I said this in an older video, in blackjack. An ace can be a godly 11, or count as a measly 1. Just like that. Seraphina dropped from the highest to one of the lowest.
@Shawn Luo A joker mimics others abilities. In some games, it acts as a wild card. This reflects his ability to copy others abilities, and how he pretended to be a cripple but can morph into a god tier.
When everyone thinks John is a cripple at first he actually is u could say that keon crippled him not physically but mentally until Arlo pushed him over the edge that is
@@mavie9428 yeah arlo became a puppet bc of her aunt and the hiatchy. Arlo needs a john on his life and to get aesy from her aunt to become s better person
@@capedcod19 wait so you're saying people don't generally read the first sentence when reading comments? When ever I see a SPOILER warning I scroll down quickly. It ain't on me chief.
Maybe that was to throw us off since we always believed seraphina was the strongest so maybe the roles have switched and John could have gotten stronger during the time thanks for reading my rant have a nice day
I’m PRETTY sure that John can’t copy abilities that he can’t SEE or KEEP UP with. And sense Seraphina’s ability is TIME MANIPULATION, I’m pretty sure that she could beat him before he could copy her.
But her ability does have a physical effect. When see froze Elaine, we saw a loss of saturation in her character, plus sera had an incredible amount of strength. We could see this when she broke arlo’s barrier. She could just hit John but we all know John can take a hit and he would’ve been able to copy her aura. If he’s frozen, he can copy to rewind it and since he makes abilities better, he might be able to overcome sera’s freeze on him. but what would had even happen if two people had time manipulation. Sera could freeze John but would that mean that he can’t use his ability,
I really just want to see Seraphina and John talk now she knows that John is Joker and that he lied to her. However, I don't think it will be that simple. Either this confrontation is much further away than we thought or the resolution won't be what we want to see (mostly because it won't make for a good story).
Hmm. between pre-nerf Seraphina and current John... If you put them in the box and assume they just want to kill each other, along with john not copying any powers prior, then she would probably win in 1 move. However, im not sure if time stop can stop time stop. Like if John takes her power and uses it to un-freeze time and freeze her instead. We've seen that John can comprehend abilities really fast and adjust them and even buff( and combine them with other abilities) them to match his fighting style. So in that case, John could overpower Seraphina if given the chance to copy her ability and counter her. Assuming he already had abilities, then its really just a matter of how long John wants to fight.
In My Opinion John would destroy her faster than anyone else he's beaten,his been friends with. Her and has seen her ability and fighting tactics many times and had been on the receiving end of her power,so I believe just off that he would wipe the floor with her,she basically knows nothing of his abilities besides the royal takedown in EP 155
His ability has 1.5x multiplier if i remember correctly. That would make hims stronger and there for be able to freeze her. (We see something simular when Sera stops her mom). She could win assuming: - John cant use her ability while time is frozen - John gets one shoted But since John is pretty tanky and Sera has to start time to deal damage (sending people in to wall, ground etc) he would propably have enoug time to use her ability and from there its over. This fight realy depends on how the world actualy works. So unless we get any new game changer info, my money is on John.
Upon a second watch I suddenly notices that Isen is really in a horrible place with his True Neutral spot. There's only like one other person on the board who hasn't hurt him or caused him to be hurt. Poor guy.
@@Vit-Pokorny but he does worse things than they do. Litterally no one has done the over kill stuff john has. No one has put else has put someone in a hospital. John has. John is also the biggest hypocrite in the series. He isnt good nor evil. But hes bad to say the least.
I really feel sorry for / sympathize with John but at this rate I just can't picture him having a happy ending. I think its more likely that he'll end up kinda like Handsome Jack or Arthur Fleck from Joker or something.
Sera might be my favourite character. She’s just very well-written and likeable, I don’t find her strength to be something that’s pushed or too convenient, and her losing her powers helps us to see exactly how strong she really is internally
Im pretty sure that he is stronger than everyone because he copies abilaties so as long as he can copy the ability then he will win in a fight of power.
