I dont know what context it would have to be but id kill to have DeLa and Jinkx on the same season. Paired in an acting challenge, gold. Snatch Game, unreal. God I want it so bad
An AS1 season done right would be a perfect context. Pairings that trully work well together and whose members go into the season knowing the pairing sistem and who their partner would be. In this context, a Jinkx/Dela partnership would not only be a no-brainer choice, but I trully think it would be difficult to find another pairing that could beat them
But Jujubee has only one challenge win so shouldn’t she have been cut for not winning two challenges??? No shade I love your channel and content so much.
I'm absolutely gutted that we never got the chance to see Chi Chi on All Stars as a lip sync assassin. Same goes for Sahara Davenport. They both would've SLAYED. 😔
@@jakubpuchalski2583 edro is talking about chi chi coming back to All Stars as a lip sync assassin, NOT a contestant. And Chi Chi WOULD have killed as a lip sync assassin.
@@jakubpuchalski2583 All good, I agree with the sentiment about All-Stars more generally. I think Chi Chi even said that she felt she wasn’t good at playing the All Stars game and does better at like traditional drag pageants
Alyssa Edwards is definitely one of the legends. I mean, you can see traces of her even on drag race seasons that came after her..from her appearances on future seasons,references, and catch phrases. That is a legend. Never forgotten, emulated, talked about!
16:53 I'd *love* to see a video about queens turning around their fan reception. Whether that's for better, like Eureka, Silky, and Rajah, or worse, like Cracker and Jan. It's such an interesting topic to delve into because fan reception is a very fickle beast.
@@Elliot18 cast: Juice Boxx Rock M Sakura Dahlia Sin Yuhua Hamasaki Roem Macarena Drag Vulcano VICTORIA SCONE Veronica Green Mimi Imfurst India Ferrah April Carrion 12th: Mimi 11th: India 10th: Roem 9th: Macarena 8th: April Carrion 7th: Drag Vulcano 6th: Yuhua Hamasaki 5th: Veronica Green 4th: Dahlia Sin 3rd: Juice Boxx 2nd: Rock M Sakura 1st: Victoria Scone
I agree with the initial criteria of having only queens who competed on all stars, but i also feel that queens like Brook lynn hytes and maybe Willam are more suited for legends rather than normal all stars
yeah only in this hypothetical scenario though because neither will ever compete ever again. Willam for obvious reasons and Brook has said in interviews that now being a judge it doesn't make sense for her to come and compete. Don't know how Pangina having just competed on UKvTW would change Brook's mind though, maybe!
I guess this video was before the winners version of all stars, but even still… how would a legend season without any past DR winners make sense? That’s leaving out a whole bunch of legendary fan favorites
I feel like “LEGENDS” would be the perfect approach for All Stars 10. 9 seasons of all stars in and now we have gathered the best of those crownless queens to compete to prove themselves above other All-Stars: a legend.
Fun fact: Katya has lost the most lipsyncs out of any Drag Race contestant ever at five. So, when you said lipsync wins would be a factor in competing, I got worried for her lol
Both of her lip syncs against Alaska were rigged so I never even count those. Her only fair lip sync losses, in my eyes, were against Kennedy Davenport in S7 and Detox in AS2.
Fun fact. Jimbo know holds that title with 6/7 lip sync losses. 1 from Canada, 2 from UK Vs the world and 3 from AS8. With her one win also being in AS8
it's criminal not to have Tatianna on a legends season, specially when queens such as silky are in... recency should be the first filter, very very very few queens after season 9 have had enough time and exposure to qualify as legends in the same way someone like Kennedy or Raven have and id probably disqualify everyone from all stars 6 just cuz they already came back so recently..
Agreed. Silky I think should be on another All Stars season first. Rajah was great but I can’t really think of anything specific that makes her iconic. Out of the 3 I’d keep TKB.
Totally agree. And besides, if anyone from the more recent season qualifies as a legend in the competition it is Eureka and I’m not even a huge Eureka fan.
Even though I LOVED AS6, I still feel like Silky has not yet reached legendary status. I think the time has been too short for them. I think legendary also means just being everywhere or at least having big memorable projects (as Dela isn't everywhere, but the projects she is in are) that's why I would argue Eureka is a legend because her name is EVERYWHERE.
I will say that even though theyve never been on all stars because of bad relationships with ru and are very estranged with WOW, courtney act and willam are some of the biggest drag race titans i can think of
@@riley5142 Seriously! Honestly I think it's strange how many people absolutely hate Kennedy but then stan Alyssa so hard 🤷 They're both pagent queens from Texas who slay lip syncs and have some of the most iconic lines in drag race history.
The 2 swaps I would make: Katya - Swapping out Alexis for Katya, I don't see the fan support for Alexis on an initial legends season to put her on the cast before other queens that you cut sooner Aja - swapping out Silky for Aja, I think Aja's robbed queen narrative, willingness to stir the pot, and Valentina on the same season is better storylines (for the producers)
The thing is that Katya has openly said she will not compete again even if invited to something bigger then allstars. Katya has said she would comeback as a mentor or even as a guest judge but not a contestant.
"Legends" is such a hard concept to cast because you can choose the queens from at least 4 different perspectives: - Who has the best track record from their past performances? - Who would actually want to come back? - Who would WOW choose? - Who is most iconic and beloved by the fandom? That's hard enough for a regular All Stars season, which is partially why we have what feels like five of them a year now. It's insane but I kinda love that it's so hard to choose, because it means Drag Race has given us way too many amazing queens to fit into one Legends season.
