The original idea was to have Phi Phi and Willam on. But Phi Phi had some legal issues going on and could not participate, so they cut Willam last minute too because they thought she would not have a story with anyone
I remember reading that story about Phi Phi after I'd made that original video in 2019 (but since it's legal issues I didn't want to make it, let's say, a point in this video), but I've been wondering ever since who was going to get cut. Mimi confirmed that Latrice knew even before her that she was on the season, so Chad? But AS1 was made for Chad to win, so Tammie? The more we learn about the season the sloppier it gets.
@@uckeylee I think they would have chosen 4 queens from season 4. It was the breakout season, also the most recent season and in the fan vote the most requested queen was Sharon Needles, also a season 4 queen. I believe they would have just had 2 queens from the first season, since Rebecca quit drag, Ongina declined and there only being one queen left that's a good choice to cast (for being good TV though... Not as a strong competitor)
@@Max-oi4it Most probably, yeah, but it does make it very imbalanced, especially with the pairs twist. That's why I like the last version of the cast before the official one we got in the end.
@@spawn3721 ye but she was trolling Alaska into thinking she'd be choosing her lipstick. when Alaska wept in front of her and she just said "party" loool
Theres absolutely no way they would of had All Stars 2 without Roxxxy Andrews. The producers loved her and she was a huge villain at that moment in time
Oh I've been talking about that idea for a while now. I'd also add Miss Fame, Acid Betty, Manila, Naomi, KimChi, Lineysha Sparx (I can't remember if she was great at sewing, I just remember her runways being incredible)...
each week they either design a single outfit, a ball, or an entire collection based on the theme. and then you have notable designers, especially drag designers like Florence Dlee or Lady Hyde coming in as guest judges.
Also a note: they changed the MC voting system almost last minute before s10 finale, they still kept it for fans to pick at the first place but people started using bots and sending millions of votes for Kalorie Karbdashian Williams ☠️
actually the reason why Miss Congeniality was changed from an audience vote to the queens voting was not the Season 9 reunion fiasco, it was the fact that in season 10 someone hacked the system and sent an enormous amount of votes for The Vixen (as a joke since she wasn’t shown as Congenial during the season)
I love this idea. I think we may be approaching once again to an AS season with a strong cast, with many queens available from seasons 12, 13 and 14, plus additional strong contenders from previous seasons that haven't been invited yet
I think ultimately the title of being an "All-Star" hasn't completely lost its value yet, but given the oversaturation that Drag Race is being consumed by year after year, it would be nice for All Stars to get a break once in a while. I also think that the value of being an All Star ties nicely in a way with the points in the video where you broke down how beating the twists is why each queen won their seasons, especially for the AS Winners. In general, less production meddling would really help All Stars as a franchise....but it is still clear they haven't learned their lesson and I'm getting tired of it.
Honestly I like that every queen gets a chance to come back on all stars, I would love to see everybody come back eventually. Kylie is the prime example that even an early out from an early season can come back and win the competition. All stars 6 is the best AS season for me largely because of its casting and how it allowed us to see queens we didn't expect destroy the competition
Now that season 15 is over here’s the three queens: Anetra (as the queen who almost won) Maylsia Babydoll Fox (Miss cucu) and Loosey Laduca (as the good TV queen who made it far) I can also see Mistress, but I have to show Loosey some love. *edit* now for season 16 finally a full cast. Sapphira, Xunami & Pane Jane.
POV you are back 2 years later to add your Picks for the All-Stars 4 Cast from season 15 & 16 Along Side Rose, Lala, Denali, Camden, Kornbread & Bosco, I would add: From Season 15: MIB, Malaysia, Loosey. And from Seson 16: Sapphira, Xunami, Plane. I originaly wanted to add Anetra for season 15, But MIB would be great tv and the history of drama with Loosey, and atm past drama with Malaysia would help out with the pickings not feeling so random. And for season 16, we have two Congenialitys to fill the spot, but Lucky, Sappira was also a finalist and could have won, so she can be placed into that spot, and just because, I again originally wanted to add Q to see MIB possably gaslight her and read hr, but I thinkthat the Pairing of Sister Jane and Sister MIB would be killer, not to chose. in conclusion the cast that I personaly see for this hypothetical all-stars 4 would be: Lala Ri, Denali, Rose, Konbread Jete, Bosco, Lady Camden, Malaysia Babydoll Fox, Mistress Isabelle Brooks, Loosey LaDuca, Plane Jane, Sapphira Cristal, & Xunami Muse.
how i feel the international seasons of all stars would be cast due to this: Uk: season 1: Divina, Blu and Baga season 2: Bimini, Asttina and Awhora season 3: Anubis, Ella and Choriza Canada: season 1: Rita, Jimbo and Tynomi season 2: Pythia, Suki and Eve France: Soa, Elypse and Kam Down Under: Anita, Etcetera and Art Italy: Luquisha, Farida and Enorma Holland: season 1: Janey, Mama Queen and Abby season 2: Keta, Puny and Tabitha
Great thoughts! You pulled me down the rabbit hole so i'll just do Spain and Thailand: Thailand: S1: Année, B Ella and Dearis S2: Kandy, Maya and Kana Spain: S1: Sagittaria, Pupi and Arantxa S2: Venedita, Samantha and Sethlas
@@criistia.n1759 Agreed but Pupi is miss Cucu so she is there automatically :) But we're also seriously spoiled for choice when it comes to great queens on España.
This video helps us see where the show really peaked. It is kinda sad to see it has not had the same it factor since it moved to VH1. On the other hand, it is actually amazing we are still talking about (and craving) the queens who did not benefit from major online exposure back in their season.
Yeah, I agree that All Stars season lost its meaning after AS2, but I don't think that's a bad thing. I mean, the main problems with the late seasons are either bad challenges (AS5), bad twists (AS3 and 4), or the editing and judging is all over the place (AS7). The only season I belive had a kind of meh cast was AS5
All the cast of AS2 and AS1 were iconic. The other All Stars seasons had SOME iconic queens. That’s why they should do an All Stars season every 4 year imo.
honestly, I respect all winners. but tbh I get less excited when someone from all stars won. bcuz almost every one gets casted tbh. and there's more and more winners. when a queen gets casted on all stars it's not surprising at all. it's not rare. I do agree having a two year cycle.
with 15 and 16 the cast would be season 13 kandy muse lala ri denali season 14 kornbread bosco lady camden season 15 anetra maylsia mistress season 16 sappria cristal xunami muse and plane jane
sorry but this is kinda a weird (?) comment but. Tbh, im not super into drag race but i enjoyed it and especially watching your video. Power rankings, hypothetical ending, etc. because you made good points and its nice to hear your voice. Thank you for keep making these videos!
I used the All Stars Simulator App and both Ginger Minj and Shea Couleé won their respective seasons. I gagged AS2 top 4: Ginger, Alaska, Katya and Courtney AS3 top 4: Shea, Mo Heart, Jan and Trinity 12 episodes: variety show, rusical, acting, ball, snatch game, singing, game within a game, improv, makeover, comedy, rumix+finale, reunion.