I really think that John is really more powerful than Seraphina is, We know that John has the same power level that Seraphina has before her ability loss, and that John can copy her ability and use it stronger that it is basically make John an invincible character
One thing I would like to point out is that John has only been going to welston for a year so there is no way John and Sera have been friends for two years.
Nooo..... John became friends with Claire during his last year of middle school. During his second year of high school, he was expelled. He had been taken in by the authorities for 3 months and doesn’t go back to a new school. That’s the missing year in his life that was not documented. After he had applied to Wellston, he restarted his second year. Therefore he’d been friends with sera for his second and third year.
We dont know what tier John is at the moment. He can be stronger or weaker than Sera but at the moment, John is most likely the strongest in the school as Sera lost her ability. Who knows, maybe she could have her abilities taken away permanently or it could come back
Huh, with the timing and how you explained events in the video. I can't help be think Sara's mother who's probably part of the authority planned that attack on sera after she rebelled against her to show her what happens when you lose your place in society and become a failure.
A top 10 list made by uruchan shows that sera is number one and unknown is number two, this is before Johns ability was revealed, but he might beat her in a fight since we don’t know his CURRENT level, he might be a 7.9 now for all we know, but even if he’s still a 7.0 he would have multiple abilities so I think the fight would be pretty even, especially since John is versed in combat, in fact he’s good enough to go against mid tiers without an ability. I’d say 50/50 but feel free to disagree with me.
Great series. I'm sad to see it go but glad I stuck it out til the end. I hope that you do an analysis again when season 2 reaches a midway point. Just more of an update to how characters may have shifted. I'll stick around to watch some more of your content. Maybe you'll introduce me to something new and exciting! Keep up the good work.
My favorite two characters are Cecile and sera, my home and school life is sera- expectations- always having to get perfect grades, work hard, do the best I can and always take for extra- but I couldn’t handle it and expressed to my parents they need to stop, Cecile is my schoo side I know so many people and I always know the news or the “tea”.
I hope shy covers jhon and sera once more, because after the newest episode a small flame of jhons character changing has now become a uncontrollable fire
I've always thought John was an 8 or 11. Back when he fought his entire class he was at a 7.4 or something, so I've always imagined him around Sera's level or far higher in the present. John vs Sera hype!
Tbh I think seraphina is more powerful than John, sure he can take powers and make them his own but how can he do that with her when she can go back before he does that, sure it would be hard to keep up with but it's possible
@@danielbatista8760 actually it is not confirmed John's ability was shown 2 years ago he was a 7 two years ago his rank is probably a 0 since he takes low tier abilities into high tier usually larger then 7 and we know with enough abilities his pretty op we also know John can beat those with abilities using his smarts
It not really possible seems like seraphina can stop only freeze people if she can take away his powers then problem is john can choose to freeze her after copying her ability also remember that john being level 7 was 2 years ago right now we dont know how high his abilities are and the royals were around his level yet he crushed them even with the power of friendship
@@maadtee6281 Remember that Rei said to Arlo before graduating that in high school is where their auras or power fluctuates the most so its entirely possible that John has surpassed sera plus John has more fighting experience with many different abilities
A basic way to determine a power level is to take all the numbers from there power wed(power,defence,healing,trick,speed) add them together and ad by five for mastery. Use a 0.1 scale 5 levels for mastery. 1 bad 5 perfect mastery. So the highest we have seen john is in his first fight with arlo. Which was an 8 based on our scale
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“The strong will forever stay at the top and the weak will always stay at the bottom”Johns is a cripple beats up half his class and becomes a GOD.seraphina became a cripple from a GODDESS.I don’t think that quote is accurate.
I just realize something, when he says that John and Seraphina both mirror each other. The thing that does not mirror with them yet is that Seraphina has broken out of what was holding her back in life, which is her mother. But John has not broken out of what is holding him back from life, which is his past.
