FLERF kryptonite = The Truth.... and not willing to even try and understand the logic of it. They instantly dismiss as lies and they spend so much energy trying to debunk.... so sad
Math is one of those things they try to indoctrinate you with in School. Also Correct English, History and hygiene. But Flerfers aren't falling into that trap.
@MaxCruise73 Who is "us" and specifically what do you want to be convinced of? The globe prediction I referenced in my comment is in the video where a drone was used to debunk the anticipated flat earth conspiracy that there is a studio in Antarctica. A TFE globe participant did a livestream before the trip in which the audience presented their best flat earth excuses for the 24 hour sun and the one King Nico is pushing was just one of about 25.
@@heyarno Meh, when you go to Antarctica and make predictions and then test those predictions you can have the moral high ground to speak about it. Saying AI proves you have nothing to offer this discussion but conspiracy theories. Please don't raise children and indoctrinate them into your denial of truth, logic, and common sense.
@@ProfessorCrumbs65 The markers were placed according to the heliocentric model prediction, and reality matched the prediction. Meanwhile, the flat earth religion has no way to predict anything, much less this. So, we've led you to the logic, now it's up to you to THINK. You won't.
That's sick! Putting a mark every 15° is one thing. Calculating the length of the shadow from the elevation of the sun, OK. But then going the length and marking them in the snow to show the prediction, that's a great idea. And these marks were already visible in the live streams and other footage. Next time I want to sneak into your hand luggage.
Haha... Exactly my reaction when I opened the video. When they were at Antarctica and saw the "stones" I thought "WTF are those things for?". Now I see. Clever. Pretty clever.
It doesn't prove the shape of the earth if you go to Antarctica and just stare at the sun.... 🌞 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 ....They've said. Flerfs are so simple minded 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Well, *obviously* the guns are out of shot behind the camera, and one is being held against Toon's head, with a soldier telling him to say that . They should have used a 360 degree lens to take the whole thing in one shot, not cameras rotating on a tripod. (This post is a joke, just in case I need to say that)
Have you heard Flatzoid claiming he wasn't invited to TFE now? And Jeran saying he accepts there's a 24 hour sun, he accepts flat earthers are horrible people but he'll never be a glober. Daniel Pratt's about to burst a blood vessel he's so angry. They really are imploding.
When Jeran says he’ll never be a glober, I think he means that even if he accepts that the globe model is true, he’s not going to join the community. And he still thinks that NASA is faking everything, etc. But he’s clearly not happy with the FE community either, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens with him.
@boewin756 I don't think his ego will let him admit the earth is a globe. He's still a conspiracy believing fool but he has definitely woken up to the slime he's been associating with. No idea what his grift is going to be now. Maybe he'll have to get a proper job
Jeran is screwed. He's a man without a community. Globers chastise him.. FE Calls him a shill. He's a lone wolf, UNABLE to admit that there's only ONE model that can possibly provide such an accurate prediction for exactly what they saw.
When I first started watching I saw a shadow made by a tripod? doing some kind of elliptical movement then shortly after noticed the "rocks" and how close the end of the shadow was to the "rocks" That was simplicity itself, you made a prediction, mapped it out, and then a "natural phenomenon" supplied the evidence. Oh my! this is another devastating blow for FE.
:) Yes, but flerfs have already moved the goal post. Like Nathan and others (especially Flatzoid) claim that for it to be an experiment the person who do the experiment has to change the IV HIMSELF which is of course complete BS.The IV can be any change as long as it does not depend on the thing you want to measure. The only real criteria is that the DV depends on the IV and the IV can be almost anything. Time can also be the IV like in this case. The DVs here are the shadow length as well as the angle / direction of the shadow. In the case of flerfs we could even use their IQ as IV. Because as it's dropping the cope is growing :P
@RT-oc6iu are you broken? That's the experiment. He used the 🪨 to map out the path the sundial would take and set them up at the distance the the shadow would land on IF the Earth was a globe and the time lapse show that the sun dial matched the calculations based on the globe. What about this do you not understand?
@@GoodWill-s8j the comment I responded to doesn't appear to be no longer here. It was questioning why people were so excited about this because he just placed rocks on the ground every so often and it started "why are you all so broken".
None of it is real. Space is fake! Proceed to play. Lists. To see what they do not want you to know! See the information from those that believe it not those that slander it!
@@RT-oc6iu How do you explain the 24h sun in Antarctica? Also, here's some additional questions you might want to think about: 1. If water always finds its level, explain tides. (Also level does not necessarily mean flat.) 2. How do you explain lunar eclipses? 3. How do you explain the ISS's orbit? (before you say "It FKAE BrO!" you can literally see it with a telescope if you know where to look.) 4. How does the Coriolis effect work on a fantasy pizza land? 5. Why does the sky appear to rotate in opposite directions in opposite hemispheres, and from east to west at the equator? 6. Why are different constellations visible at different times of the year? 7. If a person in Australia, Africa and South America look at the southern cross, on a dirt disc they will be looking in different directions. So how can they see the same things?
@A-12-1-14 haha yes a 24hr sun has been filmed multiple times in the artic and only ever filmed once in antartica by a bunch of youtube clowns, imagine being that gullible
Flerfs are going to say multiple light sources because of the pole shadows, because everything is blamed on perspective... ...except _actual_ perspective.
@@paulmadryga Except if it is one of those fancy circular cinematic lighting rigs where the multiple lights switch at the exact frequency of the camera shutter so there is only 1 moving shadow, but the effect of one of those would look nothing like what is seen here. Parallel light from the sun has a very different look to light coming from local light sources
@@paulmadrygaFlat-earth believers can't understand simple things such as parallel lines only appearing to converge due to distance or that the Sun could never actually set if the Earth was flat. Never underestimate what they'll go out of their way to avoid understanding, or just lie about.
@@MonochromeWench - These guys need to learn about the Occam's Razor postulate: the more dumb-@$$ assumptions that need to be made in order to support a hypothesis, the less likely the veracity of that hypothesis.
