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I am a Ex Graham Hancock obsessed fan, and I’m saying stop platforming this dude also lex go on destinys bridges show rn ur just being a little bit better than Joe Rogan when it comes to anything
@Skimodrew You do realize that Hancock isn't arriving at these conclusions in a vacuum, and that we are missing multiple pages from the history of human development and human civilization from before whatever happened before our current wall of historical evidence grinds to an abrupt halt about 6000 years ago...
Lex, have Flint on please. You owe it to yourself if you have any principles. Is it not plainly obvious the way Graham speaks versus any of the experts you've spoken with?
It has been demonstrated ad nauseum that Flint misrepresents Graham, Graham's work, and science in order to...? We can only guess what his motives are, but all I see is a dogmatic white knight gate keeper that is riding the coattails of Graham's success as an investigative reporter.
@@Adrian-sy9qkif you had said the same thing about Hancock, he'd be crying a out being cancelled despite his fucking Netflix deals and numerous books.
Dibble is a first wave millennial who was more concerned about his hat and laughing in Grahams face....like a typical toxic Millennial. For every Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk or Lex Friedman you have a million toxic millennials who need to stop talking.
Yeah, Graham was projecting when he said archaeologists are arrogant. He cannot even steelman the mainstream opinion.The lack of self awareness is blinding.
You should probably take the time to actually listen. He said he likes the professor’s determination and willingness to engage with Graham. He also called him a better debater. People like you genuinely suck for being disingenuous
Nobody is denying that.. but have you taken in the vast scale and amazing accuracy of the great pyramid... then compare it to pyramids not found in giza.
Its profound because currently we do not have a technology that enables us to replicate Pyramids of Egypt.Condidering how insanely heavy stones used to built pyramids are and how precisely they are positioned is in itself mind boggling.I`ve heard that some of the largest cranes that we have could be able to lift heavy stones but not as heavy as those used to built pyrmids and placing them so precisely is another matter all together.
No one archeologist is saying the prevailing theories are the only ones that matter, and that new ideas shouldn’t be considered. They accept and actually proved the existence of the younger dryas. But theories based on 3000+ year old myths and the very broad coincidences are on no way the same level as theories that provide actual evidence.
Science is business and highly influenced by external pressures. As time goes on science is becoming more and more like a moralistic religion. Of course, this is just my opinion. I also believe that science has somewhat of an adversarial structure. The thing I find really interesting is the emergence of opposition to some of Darwin’s theory.
@@betterd9160 Not really. Archaeology readily absorbs updated information and theories backed by evidence. The difference is peer review, which can be pretty brutal. Archaeology uses evidence to come to a conclusion. Graham uses a conclusion to cherry pick evidence. There’s a big difference. I’m not a Graham hater either and he got me into the subject but that’s where he’s off.
@Manbearpig4456 Archaeology isn’t a monolith as Graham portrays it to be. Sure certain professors are going to dig their heels in and refuse to change their ideas however most will when presented with convincing evidence. Look no further than the White Sands Footprints.
@@c_rock3512 I agree. Science at its foundation has a highly structured logic approach but you have to admit that it’s also easily swayed by the social zeitgeist.. archeologists do attempt to tell a story or narrative based on what they find. Psychology is my field and it is for sure influenced by ideology.
Are we all ignoring the big point. Archaeology doesn't act like a science. Because its not a science. Its anthropology. THAT is why is acts like a dogmatic religion.
Because they are just grasping at straws to discredit him. So they use common buzzwords like "racist" or "misogynist" because they know people will latch on to those words without doing any of their own research on who Hancock actually is.
Playing the victim is how Graham sells his ideas that are based on little to no evidence. So what if Dribble got a fact wrong, Graham gets everything wrong
Observers have pointed out at least 5-6 lies from Dibble on the debate. He also lied on the Danny Jones podcast about precision vases. Three decades ago, Graham's main thesis is that the archaeological timeline is wrong, and that everything is much older. Over the past three decades, with every passing year, he has only been proven right.
@@NWBwana hahahaha, he was not dishonest. a few incorrect facts versus deceiving and perpetrating a an alternative narrative for the sake of millions of $$ on books, tv shows, appearance's etc.. im afraid Hancock has never, nor will ever have any scientific or archeological credibility. but you are indeed able to believe in anything you like. Ill stick to books with credible facts in them thank you.
@simonRTJ he is dishonest. And when you continually misrepresent how you misrepresented facts, you further prove your dishonesty. I'm not here to promote or defend Graham, but boy is it telling that the Dibble fans have to resort to that tactic to defend their boy.....they can't just defend Dibble without needing to rely on ad hominem tactics. Dibble lack of integrity and intellectual honesty is of itself the issue regardless of who he is dealing with. And it's a big part of the reason why more and more disregard this academic gatekeeper versions of archeologists, because we can clearly see how dishonest they are at times. Not just wrong, but lying.
@@NWBwana so many double negatives, he's not my boy, what is "my boy" is historical and scientific method, not the cool aide of your own apparent expertise! your type of argument is non sensical, not a chink of doubt could mar the clear observational and intellectual armour, driven by critical thinking, literature and years of study, providing a skill set that can see through the obfuscation of Graham and people who "think" they know things.
The way he cries victim and that he is being canceled is a pathetic play by Hancock and strips the last piece of sympathy I had for him. It’s so obvious to me what he is doing now. Just admit it is fiction and let us all enjoy your stories again for what they are.
@Manbearpig4456 i'd like to see where he's been attacked once. I always see he claims these things but I dont see anything of the sort in the scientific community. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point (keep in mind the scientific community is not twitter)
@@Apoc-qh4jo Flint dibbles twitter from like a month ago has a 50 page rant about graham and openly mocks him with memes about pseudo archeology and linking graham to white supremacy.... he is banned from certain sites/areas due to his "dangerous" ideas... he is 100% been attacked in his LOOOONG decades long career lol
@Manbearpig4456 Ironic if Hancock actually knew the history he would know why he is being called a racist. Much of the shit he makes up just happens to be the same shit racists made up to preserve their perceived supremacy.
@@Apoc-qh4jo are u serious? countless attempts to downplay his ideas by suggesting he thinks ancient cultures couldn't make them because there not white
Haha They took our JOBS! I like them both. Regardless of who is right at least they are honest actors. The white supremacy cancel culture for what that series is what I am bothered by. Also Archeology can't really prove anything if all the evidence is destroyed in a flood. So why are they at odds it's not falsifiable so not really science.
Every time I see the name "Flint Dibble" I can't help but think he's actually a fictitious character... and I'm always shocked when I remember he is not.
@@DChris3 and Graham acts like a sophisticated expert who understands the earth's history better than any archaeologist in existence meanwhile he spews the craziest conspiracies based on conjecture and most of his theories have ZERO evidence.
@@poptartmadison3216he dedicated 30+ years of his life learning the history of humans. He doesn't deny modern archaeology. In fact he's stated in his own video talking about the debate with Flint that he uses archaeologically as a step to find what he's interested in. He looks where the archeologists don't. He believes they ignore important information, that's all. Flint had to lie in the debate multiple times to try and discredit Graham. I'd rather listen to Graham who is honest about his beliefs than Flint who's a liar and cancel culturist.
@@GroberWeisensteinthat's because Graham's argument was more based on "we haven't done enough archeology and mapping" so how can he have evidence of something that he believes needs more time and energy to find?
You could have been on the right side, Lex. Allowing Hancock to slander Flint unopposed? Do you not value the freedom confronting your accuser affords? You have no morals, you serve evil. Forgiveness awaits those who turn coat, but you must still reconcile yourself with him.
“Can’t we all just get along?” Graham and Flint are so passionate about their fields, and I wish they would support each other. Flint shares the reality of what he finds and Graham questions what he thinks we haven’t found yet. Work together guys - start putting truth to the mysteries you’re both pursuing.
Science is based on replicable experiments. Once an archeologist uncovers an artifact, no one can uncover that same artifact in the same location for a second time. There is no repeatability in archeology, meaning archeology is not science.
@@TrendyTriviaTribe Actually that is a partially incorrect statement. First it is true you can’t replicate something that has been excavated. The same could be said of paleontology, yet it falls under science. I’m going to use material evidence since you used that as an example. Let’s say you find a cup in an archeological site dating to about 1000 years ago. Archeologist would study the material through methods such as mass spectrometry, confocal microscopy to understand how the item was made. Of course care is taken to not damage the sample to ensure other archeologists and other researchers can test to verify or disprove current findings. There is the repeatability. The methods used to analyze the cup have been repeated and peer reviewed to ensure the analysis is accurate as possible.
@@Bioarch125Have you heard of Prof Edwin Barnhart, Ph.D., the archeologist who discovered more mesoamerican culture than any other archeologist? He unearthed and mapped many Mayan towns from the jungle. His perceptive is that archeology is not a real science. When he sends off fragments to be carbon dated, they are destroyed in the process. I trust his judgment, since he devotes his life to archeology. If you want to learn more, you can watch the Danny Jones podcast with Ed Barnhart from a week ago.
@ Yes I have heard of him and he has done a good job in his area of expertise in the Maya region. I wouldn’t claim that he has done the most, there are tons of archeologists have done an equal amount of contribution in the Maya region. I am not denying his influence I know who he is and my colleagues who are Mayanists do speak highly of him. He mapped those Mayan towns and cities using LIDAR, which is a methodology developed using the scientific method. Essentially if I remember correctly using a plane or drone they scan the area with lasers that allows to determine the topography of the region that would expose the region. It was fascinating what they discovered. I am an archeologist with a focus on bioarcheology, and I would disagree with him. Does he say this on the podcast that you are recommending? We do use the scientific method. The portion of repeatability is on the methods of how the data is analyzed. Normally Carbon dating is not done through ceramics because it normally does not have carbon. What is carbon dated are remnants of fire pits, plant remains, animal remains, and in some cases human remains (This one is highly dependent on the approval of the country or descendent community). For example sex estimation on human remains is repeatable, so is ceramic analysis through the analysis of typology or microwear analysis to determine use patterns, which can be repeated. There are tons of papers that use methods that are repeatable. There is a whole section in archeology called experimental archeology. It’s pretty cool and there are some videos in RUclips that showcase this. More importantly there is published articles that show case this. I would love to hear this discussion and I appreciate the recommendation.
