Tam Invitational 2021 Winners Semis - Spargo (Pyra Mythra) Vs. Skyjay (Incineroar) SSBU Ultimate
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- The Tam Invitational is a Smash Ultimate Tournament in Mexico. This Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Tournament is a 3-day event with the best players from Mexico and the US
The event was streamed on: / vgbootcamp
You can check out the bracket here: smash.gg/tourn...
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*takes sparg0 to last hit last stock games 5
*plays Incineroar, a very bad character
*loses
*accepts his loss
*confidently walks up
*gives firmest handshake ever seen in smash
*leaves
what a fucking chad
This game is balanced though it doesn’t matter about tiers
You really consider Sonic, Hero and Sora balance? 😑😒
@@kevstiburodracon1024 none of those characters other then sonic who's arguable is top tier lol
@@SuperSonicEzra Steve is balanced?
Incineroar a bad character? Hell nah just because hes heavy weight? Why you so stupid kid...
Hat off to SkyJay for playing a char in a much lower tier, yet managed to push Spago to game 5 and last stock 👍
Just imagine if Incineroar had better physics. Like even just a little bit faster movement on the ground and the air...
Please no, i am scared of this furry getting any movement speed buffs knowing an increase could make him op. Also, I watch your vids.
Grappler life - zone walls, great normals, highest rewards for reads at the low cost of being patient.
Oh hell no. 8:28
Nah no thanks. Sky jay is good but lets be real. Most are just side b spammers and aerial spammers lol
S tier
Anyone not named MKLeo who sends Sparg0 into the last stock of game 5 deserves ALL the props. That game was nuts!
I mean even MKLeo deserves that props. He's the best for a reason, but I get the sentiment
@@vick7868 agreed, it’s just a big bar for anyone else.
Well, after all, Mkleo and Skyjay have something in common, both use powerful but underrated characters
Chag and Maister have even beaten him with Maister’s sey being one of the Hypest I’ve seen
@@elmarshadowv5708 Lol Incineroar is much worse though, so I'm think its all the more impressive
Skyjay went last game, last stock against the #2 in the world and put the FEAR OF GOD into him.
With GODDAMN INCINEROAR.
That's a win in my books.
Everyone really underestimates Incineroar's recovery. I wouldn't consider it good but it's definitely not one of the worst in the game. He has a side b and up b to help, neither of which put him in freefall and he's probably one of, if not the best reverse edge guarders.
Yeah he can mix up his recovery really well. It’s just his air speed that sucks
it's not his moves that are the problem lmao. his design is blatantly tuned to the extremes. notice the most recent "buff" didnt improve ANY of his attributes or frame data.
Yup. I didn't know he can save his jump after Up B
And he has armour on his startup of UpB which really helps too
the issue with incins recovery is like doctor mario and crockrocking before the buff you can actively kill yourself by using your recovery moves, which is terrible design.
I wonder if Spargo has fought an Incineroar at this level before. On paper, Pyra/Mythra completely destroys Incineroar, but Skyjay seems to find the right situations to get gimps to make it a close set. If they fight again, it wouldn't surprise me if Spargo learned the matchup better and it wouldn't get as close.
I really thought your dp is pyra for a minute.
I mean, they're both mexicans so I assume this isn't the first time they've run into each other. They've probably played friendlies too.
Yeah this is kind of like that inciniroar play in the u.s thag took a game off mk leo. I think inciniroar benefits from people having a lack of knowledge on the match up
They have played a lot before, for sure.
I think if sparg0 played wadi I see sparg0 winning this time
Even though Sparg0 spaghetti'ed a few of his own stocks away at early percents, it is quite impressive that Skyjay managed to bring this to game 5.
Skyjay played exceptionally well considering the match-up, what an amazing set
I think people are missing what Skyjay took advantage of this game. Both Pyra and Mythra cannot drift that far left and right out of up b, so little that Incin nair can ruin their stock regardless of percent due to the angle Sparg0 kept getting sent. Pyra/Mythra have a Space Animal problem of being easily gimped in disadvantage and it’s really showing. And especially with no way to angle their own recoveries like most chracters, die exceptionally easy at ledge. I think if Sky jay went for more throws off ledge and covered recovery with Nair/Alolan whip like he was in the second half of the game, he’d have won much easier instead of trying to play the ground game vs the stronger and faster characters who can abuse his lack of range and speed.
Another issue is Mythra's jump ins are committal (Her air accel isn't that great and her Nair has notable lentgh) and Sparg0 uses a lot of them.