I would think that a Legends season would be for queens who were already really successful before the show, for example: Lady Bunny, Jackie Beat, Sherry Vine, Varla Jean Merman, Coco Peru, etc.
I have to disagree with what you said about Naomi when it comes to the competition. Naomi has excelled at sewing / makeover challenges, did amazing on Snatch Game, Did great in Jersey Justice, fun variety show, and slayed the girl group challenge plus she's an amazing lip syncer. WOW would definitely want her back for drama especially if the brought back Manila too
Exactly and Monet even said she thought Naomi was gonna win the Jersey Justice challenge it's clear that they played Naomi on all stars 4 because imo she did well in alot of challenges on her original season and on all stars 4 she is definitely a legend imo
You know what I think would be pretty fun? A Runner Up season. All the queens who were SO CLOSE to the crown come back and compete. I feel like it would get really bloody lmao
While Raven is undoubtedly one of the most iconic queens to ever appear on the show, I think casting her on a season like this would be very unlikely because a) as you said, she's Ru's make-up artist and b) she's definitely lost a lot of fan support due to her blackfishing and racist comments. I don't think she'd be received well, but she'd make the perfect villain, at least, I guess.
I think with Raven as much as I would love her on the show I would also worry that Ru would favour her or be bias towards her out of fear that she would quit being her makeup artist or starting feuds between them
Has she really lost a lot of fans or is it just a pretty loud minority? I mean the viewership for Photo Fashion Ruview hasn't fallen away in recent years.
No, Raven hasn't lost a lot of fans because of apparent backlash of the blackfishing allegations (which really are over-inflated IMHO) Her social media keeps growing and she's getting only getting more popular.
@@waddledeedeee it doesn't make sense to me at all, that contestants deaths are overlooked. especially when it's not mentioned at all. If he would have mentioned it, it would have made sense, but not mentioning that scenario makes me kind of uncomfortable.
Great video. It broke my heart seeing so many icons being cut after the top 28. I think if I made the season I’d have to have different rules bc I need katya on it Edit: i personally don’t think anyone from all stars 6 should be on, as it feels to new to me. Tbh anyone post s11 doesn’t feel ready for a legends season.
Also another idea for a casting vid like this: If there was a UK all-stars season, who would be your picks from each season? I know for me it'd be like: s1: Blu, Cheryl, Sum Ting s2: Tayce, Tia, Asttina s3: Choriza, River, Vanity And then 3 from s4 but we don't know the cast yet lmao.
If I was taking 4 from each season: s1: Sum Ting, Gothy/Scaredy but only one of those 2, Cheryl, Blu s2: Bimini, Tia, Asttina, A'Whora s3: Choriza, River, Anubis, Victoria :)
I just realized... I NEED to see Ben and Manila compete in the same season. Then throw in Detox, Ginger Minj, Shangela, Valentina, and Mo Heart. Damn I'm getting hyped up for my pretend casting LMAO
i understand the point but i also feel like silky’s problem in all stars 6 was that she came back too soon, i think with extra time she would come back and shine but she just didn’t have the time to grow enough from her original season, just like ginger on all stars 2
Yeah, Silky seems like the most obvious to run on another regular All Stars. She's got a lot of goodwill built up, but I don't know that shes at "legend" status outside of lipsyncs. Trinity and Rajah both already have a ton of fan love as icons, but I don't think Silky has become an iconic figure, she's just had an iconic moment.
Challenge wins don’t define the skill level of a queen. We’ve seen it time and time again. Some people win challenges and it’s been really close. Or someone should’ve won but was overlooked
Im sorry but Kennedy is just PURE TALENT! She won season 7 snatch game should have been a single winner! She had the Bitchelor, she had the john waters challenge, her lip syncs, her kitty girl verse! DAMN i could literally talk about Kennedy all day! She deserves to come back, I think she could get to finale again!
Everyone's track records for being in the bottom multiple times should have been taken into consideration. Also their ability to be a triple threat, acting/improv/comedy, dancing, and design challenge abilities. Some of these queens don't have strong comedy/acting or dancing abilities. I think it would be fair to swap out Naomi for either Trinity K Bonet or Ginger Minge.
I don’t think Naomi has ever been shown to have poor dancing abilities, she’s done pretty well in almost every challenge she’s done with choreography like Bitch Perfect, Everybody Say love, and Super Queen. She also has a couple VERY good lip syncs and has never lost a lip sync either, and is one of the tour girls for Voss Events and is in the Vegas show. She’s also not that bad in acting/improv/comedy she’s actually done pretty well in a lot of those challenges. Her Wendy Williams was fantastic her political smear commercial was really good (probably would’ve won if Kim’s didn’t suck), Club 96 is legendary even if she was in the bottom, she did pretty good in the Empire acting challenge (obviously outshined by Bob tho), and her Jersey Justice was really good too even though they edited most of her jokes out. As far as design/fashion challenges go she’s easily the best out of everyone here being undefeated at Makeover Challenges and having RuPaul copy an outfit she made for the S9 promo. I honestly think there’s only been two or three challenges out of all the challenges she’s done where she did really bad probably S8 Snatch game, Sex In the City, and Lady Bunny Roast. Also, about the bottoms both Ginger (6) and Trinity (7) have more bottom placements than Naomi (4), also they have both been eliminated before, which Naomi hasn’t and has placed as a runner-up on both seasons. Also, I think the argument WOW doesn’t want her as bad is pretty wild considering they had her on the Vegas Show and she had MUG with Kim, and the Klarna show with Violet. I think that because her focus is on aesthetics and fashion it’s easy to forget that she’s not really bad at anything, she just has had a few off challenges like all the queens do. Sorry that this got so long lol.