I'm sorry but that jre episode was the one that made me realize graham is a fraud. He basicly debunked the entire ancient civilization theory in a couple hours with so much proof.
@@stefanenev6214 same here I used to be a big fan of his but the past few years it’s a constant stream of woe is me bullshit. I appreciate him for shining the light on interesting finds but you just have to ignore all the Atlantis nonsense.
its so that he can manipulate individuals who are emotionally immature and will be easily swayed. Often anti-establishment or nutjob conspiracy theorist types.
@@Guney1886 pardon me, but I am a anti-establishment conspiracy nut job and I think Graham is full of shit. He used Joe Rogan to double team and bully a legitimate working archaeologist, and the second season of his show is nothing but him standing in places while you hear b role of him spouting nonsense.
I wonder how many archeologists you'd have to stack up to equal Hancocks views or income lmfao. Poor guy is only a bestselling author with multiple Netflix docs and like 12 appearances on Rogan. So bullied LOL
@@mishaarthur7689 Exactly, we should be listening to the actual scientists and funding them but instead, we have pseudoscienceists at the forefront to keep society dumb af. Tricking people is much easier than reasoning or educating them
Hancock for 30 years: Archeologists won't consider my ideas! Archeologists: we considered your ideas and don't agree Hancock: they're try to cancel me! Also Hancock: psst...for 40 bucks I have a book that claims there is an ancient Egyptian Civilization on Mars
Flint has associated himself with people who label Graham as racist, misogynistic etc all for his ideas and theories. Graham has also followed archeology and conducted his own research and years later mainstream archeology has ended up conceding to his research because it's irrefutable. They don't like other people's input and ideas. They've been proven wrong on many occasions.
7:20 Did he seriously just imply that he's the one that's being victimized by political correctness while he perpetuates the thinking that has been used to justify indigenous peoples' removal?
It is an archaeologist's job to talk about what we can prove and what there is evidence for. Speculating about things that there is no evidence for has no part in archaeology. There is room for both, but we need to be clear which is which.
@ZeekoRamen Graham had two+ hours to talk and all he said was "archeologists are mean to me and I have no evidence" it literally doesn't even matter what Dibble said, Hancock would have lost that debate against a corpse.
@@ZeekoRamen name literally even one thing he lied about. The ship thing was an honest mistake, not his field of study, and everything else he said was sourced. Graham Hancock, came with no sources, because he has none, because he writes fiction.
Hancock: makes loose connections and people eat it up Dibble: only deals in facts and people hate him because he dresses weird Bunch of morons on these comments
It's providing findings that are speculative as full blown fact, you can say these things might have happened which is fine we like stories being told but to say it absolutely did happen is strange. Archeology doesn't even do that, only making conclusions when they have been studied and studied and studied.
That fact that you brought Hancock on after we all know he is complete bs at this point is just sad.. At the very least, show a little integrity and bring Flint on..
I'm losing faith in both Lex and JRE for giving a platform to someone pushing this pseudoscience. Lex is supposed to be a voice for the scientific community, while JRE caters more to the average listener who enjoys exploring unconventional ideas. Allowing this kind of misinformation is disappointing and undermines the credibility of the podcast.
It’s helpful to remember that Hancock is a professional writer. He hasn’t been an archeologist or anthropologist a single day in his life and none of his conclusions and fanciful speculations has ever been published in any academic journal. If you want to admonish him with any scientific or academic sounding title, put pseudo- in front of it.
He’s an extremely talented researcher and analyst, and he knows just as much about archeology as Flint or Flint’s daddy. Only difference is that he doesn’t wear a stupid hat or try to cancel people out of jealously and need for attention.
@@toneloke454 there is no evidence for any of his conclusions (aliens or a sophisticated civilisation did it). None. He uses mythology to explain ruins. That’s neither research nor analysis. That’s what children with a lot of imagination do.
@@toneloke454 He doesn't do research or analysis - he's been telling the same stories for 30 years. They are cool stories, but they are only that. If he was a talented research and analyst, he wouldn't question how ancient people knew how to draw perfect circles - hint: you tie two sticks to a rope.
@@arekhautaluoma4276 You don't believe boots-on-the-ground visits and interviews with local scientific experts is journalist research? You don't believe he is analyzing all of the information he receives from these experts?
@@tdawg2844 Archeologists have already done more boots-on-the-ground visits and interviews with local scientific experts than Graham ever will. Graham doesn't analyze all of the information he receives from these experts. He simply interprets it and integrates it into his storytelling. Analysis would entail working with other experts and publishing papers, something which he does not do.
"Troy is just mythology" *troy gets discovered* "No organised construction beyond 6000bc(egypt)" *Gunung padang and gobekli tepe gets discovered* *No demonstration of their construction, or reason for construction if construction is demonstratable* .......maybe youre not good at pattern recognition.
@@blastfromthepast7119 that’s still not evidence of a widespread human civilization, in which a society sharing language, artifacts, culture, and resources spanned the globe. Nor is any of these places existence evidence that an ancient society helped generate any number of human activity. I think it’s unfortunate so many people buy onto this guys crap because he talks well. His ideas are nuts and he might as well be a fiction writer.
@@ThomasAbeyta-np9ktand yet no one knows who and when built all the megalithic stone structures throughout the world.......yea sure.... definitely no ancient civilization that's not known about....yep lol😅
@@ThomasAbeyta-np9kt umm there are symbols shared around the world and oral stories from every continent except antarctica that talk about advanced people showing up.
Abraham Lincoln’s administrative agenda decimated white southern society, under the guise of freeing black slaves, despite he himself being a white supremacist. Racism and monetary gains will make you do and say whatever.
@@edv_yan The Atlantis/Aryan stuff was used in slavery times (and ww2) as an explanation that things were not created by indigenous (inferior) people but "ancient Aryan race"... So that is why SOME people brought that back and used it against Hancock. obv he is not racist and I think Flint said he does not think Graham is racist... The whole thing escalated to the point that the dude from Bright Insight called Flint cancer a fake and sh.... like that, Dan from Dedunking openly called for Flint cancellation (maybe not fire him from work but lets find his students... and "speak to them"...) I used to like Graham but this thing went too far now and it does not look good for Graham tbh...
I honestly can’t believe there are people in the comments actually trying to act like graham is wrong for challenging archaeology when they attack him personally and act like he’s racist…
Probably. Randall, Graham, and the like are the only ones looking into anything. Look at the melting of the ice caps. Hundreds of feet of soil(and anything in it) gone. But plenty of obvious signs people weren’t what archeologists claim. Under water cities thought to be myth and on and on. Too many coincidences within the astronomical designs not to look at. “Indigenous” people even claiming they found places. Obviously signs they tried to rebuild without the ability to do it correctly. Honestly, since we were not there, most claims are theory. Even if it’s based on current knowledge. Turkey is obviously evidence they are incorrect. Everything is older.
@@MatthewsGauss Diddle was confronted with the ancient precision vases (evidence of lost ancient technology) and he used woke ideology instead of facts to try and dismiss them.
Lex, I’d like to know how you’d feel about someone with a background in 1980’s and 1990’s movies that were about computer science and hacking coming on to your show and telling you to be more open about your field. This is what Hancock is to archaeology.
Egyptologists still can't explain how the pyramids were built or who built them because we don't even have the ability to build something like the Great Pyramid today. They are still claiming they were used as giant mausoleums for pharaohs even though no mummies or tombs have ever been discovered in them.
@@cjp1599How is Graham grifting? He doesn't deny mainstream archeology. All he's giving is his opinion and theory on a possible lost civilization. Flint is the one who dislikes that by making up stories about him.
Crossing a sea drive was not equal massive prehistoric flotillas. A raft can reach Cyprus. Just a vast misinterpretation about any possible sea faring abilities
Lex yesterday and Rogan today. The Graham Hancock rehabilitation tour has begun. He's wasted our time on fantasies. And these podcasters allow him to keep grifting. Sad.
Yeah gotta say I'm really disappointed Lex brought this charlatan on. Should've seen it coming though, if you listen to the conversation with Ed Barnhart you'll quickly realize he's [Lex] bought into Grahams fantasy. The ayahuasca is messing with them all, they seem uncapable of seeing that you can have hallucinogenic experience and have spiritual or otherwise esoteric beliefs without believing in cosmic psychic Atlanteans. They're not mutually exclusive.
On the big fan of both of you guys we need to stop the both of those wars innocent people are dying for no reason except for a couple people who have a lot of money and a lot of influence that are making the decisions the normal people there just want to live happily
Graham's arguement is basically... you can't rule it out, The archaeologists are saying, there's no actual evidence.... Graham's been singing the same song for yrs, show us acutal evidence with actual proof..
Forget who’s correct, mainstream archeology or Graham Hancock, listen to how each party communicates. Unfortunately the “loud” archeologists are way too emotional leading to stating theories, ideas, research as facts. It’s a bad look. More honest conversations need to take place. Saying you don’t know is not a fault. Dibble is not the right spokesman for this task.
You have to consider the position the mainstream archeologists are coming from. Hundreds of years of education and work only for some guy with zero archeology experience to try to push a false narrative, which pretty much is a slap in the face to mainstream archeologists. It’s like he’s telling them that all those hundreds of years of research and analysis was for nothing, and they got it wrong. And he continues with this narrative despite he himself stating there was no evidence found yet. He’s simple making large claims based on a hunch. It’s like him saying NASA needs to explore the dark side of the moon based on a half baked idea not supported by the existing data. Graham is a legitimate hack.
Are you listening at all? Graham is the one constantly grievance-mongering, claiming that Flint slanders him as a racist. Watch any interview with Flint - he emphatically states that he does not believe Graham to be a racist. Graham spends most of this interview self-victimizing himself instead of discussing the hours of archeology that they debated.
And yet the Flint fan boys here claim just the opposite, that Flint is the civil one presenting facts. He's the foul mouthed loud one accusing the other of racism and had to lie to seem to appear to put Graham in his place. Well that backfired for anyone that has followed up. The best take on Flint is to compare him to other scientists like the one mentioned twice in this clip that complemented his character and his research abilities despite totally disagreeing on the theoretical conclusions. And he was in support of Graham continuing to investigate his theory.