Also notice the shadow is going counter clockwise. When in the north the sun goes clockwise. Kinda hard for the sun to go in opposite directions on a flat earth.
And if you think about why our clocks go "clockwise", it's because the majority of civilization lives North of the equator and that's where sundials were created. So naturally a clock rotates in the same direction as sundials in the Northern hemisohere.
I think they are gonna also latch on how the outpost looks completely different in the beginning and the end. Did I miss something earlier about all the timelapses in the first day?
Great observation again showing how the Globe predicts reality. Variation of elevation matching the Latitude of the observation. Pity flat Earthers lack the ability to understand why this destroys flat Earth once again.
Imagine being so desperate to prove TFE was fake that you would sift theough ever frame of these videos looking for something you dont understand.. which is everything.
Mikey Smith found a few weird things in the video of Toon shouting at Nathan, it wasn't the original upload he was looking at though, it was someone else's restream and what Mikey was seeing were compression artifacts that weren't in the original. He's since taken down the video without explanation.
I saw a bit of the set up of this on Jerans gopro footage where he was questioning "what is toon doing?" At the time I had no idea, I couldn't give Jeran an answer but now I know. That is really cool
Oops a cloud came over. Sorry MickTooon you're gonna have to do it again 😉 On a serious note, I do hope you thoroughly enjoyed your trip to Antarctica. I know the flerfs aren't responding how we thought they would, but it was still 100% worth going in my opinion. You and McKeegan and Duffy and CT really put in the hard yards and it shows with how excellent these videos of results are. Thank you, Michael, and I hope you had a wonderful Christmas
Oh, they're certainly responding how we _thought_ they would. Just not how we'd _hoped_ they would. You can lead a horse to water, but after that it's not really worth blaming you for the dehydrated horse corpse.
I can hear the flerfs. "The trip was faked. How can you be there for that whole time and never see any clouds?" Also flerfs when a clouds shadows a small part of the sundial: "See! You are just using 'clouds' as an excuse to hide the edits in your fake video."
Only one model can make predictions this accurate ahead of time that turn out to be true in reality. That's the model based on the globe. And according to Witsit, flat earthers "don't have a model." Therefore, they can't even make predictions at all. What a complete failure.
"The Earth is a flat disk (see the AE map) where a small and local Sun and Moon circle above its surface orbiting the North Pole..." - the Generally Accepted Flat Earth Model
@@robinseibel7540 They don't understand science...at all. Which means sense because they don't believe in science either. If they believed in science, they could not simply discount 100s of years of astronomy. Note how they say NASA this and NASA that, which is a total failure to understand there's astronomers all over the globe, not just in the US, and who don't work for NASA. So they only way their belief system works is to think EVERYONE is lying. Which means there's no proving anything to them. Most of them seem to be trolls, or hopeless.
Jeran and Witsit probably helped with the placement of the snowballs using their knowledge of the flat earth model to predict the path of the sun over the 24 hrs.
@lordbrahma-god well, technically, you're right: the earth is a very slightly pear shaped oblate spheroid so it isn't actually a sphere. But other than that, what you said is imbecilic.
i bet flerf don't understand what an amazing experiment/proof you show here. Most likely thinking it's just a timelapse of a 'shadow and randomly place snowballs'.
It's such a waste doing this just for the flerfs. For all the others it's just like: , looks nice, but no new information for me. Still jealous for this nice adventure ;-)
Most Flerfs seem to operate with the following definitions: Experiment: Something that is setup to prove a flat earth and only flat earthers are capable of doing; unless it accidently proves a globe then it is not an experiment. Proof/evidence: Something that has been interpreted, twisted, or completely and hopelessly misunderstood by a flat earther to demonstrate the earth is flat. Anything else that even indicates the Earth might be a globe is not evidence/ proof by definition.
@@horstomat I was multi-tasking, didn't see the diagram on my phone screen. My comment should probably have said "I _enjoyed_ seeing the shadow..." instead. I got that it was the point, but clinically viewing it and actually enjoying it is all the difference in the (spherical) world!
Oh no, two shadows passed over each other. Flatties will probably say, "that can't happen on a spinning, wobbling, tilting, water space ball!", or something stupid like that. Otherwise, excellent timelapse of this very cool phenomenon.
I am stunned that the timing for this trip was so perfect. A few days different and it would have been a disaster in terms of the objectives. One is tempted to say “Thank God!” and mean it.
You guys couldn’t have asked for better weather conditions whilst out there, unbelievable timing, everything you needed from the sun you got without much cloud interference!
You guys just keep getting better and better!! Love these guys amazing contribution for truth and education. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Would be an honor to have a picture with all of you guys to hang on my wall. Will Duffy, Conspiracy Toonz, Dave Mckeegan and yes... even the Flet Earthers. Each one of them when in favor of truth. You guys rock!!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
Oh no, I feel rumbling. Sources explain seismic activity is being felt all around the globe from yet another collective moving of goal posts by flat earthers after watching this. It'll pass in a moment, after the flerfs decide the new locations for the posts. Stay safe everyone.
Funny thing, if the seismic activity was strong enough it would be picked up by seismographs all around the globe, further destroying the ridiculous flat earth claim.
To paraphrase from a Christmas Carol, "Flat earth was dead to begin with, make no mistake about that. Dead as a door nail. Mind I should think a coffin nail would be a more appropriate piece of iron mongery."
Nothing could be more satisfying than watching Jeran and Austin defend these videos from the exact same ridiculous slanders they've been throwing at people for years. And Jeran will STILL tell you those other videos of the 24-hr sun were faked. I say Campanella is getting too much credit considering his big takeaway from this is to be even more angry at NASA.
This was beautiful. The song, the marks, the simplicity, the truth. I hope people would not fight so hard in order to keep their man made stories when only opening one's eyes is enough to understand how things really are. Thank you!
Unfortunately, you are dead wrong. None of this will make a difference. The reason I say this is simple. FE's have ignored mountains of hard evidence of a globe for years prior to TFE. Why would any of us think this would be different? Can't anyone else see this! Having said that. Congratulations to the entire TFE crew.
