After watching a million of these shorts struggling to provide a sufficient explanation delineating between the two, I think I agree with Israetel that there is basically zero difference
Basically just keep your leg as straight aas possible while going down as far as possible. Or if you care about rep consistency keep your legs as straight as possible while barely touching the ground
I was taught (1980’s) stiff leg deadlifts was to be done with knees locked n u did not touch the floor unless u had the flexibility to do so. I guess times have changed.
In a stiff leg deadlift you should bend your knees as little as possible. When you bend your knees your hamstrings can't do work and your glutes take over.
@@mcquadextx he’s def capable of putting his knees back, there’s more than one variation. This demo is the type of stiff leg where it would be possible to load it heavy. When you keep the knees back obviously you’d have to lighten the load because that is one of the hardest movements out there. It’ll absolutely fuck you up if you go slow eccentric with just 135 for 12-15 reps
This is correct. The "stiff leg" part will look diffrent for different ppl bc of anatomy and proportions. Most ppl don't realize there is going to be a tiny bit of knee flexion in the SLDL otherwise it becomes more of a lower back dominant exercise rather than hamstring focused
The explanation is good, his knee flexion on the SLDL is deeper than most people's would be because of levers (long torso, short legs), not because technique is incorrect. Your legs are flexed, not locked, otherwise the spine would have to flex and the whole thing would be wonky.
@@aaronmgriffin Since i'm guessing you're very new to lifting here's a nice video explaining how to do it: ruclips.net/video/VL5Ab0T07e4/видео.html you can see how your knees want to extend over the bar at the bottom and you want an almost 90 degree angle. So like i said, it's like a leg press at the bottom. Keep it up bro proud of ya!
I thought the stiff leg dead lift was a deadlift from the floor with relatively straight legs. And an RDL was similar motion but it started at the top and never touched the ground.
I heard that romanian dl was invented by this guy named Roman, and he lifted stones so he invented it so he would not have to pick that rock of the ground after each Rep, so he never lowered it to the ground but did his reps just below his knees, dont know if its bullshit or not,
I prefer to really try and place as much emphasis on hamstrings as possible by pointing toes straight and driving hips back as far as possible. If you havr the flexibility and core stability, you can really isolate ur hamstrings in a way that you dont with a traditional deadlift
no, a stiff leg deadlift is just what it sounds like: "STIFF must the leg be" ! Legs should be BENT to a degree that allows you to put the bar down, then you lift IN THAT LEG POSITION all the way up, without straightening your legs. Romanian deadlift instead focuses on keeping the legs as straight as possible to emphasize low back and hamstring (even calves!) strength while stretched; obviously, you can't quite touch down in that straight leg position, and *that's* WHY you don't.
That is not a straight/stiff leg deadlift at all. A straight leg deadlift is exactly that, straight legs. Essentially a good morning with the load infront of you. What he did was just two RDLs with a shorter range of motion. A stiff leg deadlift doesn't allow you to use as much weight becuase its easer to round the low back so have to focus on lower weight with better form
Will a long femur person’s conventional DL look similar to a SLDL? Asking because i have long femurs and when i do conventional my hips end up pretty high up anyway
Stiff leg deadlift focus much more on extending you knees while hinging, hence lengthening and loading the hamstring much more than RDLS or other deadlift variations. Foot positioning can also affect the focus on bent knee, wide stance-hip extension in which the glutes and the adductors dominate or extended knee, closer stance-hip extensio in which the hamstrings dominate.
I personally never saw the benefit of Stiff leg and the romanian does everything Stiff leg does...but I argue is safer, and you can also do more weight.
Nah RDL is when you do not bend your knees unlike a SLDL in which you bend your knees a little to start in your normal deadlitf position SLDL s difference from deadlift is you dont lower your hips at the start of the lift to incorporate more quads and get some strech reflex out of your legs.So in RDL there is ZERO quad activation and generally a arched back to prestrech the hamstrings and no touching the ground making it a good hamstring streching exercise while SLDL is a deadlift without leg drive used as a accesory to build up a stronger deadlift and work mainly the glutes
The Romanian deadlift (also known as the RDL) was developed by a Romanian weightlifter named Nicu Vlad with the intention of working on lower back and hamstring strength and to build power for pulling movements. I dont expect like a chinese to understend romanian culture 😂😂😂
It's sooo funny to me personally that it's called romanian dead lift now that I know who came up with it. I bet the dude hardly knows any romanian at all. Good on him though for reminding the worl that my country exists. Should have been called Szekely dead lift though 😂
Dang it I was told it was invented by some kid named Roman who was lifting rocks and his mom told him to cut down on the noise so he stopped dropping them every rep 😢
I thought the reason it’s called stiff legged is because you knees barely bend? Hence “stiff”. I understand that not everyone has the hamstring flexibility and mobility to pull it off, it’s just a variation that not everyone can do but can choose to work towards.