LOVE love love this! I think your logic and reasoning is fantastic. My only thing is that Tammy Brown should get a season where she just does stuff cause I like her.
I think the season would be: Alyssa Edwards (is a must) Dela (is a must) Detox (a must) Shangela (a must) Latrice (a must) Manila (a must) Jujubee (a must) Those are the ones that definately should be but that leaves 7 other spots.. I think those spots would be filled by.. Raven( such an icon they would find a way) Coco (although she did bad on as2 she is a must) And silky ( should be there) And I really think they would go for ledgends of all time aswell like from other franchises and stuff so I would include Lemon Pangina Heels Tayce And I feel like one regular us queen should be there because she is an icon and that is….drum roll please…. Peppermint!!!
Shannel, Shangela, Manila, Alexis, Detox, Ben, Valentina, Alyssa, Monique, Silky and I'd throw in Gigi Goode as well. If this is a legends season we need queens who are fan favorites, good competitors, bring drama, excellent runways and are talented lipsyncers.
Not to mention she is a good lipsyncer. This arbitrary “win two lipsyncs” is not a solid way to call it. You can lipsync against someone really bad, still be a shitty lipsyncer and get a win. It would be nice if you would judge off of merit and actual decent lipsyncing instead of going along with the shows nonsense. Katya is a great lipsyncer and mover.
@@schm4943 katya has also stated that shes not a good lipsyncer, but shes quite agile n can do flippy shit so she can trick people into thinkin she can dance
In all of the franchise there are 321 queens in total (counting all the international seasons too and the Switch who is part of the Drag Race franchise), and In USA seasons there are 266 queens
The big change I would make is replace Silky with Eureka. The way you presented it, Roxxxy and Silky would have the same story line and I don’t think production would do that. Both Silky and Eureka were poorly received their original seasons and both changed perceptions on allstars. But Eureka already found the balance between personality and competing and that would give her a leg up in my opinion.
I disagree with the lip sync win quota, since most queens have only lip synced since they’ve been in the bottom on their original season. Some queens haven’t had the chance to lip sync. More appropriate would be if a queen had lost two lip syncs or more then she should be cut. That keeps Katya in the running and Katya is obviously a legend.
Let’s not act like Willam wouldn’t do this if she got the call. While she wasn’t on All Stars, she was initially casted. If we are talking Legendary then Willam would be there if invited
for this particular all star season, i would hope that they would change the system. nobody gets cut, but instead they will have a point system. two episodes before the finale, the top five queens will only be the ones to proceed. that way, we will all see what each and every queen has to offer for the entire season. if they cut one queen each episode, we, the audience, would miss out. a lipsync for your legacy between the top two queens would add some spice to the episode
If you were looking for a already pre-designed, 14 contestant season, complete with maxi-challenges, runways, mini-challenges, lipsync songs, etc, for this fantasy season of yours, would you be interested in one? I had made one a few weeks back, though technically it was made for a regular season, I'm sure the challenges could transfer over quite quickly!
I don’t wanna be one of “those people” but I would replace Alexis with katya. And possibly shangela with Trixie, JUST because that would make a really good storyline, and both of those people are absolute legends of rag race.
If this ever ran, it would be Dela's to lose. But I was actually hoping the "legends" would be older, pre-RPDR drag legends like Varla Jean Merman or Lady Bunny or Jackie Beat or Coco Peru or Heada Lettuce. Legends the kids have never heard of!
14 Queens, eh? (keeping out winners): Raven, Katya, Detox, Latrice Royale, Shangela, Bedela Creme, Manila Luzon, Alexis Mateo, Alyssa Edwards, Jujubee, Naomi Smalls, Valentina, Adore. Last Place is a toss up between: Kennedy Davenport and Roxxy Andrews. (If Raven is too much of a conflict with production, they are both in the cast. If Raven stays, I would go with Kennedy.)
Juju, Shangela, Manila, Latrice, Detox, Alyssa, Raja, Tati, Ben, Jinkx. Solid set. However Alaska, Katya, Cracker, Trinity and even Valentina...Trixie... Latrice... For money you could probably slash it in half. But you can't deny that this would be a hoot.
I honestly feel like the only swap I'd make is to remove Roxxxy Andrews just because her showing on her season of All Stars was just... it was a damper on the whole season. I dont see Roxxxy suddenly becoming a memeable queen with a glowing personality. Shes an amazing look queen but drag race is all about humor and she consistently stumbles at those challenges. As for who I'd fill that spot with? I think probably... Katya, lol. If not Katya than Shannel because if we're keeping queens for their legendary talents I mean, she walked the runway and juggled. Im sure she can burn a lipsync to the ground and her losing said lipsync was kind of a weird technicality on her choosing to be eliminated that episode.
For drag race legend season i just have one answer and that’s: RAVEN. I think they’re gonna have gottmik do rupauls makeup if raven is competing also i love your channel drag detective, it’s so entertaining and i just love it☺️🌸💖
There's 294 Ru girls, if you count all US, UK, Thailand, Canada, Spain, Italy, Holland, and Down Under queens. I didn't count Dragula, The Switch, etc. bc I'm not sure how they fit in to the Drag Race franchise. (Also this isn't counting a certain queen that definitely did *not* appear on Season 12)
Having just All Stars queens considered for a Legends season robs us from legendary queens that never made it to All Stars (yet) like Brooke Lynn Hytes, Kameron Michaels, Kim Chi, Gottmik, Peppermint, Laganja Estranja.