@@DanSimmons-s2fI don’t think any of us thought any differently than that, even before the trip happened. Lol, you could blast them into space and they’d still think earth was flat.
Now we need one from the equator on 20th March 2025 showing sunrise to sunset. Better yet add two other locations to demonstrate the 24 hour straight line path of the sun along the equator during an equinox. Then ask flerfs how the sun returns to where it starts travelling along a straight line on a non-rotating flat earth
There are some very determined conman grifting money off the gullible flerf's, so they will just invent more batshit crazy ideas to keep the money rolling in.
Question: is it possible to have Lisbeth or Jonathan on stream to discuss the trip? We always talk about Jeran and Austin, but I'm curious to hear the other two as well... they also seem both enjoyable, too.
@@AlsadiusSure, I remember it, but he mostly stayed there silent in teh background on his armchair 😂. I had something more structured and "regular" in mind...
The video is powerful evidence for a globe Earth in at least three different ways: 1. The markers are in near-perfect placement, estimating the length of the center shadow for each hour of the 24 hours. 2. The shadows being cast by the markers and flags clearly demonstrate the proper meaning of vanishing point (from a single light source). 3. And, of course, the fact that a full rotation was made while the sun never set. Brilliant work, Michael. Absolutely brilliant.
@@glennpearson9348this video is a powerful evidence of a globe hoax. We can clearly observe a local sun rotating above in circular motion, proving solar system doesn’t exist
@@glennpearson9348according to a globe and timezones model, Antarctica is all the way at the bottom and upside down. Yet the people are walking normal. Explain that
Preet Chandi live on BBC this morning from Antarctica talking about her training and the 24hr daylight there now and her previous expeditions to S Pole
The shadow path (calculated and real) is an ellipse, due to it being a plane section of the cone formed by the circular Sun path and the point of the gnomon. Someone tell Steven to put that in his model.
@@jessejones1420That went right over your head, didn't it flerf? You not having a model WAS the joke. I can see why a genius like you thinks Earth is flat.
THIS proves the globe 100%!! I think any flerf should say "OK, we were incorrect, it may indeed be a globe, this is not "Kind of correct, it is PERFECT". But I can dream. Thank You both for the prediction and all the hours put into the experiment! God bless you both, and to any flerf that decides to join reality. Respect! MAD respect!!
@@FanofMillan godspeed, god bless, omg, yea, I will go with an expression for Kevin, a fun habit, a loving poke at our dear ancestors. Go science! Not "scientism", not "evolutionists", we don't do your reigions superstitious bullshit you guys. We do computers, cameras, smartphones, internet, and healthcare. /rant over lol
@@FanofMillan Yes, God. I am 55, spent my entire life researching science. Chances are I have forgotten more than you will ever learn. By the time I was 20. You do know Einstein was working on a formula to prove God even to his final breath, right? You have heard of the Golden Ratio, correct? This is all planned. If a simulation, the programmer would still be "God". Please capitalize "God" next time, and lets discuss. Because you have zero proof, God, does not exist.
@@rayfighterIncorrect. I am with Einstein, who believed there is a God. They are not polar opposites, in fact, he, and I, believe science and life only exist at all because of God. Be polite, capitalize "God" and lets discuss like adults. And yes, the Earth is a globe, we landed on the moon, etc. I am not an uneducated person.
@@FanofMillan Yes, God. I am 55, spent my entire life researching science. Chances are I have forgotten more than you will ever learn. By the time I was 20. You do know Einstein was working on a formula to prove God even to his final breath, right? You have heard of the Golden Ratio, correct? This is all planned. If a simulation, the programmer would still be "God". Lets discuss. Because you have zero proof, God, does not exist.
If any flerf wants to offer this form of a defense as a cope, just cut and paste this. ### Experiment (n.): A scientific procedure undertaken to make a discovery, test a hypothesis, or demonstrate a known fact. Hypothesis: For the fixed, known height of an object on (a globe) Earth at a specific location at a specific time, the sun will cast a calculable, predictable length shadow. Null Hypothesis: There will be insufficient change in the length of the shadow to determine if small errors in calculation of the shadow's distance, or the placement of the markers, render the measurements statistically meaningless. Experimental design: (1) Calculate the distances and directions of the shadow for each hour in a full day, noting that for many places on the globe Earth the shadow's length is incalculable due to the sun's decent below the horizon, (2) Mark these calculated, predetermined distances and directions, (3) Make observations about the shadow's length and direction over the 24-hour period. Observation: Carefully observe time of day and shadow's length relative to the predetermined locations of the placed markers. Conclusion: The observations support the hypothesis, while refuting the null hypothesis in that the change in shadow length over the period of observation is statistically meaningful as compared to the minor errors in placing the markers (the shadow length varied in distance from just over 700cm to around 249cm). Actual error, by observation was less than 10cm (1.5% to 4% of actual measured, predicted length at any point over the 24 hour period). This experiment was brilliant in conception. Especially given the location where it was performed.
They did a few basic things, like verifying that the plane flew south from Chile, but really their main role was to watch the Team Globe experiments and certify that there were no shenanigans. They did that just fine, so I've got no real complaints there.
@@nateswan9527they also set up 3 different cameras of their own,including a mount they had tracking the sun. One of the cameras wasn't happy with the cold and failed. Not sure when they are planning to release footage from the other two.
They won't even try. They'll see the cable and completely focus on that claiming that it's all fake because they don't understand how 360 cameras work.
Amazing work M.C.Toon. Such a great idea.
Problem is that this whole experiment contains FLERF kryptonite - mathematics!
flerftonite?
Mathtonite?
Austin has an aptitude for math.
FLERF kryptonite = The Truth.... and not willing to even try and understand the logic of it. They instantly dismiss as lies and they spend so much energy trying to debunk.... so sad
Math is one of those things they try to indoctrinate you with in School. Also Correct English, History and hygiene. But Flerfers aren't falling into that trap.