@zzzzzach Flint specifically states dozens of times that he does not believe Graham to be racist. It's not being a "fan boy", it's listening. Of course he supports Graham continuing to pursue his theory, that's science. But guess what? Graham does fuck all in that regard.
@@zzzzzach most scholars will have the same tone with him for the simple fact that he doesn’t have the credentials to push such theories as facts, while criticizing actual archaeologists as having it wrong. And while he does employ actual archaeologists in his research, he does so with the intention of presenting evidence as facts that negate what mainstream archaeologists believe, all to sell books and other media as actual science. Most professionals in a field wouldn’t give him the time or day to debate for the simple fact that he lacks the credentials to have a voice in the conversation. He should feel obliged that he did, despite getting crushed in this interview.
Graham thinks different... like Apple. And the mainstream scientists don't like that he doesn't think like them. I love science and love listening to knowledgeable figures but I gotta say I agree with Graham in that so many scientists are just straight up arrogant and narrow minded. I understand how Graham feels and understand why he seems bitter. How do you think any normal person would be at this point after 30+ years of ridicule and character smearing simply because he doesn't stay inside the box like the rest of them? I would be the same way
@@MosesMal0n3 thanks for confirming the arrogance I was talking about. And these are things I know about. I read. Maybe it's time you start to do the same. Have a wonderful day!!!
@@bdawg2513 lol that’s not the point. You clearly know very little about this topic, given your generic grade level answer on why you like Hancock. Blind sheep who don’t know any better getting sucked in by a smooth talking charlatan? A tale as old as time. Of course you could always enlighten us with your knowledge on archeology and ancient history, I’m sure you’ve done a ton of research behind YT videos, tell us what you’ve read that would lead you to believe Hancock’s theories are at all sound?
Dibble cited various studies - but cherry picked and mislead. His claim about the shipwreck mapping was entirely based on a UNESCO estimate - not physical shipwrecks. Dibble was very good at sounding smart, at face value - but he was not accurate. The one thing that I noticed that it's different between these two men is that Graham always couches his theories with words like "could have, or might have" Dibble often uses terms like "we know". which one is more scientific ?
Exactly. Graham has always been open to possibilities and doesn't lie to try and prove a point or win an argument. He's always been honest and acted in good faith.
@@ZeekoRamen Good faith? Whenever given a chance he derides an entire community of scientists and accuses them of gatekeeping or being jealous of his platform. He said for years no one would debate him when he knew Dibble would but Dibble had gotten cancer, he even made a remark implying Dibble might be lying about being sick to get out of a debate. His first response to Dibble after 6 months wasn't to try to disprove his ideas and the research he had but to call him dishonest and accuse him of intentionally trying to mislead the audience.
@@taylorfredrickson7750 He didn't just accuse, he showed proof that Dibble grossly exaggerated the shipwrecks, put up a chart that had nothing to do with the time period in question, had accused him of being racist, ignored that no ships more than 5000 years old have ever been found despite well accepted knowledge of far more ancient sea crossings. ...And he doesn't deride the entire community. He has many scientist friends and is on good terms with others that disagree with him like the one mentioned twice in the above clip. You know, the one that claims Graham is a very good researcher.
Graham is very sure in some things he should not be, but I’m Pretty sure Flint still takes the trophy on that one. Graham isn’t out here slandering other researchers individually, calling them racists and white supremacists, or calling his work “real archeology” in relation to anyone the slightly disagrees with him or his daddy’s work.
@@toneloke454 Flint specifically states in every interview that he does not think Graham is racist. Meanwhile Graham in every interview accuses Flint of calling him racist. It seems like one person is a little more grounded in reality.
@@arekhautaluoma4276 come on dude, that’s just dishonestly and you know it. Flint knows he’d be such a buffoon he couldn’t hide if he outright called him a racist, which he definitely wishes he could. Instead, what cowards like Flint (and many politicians and commentators) do is point to something attached to that person and call it racist, then throws his hands up like a little rat bitch and says “ I didn’t call YOU racist, I just called everything attached to your work racist”. It’s so cowardly and 99% of the time it’s completely false anyway. Just because few nazis were interested in Atlantis doesn’t make the theory of Atlantis racist hahaha it’s such a stupid concept. Even Flint doesn’t believe that, he’s just trying to cancel and discredit Hancock, probe because he’s insecure and jealous. He also had pronouns in his bio…..😬 “Hitler drank a glass of water before bed every night, so if you do the same, you’re like hitler” This is what his argument boils down to
Archeology is a science! It doesn’t just wish to be a science. I feel they need to be territorial towards someone who absolutely has no wide perspective of archeology which should be resulted from vast amount of information learnt, analyzed and internalized. Love your podcast but you need to have Dibble on your show when he is constantly mentioned by someone who benefits from it financially.
Mr. Hancock has such thin skin. He claims alot, but DOES NOT "LISTEN". He just waits to talk. I don't doubt his passion, but science is a team sport that no single person can really understand all the nuance, and measurement bias' that can easily creep in that outsiders can point out. The debates take many hours to years. If Graham feels like he's consistently losing, "maybe" he should reflect on that... not everything is a conspiracy (although it does sell books)
Graham's message is probably often overwhelming for the average person to handle. This is likely due to Graham's many insights gained through his psychedelic experiences, which many cannot relate to. I also believe that, as a person, he was/is not prepared for the attention he has received in such a short time.
Incorrect. Having explored many psychedelic drugs and experiences - Graham's message is simply boring. It is fanciful, and fun. However, there is 0 evidence for his major claims, as he admitted on Rogan. The ancient civilization that taught multiple other ancient peoples various things left behind no trace? Graham has had attention for decades now, as he has been a popular author for decades. Sure, it's more attention now, but that's because it was under some scrutiny. His ideas are fun - but they are also nothing new. Most of his ideas were already proposed in the past. There are more interesting things to find out/gain from following the bleeding-edge of what is going on in archeology - as opposed to listening to Graham trot out the same stories he's been telling for 30 years now. They are not overwhelming ideas.
@@arekhautaluoma4276 The ideas already proposed in the past, you mean like the many myths throughout the world that mention that very phenomenon? That these ideas were already out there is a good thing. This is not about being original or different. It's about spending a lifetime looking into it to see if there is a there there. He may be wrong but science also has uncovered a ton of inconvenient findings that don't fit their own theory. Including those findings and investigating new ideas should be encouraged even if the mainstream scientists don't want to. There is a huge difference between Flint and the other scientist they mentioned. If you hear him talk about Graham, he compliments him on his character and his research and encourages him to continue even though he adamantly disagrees with Graham's theoretical conclusions. It's civil and refreshing. Flint's behavior really only goes to prove Graham's point on the scientific closed mindedness and incivility.
Graham’s put forth no evidence of this civilization sadly. How he’s convinced such a large number of people to follow him has always impressed me. I’m not a Graham hater by any stretch, and would love for him to prove his ideas, but unfortunately this may never be the case.
Well he could fund them to look at where he think his civilisation, he has the money and big mainstream connections in American mass media and economic elite.
Your blind or ill researched to be oblivious to the vast megalithic stone structures around the world with zero explanation of who and when they were built or how ......
@@ZeekoRamen I love Graham’s theories and story telling. But have grown tired of him playing the victim. In his debate with Dibble his biggest argument was Archeologists try to discredit him. If he wants to call archaeologists out he needs to present evidence, studies, analysis etc. If he wants to stick to theories that’s fine, and I would enjoy that, but clearly he has no intention to do this.
1. Territoriality or scientific rigour? 2. "Attacks on me" or criticism of an idea that has less or no scientific basis? 3. "I wasn't very interesting to them." Why is it always taken in a personal level when there is a whole community that tries to find as real as possible a model of human development. "They feel they should be the ones who get global attention" = an accusation based on purely personality faults on the part of the accuser. Hancaci can be a entertainingly imaginative, but his emotional tactics are Trumpian, thus negating any speculations he may make compared to more reliable sources. "Me and my wife spent thousands of dollars diving" is not a justification of spurious claims. Debunking the entire history of a scientific method that once had to fight with a mythological church to be justified is. Achesp trick from Hancock. Speculate all you want, but leave the wounded dog rhetoric, it kills any legitimacy you may voluntarily claim to have
I don’t admire anything about Flint. I recently discovered him and do not feel that he is special in any way. He is quite ordinary and the norm when encountering university types. I feel like he publicly attacked you in an attempt to suck off of your energy and get his 15 minutes of fame by debating you.
Publicly attacked? Graham has been attacking mainstream Archeology for 20 fucking years and Dibble went on JRE and told the truth… that’s attacking Graham? Doofus
@@kylerichardson2384He has a right to criticise archeology. Flint and his other pals don't have a right to label Graham as racist, xenophobic, misogynistic etc and to try and ruin his reputation.
@@kylerichardson2384except dibble didn’t tell the truth, did you even watch this video? He deliberately left out the fact that his data set was an *estimate* of 3 million shipwrecks. As a scientist, it makes it even worse that he left out that critical detail.
@@ZeekoRamen Rules for the thee but not for Graham once again!!! I'd laugh if it wasn't so concerning that people in the 21st century are still falling for snake-oil lmao
One Greek family moved to Great Yarmouth. Now there's the biggest greek community in The UK. No need to bring animals. Clearly nobody brought any animals to Australia as they're all indigenous.
Wrong about the construction of the pyramids. They found that dried up section of the Nile that used to be near the site. Lying would imply that he's doing this on purpose for personal gain.@@ZeekoRamen
3:01 and don’t forget the fact that you have no actual evidence to back up your hypotheses and theories, but you push them as obviously real and whatever you like to
At least he has original concepts. I'm glad he shares his unique view so I can decide for myself. Glad theres no such thing as woke archaeologists that adhere to strict academic dogma... That would never happen... And definitely hasn't ever happened in the past... 😅
The first Australians did not bring any animals as far as we are aware. Dogs and other domesticated animals were not brought over for tens of thousands of years. We are not sure that they even used "boats" to get to Australia. They simply may have hung onto logs or coconuts or made very simple rafts. His stating that they must have used boats and it must have been 1000 people and there must have been a scouting voyage is pure conjecture. Grahams is making up a migration story. Truth is, we don't know the details surrounding it.