Scarlet Envy has 1 win from S11 and A'keria technically has 2 lip sync wins. Apologies for the mistakes!
No you were right on A'keria, she won against rajah on season 11 but lost to yvie in the finale and in all stars 6 she didnt lipsync
@@robertolore she won. The sixway lipsync
@@robertolore A’keria was part of the 6 person lip sync
@@cashshiten1963 you are right, i totally forgot that mess😂
Didn’t Jujubee only win 1 challenge across her seasons?
I dont know what context it would have to be but id kill to have DeLa and Jinkx on the same season. Paired in an acting challenge, gold. Snatch Game, unreal. God I want it so bad
An AS1 season done right would be a perfect context. Pairings that trully work well together and whose members go into the season knowing the pairing sistem and who their partner would be.
In this context, a Jinkx/Dela partnership would not only be a no-brainer choice, but I trully think it would be difficult to find another pairing that could beat them
@@ilunaker1032 Bob & monet, Manila & latrice, and Naomi & Kim are some other duos that would work well together
But Jujubee has only one challenge win so shouldn’t she have been cut for not winning two challenges??? No shade I love your channel and content so much.
@@gioaarons I would add Asia and Kameron, Violet and Mik to this too. That would be such a fun season
@@ilunaker1032 Katya and Trixie
Cutting TKB before the very end was a deja vu I never wanted to experience again.
THE TRAUMA WAS REAL
i love eureka but it was not deserved
She was a bore though
@@TheAbigailDeeThe struggle is real.
Cutting Chi Chi because she only has one challenge win is somewhat calming. Rest in Power
I'm absolutely gutted that we never got the chance to see Chi Chi on All Stars as a lip sync assassin. Same goes for Sahara Davenport. They both would've SLAYED. 😔
@@edro51188 she literally was on all stars 3
And she didnt slay
@@jakubpuchalski2583 edro is talking about chi chi coming back to All Stars as a lip sync assassin, NOT a contestant.
And Chi Chi WOULD have killed as a lip sync assassin.
@@BZBZBZBB oh yeah my bad. Sorry
@@jakubpuchalski2583 All good, I agree with the sentiment about All-Stars more generally. I think Chi Chi even said that she felt she wasn’t good at playing the All Stars game and does better at like traditional drag pageants
Alyssa Edwards is definitely one of the legends. I mean, you can see traces of her even on drag race seasons that came after her..from her appearances on future seasons,references, and catch phrases. That is a legend. Never forgotten, emulated, talked about!
16:53 I'd *love* to see a video about queens turning around their fan reception. Whether that's for better, like Eureka, Silky, and Rajah, or worse, like Cracker and Jan. It's such an interesting topic to delve into because fan reception is a very fickle beast.
Okay but can we talk about how amazing the runways would be with a cast like this? I'd ascend
Except Latrice like just gowns
@@beebeedeeie 💀
@@beebeedeeie I mean...beautiful gowns!
@@beebeedeeie Latrice's gowns are stunning though.
Omg yes jujube in a red wig and a silver dress 👗
All stars: Aquaria Edition
Cast:
Aquaria
Miz Cracker
Scarlett Adams
Sagittaria
Krystal Versace
Scarlett is really problematic. Drop her, please.
@@asaabrahamagulnik574 This is not a wishlist, it’s more like a joke about them looking almost exactly the same
I’d also add “Vera Cruz” from “la más draga”
as an aquaria fan, can't wait to see this, though i must say i'm suprised gigi isn't on this list considering the amount of comparisons they got
@@brayan_rioya Phew!
Can you imagine if Porkchop won the early out season. That would make me so happy
I have a strong feeling that she is either gonna win and it’s going to be iconic or she is going to go home first because that would also be iconic
well if she keeps doing mall lady drag she is not going to go above her first eliminated iconic status.
What are the rumours for the early out season? I can’t seem to find them anywhere
@@redduskironsky1058 ppp
@@Elliot18 cast:
Juice Boxx
Rock M Sakura
Dahlia Sin
Yuhua Hamasaki
Roem
Macarena
Drag Vulcano
VICTORIA SCONE
Veronica Green
Mimi Imfurst
India Ferrah
April Carrion
12th: Mimi
11th: India
10th: Roem
9th: Macarena
8th: April Carrion
7th: Drag Vulcano
6th: Yuhua Hamasaki
5th: Veronica Green
4th: Dahlia Sin
3rd: Juice Boxx
2nd: Rock M Sakura
1st: Victoria Scone
I agree with the initial criteria of having only queens who competed on all stars, but i also feel that queens like Brook lynn hytes and maybe Willam are more suited for legends rather than normal all stars
yeah only in this hypothetical scenario though because neither will ever compete ever again. Willam for obvious reasons and Brook has said in interviews that now being a judge it doesn't make sense for her to come and compete. Don't know how Pangina having just competed on UKvTW would change Brook's mind though, maybe!
@@aroidpapa Brooke could def go win another UKVTW-like season
I guess this video was before the winners version of all stars, but even still… how would a legend season without any past DR winners make sense? That’s leaving out a whole bunch of legendary fan favorites
I feel like “LEGENDS” would be the perfect approach for All Stars 10. 9 seasons of all stars in and now we have gathered the best of those crownless queens to compete to prove themselves above other All-Stars: a legend.
KATYA not being in the cast does not fit with my fantasy.