Great hypothesis, love the concept. Theme editions could make a great TV, just like All Stars 7. Personally, I would love to see all the international judges compete in front of RuPaul; Pangina, Nicki, Brooke, Jiggly, Mamaw Pao, Carmen, Fred etc. Other editions include -Olympic of Drag (Each country/franchise sends a representative) -International Winners -RuPaul's all-time fav (make it harder for her to eliminate) -Miss Congeniality -Villains (strong personalities) -fan-favourites (votes by the fandom)
Honestly i think this would have been very interested. There would definitely have been much more hype with each All Stars season with this type of format. I will say it's a shame that some iconic queens from older seasons never would get their All Stars moment, but that could very well be dealt with in one of those thematic seasons you mention
The change to Miss Congeniality was because season 10's voting system was hacked and The Vixen was leading by a MASSIVE amount. They changed it to the cast voting because of it and kept it ever since.
i think that they should have it every 2 years because as more seasons are made, there is more competition for spots on an all stars season. like they should also have 12 every time not 10, that’s too little imo
My Opinion: All Stars 1: Nina Flowers Jade Raven Pandora Boxx Sahara Davenport Delta Work Manila Luzon Alexis Mateo Latrice Royale Phi Phi O'hara Willam Chad Michaels All Stars 2: Shannell Tammie Brown Jujubee Tatianna Yara Sofia Mimi Imfurst Milan Kenya Michaels Detox Honey Mahogany Adore Delano Vivacious All Stars 3: Victoria Porkchop Parker Morgan McMichaels Mariah Shangela Roxxxy Andrews Alaska Thunderfuck 5000 Trixie Mattel Jasmine Masters Dax ! Thorgy Thor Aja Kimora Black All Stars 4: Ongina Mystique Summers Madison Dida Ritz Ivy Winters Serena Cha Cha Courtney Act Pearl Miss fame Kim Chi Cynthia Lee Fontaine Eureka Blaire St. Claire All Stars 5: Jessica Wild Sonique India Farrah Jiggly Caliente Vivienne Pinay Ben De La Creme Darienne Lake Ginger Minj Max Naysha Lopez Laila Mcqueen Vanessa Vangie Mateo All Stars 6: Akashia Stacey layne Matthews Leshauwn Beyond Alyssa Edwards Coco Montrese Monica Beaverly Hillz Milk Mrs. Kasha Davis Robbie Turner Acid Betty Charlie Hides Yuhua Hamasaki All Stars 7: Jade Jolie Lineysha Sparx Laganja Estranja Gia Gunn Sasha Belle Chi Chi Devayne Farrah Moan Peppermint Dusty Ray Bottoms Silky Nutmeg Ganache Kahanna Montrese Nicky Doll All Stars 8: April Carrión Kelly Mantle Kandy Ho Naomi Smalls Jaymes Mansfield Asia O'hara Merecedes Iman Diamond Nina West Jan Rock M. Sakura Crystal Methyd Tamisha Iman All Stars 9: Madame laQueer Josylin Fox Trinity K. Bonet Tempest Dejour Derrick Barry Alexis Michelle Shea Coulee The Vixen Kalorie Karbdashian Williams A'keria C. Davenport Utica Queen Kandy Muse All Stars 10: Kennedy Davenport Katya Trinity Taylor Kameron Michaels Monet X'Change Shuga Cain Widow Von Du Gigi Goode Joey Jay Lala Ri Bosco Kornbread All Stars 11: Jaidynn Diore Fierce Nina Bonina Brown Valentina Mayhem Miller Brooke Lynn Hytes Plastique Tiara Ra'jah O'hara Brita Elliott With 2 Ts Kerry Colby Deja Skye Daya Betty All Stars 12: Miz Cracker Monique Heart Ariel Versace Scarlet Envy Honey Davenport Aiden Zhane Hiedi N Closet Gottmik Rosè Olivia Lux Tina Burner Angeria Paris VanMichaels Jorgeous All Stars 13: Rebecca Glasscock Nicole Paige Brookes Phoenix The Princess Magnolia Crawford Soju Dhalia Sin Sherry Pie Denali Jasmine Kennedy Lady Camden Maddy Morphosis All Winners: Bebe Zahra Benet Raja Jinkx Monsoon Bianca Del Rio Violet Chachki Bob The Drag Queen Sasha Velour Aquaria Yvie Oddly Ja'dah Essence Hall Symone Willow Pill
This is fun but I don't think I like this format of only picking 3 from each season and moving on. It leaves out SO many strong competitors from each season.
I personally think all stars 6 had great casting because of the diverse competitors. When it's only powerhouse queens, it's incredibly easy to lose out on good competitors. With the "glow up" format, it gives queens like Kylie and Rajah the chance to show their talents that they never had on their original season. There's definitely an excitement of seeing the best of the best competing, but I think it's more exciting to see people rise above your expectations of them than the best of the best queens flopping in challenges and/or being eliminated too soon and looking worse than their original season
I think the casts you presented are strong and would make for great seasons overall HOWEVER with this casting there're a couple of problems 1. It pressures queen from every 4th season to go back immediately. Sure in some cases that works (Monet, Chad, Mo, Aja) but for some it doesn't (Jan, Latrice and somewhat Ginger, Silky and A'keria), which brings it to my next point 2. It only gives a single opportunity, which means if there's unfortunate timing with something like Queen's health or their finance and they just can't afford it. With the current format Queen can comeback next year, or year after that. With this a Queen can't ever comeback. 3. It makes casting predictable. Yes I know spoilers subreddits exist but honestly if every season was cast this way you'd knew 1/3 of the cast upfront, 1/3 would be very obvious and the last 1/3 could be guessed based on the pattern. Sure, right now its a gamble and with AS1 picking its more consistent, but if AS5 taught us anything: Predictable might be the worst an All stars season can become 4. Its just unreasonable. Sure, if you pressure them into making this their only opportunity for All stars there is a higher chance they will accept, but honestly I don't think Ivy, Nina or Heidi would comeback if they were asked. Ivy maybe, but since Nina and Heidi could've both been on AS6 AND THEY WEREN'T its possible they wouldn't accept the invite if for AS3 of this cast. I just think the actual casts would be: 2-3 miss cucus, runner ups from 4 seasons 2-3 "good competitor/good tv" a then you would still have to fill the rest with Mimis, Jasmines or Serenas. And even then that a very optimistic estimate. I don't hate this idea I just think it would really limit a scope of what an all stars can be And if all stars 6 can be the best (imo) all stars season while having Serena Cha Cha on it, I just don't think it really matters if everyone is an all star on a cast to be a great season
I honestly think they should have alternating themes. I think you could have for example. 1 year Runner-ups, so mostly people that could have easily won but didn't, next year an Early Outs 14th-9th place, after that a fan favorite, where you could have a pre season were the audience voter for like 20 queens and then they have to conpete in 1 challege, a talent show, to secure their spot in the season, and finally the 4th year you would rotate between queen of all queens or Vs the world in order to make these 2 more special. I also think you should just have 1 judging skill for each that doesn't change, ex Queen of all queens is always the stars, the way they are given/blocked or who knows stolen/taken could change, early outs could be like a regular season where Ru chooses everything, runner ups could be the lip sync assassin with only one top, but the twist is that the top girl has to choose who they want to eliminate and then she has to lipsync against the girl she wants to send home, if she wins she gets 10k and the other girl gets the boot but if she looses the other girl gets the 10k and immunity from the vote and the girl most voted my the group goes home (this would be awesome cause if every girl voted for 1 girl to go home but that girl wins the lipsync, her vote is the only on that matters meaning she could send home the girl that won the episode), VS the World could be the classic top 2 and fan favorites could be a live hibrid show, where challenges like snach game are filmed and then shown in live show where you see the runways and then the people vote on who wins, who is safe and the bottom 2 lip sync and then the people choose who to save. Edit: Sorry for the mess I'm very dyslexic, but one last thing Runner-ups seasons and VS the World need to be very competitive so there really should be a cap for the participation of only girls with 2 or more wins and that were at least in the top 6 once in a season of 12 girls or more or top 4 in a season of 10 girls, also I feel like girls should only be able to compete 3 times, 1st would be the regular reason, secondly fan favorite/runner ups/early outs and then VS The World or Queen of All Queens. Also plz stop the returning queen thing, let them just go to a 2nd go season (runner ups/early outs/fan favorites). And also take the winner out of the Alls stars except queen of all queens. 2nd Edit: So that people aren't like, but My fave won season X and in this way they wouldn't even be cast, that is most likely not true exp. AS1 - Chad would be on a Runner-up season AS2 - Alaska would be on a Runner Up season AS3 - Trixie would be on a Fan favorite season AS4 - Trinity would be on a Runner up season & Monét would be in a Fan favorite season AS5 - Shea would be on a Runner Up season AS6 - Soneque would be on an Early Outs season/ Fan Favorite Like the idea is many girls regardless of their regular seasons deserve a second go at it, but putting everyone in a general all stars season justs creates a diluted identity, are we all all stars, or some stars or maybe stars? Like 2 examples I would like to use are Silky and Maryah. Maryah was someone that could have been cast on an Early Outs or Fan Favorite season where she would be surrounded by girls that like her were incredibly talemted but couldn't show that on their original seasons because of a number of reasons, this would create an even playing field for fan attention and devotion where people that alreasy love maryah would obviously root for her, but many more fans, that tend to like the girls with big track records would be open to the ideia of becoming her fan and root for her. What happened to Maryah was that she was cast in AS5 with Shea, a clear favorite and Runner Up (if not the winner of S9 if the format didn't change) and Miz Cracker and Jujubee obvious Fan Favorites, she ended up not being able to shine as much as she deserved (especially considering how incredible her talent show was). Even the inclusion of Alexis who had beaten her in the regular season and was a shoe in for a Runner Up season shows that this was flawed. Silky on the other hand being someone meant to be in a Runner Up season was put in a season with a lot of girls that could easily have been in fan favorite or early out seasons, including a girl she originally beat Rajah. Her early elimination only served to discredit her original spot with people clowing on her. If not for the lip sync smack down she would be consistently disregarded from then on which was what kind of happened to A'keria. By seperating queen in their second go you could have each on of them shine in their on way and if they win they become elegible to participate in all winners in order to prove that the style of all stars they participated in is not inferior in any way.