Perfect musical score and lyrics as another globe prediction throws another shovel full of dirt onto the flat earth grave.
Meh, it's AI screeching to my ears.
@heyarno, Convince us you are correct.
@MaxCruise73 Who is "us" and specifically what do you want to be convinced of? The globe prediction I referenced in my comment is in the video where a drone was used to debunk the anticipated flat earth conspiracy that there is a studio in Antarctica. A TFE globe participant did a livestream before the trip in which the audience presented their best flat earth excuses for the 24 hour sun and the one King Nico is pushing was just one of about 25.
@@heyarno Meh, when you go to Antarctica and make predictions and then test those predictions you can have the moral high ground to speak about it. Saying AI proves you have nothing to offer this discussion but conspiracy theories. Please don't raise children and indoctrinate them into your denial of truth, logic, and common sense.
@@1GODISNOWHERE1 My comment was directed at @heyarno. Failed to include his user name in my comment. My mistake.
Will correct.
Again, my error.
You can lead a flerf to logic but, you can’t make him think.
True. Furthermore that proverb works for all who confuse myth and fact.
That's original.
Especially if they have a bible brain.
@@ProfessorCrumbs65 The markers were placed according to the heliocentric model prediction, and reality matched the prediction. Meanwhile, the flat earth religion has no way to predict anything, much less this.
So, we've led you to the logic, now it's up to you to THINK. You won't.
Nice cgi bro
That's sick! Putting a mark every 15° is one thing. Calculating the length of the shadow from the elevation of the sun, OK. But then going the length and marking them in the snow to show the prediction, that's a great idea.
And these marks were already visible in the live streams and other footage.
Next time I want to sneak into your hand luggage.
Haha... Exactly my reaction when I opened the video.
When they were at Antarctica and saw the "stones" I thought "WTF are those things for?".
Now I see.
Clever. Pretty clever.
It doesn't prove the shape of the earth if you go to Antarctica and just stare at the sun....
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🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
....They've said.
Flerfs are so simple minded 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
“It's difficult to get a flerf to understand something when his superchats depends upon his not understanding it." -Globehead Sinclair
WHERE ARE THE GUNS NATHAN? I DONT SEE ANY GUNS!
The penguins stole them.
That will go down in history as a kick to the nuts, the flat nut age.
Get back to the ice shelf Penguins , you'll get no more rifles from Kincade !
Well, *obviously* the guns are out of shot behind the camera, and one is being held against Toon's head, with a soldier telling him to say that . They should have used a 360 degree lens to take the whole thing in one shot, not cameras rotating on a tripod. (This post is a joke, just in case I need to say that)
Day off! 😂
Have you heard Flatzoid claiming he wasn't invited to TFE now? And Jeran saying he accepts there's a 24 hour sun, he accepts flat earthers are horrible people but he'll never be a glober. Daniel Pratt's about to burst a blood vessel he's so angry. They really are imploding.
They have fallen too far down their own pit of lies to ever escape.
When Jeran says he’ll never be a glober, I think he means that even if he accepts that the globe model is true, he’s not going to join the community. And he still thinks that NASA is faking everything, etc. But he’s clearly not happy with the FE community either, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens with him.
Still a hell of a lot of Derp for Jeran.
@boewin756 I don't think his ego will let him admit the earth is a globe. He's still a conspiracy believing fool but he has definitely woken up to the slime he's been associating with.
No idea what his grift is going to be now. Maybe he'll have to get a proper job
Jeran is screwed. He's a man without a community. Globers chastise him.. FE Calls him a shill.
He's a lone wolf, UNABLE to admit that there's only ONE model that can possibly provide such an accurate prediction for exactly what they saw.
When I first started watching I saw a shadow made by a tripod? doing some kind of elliptical movement then shortly after noticed the "rocks" and how close the end of the shadow was to the "rocks" That was simplicity itself, you made a prediction, mapped it out, and then a "natural phenomenon" supplied the evidence. Oh my! this is another devastating blow for FE.
:) Yes, but flerfs have already moved the goal post. Like Nathan and others (especially Flatzoid) claim that for it to be an experiment the person who do the experiment has to change the IV HIMSELF which is of course complete BS.The IV can be any change as long as it does not depend on the thing you want to measure. The only real criteria is that the DV depends on the IV and the IV can be almost anything. Time can also be the IV like in this case. The DVs here are the shadow length as well as the angle / direction of the shadow.
In the case of flerfs we could even use their IQ as IV. Because as it's dropping the cope is growing :P
@RT-oc6iu are you broken? That's the experiment. He used the 🪨 to map out the path the sundial would take and set them up at the distance the the shadow would land on IF the Earth was a globe and the time lapse show that the sun dial matched the calculations based on the globe. What about this do you not understand?
@@Justin-bo5pg too many big words like "the" and "to"
@Justin-bo5pg please read again, he's not a flerf.
@@GoodWill-s8j the comment I responded to doesn't appear to be no longer here. It was questioning why people were so excited about this because he just placed rocks on the ground every so often and it started "why are you all so broken".
Funny how globe math was used to perfectly place the markers at the shadows approximate length. I'd love to see flerfs attempt this. But, they won't
None of it is real. Space is fake! Proceed to play. Lists. To see what they do not want you to know! See the information from those that believe it not those that slander it!
globe math was not used you numpty, he placed a marker down every hour the day before
Flerfs will say that the Snow is CGI and that one of the Shadows was 2 Nanometers shorter or longer that some other BS they Claim.
@@RT-oc6iu How do you explain the 24h sun in Antarctica?
Also, here's some additional questions you might want to think about:
1. If water always finds its level, explain tides. (Also level does not necessarily mean flat.)
2. How do you explain lunar eclipses?
3. How do you explain the ISS's orbit? (before you say "It FKAE BrO!" you can literally see it with a telescope if you know where to look.)
4. How does the Coriolis effect work on a fantasy pizza land?
5. Why does the sky appear to rotate in opposite directions in opposite hemispheres, and from east to west at the equator?
