their 15 year old gun is not reliable? I use these almost every day, and all I can say is the last few versions of the paslode, have been very solid. Can fire 100k nails, with maybe just needing to do one cleaning.
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Thanks for the info 🙂
Cara não sei descrever o quanto gosto dos seus vídeos
São ótimos estou me esforçando cada dia mais para aprender a falar o inglês para aprender com vocês são muito bons na marcenaria
Ótimo vídeo
Luan aqui do Brasil
Useful knowledge thanks for sharing
Great video as always. I know it would be a hassle but I would love to see some non-machinery tips and tricks for non-professionals and cheapskates. Example: instead of renting/owning a skidsteer and boom pole set truss up but upside down and roll it up in position with with a long 2x4.
Very good video based on wall bracing
The wiggle in a scissor lift makes it fun.
Eventually, your gonna hate that Plasload and switch back.
Nah I ran paslode for years before social. Go back if you want in my Ig I had three framers on site
“Math never lies.” Agreed. Unfortunately, to some people 2+3 is 6, and they would try to justify it by saying, for small values of six and for larger values of 2 and 3. This happens to people who want facts and numbers to follow their rigid opinions instead of the other way around. Your skill level combined with great narrative ability is a real gift. Thank you
There's quite a few negative comments. But from someone who frames everyday, the paslode cannot be beat. The paslode will shoot hundreds of thousands of nails, with only needing an occasional cleaning. The only negative is the cost of the fuel cells. But it's still worth it to pay for fuel just for the convenience of cordless. I could not imagine trying to carry a heavy bulky Milwaukee nailer all day.
Facts
I hate the Milwaukee framer it's so bulky and heavy after handling a paslode for a while now I would never buy one
I love to hear that
I like the double X bracing
We do production framing so use mainly air nailers. But we also keep cordless nailers for punch out list, setting trusses, etc. we have owned all of them and are currently running Milwaukee’s because that is the battery platform we use. The Milwaukee by far has been the most disappointing. And you can’t work on them. The paslodes are the most dependable if you know how to use them. You have to fully in gage the nose,pull the trigger, and hold the trigger for a half second after it fires before releasing the trigger. I have taken nailers from guess that couldn’t get them to shoot and they would shoot every time for me. There down fall is the price of gas which is why we don’t use them much but define the most dependable and I have owned 12 to 15 of them.
I watched all of Kyle's videos for a few years now, and before partnership came by, opinion on gas powered nailers wasn't as positive))
Agreed, seems off putting
Yes. He was always somewhat negative of gas nailers
Shill. Can't take anything at face value anymore. Everyone is bought and sold....
I thought the same thing... bought a pastors when we built our first house, sold it as soon as the first house was finished... after it came back from warranty repair... lol
If it pays the bills then you gotta do what you gotta do
great vid again
I'd like to see a video on adding a shed roof to the side of an existing steel building. Pull side steel or build over it? Many thanks.
Paslode all day vs Battery powered nailers. You might think it’s not “too heavy”, once you start using it 40 hours a week, you’ll be thanking the Paslodes for being lighter! + it’s BEST for skewing nails!
Kyle,
Love the all the work done by you and Greg. Wish everyone in your industry paid that close of attention to detail. I have been watching your channel for 4 months now and will continue to watch it. Learning a lot. My wife and I are looking at building a barndominium in the next couple of years. I’ll be doing most of the work with help from friends. Both of us wish you and Greg would 1 travel to Ohio and 2 be able afford you guys! Lol. Keep it up and always find ways to improve.
I am seriously regretting not paying more attention in Trig everyday I'm framing lol.
We've always traced "kickers" (we call them jack braces) up in the trusses. Thus needing two people.
A guy last week pointed out we could trace them on the ground from the sidewall if we knew the height of the truss at that pole's position on the endwall.
What is faster math or tracing?? Probably depends on the person/crew lol.
Love using the "collective mind" that is youtube to increase efficiency day to day.
Thanks for the video!
Really appreciate you bigging up Paslode. You're are spot on about the weight of battery only nailers, and using one all day is punishing on your wrists. A regularly maintained Paslode gun will give near faultless service. Cheers.
Great Video Kyle! On the kickers are you only doing those on the first bay on each end or are you doing throughout the building?
i just watched a few weeks ago a finnish youtuber/builder called Timpurilta Talo on how to do basic maintenence on a paslode nailer and how it actually works. Unfortunately the video doesn't have subtitles for english but you can probably get the idea even if you understand the language atleast the cleaning part.
ALWAYS appreciate your content; but especially your humility to recognize and say that your way isn't the only way or the perfect way, but you explain in detail WHY you do it. Your detail and attention to design, durability, strength, etc. is so very much appreciated! I watch a TON of content on post-frame, and nobody does it better than you! Thank you for sharing your expertise and hard-learned lessons, and for being so transparent, detailed and honest!!! Great workmanship...
Very good
I just got my first paslode the 360Xi absolute quality machine..