You mean thousands of people just made rafts or held onto logs and left a shore into the ocean where there was no sign of land in sight? Because archaeology is about the past, conjecture is part of it, in science as well. Theory is conjecture based on data and findings. Now, which one sounds more plausible? Yours or his? Both can coexist by the way. That's the problem with Dibble et al. They can't accept that an outsider has proposed an alternative to explore. They don't have to but why discount someone else from exploring and investigating it?
I have seen many interviews with Graham Hancock. I always leave the content in the middle. Neither what archaeologists say, nor Hancock himself. But what I have never understood is that some/many archaeologists always label him as racist while I see no connection whatsoever. What does racism have to do with Graham Hancock's work??? Can someone please explain that to me?
Do they though? I only saw them say that that he uses sources that are skewed by white perception and Flint showed the evidence of that in Joe Rogan podcast. I don't know how can you not be convinced by archaeologist after debate with Hancock. Flint brought overwhelming evidence and the only response Hancock has is that he didn't look under that one specific grain of sand in Sahara. His whole argument is that they can only say with 99% confidence that there was no lost civilization like the one he describes. The same way nobody can't disprove my claim that there is lost civilization of dinosaur space explorers. You can claim anything, but if you do it's on you to prove your theory, his has no proof
But that could just be a trait of, PEOPLE. Our sense of wonder/curiosity. Maybe it's akin to animals and certain behavior. If I'm using the term correctly: birds can be seen flocking together, but like humans, we couldn't have predicted cultures sharing similar ideas, despite being separated by land (?). Or you could interpret Graham taking something that just IS, and making it an attribute that can endowed at will? That is to say: wonder/curiosity is a feature given by or inherited from another entity.
Flint is desperately trying to make some name for his non-self by associating himself with Graham. Let’s be fair, Flint is an embarrassment. I assume this is anoint him trying to scrape up a few bucks from coffee donations from gullible but good hearted people using his toxic spin and misinformation.
for 30 years I’ve liked Graham Hancock’s books & ideas but his Netflix show is too much drama & posturing. Not enough of the science. Too many slow motion shots of Graham walking around these beautiful structures! I think he’s right about ancient civilizations but he needs to stick to the science. Keanu Reeves????
You mean there's no room for presenting alternative ideas of history with beautiful scenery? He does admit the first season was far too heavy on the drama. I mostly agree with you on the weight towards more science but I think there's room for beautiful presentation, and even for Keanu. He's an interesting guy, higher minded. Look how much attention archaeology and human history has gotten because of Graham?
Weird because Graham goes over all of the things Flint lied about on his own channel in an hour long video. Flint tried winning the debate, while not caring about what was true.
Graham is a national treasure. What a free balanced thinker so capable of admitting he could be wrong while presenting facts to show he could be correct.
The Smithsonian has a massive amount of artifacts that do not align with the history we're told and looking into their funding and oversight is very suspicious to say the least.
He talks like someone trying to profit off of nonsense and spin. “When I published my global best seller I became a threat to them” another interpretation is that they saw a book that was filled with confirmation and selection bias become influential on a global scale and so they made an effort to point out where he’s wrong. If that is the case flint dribble was their worst possible ambassador cuz he was smug condescending and manipulative. I want to believe graham Hancock but I feel what his work is missing is the question ‘if there was an ancient technologically advanced civilization, what evidence would be left behind?’ Because the evidence of our existence will be painfully obvious in the future because of the sedimentary layer that blankets the earth that is filled with plastic soot and other pollutants. There will also be underground infrastructure that will be found all over the world. Space debris. If our civ dies we might leave a cloud of debris orbiting the earth for a million years. With that and the 10,000 radioactive sites around the world you’ll never be able to obscure our existence within the population. So where is that kind of evidence Mr Hancock?
While he’s no where near a racist he is a pseudo scientist and he’s out to lunch on most topics he writes about. He couldn’t fight back when Flint used the archeological record to back up his claims. Hancock has no evidence. I used to be fascinated by his writing. No longer.
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Graham is such a powerful force for seeking knowledge.
Flint Diddle is the opposite.
I am a Ex Graham Hancock obsessed fan, and I’m saying stop platforming this dude also lex go on destinys bridges show rn ur just being a little bit better than Joe Rogan when it comes to anything
Do u want too be Joe Rogan or do u want something more and I’m tellling u it’s through bridges
@Skimodrew
You do realize that Hancock isn't arriving at these conclusions in a vacuum, and that we are missing multiple pages from the history of human development and human civilization from before whatever happened before our current wall of historical evidence grinds to an abrupt halt about 6000 years ago...
@@JROD082384 He does know that, But much like Flint "The Liar" Dibble, he is just being disingenuous.
Lex, have Flint on please. You owe it to yourself if you have any principles. Is it not plainly obvious the way Graham speaks versus any of the experts you've spoken with?
It has been demonstrated ad nauseum that Flint misrepresents Graham, Graham's work, and science in order to...? We can only guess what his motives are, but all I see is a dogmatic white knight gate keeper that is riding the coattails of Graham's success as an investigative reporter.
Hey @williamhaich you’re right, have flint come on. So we can tell him to shut up. Like I’m telling you! lol shut up!
@@Adrian-sy9qkif you had said the same thing about Hancock, he'd be crying a out being cancelled despite his fucking Netflix deals and numerous books.
Dibble is a first wave millennial who was more concerned about his hat and laughing in Grahams face....like a typical toxic Millennial. For every Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk or Lex Friedman you have a million toxic millennials who need to stop talking.
Aliens are white
Lex: what do you like about flint dibble
Graham: *proceeds to criticize Flint*
lmao
Diddle is not likable. He's a snarky pompous a**.
There’s nothing he likes lol
Yeah, Graham was projecting when he said archaeologists are arrogant. He cannot even steelman the mainstream opinion.The lack of self awareness is blinding.
He steelmanned the mainstream view to some extent@@priyogopalsingha3487
You should probably take the time to actually listen. He said he likes the professor’s determination and willingness to engage with Graham. He also called him a better debater. People like you genuinely suck for being disingenuous
Its well worth hearing Flint's responses to his debate with Graham and the aftermath.
You mean when he just goes around calling everyone racist and trying to get them deplatformed? Really worth while....
Yea. Same way I love recoding my farts and playing them at family gatherings.
A pyramid is the easiest and most stable structure that can be built for height for ancient man. Why is this so profound?
Nobody is denying that.. but have you taken in the vast scale and amazing accuracy of the great pyramid... then compare it to pyramids not found in giza.
Its profound because currently we do not have a technology that enables us to replicate Pyramids of Egypt.Condidering how insanely heavy stones used to built pyramids are and how precisely they are positioned is in itself mind boggling.I`ve heard that some of the largest cranes that we have could be able to lift heavy stones but not as heavy as those used to built pyrmids and placing them so precisely is another matter all together.
@@satoriaudio That's not what I was addressing. I was questioning why people found it profound that different cultures built pyramids.
@@1982spqr I think people are denying that. They ask "Why do so many cultures build pyramids" like it's some sort of secret or something.
@@VoodooChild2000 Got you bro.Not sure why pyramids.I’ve read somewhere that pyramid shaped objects have some spiritual significance.
No one archeologist is saying the prevailing theories are the only ones that matter, and that new ideas shouldn’t be considered. They accept and actually proved the existence of the younger dryas. But theories based on 3000+ year old myths and the very broad coincidences are on no way the same level as theories that provide actual evidence.
Science is business and highly influenced by external pressures. As time goes on science is becoming more and more like a moralistic religion. Of course, this is just my opinion. I also believe that science has somewhat of an adversarial structure. The thing I find really interesting is the emergence of opposition to some of Darwin’s theory.
@@betterd9160 Not really. Archaeology readily absorbs updated information and theories backed by evidence. The difference is peer review, which can be pretty brutal.
Archaeology uses evidence to come to a conclusion. Graham uses a conclusion to cherry pick evidence.
There’s a big difference. I’m not a Graham hater either and he got me into the subject but that’s where he’s off.
@Manbearpig4456 Archaeology isn’t a monolith as Graham portrays it to be. Sure certain professors are going to dig their heels in and refuse to change their ideas however most will when presented with convincing evidence. Look no further than the White Sands Footprints.
@@c_rock3512 I agree. Science at its foundation has a highly structured logic approach but you have to admit that it’s also easily swayed by the social zeitgeist.. archeologists do attempt to tell a story or narrative based on what they find. Psychology is my field and it is for sure influenced by ideology.
Are we all ignoring the big point. Archaeology doesn't act like a science. Because its not a science. Its anthropology. THAT is why is acts like a dogmatic religion.
How can you call graham a white supremacist when all he has done is given credit to ethnic societies. Odd take
and im pretty sure his wife is black. or something cause he says his kids are mixed
Because they are just grasping at straws to discredit him. So they use common buzzwords like "racist" or "misogynist" because they know people will latch on to those words without doing any of their own research on who Hancock actually is.
Black/white anything is their go to dog whistle 😅
His wife was on JRE. She’s white as the driven snow, fool.
It’s not blk or brown people that are calling him that, it’s yt liberals 🤦🏾♂️
Playing the victim is how Graham sells his ideas that are based on little to no evidence.
So what if Dribble got a fact wrong, Graham gets everything wrong
Observers have pointed out at least 5-6 lies from Dibble on the debate. He also lied on the Danny Jones podcast about precision vases.
Three decades ago, Graham's main thesis is that the archaeological timeline is wrong, and that everything is much older. Over the past three decades, with every passing year, he has only been proven right.
I care that Dibble does it intentionally and unethically. There is a difference between being wrong, and being deceitful/dishonest.
@@NWBwana hahahaha, he was not dishonest. a few incorrect facts versus deceiving and perpetrating a an alternative narrative for the sake of millions of $$ on books, tv shows, appearance's etc.. im afraid Hancock has never, nor will ever have any scientific or archeological credibility. but you are indeed able to believe in anything you like. Ill stick to books with credible facts in them thank you.
@simonRTJ he is dishonest. And when you continually misrepresent how you misrepresented facts, you further prove your dishonesty.
I'm not here to promote or defend Graham, but boy is it telling that the Dibble fans have to resort to that tactic to defend their boy.....they can't just defend Dibble without needing to rely on ad hominem tactics.
