I've used one of these to tow over the Transcanada highway between Vancouver and Calgary. It has held up on numerous motorcycles (KZ1000, BMWF650GS twin, ZX14, and BMW R75/5). I have put on thousands of km's with one of these and I've never had a problem. I have heard some people say it will wreck your transmission because the oil won't circulate, but I have never had a problem with any of my bikes afterwards. On my F650GS, I did have to watch the paniers, because on full-lock turns with my SUV, the bike leans so much that the paniers would skid on the road. Best to plan your trip and try to avoid "full-lock" turns. Make sure that when you snug down the front with straps that you don't bottom out the front suspension. Again, I haven't had a problem with fork seals, but you don't want to wreck your bike.
The big washer goes with the small bolt on the bottom of the tow in line with the knob. I just bought the same one before I watched you put it all together...good job though👍🏽
Thanks! Hey, the thick washer is for the hitch, there are two washers that go on the inside of tire rack and the last smaller washer goes on the nut side of the long bolt
Hey Connor, i havent had a chance to take it for a long ride. But will do soon. This system has been used with alot of cars and going cross country. I will keep you updated.
My instructions were shreded, so your instruction video was very helpful. After reading the comments, transmission oiler not working during transport and leans on turning causes skepticism about using the device. How has it worked for you?
The large bolt goes on the bottom of the sliding part of the frame. And the thick washer goes on the large bolt between the upright and the front wheel part.
I just bought one. adding out rigger bar to strap to handles and adding a swivel to the hitch so it dont scrub tires or lean the bike. I am a welder by trade and have welders at home. So should be easy mods.
Did you ever haul the bike as you said u were going to i looked but cant find the video. I want to know if this would work for my harley taking it across canada
I see a big problem with this kind of tow. Number one the rear wheel suspension and bearing are still in use. But more importantly the belt is contacted to the output shaft which even in neutral is spinning. Since the oil pump is not working there is limited oil to lubricate the output shaft output shaft bearing and seal. I myself would not use this tow method unless it is a short trip less than 100 kms
@@boy3t7E yes that’s a solution and causes no problems to engine but there is still wear on rear bearings. and suspension bearings. If you delivering a brand new bike I wouldn’t trailer it this way. It’s a disservice to the customer
These cheap ones work, ,but you get the LEAN so badly it is almost scary. Also for those asking questions about lights...If you are pulling any trailer or vehicle that does not block your turn signals, brake lights and tail lights. You don't need extra lights. However if people cannot see the bike behind your car they could slam into it. That said, I always use a flag, and also tie on a blinking led flasher like that comes for bicycles. 2 of them. These will cause your bike to lean badly. The only way to keep that from happening is to create an outrigger that you can then tie the bars down to, and also the rear of bike to them as well. Keeping the bike straight keeps it from leaning badly and tilting to the point of being fearful it will fall over! Some tie the bars to the tow vehicle, Which only helps. But until you cinch the bike to some type of outrigger, you will have issues with dangerous leaning.
I have one just got 2 weeks ago. One of the bolts broke that goes into the hitch., had to another bolt not come with a nut. No instructions included. So when I tried it this past weekend, never again. It trailer isn't stable at all. Driving and turning to see your bike almost on its side is scarey. The leaver to push the trailer up is hard to press down. I even bought extra straps because it came with 4 black straps that aren't good for anything. If you use this, only real short distance. I would not not not buy this, hate i did. You better off getting the one from uhaul.
Timothy Brelsford We manufacture rear wheel tow hitches in the USA. Our customers have safely towed their bikes 10,000’s of miles. check us out www.motowus.com
If you are pulling any trailer or vehicle that does not block your turn signals, brake lights and tail lights. You don't need extra lights. However if people cannot see the bike behind your car they could slam into it. That said, I always use a flag, and also tie on a blinking led flasher like that comes for bicycles. 2 of them. These will cause your bike to lean badly. The only way to keep that from happening is to create an outrigger that you can then tie the bars down to, and also the rear of bike to them as well. Keeping the bike straight keeps it from leaning badly and tilting to the point of being fearful it will fall over! Some tie the bars to the tow vehicle, Which only helps. But until you cinch the bike to some type of outrigger, you will have issues with dangerous leaning.
do you think your honda scooter could be transported using with this system?? I am debating getting a hitch for my vehicle to carry my scooter. debating between this system or a motorcycle carrier to do the job. I have a honda elite 110 2010.