1:23 I highly doubt John was taught that due to his dad being powerless and therefore unable to teach and provide an example as well as John being a late bloomer which I think plays in to John’s power rampage things not the sole reason but a part
Slight Spoiler Warning if you haven't read the first couple of chapters of season two: Based on how Johns ability works, and how he needs to do research on the abilities he copies it can only go so far with limited research because with characters like Blyke he works to be able to use his ability a lot like when John used the same ability so my theory is if people start to use John as a reference and work on strengthening their abilities then even a low tier has the potential to move up to mid or high tier status. And with that being said John could potential have more trouble down the line when it comes to one on one combat through abilities if they have a more similar structure to what John produces not to mention Johns chances of defeating his opponents are high not just because of his hand to hand experience but also his knowledge of multiple abilities which ties into how his ability can further evolve others like when we are first introduced to his ability to sorta combine abilities correct me if I am wrong. But I also believe that John also defeats his opponents due to how much more powerful his ability is to others in a term of speech say that more is more and how he uses it is effective.
I remember early in the comic it gave a top ten powerful people in school. Sera was number 1 and number 2 is a mystery but I think now number 2 is John.
Or there is another scenario where John did improve his ability and he just used for abilities for some reason because in the joker game John was able to read Serafina like a book
Looks like season 2 is the John redemption arc. Maybe he will face off against her after she gets her powers back or something? Could go both ways, she is the more likable character now and John looks like the bad guy atm.
For the John v Sera debate in my personal opinion John is most likely going to win and if you aren’t up to date on unOrdinary stop reading this anyway as I was saying in a recent chapter where Claire talks to sera about johns past she mentioned that John innovated on his ability that innovation was to copy more then 1 ability the chapter only says he was able to use 3 abilities and if this is true and John was a level 7 when he could use 3 what level could he be now with one extra ability and even if he’s not past seraphina You still have to factor in growth he’s had multiple years since his ability was checked and what doesn’t say he practiced more when he started using his ability again
I think he’s still a level seven because somewhere in the comic they figure out that he has a limit to go only to four abilities, so I think he still like around a level seven so if Sabrina get your power back and if it isn’t permanent then I think she could have a chance
shy chef: what happens to her we can all relate to. wait.. you guys lost your ability? (i know he did not mean it like that but i thought this was funny)
I'd argue that Seraphina is stronger than John. Yes, pit John against anyone with an ability, and he'll almost definitely win. John can copy the ability of another user and use a more powerful version of it. I just don't see a scenario where John loses a battle against another ability user. And although he isn't a master martial artist, he is definitely proficient at hand to hand combat, and could probably win against most people that don't have an ability. So as it stands, John would almost assuredly win in any fight against an individual with an ability, and probably win against those without. The only fight where the odds aren't overwhelmingly in John's favor, would be against cripples with the same or better proficiency in hand to hand combat. Seraphina on the other hand, pit her against anybody, and she'd probably win. There have been very few people with ability scores higher than her, and I mean very few. Now, yes, if John and Seraphina were to face off, she'd probably lose, as John would just use an amped up version of her ability. How could she possibly compete? But the issue I have found with ranking the strength of people whose ability is copying the abilities of others, is that they are only really a threat if there are abilities to copy. Take Peter Petrelli from the TV show Heroes. His original ability was being able to copy and stockpile the abilities of others. Incredibly overpowered, right? What if Peter lived in a world where he was the only person with an ability? He'd be normal, like everyone else. John's much the same way. Whereas if Seraphina existed in a world where she was the only one with an ability, she'd still dominate. That's my case for Seraphina being stronger than John.
Well, I guess it depends? A character analysis is more opinion than you would think, more just talking about what you see, however if you want to talk about webtoons, then a discussion channel would be fun and interesting, since it could be relatively open, talking about any webtoon you want to, which could lead into fun theories or opinions. Videos are about getting clips with an autoscroller and recording your voice. I added the little ShyChef Character because I thought it would be fun to add a little flair to my video. As for an audience, there's not a ton of webtoon videos, and a ton of webtoons that are interesting and popular that I have difficultly discussing, as long as you're into the topics you make videos on, and audience will find you.