6. Why are different constellations visible at different times of the year?
7. If a person in Australia, Africa and South America look at the southern cross, on a dirt disc they will be looking in different directions. So how can they see the same things?
@A-12-1-14 haha yes a 24hr sun has been filmed multiple times in the artic and only ever filmed once in antartica by a bunch of youtube clowns, imagine being that gullible
Flerfs are going to say multiple light sources because of the pole shadows, because everything is blamed on perspective... ...except _actual_ perspective.
Multiple light sources would result in multiple sets of shadows being cast. I fail to understand why that should be difficult for them to comprehend.
@@paulmadryga , there's a surgeon general's warning on trying to understand what's difficult for a flerf to comprehend.
@@paulmadryga Except if it is one of those fancy circular cinematic lighting rigs where the multiple lights switch at the exact frequency of the camera shutter so there is only 1 moving shadow, but the effect of one of those would look nothing like what is seen here. Parallel light from the sun has a very different look to light coming from local light sources
@@paulmadrygaFlat-earth believers can't understand simple things such as parallel lines only appearing to converge due to distance or that the Sun could never actually set if the Earth was flat. Never underestimate what they'll go out of their way to avoid understanding, or just lie about.
@@MonochromeWench - These guys need to learn about the Occam's Razor postulate: the more dumb-@$$ assumptions that need to be made in order to support a hypothesis, the less likely the veracity of that hypothesis.
Also notice the shadow is going counter clockwise. When in the north the sun goes clockwise. Kinda hard for the sun to go in opposite directions on a flat earth.
Well, obviously it's going the same way and they just filmed it the other way up ... 😉
And if you think about why our clocks go "clockwise", it's because the majority of civilization lives North of the equator and that's where sundials were created. So naturally a clock rotates in the same direction as sundials in the Northern hemisohere.
FLERFS are SO going to latch onto the stitch section where the two sides overlap, completely not understanding how that camera works.
"FAKE! What's that cord obviously just hanging in mid-air??!"
I think they are gonna also latch on how the outpost looks completely different in the beginning and the end. Did I miss something earlier about all the timelapses in the first day?
Flerfs don't even understand a simple lens so how a camera works is out of the question. And they think clouds are NASA chem blobs.
@@boekjar It´s the holder for the Green screen 😀
Honestly, I'm shocked how beautiful that song is.
The only thing that I dislike about it is when the word "the" is stressed. It throws off the meter.
@@criskity I noticed that too. That aside, it's a gem of a song among all the uninspiring music that's prolific these days.
I have a sneaking instinctual suspicion it is AI generated. Regardless, very pretty
AI vocals are obvious.
@@Deathadder90 It is AI. That's what I find so shocking.
Thank you for the audio... This was beautiful
Great observation again showing how the Globe predicts reality. Variation of elevation matching the Latitude of the observation. Pity flat Earthers lack the ability to understand why this destroys flat Earth once again.
Flat earthers will either say this proves the flat earth or it's fake. They can't even decide properly after TFE.
Imagine being so desperate to prove TFE was fake that you would sift theough ever frame of these videos looking for something you dont understand.. which is everything.
Brilliant!
Mikey Smith found a few weird things in the video of Toon shouting at Nathan, it wasn't the original upload he was looking at though, it was someone else's restream and what Mikey was seeing were compression artifacts that weren't in the original. He's since taken down the video without explanation.
😂 they’re looking at every footprint as well, its crazy
@@TheShonuff888
Let them...
It'll keep them busy for a while! And hopefully out of mischief...
@@Stonemonkie1 Mikey Smith is legally and clincally rtd. Hardly the benchmark for forensic video analysis.
I saw a bit of the set up of this on Jerans gopro footage where he was questioning "what is toon doing?"
At the time I had no idea, I couldn't give Jeran an answer but now I know.
That is really cool
Oops a cloud came over. Sorry MickTooon you're gonna have to do it again 😉
On a serious note, I do hope you thoroughly enjoyed your trip to Antarctica. I know the flerfs aren't responding how we thought they would, but it was still 100% worth going in my opinion.
You and McKeegan and Duffy and CT really put in the hard yards and it shows with how excellent these videos of results are.
Thank you, Michael, and I hope you had a wonderful Christmas
I would say the flerfs responded 100% the way we thought they would. With a resounding Nuh Huh!
Oh, they're certainly responding how we _thought_ they would. Just not how we'd _hoped_ they would.
You can lead a horse to water, but after that it's not really worth blaming you for the dehydrated horse corpse.
Well I don't know how _you_ thought they'd respond, but they're responding pretty much how I thought they would.
How did you think they would respond?
I can hear the flerfs. "The trip was faked. How can you be there for that whole time and never see any clouds?" Also flerfs when a clouds shadows a small part of the sundial: "See! You are just using 'clouds' as an excuse to hide the edits in your fake video."
The funniest thing I've heard in a while was where are the guns Nathan? 😂😂😂 Couldn't have said it better myself.
RUclips has over a MILLION videos a year - that one HAS to be in the top 10
I'm gonna be yelling that for next month at least.
A military free zone... with a military. Yeah that's about the kind of thing Nathan would pull out his ass 🤣
@@kyzercube since its IMPOSSIBLE to go to Antarctica - they MUST have gone to the OTHER one !!
@@markhellman-pn3hn In December... Arctic midnight Sun?🤣
Only one model can make predictions this accurate ahead of time that turn out to be true in reality. That's the model based on the globe.
And according to Witsit, flat earthers "don't have a model." Therefore, they can't even make predictions at all. What a complete failure.
"The Earth is a flat disk (see the AE map) where a small and local Sun and Moon circle above its surface orbiting the North Pole..." - the Generally Accepted Flat Earth Model
@@thudthud5423 He's referring to a theoretical model with which predictions can be made.
@@robinseibel7540 Exactly. With no predictive qualities it's more useless then toilet paper as a "model".