Thankyou for expressing my feelings
I would swap roxxy for katya
@@darkprince3007 katya has nothing to prove. roxxxy was in the bottom like 1000 times. so she has more to prove and i would like to see that
OMLLLLL I HAVENT EVEN WATCHED THE VIDEO NOOOOOOOOO NOT ROPOOPXY
She’s known but she’s just a regular queen with bad hair most of the time, she’s not a legend just fan favourite
Fun fact: Katya has lost the most lipsyncs out of any Drag Race contestant ever at five. So, when you said lipsync wins would be a factor in competing, I got worried for her lol
Both of her lip syncs against Alaska were rigged so I never even count those. Her only fair lip sync losses, in my eyes, were against Kennedy Davenport in S7 and Detox in AS2.
Am I being dumb at not being able to remember the 5th?
@@robdavid6192 The top 3 lipsync of All Stars 2
Jimbo said "hold my beer bitch 🤡"
Fun fact. Jimbo know holds that title with 6/7 lip sync losses. 1 from Canada, 2 from UK Vs the world and 3 from AS8. With her one win also being in AS8
it's criminal not to have Tatianna on a legends season, specially when queens such as silky are in...
recency should be the first filter, very very very few queens after season 9 have had enough time and exposure to qualify as legends in the same way someone like Kennedy or Raven have
and id probably disqualify everyone from all stars 6 just cuz they already came back so recently..
Agreed. Silky I think should be on another All Stars season first. Rajah was great but I can’t really think of anything specific that makes her iconic. Out of the 3 I’d keep TKB.
totally agree with it all!
Totally agree. And besides, if anyone from the more recent season qualifies as a legend in the competition it is Eureka and I’m not even a huge Eureka fan.
Even though I LOVED AS6, I still feel like Silky has not yet reached legendary status. I think the time has been too short for them. I think legendary also means just being everywhere or at least having big memorable projects (as Dela isn't everywhere, but the projects she is in are) that's why I would argue Eureka is a legend because her name is EVERYWHERE.
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Shangela will be back as many times as they ask her to be, I'm totally sure
halleloo
She gotta get her most times on drag Race crown back from Jujubee
She's a VERY busy queen. Might not fit her schedule.
Shangela and Jujubee loves being edged, don't they x) ?
i think brooke would also fit well here. it would be kinda weird having basically the rupaul of canada on to compete in regular all stars.
If they casted a certain other judge for UK vs the world then I think they would invite Brooke
When we saw Roxxxy come in as a lip sync assassin that was the moment I KNEW I needed her back. Completely fearless and just an absolute joy to watch.
I’m a Roxxxy apologist till the day I die. Love her and I loved her on season 5 too
i still think katya deserves a spot here regardless of if she won enough lipsyncs
Honestly if this was the cast, BendelaCreme would win again. Maybe Manilla coming close but BendelaCreme is just too good for Drag race in general.
Feel like Ben, Manila, Detox and Shangela would be top 4
"Now what else makes a good Drag Race season... Lipsyncs" - My mind: KATYAAAAA NOOOOO 🤣🤣🙈
I will say that even though theyve never been on all stars because of bad relationships with ru and are very estranged with WOW, courtney act and willam are some of the biggest drag race titans i can think of
Drag Detective: Most fans prob wouldn’t want to Kennedy back right now at all.
Me: Has wanted Kennedy Davenport back in my TV screen since AS4
That part
I just want a season where Kennedy gets the recognition she deserves …
@@riley5142 yesssss
@@riley5142 Seriously! Honestly I think it's strange how many people absolutely hate Kennedy but then stan Alyssa so hard 🤷 They're both pagent queens from Texas who slay lip syncs and have some of the most iconic lines in drag race history.
agreed
I would love to see the delusional interactions between Valentina and Alyssa in the BEST way
the way i ran faster than kennedy's "milk"
The 2 swaps I would make:
Katya - Swapping out Alexis for Katya, I don't see the fan support for Alexis on an initial legends season to put her on the cast before other queens that you cut sooner
Aja - swapping out Silky for Aja, I think Aja's robbed queen narrative, willingness to stir the pot, and Valentina on the same season is better storylines (for the producers)
Aja on a legends season over Alexis Mateo?
The thing is that Katya has openly said she will not compete again even if invited to something bigger then allstars. Katya has said she would comeback as a mentor or even as a guest judge but not a contestant.
"Legends" is such a hard concept to cast because you can choose the queens from at least 4 different perspectives:
- Who has the best track record from their past performances?
- Who would actually want to come back?
- Who would WOW choose?
- Who is most iconic and beloved by the fandom?
That's hard enough for a regular All Stars season, which is partially why we have what feels like five of them a year now. It's insane but I kinda love that it's so hard to choose, because it means Drag Race has given us way too many amazing queens to fit into one Legends season.
I would think that a Legends season would be for queens who were already really successful before the show, for example: Lady Bunny, Jackie Beat, Sherry Vine, Varla Jean Merman, Coco Peru, etc.
I have to disagree with what you said about Naomi when it comes to the competition. Naomi has excelled at sewing / makeover challenges, did amazing on Snatch Game, Did great in Jersey Justice, fun variety show, and slayed the girl group challenge plus she's an amazing lip syncer. WOW would definitely want her back for drama especially if the brought back Manila too
Exactly and Monet even said she thought Naomi was gonna win the Jersey Justice challenge it's clear that they played Naomi on all stars 4 because imo she did well in alot of challenges on her original season and on all stars 4 she is definitely a legend imo
I honestly think Naomi and Manila would both be cast PURELY for the storyline of Naomi sending Manila home
You know what I think would be pretty fun? A Runner Up season. All the queens who were SO CLOSE to the crown come back and compete. I feel like it would get really bloody lmao
Or an all season of first out queens
8:25 Scarlett has 1 challenge win, acting challenge of season 11
While Raven is undoubtedly one of the most iconic queens to ever appear on the show, I think casting her on a season like this would be very unlikely because a) as you said, she's Ru's make-up artist and b) she's definitely lost a lot of fan support due to her blackfishing and racist comments. I don't think she'd be received well, but she'd make the perfect villain, at least, I guess.