Hi from 2025! I think on this universe's AS4 it would probably be: 13: Kandy (almost won), LaLa (Miss Con), Denali (good TV/story/strong competitor) 14: Camden, Kornbread, Bosco 15: Luxx, Malaysia, Mistress 16: Sapphira, Morphine maybe Xunami but idk we could put some random queen on as a wild card because Sapphira fills both the almost won and Miss Con boxes What does everyone else think?
I think an important category when casting is also the one where the queen comes back for some kind of re(Ru)demption, I mean, most of them do but some more than others!
For me , An All stars season should be filmed and Aired every 2 or 3 years If all stars was made Every 4 years, Some queens like Sonique, Rajah or indiah couldn't be casted, But Airing some stars seasons Every year gives the opportunity to Big names of the franchise to decline The invitation to the show...
Possible storylines missed out on the hypothetical AS2-AS3 cast: Adore-Cynthia possible friendship (latin queens sticking together in a way) the singing showdown between Adore-Courtney-Ivy-Cynthia (even Alaska) Katya and Courtney's friendship, pretty sure they are already good friends before season 8 starts airing (and the amount of stories between Katya and Courtney is something else) Eureka-Trinity storyline, if they will exploit that again Brooke-Nina friendship (and possible romantic issues with Vanjie) Vanjie and the season 10 girls the pageant queens in Trinity and Brooke Lynn Shea-Monet-Monique-Heidi working together
I don’t want All Stars season to be less frequent, but to be honest, it feels like MANY strong queens don’t to be part of it anymore because they already got herses lmao, imagine a cast with Peppermint, Asia O’Hara, Cameron Michaels and GIGI GOODE… it has been some stars since All Stars 3
This is the perfect video I was hoping someone would make! The idea of not even casting anyone from the four seasons before was something I didn’t even think about! Nevermind having 12 queens! Although All Stars seasons are now 12 episodes long, I think they’ve gotten better with having a mix of early outs and runners up with the larger casts. I do miss the smaller and shorter 10-queen seasons, though, as I think the season should just focus on doing certain challenges and moving on. If runners up become less available because of their success outside of drag race, I’m scared we’ll end up with a more frequent Season 4 and 6 syndrome: only 2 runners up at most per All Stars season (and 1 of them is a re-do) (or worse, NO runners up like Season 3, and they’ll just throw Bebe in to get voted off the island yet again. Only this time they’ll throw in, I don’t know, Pangina, to send her crying after the jury vote yet again.)
I do think making themed All-Stars would make its frequency much more palatable. Just look at Survivor, for example, where true all-stars seasons are instantly iconic either for its theme (Second Chance, Heroes vs. Villains) or for its questionable casting under the theme (Game Changers), and in that sense, those seasons are immediately memorable, and it doesn't feel like its lost its touch. But then again, Drag Race tried to copy Survivor with a voting system and well... maybe it shouldn't do that again, lmao
A few All Star season ideas that I think would be cool RuPaul’s Drag Race: 3rd times the charm (A season that is only filled with queens who have competed 2 times.) RuPaul’s Drag Race: All Stars Vs New Stars (7 former competitors competing against 7 first time competitors) RuPaul’s Drag Race: Blood Vs Water (Another teams season, however this time the queens choose their teammates prior to competing, and halfway through the season, they’re disbanded.) RuPaul’s Drag Race: Rivals (Queens compete against their rivals from either outside of the show, or in the show.) RuPaul’s Drag Race: Level up (This one is more complex. A smaller cast of queens, however each queen starts off with 3 lives. During the Lip sync for your legacy, instead of a lip stick sending a queen home, it removes a life. Once a queen runs out of lives, they are eliminated. Queens have the option to donate one of their lives to a queen, if they want to. A queen can earn lives back by spinning a wheel if they win a lip sync, Half the slots are filled with life wins, and the other half are filled with nothing. however they can only spin it if they have less than three lives. If we don’t have a final for by the end of the season, then the people with the most lives will move on to the finale.)
One season idea that I’ve had for a while is RuPaul’s Drag Race Fans Vs Favorites. Obviously it wouldn’t be an All Star Season, but just imagine. 7 Fan favorite contestants competing against 7 drag queen fans of the show. It would also give some older season queens, or queens who didn’t make the finale the first time, to have a live finale, rather than one in the studio
See I think the all winners format should be continued for future all stars season because a smaller cast just works better and all they'd need to do is tweak how the distribution of stars work. Like 2 if you win the top 2 lip sync and 1 if you just end up in the top 2. As for a themed season, I think it would be kinda cool to bring back an entire previous seasons cast (that hasnt had any winners in an all stars season) and cast the winner as a main judge for that season as they redo like season 2 (well maybe not season 2) or 3 or 1 or 6 or 8 for example.
I don't really mind the All Stars airing frequency it's just the cast, maybe less "recently featured queens" and less of the queens that got 2nd and third chance and more of a diverse cast maybe more early outs, more people who weren't top6 and upwards.... or have it themed like the all winners (miss cucu, first outs, frenemies.....)
Hi! Small correction but the actual reason why the queen votes for Ms. C isn’t because of Valentina, it’s because the voting got hacked and Vixen was on top
I think i value All Stars winners more on their archetypes/what they represent, rather than by a ficticious hallway*. Because All Stars has a more buffoonery-focus than regular season (or at least used to), i think i see it more as like; You Will never be a winner, but the show has recognised your work on the show, given you an archetype and this fame now do you want to see if the archetype is strong enough to win some coin? So i don't think of Chad (legend done dirty by production), Alaska (amazing on and off the show who just didn't have enough x-factor the first time), Trixie (ate shit the first time but had the bare bones and work ethic to truly transcend the show), Monétity (lovely icon
The money is the money and Rupauld need it for retirement… Season 2 of All Stars for us (people who followed in that years) break the mold. They eliminated each other for the first time, we know who we wanted to be there, everything was almost perfect. Now all stars are something to earn money and nothing more.