Dibble lack of integrity and intellectual honesty is of itself the issue regardless of who he is dealing with.
And it's a big part of the reason why more and more disregard this academic gatekeeper versions of archeologists, because we can clearly see how dishonest they are at times. Not just wrong, but lying.
@@NWBwana so many double negatives, he's not my boy, what is "my boy" is historical and scientific method, not the cool aide of your own apparent expertise! your type of argument is non sensical, not a chink of doubt could mar the clear observational and intellectual armour, driven by critical thinking, literature and years of study, providing a skill set that can see through the obfuscation of Graham and people who "think" they know things.
The way he cries victim and that he is being canceled is a pathetic play by Hancock and strips the last piece of sympathy I had for him. It’s so obvious to me what he is doing now. Just admit it is fiction and let us all enjoy your stories again for what they are.
@Manbearpig4456 i'd like to see where he's been attacked once. I always see he claims these things but I dont see anything of the sort in the scientific community. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point (keep in mind the scientific community is not twitter)
@@Apoc-qh4jo Flint dibbles twitter from like a month ago has a 50 page rant about graham and openly mocks him with memes about pseudo archeology and linking graham to white supremacy.... he is banned from certain sites/areas due to his "dangerous" ideas... he is 100% been attacked in his LOOOONG decades long career lol
@Manbearpig4456 Ironic if Hancock actually knew the history he would know why he is being called a racist. Much of the shit he makes up just happens to be the same shit racists made up to preserve their perceived supremacy.
@@Apoc-qh4jo are u serious? countless attempts to downplay his ideas by suggesting he thinks ancient cultures couldn't make them because there not white
they attached him and his work. he came back by talking on it like an adult. Nothing wrong with that.
Playing the victim…
That’s his thing lol can’t stand it
Hey @427max….shut up. You only have one like. And that was you lol
@@Adrian-sy9qk haha I don’t ever like my own but thanks for the comment hope you’re having a great week so far lol
It's ok to play the victim sometimes if you are.
@@nosson77 but he isn't
Only one way to settle this: Octagon 😂😂😂
Make it Happen Dana.
Dibble is getting SMOKED
Have you seen Handcocks cakes? Bro takes dibble easy
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@@iMerkCODM Rogan can help Hanckock train and do a cycle of steroids. Plus all that rage. Phlint Diddly will tap out to strikes.
Dibble is a real life South Park character
Haha They took our JOBS! I like them both. Regardless of who is right at least they are honest actors. The white supremacy cancel culture for what that series is what I am bothered by. Also Archeology can't really prove anything if all the evidence is destroyed in a flood. So why are they at odds it's not falsifiable so not really science.
So is Graham.
@@ManicMindTrickwe’re all characters in Matt and treys Broadway show
@@Alienthehuman I'd probably be a really boring character though.
True haha! Credit to him for coming on JRE tho
The dibble hancock saga continues haha
what saga, it is just Dibble owning tha guy and Hancock playing the victim lol
Every time I see the name "Flint Dibble" I can't help but think he's actually a fictitious character... and I'm always shocked when I remember he is not.
Funt Dribble. He acts like an effeminate papoose too, always fun to poke fun at the pompous plapapoose
MAGA fool @@DChris3
@@DChris3 and Graham acts like a sophisticated expert who understands the earth's history better than any archaeologist in existence meanwhile he spews the craziest conspiracies based on conjecture and most of his theories have ZERO evidence.
@@poptartmadison3216he dedicated 30+ years of his life learning the history of humans. He doesn't deny modern archaeology. In fact he's stated in his own video talking about the debate with Flint that he uses archaeologically as a step to find what he's interested in. He looks where the archeologists don't. He believes they ignore important information, that's all. Flint had to lie in the debate multiple times to try and discredit Graham. I'd rather listen to Graham who is honest about his beliefs than Flint who's a liar and cancel culturist.
Did Flint get Handcocked? Or did he dibble the Handcock.
Dibble dismantled Hancock’s nonsense and exposed him as a charlatan.
He couldnt even steel man it..
Hancock had nothing. Immediately shifted to ad hominem and martyr bs
Dibble lied during the debate.
@@GroberWeisensteinthat's because Graham's argument was more based on "we haven't done enough archeology and mapping" so how can he have evidence of something that he believes needs more time and energy to find?
@@ZeekoRamen there's no evidence to suggest the likelihood of what he proposes. His business is selling fantasy.
You could have been on the right side, Lex. Allowing Hancock to slander Flint unopposed? Do you not value the freedom confronting your accuser affords? You have no morals, you serve evil. Forgiveness awaits those who turn coat, but you must still reconcile yourself with him.
“Can’t we all just get along?” Graham and Flint are so passionate about their fields, and I wish they would support each other. Flint shares the reality of what he finds and Graham questions what he thinks we haven’t found yet. Work together guys - start putting truth to the mysteries you’re both pursuing.
Lex, for years I’ve been hoping for you to have Mr. Keanu Reeves on. The two of you would have such an ultimate dynamic!
Would be like a tortoise and a 3 toed sloth talking…😂
Awkward yet epic
Get some self respect
@@sonnylambert4893😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol why though
Graham: “ I don’t want to slander archeologists….
5 minutes later.
“Archeologist are very much trying to prove themselves as a science.”
that isn't slander. back to law school with you.
Science is based on replicable experiments. Once an archeologist uncovers an artifact, no one can uncover that same artifact in the same location for a second time. There is no repeatability in archeology, meaning archeology is not science.
@@TrendyTriviaTribe Actually that is a partially incorrect statement. First it is true you can’t replicate something that has been excavated. The same could be said of paleontology, yet it falls under science. I’m going to use material evidence since you used that as an example. Let’s say you find a cup in an archeological site dating to about 1000 years ago. Archeologist would study the material through methods such as mass spectrometry, confocal microscopy to understand how the item was made. Of course care is taken to not damage the sample to ensure other archeologists and other researchers can test to verify or disprove current findings. There is the repeatability. The methods used to analyze the cup have been repeated and peer reviewed to ensure the analysis is accurate as possible.
@@Bioarch125Have you heard of Prof Edwin Barnhart, Ph.D., the archeologist who discovered more mesoamerican culture than any other archeologist? He unearthed and mapped many Mayan towns from the jungle.
His perceptive is that archeology is not a real science. When he sends off fragments to be carbon dated, they are destroyed in the process. I trust his judgment, since he devotes his life to archeology.
If you want to learn more, you can watch the Danny Jones podcast with Ed Barnhart from a week ago.
@ Yes I have heard of him and he has done a good job in his area of expertise in the Maya region. I wouldn’t claim that he has done the most, there are tons of archeologists have done an equal amount of contribution in the Maya region. I am not denying his influence I know who he is and my colleagues who are Mayanists do speak highly of him.
He mapped those Mayan towns and cities using LIDAR, which is a methodology developed using the scientific method. Essentially if I remember correctly using a plane or drone they scan the area with lasers that allows to determine the topography of the region that would expose the region. It was fascinating what they discovered.
I am an archeologist with a focus on bioarcheology, and I would disagree with him. Does he say this on the podcast that you are recommending? We do use the scientific method. The portion of repeatability is on the methods of how the data is analyzed. Normally Carbon dating is not done through ceramics because it normally does not have carbon. What is carbon dated are remnants of fire pits, plant remains, animal remains, and in some cases human remains (This one is highly dependent on the approval of the country or descendent community). For example sex estimation on human remains is repeatable, so is ceramic analysis through the analysis of typology or microwear analysis to determine use patterns, which can be repeated. There are tons of papers that use methods that are repeatable. There is a whole section in archeology called experimental archeology. It’s pretty cool and there are some videos in RUclips that showcase this. More importantly there is published articles that show case this.
I would love to hear this discussion and I appreciate the recommendation.
I'm sorry but that jre episode was the one that made me realize graham is a fraud. He basicly debunked the entire ancient civilization theory in a couple hours with so much proof.
How so? What exactly was the "proof"
@@ZeekoRamen that Graham admitted he has no evidence while he pushes his ideas like it is the next coming of Jesus...
There was no such debunking.
Why is he trying to be the victim here? I really cannot even listen to Grahanm anymore. A few years ago it was fun, now it is just painful.
@@stefanenev6214 same here I used to be a big fan of his but the past few years it’s a constant stream of woe is me bullshit.
I appreciate him for shining the light on interesting finds but you just have to ignore all the Atlantis nonsense.
its so that he can manipulate individuals who are emotionally immature and will be easily swayed. Often anti-establishment or nutjob conspiracy theorist types.
@@Guney1886 pardon me, but I am a anti-establishment conspiracy nut job and I think Graham is full of shit. He used Joe Rogan to double team and bully a legitimate working archaeologist, and the second season of his show is nothing but him standing in places while you hear b role of him spouting nonsense.
I wonder how many archeologists you'd have to stack up to equal Hancocks views or income lmfao.
Poor guy is only a bestselling author with multiple Netflix docs and like 12 appearances on Rogan. So bullied LOL
@@mishaarthur7689 Exactly, we should be listening to the actual scientists and funding them but instead, we have pseudoscienceists at the forefront to keep society dumb af. Tricking people is much easier than reasoning or educating them
Hancock for 30 years: Archeologists won't consider my ideas!
Archeologists: we considered your ideas and don't agree
Hancock: they're try to cancel me!
Also Hancock: psst...for 40 bucks I have a book that claims there is an ancient Egyptian Civilization on Mars
@Manbearpig4456He's ahead of you then. You can't even figure out what mammal you are.
@Manbearpig4456and 100% dummy.
Hancockamame ideas
Flint has associated himself with people who label Graham as racist, misogynistic etc all for his ideas and theories. Graham has also followed archeology and conducted his own research and years later mainstream archeology has ended up conceding to his research because it's irrefutable. They don't like other people's input and ideas. They've been proven wrong on many occasions.
@ZeekoRamen what finds are to Hancock's credit as a result of his "work" ?
7:20 Did he seriously just imply that he's the one that's being victimized by political correctness while he perpetuates the thinking that has been used to justify indigenous peoples' removal?