Nice, i used to have one of those elite 110's. Now riding a honda sh150i. Prefer the 110 honestly. For the scooter i would just get a moto carrier instead. The scooter is so light. The reason i got this was to haul my bike in a pinch, but the vstrom is 500lbs so a career would be too much weight on it.
@@VehicleHunter ok that’s what I’m going to do then but guess what. I found a tow hitch for my 2008 Corolla finally, plus a straight adapter for a 1.25” to 2” receiver. The you max toungue weight rating is 200lbs or 2000lbs towing capacity. The elite weighs like... 254 minus 12lbs if the gas tank is empty. so with the carrier and an extra 40lbs over the toungue weight rating I may be pushing it but I’m just going to get on of those stabilizer things plus a bunch of ratchet straps to tie it down. I may be 50-80lbs over the suggest tongue weight but I think my hitch and 2008 Corolla can handle the elite. Only going short distances anyway. I once towed a 383lb ninja 300 with a huge 60lb motorcycle carrier on a hitch rated for a 350lb toungue rate and it performed super well on my old Honda Odyssey that I sold. So I think it will be able to handle such a small scooter on my 08 Corolla. Plus the ground clearance is about 9”, which is an inch higher than a Toyota Sienna.
@@robertp9370 You have to be careful. The weight on bumps is transmitted to the hitch. There is a guy named vegasromaniac and he was doing that with his toyota yaris with dirt bikes. But he reenforced the hitch mount to the frame. You should consider that.
@@VehicleHunter ok I will consider that I did see his videos and others so many times. I will have to see what I can do. But man it would be sweet if my Corolla could carry it around. I’ll do whatever it takes lol. The backseat of the Corolla folds about 170 degrees flat, almost perfectly flat, I’m trying to camp out of it with my backseats folded down and carry the scooter on the back. I’ll figure it out.
It puts wear on the rear tire, but if you mean will the odometer increase the answer is no. Odometer reading is usually based on how fast the engine is turning while or the front wheel is turning. With the front wheel up and the bike off, no mileage increase on your odometer.
Oi Jefferson, aqui esta. www.amazon.com/Portable-Motorcycle-Trailer-Carrier-Capacity/dp/B07Q29XHCF/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=front+wheel+motorcycle+hitch&qid=1607817815&sr=8-8
@@VehicleHunter thanks for answering. If I can't find it, I intend to make one for myself if it is safe. I searched on several sites, and all of them are unavailable. Do you know if there was a problem with the product? or accidents, or falls on the motorcycle? My bike have 508lb
ruclips.net/video/X2TD5M_O9-o/видео.html No matter what set up you use. Make sure you have an outrigger type system that allows you to tie the bars down to mount itself. And the back of bike as well. Keeping it held straight. That way it never will lean on you and is way more safe.
I don't know how I feel about this product, the concept seems too good to be true. and it is as I bought one. What I did not like was the Ground clearance. its maybe 3-4inches off the ground and my cars suspension was drastically lowered, then again who hauls a motorcycle in a Prius. in this video it looks like its 2inches and he has a truck and can only imagine the road scrapings and sparks. you can make adjustments to the support arms however I felt it was unsafe for a 250cc on a 800 mile journey. Lets just say it was a Failed Idea , a mistake, and try to return it as fast as possible.
Yeah, not sure i like it either. I wanted it to be effective, but it does seem tough. I do think it can work in a pinch. But uhaul rents moto trailers for 30$ a day.
