This Many Spotify Streams Makes Artists Only $1 🤦🏽♂️
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Imagine making $1 off 10 streams lol
Imagine streaming more than 10 streams in a millisecond cause drake is streaming 10 million PER HOUR on Spotify alone (not accounting apple,youtube,Amazon)and this guy is lowballing how many stream people in the industry really get
If that was the case no matter how big of a following you got you would make alot of money because I can’t tell you how much times I’ve listening to the same song over and over
@@Smokecorleone415 that was only the first 24h after his album dropped, but tbh he probably gets like 4-5mil streams per hour.
@@Jdnexx Spotify is one of the worst, if not the worst paying streaming service out there. They severly underpay their artists and the numbers shown in the video are pretty wrong. Pharell Williams for example only made 12k for 48mil streams on happy
Lol the money always ends up in the same hands
“If 10 streams is 4 cents than surely 50 is a dollar”😂😂😂
Black logic 😂
@@vhjul6016 Excuse me?
@@louismoore6004 2+2=4 is racist remember. Whatever math in is head is woke
@@wmiller7208 Well woke math is nonsense. That 5 crap is crazy. But why the black logic? You didn't say it. I'm just lost.
@@wmiller7208 Stop.
That's actually really good. This is misleading
Its only for the listeners that listen for a specific amount of time which only probably like 30% do
@@franko2205 still, that's a really good margin
Broooo where have you been man
@@octopus8420 nah you can sale a 10 song album for $15 and make a better deal.. its about turn over rate
@@makemeajmod ya because so many people buy albums these days..
His genuine confusion and surprise at the easily predictable results is sad and endearing at the same time
It’s not genuine confusion tho
If ten gives you 4 cents it’s obvious 250 gives you 1
Stupidity isn’t endearing unless you are stupid too
Make more selling water traffic light lol
It's obvious that math was not his favorite class.
was for anybody tho 😂
@@dailyclipping15 yes. Your mom
@@pickleddolphinmeatwithhors677 boo THIS GUY STINKS
@@dailyclipping15 i love math
@@dailyclipping15 math is cool as a genius
Well depression isn't on the other hand
Edit: I should say it diffrent having depression is shit when doing math
You just can't concentraid
I really like your use of the guess and test method to solve a simple, single variable equation.
You mean the Better way
@@wzrdbeatzz4317 😂😂😂😂 the “better” way that takes 5x longer 😂
@@stefanwei9964 yea that one
Your brain is basically biologys mathematical equation masterpiece
I was thinking the same thing lol
It’s embarrassing how surprised he is that doubling the streams doubles the return
I don’t think he cares
i think its dramatic effect
That's not bad. Absolutely no physical overheads from Spotify streaming.
I mean yeah but also the time and cost of actual production, depending on how large scale your production is or the time it takes you to make stuff you can make a pretty bad return, certainly nothing livable for 99% of musicians
@@redsharp2 cost of production is always factored in. This will not be their only form of revenue. To receive any money from streaming is good.
The number are also completely wrong and way lower, there is also a difference between song length and what , you get paid
Accountants assemble. 💪🏼💪🏼
@@AndyPlaysGolf yes very true
The fact this man has to do the math between 50, 100, and 200 is mind boggling. It doubles so the money doubles… ratios.
Makes for a better video....
@@bigloads3600 only for incredibly slow people.
It strange you think you are smart with that comment. It is never stated that money is in direct proportion to the number of streams through the whole scale. Even though it started like that, what if at a certain number of streams, the money starts increasing by a different ratio. It is possible that other variables could come into play the more streams you get.
So unless you are told that the streams are directly proportional to the money through out the whole scale, you cannot be sure.
You probably one of those people that think that if 5 eggs boils in 5mins, then 10 eggs will boil in 10mins- or if 1 man does a job in 2hrs, then 2 men will do it in 1hr. Lol
@@echochamberdisrupter2852 yes but there'd be no way for a simple third party calculator to solve for variables that are determined by individual artist deals and the assumption he made ended up being the correct one so your entire argument is pointless.