@@robinseibel7540 They don't understand science...at all. Which means sense because they don't believe in science either. If they believed in science, they could not simply discount 100s of years of astronomy. Note how they say NASA this and NASA that, which is a total failure to understand there's astronomers all over the globe, not just in the US, and who don't work for NASA. So they only way their belief system works is to think EVERYONE is lying. Which means there's no proving anything to them. Most of them seem to be trolls, or hopeless.
The best part about this, is that between Dave Mckeegan and you, I watched you do it live on the stream. The music is stunning.
Looks like a pretty good prediction of where the shadow would go
Jeran and Witsit probably helped with the placement of the snowballs using their knowledge of the flat earth model to predict the path of the sun over the 24 hrs.
@Stonemonkie1 lol the flat earth model that uses the globe
@@Stonemonkie1- you forgot the "/s", there are people who think you are being serious
@@Starhawke_Gaming I thought it would be too obvious, they thought the sun would set so where you gonna put the snowballs for night time?
Excellent work. And just think, at the south pole it would be a perfect circle. That is how the early explorers determined they were at the poles.
I don't think flat earthers are intelligent enough to even understand what this means.
Either way, they'll still claim "nuh uh!" and "CGI!"
Fantastic vid! Nicely done
There's a chance the Earth might be spherical.
Absolutely 0 possibility. Sorry fam
@lordbrahma-godWhat's your explanation for the sun dial prediction and observation here? Since you're watching this video and whatnot.
@lordbrahma-god Its OK, you can open your eyes now.
Water might be wet too. Just a chance...
@lordbrahma-god well, technically, you're right: the earth is a very slightly pear shaped oblate spheroid so it isn't actually a sphere. But other than that, what you said is imbecilic.
Very cool! That’s a beautiful song too.
Cry flerfs, cry.
They will, but unfortunately it'll be tears of rage
@@endleontiozae7061 More from splinters from the handles of their post hole diggers while moving the goalposts.
They can't as their tears cannot form due the fluid cannot curve.
i bet flerf don't understand what an amazing experiment/proof you show here. Most likely thinking it's just a timelapse of a 'shadow and randomly place snowballs'.
It's such a waste doing this just for the flerfs. For all the others it's just like: , looks nice, but no new information for me. Still jealous for this nice adventure ;-)
Most Flerfs seem to operate with the following definitions:
Experiment: Something that is setup to prove a flat earth and only flat earthers are capable of doing; unless it accidently proves a globe then it is not an experiment.
Proof/evidence: Something that has been interpreted, twisted, or completely and hopelessly misunderstood by a flat earther to demonstrate the earth is flat. Anything else that even indicates the Earth might be a globe is not evidence/ proof by definition.
I liked seeing the shadow of the camera tripod aligning with multiple flag marker poles during the sweep. 😊
@bobblum - don't forget the 24 small snowballs setup to designate the hours as the sundial traced it's trajectory around the path
That's what it is about. That's why the diagram is shown 10s into the video.
@@Starhawke_Gaming I was viewing on my phone, didn't see that detail, thanks for pointing it out!
@@horstomat I was multi-tasking, didn't see the diagram on my phone screen. My comment should probably have said "I _enjoyed_ seeing the shadow..." instead. I got that it was the point, but clinically viewing it and actually enjoying it is all the difference in the (spherical) world!
Such a beautiful eulogy, the ashes of FE will help a rose to bloom where once, only knotted weeds prevailed.
Oh no, two shadows passed over each other. Flatties will probably say, "that can't happen on a spinning, wobbling, tilting, water space ball!", or something stupid like that.
Otherwise, excellent timelapse of this very cool phenomenon.
And 12 hours later they're in alignment.
There are many shadow issues ... its a real problem u need to deal with if u wish to be honest
You sound just like a flat earther.@@InscentiveAdvice
@Bongofurry927 ur account looks just like a globe earthers 🤖 🤣
@@InscentiveAdvice Excuse after excuse, quit yapping, y’all gotta provide your own experiment and model now
such a beautiful song from a time lapse video of a 24 hour sun in Antarctica. 🌞🎦✔
Whoda thunk that watching shadows could be so interesting? Very cool!
No matter how much proof we show flerfers they will just say Nuh-Uh! You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.
Love the song.
Think of the shadow as the stationary thing, then observe the wonder of the earth turning beneath it. Great video👏
Not a squeak from Mark Sargent........🤔
he is speechless with admiration
hes too busy inventing new lies
He's one of the few Flat Earthers that has actually admitted to being a scammer. He's openly said that Flat Earthers are idiots.
Is he even a thing these days? He hasn't crossed my radar in years.
@@criskity he wisely decided to remain silent - when the rumor of Candace Owens hired someone to go on this trip
So beautiful, I saw those boulders and didn't understand what you're doing with them. They were perfectly placed in the right position! Great job 👏👍
Fantastic so big. Who knew you could make a sundial that big.
This was beautiful. Well done, Michael
I am stunned that the timing for this trip was so perfect. A few days different and it would have been a disaster in terms of the objectives. One is tempted to say “Thank God!” and mean it.
Never be tempted by lies. They may seem convenient and comforting in the moment.
@@YeetusaurusRex What lies?
@@profphilbell2075 god.
The flatearthers have already started moving the goalposts....
Did they ever stop?
Stunning footage and application of science. I’d love at some point you explain more the technicalities of it. Happy holidays and family time!
A prediction, come true right in front of you. That's gotta be a good feeling.
Camera: Powered by Flerf Tears
Sad thing is Flerfs do not understand how that destroys FE..
Has not we are still here and you are still being milked for the money this pig needs
Sorry... You continued that sentence.
You should have stopped at "flerfs do not understand". Period.
You can lead a Flat Earther to knowledge, but you can make him think.
@@Bobswife-v3n
Flerf desperation is a laugh a minute :) .
@@Bobswife-v3nPoor bob 😢
You guys couldn’t have asked for better weather conditions whilst out there, unbelievable timing, everything you needed from the sun you got without much cloud interference!
It's frightening that they think you where inside a huge dome.