@@VehicleHunter something like a donut tire recommended for 10-20 miles till you repair your full size tire. That’s kinda the vibe I got. The sad mistake is that the 04 Prius needs rear struts replaced, never been done. So my 2 cents is that it depends on the car. The uhaul receiver hitch was a 1.25, I went to harbor freight for a conversion adapter to a 2in that extended it out, I also had a full tank of gas on the cycle. What I’m saying is that there are other factors to consider. Other people say that the Transmission is turning which affects the clutch. Then other reviews say they have had no problems with long distance. If it’s mixed reviews then I say try at your own risk. The video did help me, thanks for that totally much appreciated for how to put it together v hunter.
I wouldn’t trust that thing to move a pocket rocket. Your straps shouldn’t be mounted to the outboard portion of your number for several reasons. When you turn your handle bars will bend and or collapse your forks and blow out your fork seals.
Never liked these...mostly because the system does not articulate like a trailer would. This causes the bike to lean in turns and the rear wheel of the bike "chatter" as you go around any sharp corners. Puts a lot of stress on the bike and is scary as hell. Plus, the "jack" to raise the bike is crap if you have a heavy bike. I built one that articulates for my 1100 cruiser, but I only use it to haul the bike across town to my mechanic. Never would I consider taking it long distance.
You both sound like a couple of idiots. Motorcycles are made to drive. This towing device simulates a motorcycle driving with just the rear tire. Lol. The stress falls on the vehicle towing.. (motor, brakes, etc) you two seem like the kind of guys that always have the “right answer”. You know, the type of jerk that thinks everyone is stupid but him. Lol
Arthur J. Finkelstein i know you’re a troll and a tool! I have forgotten more about bikes than you will ever know!! I am an engineer and design motorcycle components!!! You are just an internet troll with nothing to say worth hearing!
ZEQi..you seem to be smart about motorbikes,butYou missed a really important point.True..it simulates driving with the rear wheel on the ground.EXCEPT,in this situation,the clutch is engaged,both the engine and the oil pump off..and the motive power is flowing the opposite direction: from the rear wheel up the chain to the transmission.instead of the other way.I would recommend removing the chain.
I see a big problem with this kind of tow. Number one the rear wheel suspension and bearing are still in use. But more importantly the belt is contacted to the output shaft which even in neutral is spinning. Since the oil pump is not working there is limited oil to lubricate the output shaft output shaft bearing and seal. I myself would not use this tow method unless it is a short trip less than 100 kms
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I've used one of these to tow over the Transcanada highway between Vancouver and Calgary. It has held up on numerous motorcycles (KZ1000, BMWF650GS twin, ZX14, and BMW R75/5). I have put on thousands of km's with one of these and I've never had a problem. I have heard some people say it will wreck your transmission because the oil won't circulate, but I have never had a problem with any of my bikes afterwards. On my F650GS, I did have to watch the paniers, because on full-lock turns with my SUV, the bike leans so much that the paniers would skid on the road. Best to plan your trip and try to avoid "full-lock" turns. Make sure that when you snug down the front with straps that you don't bottom out the front suspension. Again, I haven't had a problem with fork seals, but you don't want to wreck your bike.
You can also use carriage bolts which have a rounded head which will allow the front tire to fully engage inside the front wheel holder cage.
I bought that same hauler. I’ll try it Friday on a 1983 Yamaha Vision 550. The video tells me I should check where I can attach my downs. Good job!
Can you link where you bought this?
Amazon, for the front wheel hauler. My bumper was not high enough to make it work right. It is made for short hauls.
The big washer goes with the small bolt on the bottom of the tow in line with the knob. I just bought the same one before I watched you put it all together...good job though👍🏽
Thanks! Hey, the thick washer is for the hitch, there are two washers that go on the inside of tire rack and the last smaller washer goes on the nut side of the long bolt
Thank you so much for the review it was very informative.
Any update on this? Looking to use it on my little 125 scrambler with my toyota corolla, haven't seen anything like it though
Hey Connor, i havent had a chance to take it for a long ride. But will do soon. This system has been used with alot of cars and going cross country. I will keep you updated.