This was hard to watch lol, and that's actually pretty good. 250 for a dollar? Some of these artist got 100s of millions of streams.
Yeah, if you have a song with 1b+ its 4mil$
And it just one platform imagine multiple platform
@@mikkelrolsson can you jack up the numbers by getting your friends and family to listen multiple times or is it unique to each Spotify account and you can technically only stream it once?
@@Ryan-cb1ei it’s per play not per listener. So yes you can have your friends and family play your song.
@@mikkelrolsson 40**
You’re acting like a single stream every artist gets should be treated like “I made it, I’ll be rich in no time”
rite💀💀
Imagine not realizing just how many people use Spotify everyday. It's better than pirating
imagine not realising people can digitally rip content...😂😂🤣
@@aBOOBaMUSIC nobody does though, because of Spotify it’s drastically fallen
@@aBOOBaMUSIC .. That's why they said "it's better than pirating". It's so cheap to access literally everything, why the fuck would you pirate music in 2021?
@@aBOOBaMUSIC why would I go through the trouble of ripping a song when I can just search in on Spotify?
@@aBOOBaMUSIC bruh I use to do nothing but pirate music. I still remember the limewire days.
There's really no reason to do so anymore. Everything is on Spotify or youtube. Why put yourself at risk for viruses when you can already get it for free basically
As soon as 50 got him 20, I wouldve thought his mind would automatically know to just plug in 250 lol.
That's why he's a musician lol
common sense isn't so common these days
Theres a simple explanation - the guy is thick as fuck.
Who knows, it's better to be exact because more streams might pay out better than normal
Or he was just doing the math so for everyone. The entire world doesn’t know everything like y’all do.
That makes complete sense. There's only so much money to go around. The people with millions of listens would be way overpaid.
Only so much money to go around? That's the brokest sentence I heard in my whole life. 💰 Is infinite. Ask the label getting most of that dollar
@@MrArtVein money is infinite? Go to the countries where a loaf of bread costs a hundred thousand dollars and you'll see what infinite money gets you
@@MrArtVein POV you don't know what inflation is
@@MrArtVein damn bro economics is not your strength.
No it doesn't, Spotify take the majority of the money. It used to be that musicians would make hundred of millions, now they make peanuts.
Which is why it makes no senses for artists to sign with a label anymore😢
I’d literally play my own shit on repeat or shuffle or just turn the volume down and let it play all night while I sleep
I don’t think that’s how it works🤣🤣
Ip address, would need a vpn then maybe
Still better than the 'nothing' they make when their mp3's get copied.
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I mean if 25 people have your song on a playlist , they would end up listening to it around 20-30 times each, ending in 3-4 dollars from just 25 people. not bad, but not good. also ads are a thing
ads exist only so spotify can still make money off of non premium spotify users, ads won’t make an artist any money
(on spotify at least)
For an artist, the bigger value in Spotify isn’t the money per stream. It’s the exposure of getting new fans to listen to your music. Spotify does an incredible job of putting unknown artists in front of probable new fans. I can’t even tell you how many unknown artists I’ve discovered because Spotify put them in my daily playlists or my discover weekly playlists. And several of those artists got my money through concert tickets and merch after I discovered them. So yeah a small band maybe made $0.50 off me from streams, but add the concert ticket and a shirt that would be a super unlikely purchase without Spotify and now you’re turning bigger profits per fan.
k spotify shill
I’ve gotten 1193 streams in total out of all 3 of my songs so far and I’ve made something around 5 bucks
hellll yeah!!!!! ay man who else do you know made $5 off of making CREATIVE content. keep it up and it will be $50 then $500 then $500,000 then $5,000,000. u got this
5k on spotify and I made just below $20
Tough gig
@@hamable1995 for him to make 5,000,000$, he needs 250,000,000 plays. Theres not even that many people living in Texas bruh
@@Nazareth07. 7 billion people in the world though. And typically people listen to a song more than once. So if you had 30 mil people listen to your song 5 times then you get 250mil views
I feel guilty even supporting Spotify at this rate.