Yes, he is victimized, he only has netflix show, sells a lot of books. Totally a victim of censorship
So sad when Lex follows Joe and has this drivel on. Graham Hancock is to archaeology what Eric Dubay is to physics. Insane
Graham doesn't deny archeology. I suggest watching him more.
Hancock allows insight into possibilities
@@bugmouthready529 lol....we all have imagination, we don't pass it off as bad science
@@uofajoe99meh, that's just your opinion. Equally important as any random dude here.
@@Lymbe06 you thinking valid science is an opinion is sad
It is an archaeologist's job to talk about what we can prove and what there is evidence for. Speculating about things that there is no evidence for has no part in archaeology. There is room for both, but we need to be clear which is which.
sure but is it also their job to make shit up and deliberately lie to make people who question their standards look crazy?
Flint Dibble actually has facts and evidence.
Ironic. Because flint lied multiple times during the debate to try and prove Graham wrong.
lol this milk spoiled quick, he just got exposed for lying
@ZeekoRamen Graham had two+ hours to talk and all he said was "archeologists are mean to me and I have no evidence" it literally doesn't even matter what Dibble said, Hancock would have lost that debate against a corpse.
@@toneloke454 No, he really didn't.
@@ZeekoRamen name literally even one thing he lied about. The ship thing was an honest mistake, not his field of study, and everything else he said was sourced. Graham Hancock, came with no sources, because he has none, because he writes fiction.
Hancock VS Dibble Craigs Jones invitational
Please try to address Flint's argument regarding domestication evidence in grains and the beginning of agriculture
When is flint responding to hunt grubble?
Hancock: makes loose connections and people eat it up
Dibble: only deals in facts and people hate him because he dresses weird
Bunch of morons on these comments
Excepts Dibbles facts were actually lies. Keep coping and licking those dibble boots though
It's providing findings that are speculative as full blown fact, you can say these things might have happened which is fine we like stories being told but to say it absolutely did happen is strange. Archeology doesn't even do that, only making conclusions when they have been studied and studied and studied.
Show me anywhere where Graham talks in absolutes. It's a theory.
That fact that you brought Hancock on after we all know he is complete bs at this point is just sad.. At the very least, show a little integrity and bring Flint on..
I'm losing faith in both Lex and JRE for giving a platform to someone pushing this pseudoscience. Lex is supposed to be a voice for the scientific community, while JRE caters more to the average listener who enjoys exploring unconventional ideas. Allowing this kind of misinformation is disappointing and undermines the credibility of the podcast.
Open your mind oh superior one
Shut up flint.
They've always been complete ass.
I agree and I was a big fan of Grahams initially
What pseudoscience? This is science.
It’s helpful to remember that Hancock is a professional writer. He hasn’t been an archeologist or anthropologist a single day in his life and none of his conclusions and fanciful speculations has ever been published in any academic journal. If you want to admonish him with any scientific or academic sounding title, put pseudo- in front of it.
He’s an extremely talented researcher and analyst, and he knows just as much about archeology as Flint or Flint’s daddy.
Only difference is that he doesn’t wear a stupid hat or try to cancel people out of jealously and need for attention.
@@toneloke454 there is no evidence for any of his conclusions (aliens or a sophisticated civilisation did it). None. He uses mythology to explain ruins. That’s neither research nor analysis. That’s what children with a lot of imagination do.
@@toneloke454 He doesn't do research or analysis - he's been telling the same stories for 30 years. They are cool stories, but they are only that. If he was a talented research and analyst, he wouldn't question how ancient people knew how to draw perfect circles - hint: you tie two sticks to a rope.
@@arekhautaluoma4276 You don't believe boots-on-the-ground visits and interviews with local scientific experts is journalist research? You don't believe he is analyzing all of the information he receives from these experts?
@@tdawg2844 Archeologists have already done more boots-on-the-ground visits and interviews with local scientific experts than Graham ever will. Graham doesn't analyze all of the information he receives from these experts. He simply interprets it and integrates it into his storytelling. Analysis would entail working with other experts and publishing papers, something which he does not do.
"Especially if those outsiders don't have any expertise"
Still waiting for evidence of a lost civilization
"Troy is just mythology"
*troy gets discovered*
"No organised construction beyond 6000bc(egypt)"
*Gunung padang and gobekli tepe gets discovered*
*No demonstration of their construction, or reason for construction if construction is demonstratable*
.......maybe youre not good at pattern recognition.
@@blastfromthepast7119 that’s still not evidence of a widespread human civilization, in which a society sharing language, artifacts, culture, and resources spanned the globe. Nor is any of these places existence evidence that an ancient society helped generate any number of human activity. I think it’s unfortunate so many people buy onto this guys crap because he talks well. His ideas are nuts and he might as well be a fiction writer.
Still waiting for evidence of why building 7 fell..........
@@ThomasAbeyta-np9ktand yet no one knows who and when built all the megalithic stone structures throughout the world.......yea sure.... definitely no ancient civilization that's not known about....yep lol😅
@@ThomasAbeyta-np9kt umm there are symbols shared around the world and oral stories from every continent except antarctica that talk about advanced people showing up.
Dibble owns this dude
Graham even highlighted in the show how slavery and the Spanish decimated The Inca people, how can you brand him racist.
Abraham Lincoln’s administrative agenda decimated white southern society, under the guise of freeing black slaves, despite he himself being a white supremacist. Racism and monetary gains will make you do and say whatever.
Maybe listen to any Flint Dibble interview? He emphatically states that he doesn't think that Graham is racist.
no one did call him racist
@@edv_yan The Atlantis/Aryan stuff was used in slavery times (and ww2) as an explanation that things were not created by indigenous (inferior) people but "ancient Aryan race"... So that is why SOME people brought that back and used it against Hancock.
obv he is not racist and I think Flint said he does not think Graham is racist...
The whole thing escalated to the point that the dude from Bright Insight called Flint cancer a fake and sh.... like that, Dan from Dedunking openly called for Flint cancellation (maybe not fire him from work but lets find his students... and "speak to them"...)
I used to like Graham but this thing went too far now and it does not look good for Graham tbh...
I honestly can’t believe there are people in the comments actually trying to act like graham is wrong for challenging archaeology when they attack him personally and act like he’s racist…
I suspect they are mostly Flint Dibble Burner accounts 😂
Probably. Randall, Graham, and the like are the only ones looking into anything. Look at the melting of the ice caps. Hundreds of feet of soil(and anything in it) gone. But plenty of obvious signs people weren’t what archeologists claim. Under water cities thought to be myth and on and on. Too many coincidences within the astronomical designs not to look at. “Indigenous” people even claiming they found places. Obviously signs they tried to rebuild without the ability to do it correctly. Honestly, since we were not there, most claims are theory. Even if it’s based on current knowledge. Turkey is obviously evidence they are incorrect. Everything is older.
@@MatthewsGauss Diddle was confronted with the ancient precision vases
(evidence of lost ancient technology) and he used woke ideology instead of facts to try and dismiss them.
@@MatthewsGauss Hes got the same evidence as every other. Just a differemt interpretation
He cannot even steel man without criticizing. He is bad faith or has lack of self awareness.
Lex, I’d like to know how you’d feel about someone with a background in 1980’s and 1990’s movies that were about computer science and hacking coming on to your show and telling you to be more open about your field.
This is what Hancock is to archaeology.
Yes, Lex is disappointing the scientific community with this one
North and South America are a treasure trove of unexplainable things by old archeologist arrogance. Never stop looking for truth. Ever.
Egyptologists still can't explain how the pyramids were built or who built them because we don't even have the ability to build something like the Great Pyramid today. They are still claiming they were used as giant mausoleums for pharaohs even though no mummies or tombs have ever been discovered in them.
Flint Diddle is the type of guy to fake being a stoner.
@@cjp1599How is Graham grifting? He doesn't deny mainstream archeology. All he's giving is his opinion and theory on a possible lost civilization. Flint is the one who dislikes that by making up stories about him.
Explain yourself
I definently disagree
@@cjp1599 Diddle was confronted about the precision vases recently and he fumbled it bad using woke ideology not facts.
@@cjp1599you’re grifting this comment section
@@cjp1599Facts? I guess you are a clovis first Kool aid drinker.
Crossing a sea drive was not equal massive prehistoric flotillas. A raft can reach Cyprus. Just a vast misinterpretation about any possible sea faring abilities
Lex yesterday and Rogan today. The Graham Hancock rehabilitation tour has begun. He's wasted our time on fantasies. And these podcasters allow him to keep grifting. Sad.
Why are fantasies a waste?
Yeah gotta say I'm really disappointed Lex brought this charlatan on. Should've seen it coming though, if you listen to the conversation with Ed Barnhart you'll quickly realize he's [Lex] bought into Grahams fantasy. The ayahuasca is messing with them all, they seem uncapable of seeing that you can have hallucinogenic experience and have spiritual or otherwise esoteric beliefs without believing in cosmic psychic Atlanteans. They're not mutually exclusive.
Yea, noooooo way the mainstream narrative isn't BS lol😅
You people sure are sad I agree. You and every badly dressed "archaeologist" that liked your comment.
Fantasies are not wastes. Open your mind.
On the big fan of both of you guys we need to stop the both of those wars innocent people are dying for no reason except for a couple people who have a lot of money and a lot of influence that are making the decisions the normal people there just want to live happily
Love Graham ,looking forward to watching his new show this weekend
The Dibbler 😂
Completely fascinating, so much still to discover. Much love to you, Lex 🤍
Graham's arguement is basically... you can't rule it out, The archaeologists are saying, there's no actual evidence.... Graham's been singing the same song for yrs, show us acutal evidence with actual proof..
Forget who’s correct, mainstream archeology or Graham Hancock, listen to how each party communicates. Unfortunately the “loud” archeologists are way too emotional leading to stating theories, ideas, research as facts. It’s a bad look. More honest conversations need to take place. Saying you don’t know is not a fault. Dibble is not the right spokesman for this task.
You have to consider the position the mainstream archeologists are coming from. Hundreds of years of education and work only for some guy with zero archeology experience to try to push a false narrative, which pretty much is a slap in the face to mainstream archeologists. It’s like he’s telling them that all those hundreds of years of research and analysis was for nothing, and they got it wrong. And he continues with this narrative despite he himself stating there was no evidence found yet. He’s simple making large claims based on a hunch. It’s like him saying NASA needs to explore the dark side of the moon based on a half baked idea not supported by the existing data. Graham is a legitimate hack.