At around 12:29 John, is infact weaker than Seraphina. Not as strong or stronger. John has a level, even though he will amp everything he copies, NOPE. NOT TRUE. HIS LEVEL EXISTS BECAUSE THATS WHAT HE AMPS THE ABILITIES TO! Take Tuesday for example, John copied Zekes ability and his diagram stat thing was scanned through my brain and ended up resulting in around a level 7 phase shift (Stats go from 1 to 10 aswell, taking the median number of those stats create a level.) So, he amps abilities to level 7, but what happens to levels higher than his? The ability he uses doesnt get amplified, but dampened. Since Seraphina has a lebel of 8, and John has a level of 7, John is actually weaker than Seraphina.
I said this in an older video, in blackjack. An ace can be a godly 11, or count as a measly 1. Just like that. Seraphina dropped from the highest to one of the lowest.
@Shawn Luo A joker mimics others abilities. In some games, it acts as a wild card. This reflects his ability to copy others abilities, and how he pretended to be a cripple but can morph into a god tier.
@@xkosmic2014 also his ability Is literally to copy other abilities
Woah thats amazing.
I thought it only went up to 10
@@tigerslikewater nope! Ace can switch to 11 or 1, but yes face cards (ie jack queen king) all count as ten
When everyone thinks John is a cripple at first he actually is u could say that keon crippled him not physically but mentally until Arlo pushed him over the edge that is
Fax
@@mavie9428 yeah arlo became a puppet bc of her aunt and the hiatchy. Arlo needs a john on his life and to get aesy from her aunt to become s better person
@@Pablo_Martin_aa Y A S
I was just rereading unordinary before I saw this
BigBoi I was just rereading it right now lmao
Jaja me too
I ready it because one of these got in to my recomended feed.
Potential Fast Pass Chapter spoilers:
John start blaming Seraphina on why people are attacking her. John is lost really.
Idread ? What chapter
@@komickid833 I think the 2nd to latest Fast Pass Chapter. I spent about all my Webtoon coins so I might buy more or just wait.
Wait what you serious damn his father needs to return quickly or seraphina sister needs to humble john
you didnt press enter enough for the comment to say read more so now you just spolied this for everyone good job next time re read what you post.
@@capedcod19 wait so you're saying people don't generally read the first sentence when reading comments? When ever I see a SPOILER warning I scroll down quickly. It ain't on me chief.
Sera was actually stronger, in one of the episodes, we can see sera as no.1 and an unknown identity as no.2, which we now know is John
Maybe that was to throw us off since we always believed seraphina was the strongest so maybe the roles have switched and John could have gotten stronger during the time thanks for reading my rant have a nice day
Can’t John copy sera’s skill?
Yes, however sera probably has/had more mastery over her ability or higher potential than John which put sera higher in ranks
I’m PRETTY sure that John can’t copy abilities that he can’t SEE or KEEP UP with. And sense Seraphina’s ability is TIME MANIPULATION, I’m pretty sure that she could beat him before he could copy her.
But her ability does have a physical effect. When see froze Elaine, we saw a loss of saturation in her character, plus sera had an incredible amount of strength. We could see this when she broke arlo’s barrier. She could just hit John but we all know John can take a hit and he would’ve been able to copy her aura. If he’s frozen, he can copy to rewind it and since he makes abilities better, he might be able to overcome sera’s freeze on him.
but what would had even happen if two people had time manipulation. Sera could freeze John but would that mean that he can’t use his ability,
I love her, she is my favorite character ❤️❤️ makes me sad how her ability hasn't came back yet 😒😭😠
Juan Cuevas me too 😭
It ain't comming back any time soon
@@jakubwinczewski100 no it's coming back very soon in just 1 or 3 more chapters
@@reslist_abdi7514 I said that 9 months ago, obviously there’s been plot progression
I really just want to see Seraphina and John talk now she knows that John is Joker and that he lied to her. However, I don't think it will be that simple. Either this confrontation is much further away than we thought or the resolution won't be what we want to see (mostly because it won't make for a good story).
Hmm. between pre-nerf Seraphina and current John...
If you put them in the box and assume they just want to kill each other, along with john not copying any powers prior, then she would probably win in 1 move.
However, im not sure if time stop can stop time stop. Like if John takes her power and uses it to un-freeze time and freeze her instead.