I like how he doesn’t do the math to realize if 10 is .04 then 50 will be 5x that.
I was going to write a comment until I seen yours 😂😂
Bro, how much do you think they would make? That is an incredible price (no joke intended) for the artist. I know for a fact that if my video were to get 250 veiws I would not get a dollar.
Yeah but you have to think about the money they would make from physical media.
@@wornstrat5517 you mean like if I buy a cd and they only make a dollar then I can listen as many times as I want?
Traditionally the artists made their money from concerts.
@@wornstrat5517 there's a reason why that trend died tho. No one wanted to pay 15-20 dollars for a couple of songs anymore. Tours and merchandise is where the money come from now.
@@kaliforhnia6639 you obviously dont listen to metal lmao. Cds and even vinyls are very much still a thing. There is no better way to support small artists than buying their cd.
Some street musicians out there definitely make more money than some gigless artists on spotify.
This dudes math skills are amazing! Only took him 6 tries to figure out the question! 🤣
why are u nit picking random shit
Exactly what bitch would say… That dude has put out a Mountain of Valuable info for anyone to get paid right.. as best as they can…
Maybe he should teach you two mouth breathers how to spell.
Shallow and pedantic 🤦🏽♂️
@@OL4___ was that English?
damn i thought it would be more like a thousand streams for a dollar, this is really good
no it isn’t
From my personal experience with Spotify it's more like $1 for every 500 streams, I've had about 150k streams total and I've earnt about half of what this calculator reckons
I guess Spotify takes 50%?
@@NoboTheAlmightyHobo I’m sure enough repeats and it stops counting, or it’s worth less per stream in other countries, that’s what someone said
Damn 150k streams sounds like a lot and you only made $300, guess it will still increase over time though, and you can make multiple songs, and perhaps you’ll get more popular
@@Ryan-cb1ei I'm pretty sure it depends on whether it's Spotify premium or normal streams
It’s actually dependent on the artist themselves, between 0.001-0.003 per stream, which means on average it’s going to take 1000 streams in most cases for an artist to generate $1
1k streams for any artist with an established fan base isn't anything.
@@itspapaj4732 that’s still only a dollar though. Meaning to make $100 you’d need 100k streams which isn’t crazy but that’s still a decent amount for only a hundred dollars.
@@Boreganic not it's not. Back when you sold albums bands got a couple dollars royalty for each record, now they get pennies... big difference
But Honestly with the amount of people who use Spotify (165 million paid users) not including those that use the free service which gets revenue from ads, it's alot easier for artists to make themselves known and earn money compared to them getting signed.
And you forget multiple replays and the fact the artists probably have their music on RUclips and several other streaming platforms.
That’s good because say if drake puts a song out and gets 10 million streams he’s gonna get paid 40,000 and that’s most likely within the first day.
It’s not that simple
Imagine having to use a calculator to calculate how the difference between 100 and 200 streams.
He was proving a point yall kids aren’t the smartest 😂😂😂
Us unsigned artists feel the pain for sure
So "shape of you" by Ed Sheeran has 2.9 billion plays. 2.9B/250 = 11.6 million dollars.
That's not bad for just one song.
Music artists are not going hungry lol.
And thats just one song, on one streaming platform
>music artists are not struggling
>"Look at the biggest artist in the world"
Doing the math nets a song that gets 1 million streams 4000 dollars. Given that it's a challenge to get a million streams once, and out of 8 million artists on Spotify, only 13,000 get paid more than $50,000 a year, it should go without saying that these payouts are super undercut.
Yeah it seams like he was trying to make a point for small artist, but I think they mostly do it to get their music out there, gain some exposure.