Are you listening at all? Graham is the one constantly grievance-mongering, claiming that Flint slanders him as a racist. Watch any interview with Flint - he emphatically states that he does not believe Graham to be a racist. Graham spends most of this interview self-victimizing himself instead of discussing the hours of archeology that they debated.
And yet the Flint fan boys here claim just the opposite, that Flint is the civil one presenting facts. He's the foul mouthed loud one accusing the other of racism and had to lie to seem to appear to put Graham in his place. Well that backfired for anyone that has followed up. The best take on Flint is to compare him to other scientists like the one mentioned twice in this clip that complemented his character and his research abilities despite totally disagreeing on the theoretical conclusions. And he was in support of Graham continuing to investigate his theory.
@zzzzzach Flint specifically states dozens of times that he does not believe Graham to be racist. It's not being a "fan boy", it's listening.
Of course he supports Graham continuing to pursue his theory, that's science. But guess what? Graham does fuck all in that regard.
@@zzzzzach most scholars will have the same tone with him for the simple fact that he doesn’t have the credentials to push such theories as facts, while criticizing actual archaeologists as having it wrong. And while he does employ actual archaeologists in his research, he does so with the intention of presenting evidence as facts that negate what mainstream archaeologists believe, all to sell books and other media as actual science. Most professionals in a field wouldn’t give him the time or day to debate for the simple fact that he lacks the credentials to have a voice in the conversation. He should feel obliged that he did, despite getting crushed in this interview.
Love Graham Hancock's "Ancient Apocalypse" series on Netflix. Highly worth watching and very much food for thought and should not be discounted.
Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson for the win.
This is not a game
Always personal never scientific
Graham thinks different... like Apple. And the mainstream scientists don't like that he doesn't think like them. I love science and love listening to knowledgeable figures but I gotta say I agree with Graham in that so many scientists are just straight up arrogant and narrow minded. I understand how Graham feels and understand why he seems bitter. How do you think any normal person would be at this point after 30+ years of ridicule and character smearing simply because he doesn't stay inside the box like the rest of them? I would be the same way
The fact that you’re so easily persuaded by Hancock says a lot about your IQ. Stick to things you know.
@@MosesMal0n3 thanks for confirming the arrogance I was talking about. And these are things I know about. I read. Maybe it's time you start to do the same. Have a wonderful day!!!
@@bdawg2513 I’m sure you read some high level Dr Seuss books!
@@MosesMal0n3 Oh quit being mad that someone has a different opinion than you and grow up. Go do something productive for a change
@@bdawg2513 lol that’s not the point. You clearly know very little about this topic, given your generic grade level answer on why you like Hancock. Blind sheep who don’t know any better getting sucked in by a smooth talking charlatan? A tale as old as time.
Of course you could always enlighten us with your knowledge on archeology and ancient history, I’m sure you’ve done a ton of research behind YT videos, tell us what you’ve read that would lead you to believe Hancock’s theories are at all sound?
3:42
They want people to know the truth instead of just baseless conjecture
Dibble cited various studies - but cherry picked and mislead.
His claim about the shipwreck mapping was entirely based on a UNESCO estimate - not physical shipwrecks.
Dibble was very good at sounding smart, at face value - but he was not accurate.
The one thing that I noticed that it's different between these two men is that Graham always couches his theories with words like "could have, or might have"
Dibble often uses terms like "we know".
which one is more scientific ?
Facts, seems like most people who support Dibble conveniently seem to not realise the errors in a lot of his argumentation.
Exactly. Graham has always been open to possibilities and doesn't lie to try and prove a point or win an argument. He's always been honest and acted in good faith.
@@ZeekoRamen Good faith? Whenever given a chance he derides an entire community of scientists and accuses them of gatekeeping or being jealous of his platform. He said for years no one would debate him when he knew Dibble would but Dibble had gotten cancer, he even made a remark implying Dibble might be lying about being sick to get out of a debate. His first response to Dibble after 6 months wasn't to try to disprove his ideas and the research he had but to call him dishonest and accuse him of intentionally trying to mislead the audience.
@@taylorfredrickson7750 He didn't just accuse, he showed proof that Dibble grossly exaggerated the shipwrecks, put up a chart that had nothing to do with the time period in question, had accused him of being racist, ignored that no ships more than 5000 years old have ever been found despite well accepted knowledge of far more ancient sea crossings. ...And he doesn't deride the entire community. He has many scientist friends and is on good terms with others that disagree with him like the one mentioned twice in the above clip. You know, the one that claims Graham is a very good researcher.
dibble is obviously more scientific. not even close
I think people ought to consider that treasure hunters exist and that if the shipwrecks had cargo they could be on blackmarkets around the world
do you know where ancient shipwrecks usually are? I will tell you, at the unexplored bottom of the sea.
people were sailing on rafts before ships with cargo and all that. Hancock himself is extremely self-limited in how he considers these things.
Love it. Keep up the good work Graham. If you weren't hitting the target they wouldn't be attacking you.
Weird take - if everyone says you are wrong, you must be right??
@@erimo506So, if "everyone" says your opinion is wrong, then their just saying it makes it wrong ? That's a weird take.
@@KelliAnnWinklernah, it’s the lack of evidence to support Hancock, and the abundance of evidence to the contrary that makes him wrong.
@@casualviewing1096 Example?
@@casualviewing1096 What lack?
It wasn't the Human condition that lead them to explore and cross an ocean to almost certain death, it was a crazy-ass woman....
This guys so freaking full of himself it’s sickening
Agree
Delusional
Graham is very sure in some things he should not be, but I’m Pretty sure Flint still takes the trophy on that one.
Graham isn’t out here slandering other researchers individually, calling them racists and white supremacists, or calling his work “real archeology” in relation to anyone the slightly disagrees with him or his daddy’s work.
@@toneloke454 Flint specifically states in every interview that he does not think Graham is racist. Meanwhile Graham in every interview accuses Flint of calling him racist. It seems like one person is a little more grounded in reality.
@@arekhautaluoma4276 come on dude, that’s just dishonestly and you know it. Flint knows he’d be such a buffoon he couldn’t hide if he outright called him a racist, which he definitely wishes he could. Instead, what cowards like Flint (and many politicians and commentators) do is point to something attached to that person and call it racist, then throws his hands up like a little rat bitch and says “ I didn’t call YOU racist, I just called everything attached to your work racist”.
It’s so cowardly and 99% of the time it’s completely false anyway.
Just because few nazis were interested in Atlantis doesn’t make the theory of Atlantis racist hahaha it’s such a stupid concept.
Even Flint doesn’t believe that, he’s just trying to cancel and discredit Hancock, probe because he’s insecure and jealous. He also had pronouns in his bio…..😬
“Hitler drank a glass of water before bed every night, so if you do the same, you’re like hitler”
This is what his argument boils down to
You're so full of nothing it's saddening
Archeology is a science! It doesn’t just wish to be a science. I feel they need to be territorial towards someone who absolutely has no wide perspective of archeology which should be resulted from vast amount of information learnt, analyzed and internalized. Love your podcast but you need to have Dibble on your show when he is constantly mentioned by someone who benefits from it financially.
Mr. Hancock has such thin skin. He claims alot, but DOES NOT "LISTEN". He just waits to talk. I don't doubt his passion, but science is a team sport that no single person can really understand all the nuance, and measurement bias' that can easily creep in that outsiders can point out. The debates take many hours to years. If Graham feels like he's consistently losing, "maybe" he should reflect on that... not everything is a conspiracy (although it does sell books)
Have you ever heard of Galileo?
Graham's message is probably often overwhelming for the average person to handle. This is likely due to Graham's many insights gained through his psychedelic experiences, which many cannot relate to. I also believe that, as a person, he was/is not prepared for the attention he has received in such a short time.
Incorrect. Having explored many psychedelic drugs and experiences - Graham's message is simply boring. It is fanciful, and fun. However, there is 0 evidence for his major claims, as he admitted on Rogan. The ancient civilization that taught multiple other ancient peoples various things left behind no trace? Graham has had attention for decades now, as he has been a popular author for decades. Sure, it's more attention now, but that's because it was under some scrutiny. His ideas are fun - but they are also nothing new. Most of his ideas were already proposed in the past. There are more interesting things to find out/gain from following the bleeding-edge of what is going on in archeology - as opposed to listening to Graham trot out the same stories he's been telling for 30 years now. They are not overwhelming ideas.
@@arekhautaluoma4276 The ideas already proposed in the past, you mean like the many myths throughout the world that mention that very phenomenon? That these ideas were already out there is a good thing. This is not about being original or different. It's about spending a lifetime looking into it to see if there is a there there. He may be wrong but science also has uncovered a ton of inconvenient findings that don't fit their own theory. Including those findings and investigating new ideas should be encouraged even if the mainstream scientists don't want to. There is a huge difference between Flint and the other scientist they mentioned. If you hear him talk about Graham, he compliments him on his character and his research and encourages him to continue even though he adamantly disagrees with Graham's theoretical conclusions. It's civil and refreshing. Flint's behavior really only goes to prove Graham's point on the scientific closed mindedness and incivility.
Graham’s put forth no evidence of this civilization sadly. How he’s convinced such a large number of people to follow him has always impressed me. I’m not a Graham hater by any stretch, and would love for him to prove his ideas, but unfortunately this may never be the case.
Well he could fund them to look at where he think his civilisation, he has the money and big mainstream connections in American mass media and economic elite.
Your blind or ill researched to be oblivious to the vast megalithic stone structures around the world with zero explanation of who and when they were built or how ......
No evidence now doesn't mean no evidence in the future. It's an interesting theory. There's no reason for people to hate him for it.
@@ZeekoRamen I love Graham’s theories and story telling. But have grown tired of him playing the victim. In his debate with Dibble his biggest argument was Archeologists try to discredit him. If he wants to call archaeologists out he needs to present evidence, studies, analysis etc. If he wants to stick to theories that’s fine, and I would enjoy that, but clearly he has no intention to do this.
@@ZeekoRamen Narnia is for real, have you looked in all wardrobes??
"3 million ships is not a fact but an estimate." FFS
Its funny bc lex obviously doesnt believe any of this ish.