Et tu, Eugene? Enough with this utterly useless distinction. Minor variations on exercises don't need nationalized nomenclature. From here on it's a standing hip hinge: so it shall be written, so it shall be done.
I swear you could ask 20 different coaches what a SLDL is, and you would get 23 different answers
Jeff Nippard says the SLDL has the plates touch the ground with a much straighter leg and RDLs stop around mid shin level. I totally agree with you
One is more hamstring the other is more flute that’s it
This guy looked almost like a regular deadlift haha
So true. One lift touches the weight to the ground, the other reaches shin level. Yeah, and?
I feel the same way with lateral raises
These two always vary, depending on who you ask but this is the weirdest definition of stiff-legged Deadlift I've seen.
Yes. I thought the difference was about the bent knees 😮
@@rupsamukherjee3679seems depending on a person's anatomy some Stuff leg dead lift can have a little knee flexion
@@rupsamukherjee3679 more knee bent more glutes activation and less knee bent more hamstrings
It's funny because he says "keep your legs straight," but he's clearly bending his knees in order to get the bar to the ground.
After watching a million of these shorts struggling to provide a sufficient explanation delineating between the two, I think I agree with Israetel that there is basically zero difference
Basically just keep your leg as straight aas possible while going down as far as possible.
Or if you care about rep consistency keep your legs as straight as possible while barely touching the ground
Best I've seen is that RDL starts from the top and SLDL from the ground.
I was taught (1980’s) stiff leg deadlifts was to be done with knees locked n u did not touch the floor unless u had the flexibility to do so. I guess times have changed.
That would be the straightleg deadlift...which in this day is almost never done.
@@LoveLikeaHurricane they were the same thing. Straight and stiff mean the same.
In a stiff leg deadlift you should bend your knees as little as possible. When you bend your knees your hamstrings can't do work and your glutes take over.
Maybe that is his legs bent as little as possible. Your not his anotomy. Simples.
@@mcquadextx maybe but it seems he's defining it based on rom instead of knee bend which is(in my opinion) not a very useful definition
@@mcquadextx he’s def capable of putting his knees back, there’s more than one variation. This demo is the type of stiff leg where it would be possible to load it heavy. When you keep the knees back obviously you’d have to lighten the load because that is one of the hardest movements out there. It’ll absolutely fuck you up if you go slow eccentric with just 135 for 12-15 reps
OP knows what’s up.
Seconded. At least in my vocabulary when comparing Stiff-leg (hamstring-centric) vs Romanian (glute-ish-centric) deadlifts.
Guess it's just semantics?
No,the stiff legged Deadlift means your knee doesn't move through the movement unlike a Romanian Deadlift
This is correct. The "stiff leg" part will look diffrent for different ppl bc of anatomy and proportions. Most ppl don't realize there is going to be a tiny bit of knee flexion in the SLDL otherwise it becomes more of a lower back dominant exercise rather than hamstring focused
You said straight leg and bent your leg sooo much , you basically just did rdls on both sldl and rdl.
He had said straight leg when pratice it
The explanation is good, his knee flexion on the SLDL is deeper than most people's would be because of levers (long torso, short legs), not because technique is incorrect. Your legs are flexed, not locked, otherwise the spine would have to flex and the whole thing would be wonky.
Your SLDL just looks like a normal DL
there needs to be more knee flexion for it to be a normal deadlift
watch the hips stay high
I would say definitely not. Normal deadlifts you want to basically leg press at the bottom, otherwise you rise fucking up your back.
@@fVNzO your back is not made of glass. How much do you deadlift to be proclaiming such things?