@@Angelo-r-b well most of the "artists" are irrelevant people that made songs from home that no one wants to listen to. Music is a product. If no one wants your product its not the apps fault
Actually the record labels gets at least 90% of the streams. He earns money off touring, merch, and endorsements.
They are still trying to keep the artists broke. Shame. Artists woke up to start fighting to own their masters. Now they need to wake up to not putting their music on these streaming sites with these LOW BALL RATES!!
But remember: One person is likely to listen to a song multiple times, if they like the song.
Right
You’d be surprised at how few songs you’ve actually heard 200 times. Listening to a 3 minute song 200 times is 10 hours.
Songs are what 3-5 minutes? Lets use five to keep it simple. 250 streams of a 5 minute song is 1,250 minutes of streaming that's is 20 hours and 50 minutes straight of streaming a song for 1dollar, get your self 100 instances of spotify to play that song all day every day and boom over 100 dollars a day.
Short songs learn how sp count streams
These artists be making bank from my repeating single ass lmfao
That makes complete sense... if you break it down, Spotify is paying well. I pay $10cad/month for Spotify. The amount of streams I do during that time really breaks it down. Spotify has overhead as well. .. If you only have 250 streams of one song, then you're not in the position to be making much at all. Keep grinding. Make more music, and expand that library. If people like your shit, you keep compounding.. Makes complete sense
These numbers are actually off, you make around 220 cad off 5k views
This only compliments independent artists. This doesn't account for royalty cuts from their labels which hoard most of their money anyways.
@@harmz7892 would you agree though that's not Spotify's responsibility. That's an issue between the label and artist.
Y'all missing the point debating about math skills.
that's not bad at all. you make on average $4 for every 1000 views on a RUclips. considering if people will replay the song multiple times if they like it $4 per 1000 listens is great
Robbery at its finest
I swear I've given multiple artists at least $50 each lmao
It was somewhat painful and humbling watching this guy work through simple multiplications
Is that after tax or before?
Dude he's just trying to stretch the clip over 2 seconds - how long it's supposed to be lol - and to appeal to the bottom thirds internet
@@henris8367 before taxes
That’s pretty reasonable, I was expecting it to be a lot higher than 250
1 billion streams = $4million
Imagine a listener paying 25$ for an album, and playing it once, and launching it out the window. These artists now make money from people hating their shit.
That's a different perspective to think about lol. But you say now like that's new. Radio stations been on the same mess and if you bought trash back in the day you just went to the cd game exchange and traded it for something else
That's why people had to make good music instead of trashy low effort music that's popular now
I know here in Aus 100.000 plays is $1k I remember an Aussie artist explaining how much they make
Not me just putting songs on repeat for hours 🥴😂
Because artists don’t just make money from Spotify. Ads, promo, merch, label, meet and greet (are those even a thing anymore?😂), and especially tours are where the money is.
Artists DO make money from Spotify. Are you dumb? Every billion listens is like 4 million dollars
@@Kingbaylei if you look at what I said, I said “artists don’t JUST make money from Spotify” I never said they didn’t.
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Top tip; it’s better to buy the particular song/album as the artist will get more from it. Or go to their live shows!
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“Let’s make it so music siphons all the worlds money by making it a dollar a stream.” The logic people put in their heads is funny
Sounds like a good profit margin when tens of millions of people are using it and after you put out the song you don’t have to do anything for the rest of your life
Well by this ratio this means you'll only make 4 million from 1 billion streams
Yeah, but for the guys with smaller audiences, it’s not even worth it
@@judemitchell9410 bruh even if you only make a couple thousand a month that’s some good ass passive income, I’ll take it
@@Ryan-cb1ei yah but this isnt passive income this is these peoples careers and they are definitely hard working
@@judemitchell9410 To some people. Most artists are aspiring artists, gotta have some main job
Honestly I would have expected it to be more like a couple thousand streams
Chinese kids are doing calculus right now
Insane, I wish artist would fight this more, but people are definitely starting to wake up
Imagine buying a 10$ CD, splitting rev with publisher, retailer, and artist and making 0 additional money EVER regardless of listens.