We've seen that John can comprehend abilities really fast and adjust them and even buff( and combine them with other abilities) them to match his fighting style. So in that case, John could overpower Seraphina if given the chance to copy her ability and counter her.
Assuming he already had abilities, then its really just a matter of how long John wants to fight.
In My Opinion John would destroy her faster than anyone else he's beaten,his been friends with. Her and has seen her ability and fighting tactics many times and had been on the receiving end of her power,so I believe just off that he would wipe the floor with her,she basically knows nothing of his abilities besides the royal takedown in EP 155
His ability has 1.5x multiplier if i remember correctly. That would make hims stronger and there for be able to freeze her.
(We see something simular when Sera stops her mom).
She could win assuming:
- John cant use her ability while time is frozen
- John gets one shoted
But since John is pretty tanky and Sera has to start time to deal damage (sending people in to wall, ground etc) he would propably have enoug time to use her ability and from there its over.
This fight realy depends on how the world actualy works. So unless we get any new game changer info, my money is on John.
Upon a second watch I suddenly notices that Isen is really in a horrible place with his True Neutral spot. There's only like one other person on the board who hasn't hurt him or caused him to be hurt. Poor guy.
he broke his wrist
Your analysis really points out the best part of Uruchan's writing.
True. the only issue im having with the writing is thet it paints John as a bad guy while he does the same thing as ALMOST ANY HIGH TIER
@@Vit-Pokorny but he does worse things than they do. Litterally no one has done the over kill stuff john has. No one has put else has put someone in a hospital. John has. John is also the biggest hypocrite in the series. He isnt good nor evil. But hes bad to say the least.
I want to hug Sera. She’s been through so much 😢
I really feel sorry for / sympathize with John but at this rate I just can't picture him having a happy ending. I think its more likely that he'll end up kinda like Handsome Jack or Arthur Fleck from Joker or something.
Sera might be my favourite character. She’s just very well-written and likeable, I don’t find her strength to be something that’s pushed or too convenient, and her losing her powers helps us to see exactly how strong she really is internally
Im pretty sure that he is stronger than everyone because he copies abilaties so as long as he can copy the ability then he will win in a fight of power.
I really think that John is really more powerful than Seraphina is, We know that John has the same power level that Seraphina has before her ability loss, and that John can copy her ability and use it stronger that it is basically make John an invincible character
One thing I would like to point out is that John has only been going to welston for a year so there is no way John and Sera have been friends for two years.
They have been friends for over 2 years
John was expelled form his middle school when he was in 7th grade
Nooo..... John became friends with Claire during his last year of middle school. During his second year of high school, he was expelled. He had been taken in by the authorities for 3 months and doesn’t go back to a new school. That’s the missing year in his life that was not documented. After he had applied to Wellston, he restarted his second year. Therefore he’d been friends with sera for his second and third year.
Yess yess YESSS
I was waiti g for this video to drop and so glad it came up on recommended
Either way, John is stronger because he can make Seraphina's strong ability, even stronger for himself
Seraphina is probably stronger than John
We dont know what tier John is at the moment. He can be stronger or weaker than Sera but at the moment, John is most likely the strongest in the school as Sera lost her ability. Who knows, maybe she could have her abilities taken away permanently or it could come back
Huh, with the timing and how you explained events in the video. I can't help be think Sara's mother who's probably part of the authority planned that attack on sera after she rebelled against her to show her what happens when you lose your place in society and become a failure.
A top 10 list made by uruchan shows that sera is number one and unknown is number two, this is before Johns ability was revealed, but he might beat her in a fight since we don’t know his CURRENT level, he might be a 7.9 now for all we know, but even if he’s still a 7.0 he would have multiple abilities so I think the fight would be pretty even, especially since John is versed in combat, in fact he’s good enough to go against mid tiers without an ability.
I’d say 50/50 but feel free to disagree with me.
Simply John needs seraphina and seraphina needs John
Seraphina was hurt so much...all those lies. i feel so bad for her
The villain is the hair gel ;-;
It's the hero
Love your channel bro
Great series. I'm sad to see it go but glad I stuck it out til the end. I hope that you do an analysis again when season 2 reaches a midway point. Just more of an update to how characters may have shifted. I'll stick around to watch some more of your content. Maybe you'll introduce me to something new and exciting! Keep up the good work.