Skyjay just started catching on. I felt that U-smash from the other side of the screen.
this, plus skyjay should have did down b more instead of shielding the pyra side b. it was free most of the time but he reacted with shield instead of down b. i’m almost positive he had enough time unless down b is that slow to come out
@@chvox_ I'm pretty sure the multihit would punish him.
@@ivrydice0954 oh you’re definitely right.
That was such a damn good set. Props to both players there for just truly playing like pros.
God damn that last stock was intense!
Great footage on the disadvantage reversals and gimps. Great match, nice win Sparg0!
Man, if only Nintendo gave Incineroar an actual buff, instead of just inexplicably boosting his up-B damage a few percent
They are. The fucking cat gets buffed in his entire grappler gimmick even harder than many FG grapplers. Every damage buff is a buff to revenge.
@@justice8718 This dude gets grabbed, no question
This character was definitely intended to be slow, let’s keep it like that k?
@@janswhatsupdoc
Then why the fuck are the other grapplers better bro
Kodos to Skyjay to go 2-3 against SpargO
SKYJAY ES UN HÉROE
Spargo was so good at avoiding the Revenge attempts. If Skyjay got even 1 or 2 more of those each match, I think Spargo would have lost.
First word: Hype
Second Word: “Rawrrr”
Man what a match and yeah Incenroar definitely underrated, great game to Spargo and Skyjay
I really wish Incineroar was better. It would be cool if you could use his up B without the second part where he descends. And you would have to press it twice or press and hold to go back down, like with Cloud or Sephiroth. That one small change would help a lot with mixups, especially if he could act quickly out of it, because then you could do the first part of the up b and follow it up with a side b, double jump, air dodge, down b, aerial, whatever. I feel like his grab range should be buffed too. Obviously it would better if he had more practical buffs like movement speed or air speed, or frame data but I feel like that could make him broken
As an incinerator main I couldnt agree more
7:02 wat the heck? What kind of tech was that? I didn’t know you could drift Mythra’s neutral b like that 😱
Pretty sure it's just a b reverse
He did a B reverse on the ground. When you do it, some Neutral Bs slide you across the ground a little bit when timed right.
If you charge neutral b out of dash, you will glide a bit. You can actually drag people with you if you catch their jump while charging (since the charge animation has a Hitbox on top)
GGs to Skyjay for making it a game 5
I just want to celebrate for a minute how Nintendo did a really good job balancing heavy weights in this game. Sure, they still have their problems. But more than ever before their absolute power can actually be a difference maker. People often pick the fast combo characters that don’t hit as hard but over the last year we have seen so many heavy weights on the up and up that it’s starting to become undeniable that these character can hang. In some ways it’s less stressful knowing you just need one good hit. But only in some ways :P
I love watching Skyjay play! Knowing spargo’s reputation I thought Skyjay would probably loose, but still hoped to get a show and ho boy I totally did!
skyjayなんでわざわざ頭出すように復帰してるのかなと思ったら、ラストストックで頭出さないように復帰して2択になってんの天才すぎんか
Insane set!!! I AM a fan of SKYJay now
Sad to see my boy Skyjay get DLC'd on
Skyjay really is out here proving Incineroar can, in fact, compete. Something I never thought possible lol
skyjay is insane! congratulations to both
Fun set! Spargo definitely got a little greedy not respecting his opponent the third and fourth game but glad to see him get his composure and get the win
Wait, is this the same commentator behind the legendary “el tech de Jesus”
No but I wish
Nope :c
Sparg0 seems to get the most interesting matchups. It helps that he himself has a very diverse pool of characters.
13:28 I think skyjay's decision to down throw instead of back throw cost him the set. it reset to neutral and spargo started to gain momentum from this point. skyjay was doing so well at edgeguarding so it felt bad to see the lead turn into a loss
He did backthrow.
It’s arguable if downthrow would have been better
@@mistermeuh3284no it was downthrow
@@ebolahunter4144 test it it’s a backthrow
Bro Skyjay almost won this makes me want to main ganondorf even more now
If incin had bowser run speed....
Dude fatality almost took a game off spargo in MainStage and now skyjay almost took one off spargo to? Damn these low tiers and spargos incredible mentality and plot armor in this situations.
like another commenter on here said, its probably just the matchup knowledge. if sparg0 got more experience he'd probably get the download and would do better.
saddens me to say that since I was really rooting for fatality and skyjay lol.