Remember these people are also allowed in public. That’s scary.
I believe the dome is flat.
I say give them a copy of the Gleason and let them loose to search for the edge...
flat earthers, i dare you to walk to the edge of earth & show yourself throwing your phone off to space.
Wait till you see them all focussing on the cable and reposting low quality versions to try and find glitches.
Awesome. You guys are drip feeding Flerf destruction.
Flerf's opposing Antarctic experiment to show earth is flat? MIA
I was expecting something great, but after listening to this song three times, I am left speechless.
It is brilliant.
It adds to the video.
Thank you Mr. Toon
You guys just keep getting better and better!! Love these guys amazing contribution for truth and education. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Would be an honor to have a picture with all of you guys to hang on my wall. Will Duffy, Conspiracy Toonz, Dave Mckeegan and yes... even the Flet Earthers. Each one of them when in favor of truth. You guys rock!!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
What about Critical Think? Can I be in the picture too?
@CriticalThink You sir are amazing!! I regret not mentioning you. So sorry!! I would love to include you in the picture. 😊👌👍👍👍 Yoy ROCK sir!!
@@CriticalThink RUclips under recommends your channel hardcore dude, happy to see your channel, subbed now
don't you love an accurate prediction, although flerfs will probably lose their sheet over the bit where the clouds block it
Oh no, I feel rumbling. Sources explain seismic activity is being felt all around the globe from yet another collective moving of goal posts by flat earthers after watching this. It'll pass in a moment, after the flerfs decide the new locations for the posts. Stay safe everyone.
Funny thing, if the seismic activity was strong enough it would be picked up by seismographs all around the globe, further destroying the ridiculous flat earth claim.
You'll _never_ measure seismic activity caused by goalpost moving. The goalpost are already past the Kuiper-belt. Good luck trying to measure that.
To paraphrase from a Christmas Carol, "Flat earth was dead to begin with, make no mistake about that. Dead as a door nail. Mind I should think a coffin nail would be a more appropriate piece of iron mongery."
This is a beautiful thing you made.
I saw this "snow-henge" in two other videos, and was curious about it. I see now!! Cool!
Flerf tears are always flat and level.
Nothing could be more satisfying than watching Jeran and Austin defend these videos from the exact same ridiculous slanders they've been throwing at people for years. And Jeran will STILL tell you those other videos of the 24-hr sun were faked. I say Campanella is getting too much credit considering his big takeaway from this is to be even more angry at NASA.
This was beautiful. The song, the marks, the simplicity, the truth. I hope people would not fight so hard in order to keep their man made stories when only opening one's eyes is enough to understand how things really are. Thank you!
MCT stand by and wait for the Flerf BS to start. As you say "you have to lie to Flerf".
Beautiful music to a beautiful video Mike.
And another 65 inch nail in the coffin of flat earth.
Unfortunately, you are dead wrong. None of this will make a difference. The reason I say this is simple. FE's have ignored mountains of hard evidence of a globe for years prior to TFE. Why would any of us think this would be different? Can't anyone else see this! Having said that. Congratulations to the entire TFE crew.
At this point the coffin is nothing but nails
@@DanSimmons-s2fI don’t think any of us thought any differently than that, even before the trip happened. Lol, you could blast them into space and they’d still think earth was flat.
Great job Janos!
Now we need one from the equator on 20th March 2025 showing sunrise to sunset.
Better yet add two other locations to demonstrate the 24 hour straight line path of the sun along the equator during an equinox.
Then ask flerfs how the sun returns to where it starts travelling along a straight line on a non-rotating flat earth
Flat earth has left the building, R.I.P FE
flerfs really cant cry about anything anymore when they were unwilling to join this journey
There are some very determined conman grifting money off the gullible flerf's, so they will just invent more batshit crazy ideas to keep the money rolling in.
Question: is it possible to have Lisbeth or Jonathan on stream to discuss the trip? We always talk about Jeran and Austin, but I'm curious to hear the other two as well... they also seem both enjoyable, too.
Jonathan was on one of the streams - I think the one from Punta on the way back? Dave and Jon both joined Toon for a few hours.
@@AlsadiusSure, I remember it, but he mostly stayed there silent in teh background on his armchair 😂.
I had something more structured and "regular" in mind...
Loved the music. Nice touch. A lullaby for Flerfs to cry themselves to sleep with.
The video is powerful evidence for a globe Earth in at least three different ways:
1. The markers are in near-perfect placement, estimating the length of the center shadow for each hour of the 24 hours.
2. The shadows being cast by the markers and flags clearly demonstrate the proper meaning of vanishing point (from a single light source).
3. And, of course, the fact that a full rotation was made while the sun never set.
Brilliant work, Michael. Absolutely brilliant.
4. Everyone who went used the globe map the whole way to get there...
@@tjjones621 No argument, although that was not the intent of this particular video.
@@glennpearson9348 I don't know what you mean.
@@glennpearson9348this video is a powerful evidence of a globe hoax. We can clearly observe a local sun rotating above in circular motion, proving solar system doesn’t exist
@@glennpearson9348according to a globe and timezones model, Antarctica is all the way at the bottom and upside down. Yet the people are walking normal. Explain that
That song is perfect for this:
Preet Chandi live on BBC this morning from Antarctica talking about her training and the 24hr daylight there now and her previous expeditions to S Pole
I seen that too, made me laugh.
I have no idea how you did the maths for this (not my strong point) but it's damn impressive👏👏
EXCELLENT song choice
It's AI.
Yep. Auto-generated with prompts. But astonishingly beautiful and haunting.
@@Deletirium Not the lyrics.
@@maxine_q yes, agree
Beautiful
i think it's sad to deny the wonders of the universe :(.
The shadow path (calculated and real) is an ellipse, due to it being a plane section of the cone formed by the circular Sun path and the point of the gnomon. Someone tell Steven to put that in his model.
YEAH SCIENCE!
Just in the ineterests of balance, we should compare these results to what would have been predicted by the flat earth model. Oh yeah, silly me ...