I think a fun theme would be robbed queens, perhaps with some controversial winners thrown in. It would consist of any of the following: Nina Flowers, Ongina*, Raven, Jujubee, Manilla, Alexis Mateo, Latrice?, Roxxxy Andrews*, Detox, Adore, Kennedy*, Katya, Ginger*, Naomi Smalls, Acid Betty?, Peppermint?, Eureka, Asia O'Hara, Brooke Lynn Hytes, Akeria Davenport, Gigi Goode, Crystal Methyd, Jackie Cox?, Rosé, Kandy Muse, Gotmik and I haven't watched S14 yet, to represent the main series. Channel, Tatiana?, Shangela, Aja?, Mo, Miz Cracker*, Rajah O'Hara would be added for All Stars as well as some international queens and Pangina, Jumbo and whoever else was robbed on UK vs The World. You would then add Raja* for favoritism, Violet, Sasha Velour, Yvie and Jaida* for getting less challenge wins than other queens, Aquaria for that fall during the lipsync for the crown, And basically all All Stars Winners for stupid twists, unfair eliminations or plain favoritism. * notes that a queen did well on their original season but has fallen out of favour due to a middling All Stars run or afterwards. It's also added to queens that justified their win on AS7 (didn't get to watch it yet so don't get mad Yvie doesn't have one) or elsewhere (the clear favoritism shown to Gigi) ? Is for queens who may not have actually had a chance at winning but made it far and are beloved or were unjustly eliminated too soon I also didn't include queens Wow would never invite or those who would never come on the show again
I would hate, hate, HATE that All Stars 2 cast. Because my heart would have been broken every week. I think we can all pretty much agree that Cynthia is the obvious first-out, but after her, everyone could do stellar and I'd be devastated to see them leave one by one. I'd be sad to see Cynthia leave too, but I'd be expecting it at least
I like the idea of this, but I'd like to change it somewhat. I'll keep the idea of All Stars every 4 Years, however not having any Queen competing back to back so they have time to grow. Instead, one group of three comprised of older seasons as well as starting hypothetical season 3 we will get 2 former all star competitors. Hypothetical All Stars S2 - Alaska, S5 - Roxxy Andrews, S5 - Detox, S5 - Adore, S6 - Gia Gunn, S6 - Bendelacreme, S6 - Katya, S7 - Trixie Mattel, S7 - Ginger Minj, S6 - Tatiana, S2 - Shangela, S2 & S3 - Phi Phi O'Hara, S4 Hypothetical All Stars S3 - Naomi Smalls, S8 - Chichi Devayne, S8 - Thorgy, S8 - Aja, S9 - Trinity, S9 - Shea, S9 - Monet X Change, S10 - Monique Heart, S10 - Miz Cracker, S10 - Kennedy Davenport, S7 - Alyssa Edwards, S5 - Coco Montrese, S5 - Manila Luzon, S3 AS1 - Latrice, S4 AS1 Hypothetical All Stars S4 - Akeria, S11 - Silky, S11 - Kahana Montrese, S11 - Jan, S12 - Widow Von'Du, S12 - Jackie Cox, S12 - Kandy Muse, S13 - Rosé, S13 - Tamisha Iman, S13 - Lady Camden, S14 - Deja Skye, S14 - Jorgeous, S14 - Eureka, S9 S10 - Valentina S9 - Ongina, S1 - Pandora Boxx, S2 AS1 - Jujubee, S2 AS1
Mimi still would've been on all stars 1 and phi phi was supposed to be on there too. That's why willam didn't come back because they told her there would be no storyline for her since phi phi wasn't coming anymore.
Ooooh I love the ideas for these seasons. If I may ask, could I make what if videos based on these all stars casts? I will credit you and link your video in the description.
The original idea was to have Phi Phi and Willam on. But Phi Phi had some legal issues going on and could not participate, so they cut Willam last minute too because they thought she would not have a story with anyone
I remember reading that story about Phi Phi after I'd made that original video in 2019 (but since it's legal issues I didn't want to make it, let's say, a point in this video), but I've been wondering ever since who was going to get cut.
Mimi confirmed that Latrice knew even before her that she was on the season, so Chad? But AS1 was made for Chad to win, so Tammie? The more we learn about the season the sloppier it gets.
@@uckeylee I think they would have chosen 4 queens from season 4. It was the breakout season, also the most recent season and in the fan vote the most requested queen was Sharon Needles, also a season 4 queen.
I believe they would have just had 2 queens from the first season, since Rebecca quit drag, Ongina declined and there only being one queen left that's a good choice to cast (for being good TV though... Not as a strong competitor)
@@Max-oi4it Most probably, yeah, but it does make it very imbalanced, especially with the pairs twist. That's why I like the last version of the cast before the official one we got in the end.
Just cut Tammie since Nina basically takes 2 spots from season 1
IMAGINE ALASKA'S REACTION IF SHE WERE SENT HOME BY NAOMI SMALLS 😭😭😭 LIFE'S NOT FAIR!!!
she would cry and curse so much lmao
Naomi “Small” lmao
Lol
I cannot stop laughing 😂
She wouldn’t have left she would stay until security came😭
If Naomi ended up Manila-ing Alaska on the makeover episode I think I’d actually die
Naomi would do what Katya couldn't 🤣party
@@BuoyBlaise Didn't Katya lose the lip sync in that episode?
@@spawn3721 ye but she was trolling Alaska into thinking she'd be choosing her lipstick. when Alaska wept in front of her and she just said "party" loool
Theres absolutely no way they would of had All Stars 2 without Roxxxy Andrews. The producers loved her and she was a huge villain at that moment in time
Roxxxy was worth keeping on AS2 just for her runways every week
Personally I’d love to see a design/fashion centric season with queens like Rajah, Utica or Crystal Methyd
Oh I've been talking about that idea for a while now. I'd also add Miss Fame, Acid Betty, Manila, Naomi, KimChi, Lineysha Sparx (I can't remember if she was great at sewing, I just remember her runways being incredible)...
@@uckeylee imagine they did it similar to a show like Netflix's Next in Fashion.
I WOULD DIIIIIE😍
Throw in Miss Thick and Juicy, she’ll give us what we like.
each week they either design a single outfit, a ball, or an entire collection based on the theme.
and then you have notable designers, especially drag designers like Florence Dlee or Lady Hyde coming in as guest judges.
you really tried sneaking crystal in there
Also a note: they changed the MC voting system almost last minute before s10 finale, they still kept it for fans to pick at the first place but people started using bots and sending millions of votes for Kalorie Karbdashian Williams ☠️
Justice for Vixen Bot!
I thought it was for the vixen?
It was between two of them I think
oh that's right! I blocked that out...
it wasnt for kalorie it was for vixen
I love the idea of a medical outs season, COME THROUGH RUPAULS HOSPITAL RACE!
Racers, start your wheelchairs, and may the best drag queen LIVE!