Raven playing the villain would be pretty iconic, and she wouldn’t really care what fans said about her. Sign me up
I think with Raven as much as I would love her on the show I would also worry that Ru would favour her or be bias towards her out of fear that she would quit being her makeup artist or starting feuds between them
Has she really lost a lot of fans or is it just a pretty loud minority? I mean the viewership for Photo Fashion Ruview hasn't fallen away in recent years.
No, Raven hasn't lost a lot of fans because of apparent backlash of the blackfishing allegations (which really are over-inflated IMHO) Her social media keeps growing and she's getting only getting more popular.
Can we just have her back to win an all villains season against queens that the other queens didn’t like
I personally don’t think that Shannel should have been eliminated since she hasn’t had the opportunity to lip sync a second time it seems unfair
I fully agree. I think that Shannel is like Tatianna, she needs to come back a third time for her to fully become the legend that she is.
Also her team (with Chad) won the first lipsync of AS1, so wouldn't that be two?
Actually she had the chance to do so in the lip sync against Rebecca Glasscock in the Ball episode
she did lip sync twice... miss mandarin
@@ikermartinez3478 wait why was tatianna cut?
"Cutting chichi because she won one challenge" ‐sure that is the only reason why...
Hearing that made me kind of uncomfortable 😩
@@kh4487 I couldn't go on with the video after that, Rest in perfection Chi Chi.
guys, these is a fantasy settibg in which chichi si still alive. thats why they said that
@@waddledeedeee yeah we know, still doesn't make it less uncomfortable. Just my feelings.
@@waddledeedeee it doesn't make sense to me at all, that contestants deaths are overlooked. especially when it's not mentioned at all. If he would have mentioned it, it would have made sense, but not mentioning that scenario makes me kind of uncomfortable.
Great video. It broke my heart seeing so many icons being cut after the top 28. I think if I made the season I’d have to have different rules bc I need katya on it
Edit: i personally don’t think anyone from all stars 6 should be on, as it feels to new to me. Tbh anyone post s11 doesn’t feel ready for a legends season.
I have a feeling we’ll see Raven again. I think GotMik could take over as Ru’s make up artist for raven to go on. At least that’s what I’d like to see
I’d love to see a concept for Drag Race Dancing Queens
Queens who are skilled choreographers or have a background in Dance before doing drag
The background meows of your cat are amazing, I kept turning around thinking mine was wanting attention lol. Love your videos!
in the moment you said they needed at least 2 lipsync wins i started shouting for katya 😭
Also another idea for a casting vid like this: If there was a UK all-stars season, who would be your picks from each season?
I know for me it'd be like:
s1: Blu, Cheryl, Sum Ting
s2: Tayce, Tia, Asttina
s3: Choriza, River, Vanity
And then 3 from s4 but we don't know the cast yet lmao.
If I was taking 4 from each season:
s1: Sum Ting, Gothy/Scaredy but only one of those 2, Cheryl, Blu
s2: Bimini, Tia, Asttina, A'Whora
s3: Choriza, River, Anubis, Victoria :)
No baga? 😥 comedy gold and would slayyyy
@@joequai3271 there’s a reason why she isn’t mentioned lol
S1: blu baga cheryl Crystal
S2: Tayce A’whora Bimini Asstina
S3: Vanity Charity Scarlett Anubis
@@minarisbutera whys that
A'keria actually won 2 lip syncs! The 6 way one and the other against Ra'jah
Nobody counts the 6 way one
@@niekklaver3030 said no one
@@niekklaver3030 So I guess Honey never got eliminated?
@@javier8920 I wish she didn’t get eliminated 😭
I just realized... I NEED to see Ben and Manila compete in the same season.
Then throw in Detox, Ginger Minj, Shangela, Valentina, and Mo Heart. Damn I'm getting hyped up for my pretend casting LMAO
Silky was the obvious cut. Being an early out in their All Star season should disqualify them.
i understand the point but i also feel like silky’s problem in all stars 6 was that she came back too soon, i think with extra time she would come back and shine but she just didn’t have the time to grow enough from her original season, just like ginger on all stars 2
Yeah, Silky seems like the most obvious to run on another regular All Stars. She's got a lot of goodwill built up, but I don't know that shes at "legend" status outside of lipsyncs. Trinity and Rajah both already have a ton of fan love as icons, but I don't think Silky has become an iconic figure, she's just had an iconic moment.
Same could be said for Valentina as well...?
That could also be seen as unfair thought considering Roxxxy could have easily been an early out if Rolaskatox didn't exist and she was bottom 2 alot
A season with this cast would SLAUGHTER me omg….. i would bawl my eyes out at every elimination bc i love them all so much
YOU FORGOT ABOUT SCARLETS WIN HJGGKFKG
edit: omg akerias lipsyncs too
Challenge wins don’t define the skill level of a queen. We’ve seen it time and time again. Some people win challenges and it’s been really close. Or someone should’ve won but was overlooked
Akeria technically won the 6 way lipsync although it was a inchresting win
Do you mean interesting?
nah, inchresting
All stars 2 would finally have competition for the best season of all time if this were to happen
as6 n uk2 say hi
@@waddledeedeee ignoring DRES the absolute nerve of you
@@Joaquin_. ohh, and españa as well
Dream tv
It's unfortunate that Chi Chi "doesn't make the cut." You fail to mention that Chi Chi is no longer with us!!!!. RIP.