Graham is a grifter. And owes his whole career to the people he has been bashing for years
He has been the primary recipient of bashing. Where is the grift??
Flint was brave to do the interview. Graham is also brave to speak his mind.
1. Territoriality or scientific rigour?
2. "Attacks on me" or criticism of an idea that has less or no scientific basis?
3. "I wasn't very interesting to them." Why is it always taken in a personal level when there is a whole community that tries to find as real as possible a model of human development. "They feel they should be the ones who get global attention" = an accusation based on purely personality faults on the part of the accuser.
Hancaci can be a entertainingly imaginative, but his emotional tactics are Trumpian, thus negating any speculations he may make compared to more reliable sources.
"Me and my wife spent thousands of dollars diving" is not a justification of spurious claims. Debunking the entire history of a scientific method that once had to fight with a mythological church to be justified is. Achesp trick from Hancock. Speculate all you want, but leave the wounded dog rhetoric, it kills any legitimacy you may voluntarily claim to have
Dibble > Hancock all day long.
Maybe if you’re looking at who lies lol Flint got exposed.
Flint was cringe. Even the way he dresses. Take the hat off and wear the headphones. You look like an idiot.
Lol at lying?
seems like you guys are in war with this guy.
I love Graham Hancock and his work. More and more people are waking up🙏
I don’t admire anything about Flint. I recently discovered him and do not feel that he is special in any way. He is quite ordinary and the norm when encountering university types. I feel like he publicly attacked you in an attempt to suck off of your energy and get his 15 minutes of fame by debating you.
Publicly attacked? Graham has been attacking mainstream
Archeology for 20 fucking years and Dibble went on JRE and told the truth… that’s attacking Graham?
Doofus
@@kylerichardson2384Lol, did you have to sign off as Doofus?
@@kylerichardson2384He has a right to criticise archeology. Flint and his other pals don't have a right to label Graham as racist, xenophobic, misogynistic etc and to try and ruin his reputation.
@@kylerichardson2384except dibble didn’t tell the truth, did you even watch this video? He deliberately left out the fact that his data set was an *estimate* of 3 million shipwrecks. As a scientist, it makes it even worse that he left out that critical detail.
@@ZeekoRamen Rules for the thee but not for Graham once again!!! I'd laugh if it wasn't so concerning that people in the 21st century are still falling for snake-oil lmao
One Greek family moved to Great Yarmouth. Now there's the biggest greek community in The UK.
No need to bring animals. Clearly nobody brought any animals to Australia as they're all indigenous.
Graham is a legend.
@@cjp1599what has he lied about? Tell me exactly what he's lied about. I'll wait.
Wrong about the construction of the pyramids. They found that dried up section of the Nile that used to be near the site. Lying would imply that he's doing this on purpose for personal gain.@@ZeekoRamen
Team Dibble!
This guy simply won’t go away, huh? It’s so obvious that this guy is a charlatan, how many times does he need to be exposed before people catch on?
Exposed? When, how? Graham?
@@blastfromthepast7119 yes, Graham.
@@Fenrir1373 in what manner has he been exposed, exactly?
Yeah, Fairy1373, let’s hear you lay out your argument. Personally, I always like to see people challenge existing hypothesis, theories and beliefs.
@@jimb.942 fairy? lol
3:01 and don’t forget the fact that you have no actual evidence to back up your hypotheses and theories, but you push them as obviously real and whatever you like to
At least he has original concepts. I'm glad he shares his unique view so I can decide for myself. Glad theres no such thing as woke archaeologists that adhere to strict academic dogma... That would never happen... And definitely hasn't ever happened in the past... 😅
I always suspected Lex was a grifter, but this confirms it 100%
Where is the grift?
The first Australians did not bring any animals as far as we are aware. Dogs and other domesticated animals were not brought over for tens of thousands of years. We are not sure that they even used "boats" to get to Australia. They simply may have hung onto logs or coconuts or made very simple rafts. His stating that they must have used boats and it must have been 1000 people and there must have been a scouting voyage is pure conjecture. Grahams is making up a migration story. Truth is, we don't know the details surrounding it.
You mean thousands of people just made rafts or held onto logs and left a shore into the ocean where there was no sign of land in sight? Because archaeology is about the past, conjecture is part of it, in science as well. Theory is conjecture based on data and findings. Now, which one sounds more plausible? Yours or his? Both can coexist by the way. That's the problem with Dibble et al. They can't accept that an outsider has proposed an alternative to explore. They don't have to but why discount someone else from exploring and investigating it?
I have seen many interviews with Graham Hancock. I always leave the content in the middle. Neither what archaeologists say, nor Hancock himself. But what I have never understood is that some/many archaeologists always label him as racist while I see no connection whatsoever. What does racism have to do with Graham Hancock's work??? Can someone please explain that to me?
He is trying to discount africa as the cradle of humanity..
Do they though? I only saw them say that that he uses sources that are skewed by white perception and Flint showed the evidence of that in Joe Rogan podcast.
I don't know how can you not be convinced by archaeologist after debate with Hancock. Flint brought overwhelming evidence and the only response Hancock has is that he didn't look under that one specific grain of sand in Sahara. His whole argument is that they can only say with 99% confidence that there was no lost civilization like the one he describes. The same way nobody can't disprove my claim that there is lost civilization of dinosaur space explorers. You can claim anything, but if you do it's on you to prove your theory, his has no proof
Dibble came off as a prick. That's for sure
But that could just be a trait of, PEOPLE. Our sense of wonder/curiosity. Maybe it's akin to animals and certain behavior. If I'm using the term correctly: birds can be seen flocking together, but like humans, we couldn't have predicted cultures sharing similar ideas, despite being separated by land (?). Or you could interpret Graham taking something that just IS, and making it an attribute that can endowed at will? That is to say: wonder/curiosity is a feature given by or inherited from another entity.
Hancock is absolutely shameless in promoting his books
Nothing wrong with them. He's far more interesting than someone called "Flint Dibble" who lies and tries to get people cancelled.
Graham simply doesn’t have enough proof to be persuading the amount of people he persuades. Dibble does, though.
I heard Hancock is gunna pull up on dibble when he’s lackin
You brought up his name, so now let's hear the other guy.
Flint is desperately trying to make some name for his non-self by associating himself with Graham. Let’s be fair, Flint is an embarrassment. I assume this is anoint him trying to scrape up a few bucks from coffee donations from gullible but good hearted people using his toxic spin and misinformation.
Flint Dibble for Halloween
Particularly that outfit he wore on Rogan with his sleeve cuffs up to his palms and showing all the way to the wrist.
Graham Hancock's argument is a younger-dryas-of-the-gaps argument.
I admit, I laughed at this. This was a VERY clever play. Well done!
But how is it wrong?? We have much evidence. It is all around.
2 to 4 people can populate an entire continent
GRAHAM: "WHAAAAAAAAA, THEY SAID FACTUAL THINGS ABOUT ME"
Except the only thing said about him was he is a racist, which is not true.
Youre a child in mind.
for 30 years I’ve liked Graham Hancock’s books & ideas but his Netflix show is too much drama & posturing. Not enough of the science.
Too many slow motion shots of Graham walking around these beautiful structures!
I think he’s right about ancient civilizations but he needs to stick to the science.
Keanu Reeves????
You mean there's no room for presenting alternative ideas of history with beautiful scenery? He does admit the first season was far too heavy on the drama. I mostly agree with you on the weight towards more science but I think there's room for beautiful presentation, and even for Keanu. He's an interesting guy, higher minded. Look how much attention archaeology and human history has gotten because of Graham?
Dibble brought facts
Weird because Graham goes over all of the things Flint lied about on his own channel in an hour long video. Flint tried winning the debate, while not caring about what was true.
So did graham
There’s many videos showing Graham’s lied too. We need to push Graham to fund searches in the Amazon and other places he describes as under excavated.
@@DrMTR1991 you thinks its a lie, or dishonest to call the amazon underexcavated?
.....are you kidding?
@@blastfromthepast7119tf are u yapping abt lil nigga u gon get cooked come talk to daddy
Graham is a national treasure. What a free balanced thinker so capable of admitting he could be wrong while presenting facts to show he could be correct.
The Smithsonian has a massive amount of artifacts that do not align with the history we're told and looking into their funding and oversight is very suspicious to say the least.
such as:
@@arekhautaluoma4276 Entire warehouses of artifacts you will never see.
@residentgrey that's funny because
a) it's stupid and baseless
b) I work in a building that provides storage to a prominent local museum
He talks like someone trying to profit off of nonsense and spin. “When I published my global best seller I became a threat to them” another interpretation is that they saw a book that was filled with confirmation and selection bias become influential on a global scale and so they made an effort to point out where he’s wrong. If that is the case flint dribble was their worst possible ambassador cuz he was smug condescending and manipulative. I want to believe graham Hancock but I feel what his work is missing is the question ‘if there was an ancient technologically advanced civilization, what evidence would be left behind?’ Because the evidence of our existence will be painfully obvious in the future because of the sedimentary layer that blankets the earth that is filled with plastic soot and other pollutants. There will also be underground infrastructure that will be found all over the world. Space debris. If our civ dies we might leave a cloud of debris orbiting the earth for a million years. With that and the 10,000 radioactive sites around the world you’ll never be able to obscure our existence within the population. So where is that kind of evidence Mr Hancock?
Have Dibble on. It’d be interesting to hear some deep archeological insights.
Then why have him on?
He's not a white supremacist. Such a stupid suggestion infuriates me!!
While he’s no where near a racist he is a pseudo scientist and he’s out to lunch on most topics he writes about. He couldn’t fight back when Flint used the archeological record to back up his claims. Hancock has no evidence. I used to be fascinated by his writing. No longer.
You mean like the 3 million documented shipwrecks? That ended up being actually more like 280,000?
Hancock made a fool of himself, classic
Graham is a treasure.. I've been listening to Graham and Randall Carlson for years.
@@AidanCulverREALI'd rather take him seriously than someone who makes up lies about him to get him cancelled. Because they didn't like what he said.
@@ZeekoRamen That's EXACTLY what you're doing!! hypocrite much?
Flint's "trust me I'm an archeologist" hat is what does it for me.
"The clothes make the man," they say? ;)