@@VelvetCondoms now, im giving you 15 minutes to get in to quick drag and you’ll be working those crutches in a medical maude photoshoot
Werk
mental health included...
takes “lip sync for your life” to a new meaning
These casts are mouth-watering tbh, I'd pay to see videos on these fantasy seasons
yes, i love the idea of having "all stars" seasons every year, but intercalating a normal season with a thematic season
Imagine eureka and Trinity having another storyline like on S9
I really think that All Stars must be all 2/3 years to have a good casting and not being bored of it
Agree 100%, every year lowers it's value & cheapens the crown
actually the reason why Miss Congeniality was changed from an audience vote to the queens voting was not the Season 9 reunion fiasco, it was the fact that in season 10 someone hacked the system and sent an enormous amount of votes for The Vixen (as a joke since she wasn’t shown as Congenial during the season)
I love this idea. I think we may be approaching once again to an AS season with a strong cast, with many queens available from seasons 12, 13 and 14, plus additional strong contenders from previous seasons that haven't been invited yet
I think ultimately the title of being an "All-Star" hasn't completely lost its value yet, but given the oversaturation that Drag Race is being consumed by year after year, it would be nice for All Stars to get a break once in a while. I also think that the value of being an All Star ties nicely in a way with the points in the video where you broke down how beating the twists is why each queen won their seasons, especially for the AS Winners. In general, less production meddling would really help All Stars as a franchise....but it is still clear they haven't learned their lesson and I'm getting tired of it.
OMG PLEASE DO WHAT IF VIDEOS WITH THESE CASTS
Honestly I like that every queen gets a chance to come back on all stars, I would love to see everybody come back eventually. Kylie is the prime example that even an early out from an early season can come back and win the competition. All stars 6 is the best AS season for me largely because of its casting and how it allowed us to see queens we didn't expect destroy the competition
Now that season 15 is over here’s the three queens: Anetra (as the queen who almost won) Maylsia Babydoll Fox (Miss cucu) and Loosey Laduca (as the good TV queen who made it far) I can also see Mistress, but I have to show Loosey some love. *edit* now for season 16 finally a full cast. Sapphira, Xunami & Pane Jane.
I would go for Mistress given Malaysia's presence in the season. That would allow both of them to have some stakes on the season
POV you are back 2 years later to add your Picks for the All-Stars 4 Cast from season 15 & 16
Along Side Rose, Lala, Denali, Camden, Kornbread & Bosco, I would add:
From Season 15: MIB, Malaysia, Loosey.
And from Seson 16: Sapphira, Xunami, Plane.
I originaly wanted to add Anetra for season 15, But MIB would be great tv and the history of drama with Loosey, and atm past drama with Malaysia would help out with the pickings not feeling so random.
And for season 16, we have two Congenialitys to fill the spot, but Lucky, Sappira was also a finalist and could have won, so she can be placed into that spot, and just because, I again originally wanted to add Q to see MIB possably gaslight her and read hr, but I thinkthat the Pairing of Sister Jane and Sister MIB would be killer, not to chose.
in conclusion the cast that I personaly see for this hypothetical all-stars 4 would be:
Lala Ri, Denali, Rose, Konbread Jete, Bosco, Lady Camden, Malaysia Babydoll Fox, Mistress Isabelle Brooks, Loosey LaDuca, Plane Jane, Sapphira Cristal, & Xunami Muse.
how i feel the international seasons of all stars would be cast due to this:
Uk:
season 1: Divina, Blu and Baga
season 2: Bimini, Asttina and Awhora
season 3: Anubis, Ella and Choriza
Canada:
season 1: Rita, Jimbo and Tynomi
season 2: Pythia, Suki and Eve
France: Soa, Elypse and Kam
Down Under: Anita, Etcetera and Art
Italy: Luquisha, Farida and Enorma
Holland:
season 1: Janey, Mama Queen and Abby
season 2: Keta, Puny and Tabitha
Great thoughts! You pulled me down the rabbit hole so i'll just do Spain and Thailand:
Thailand:
S1: Année, B Ella and Dearis
S2: Kandy, Maya and Kana
Spain:
S1: Sagittaria, Pupi and Arantxa
S2: Venedita, Samantha and Sethlas
@@jeppeaksrensen8316 i would change pupi with hugaceo
@@criistia.n1759 Agreed but Pupi is miss Cucu so she is there automatically :) But we're also seriously spoiled for choice when it comes to great queens on España.
UK 1: Probably Top 3 would be Bimini, Ella Vaday and Awhora or Baga. (With season 2 or 3 girls winning)
Canadá: Probably Top 3 being Jimbo, Pythia and Kendall Gender or Gia Metric.
So I would imagine season 15 would be Anitra, Malaysia, and Mistress or maybe Loosey. But it's gotta be Mistress.
This video helps us see where the show really peaked. It is kinda sad to see it has not had the same it factor since it moved to VH1. On the other hand, it is actually amazing we are still talking about (and craving) the queens who did not benefit from major online exposure back in their season.
the spice girls proverb had me smiling like a mad man
Yeah, I agree that All Stars season lost its meaning after AS2, but I don't think that's a bad thing. I mean, the main problems with the late seasons are either bad challenges (AS5), bad twists (AS3 and 4), or the editing and judging is all over the place (AS7). The only season I belive had a kind of meh cast was AS5
All the cast of AS2 and AS1 were iconic.
The other All Stars seasons had SOME iconic queens. That’s why they should do an All Stars season every 4 year imo.
i mean i think for season 14 the person who made the best tv is Daya and not bosco but whatever lol
honestly, I respect all winners. but tbh I get less excited when someone from all stars won. bcuz almost every one gets casted tbh. and there's more and more winners. when a queen gets casted on all stars it's not surprising at all. it's not rare. I do agree having a two year cycle.
15: Anetra, Malaysia, Luxx. 16: Sapphira, Xunami, Mirage would be IT but prolly Plane or Morphine
I can see why the abundance of all stars is a problem for you but in my opinion more queens getting more exposure through all stars is a net positive.
That hypothetical All Stars 2 is so so incredible holy cow
with 15 and 16 the cast would be
season 13 kandy muse lala ri denali
season 14 kornbread bosco lady camden
season 15 anetra maylsia mistress
season 16 sappria cristal xunami muse and plane jane
This idea was really fun😁😁. Loved the video, keep it up!!
I love this video so much!!! If you have the time please do them as their own video and how you think they would pan out
I died when you edited in the I'm not doing it after Ivy 🤣
For season 15 I'd say: Anetra, Mistress and Malaysia
For season 16 I'd say: Saphira, Plane and Morphine or Amanda
All Stars 2’s cast is just so good I wouldn’t replace anything
sorry but this is kinda a weird (?) comment but. Tbh, im not super into drag race but i enjoyed it and especially watching your video. Power rankings, hypothetical ending, etc. because you made good points and its nice to hear your voice.
Thank you for keep making these videos!
I love how you set the rematch of Eureka and Trinity and didn’t even notice.
I used the All Stars Simulator App and both Ginger Minj and Shea Couleé won their respective seasons. I gagged
AS2 top 4: Ginger, Alaska, Katya and Courtney
AS3 top 4: Shea, Mo Heart, Jan and Trinity
12 episodes: variety show, rusical, acting, ball, snatch game, singing, game within a game, improv, makeover, comedy, rumix+finale, reunion.
Great hypothesis, love the concept. Theme editions could make a great TV, just like All Stars 7. Personally, I would love to see all the international judges compete in front of RuPaul; Pangina, Nicki, Brooke, Jiggly, Mamaw Pao, Carmen, Fred etc.
Other editions include
-Olympic of Drag (Each country/franchise sends a representative)
-International Winners
-RuPaul's all-time fav (make it harder for her to eliminate)
-Miss Congeniality
-Villains (strong personalities)
-fan-favourites (votes by the fandom)
yes please, inject these seasons into my veins
Ahhh that saying is so nostalgic... gives me chills and fond memories listening to Spice Girls TOO MUCH 💓 thank you dear x
Honestly i think this would have been very interested. There would definitely have been much more hype with each All Stars season with this type of format. I will say it's a shame that some iconic queens from older seasons never would get their All Stars moment, but that could very well be dealt with in one of those thematic seasons you mention
I love how easy to watch ur videos are- unlike other creators who release 46 min long essays
Well here is the video I never updated 🤭 the idea of 4 season for each all stars is something I always thought it would be so waiting for many people.