I could also see a lot of these queens on international all stars
Your basis on who is in and who is out is stupid but I do appreciate you putting this video together love the channel keep up the good work.
Im sorry but Kennedy is just PURE TALENT! She won season 7 snatch game should have been a single winner! She had the Bitchelor, she had the john waters challenge, her lip syncs, her kitty girl verse! DAMN i could literally talk about Kennedy all day! She deserves to come back, I think she could get to finale again!
the fear in your voice when you had to cut katya PLEASE
Seeing Chi Chi’s name brought back all sorts of emotions 😢 Rest in power 🕊
Everyone's track records for being in the bottom multiple times should have been taken into consideration. Also their ability to be a triple threat, acting/improv/comedy, dancing, and design challenge abilities. Some of these queens don't have strong comedy/acting or dancing abilities. I think it would be fair to swap out Naomi for either Trinity K Bonet or Ginger Minge.
I don’t think Naomi has ever been shown to have poor dancing abilities, she’s done pretty well in almost every challenge she’s done with choreography like Bitch Perfect, Everybody Say love, and Super Queen. She also has a couple VERY good lip syncs and has never lost a lip sync either, and is one of the tour girls for Voss Events and is in the Vegas show. She’s also not that bad in acting/improv/comedy she’s actually done pretty well in a lot of those challenges. Her Wendy Williams was fantastic her political smear commercial was really good (probably would’ve won if Kim’s didn’t suck), Club 96 is legendary even if she was in the bottom, she did pretty good in the Empire acting challenge (obviously outshined by Bob tho), and her Jersey Justice was really good too even though they edited most of her jokes out. As far as design/fashion challenges go she’s easily the best out of everyone here being undefeated at Makeover Challenges and having RuPaul copy an outfit she made for the S9 promo. I honestly think there’s only been two or three challenges out of all the challenges she’s done where she did really bad probably S8 Snatch game, Sex In the City, and Lady Bunny Roast. Also, about the bottoms both Ginger (6) and Trinity (7) have more bottom placements than Naomi (4), also they have both been eliminated before, which Naomi hasn’t and has placed as a runner-up on both seasons. Also, I think the argument WOW doesn’t want her as bad is pretty wild considering they had her on the Vegas Show and she had MUG with Kim, and the Klarna show with Violet. I think that because her focus is on aesthetics and fashion it’s easy to forget that she’s not really bad at anything, she just has had a few off challenges like all the queens do. Sorry that this got so long lol.
Please acknowledge that chi chi passed away 🥺 regardless they couldn’t be on legends, but always a legend in our hearts!
LOVE love love this! I think your logic and reasoning is fantastic. My only thing is that Tammy Brown should get a season where she just does stuff cause I like her.
I think the season would be:
Alyssa Edwards (is a must)
Dela (is a must)
Detox (a must)
Shangela (a must)
Latrice (a must)
Manila (a must)
Jujubee (a must)
Those are the ones that definately should be but that leaves 7 other spots..
I think those spots would be filled by..
Raven( such an icon they would find a way)
Coco (although she did bad on as2 she is a must)
And silky ( should be there)
And I really think they would go for ledgends of all time aswell like from other franchises and stuff so I would include
Lemon
Pangina Heels
Tayce
And I feel like one regular us queen should be there because she is an icon and that is….drum roll please…. Peppermint!!!
I’ve been binge watching your videos all day, they are so entertaining
Shannel, Shangela, Manila, Alexis, Detox, Ben, Valentina, Alyssa, Monique, Silky and I'd throw in Gigi Goode as well.
If this is a legends season we need queens who are fan favorites, good competitors, bring drama, excellent runways and are talented lipsyncers.
Love that you put time an effort into this, I was devastated when you took Tatiana out of the cast
You lost me at Katya being cut, she’s probably one of the biggest legends there
on the other hand, shes said loud n clear on multiple occasions that she plans on never going back to drag race, so...
Not to mention she is a good lipsyncer. This arbitrary “win two lipsyncs” is not a solid way to call it. You can lipsync against someone really bad, still be a shitty lipsyncer and get a win.
It would be nice if you would judge off of merit and actual decent lipsyncing instead of going along with the shows nonsense. Katya is a great lipsyncer and mover.
@@schm4943 katya has also stated that shes not a good lipsyncer, but shes quite agile n can do flippy shit so she can trick people into thinkin she can dance
In all of the franchise there are 321 queens in total (counting all the international seasons too and the Switch who is part of the Drag Race franchise), and In USA seasons there are 266 queens
damn i didnt know ginger was not a fan favourite cause i love having her on my screen all. the. time.
The big change I would make is replace Silky with Eureka. The way you presented it, Roxxxy and Silky would have the same story line and I don’t think production would do that. Both Silky and Eureka were poorly received their original seasons and both changed perceptions on allstars. But Eureka already found the balance between personality and competing and that would give her a leg up in my opinion.
why mention Chi Chi at all? like yes baby she won’t be competing because she literally died.