@@aaronmgriffin its very abnormal to deadlift with a rounded lower back and little to no bend in the knees at the bottom. That's it lil bro.
@@aaronmgriffin Since i'm guessing you're very new to lifting here's a nice video explaining how to do it: ruclips.net/video/VL5Ab0T07e4/видео.html you can see how your knees want to extend over the bar at the bottom and you want an almost 90 degree angle. So like i said, it's like a leg press at the bottom. Keep it up bro proud of ya!
I'm convinced this dude just likes to show off his level 4 gyatt
What's that?
@@MichL_71 gyatt is slang for ass
RDL was developed by Nicu Vlad actually. But close enough.
Which was why it was called the romanian DL.
Thank you. I thought I was doing rdls but I was going to the ground and hurting my back
I thought the stiff leg dead lift was a deadlift from the floor with relatively straight legs. And an RDL was similar motion but it started at the top and never touched the ground.
That's what he said?
That is exactly what he said though...
Ur right.
I heard that romanian dl was invented by this guy named Roman, and he lifted stones so he invented it so he would not have to pick that rock of the ground after each Rep, so he never lowered it to the ground but did his reps just below his knees, dont know if its bullshit or not,
It's fake, a Romania invented it
And what if you stand on plates, for more floor height?
I prefer to really try and place as much emphasis on hamstrings as possible by pointing toes straight and driving hips back as far as possible.
If you havr the flexibility and core stability, you can really isolate ur hamstrings in a way that you dont with a traditional deadlift
no, a stiff leg deadlift is just what it sounds like: "STIFF must the leg be" ! Legs should be BENT to a degree that allows you to put the bar down, then you lift IN THAT LEG POSITION all the way up, without straightening your legs.
Romanian deadlift instead focuses on keeping the legs as straight as possible to emphasize low back and hamstring (even calves!) strength while stretched; obviously, you can't quite touch down in that straight leg position, and *that's* WHY you don't.
Eugene bro? When targeting hypertrophy would you suggest not locking out at the top of both exercises compared to locking out? Is there a benefit
That is not a straight/stiff leg deadlift at all. A straight leg deadlift is exactly that, straight legs. Essentially a good morning with the load infront of you.
What he did was just two RDLs with a shorter range of motion.
A stiff leg deadlift doesn't allow you to use as much weight becuase its easer to round the low back so have to focus on lower weight with better form
Guess what they are actually the exact same thing.
I think i end up doing both. I struggle to find the difference between the two. Not sure why but i just do Zercher Deadlift instead
Difference between SLDL and DL is just the bend in the knee and starting off lifting from the ground?
Why does this look more like a conventional deadlift to me ? 🤔
A stiff dead is when you have the legs completely locked straight. Using non heavy weight going all the way down and up.
How can you call it a stiff legged dead lift when your knees are bent?
Time under tension😊
Will a long femur person’s conventional DL look similar to a SLDL? Asking because i have long femurs and when i do conventional my hips end up pretty high up anyway
Coming from a former student, I don't think Coach Javorek would make that claim. More known for his complex's that he invented, not the deadlift.
Usually love Eugene's work but stiff leg shouldn't have any bend in the knees and aims to target the hammies secondary gluteys
Which is best for hamstring
I do RDLs because I dont have the flexibility to touch the bar to the ground. But I'm progressively improving my ROM so... stiff legs here I come..?
Is it me, but do his knees bend in both these exercises? Which one targets which muscle (glutes vs quads)? Help.
They’re both predominantly glute, hamstring, and low back. They’re just variations try them both see which one works better for you
These exercises don't really work the quads at all. If you want quads do squatting motions with more knee flexion
The knees always have to be able to bend, hyperextending your knees is a real thing and you don't want to do it.
Neither works the quad
Stiff leg deadlift focus much more on extending you knees while hinging, hence lengthening and loading the hamstring much more than RDLS or other deadlift variations. Foot positioning can also affect the focus on bent knee, wide stance-hip extension in which the glutes and the adductors dominate or extended knee, closer stance-hip extensio in which the hamstrings dominate.
I personally never saw the benefit of Stiff leg and the romanian does everything Stiff leg does...but I argue is safer, and you can also do more weight.
I always do RDL's, since I workout with multiple reps and sets. I don't see the benefit in going down the additional 6 inches.