Try slightly loosening and lubricating the pivot points on the raising/lowering arm.
Anyone have a link to the next video showing how it holds up when actually being towed?
lol, one of the problems is I hardly tow. But will do one soon.
My instructions were shreded, so your instruction video was very helpful. After reading the comments, transmission oiler not working during transport and leans on turning causes skepticism about using the device. How has it worked for you?
The large bolt goes on the bottom of the sliding part of the frame. And the thick washer goes on the large bolt between the upright and the front wheel part.
LMAO duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh right ?
I just bought one. adding out rigger bar to strap to handles and adding a swivel to the hitch so it dont scrub tires or lean the bike. I am a welder by trade and have welders at home. So should be easy mods.
Did you ever haul the bike as you said u were going to i looked but cant find the video. I want to know if this would work for my harley taking it across canada
So did you do it?
Does this work well for long trips?
I see a big problem with this kind of tow. Number one the rear wheel suspension and bearing are still in use. But more importantly the belt is contacted to the output shaft which even in neutral is spinning. Since the oil pump is not working there is limited oil to lubricate the output shaft output shaft bearing and seal. I myself would not use this tow method unless it is a short trip less than 100 kms
Doesn’t the gearbox have its own oil supply which isn’t dependent on the engine pump?
Maybe take the chain off, if it has one..just thinking.
@@boy3t7E yes that’s a solution and causes no problems to engine but there is still wear on rear bearings. and suspension bearings. If you delivering a brand new bike I wouldn’t trailer it this way. It’s a disservice to the customer
@@vicshere1 For sure. I would just use for personal use really. But if brand spanking new...all tires off the ground. Thank you. Cheers!
Any update on how it holds up? looking to order one to haul my cbr f4i stuntbike with my 2014 honda pilot
Did you end up getting one?
These cheap ones work, ,but you get the LEAN so badly it is almost scary. Also for those asking questions about lights...If you are pulling any trailer or vehicle that does not block your turn signals, brake lights and tail lights. You don't need extra lights. However if people cannot see the bike behind your car they could slam into it. That said, I always use a flag, and also tie on a blinking led flasher like that comes for bicycles. 2 of them. These will cause your bike to lean badly. The only way to keep that from happening is to create an outrigger that you can then tie the bars down to, and also the rear of bike to them as well. Keeping the bike straight keeps it from leaning badly and tilting to the point of being fearful it will fall over! Some tie the bars to the tow vehicle, Which only helps. But until you cinch the bike to some type of outrigger, you will have issues with dangerous leaning.
Hi, where are you buy it and how much is it? Thanks
I have one just got 2 weeks ago. One of the bolts broke that goes into the hitch., had to another bolt not come with a nut. No instructions included. So when I tried it this past weekend, never again. It trailer isn't stable at all. Driving and turning to see your bike almost on its side is scarey. The leaver to push the trailer up is hard to press down. I even bought extra straps because it came with 4 black straps that aren't good for anything. If you use this, only real short distance. I would not not not buy this, hate i did. You better off getting the one from uhaul.
Timothy Brelsford We manufacture rear wheel tow hitches in the USA. Our customers have safely towed their bikes 10,000’s of miles. check us out www.motowus.com
What are the laws for brake/ turn signals when towing the bike?
If you are pulling any trailer or vehicle that does not block your turn signals, brake lights and tail lights. You don't need extra lights. However if people cannot see the bike behind your car they could slam into it. That said, I always use a flag, and also tie on a blinking led flasher like that comes for bicycles. 2 of them. These will cause your bike to lean badly. The only way to keep that from happening is to create an outrigger that you can then tie the bars down to, and also the rear of bike to them as well. Keeping the bike straight keeps it from leaning badly and tilting to the point of being fearful it will fall over! Some tie the bars to the tow vehicle, Which only helps. But until you cinch the bike to some type of outrigger, you will have issues with dangerous leaning.