UnOrdinary is still ongoing. I think it is absolutely fantastic. I went through all there is as of now in about four days.
Its just about conversation in episode 173....
This channel is going to go far
My favorite two characters are Cecile and sera, my home and school life is sera- expectations- always having to get perfect grades, work hard, do the best I can and always take for extra- but I couldn’t handle it and expressed to my parents they need to stop, Cecile is my schoo side I know so many people and I always know the news or the “tea”.
I really hope John goes back to normal but accepts his power and seraphina gets her ability back then they spar that would be an epic fight
I seriously think that John is more stronger than seraphina
Lol i just found out that doc's gf is sera's sister :0
I hope shy covers jhon and sera once more, because after the newest episode a small flame of jhons character changing has now become a uncontrollable fire
I've always thought John was an 8 or 11. Back when he fought his entire class he was at a 7.4 or something, so I've always imagined him around Sera's level or far higher in the present.
John vs Sera hype!
He’s most likely a 7.9 to 8.2 most likely. Nothing higher then 8.3 though
I loved your series you did amazing! Keep it up
Sera is queeen
I'd beat someone up for some triple choco cake lol
I love this I love Serafina
crippled CRIPPLED JOHN IS ONE THE MOST OP CHARACTER ON WEBTOON
No, Tuesday is
No yadseut
Tbh I think seraphina is more powerful than John, sure he can take powers and make them his own but how can he do that with her when she can go back before he does that, sure it would be hard to keep up with but it's possible
Seraphina is more powerful its already confirm. Honestly I don't think john is able to copy Seraphina ability
@@danielbatista8760 actually it is not confirmed John's ability was shown 2 years ago he was a 7 two years ago his rank is probably a 0 since he takes low tier abilities into high tier usually larger then 7 and we know with enough abilities his pretty op we also know John can beat those with abilities using his smarts
It not really possible seems like seraphina can stop only freeze people if she can take away his powers then problem is john can choose to freeze her after copying her ability also remember that john being level 7 was 2 years ago right now we dont know how high his abilities are and the royals were around his level yet he crushed them even with the power of friendship
@@maadtee6281 Remember that Rei said to Arlo before graduating that in high school is where their auras or power fluctuates the most so its entirely possible that John has surpassed sera plus John has more fighting experience with many different abilities
@ScepticalCynic I'll say 7.8
Man you are awesome I’ve been wanting a channel that discusses unordinary
I love this
I love this series
A basic way to determine a power level is to take all the numbers from there power wed(power,defence,healing,trick,speed) add them together and ad by five for mastery. Use a 0.1 scale 5 levels for mastery. 1 bad 5 perfect mastery. So the highest we have seen john is in his first fight with arlo. Which was an 8 based on our scale
Tbh I hate yet love her cause she is like everyone in some regard yet not at the sametime
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I would love to see Seraphina getting her powers going against the john just to see their personalities colide after their dramatic changes.
Please do more unordinary~! 🥰
“The strong will forever stay at the top and the weak will always stay at the bottom”Johns is a cripple beats up half his class and becomes a GOD.seraphina became a cripple from a GODDESS.I don’t think that quote is accurate.
John took out all of the royals but Sarahpena cant take on all the royals
He is stronger because of his ability
i hate the people who think just because john is the main character and he’s a god-tier, that he’s the strongest.
John is probably a 9 because when he was level 7 he could control 3 because 7 divided by 2= 3r 1 and when he was 3 it was 3 divided by 2= 2 R 1
I'm still mad about you mispronouncing Blake's name. a Edit: I blame shy chef for my mess up on Blykes name
Syuen Ngiu you didn’t understand the joke
Osama Altwaijri no he said that before I made the edit
I just realize something, when he says that John and Seraphina both mirror each other. The thing that does not mirror with them yet is that Seraphina has broken out of what was holding her back in life, which is her mother. But John has not broken out of what is holding him back from life, which is his past.