What’s the difference between sldl and dl?? 🤔
Nah RDL is when you do not bend your knees unlike a SLDL in which you bend your knees a little to start in your normal deadlitf position SLDL s difference from deadlift is you dont lower your hips at the start of the lift to incorporate more quads and get some strech reflex out of your legs.So in RDL there is ZERO quad activation and generally a arched back to prestrech the hamstrings and no touching the ground making it a good hamstring streching exercise while SLDL is a deadlift without leg drive used as a accesory to build up a stronger deadlift and work mainly the glutes
Hey should we lock knees or not
they all work the glutes and hams. period.
You're SLDLs looks more like a normal dead lift 🙄
I think my legs are too long for a stiff legged deadlift
If this is a stiff leg deadlift whats the difference with a conventional deadlift. Seems exactly the same
My lower back aches while I perform SLDL.. Is it normal or not please🙏 let me know guys
The Romanian deadlift (also known as the RDL) was developed by a Romanian weightlifter named Nicu Vlad with the intention of working on lower back and hamstring strength and to build power for pulling movements.
I dont expect like a chinese to understend romanian culture 😂😂😂
Ok now how is that sldl different from conventional?
wait wait wait... a Romanian is a SUBCATEGORY of the Stiffleg.
Straight leg is a deadlift where you start in a less optima starting position - hips higher. Don't take the "straight leg" part of the name literally.
uh ok, now which one makes my butt bigger?
So which one better? And what should i pick
Both!
Bench
they are basically the same, so just pick the one you like more (for powerlifing stiff leg dl could be a bit better tho)
Both
@@fred9148yes, a good mix for strength and size esp. for hammies, would say rdls are a bit more glutes
Stiff leg means stiff legs no a bend
even the 20kgs in my gym are much smaller than these plates gl goin to the ground and dont make it look like a deadlift :D
Finally someone says it 😂
One a red Apple and ones a green Apple. Both are apples. RDL better for hypertrophy due to time under tension.
Time under tension doesn't equal growth, proximity to failure/intensity does. post physique
100% correct, my comment was based on all things being equal, including RPE.
Same shot
I always wondered if there was a difderence
Your legs werent straight on the strai legged deadlifts
Why his info. is confusing😮😮
try pushing ur knees back a lil more
It's sooo funny to me personally that it's called romanian dead lift now that I know who came up with it. I bet the dude hardly knows any romanian at all. Good on him though for reminding the worl that my country exists. Should have been called Szekely dead lift though 😂
You just did the same thing except change the range of motion
thats not a stiff legs dl ? stiff legs means stiff legs so its like a romanian but you dont bend your knee even a little
That’s not strait leg tho?
Naw
Dang it I was told it was invented by some kid named Roman who was lifting rocks and his mom told him to cut down on the noise so he stopped dropping them every rep 😢
Why do you pronounce romanian guys name Javorek in spanish lol
¿Por la influencia del latín?
Javorek sounds kind of polish or slavik to me, but his first name Istvan is Stephan in english and it's actually in hungarian.
Romanian DL is a SLDL.
I have to ask then..... What's a regular deadlift?
Your hips would go lower as if you’re sitting down.
RDL = SLDL
But those legs aint stiff
Romanian deadlift is superior
Sldl
Starts from the bottom!!!!
Deadlift with no leg drive!!!!
Rdl
Starts from the top!!!
Just saying!!!!
I thought the reason it’s called stiff legged is because you knees barely bend? Hence “stiff”.
I understand that not everyone has the hamstring flexibility and mobility to pull it off, it’s just a variation that not everyone can do but can choose to work towards.
Et tu, Eugene? Enough with this utterly useless distinction. Minor variations on exercises don't need nationalized nomenclature. From here on it's a standing hip hinge: so it shall be written, so it shall be done.
You dont showing striff leg deadlift....instead you did just deadlift....
why you don’t use real weights?
And why don’t you tuck your chin while performing these hinging exercises??
Why would you that’s terrible advice lol
@@plugliferecords8618 let me guess you don’t have any actual idea/reason behind disagreeing to what I said and you’re just talking out of your ass?
This is wrong
Stop propagating lies. Form difference is not a different exercise they’re the same thing
Shouldn't you legs be I don't know...STIFF then? 🫠