Someone here found an add for this on Amazon. There, it says right in the description that it is a "scooter" lift. So, not for large bikes. :(
do you think your honda scooter could be transported using with this system?? I am debating getting a hitch for my vehicle to carry my scooter. debating between this system or a motorcycle carrier to do the job. I have a honda elite 110 2010.
Nice, i used to have one of those elite 110's. Now riding a honda sh150i. Prefer the 110 honestly. For the scooter i would just get a moto carrier instead. The scooter is so light. The reason i got this was to haul my bike in a pinch, but the vstrom is 500lbs so a career would be too much weight on it.
@@VehicleHunter ok that’s what I’m going to do then but guess what. I found a tow hitch for my 2008 Corolla finally, plus a straight adapter for a 1.25” to 2” receiver. The you max toungue weight rating is 200lbs or 2000lbs towing capacity. The elite weighs like... 254 minus 12lbs if the gas tank is empty. so with the carrier and an extra 40lbs over the toungue weight rating I may be pushing it but I’m just going to get on of those stabilizer things plus a bunch of ratchet straps to tie it down. I may be 50-80lbs over the suggest tongue weight but I think my hitch and 2008 Corolla can handle the elite. Only going short distances anyway. I once towed a 383lb ninja 300 with a huge 60lb motorcycle carrier on a hitch rated for a 350lb toungue rate and it performed super well on my old Honda Odyssey that I sold. So I think it will be able to handle such a small scooter on my 08 Corolla. Plus the ground clearance is about 9”, which is an inch higher than a Toyota Sienna.
@@robertp9370 You have to be careful. The weight on bumps is transmitted to the hitch. There is a guy named vegasromaniac and he was doing that with his toyota yaris with dirt bikes. But he reenforced the hitch mount to the frame. You should consider that.
@@VehicleHunter ok I will consider that I did see his videos and others so many times. I will have to see what I can do. But man it would be sweet if my Corolla could carry it around. I’ll do whatever it takes lol. The backseat of the Corolla folds about 170 degrees flat, almost perfectly flat, I’m trying to camp out of it with my backseats folded down and carry the scooter on the back. I’ll figure it out.
What happens s if you have to back up? Jacknife?
What's the brand?? Links please
I have homemade. Work perfect.
You don't appear to be the sharpest tool in shed
So how do we get one and what's it called??
It’s a front wheel hitch moto carrier. Got it on Amazon. I’ll post the link shortly
That still puts millage on bike ?!!! Im almost positive it will
You are the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@VehicleHunter took you minute to realize it though like i said before evidently ur not that sharp
Has to!
It puts wear on the rear tire, but if you mean will the odometer increase the answer is no. Odometer reading is usually based on how fast the engine is turning while or the front wheel is turning. With the front wheel up and the bike off, no mileage increase on your odometer.
Can you indicate the link to buy this product? Brasil
Oi Jefferson, aqui esta.
www.amazon.com/Portable-Motorcycle-Trailer-Carrier-Capacity/dp/B07Q29XHCF/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=front+wheel+motorcycle+hitch&qid=1607817815&sr=8-8
@@VehicleHunter thanks for answering. If I can't find it, I intend to make one for myself if it is safe. I searched on several sites, and all of them are unavailable. Do you know if there was a problem with the product? or accidents, or falls on the motorcycle? My bike have 508lb
Wish
anyone consider hitting the highway with this?
Did it work?
Yeah it worked. Stay tuned for a long term test. Going to go to deals gap soon.
@@VehicleHunter where did you buy this?
@@indianaoutdoors1776 I think I see this exact model on amazon: smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0892B7YY7/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
@@Tay-ky3fi Thank you for the lead. It does say right in the title there, that this unit is for scooters. They are a bit lighter :)
ruclips.net/video/X2TD5M_O9-o/видео.html No matter what set up you use. Make sure you have an outrigger type system that allows you to tie the bars down to mount itself. And the back of bike as well. Keeping it held straight. That way it never will lean on you and is way more safe.