Love this we need an updated cast list pls.
latrice said that she never wants to compete on rupaul’s drag race again
I disagree with the lip sync win quota, since most queens have only lip synced since they’ve been in the bottom on their original season. Some queens haven’t had the chance to lip sync. More appropriate would be if a queen had lost two lip syncs or more then she should be cut. That keeps Katya in the running and Katya is obviously a legend.
I love the seriousness for something in the realm of fantasy =)
I Think this cast is pretty fitting! Great job!
Excuse me? Scarlett no win? I know it's shared, but still....
he said 2 wins
@@Hello-qv2fx but he also said scarlett had "no" wins. Just a minor detail.
@@seank1033 oh
8:43 28 Queens left, half for the first season of legends, the other half for the second season
Lmao, I didn't see a more diverde cast than this 😂. Lots of poc, diverse talents and experience. Love it
Let’s not act like Willam wouldn’t do this if she got the call. While she wasn’t on All Stars, she was initially casted. If we are talking Legendary then Willam would be there if invited
for this particular all star season, i would hope that they would change the system. nobody gets cut, but instead they will have a point system. two episodes before the finale, the top five queens will only be the ones to proceed. that way, we will all see what each and every queen has to offer for the entire season. if they cut one queen each episode, we, the audience, would miss out. a lipsync for your legacy between the top two queens would add some spice to the episode
katya being taken out was the start of the downfall of this list
Omg you are one silly person she would not come back
She’s literally one of the biggest name on drag race
@@Acridix. if your talking to me … gurl she wouldn’t come back or fucked her mental health up ALLOT
@@keiran2181 the video is called casting a drag race legends season and Katya is top of the top point blank period
@@Acridix. but she wouldn’t come back did you even watch the video
Trinity K Bonet being cut right before the end was not only a mistake but it gave me war flashbacks
If you were looking for a already pre-designed, 14 contestant season, complete with maxi-challenges, runways, mini-challenges, lipsync songs, etc, for this fantasy season of yours, would you be interested in one? I had made one a few weeks back, though technically it was made for a regular season, I'm sure the challenges could transfer over quite quickly!
I’d love a casting video for an all stars for just just queens from the first three or four seasons!
RuPaul would do a season in S12 luchador masks if Raven were to compete again.
I don’t wanna be one of “those people” but I would replace Alexis with katya. And possibly shangela with Trixie, JUST because that would make a really good storyline, and both of those people are absolute legends of rag race.
Living for the meows in the background
If this ever ran, it would be Dela's to lose. But I was actually hoping the "legends" would be older, pre-RPDR drag legends like Varla Jean Merman or Lady Bunny or Jackie Beat or Coco Peru or Heada Lettuce. Legends the kids have never heard of!
That’s would be so good ❤️
Please complete a mock season of this cast. How you think it would go.
Whaaat they're doing an early out's season?? Omg I'm so ready!
14 Queens, eh? (keeping out winners): Raven, Katya, Detox, Latrice Royale, Shangela, Bedela Creme, Manila Luzon, Alexis Mateo, Alyssa Edwards, Jujubee, Naomi Smalls, Valentina, Adore. Last Place is a toss up between: Kennedy Davenport and Roxxy Andrews. (If Raven is too much of a conflict with production, they are both in the cast. If Raven stays, I would go with Kennedy.)
Best list. Fax it through. That’s gotta happen
Juju, Shangela, Manila, Latrice, Detox, Alyssa, Raja, Tati, Ben, Jinkx. Solid set. However Alaska, Katya, Cracker, Trinity and even Valentina...Trixie... Latrice... For money you could probably slash it in half. But you can't deny that this would be a hoot.
I didnt realize how into this video I was until I gasped when you cut Kennedy Davenport. Im dying to see her win a drag race season.
they should do a season of all the queens that went home first!
I honestly feel like the only swap I'd make is to remove Roxxxy Andrews just because her showing on her season of All Stars was just... it was a damper on the whole season. I dont see Roxxxy suddenly becoming a memeable queen with a glowing personality. Shes an amazing look queen but drag race is all about humor and she consistently stumbles at those challenges.
As for who I'd fill that spot with? I think probably... Katya, lol. If not Katya than Shannel because if we're keeping queens for their legendary talents I mean, she walked the runway and juggled. Im sure she can burn a lipsync to the ground and her losing said lipsync was kind of a weird technicality on her choosing to be eliminated that episode.
1:03 When did they announce the early outs season? I haven't heard anything in regards to it. Is there an announcement somewhere about it?
I NEED to see you play this season out!
For drag race legend season i just have one answer and that’s: RAVEN. I think they’re gonna have gottmik do rupauls makeup if raven is competing
also i love your channel drag detective, it’s so entertaining and i just love it☺️🌸💖
I’m sorry what💀 the adore one is wild especially because she won the fan vote for most favorite
There's 294 Ru girls, if you count all US, UK, Thailand, Canada, Spain, Italy, Holland, and Down Under queens. I didn't count Dragula, The Switch, etc. bc I'm not sure how they fit in to the Drag Race franchise.
(Also this isn't counting a certain queen that definitely did *not* appear on Season 12)
I probably would’ve taken Silky out instead of Eureka, i think she ended up more like able after all stars 6 🤔
I don't care if Katya just won against Sasha Belle, she HAS TO BE THERE, shes an icon and a LEGEND
Yara Sofia has one lip sync win with her S3 double save with Carmen! 🤍
Having just All Stars queens considered for a Legends season robs us from legendary queens that never made it to All Stars (yet) like Brooke Lynn Hytes, Kameron Michaels, Kim Chi, Gottmik, Peppermint, Laganja Estranja.