Literally only non-artists think Spotify a scam
Spotify is a scam though for artists
@@Og_paine if you like Spotify so much why don’t you work for them
Much easier than selling mix tapes on the street
I have 1000+ songs in my playlist and I have listened to them at least 50 times each… 250 streams for a dollar? Damn that’s good
Spotify almost certainly makes more than $1 per stream.
That’s why they’re the big ass business and people be single artists. Without Spotify they’d be peddling mixtapes, which would inherently be better.
Spotify is not making $1 per stream 💀💀 are you slow
This dude is bad at math if he knows 10 = 0.04 and confirmed it scaled by going to both 50 and 100 to see it went up exactly as you'd expect, he can easily calculate you need 250 streams to get $1.
Good thing that there’s 100s of millions of music fans in the world
Spotify does not pay exactly who you are listening too, but more like a leader board.
this is why people need to at least know algebra😭😭
Thats not even algebra thats like 4th grade lol
10 listens equals 4 cents..1/25th of a dollar....... let's do 4 more steps before reaching 250
Yeah, but when a song is extremely famous, it’s gonna earn that artist tonnes of money. I’d be happy earning that.
Not likely, if they're signed.
@@bellasecretsify
They’d still get a great chunk. I don’t know anyone who would turn it down.
@@MR.ICE. I would if I knew I would be getting ripped off in the process. Famous artists aren't as rich as you'd think they are. If they're signed (which most are), they're most likely making only half if less than what they're actually worth. A famous artists' only hope of getting by is by milking different avenues (acting, appearing on tv, beauty line, clothing line, etc.) because they don't make enough off their music to sustain their careers. It's a sad reality. You'd take it, because 100K is a good chunk, but if you didn't bite the bait and figured out how to do it without signing, you'd make a hell of a lot more. Labels are in it for the money, basically reducing an artists' career down to a job. Thank you, next.
1million plays is $400,000 🤯
That's actually old ass information.. it used to be 0.43 cents (Spotify rate, it differs from DSP to DSP) when I started releasing music on DSPs 2018.. nowadays it's about 0.23 cents per stream (on Spotify).. so yeah, I'm slowly getting to the bag these days with 150k+ streams every month but it's been a long way!
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Spotify per stream rate has never been above a penny. You’re wrong. On so many levels.
@@DorianGroup82 Dorian my man.. you gotta actually read my comment! 😁 I said 0.43 / 0.23 CENTS Not Dollar.. so 0.0043 / 0.0023 $..
@@DorianGroup82 so yeah, I‘m definitely 100% correct with my statement, no doubt about it! 🤣🤷🏽♂️ with that being said I really appreciate your content & gems.. helped me to get those 150k+ streams every month! 🙏🏼
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And yet Imagine those paying for Spotify play listing $100 for a month in a non Spotify playlist. It’s a lose-lose model unless you’re okay with going negative (bad business model)
I mean yeah Spotify was loosing money until 2018 or 2019 I think but that was the plan
They say elephants work for peanuts 😮.
Which is why I buy the music I like from small artists and stream the big named.
That’s more money than RUclips gives though, so when you really think about it, it’s not bad
Not really
If only one person was listening than yeah, but usually there are millions of people listening so it adds up a lot daily
That's actually really good. RUclipsrs get paid like $1 per thousand views
that’s way more than i thought
Is nobody gonna mention the fact he’s literally Ice Cube?
So 10,000,000 streams comes out to $40,000 dollars; that seems like a pretty decent amount to me. Imagine you put out an LP with 10 songs and each song gets 10,000,000 streams- that's $400,000 before album sales, performances, and merchandising. Pretty good money.