I don't know how I feel about this product, the concept seems too good to be true. and it is as I bought one. What I did not like was the Ground clearance. its maybe 3-4inches off the ground and my cars suspension was drastically lowered, then again who hauls a motorcycle in a Prius. in this video it looks like its 2inches and he has a truck and can only imagine the road scrapings and sparks. you can make adjustments to the support arms however I felt it was unsafe for a 250cc on a 800 mile journey. Lets just say it was a Failed Idea , a mistake, and try to return it as fast as possible.
Yeah, not sure i like it either. I wanted it to be effective, but it does seem tough. I do think it can work in a pinch. But uhaul rents moto trailers for 30$ a day.
@@VehicleHunter something like a donut tire recommended for 10-20 miles till you repair your full size tire. That’s kinda the vibe I got. The sad mistake is that the 04 Prius needs rear struts replaced, never been done. So my 2 cents is that it depends on the car. The uhaul receiver hitch was a 1.25, I went to harbor freight for a conversion adapter to a 2in that extended it out, I also had a full tank of gas on the cycle. What I’m saying is that there are other factors to consider. Other people say that the Transmission is turning which affects the clutch. Then other reviews say they have had no problems with long distance. If it’s mixed reviews then I say try at your own risk. The video did help me, thanks for that totally much appreciated for how to put it together v hunter.
I wouldn’t trust that thing to move a pocket rocket. Your straps shouldn’t be mounted to the outboard portion of your number for several reasons. When you turn your handle bars will bend and or collapse your forks and blow out your fork seals.
Thank you for the video.
that is really meant for smaller bikes...
It’s not carrying all the weight it basically just tow so it can pull any bikes!
Never liked these...mostly because the system does not articulate like a trailer would. This causes the bike to lean in turns and the rear wheel of the bike "chatter" as you go around any sharp corners. Puts a lot of stress on the bike and is scary as hell. Plus, the "jack" to raise the bike is crap if you have a heavy bike. I built one that articulates for my 1100 cruiser, but I only use it to haul the bike across town to my mechanic. Never would I consider taking it long distance.
You don’t know what you’re doing. I use the same hitch towing device for my Harley bike and it’s good
seems like a fast way to wear out your bike.
You both sound like a couple of idiots. Motorcycles are made to drive. This towing device simulates a motorcycle driving with just the rear tire. Lol. The stress falls on the vehicle towing.. (motor, brakes, etc) you two seem like the kind of guys that always have the “right answer”. You know, the type of jerk that thinks everyone is stupid but him. Lol
Arthur J. Finkelstein i know you’re a troll and a tool! I have forgotten more about bikes than you will ever know!! I am an engineer and design motorcycle components!!! You are just an internet troll with nothing to say worth hearing!
I think riding your bike wears it much more.
@@zeqillanes4312 That was a very stupid statement.
ZEQi..you seem to be smart about motorbikes,butYou missed a really important point.True..it simulates driving with the rear wheel on the ground.EXCEPT,in this situation,the clutch is engaged,both the engine and the oil pump off..and the motive power is flowing the opposite direction: from the rear wheel up the chain to the transmission.instead of the other way.I would recommend removing the chain.
Boots wrong way round
Cheap way to damage your bike gearbox
Looks like an accident looking for a place to happen.🙄
I did notice when you were assembling the hitch you put the bolts in backwards. Hence the interference fit
Yikes 😬. Chinese steel, Chinese welds, and Chinese hardware. I would never trust my $10k bike strapped to one of these.
What a terrible video lmao
I see a big problem with this kind of tow. Number one the rear wheel suspension and bearing are still in use. But more importantly the belt is contacted to the output shaft which even in neutral is spinning. Since the oil pump is not working there is limited oil to lubricate the output shaft output shaft bearing and seal. I myself would not use this tow method unless it is a short trip less than 100 kms
Would it be different for a scooter? Say Honda Navi since its an Automatic Transmission. Thank you for your insight.
@@robert420ism no idea about scooters man