Yesssss I’ve been wanting this for so long
This was really fun!
I think alaska would be manila'd and dela would win and probably never land in the btm so there wouldnt be the oppurtunity to pangina her
Okay but the Alyssa Kennedy and Chi Chi´s lipsync is beyond everthing else, that wouldve been A MOMENT
I’d watch tf out of these seasons.
It's so funny that Tammie Brown doesn't fit into any of the three categories. She truly is one of the only wildcards on All Stars.
The change to Miss Congeniality was because season 10's voting system was hacked and The Vixen was leading by a MASSIVE amount. They changed it to the cast voting because of it and kept it ever since.
i think that they should have it every 2 years because as more seasons are made, there is more competition for spots on an all stars season. like they should also have 12 every time not 10, that’s too little imo
And now, create the ENTIRE track record of each one :D
My Opinion:
All Stars 1:
Nina Flowers
Jade
Raven
Pandora Boxx
Sahara Davenport
Delta Work
Manila Luzon
Alexis Mateo
Latrice Royale
Phi Phi O'hara
Willam
Chad Michaels
All Stars 2:
Shannell
Tammie Brown
Jujubee
Tatianna
Yara Sofia
Mimi Imfurst
Milan
Kenya Michaels
Detox
Honey Mahogany
Adore Delano
Vivacious
All Stars 3:
Victoria Porkchop Parker
Morgan McMichaels
Mariah
Shangela
Roxxxy Andrews
Alaska Thunderfuck 5000
Trixie Mattel
Jasmine Masters
Dax !
Thorgy Thor
Aja
Kimora Black
All Stars 4:
Ongina
Mystique Summers Madison
Dida Ritz
Ivy Winters
Serena Cha Cha
Courtney Act
Pearl
Miss fame
Kim Chi
Cynthia Lee Fontaine
Eureka
Blaire St. Claire
All Stars 5:
Jessica Wild
Sonique
India Farrah
Jiggly Caliente
Vivienne Pinay
Ben De La Creme
Darienne Lake
Ginger Minj
Max
Naysha Lopez
Laila Mcqueen
Vanessa Vangie Mateo
All Stars 6:
Akashia
Stacey layne Matthews
Leshauwn Beyond
Alyssa Edwards
Coco Montrese
Monica Beaverly Hillz
Milk
Mrs. Kasha Davis
Robbie Turner
Acid Betty
Charlie Hides
Yuhua Hamasaki
All Stars 7:
Jade Jolie
Lineysha Sparx
Laganja Estranja
Gia Gunn
Sasha Belle
Chi Chi Devayne
Farrah Moan
Peppermint
Dusty Ray Bottoms
Silky Nutmeg Ganache
Kahanna Montrese
Nicky Doll
All Stars 8:
April Carrión
Kelly Mantle
Kandy Ho
Naomi Smalls
Jaymes Mansfield
Asia O'hara
Merecedes Iman Diamond
Nina West
Jan
Rock M. Sakura
Crystal Methyd
Tamisha Iman
All Stars 9:
Madame laQueer
Josylin Fox
Trinity K. Bonet
Tempest Dejour
Derrick Barry
Alexis Michelle
Shea Coulee
The Vixen
Kalorie Karbdashian Williams
A'keria C. Davenport
Utica Queen
Kandy Muse
All Stars 10:
Kennedy Davenport
Katya
Trinity Taylor
Kameron Michaels
Monet X'Change
Shuga Cain
Widow Von Du
Gigi Goode
Joey Jay
Lala Ri
Bosco
Kornbread
All Stars 11:
Jaidynn Diore Fierce
Nina Bonina Brown
Valentina
Mayhem Miller
Brooke Lynn Hytes
Plastique Tiara
Ra'jah O'hara
Brita
Elliott With 2 Ts
Kerry Colby
Deja Skye
Daya Betty
All Stars 12:
Miz Cracker
Monique Heart
Ariel Versace
Scarlet Envy
Honey Davenport
Aiden Zhane
Hiedi N Closet
Gottmik
Rosè
Olivia Lux
Tina Burner
Angeria Paris VanMichaels
Jorgeous
All Stars 13:
Rebecca Glasscock
Nicole Paige Brookes
Phoenix
The Princess
Magnolia Crawford
Soju
Dhalia Sin
Sherry Pie
Denali
Jasmine Kennedy
Lady Camden
Maddy Morphosis
All Winners:
Bebe Zahra Benet
Raja
Jinkx Monsoon
Bianca Del Rio
Violet Chachki
Bob The Drag Queen
Sasha Velour
Aquaria
Yvie Oddly
Ja'dah Essence Hall
Symone
Willow Pill
This is fun but I don't think I like this format of only picking 3 from each season and moving on. It leaves out SO many strong competitors from each season.
I personally think all stars 6 had great casting because of the diverse competitors. When it's only powerhouse queens, it's incredibly easy to lose out on good competitors. With the "glow up" format, it gives queens like Kylie and Rajah the chance to show their talents that they never had on their original season. There's definitely an excitement of seeing the best of the best competing, but I think it's more exciting to see people rise above your expectations of them than the best of the best queens flopping in challenges and/or being eliminated too soon and looking worse than their original season
Idk if you saw my original comment but i suggested something like this years ago, loved the video
That spice girls joke was gold!
I think the casts you presented are strong and would make for great seasons overall HOWEVER with this casting there're a couple of problems
1. It pressures queen from every 4th season to go back immediately. Sure in some cases that works (Monet, Chad, Mo, Aja) but for some it doesn't (Jan, Latrice and somewhat Ginger, Silky and A'keria), which brings it to my next point
2. It only gives a single opportunity, which means if there's unfortunate timing with something like Queen's health or their finance and they just can't afford it. With the current format Queen can comeback next year, or year after that. With this a Queen can't ever comeback.
3. It makes casting predictable. Yes I know spoilers subreddits exist but honestly if every season was cast this way you'd knew 1/3 of the cast upfront, 1/3 would be very obvious and the last 1/3 could be guessed based on the pattern. Sure, right now its a gamble and with AS1 picking its more consistent, but if AS5 taught us anything: Predictable might be the worst an All stars season can become
4. Its just unreasonable. Sure, if you pressure them into making this their only opportunity for All stars there is a higher chance they will accept, but honestly I don't think Ivy, Nina or Heidi would comeback if they were asked. Ivy maybe, but since Nina and Heidi could've both been on AS6 AND THEY WEREN'T its possible they wouldn't accept the invite if for AS3 of this cast. I just think the actual casts would be: 2-3 miss cucus, runner ups from 4 seasons 2-3 "good competitor/good tv" a then you would still have to fill the rest with Mimis, Jasmines or Serenas. And even then that a very optimistic estimate.
I don't hate this idea I just think it would really limit a scope of what an all stars can be
And if all stars 6 can be the best (imo) all stars season while having Serena Cha Cha on it, I just don't think it really matters if everyone is an all star on a cast to be a great season
THE SPICE GIRLS TOO MUCH REFERENCE I AM DYING
I honestly think they should have alternating themes. I think you could have for example. 1 year Runner-ups, so mostly people that could have easily won but didn't, next year an Early Outs 14th-9th place, after that a fan favorite, where you could have a pre season were the audience voter for like 20 queens and then they have to conpete in 1 challege, a talent show, to secure their spot in the season, and finally the 4th year you would rotate between queen of all queens or Vs the world in order to make these 2 more special. I also think you should just have 1 judging skill for each that doesn't change, ex Queen of all queens is always the stars, the way they are given/blocked or who knows stolen/taken could change, early outs could be like a regular season where Ru chooses everything, runner ups could be the lip sync assassin with only one top, but the twist is that the top girl has to choose who they want to eliminate and then she has to lipsync against the girl she wants to send home, if she wins she gets 10k and the other girl gets the boot but if she looses the other girl gets the 10k and immunity from the vote and the girl most voted my the group goes home (this would be awesome cause if every girl voted for 1 girl to go home but that girl wins the lipsync, her vote is the only on that matters meaning she could send home the girl that won the episode), VS the World could be the classic top 2 and fan favorites could be a live hibrid show, where challenges like snach game are filmed and then shown in live show where you see the runways and then the people vote on who wins, who is safe and the bottom 2 lip sync and then the people choose who to save.