John is stronger than everyone / John wick with super powers
Perfection wasn’t a goal for Seraphina, it was just the status quo
1:23 I highly doubt John was taught that due to his dad being powerless and therefore unable to teach and provide an example as well as John being a late bloomer which I think plays in to John’s power rampage things not the sole reason but a part
Slight Spoiler Warning if you haven't read the first couple of chapters of season two: Based on how Johns ability works, and how he needs to do research on the abilities he copies it can only go so far with limited research because with characters like Blyke he works to be able to use his ability a lot like when John used the same ability so my theory is if people start to use John as a reference and work on strengthening their abilities then even a low tier has the potential to move up to mid or high tier status. And with that being said John could potential have more trouble down the line when it comes to one on one combat through abilities if they have a more similar structure to what John produces not to mention Johns chances of defeating his opponents are high not just because of his hand to hand experience but also his knowledge of multiple abilities which ties into how his ability can further evolve others like when we are first introduced to his ability to sorta combine abilities correct me if I am wrong. But I also believe that John also defeats his opponents due to how much more powerful his ability is to others in a term of speech say that more is more and how he uses it is effective.
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sera is the best female character in webtoon and there is no contest
Ah, At last. The character chart is finished! :D
What’s her place on the chart?
Idk why y’all discussing to who is better, it’s obviously John bc he’s Joker, Joker is the strongest out of the deck
King is stronger than the Queen, but Sera was stronger than Asslo when she was the queen.
I think John would win because unordinary is based on a deck of cards so I think joker beats ace so I’m pretty sure John would win
I remember early in the comic it gave a top ten powerful people in school. Sera was number 1 and number 2 is a mystery but I think now number 2 is John.
I think John is more powerful than seraphina but that’s just my theory.
@@asdfghjklkjhgfdsaqazwsxefh4549 John is a 7 sera is/was a 8 but maybe that's changeed
Or there is another scenario where John did improve his ability and he just used for abilities for some reason because in the joker game John was able to read Serafina like a book
Man please don’t leave unordinary your the only good youtuber for unordinary
So after reading more of season 2 does anyone think the story might shift from john to sera? Like is it possible seraphina is the true protagonist?
Looks like season 2 is the John redemption arc. Maybe he will face off against her after she gets her powers back or something? Could go both ways, she is the more likable character now and John looks like the bad guy atm.
For the John v Sera debate in my personal opinion John is most likely going to win and if you aren’t up to date on unOrdinary stop reading this anyway as I was saying in a recent chapter where Claire talks to sera about johns past she mentioned that John innovated on his ability that innovation was to copy more then 1 ability the chapter only says he was able to use 3 abilities and if this is true and John was a level 7 when he could use 3 what level could he be now with one extra ability and even if he’s not past seraphina You still have to factor in growth he’s had multiple years since his ability was checked and what doesn’t say he practiced more when he started using his ability again
Why did t took me so long to discover this webtoon
I think he’s still a level seven because somewhere in the comic they figure out that he has a limit to go only to four abilities, so I think he still like around a level seven so if Sabrina get your power back and if it isn’t permanent then I think she could have a chance
Nope it changes according to the ability he copies
shy chef: what happens to her we can all relate to. wait.. you guys lost your ability? (i know he did not mean it like that but i thought this was funny)
One who burns huh?
I'm supposing that was a coincidence considering her power is time manipulation.
A personal theory of mine it that Seraphina’s mom is the one that hired those people to kidnap Sera and take her abilities to teach her a lesson.