Songs on an album don't get equal listens - this goes as far as the era of selling CDs. Only the catchiest of songs get a repeat, fans will have their faves that they replay while others are a skip. And your record has to hold a fan's attention span for repeated listens or the relistens wear off on a scale/graph. Few artists can make cohesive albums where majority of songs are liked by the fan for them to listen to majority of the songs. On platforms like Spotify, after first exposure it's only the title tracks that rack up large streaming numbers. And people like variety instead of listening to just one artist, so your song is in a playlist along with hundred others. Gl getting repeated streams by one person.
CEO of algebra
Math just entered the chat 😅
Spotify works on a percentage game, too. So let's say I have, in one month, 10% of the streams in California. Say there were 1m streams in cali in that month. I'm actually gonna receive 10% of whatever those million streams actually earned. So the rate per stream changes based on geographic area and percentage. The average, like someone else said, is still the average- half a penny, all the way to 3 cents. It's pretty wild! If you make the right business model for yourself, streaming can make lots of money, but for most artists, streaming isn't where the biggest money is, at first. It's all up in the air, really.
What if a major artist like Drake decided to go independent, takes all his music off all streaming platforms. And put them on his website and charges .50 to purchase one song and $5 to buy an entire album and $10 for the deluxe version? Just imagine how huge of a move that would be, He would change the whole game by himself if he did that. And make major bank while doing it
That’s how you get piracy back lol
@@kicadjo that actually gave me an idea what if you release music as an NFT then people can do with it as they please and the artist still gets paid everytime its sold. I think Tory Lanez did something like this or tried to. But yeah that would take care of the piracy aspect of it
@@VillaThaVillain no lie somebody probably already thought of this. It's an excellent idea tho 🔥🔥
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@@TacticalReaper56 I was wondering when the undeserving drake hate would come😂
Sounds fair. RUclips is usually like $1 for 700-1000
There are so many talented people out there I’m glad I live in an age where a low end producers can get songs into my ears without having to get a record label and be out on the radio
If this is accurate… Ed Sheeran would’ve made over $11.5 million off of his song “Shape Of You” alone…
That’s absurd
Not bad at all, even compared to RUclips's rates on non music videos. How are people complaining about this?
What's sad is it affects people who are starting but benefits people like Taylor swift drake and Ed sheeran who all are not short on income to begin with.
I listen to the same song like 10 times a day or more and there's definitely thousands like me for each song every day. If 10k people are listening to something of yours on a playlist they go through maybe 10 times a day you're making 400$ a day passively.
That's 365 days a year depending on if you're releasing decent stuff regularly, and you're making 5 figures a year. This doesn't seem like a bad deal at all.
Now 10k loyal listeners every day is a lot for a small band but you gotta add up all the single listens as well as the maniacs who listen 100+ times a day sometimes cram studying.
Once you understand how much Spotify actually makes it'll be all clear. Spotify doesn't really make a lot of money from the streams they make money from the memberships. That's why when title launched they kept fluffing their numbers because they wanted to make it look like they had a certain amount of numbers using their service in order to create hype
Now you know why most artist don't want their music on spotift
250 = $1
Worst then them "1/2 a cent" deals back in the days! Smh
Where's the protest???
"The machine" never stop the BS😡
If I had to pay monthly for my ears to hear sound, I would definitely listen to sounds I enjoy lots of times. Even if I personally won't do 250 times in a month, 100 people listening to it 3 times would give you more than 1 dollar. And I know for a fact, songs you like the sound of you've already listened to more than 6 times.
"Sound of"? You mean the beat?
@@Nazareth07.yes.
Makes sense to me.
250 is not a lot people.
Wait till he finds out the RUclips rate
Makes a lot of sense actually if no one is listening to your song what’s the point of paying
That’s actually really high if that’s accurate, youtube isn’t even close to that
That’s actually way lower than I thought it’d be. Figured it’d be 1000 per $1
there’s no way you couldn’t do the math after you read that 50 streams is .20 cents. like literally multiply by 5
1 mill streams only 4k$ is that before the label get they cut of so that's crazy
I’m nickeling and diming out here the struggle is real 😭
Leave the shit on repeat while you're asleep thats what i do