Edit: Sorry for the mess I'm very dyslexic, but one last thing Runner-ups seasons and VS the World need to be very competitive so there really should be a cap for the participation of only girls with 2 or more wins and that were at least in the top 6 once in a season of 12 girls or more or top 4 in a season of 10 girls, also I feel like girls should only be able to compete 3 times, 1st would be the regular reason, secondly fan favorite/runner ups/early outs and then VS The World or Queen of All Queens. Also plz stop the returning queen thing, let them just go to a 2nd go season (runner ups/early outs/fan favorites). And also take the winner out of the Alls stars except queen of all queens.
2nd Edit: So that people aren't like, but My fave won season X and in this way they wouldn't even be cast, that is most likely not true exp.
AS1 - Chad would be on a Runner-up season
AS2 - Alaska would be on a Runner Up season
AS3 - Trixie would be on a Fan favorite season
AS4 - Trinity would be on a Runner up season & Monét would be in a Fan favorite season
AS5 - Shea would be on a Runner Up season
AS6 - Soneque would be on an Early Outs season/ Fan Favorite
Like the idea is many girls regardless of their regular seasons deserve a second go at it, but putting everyone in a general all stars season justs creates a diluted identity, are we all all stars, or some stars or maybe stars? Like 2 examples I would like to use are Silky and Maryah.
Maryah was someone that could have been cast on an Early Outs or Fan Favorite season where she would be surrounded by girls that like her were incredibly talemted but couldn't show that on their original seasons because of a number of reasons, this would create an even playing field for fan attention and devotion where people that alreasy love maryah would obviously root for her, but many more fans, that tend to like the girls with big track records would be open to the ideia of becoming her fan and root for her. What happened to Maryah was that she was cast in AS5 with Shea, a clear favorite and Runner Up (if not the winner of S9 if the format didn't change) and Miz Cracker and Jujubee obvious Fan Favorites, she ended up not being able to shine as much as she deserved (especially considering how incredible her talent show was). Even the inclusion of Alexis who had beaten her in the regular season and was a shoe in for a Runner Up season shows that this was flawed.
Silky on the other hand being someone meant to be in a Runner Up season was put in a season with a lot of girls that could easily have been in fan favorite or early out seasons, including a girl she originally beat Rajah. Her early elimination only served to discredit her original spot with people clowing on her. If not for the lip sync smack down she would be consistently disregarded from then on which was what kind of happened to A'keria.
By seperating queen in their second go you could have each on of them shine in their on way and if they win they become elegible to participate in all winners in order to prove that the style of all stars they participated in is not inferior in any way.
Sorry to whoever decides to read this
Hi from 2025! I think on this universe's AS4 it would probably be:
13: Kandy (almost won), LaLa (Miss Con), Denali (good TV/story/strong competitor)
14: Camden, Kornbread, Bosco
15: Luxx, Malaysia, Mistress
16: Sapphira, Morphine maybe Xunami but idk we could put some random queen on as a wild card because Sapphira fills both the almost won and Miss Con boxes
What does everyone else think?
I think an important category when casting is also the one where the queen comes back for some kind of re(Ru)demption, I mean, most of them do but some more than others!
For me , An All stars season should be filmed and Aired every 2 or 3 years
If all stars was made Every 4 years, Some queens like Sonique, Rajah or indiah couldn't be casted, But Airing some stars seasons Every year gives the opportunity to Big names of the franchise to decline The invitation to the show...
Possible storylines missed out on the hypothetical AS2-AS3 cast:
Adore-Cynthia possible friendship (latin queens sticking together in a way)
the singing showdown between Adore-Courtney-Ivy-Cynthia (even Alaska)
Katya and Courtney's friendship, pretty sure they are already good friends before season 8 starts airing (and the amount of stories between Katya and Courtney is something else)
Eureka-Trinity storyline, if they will exploit that again
Brooke-Nina friendship (and possible romantic issues with Vanjie)
Vanjie and the season 10 girls
the pageant queens in Trinity and Brooke Lynn
Shea-Monet-Monique-Heidi working together
I don’t want All Stars season to be less frequent, but to be honest, it feels like MANY strong queens don’t to be part of it anymore because they already got herses lmao, imagine a cast with Peppermint, Asia O’Hara, Cameron Michaels and GIGI GOODE… it has been some stars since All Stars 3
And then on as4 there would also be Malaysia anetra and I think Salina LOOSEY or spice
Not the ancient Greek spice girls proverb 🤣
This is the perfect video I was hoping someone would make! The idea of not even casting anyone from the four seasons before was something I didn’t even think about! Nevermind having 12 queens!
Although All Stars seasons are now 12 episodes long, I think they’ve gotten better with having a mix of early outs and runners up with the larger casts.
I do miss the smaller and shorter 10-queen seasons, though, as I think the season should just focus on doing certain challenges and moving on.
If runners up become less available because of their success outside of drag race, I’m scared we’ll end up with a more frequent Season 4 and 6 syndrome: only 2 runners up at most per All Stars season (and 1 of them is a re-do) (or worse, NO runners up like Season 3, and they’ll just throw Bebe in to get voted off the island yet again. Only this time they’ll throw in, I don’t know, Pangina, to send her crying after the jury vote yet again.)
I do think making themed All-Stars would make its frequency much more palatable. Just look at Survivor, for example, where true all-stars seasons are instantly iconic either for its theme (Second Chance, Heroes vs. Villains) or for its questionable casting under the theme (Game Changers), and in that sense, those seasons are immediately memorable, and it doesn't feel like its lost its touch.
But then again, Drag Race tried to copy Survivor with a voting system and well... maybe it shouldn't do that again, lmao
A few All Star season ideas that I think would be cool
RuPaul’s Drag Race: 3rd times the charm
(A season that is only filled with queens who have competed 2 times.)
RuPaul’s Drag Race: All Stars Vs New Stars
(7 former competitors competing against 7 first time competitors)
RuPaul’s Drag Race: Blood Vs Water
(Another teams season, however this time the queens choose their teammates prior to competing, and halfway through the season, they’re disbanded.)
RuPaul’s Drag Race: Rivals
(Queens compete against their rivals from either outside of the show, or in the show.)
RuPaul’s Drag Race: Level up
(This one is more complex. A smaller cast of queens, however each queen starts off with 3 lives. During the Lip sync for your legacy, instead of a lip stick sending a queen home, it removes a life. Once a queen runs out of lives, they are eliminated. Queens have the option to donate one of their lives to a queen, if they want to. A queen can earn lives back by spinning a wheel if they win a lip sync, Half the slots are filled with life wins, and the other half are filled with nothing. however they can only spin it if they have less than three lives. If we don’t have a final for by the end of the season, then the people with the most lives will move on to the finale.)