Great video would like you to talk about how you do the math on your x bracing to figure the lengths and angles or maybe just point to a video you have made on that subject. Thanks Jason Ham
Nice paslode add rr buildings
Im a carpenter in Australia i use the paslode finish and framer and service the framer every 6000 nails otherwise it miss fires if you use it any longer then that only reason i haven't switched to battery is because they are to heavy using then on residential houses and climbing through the roof. And the reason i would move away from paslode is having to spend $25 to service every 2 boxes of nails and the fact you can buy 3-4 boxes of normal gun nails to one box of paslode nails with the gas which is $75-$80
I always really respected you for your honest reviews even when I disagreed. One thing I know for sure is that before the sponsorship you used the Hitachi and Milwaukee way more than your Paslode. I know you've said you can stand behind it but from earlier videos it was obvious it was not your favorite or even second favorite cordless gun. If I was offered a sponsorship I'd probably consider it pretty hard too but I did always like knowing you were honest.
Jacob, you can rest assured whether you trust to believe me or not, I was 100% honest again in this video.
Kyle,
In your defense..... I don’t agree with a lot of people criticizing you for switching to Paslode and calling you a sell out.
1. I don’t fault you for switching if you are getting good sponsorship.
2. Pretty much anytime you are recommending something you are clear that it is your personal opinion and based on your particular experience and may not be suitable for everybody else’s situation. In the same way you talk about the bracing you are using isn’t necessarily the only way or best way of doing it.
3. I am not a carpenter and have only used a Paslode a few times. I think one of the key points you wanted to make about having trouble free use with the Paslode is the importance of regular maintenance and cleaning.
From reading a lot of the plus and minus comments on the Paslode I think the reality of day to day use is that a lot of people may not be keeping on top of doing that maintenance and cleaning. If someone is the owner/operator of the tool I bet the maintenance is taken care of better compared to a larger contractor who has a bunch of guys using the tool and not caring about abusing it.
4. If for some reason you decide to switch away from Paslode in the future and go back to battery only tools .......... it will be sh%# show out here with comments again 😂
What’s the angle of the X bracing I missed that
After using the Hikoki nail gun, I can’t believe anyone would go back to gas. 100% you’ve been paid to say that.
Great video! Which rafter/stair/layout framing square (with adjustable stops) are you using to mark the cuts?
Martinez tools. Was out a few years ago (sadly not available anymore on their site) . There is an upcoming release of something new in the works, but still under development....... This was mentioned by Mark, back in February, upon me purchasing some tools and making an inquiry on that exact square.
Good Day.
I'm glad there's no termites in your country. In my tropical country the termites would look at all that soft pine and say "Yummy, dinner for the next three months". By that time, the whole building would be sawdust.
I use Paslode nailers both Framing and finish mainly because of the weight. The battery only versions are stupidly heavy. I wouldn't say that you don't have many problems with them though as in my experience of using them for many years they are generally a pain in the arse. Often in the shop for repair and always something playing up on them. on the newer ones there is a circuit board and a micro switch set up which like all things electronic is the first to go. In my experience the old ones were more reliable than the newer models. The ergonomics and the weight are the decider though. And much better than a hammer.
I like the chains
do you use(diagonal) metal strip bracing on the top surface of the roof trusses or purlins?We do (in New Zealand)
I use a paslode all the time , I have the finish nailer
Love your videos, very professional and informative! I am building a 30x40 x12 pole barn/shop soon i am curious if you have a video on installing the rim joists around the top of the walls? A lot of places i have found just nail the rim joists to the inside and outside of the posts . Is this proper in your opinion? Seems to me the posts should be notched and rim joist lies on the notch of the post...any info you are willing to share is very much appreciated!
Some people are bashing him about the endorsement, I say good for him. If Milwaukee was smart they would have stepped up to the plate first. Just be glad he doesn't charge us to watch is informative videos!!
We always nail a 18" 2*4 block on top of our our wind tie splices
We run them staggered like pulin laps
Weight of the tool is an advantage when working with it (i.e. the lighter the better) however doesn't the lighter weight cause more light-strike nail settings, or, cause the operator to use more downward force to compensate for the lighter weight in order to get the nail completely seated ? Just wondering.
Watch where you put free hand. Had a coworker use a paslode and was shooting back towards him like you did on the end of the building and it hit a soft spot in the wood and shot through the wood into his free hand. Hit exactly between the bone. 3 surgeries later and 5 years off work he is finally back to work. He is in pain still everyday and the whiskey helps him get through the pain in the off hours.
Yes just like the trus plan calls out
When you are installing the wind ties, do you have the spacing between the trusses marked or do you measure to ensure the trusses are evenly spaced?
The spacing is determined my the truss manufacture, it’s listed on the paperwork. On my build it’s ever 5ft
I, like you have every kind of nailer. Even a hammer LOL. The one I reach for every time is the Paslode. Only because of the weight. Yes I have to clean it regularly but I actually enjoy that so no issue. Never a miss fire on a clean gun. Just an opinion.