The Ridley player Nair^ also took a set off sparg0 in smash world tour
@@sethstoll8525 i saw that vod after this one and I was mind blown 😳
13:24
Once he didn't throw him offstage I knew it was over
最後の握手かわいい😍
sparg0くん
むしろガオ側の人怒りぶつけてない?wwspargoくんびっくりしてる気がw
Same sorta thing happend with Leo's Byleth vs. Debuzz's Min Min. Learned the matchup and just erased Min Min out of existance in the grand finals.
Skyjay did well but i def. think he was scared in this set, he kept trying to landing on Spargo for some odd reason? and those bad counters man, ugh. Also not going for obvious Side Bs to kill Spargo, he really could've won at 14:19 if he Side B instead of Ftilt but alas that's not how this timeline goes :/well ggs tho to both players.
Imposible no reírse viendo todos los gimps que hace Skyjay XD
what a set! insane.
Sparg0 ability to clutch it out extremely close games def is honestly super impressive, and def reminiscent of Leo's infamous "Plot Armor/Clutch Factor"
He doesn’t clutch that’s why he hasn’t won a major lol
@@coopnewton8204 He was literally down an entire stock this last game and he still won! That's considered clutch lol
I feel like Leo's clutch factor is bringing back entire sets while Sparg0's is bring back an entire game whether or not he's down a stock or two! He has done this more than once
To be fair, his opponents have clutched out games against Sparg0 too. Chag reverse 3 stocked Sparg0 at mainstage (though he did eventually lose the set). Skyjay came back in this very set at game 3. It feels like people clutch the games out against Sparg0 almost as frequently as Sparg0 does it to others.
@@Sancnea But he even threw stocks away! Spargo lost at least 3-4 stocks at like 20-30 percent
This was beautiful
Tier list just don't matter much in Ultimate huh?
I'd be happy if they nerfed incin damage in order to get a buff to his speed
On that 5th game all sparg0 did was stop going off stage until the last stock so he didnt get cheesed lol
Count the number of gimps Skyjay gets in this set, because it’s all of them.
Winers Semis
I'm gonna say it, incineroar is underrated
Aint no way this is the best incin. So many reads were available but he chickens out
That was fkn heavy!
I believed.
Incineroar looks like an incomplete character compared to the DLC characters. It's sad too because if Incineroar was DLC you know he would be busted
If they buff incineroar the wrong it could spell trouble
Incineroar is a difficult character to balance because if they actually buffed his weaknesses (his ground and air speed) he might be a little too strong, especially in casual play. They’d have to nerf his damage output or frame data to compensate
Because obviously that worked out great for Banjo. Not all DLC are created equally either. Chances are Incin would've been slightly better or literally the same as it is.
Dude, no. He is a fucking long-ranged grappler with long and meaty normals that doesn’t have input issues. Revenge is the most bullshit counter in the game that allows him to at least get 30%-60% off of any move.
He is a really, really stupid character. Byleth and Falco didn’t get mobility buffs either, but they and the big cat are rising in results with their enhanced specials/normals buffs they all gotten.
In my opinion, just like Byleth, Incineroar is a secret top tier, maybe he is slow, but he have a versatile recovery, good punishment options, the most dangerous counter in my opinion, and a frame 6 move. Skyjay REALLY know how to use it
Calling Byleth a top tier is ridiculous and this is coming from a Byleth main
I think its more that people have little to no experience against Incineroar to be able to counter him, and this is coming from an Incineroar main
14:34 how that grab miss? this man deserves a refund 5 sure
i watched at half speed and see now that spargo spot dodged. rip.
Call me a hater. But i wanted spargo to lose soooo bad bro. Dam it
jajajaja no habia visto el cartel de ta ta ta ta ta tamaulipas
“The eegeez”
Ah yes the eegees
Typical DLC robbery
The only dlc characters that are cheesy as the big cat himself is Hero, Kazuya, Arsene Joker, and Min-Min. Especially for absurd DPS rates and kill power.
@@justice8718 lol doesn't list pyra/mythra
No mames spargo the next mkleo
low tier held incineroar down
Pyra players have nothing but shame to feel
Just getting tired of spargo and his smug face already lol. I’ll keep cheering against him :)
Do I understand that top players will abuse top tiers because money is on the line? Yes.
Will I still complain about it? Yup.
Dlc supremacy smash pay to win ultimate
God dammit Pyra and Mythra are so irritating
bro spargo is washed wtf
Pythra player shouldn't even be close to losing games to Incin
It's either Sparg0's lack of knowledge fighting the character or Skyjays adaptation. It is most likely both. Even if Pyra/Mythra are supposed to "shit" on incinaroar, it will almost never be a dominant match up.
Wow. Smash reminds me why no one likes fighting grapplers.
Because?