One season idea that I’ve had for a while is RuPaul’s Drag Race Fans Vs Favorites. Obviously it wouldn’t be an All Star Season, but just imagine. 7 Fan favorite contestants competing against 7 drag queen fans of the show. It would also give some older season queens, or queens who didn’t make the finale the first time, to have a live finale, rather than one in the studio
Also, the 7 returning queens that I would cast on this would be
Jessica Wild (Season 2: 6th)
Laganja Estranja (Season 6: 8th)
Jaidynn Diore Fierce (Season 7: 8th)
Shuga Cain (Season 11: 7th)
Jackie Cox (Season 12: 5th)
Utica Queen (Season 13: 6th)
Angeria Paris Van Michaels (Season 14: 3rd/4th/5th)
See I think the all winners format should be continued for future all stars season because a smaller cast just works better and all they'd need to do is tweak how the distribution of stars work. Like 2 if you win the top 2 lip sync and 1 if you just end up in the top 2. As for a themed season, I think it would be kinda cool to bring back an entire previous seasons cast (that hasnt had any winners in an all stars season) and cast the winner as a main judge for that season as they redo like season 2 (well maybe not season 2) or 3 or 1 or 6 or 8 for example.
Willam wasnt casted due to Jeramy not passing her background check so technically it was supposed to be 13 queens and Mimi as an alternate
I don't really mind the All Stars airing frequency it's just the cast, maybe less "recently featured queens" and less of the queens that got 2nd and third chance and more of a diverse cast maybe more early outs, more people who weren't top6 and upwards.... or have it themed like the all winners (miss cucu, first outs, frenemies.....)
Hi! Small correction but the actual reason why the queen votes for Ms. C isn’t because of Valentina, it’s because the voting got hacked and Vixen was on top
Why did they get bring Pandora back for all stars 6
I think i value All Stars winners more on their archetypes/what they represent, rather than by a ficticious hallway*. Because All Stars has a more buffoonery-focus than regular season (or at least used to), i think i see it more as like; You Will never be a winner, but the show has recognised your work on the show, given you an archetype and this fame now do you want to see if the archetype is strong enough to win some coin?
So i don't think of Chad (legend done dirty by production), Alaska (amazing on and off the show who just didn't have enough x-factor the first time), Trixie (ate shit the first time but had the bare bones and work ethic to truly transcend the show), Monétity (lovely icon
Had Mo won UK vs The World I would argue she had the best multi season story art of any queen in the entire franchise.
You can’t fool me, Uckey. Those were Spice Girls lyrics
Okay, but i need a fantasy season with these queens
I love how much you love the Spice Girls
Rosé - Lala - Denali
Camden - Kornbread - Bosco
Anetra - Malaysia - Mistress
Sapphira - Xunami - Plasma or Jane
That sounds like a roller-coaster!
I LOVE THE GREEK TRANSLATION OF THE SPICE GIRLS! Grammar is a little off but I appreciate the shoutout to Greece.
Love how ethier way season 2 has an amazing cast lol
The money is the money and Rupauld need it for retirement… Season 2 of All Stars for us (people who followed in that years) break the mold. They eliminated each other for the first time, we know who we wanted to be there, everything was almost perfect. Now all stars are something to earn money and nothing more.
I went on Google translate to get the Spice Girls reference
Now pleeeeease make the videos about how this would turn! Hahahah it would be so fun to see!
I think a fun theme would be robbed queens, perhaps with some controversial winners thrown in. It would consist of any of the following: Nina Flowers, Ongina*, Raven, Jujubee, Manilla, Alexis Mateo, Latrice?, Roxxxy Andrews*, Detox, Adore, Kennedy*, Katya, Ginger*, Naomi Smalls, Acid Betty?, Peppermint?, Eureka, Asia O'Hara, Brooke Lynn Hytes, Akeria Davenport, Gigi Goode, Crystal Methyd, Jackie Cox?, Rosé, Kandy Muse, Gotmik and I haven't watched S14 yet, to represent the main series.
Channel, Tatiana?, Shangela, Aja?, Mo, Miz Cracker*, Rajah O'Hara would be added for All Stars as well as some international queens and Pangina, Jumbo and whoever else was robbed on UK vs The World.
You would then add Raja* for favoritism, Violet, Sasha Velour, Yvie and Jaida* for getting less challenge wins than other queens, Aquaria for that fall during the lipsync for the crown, And basically all All Stars Winners for stupid twists, unfair eliminations or plain favoritism.
* notes that a queen did well on their original season but has fallen out of favour due to a middling All Stars run or afterwards. It's also added to queens that justified their win on AS7 (didn't get to watch it yet so don't get mad Yvie doesn't have one) or elsewhere (the clear favoritism shown to Gigi)
? Is for queens who may not have actually had a chance at winning but made it far and are beloved or were unjustly eliminated too soon
I also didn't include queens Wow would never invite or those who would never come on the show again
As much as I love her, I think as soon as Trixie became the winner of all stars 3, the title of being an all stars winner lost its meaning.
I would hate, hate, HATE that All Stars 2 cast. Because my heart would have been broken every week. I think we can all pretty much agree that Cynthia is the obvious first-out, but after her, everyone could do stellar and I'd be devastated to see them leave one by one. I'd be sad to see Cynthia leave too, but I'd be expecting it at least
I like the idea of this, but I'd like to change it somewhat. I'll keep the idea of All Stars every 4 Years, however not having any Queen competing back to back so they have time to grow. Instead, one group of three comprised of older seasons as well as starting hypothetical season 3 we will get 2 former all star competitors.
Hypothetical All Stars S2
- Alaska, S5
- Roxxy Andrews, S5
- Detox, S5
- Adore, S6
- Gia Gunn, S6
- Bendelacreme, S6
- Katya, S7
- Trixie Mattel, S7
- Ginger Minj, S6
- Tatiana, S2
- Shangela, S2 & S3
- Phi Phi O'Hara, S4
Hypothetical All Stars S3
- Naomi Smalls, S8
- Chichi Devayne, S8
- Thorgy, S8
- Aja, S9
- Trinity, S9
- Shea, S9
- Monet X Change, S10
- Monique Heart, S10
- Miz Cracker, S10
- Kennedy Davenport, S7
- Alyssa Edwards, S5
- Coco Montrese, S5
- Manila Luzon, S3 AS1
- Latrice, S4 AS1
Hypothetical All Stars S4
- Akeria, S11
- Silky, S11
- Kahana Montrese, S11
- Jan, S12
- Widow Von'Du, S12
- Jackie Cox, S12
- Kandy Muse, S13
- Rosé, S13
- Tamisha Iman, S13
- Lady Camden, S14
- Deja Skye, S14
- Jorgeous, S14
- Eureka, S9 S10
- Valentina S9
- Ongina, S1
- Pandora Boxx, S2 AS1
- Jujubee, S2 AS1
Eureka and Trinity would feud like crazy. They're pageant queens from The South! 💅
I wish I could see pearl on all stars I know she got banned and her and ru had beef but everyone would be gagged to see her or willam back
Honestly i'm so over everyone sleeping on Nina Bonina Brown talent and giving Shea and Monet and Trinity more exposure
Mimi still would've been on all stars 1 and phi phi was supposed to be on there too. That's why willam didn't come back because they told her there would be no storyline for her since phi phi wasn't coming anymore.
All Stars 1 (2012): Shannel, Nina, Raven, Jujubee, Pandora, Manila, Alexis, Yara, Chad, Latrice, Willam and Phi Phi
All Stars 2 (2016): Alaska, Detox, Alyssa, Coco, Adore, Laganja, Dela, TKB, Ginger, Katya, Kennedy and Trixie
All Stars 3 (2020): Naomi, Derrick, Chi Chi, Shea, Trinity, Valentina, Monet, Mo, Eureka, Cracker, Akeria and Silky
Ooooh I love the ideas for these seasons. If I may ask, could I make what if videos based on these all stars casts? I will credit you and link your video in the description.
Update to this video after s15.
I think the 3 would be
Miss con: Malaysia babydoll fox
Almost won: Anetra
Good TV: Mistress Isabelle brooks
Did you just type spice Girls in Greek for the quote I burned my last braincells trying to understand what girls spices is
0:43 that was funny :D