Yes please. I just bought my Paslode gun and I would like to know how to clean it and care for it
Wish that weather was here in NC
So nice to see the paslode gun working in cold weather. Not the norm in my experience!
It's a commercial 🤫
On the contrary a paslode nailer will work when your compressor nailer won’t. For reference watch “ the crazy framer”. He is in Canada and will frame is the coldest times of winter and verify my statement. But Kyle let it be known, you still need to work with a thawed gas cylinder.
@@iilijah I agree somewhat. But I’ve been in situations where I’m rotating fuel cylinders every twenty minutes and it’s a pain in the ass!
@@mikejackson6862 I agree. I’m just stating that in really cold weather your only other option is hand nailing. Or just waiting till it warms up to work.
Yeah keep a gas in your pocket to warm up or use the winter gas cartridges if you can get them
Do you mind commenting on how you would adapt your permanent bracing with a scissor truss or on a wall with a window? Thanks!
Just wondering why you don't have your materials and saw on the lift? I have a table saw miter saw and circular saw and drills because I use a lot of screws. Great videos. 👍
Around 6:30 I’ve tried punching nails through light gauge steel like this gusset plates, does it not flare out when doing that?
Any problem walking on the ties (say you are doing insulation, or electrical)? Should you have steel on first?
Understanding your wall corner cross bracing is overkill, you don't feel a need (OCD) to put additional nailer blocks between the inboard cross brace and the horizontals?
It's easier to nail to a nailer nailed to the girt (the horizontal board), than to toe-nail to the post.
Milwaukee, “Ok guys that’s a wrap with R&R he sold out”.
Now we know why Richard over at Precision Transmission was waiting for his Milwaukee sponsorship...
I have no problem with Kyle using the Pasload, but I remember hearing him complain about the thing hundreds of times. "Runs out of fuel at the most inopportune moment", "Has issues in the cold", "Has issues in the heat", "the cycle time is way too slow for what I need". Now it's "forget everything I've said"...Meh...Is what it is, he has always said he'll use the tools that do the job for what he needs, and sometimes it has been a Pasload, but it's VERY VERY rare...and one of his top complaints was "needing to pay for all these fuel cylinders".
@@WreckDiver99 Guessing that he isn't paying for those fuel cylinders anymore
How do you screw on your ridge cap with the 2x4 offset. I know there is not that much room to move the cap and you keep things way to straight to move something to make it look crooked. Thanks.
I think I'll move to your area next time I need a building. Just kidding but would if I could.
Kyle if you are installing ceiling steel wouldn't that provide most of the wind tie function? I'm pretty sure it would. I discussed this with my structural engineer from my garage when I installed plywood for storage on the bottom chord in certain locations in between the fans.
You deserve every sponsor bud! Youre a beast
Next week's video will be about his new pneumatic nailer and how much he missed hoses and compressors.
As always, solid stuff! Even with the Paslode plug built in! Haven't used any of their current generation stuff but they have always been one of the best on power nailers. Question; If you were doing something like the "Cabin in the Woods", how would say a window or a man door effect that X bracing? How would you modify it to accomodate it? "Asking for a friend" who hopes to do a pole built structure for a house. FR
We would move the x brace to a bay without a window
Can one do a standing seam roof, but use it down the sides for a complete standing seam building?
My Paslode experience was that it stop working after 5 weeks due to gunk buildup, plus this was the new one that takes different gas than the older versions and we were supplied by one type of nails and gas so there was always a shortage. But the worst of all is this delay and ever so often nothing at all when it supposed to fire.
I love my Milwaukee nailer, and it hits way harder than the Paslodes we get down here, and its a point of difference in the company I work for, and as you said, god above it is heavy. I only have 5Ah batteries and they're a fair weight, and I tried one with a 2Ah today that the rep had, and it balances up a little bit better but still heavier than the Hikoki. This does feel like a bit of a sellout given what you've said about the older Paslode nailers, but if it pays the bills then "that's the way she goes", and if its better than the current model Paslodes, then I might look at getting one for overhead work. Yeah, they are way lighter, yeah they feel way nicer in the hand, but its still gotta be able to sink a 3.5 inch galv slick through LVL J frame. Paslode does need to step up with their nails though, I can't use the 2.5 inch ring shank flooring nails through my Milwaukee. The first hint of anything slightly too hard and it just bends the nails right in half without hardly sinking them, whereas I can sink equivalent Delfast nails no problem
I'm not a carpenter and I live in hurricane country. Looking at your temporary "cross-chains", would it be good to install permanent "cross-cables" (with turnbuckles) when building a large pole barn near the Gulf coast?
Got me thinking... I wonder how much I'd need to change my mind. The total profit of 3 post frame buildings, maybe 5? It is like one of the tool-brands I try to avoid would reach out for me with an offer and a handful of gold.
Would I love them right away?
Could I recommend them all of a sudden?
Especially the "maintenance" comment hurt real bad. Taking care of tools is one thing, repetitive maintenance in order for something to work... is another cup of tea. A different beast, to say the least.