seras ability is actually stronger than john she can freeze john before he can even copy her ability
I'd argue that Seraphina is stronger than John. Yes, pit John against anyone with an ability, and he'll almost definitely win. John can copy the ability of another user and use a more powerful version of it. I just don't see a scenario where John loses a battle against another ability user. And although he isn't a master martial artist, he is definitely proficient at hand to hand combat, and could probably win against most people that don't have an ability. So as it stands, John would almost assuredly win in any fight against an individual with an ability, and probably win against those without. The only fight where the odds aren't overwhelmingly in John's favor, would be against cripples with the same or better proficiency in hand to hand combat. Seraphina on the other hand, pit her against anybody, and she'd probably win. There have been very few people with ability scores higher than her, and I mean very few. Now, yes, if John and Seraphina were to face off, she'd probably lose, as John would just use an amped up version of her ability. How could she possibly compete? But the issue I have found with ranking the strength of people whose ability is copying the abilities of others, is that they are only really a threat if there are abilities to copy. Take Peter Petrelli from the TV show Heroes. His original ability was being able to copy and stockpile the abilities of others. Incredibly overpowered, right? What if Peter lived in a world where he was the only person with an ability? He'd be normal, like everyone else. John's much the same way. Whereas if Seraphina existed in a world where she was the only one with an ability, she'd still dominate. That's my case for Seraphina being stronger than John.
The tiers are based on cards. Ace is both a 1 and a 11. From what i understand it's the lowest rank of royal
Also John is stronger he can just copy her ability and beat her up if he wanted to
You know 90% of the problems in the story could’ve been avoided if people just came free and talked about it
thats the whole point of the webtoon. people with mental issue hardly ever speak about it thats why most of them breaks.
Please tell me you read berserk
You should do No Scope!
15 hundred? MORE LIKE 6.4K
So seraphina's powers are non dramatic and less badass version of za warudo
Seraphina study hard to become a doctor or a lawyer. Hence A+.
Edit2: Season 2 is back!
I feel like seria would be the one that will make John stop
You should check out Blood ink. It’s pretty decent
john is a 9.7 im pretty sure and sera is 8.4
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WHAT THAT EP I DIDN'T SEE IT
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It's an episode after he fights Arlo, Ventus and Mielie. Ep 57
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How do u make this kind of video I wanna start
Well, I guess it depends? A character analysis is more opinion than you would think, more just talking about what you see, however if you want to talk about webtoons, then a discussion channel would be fun and interesting, since it could be relatively open, talking about any webtoon you want to, which could lead into fun theories or opinions. Videos are about getting clips with an autoscroller and recording your voice. I added the little ShyChef Character because I thought it would be fun to add a little flair to my video. As for an audience, there's not a ton of webtoon videos, and a ton of webtoons that are interesting and popular that I have difficultly discussing, as long as you're into the topics you make videos on, and audience will find you.
@@ThatShyChef ty I'ma see how to add a auto scroller and do this I appreciate your reply time your actual reply I honestly find it helpful.💯😁🔥
i dont think that john can even copy sera ability because its non physical or smth like that what isen said
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John, is infact weaker than Seraphina. Not as strong or stronger. John has a level, even though he will amp everything he copies, NOPE. NOT TRUE. HIS LEVEL EXISTS BECAUSE THATS WHAT HE AMPS THE ABILITIES TO! Take Tuesday for example, John copied Zekes ability and his diagram stat thing was scanned through my brain and ended up resulting in around a level 7 phase shift (Stats go from 1 to 10 aswell, taking the median number of those stats create a level.) So, he amps abilities to level 7, but what happens to levels higher than his? The ability he uses doesnt get amplified, but dampened. Since Seraphina has a lebel of 8, and John has a level of 7, John is actually weaker than Seraphina.
There is now evidence he cannot copy abilities of stronger than his level. This means John is weaker than I thought before.
Ok I was wrong about my previous comment, he’s actually STRONGER than I thought he was. I thought he was 7.0 he is 7.5 lol
Plz make one about Rei
Are you gonna review season 2 of UnOrdinary?
1st Place
John is so much stronger.
Pls do radiant videos plsss
Shy chef. DO LORE Olympus
What should I do?
Shy Chef yes cause it’s pretty cool
Yes, Lore Olympus is pretty cool, what topic should I cover on Lore Olympus?
Shy Chef hmmmm. The chart thing but idk
Shy Chef people in the comment section will definitely know
So are you gonna do another one for season 2?
That’s the plan
Shy Chef YES!!!
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You totally ignored how she beat the crap out of John, selective memory?
Sorry what, that's literally one of the first things he mentions when talking about Sera's story.
Make a video about FFF-Class Trashero !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!