Lamo! Jokes on you! We have no model, so we don't have to do anything! Just sit back, prop our feet up and laugh at globies!!!!
@@jessejones1420that's right, because flat earth isn't real.
@@jessejones1420That went right over your head, didn't it flerf?
You not having a model WAS the joke.
I can see why a genius like you thinks Earth is flat.
I do love how the cloud cover gradually dims everything and then gradually brints it back
You just know they will pick that apart and claim it’s edited.
@@leithal1546 you know, in a specific manner it *was* edited. Just not in the way they want to claim it is
THIS proves the globe 100%!! I think any flerf should say "OK, we were incorrect, it may indeed be a globe, this is not "Kind of correct, it is PERFECT". But I can dream. Thank You both for the prediction and all the hours put into the experiment! God bless you both, and to any flerf that decides to join reality. Respect! MAD respect!!
And yet you had god in your comment. Was that just an expression or you not being part of reality?
@@FanofMillan godspeed, god bless, omg, yea, I will go with an expression for Kevin, a fun habit, a loving poke at our dear ancestors.
Go science! Not "scientism", not "evolutionists", we don't do your reigions superstitious bullshit you guys. We do computers, cameras, smartphones, internet, and healthcare. /rant over lol
@@FanofMillan Yes, God. I am 55, spent my entire life researching science. Chances are I have forgotten more than you will ever learn. By the time I was 20. You do know Einstein was working on a formula to prove God even to his final breath, right? You have heard of the Golden Ratio, correct? This is all planned. If a simulation, the programmer would still be "God". Please capitalize "God" next time, and lets discuss. Because you have zero proof, God, does not exist.
@@rayfighterIncorrect. I am with Einstein, who believed there is a God. They are not polar opposites, in fact, he, and I, believe science and life only exist at all because of God. Be polite, capitalize "God" and lets discuss like adults. And yes, the Earth is a globe, we landed on the moon, etc. I am not an uneducated person.
@@FanofMillan Yes, God. I am 55, spent my entire life researching science. Chances are I have forgotten more than you will ever learn. By the time I was 20. You do know Einstein was working on a formula to prove God even to his final breath, right? You have heard of the Golden Ratio, correct? This is all planned. If a simulation, the programmer would still be "God". Lets discuss. Because you have zero proof, God, does not exist.
2:00 Oh look! The shadow disappears! See Gee EYE Green Screen!! (Oh, it's just a passing cloud)
I doubt flerfs understand how clouds work. Heck they probably think they are chem blobs installed by NASA space jews.
"It's not an experiment, it's an observation" cope incoming! 🌏🌍🌎
After all isn't an experiment comprised of observations? :3
If any flerf wants to offer this form of a defense as a cope, just cut and paste this.
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Experiment (n.): A scientific procedure undertaken to make a discovery, test a hypothesis, or demonstrate a known fact.
Hypothesis: For the fixed, known height of an object on (a globe) Earth at a specific location at a specific time, the sun will cast a calculable, predictable length shadow.
Null Hypothesis: There will be insufficient change in the length of the shadow to determine if small errors in calculation of the shadow's distance, or the placement of the markers, render the measurements statistically meaningless.
Experimental design: (1) Calculate the distances and directions of the shadow for each hour in a full day, noting that for many places on the globe Earth the shadow's length is incalculable due to the sun's decent below the horizon, (2) Mark these calculated, predetermined distances and directions, (3) Make observations about the shadow's length and direction over the 24-hour period.
Observation: Carefully observe time of day and shadow's length relative to the predetermined locations of the placed markers.
Conclusion: The observations support the hypothesis, while refuting the null hypothesis in that the change in shadow length over the period of observation is statistically meaningful as compared to the minor errors in placing the markers (the shadow length varied in distance from just over 700cm to around 249cm). Actual error, by observation was less than 10cm (1.5% to 4% of actual measured, predicted length at any point over the 24 hour period).
This experiment was brilliant in conception. Especially given the location where it was performed.
That's way cool! Bravo Toon!!
Shadows debunk every moon landing denier who brings up that shadows are not parallel
Its almost like Jeran and Austin did nothing on the trip. Did they just sit around and let globers do everything??
Flerfs are highly 24-hour sun intolerant.
If exposed, they instinctively burry their heads in the snow.
Pretty much. But this way they can say it wasn't actually an experiment
@@Ron-l9d what a shame, they didn't even try anything. They have nothing to offer
They did a few basic things, like verifying that the plane flew south from Chile, but really their main role was to watch the Team Globe experiments and certify that there were no shenanigans. They did that just fine, so I've got no real complaints there.
@@nateswan9527they also set up 3 different cameras of their own,including a mount they had tracking the sun. One of the cameras wasn't happy with the cold and failed. Not sure when they are planning to release footage from the other two.
Absolutely beautiful! I want to see flerfs excuses for this, or their tears (possibly both).
predicted and verified, awesome job Toon
Beautiful. Predicted using Math and evidenced by humans (including some Flerfs)
What a wonderful song too!❤
MCToon wrote the lyrics and AI wrote the song.
Requiem for the flat Earth.
The beauty of science and math 😊
My telescope pictures of the sun and moon are with Will.
Watch all the Flerfs have an aneurysm working this one out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They won't even try. They'll see the cable and completely focus on that claiming that it's all fake because they don't understand how 360 cameras work.
Me: Waiting for the flerfers to say the earth IS a globe,... but only in Antarctica.
@@bobleonheart9600 They'll not even reach that point in the video, they'll get stuck at the 74°S error
That's easy for them. They will just claim It was filmed in the same studio as the other material.
waiting for some fler to say "oh no the shadows are not parallel...studio confirmed"
They've BEEN saying it lol.
I've seen several videos point to the two meter sticks he was using as shadows that shouldn't be there 😅😂😂
Beautiful Mike
Who knows what geometry lurks in the shape of Earth? THE SHADOW KNOWS!
Yeah, like the shadow of a spheroid when there's a lunar eclipse.